**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 22 02:59:56 2009 Jul 22 03:23:52 warewolf: why do you need to fix the package manager?? Jul 22 03:27:41 it resolved itself Jul 22 03:27:56 what was the issue? Jul 22 03:52:25 how does one put a " < " in some text in an xml file ? Jul 22 03:55:11 < Jul 22 03:55:20 well to be technical Jul 22 03:55:37 " < " Jul 22 03:55:38 :P Jul 22 03:56:19 ahha Jul 22 03:57:21 wow, 4 romainguys Jul 22 03:57:27 ya'll must get a lot accomplished Jul 22 04:07:46 ho-hum Jul 22 04:08:10 One of the romainguys is a clone of a clone... he's a little bit screwy. Jul 22 04:08:59 I think that's the one that swears at misbehaving apps on the Market. Jul 22 04:09:26 kRutOn, I thought that was all of them Jul 22 04:09:42 jsharkey: I changed my little Gravatar so you should be able to recognize me now. Jul 22 04:09:52 ooh Jul 22 04:09:56 i think i saw it the other day Jul 22 04:10:06 I just put it up like 10 minutes ago! Jul 22 04:10:08 i wonder if we should do that in gerrit Jul 22 04:10:10 ohlol Jul 22 04:10:14 i could kinda recognize you from it before Jul 22 04:10:24 yarite Jul 22 04:10:52 gravatar? Jul 22 04:11:01 I will probably be hand-holding these IBM guys until 3 AM, so maybe I should put in Gravatar support in Gerrit Jul 22 04:11:10 KNY: Globally recognized avatars Jul 22 04:11:28 zomg http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/e463fd50eb7e72d6f78bcda660844741.jpg Jul 22 04:11:41 they basically do http://gravatar.com/something/(MD5 hash of your email).jpg Jul 22 04:11:50 yea its pretty cool Jul 22 04:11:55 meant for blog comments Jul 22 04:12:10 interesting Jul 22 04:12:48 * kRutOn changes his Twitter avatar. Jul 22 04:23:02 jsharkey: What's so zomg?? Jul 22 04:26:04 are you new to the internet? Jul 22 04:26:34 I've had plenty of internets. Jul 22 04:27:07 Queue29, he asked what's *so* zomg, not "what's zomg?" Jul 22 04:27:31 i skip words Jul 22 04:27:39 Queue29, I had to do a double-take Jul 22 04:27:43 One time on vacation I even saved a bottle-nosed dolphin. It was tangled in an internet! Jul 22 04:29:33 Also there are apparently a lot of bugs fixed in donut but it isn't publicly available. Thus my efforts to fix random bugs are for naught since some of them have already be fixed unbeknownst to me. Jul 22 04:31:34 * KNY wonders when we'll get to peek at donut, and why we can't right now Jul 22 04:32:01 Maybe they're taking a cue from Apple. Jul 22 04:32:24 When they release it, they want to say, "Shazam!" Jul 22 04:32:41 KNY: Oh, is GV open-source? Jul 22 04:32:46 kRutOn, apache 2.0 Jul 22 04:32:58 (yes) Jul 22 04:33:06 Rockin'. Jul 22 04:33:10 http://evancharlton.com/gv http://svn.evancharlton.com/wsvn/GV Jul 22 04:33:13 patches welcome :) Jul 22 04:33:25 Eye patches? Jul 22 04:33:33 those too Jul 22 04:33:51 Well, I have a fake peg leg and an eye patch. You supply the macaw. Jul 22 04:37:07 Are ASE (Python) questions kosher here or is there another channel for that? Jul 22 04:45:59 kRutOn: I've counted 1333 bug fixes in Donut today :) Jul 22 04:46:16 that doesn't include any of your fixes btw Jul 22 04:47:13 my understanding is Android maintains an Activity Stack so that when user clicks 'Back' button, it knows which ACtivity to back to. Can you please tell me where in the android code which handles that functionality? Jul 22 04:47:15 thank you. Jul 22 04:50:12 looking for apps to download fbook? Jul 22 04:53:42 romainguy: well, 1333 is much larger than any number I can come up with Jul 22 04:53:58 I have a list of song titles, what would be the best control to stick them in so a user could scroll and choose one? Jul 22 04:54:28 romainguy: maybe if I worked on fixing bugs for a year straight. Jul 22 04:55:22 I just added IDN support like I was talking about yesterday, but I might abandon it. Jul 22 04:58:10 Spyrorocks: There's always a ListView... Jul 22 04:59:00 romainguy: Actually, maybe you can answer some questions: 1. Is there an upgrade to ICU coming or planned (cupcake has 3.8) 2. Is there any IDN (Internationalized Domain Name) support already underway internally Jul 22 04:59:27 kRutOn: Thanks, ill just need to figure out how to add elements to the listview. Jul 22 05:00:24 Spyrorocks: Look around for examples of a ListView using some kind of Adapter.. CursorAdapter, ArrayAdapter, etc Jul 22 05:00:37 ah ok thanks :) Jul 22 05:19:27 Hmm I have this code Jul 22 05:19:29 Intent myIntent = new Intent(Intent.VIEW_ACTION, Uri.parse("http://www.google.com")); Jul 22 05:19:29 startActivity(myIntent); Jul 22 05:19:39 But Intent.VIEW_ACTION doesnt seem to exist Jul 22 05:19:43 according to eclipse... Jul 22 05:20:29 I installed ASE 0.9-alpha (from http://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/downloads/list), and I'm trying the weather_notify.py thing. I'm getting "RPC error" when it's trying to call droid.notify. Does anyone else have success with Android.notify() ? Jul 22 07:01:38 are there any special security permissions I need to set for launching threads? Jul 22 07:01:49 My app keeps on freezing just after I launch a thread Jul 22 07:02:19 Actually, freezes after I call runOnUiThread(returnRes); from within Jul 22 07:04:32 Spyrorocks: returnRes probably blocks. Jul 22 07:04:38 maybe it gets into a cycle of some sort? Jul 22 07:04:42 (no, there are no special permissions, you're just doing it wrong) Jul 22 07:05:16 This is what my returnres looks like http://pastie.org/private/2ivvxq7ihanac8c7u9a4tq Jul 22 07:05:38 private ArrayList aSongs = null; Jul 22 07:05:50 declared right after my main activity class Jul 22 07:06:13 this looks fine, although pretty silly Jul 22 07:06:45 Im trying to take bits a pieces around off other sites to try to figure out how I should go about doing it Jul 22 07:06:52 so its not pretty at all :P Jul 22 07:06:53 are you familiar with how to debug yoru app? halt the main thread and see where it's blocking. Jul 22 07:07:04 Ill see if I can figure that out Jul 22 07:07:30 do appreciate that copy/paste coding is one of the worst ways to learn btw. Jul 22 07:07:41 really, you'll never get anywhere. Jul 22 07:07:51 Yeah, I am trying to rewrite stuff Jul 22 07:07:52 to work Jul 22 07:07:57 but that's still copy/paste coding. Jul 22 07:08:32 OK so I should pause my main thread? Jul 22 07:08:33 actually one more question, does your app ever throw up an application not responding message? Jul 22 07:08:39 yes Jul 22 07:08:41 eventually it does Jul 22 07:08:45 it hangs Jul 22 07:08:56 ok then yeah, you can find your error by suspending the main thread Jul 22 07:09:07 OK suspended Jul 22 07:09:17 it's really quite simple. debug in Eclipse, then switch to debug perspective, look at the threads on the left once the program opens and click the main thread, then click the pause button Jul 22 07:09:21 and look at the call stack Jul 22 07:09:46 the tip of the stack will help you understand what's blocking the thread. Jul 22 07:10:29 The top of the main thread says Jul 22 07:10:31 ArrayList.size() line: 616 Jul 22 07:10:57 That looks like its in a library Jul 22 07:11:09 look for a function in your program. Jul 22 07:11:53 OK Jul 22 07:11:59 utunez$SongAdapter(ArrayAdapter).getCount() line: 291 Jul 22 07:12:04 that looks more like a func in my app Jul 22 07:12:19 sure does. and the array in question is what? Jul 22 07:12:27 is it...synchronized? :) Jul 22 07:12:49 aSongs.size() Jul 22 07:12:54 I think thats whats bothering it Jul 22 07:13:05 is aSongs synchronized? Jul 22 07:13:14 I do not know what you mean by that Jul 22 07:13:27 can you show me the entire SongAdapter class? Jul 22 07:13:30 yes Jul 22 07:13:34 1 second Jul 22 07:13:34 i will tell you what i mean :) Jul 22 07:13:56 http://pastie.org/private/wtxl0hmebvabc11xytnq Jul 22 07:14:15 Little bit different going from php to java Jul 22 07:14:16 :P Jul 22 07:15:10 why are you using an ArrayAdatper, then storing a handle to the array anyway? Jul 22 07:15:30 the arrayadapter can get you access to the items. for instance, just calling getItem(position) in getView will get you the Song object. Jul 22 07:15:55 Hmmm Jul 22 07:15:59 that was just a side-comment, not a fix Jul 22 07:16:06 Yeah I see Jul 22 07:16:15 Well right now, id like to somehow get this working Jul 22 07:16:21 anyway, can you show me which array is used to construct this? Jul 22 07:16:23 that's what i was really after. Jul 22 07:16:38 so, i would like to see the class that ultiamtely is responsible for new SongAdapter(...) Jul 22 07:16:38 Its constructed dynamically Jul 22 07:16:52 Song song1 = new Song(); Jul 22 07:16:52 song1.setSongTitle( "title" ); Jul 22 07:16:52 song1.setSongURL( "test" ); Jul 22 07:16:52 Song song2 = new Song(); Jul 22 07:16:52 song2.setSongTitle( "titleeee" ); Jul 22 07:16:53 song2.setSongURL( "testttttt" ); Jul 22 07:16:55 aSongs.add( song1 ); Jul 22 07:16:57 aSongs.add( song2 ); Jul 22 07:16:59 In the thread Jul 22 07:17:01 It adds that data Jul 22 07:17:03 this is not what i'm interested in. Jul 22 07:17:03 just for testing Jul 22 07:17:07 Oh Jul 22 07:17:15 really, i need to see the class that declared it. Jul 22 07:17:34 Hi. I'm new to android, I'm poking around native apps (unsurprisingly). - I read C++ support is rather minimal. Especially I read C++ exceptions are not supported. - What does it exactly mean? How can those be killed? Did they patch the GCC/G++ of theirs? Or they mean just std::exception and friends are missing? Jul 22 07:17:35 the whole class -- i want to check for a particular type of error. Jul 22 07:17:39 http://pastie.org/private/rfiobdiry6y0ffnqa9ragq Jul 22 07:17:59 There we go. Jul 22 07:18:09 ok, it seems like you've got a problem here... Jul 22 07:18:28 aSongs is not synchronized, and is thus not thread-safe. does getSongs() interact with aSongs? Jul 22 07:18:35 Yes Jul 22 07:18:39 Ah I see Jul 22 07:18:43 so you have two threads accessing an object which is not thread-safe Jul 22 07:18:50 Oh and that hangs it Jul 22 07:18:59 fortunately, there are two easily solutions for you Jul 22 07:19:30 the first, and recommended one, would be to retool your code to use AsyncTask. this class allows you to run operations in the background and then post them to the main thread to do stuff like publish them to a list adapter and dismiss progress dialogs. Jul 22 07:19:36 it is very handy, very well written, and very easy to understand Jul 22 07:19:42 you can use it to solve all sorts of threading issues on android Jul 22 07:20:02 Interesting, ill take a look at it now Jul 22 07:20:20 there are also many examples of AsyncTask at work, including the author's own usage at http://code.google.com/p/apps-for-android/source/checkout Jul 22 07:20:25 under the app Photostream Jul 22 07:20:34 but really, there are loads of other places this class is used you can examine Jul 22 07:20:42 check the docs online as well -- they are very thorough here Jul 22 07:20:57 Im reading http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/AsyncTask.html Jul 22 07:20:59 i recommend, therefore, that you not actually modify your list in yoru background thread Jul 22 07:21:15 merely access the data objects (however you want to do that), and publish them as results to the main thread to add to an array and notify the adapter Jul 22 07:21:26 access the array object only from the main thread, then. Jul 22 07:21:38 unless you really want to deal with synchronization issues, and i suspect you do not :) Jul 22 07:22:01 well, id like to show a progress dialog while data is downloaded Jul 22 07:22:12 so id need to publish the results to the main thread Jul 22 07:22:18 then have the main thread add those to the array? Jul 22 07:23:17 those last 2 sentences have nothing to do with the first 1. Jul 22 07:23:38 you can show a progress dialog before you start your asynctask. then, when your asynctask completes, dismiss it. this is fine, and a quite normal flow. Jul 22 07:24:16 the last 2 sentences talk about how to access each Song record and ultimately add it to your list. the former would ideally occur in the background, the latter on the main thread. Jul 22 07:24:41 btw, why does getSongs run in the background? where are these songs coming from? Jul 22 07:25:44 It gets a list from the web Jul 22 07:25:55 and parses the list Jul 22 07:26:09 quite reasonable to be in the background, but if you can, parse each record from the list and publish it to the main thread Jul 22 07:26:25 that's my recommendation, it's not strictly necessary Jul 22 07:26:45 you could easily just build the entire list in the background, then publish the whole thing as your AsyncTask result and use it Jul 22 07:27:15 i'm thinking if the list is large, it might be nice to be able to show some of the items while it downloads. possibly, your choice :) Jul 22 07:27:33 so, i'm curious, what type of app are you building here? Jul 22 07:27:35 only 10 records at a time, so it should be rather fast :) Thanks though Jul 22 07:27:41 Im building a free mp3 downloader Jul 22 07:27:49 hmm. Jul 22 07:28:06 it uses a few mp3 index sites, grabs links depending on your search, and returns a list Jul 22 07:28:10 and you can stream them. Jul 22 07:28:21 streaming them and downloading them at the same time. i doubt that ;) Jul 22 07:28:40 Never mind downloading, I meant streaming, sorry :P Jul 22 07:28:41 i solved that problem, and it was not trivial hehe Jul 22 07:28:50 I just do it very half assed and launch the web browser :P Jul 22 07:28:55 i also wrote an app which downloads music, kind of. Jul 22 07:28:56 for now at least Jul 22 07:29:00 Oh? Jul 22 07:29:04 http://five.googlecode.com Jul 22 07:29:43 Oh I see, streams from your local lan? Jul 22 07:30:20 no, it streams over any connection available to the phone, be it WiFi, 3G, or EDGE. Jul 22 07:30:44 Thats neat Jul 22 07:30:56 edge around here is so terribly slow Jul 22 07:31:08 what kind of 3G speeds do you get in your area? Jul 22 07:31:10 yeah, but this application caches as much data as it can Jul 22 07:31:18 so eventually, streaming is not necessary Jul 22 07:31:26 saved to the sd card? Jul 22 07:31:34 T-Mobile 3G in Seattle is quite fast, around 700kbps+ Jul 22 07:31:41 much more than is necessary to stream music Jul 22 07:31:45 yeah, to the storage card. Jul 22 07:32:12 Oh your in Seattle? Im from Vancouver Jul 22 07:32:18 Canada Jul 22 07:33:32 yawn... i think its bed time for me. Jul 22 07:33:36 good luck solving your issue Jul 22 07:34:51 Thanks for all your help Jul 22 07:34:54 I really appriciate it Jul 22 07:46:53 Phlogi, ping Jul 22 07:47:08 wmealing_: yes? Jul 22 07:47:12 get a chance ? Jul 22 07:48:18 wmealing_: nope, cable not arrived yet... Jul 22 07:48:24 maybe today Jul 22 07:48:40 damn Jul 22 07:48:51 why? Be patient ;) Jul 22 07:48:56 * wmealing_ ponders punting xda-developers Jul 22 07:50:23 =) Jul 22 08:07:11 * wmealing_ yawns.. Jul 22 08:07:19 what the heck, bit of self promotion. Jul 22 08:07:22 http://code.google.com/p/get-a-robot-vpnc/ Jul 22 08:07:32 cisco vpn client for android G1, requires root, and likely the tun module Jul 22 08:07:49 does not do L2TP Jul 22 08:07:51 just normal ipsec Jul 22 08:28:35 The code for vpnc is kind of funny. Jul 22 08:29:40 kRutOn, television funny ? Jul 22 08:29:45 or vpnc_doooeet(i) funny Jul 22 08:30:17 I wrote some changes for it a couple years ago. I just remember it was kind of rigidly linear. Jul 22 08:30:33 * wmealing_ nods Jul 22 08:30:37 very simple Jul 22 08:33:47 oh, I just wrote the SHA-1 group hash code Jul 22 08:34:56 which isn't in there Jul 22 08:51:25 ah, thanks ! Jul 22 08:51:32 * wmealing_ tips his hat Jul 22 08:55:22 I'm trying to create a widget with rounded corners. Does anyone have a clue how to do that? Jul 22 09:09:59 canvas properties? Jul 22 09:10:07 (just supposition) Jul 22 09:16:07 hello, I have a problem Jul 22 09:16:48 when I install a new version of the application on the phone, a reboot is required for the launcher to work :( (in the home screen's applications pane) Jul 22 09:17:12 madis, what happens if you dont reboot Jul 22 09:17:16 does it launch the old version ? Jul 22 09:17:20 no Jul 22 09:17:24 it display's the old label Jul 22 09:17:29 ah, that takes a while to refresh Jul 22 09:17:31 ive noticed that Jul 22 09:17:56 ah, ok, so by waiting a few minutes it should refresh as well? Jul 22 09:19:06 id imagine so, does for me Jul 22 09:19:36 oh, ok Jul 22 09:19:48 is there no way to force a refresh? Jul 22 09:34:18 mornin all Jul 22 09:35:16 nope, been like 17 minutes, it still has the wrong launcher with the wrong label :( Jul 22 09:36:20 I have the same activity entry point, but the intent filter has changed a bit Jul 22 09:57:06 romainguy: hi, have you reviewed http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2788 ? Jul 22 09:57:41 mais you can probably start killing processes at random. Jul 22 09:57:51 see which one it is Jul 22 10:00:29 ok, found my bug :( Jul 22 10:03:22 here goes: when the entry point is changed (refactored to a different package perhaps) then the launcher isn't updated Jul 22 10:03:30 until reboot Jul 22 10:03:38 and it tries to run the activity in the old package Jul 22 10:03:40 however Jul 22 10:03:57 if I keep the entry point the same, then the launcher IS updated and the label is refreshed instantly as well Jul 22 10:04:40 so during the install the launcher is being looked up by the entry point and upgraded only if the entry point remains the same? Jul 22 10:05:16 sounds logical. Jul 22 10:08:55 meaning, I can never refactor the activity that handles the MAIN/LAUNCHER intent or otherwise upgrading will be broken :( Jul 22 10:17:57 are there any good books on the market about developing for android? Jul 22 10:33:52 Professional Android Application Development by Reot Meier is good Jul 22 10:34:13 but also heard good things about "The busy coders guide to android" by Mark Murphy Jul 22 11:31:42 ciao Jul 22 11:31:45 Hi.. where can i find a good example of ListActivity.. Actually i want to set selection on an item of list.. Jul 22 11:33:00 I've got a problem with changing layouts in an app... may I post here the link to the code? It throws me a NullPointer exception... Jul 22 11:34:01 no idea of posting a link.. Jul 22 11:34:13 can you explain the problem in detail Jul 22 11:34:18 ok Jul 22 11:34:21 I'll try to :) Jul 22 11:34:32 well, I've got two layouts: main and second Jul 22 11:34:37 ok Jul 22 11:34:58 setContentView(R.layout.main); is sent to change layout right? Jul 22 11:35:27 yes.. this xml will be displayed Jul 22 11:35:30 well, I've got one botton per layout, they should change the layout according to their pressure Jul 22 11:35:46 I've set two IDs for the two buttons: Jul 22 11:35:52 acc to theie pressure? Jul 22 11:35:52 Button nextButton = (Button)findViewById(R.id.ButtonNext); Jul 22 11:35:59 ok.. Jul 22 11:36:12 ^-- and the other one is backButton ofc Jul 22 11:36:20 ok Jul 22 11:36:26 then I've created a function: Jul 22 11:36:29 final private OnClickListener getCListener(final int layout) { ... } Jul 22 11:36:30 ok Jul 22 11:36:41 in this way I'll be able to create an OnClickListener Jul 22 11:36:51 ok.. Jul 22 11:36:52 (but I've tried also without any function) Jul 22 11:37:02 nextButton.setOnClickListener(getCListener(R.layout.second)); works greate Jul 22 11:37:05 grat* Jul 22 11:37:07 have you setlistener on the button? Jul 22 11:37:09 **great Jul 22 11:37:30 on the first button? Jul 22 11:37:33 try {backButton.setOnClickListener(getCListener(R.layout.main));} catch(Exception e) {myText.append("\n"+e.toString());} <-- this will throw me the NullPointer Jul 22 11:37:37 yes Jul 22 11:39:03 being handled, the exception won't close the app, so I tried: the "nextButton" will work great, but I won't be able to turn back to the first layout (ofc, because of the NullPointer Exception) Jul 22 11:39:03 you want to perform some action on button click? Jul 22 11:39:19 yes, just turn back to the first layout (backButton) Jul 22 11:41:23 let me get clear.. Jul 22 11:41:46 if you want, here are the sources (just a testing app, nothing more than that): http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1512702/test/Test%20Layouts.zip Jul 22 11:46:05 you have one layout in that you have a button Jul 22 11:46:38 and on that button click you need to show another layout Jul 22 11:46:42 right? Jul 22 11:46:50 right Jul 22 11:46:53 that works Jul 22 11:47:01 so what does not work? Jul 22 11:47:08 i am not clear? Jul 22 11:47:10 the problem is in the 2nd button (backButton) Jul 22 11:47:14 *clear Jul 22 11:47:31 ok.. backbutton does not get you to the first layout? Jul 22 11:47:42 not only Jul 22 11:47:46 it throws me the error: Jul 22 11:48:07 ok.. so it does not get you to first layout? Jul 22 11:48:09 java.lang.NullPointerException Jul 22 11:48:13 yes Jul 22 11:48:26 ok.. Jul 22 11:48:39 ^-- that error is thrown starting the application, not during the clicking of the button Jul 22 11:48:50 you can see it just running the app in the emulator ^^ Jul 22 12:11:20 any suggestion? Jul 22 12:20:54 anyone have a problem with their keypresses nto working on the app once its loaded, after a force close/wait they work, also anyone have a game that 1 in 10 times runs 30% slower? Jul 22 12:22:34 elegos... can use backbutton that is already on phone/emulator Jul 22 12:22:50 u can catch the keyevent of back button Jul 22 12:23:01 ok, but that is just an example Jul 22 12:23:11 the main purpose was "go to main menu" Jul 22 12:23:26 I hope I can do the thing like that... Jul 22 12:23:48 public boolean onKeyDown(int i, KeyEvent event) { if (i == KeyEvent.KEYCODE_BACK) { // Toast.makeText(this, "Back Button Pressed......", Toast.LENGTH_LONG).show(); } return false; // propagate this keyevent } Jul 22 12:24:33 in this you can create an intent of the new activity Jul 22 12:25:48 ok, but how can I handle the error I'm getting? I hope I'll be able to handle THAT basic error Jul 22 12:29:32 i am not able to download the zip file Jul 22 12:29:51 some filter on my side are enabled .. Jul 22 12:30:54 this may be a stuipd question but how is libffi involved with jni? is jni on top of libffi? why is it so much more complicated then? Jul 22 12:32:49 smartfish: http://pastebin.ca/1503131 Jul 22 12:36:30 second.xml is this (where backButton is contained): http://pastebin.ca/1503135 Jul 22 12:38:04 ah, so dalvik uses ffi. what about jni? doesnt ffi provide the same native interface? Jul 22 12:38:43 how do i place a button at the bottom of a xml view? Jul 22 12:46:36 lianj: hey, i was doing some setup for androidrecord. Sqlite methods require a context, so currently i have a "manager" object which holds that context, which is then passed to new model objects. Is there a better approach to this that you can think of? Jul 22 12:47:25 any suggestion? Jul 22 12:48:47 mpardo: cool, will pull the src and read it. didnt had the time yesterday, was doing some connectbot ssh-sockt contentprovider tinkering Jul 22 12:49:39 lianj: there's not much of anything in the source right now... i was talking about the method i've used for previous projects. Jul 22 12:53:25 mpardo: its sounds correct to have a query-manager cache/provide that context Jul 22 12:54:01 so something like this makes sense: http://pastebin.com/m1c579e66 Jul 22 12:55:32 other orms don't need this, but I don't think there's any way of getting around it. I guess if I figure it out then i can change it in the future Jul 22 12:58:36 yeah, using a manager is nice. we should implement it as a service Jul 22 13:00:23 can anyone help me with a stupid PointNullException? I'm learning, I don't want alternative solutions... Jul 22 13:00:55 the problem seems to associate a click listener on a button, while it works with another one Jul 22 13:01:06 lianj: why as a service? Jul 22 13:01:20 seems like overkill Jul 22 13:01:51 source: http://pastebin.ca/1503131 ||| second.xml (where the "broken" button is): http://pastebin.ca/1503135 - all the project: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1512702/test/Test%20Layouts.zip Jul 22 13:01:53 thanks Jul 22 13:02:41 mpardo: other app could use and share this functionality Jul 22 13:03:34 i guess that would be a nice feature. I just want to get it up and running first. isn't that what shared data providers are for? Jul 22 13:06:19 you could be right. so push it out there :) git allows use to branch/change/adapt easily Jul 22 13:07:07 okay, you want commit privileges then? Jul 22 13:09:17 yes, i sent you a pm Jul 22 13:28:48 anyone got a surface based game to resume after a call? :/ Jul 22 13:34:43 What's the closest thing to C's sprintf in the android java environment? Jul 22 13:41:51 System.out.println("hello"); Jul 22 13:41:52 ? Jul 22 13:42:15 android.util.Log Jul 22 13:46:53 Let me rephrase that: I need to convert a double float to display just X.XX. What would perform this conversion in the android java environment? Jul 22 13:49:46 the java Formatter class? Jul 22 13:50:08 java.Formatter? Jul 22 13:50:40 java.util.Formatter Jul 22 13:50:44 http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/api/ Jul 22 13:50:53 on the left, find it Jul 22 13:50:55 stupid frames Jul 22 13:52:04 floats arent really recommended for mobile devices, correct= Jul 22 13:54:04 yeh Jul 22 13:54:06 no fpu unit Jul 22 13:54:11 flow Jul 22 13:54:13 Maybe they're not recommended...but I'm reading acclereometer data. Jul 22 13:54:23 And those are floats. Jul 22 13:55:28 Queue29 Thank you for the pointer on Formatter. I appreciate it. Jul 22 13:59:10 i don't think i've ever used that class outside of cs101 Jul 22 13:59:14 heh Jul 22 13:59:38 Well I've got some very long floats that I do not want to display in stock form. Jul 22 13:59:50 So I've got to figure something out. Jul 22 14:01:25 not so much not recommended as they'll be much slower Jul 22 14:01:43 all fpu calcs happen in software mode on this proc Jul 22 14:02:10 so, you can use them, just avoid them for tight loops, etc Jul 22 14:02:21 use int based math if you can Jul 22 14:07:50 Hrm...if I converted a float to an integer, performed math on the integers, then used Formatter to place the decimal point, would that be better than performing floating point math? Jul 22 14:08:09 That seems like a lot of extra work just to avoid floating point math. Jul 22 14:09:54 can you do your calculations with ints? Jul 22 14:11:35 Most likely. Jul 22 14:12:13 If the performance is truly worth it to avoid the fp calculations, then it's probably worth my time. Jul 22 14:12:20 What's the java class for regular expressions? Jul 22 14:12:52 java.util.Regex + java.util.regex.Pattern Jul 22 14:15:17 Queue29 Thank you. Jul 22 14:16:38 hi.. is there a difference between adb forward and redir add on the android consle? Jul 22 14:18:48 i don't believe so Jul 22 14:40:21 if i use forward i can't connect to open sockets on android, if i use redir i can... strange Jul 22 14:47:41 What is the correct way to get the number-on-screen-keyboard for an EditText with android:numeric="integer"? Currently I am using android:phoneNumber="true", which does the trick but might noch be correct. Jul 22 14:48:00 not Jul 22 14:50:21 ulrich, they don't have a numberic IME (to my dismay) Jul 22 14:50:32 I also use phone because I'm too lazy to make my own Jul 22 14:50:37 also, you should be using inputType Jul 22 14:51:26