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Jul 25 03:07:54 <b0nn> I really should have asked this here
Jul 25 03:08:01 <b0nn> I have a googlemap, that I draw pins on
Jul 25 03:08:08 <b0nn> now I want to draw a rectangle on it
Jul 25 03:08:14 <b0nn> but I don't know how to get the canvas for  draw(Canvas)
Jul 25 03:08:20 <b0nn> I tried draw(new Canvas()) but got a really cool ecrash :(
Jul 25 03:08:26 <b0nn> so, how do I get the correct canvas?
Jul 25 03:08:32 <b0nn> oh, and here's the crash http://pastebin.com/m77eb6f2a
Jul 25 04:06:57 <FenderMan> I have a simple 8x40 gradient (created in gimp) that looks great in every desktop browser but looks terrible on android's dev phone 1 phone. It has obvious blocking about every 40 pixels. Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong?
Jul 25 05:42:18 <Euclid> bla
Jul 25 05:42:21 <Euclid> wow
Jul 25 05:42:36 <Euclid> my nick, how did this happen.
Jul 25 05:42:49 <Jackmordal> thats better
Jul 25 11:45:10 <_KaiSoZ_> hi
Jul 25 11:45:42 <_KaiSoZ_> has anybody ever used android irc app?
Jul 25 11:59:12 <ewon> _KaiSoZ_: I use connectbot to ssh to my machine running irssi
Jul 25 13:51:26 <_KaiSoZ_> hi
Jul 25 13:51:48 <_KaiSoZ_> i'm planning on creating an app in order to move a lego midstorm with the G1 movement sensor
Jul 25 13:52:20 <ewon> you fool, you'll kill us all!
Jul 25 13:52:23 <_KaiSoZ_> i would create a .so file with the api to access the bluetooth (in fact, i already started...) and then a wraper in order to use it from java
Jul 25 13:52:25 <_KaiSoZ_> xDDDDDDDDDD
Jul 25 13:52:38 <Yuki> ohhh snap
Jul 25 13:52:43 <_KaiSoZ_> actuallly, that's my plan
Jul 25 13:52:43 <Yuki> NDKers  in da house
Jul 25 13:52:43 <Yuki> :X
Jul 25 13:52:45 <_KaiSoZ_> hahaha
Jul 25 13:52:47 <_KaiSoZ_> yes yes
Jul 25 13:52:51 <_KaiSoZ_> that was my question
Jul 25 13:53:04 <_KaiSoZ_> i started the develop before the ndk appeared
Jul 25 13:53:06 <Yuki> now if only i could get my product build system working right.....
Jul 25 13:53:25 <_KaiSoZ_> i don't know if actually the ndk would help me in some way or not..
Jul 25 13:53:32 <_KaiSoZ_> has anybody used it already?
Jul 25 13:53:36 <Yuki> if you're making a native library ....
Jul 25 13:53:40 <_KaiSoZ_> aha
Jul 25 13:53:43 <Yuki> look and see what the ndk actually lets you do
Jul 25 13:53:55 <Yuki> i doubt it will let you go that far, but it's a starting point
Jul 25 13:54:08 <Yuki> since the purpose of the NDK is to make libraries that are accessable from dalvik
Jul 25 13:54:34 <_KaiSoZ_> well, the only point i see so far (cause i didn't read the whole documentation) is the cross compiler (wich already built myself)
Jul 25 13:54:44 <_KaiSoZ_> aha
Jul 25 13:55:08 <_KaiSoZ_> well, i'm gonna read something, hang on a bit
Jul 25 13:55:11 <_KaiSoZ_> :p
Jul 25 14:00:14 <_KaiSoZ_> uff sorry actually i have to leave...
Jul 25 14:00:17 <_KaiSoZ_> i'll come back later
Jul 25 14:00:20 <_KaiSoZ_> c u!
Jul 25 14:48:29 <delx> Hey
Jul 25 14:49:56 <delx> I'm desperately trying to get a ListView to work with CheckedTextView items. I'm using a simple adapter and a row template that only consists of a CheckedTextView. How do I set the text of each item? (It's no possible through SimpleAdapter - it says "should be bound to boolean, not String")
Jul 25 15:01:18 <KNY> is File.exists() the cheapest way to tell if a file exists? Seems a bit heavy-handed to have to make a new File object if I just want to see if it exists
Jul 25 15:16:39 <delx> Fortunately I found the solution! Thanks anyway.
Jul 25 15:31:32 <KNY> I have a TextView that I made clickable and focusable, but there's no visual indicator when there's focus on it. How would I go about doing it like Browser, so there's a border around the text?
Jul 25 15:31:50 <KNY> do I have to create a selection skin or is there one built-in?
Jul 25 15:45:45 <aVirulence> hi all, I want to build the current trunk. Can anyone tell me where I can find the 'lunch' binary?
Jul 25 15:46:36 <KNY> lunch binary?
Jul 25 15:46:38 <Yuki> it's in the repo that you sync'd
Jul 25 15:46:43 <Yuki> make sure you are in your repo dir
Jul 25 15:46:48 <Yuki> and do . build/envsetup.sh
Jul 25 15:46:58 <Yuki> like, say, you're in ~/mydroid
Jul 25 15:47:16 <Yuki> ~/mydroid $ . build/envsetup.sh
Jul 25 15:47:18 <Yuki> then
Jul 25 15:47:22 <Yuki> ~/mydroid $ lunch
Jul 25 15:47:23 <Yuki> will work
Jul 25 15:47:54 <aVirulence> Yuki: ok, thanks :-)
Jul 25 15:48:12 <Yuki> don't worry, i'm only a few steps ahead of you
Jul 25 15:48:21 <Yuki> i just built and deployed my first real hardware image
Jul 25 15:48:22 <Yuki> :)
Jul 25 15:48:47 <aVirulence> Yuki: well, I actually did a couple of builds already, but with the old method. :-)
Jul 25 15:49:06 <Yuki> eh
Jul 25 15:49:10 <Yuki> i just jumped in
Jul 25 15:49:24 <Yuki> i'm going to rip the android out of android and put X11 and real linux back in? :D
Jul 25 15:50:30 <aVirulence> Yuki: lol, ok, good luck with that
Jul 25 15:50:37 <aVirulence> going to install the Moblin UI? ;-)
Jul 25 15:50:58 <Yuki> Moblin? No
Jul 25 15:51:00 <Yuki> GPE or Opie
Jul 25 15:51:12 <Yuki> Opie wouldn't require X, but it's good to have tinyx working anyway
Jul 25 15:51:40 <aVirulence> right, well, I'm curious whether you get any results :-)
Jul 25 15:51:57 <Yuki> i don't see why I wouldn't :)
Jul 25 15:52:06 <Yuki> it appears the display driver is just a standard framebuffer driver
Jul 25 15:52:19 <Yuki> so any fbdev supporting application kit should work, and the touchscreen is supported on the kernel level, so...
Jul 25 15:55:12 <aVirulence> Yuki, ok :-)
Jul 25 15:55:51 <aVirulence> so, anyone an idea why I get this error: build/core/main.mk:450: *** No TARGET_CPU_ABI defined by board config:   when I try to build Donut for Dream?
Jul 25 15:56:18 <Yuki> have you defined TARGET_CPU_ABI in AndroidBoard or BoardConfig? (Whichever one it is)
Jul 25 15:56:45 <aVirulence> no, I didn't change anything
Jul 25 16:01:23 <Super_Cat_Frog> Hi - is android development java only?
Jul 25 16:01:35 <KNY> Super_Cat_Frog, for the most part, yes
Jul 25 16:01:56 <Super_Cat_Frog> no jython?
Jul 25 16:01:57 <KNY> there is a scripting environment you can use for python (and maybe some others)
Jul 25 16:02:14 <aVirulence> Yuki: I'm not sure that I should. Shouldn't that be done automatically when you follow the Building for Dream guide?
Jul 25 16:02:21 <KNY> Super_Cat_Frog, http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/b854a7c2e50966f6/24a6de5dfe6b20f5
Jul 25 16:02:30 <Super_Cat_Frog> thanks
Jul 25 16:03:00 <nexsoftware> Anybody here using App Engine with Android?
Jul 25 16:03:22 <Yuki> aVirulence, donut is new and crazy and might not have it set
Jul 25 16:03:22 <Yuki> :P
Jul 25 16:03:47 <aVirulence> so, do you happen to know what I should set and where I should set it? ;-)
Jul 25 16:04:01 <nexsoftware> hehe, 'new and crazy'
Jul 25 16:04:09 <Yuki> no idea
Jul 25 16:04:25 <Yuki> let me look at my cupcake tree
Jul 25 16:22:52 <soulreaper> Super_Cat_Frog: you can user scala
Jul 25 16:22:58 <soulreaper> -r
Jul 25 16:29:14 <Super_Cat_Frog> hmm, i'll gander
Jul 25 16:29:43 <Super_Cat_Frog> although if i could just get eclipse to work, i might give java a go
Jul 25 16:29:54 <Super_Cat_Frog> ive used java before, didn't like it
Jul 25 16:30:10 <Super_Cat_Frog> but if i can make shiney buttons on my phone to do something interesting, i'd put up with it
Jul 25 16:30:56 <Super_Cat_Frog> im thinking along the lines of a python app on my desktop to listen on a port, list videos, play them with mplayer, and control mplayer with my phone ( pc is plugged into my tv )
Jul 25 16:31:10 <Super_Cat_Frog> probably a bit ambitious though
Jul 25 16:35:48 <aVirulence> Yuki: I'm guessing the board is msm7k? but I don't see where I should define that
Jul 25 16:37:02 <Yuki> no clue, really
Jul 25 17:07:26 <nazguul81> hey guys
Jul 25 17:12:13 <nazguul81> i got an activity, in its layout there's a listview. in activitie's oncreate() i get a reference to the listview with findviewbyid(), create a listview adapter and do listview.setadapter(adapter). this line runs well, but after oncreate() i get a notfoundexception in resource.java ...
Jul 25 17:23:25 <ccmas> I measured the events per second for the different SENSOR_DELAY_* values. In the ref. and books they are always sorted alphabetically, and you may think that SENSOR_DELAY_NORMAL is faster than SENSOR_DELAY_UI, this is not correct. Here is what I got: SENSOR_DELAY_NORMAL 5/s, SENSOR_DELAY_UI 13/s, SENSOR_DELAY_GAME 25/s, SENSOR_DELAY_FASTEST 50/s
Jul 25 17:23:54 <ccmas> I used the compass for this
Jul 25 17:25:15 <aVirulence> if you run Lunch, in what file is the build information specified?
Jul 25 17:53:30 <Dawson78> Hi
Jul 25 17:55:59 <Dawson78> I was wondering can anybody help me out with this question? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1182620/android-textview-in-view
Jul 25 17:56:01 <Dawson78> thanks
Jul 25 17:59:27 <KNY> Dawson78, do not cross-post questions between channels. They are separate channels for a reason
Jul 25 18:00:27 <Dawson78> ok then
Jul 25 18:03:09 <ccmas> Dawson78: use a FrameLayout, all items in a FrameLayout are stacked upon each other
Jul 25 18:03:18 <Dawson78> cheers thanks
Jul 25 18:04:32 <martin___> that is something I missed in the reference material, there is a "Hello, Views" but not a "Hello, Layouts" (or is there?)
Jul 25 18:04:53 <Dawson78> not that I could find..
Jul 25 18:17:44 <ccmas> look at the ApiDemos project in the sdk, thats the best source for learning and seeing what android can
Jul 25 18:41:41 <nazguul81> do selectors in xml HAVE to be in a file for their own ?
Jul 25 18:46:52 <shahon> hey, i'm new to android... but i was wondering if it's normal that it takes approximate 3 min until the compiled code gets executed by the AVD
Jul 25 18:47:27 <romainguy> nazguul81: yes
Jul 25 18:48:36 <nazguul81> i have 8 buttons whose backgroiundimages should change when pressing, when i wanna do it with electors i need 8 xml files ??
Jul 25 18:49:10 <nazguul81> shashon - do you talk about an emulator or a real device ?
Jul 25 18:49:24 <jsharkey> nazguul81: what do you mean "electors"?
Jul 25 18:49:36 <nazguul81> selectors of course
Jul 25 18:49:36 <shahon> unfortunately the emulator
Jul 25 18:49:44 <jsharkey> just set android:background to the same xml stateful drawable
Jul 25 18:49:56 <nazguul81> do you restart the emu everytime ? it only takes me like 3 minutes when restarting
Jul 25 18:50:21 <nazguul81> jsharkey i dont understand
Jul 25 18:50:38 <nazguul81> same stateful drawable ?
Jul 25 18:50:39 <jsharkey> so you've defined the stateful <selector> button xml, right?
Jul 25 18:50:55 <nazguul81> what does stateful mean ?
Jul 25 18:51:01 <shahon> yah i'm restarting it... so does it mean i can keep it open?
Jul 25 18:51:19 <martin___> shahon, the emulator takes a while to boot up, you can keep it open
Jul 25 18:51:19 <nazguul81> yes you can keep it open and just start your app from eclipse again, if you use eclipse
Jul 25 18:51:20 <shahon> thought I have to close it everytime
Jul 25 18:51:26 <shahon> ah k... thx
Jul 25 18:51:36 <nazguul81> no, closing everytime is a pain !
Jul 25 18:51:37 <nazguul81> ;)
Jul 25 18:51:40 <martin___> eclipse will just reinstall the app on device
Jul 25 18:51:58 <jsharkey> nazguul81: "stateful drawable" is just an xml in res/drawables that changes based on state (has a <selector> with multiple <item>s)
Jul 25 18:52:31 <nazguul81> ah ok, yes. i have a button and an extra xml file holding a selector for it
Jul 25 18:53:04 <jsharkey> yep, so your multiple <Button>s can all point at the same <selector> through android:background, right?
Jul 25 18:53:16 <jsharkey> or does the /foreground/ button item change as well?
Jul 25 18:53:20 <jsharkey> *button drawable
Jul 25 18:53:23 <nazguul81> no, the images are different for all buttons
Jul 25 18:53:26 <nazguul81> right
Jul 25 18:54:20 <romainguy> shahon: that would be like restarting your computer every time you want to test a change in your program :)
Jul 25 18:54:32 <jsharkey> you might put the common background image into a single <selector>, and then have multiple smaller <selector>s just for the foreground images that are button-specific
Jul 25 18:55:23 <jsharkey> nazguul81: also, you might peek at ImageButton in that case.  otherwise a normal Button with drawableTop should work
Jul 25 18:55:30 <nazguul81> hm, too complicated, i would have to redraw the button iamges
Jul 25 18:55:54 <jsharkey> nazguul81: this would help make sure any new buttons you make have an identical style
Jul 25 18:56:01 <jsharkey> so you only cut the background asset once
Jul 25 18:56:16 <shahon> romainguy, well under Windows it wouldn't surprise me ^^
Jul 25 18:57:02 <nazguul81> yeah, i built a custom button class that should change the image when clicking, but onDraw() was never called when i clicked ... so i came to the idea of selectors ... any guess why onDraw() wasnt triggered ?
Jul 25 19:54:26 <chomchom> Hello Hello
Jul 25 19:54:39 <chomchom> Google search is giving me no love this evening
Jul 25 19:54:44 <chomchom> I have a question
Jul 25 19:55:04 <sammyF> who knows, maybe we have an answer
Jul 25 19:55:05 <chomchom> Has anyone got a snippet for multiple contacts autocompletion
Jul 25 19:56:16 <chomchom> The APIs demo has a single entry, I'm looking for one which inserts a semi colon and you can insert multiple contacts
Jul 25 19:56:42 <chomchom> Looking on google code hosting for something yields no results
Jul 25 19:56:50 <sammyF> sorry. never did that
Jul 25 19:57:30 <chomchom> Thats cool, I just took it for granted that it would be relatively simple so was looking for something pre-rolled
Jul 25 20:06:01 <KNY> sammyF, how goes the game?
Jul 25 20:06:10 <chomchom> For anyone reading this and wondering the answer to getting multiple entries in the autocomplete
Jul 25 20:06:24 <chomchom> You extend AutoCompleteTextView
Jul 25 20:06:47 <KNY> chomchom, I solved it by just looking at how Messaging does it (Mms project in the AOSP tree)
Jul 25 20:07:11 <chomchom> Yes, I should have looked there thanks
Jul 25 20:07:28 <chomchom> I found it by this article here: http://computer-kungfu.net//index.php/extending_the_auto_complete_text_view.html
Jul 25 20:07:53 <sammyF> KNY: the one with the snake? it's dead
Jul 25 20:08:05 <KNY> sammyF, yeah, that one. What happened?
Jul 25 20:08:15 <sammyF> KNY: couldn't shift all the data to gl fast enough.
Jul 25 20:08:32 <KNY> that's shitty
Jul 25 20:08:59 <sammyF> KNY: so, after doing as much opitmization as I could, I had 8-9fps at the worst of time, and code I didn't understand even though I must have writen it at some point
Jul 25 20:09:19 <romainguy> there's a widget called MultiAutoCompleteTextView
Jul 25 20:09:25 <romainguy> which does multiple completions
Jul 25 20:09:28 <romainguy> no need to create your own
Jul 25 20:09:28 <sammyF> KNY: that's when I decided to write a puzzle game instead and just use canvas
Jul 25 20:09:34 <KNY> sammyF, heh
Jul 25 20:09:45 <chomchom> Ah, thanks romainguy
Jul 25 20:10:49 <KNY> romainguy, damn. I think every time you say something in here, it means I have more code I can remove :)
Jul 25 20:12:07 <chomchom> @KNY Thats a great thing!
Jul 25 20:12:17 <KNY> chomchom, I didn't say it wasn't :)
Jul 25 20:12:41 <KNY> though it would be even greater if I knew the framework as well as romain does so I could just write it perfectly to begin with, haha
Jul 25 20:12:42 <sammyF> KNY: basically, if you have a lot of vertices, triangles and colour/verts which change every other frame, your best bet is to send them in as few gl calls as possible. of course, that means that you do most of the rotations a.s.o. manually, which is very expensive. and then you end up with a very big buffer that needs to get to the gpu, and sending it seems to be quite expensive too (though less than sending lots of small buffers)
Jul 25 20:14:02 <sammyF> KNY, you've seen what the game was supposed to look like ... no way I can do it fast enough when there are more objects (maybe someone else can, but I'm definitely not skilled enough)
Jul 25 20:14:29 <KNY> sammyF, oh well. Maybe on tomorrow's hardware or something
Jul 25 20:15:48 <aVirulence> has anyone tried building the Donut branch for the Dream? I'm getting a build error..
Jul 25 20:15:53 <sammyF> yeah .. when I'm done with the current one I'll probably give up on Android all-together anyway. just too frustrating. I'll take the lovni code, port it to c++ and make a foss version of the game as it should have been... but for PCs ;)
Jul 25 20:18:11 <sammyF> KNY, how is your stuff coming along?
Jul 25 20:18:29 <KNY> I don't know if my ADC2 app will happen
Jul 25 20:18:52 <sammyF> KNY: you have until the end of august to submit it... looooong time
Jul 25 20:19:15 <KNY> sammyF, yeah I know
Jul 25 20:19:31 <KNY> but it involves writing some native code against a private API and I don't know if I want to haha
Jul 25 20:19:50 <KNY> though for a quarter million bucks I would probably write against any API, haha
Jul 25 20:20:15 <sammyF> do something else for ADC maybe?
Jul 25 20:20:38 <romainguy> KNY: I need to check whether submissions using private APIs are accepted :p
Jul 25 20:21:01 <KNY> romainguy, I didn't see anything in the T&C, but if you wouldn't mind double-checking, that would be really helpful
Jul 25 20:21:12 <sammyF> romainguy: I didn't see anything stting that they aren't
Jul 25 20:21:17 <romainguy> also
Jul 25 20:21:21 <romainguy> STOP USING PRIVATE APIS DAMMIT
Jul 25 20:21:53 <KNY> romainguy, hey! I haven't started yet!
Jul 25 20:22:08 <maheshs> Anyone tried Bluetooth with NDK?
Jul 25 20:22:14 <maheshs> Does it support HID profile?
Jul 25 20:22:24 <aVirulence> hmm does anyone know whether I should submit a bug report on my failed Android Donut branch build?
Jul 25 20:22:33 <KNY> maheshs, I'm pretty sure that the bluetooth library isn't exposed
Jul 25 20:22:43 <romainguy> the NDK doesn't give you bluetooth APIs
Jul 25 20:22:47 <romainguy> aVirulence: we know it has problems compiling
Jul 25 20:23:16 <aVirulence> romainguy: ok. so no need for me to file a bug report then..
Jul 25 20:34:40 <aVirulence> romainguy: can I track a bug report on that issue?
Jul 25 20:35:09 <romainguy> ask jbq
Jul 25 20:35:58 <aVirulence> ok
Jul 25 20:36:02 <jbq> what's the issue? :)
Jul 25 20:36:46 <KNY> donut build breaking
Jul 25 20:37:41 <KNY> aVirulence, I believe this might be interesting to you: https://review.source.android.com/#change,10780
Jul 25 20:37:50 <jbq> donut for dream, or donut in general?
Jul 25 20:38:53 <KNY> jbq, just before you came in: <aVirulence> hmm does anyone know whether I should submit a bug report on my failed Android Donut branch build?
Jul 25 20:39:09 <Yuki> i think he's the one who had the problem in that patch
Jul 25 20:39:14 <Yuki> er, that that patch addresses
Jul 25 20:40:33 <jbq> all right, I've fixed it to the point where "it builds on my machine".
Jul 25 20:41:25 <KNY> ah yes, the feared and revered "works on my machine!" bug status :)
Jul 25 20:42:11 <Jackmordal> anyone heard of motodev? if so is it anything more then ecplipse and the sdk bundled?
Jul 25 20:45:59 <Yuki> KNY, i thought that was a feature!
Jul 25 20:46:06 <Yuki> time for me to check out a donut tree
Jul 25 20:46:10 <Yuki> and hope it works
Jul 25 20:46:11 <Yuki> ;)
Jul 25 20:48:13 <maheshs> Is there no workaround for using Bluetooth?
Jul 25 20:48:23 <KNY> what's not working?
Jul 25 20:48:51 <maheshs> KNY, I want to use Bluetooth's HID profile.
Jul 25 20:48:56 <maheshs> Can you help me out?
Jul 25 20:49:19 <KNY> maheshs, never done it, sorry
Jul 25 21:27:43 <brombomb> Does anyone know how to make an AIDL in eclipse?
Jul 25 21:31:46 <chomchom> @brombomb yes just write the interface (.aidl) file as laid out in the demos. If you have the SDK set up correctly the accompanying .java should be generated for you.
Jul 25 21:33:21 <brombomb> I can't get eclipse to generate the .java file
Jul 25 21:36:00 <KNY> chomchom, this isn't twitter--you don't need the @ :)
Jul 25 21:36:32 <chomchom> sorry, compulsive habit.
Jul 25 21:36:40 <brombomb> my aidl is right and its driving me crazy
Jul 25 21:36:48 <KNY> tab-completion ftw
Jul 25 21:37:26 <brombomb> the aidl shows up in my package
Jul 25 21:37:29 <brombomb> but no java file
Jul 25 21:38:06 <chomchom> paste your aidl file into a paste site so we can see
Jul 25 21:39:31 <brombomb> http://pastebin.com/d2ecda782
Jul 25 21:39:41 <brombomb> and now I think I messed up my entire project :(
Jul 25 21:40:41 <Xuvious_> I'm saving a bitmap to the file system in OnPause.  Occasionally it gets corrupted, and looks half written.  I'm thinking my process is getting killed before OnPause completes...does that seem likely?
Jul 25 21:42:11 <brombomb> Xuvious_ from what I've read you can't can't on onPause to be completed.  Try OnStop
Jul 25 21:44:08 <brombomb> any ideas on the aidl chomchom?
Jul 25 21:44:17 <Xuvious_> Thanks brombomb, in what you read was there a time limit or something in OnPause, or is it more a matter of resource availability?...I'll look into the OnStop
Jul 25 21:44:25 <chomchom> on the phone :)
Jul 25 21:44:35 <brombomb> heh ok
Jul 25 21:45:24 <brombomb> Xuvious_ I found it while looking for screen rotation info.  When the screen rotates the OnDestory method is called and I think it just start processing before onPause finishes
Jul 25 21:46:13 <brombomb> Xuvious_ look just above the comments here:
Jul 25 21:46:13 <brombomb> http://androidguys.com/?p=2084
Jul 25 21:46:30 <Xuvious_> Oooh, so I'm probably holding onto too much memory in that case.
Jul 25 21:47:31 <Xuvious_> Thanks brombomb, I'll give it a read
Jul 25 21:55:14 <brombomb> np
Jul 25 22:02:58 <soulreaper> hi folks... i am getting a android.content.res.Resources$NotFoundException when inflating a layout from an xml file (given by id)
Jul 25 22:03:36 <soulreaper> is there anything i have to do to configure my LayoutInflater (obtained from the SystemService)
Jul 25 22:13:40 <chomchom> You still having problems with that interface brombomb?
Jul 25 22:13:54 <Xuvious_> soulreaper: Does your layout xml refer to a drawable resource or string resource that may be misspelled or missing?
Jul 25 22:14:20 <soulreaper> Xuvious_: the editor does not complain about missing resources
Jul 25 22:16:10 <brombomb> yes
Jul 25 22:16:21 <soulreaper> ah okay. i have mixed up R.id and R.layout which were both names similarly
Jul 25 22:17:43 <chomchom> I looked at your interface and thought you are starting out a bit big considering you can't get anything working try it with one void method
Jul 25 22:18:01 <brombomb> ok
Jul 25 22:18:06 <chomchom> with no arguments
Jul 25 22:18:38 <chomchom> If nothing is being generated look at the output in your console
Jul 25 22:18:48 <chomchom> is there anything red there? Are you using eclipse?
Jul 25 22:18:50 <brombomb> ok all I have is clearPLaylist()
Jul 25 22:18:58 <brombomb> no I used notepad
Jul 25 22:19:04 <chomchom> Ah
Jul 25 22:19:13 <soulreaper> Xuvious_: hm no that doesn't seam to be the real cause. Is there anything i have to consider when fetching the LayoutInflater?
Jul 25 22:19:21 <romainguy> no
Jul 25 22:19:28 <romainguy> there's nothing to do with the LayoutInflater
Jul 25 22:19:49 <brombomb> theres nothing in red when I open it in Eclipse
Jul 25 22:20:13 <chomchom> brombomb: Ok, well I'm not going to set out to change your dev habits but until you get this working, if you have eclipse lets work in that
Jul 25 22:21:23 <brombomb> thats fine with me
Jul 25 22:21:32 <chomchom> So to be clear, there are 0 warnings and 0 errors in the console in eclipse when you have your Android Type Project open in a recent version of eclipse with the ADT plugin installed and enabled?
Jul 25 22:21:34 <brombomb> I was just doing what they said on the web
Jul 25 22:21:43 <Xuvious_> soulreaper: Still getting the same exception with the R.layout.id?
Jul 25 22:21:46 <soulreaper> the exception says: android.content.res.Resources$NotFoundException: Resource ID #0x7f070000 type #0x12 is not valid
Jul 25 22:22:03 <brombomb> not sure on the ADT ?
Jul 25 22:22:14 <brombomb> but I can test my app on the Emulator
Jul 25 22:22:16 <soulreaper> romainguy: okay. there is not much one can do with the inflater anyways
Jul 25 22:22:21 <brombomb> just by deploying
Jul 25 22:22:33 <chomchom> It's a plugin for eclipse which will build all your project for you while you work on it
Jul 25 22:22:55 <brombomb> There are a few warnings about uneeded packacges, but thats for the next step (if I can get there)
Jul 25 22:22:59 <brombomb> no errors
Jul 25 22:23:02 <chomchom> Follow the Ref instructions to install it via the 'update site'
Jul 25 22:23:39 <brombomb> what update site? what Ref Instructions?
Jul 25 22:23:53 <chomchom> Without the plugin in your IDE you will manually have to invoke compilation of the aidl files. It's easier to get the IDE to do it.
Jul 25 22:24:08 <brombomb> yes
Jul 25 22:24:16 <brombomb> ok
Jul 25 22:24:35 <brombomb> whats the update site?
Jul 25 22:24:47 <chomchom> The official Android ones, http://developer.android.com/sdk/1.5_r3/installing.html
Jul 25 22:25:19 <chomchom> The update site is the URL of the place where the IDE gets the plugins from to update itself
Jul 25 22:25:34 <brombomb> hmm this looks familiar I think I did this
Jul 25 22:25:38 <brombomb> but I'll give it a try
Jul 25 22:25:51 <chomchom> Ok give it a whirl
Jul 25 22:27:23 <brombomb> looks like it's already installed
Jul 25 22:27:51 <chomchom> Ok so if you go into eclipse > preferences > android
Jul 25 22:28:11 <chomchom> then there is an SDK location set yes?
Jul 25 22:28:34 <brombomb> yes
Jul 25 22:28:57 <brombomb> D:\android-sdk-windows-1.5_r2
Jul 25 22:29:44 <chomchom> (thats definitely the correct location?) and if you right click on your Android project and select 'properties' it has a target version set?
Jul 25 22:30:08 <brombomb> yep
Jul 25 22:30:53 <brombomb> I've got my app mostly working
Jul 25 22:31:00 <brombomb> but been trying to make it into a background service
Jul 25 22:31:08 <brombomb> which from ym reading requires an AIDL
Jul 25 22:31:55 <soulreaper> anybody having an idea why my layout can't be inflated?
Jul 25 22:32:21 <chomchom> Not sure if you have to first list the service in the manifest, wouldn't imagine so but worth a try
Jul 25 22:32:30 <soulreaper> also i can't inflate any other layout here which i use in other player withouth a problem
Jul 25 22:32:31 <chomchom> you should also try deleting your R file
Jul 25 22:32:40 <KNY> soulreaper, do you have a pastebin?
Jul 25 22:32:52 <KNY> soulreaper, it looks like you mixed up your IDs or something
Jul 25 22:33:24 <romainguy> also the stack trace could be useful
Jul 25 22:33:40 <brombomb> ok I'll try deleting the R file
Jul 25 22:34:33 <chomchom> I always use the wrong context to inflate from. Check the context of which you are inflating form.
Jul 25 22:34:42 <brombomb> that just remakes it, but no TMSInterface.java file
Jul 25 22:35:07 <soulreaper> chomchom: my R file is cleaned. what other context than my current activity could be there?
Jul 25 22:36:06 <chomchom> I mean instead of LayoutInflater.from(this) it could be another LayoutInflater.from(activity);
Jul 25 22:37:01 <soulreaper> i am actually using: context.getSystemService(Context.LAYOUT_INFLATER_SERVICE)
Jul 25 22:37:42 <chomchom> Try it with a local LayoutInflator factory as well
Jul 25 22:38:10 <chomchom> brombomb: reference your services in the manifest
Jul 25 22:38:22 <brombomb> but they haven't been created yet
Jul 25 22:38:28 <brombomb> thats why I need the aidl
Jul 25 22:38:44 <brombomb> so If I reference it I get an error
Jul 25 22:38:54 <soulreaper> chomchom: how would that be done?
Jul 25 22:39:15 <chomchom> something like: <service android:name=".TMSInterface"     	android:process=":remote">
Jul 25 22:40:28 <chomchom> sorry wrong one, it would be something like: 			LayoutInflater factory = LayoutInflater.from(activity);
Jul 25 22:40:29 <chomchom> 			final View view = factory.inflate(R.layout.layout_id, null);
Jul 25 22:40:56 <soulreaper> yes i have also tried that. no luck.
Jul 25 22:41:54 <chomchom> brombomb if you are not getting any error messages saying that the service could not be created in the console the SDK is likely not set up right
Jul 25 22:42:15 <chomchom> Because I have done stupid stuff in the past
Jul 25 22:42:34 <chomchom> where I had the wrong spelling of a service and it didn't create it
Jul 25 22:42:34 <skay> I'm having trouble installing interpreters on ASE, would someone help me? my phone is not having trouble connecting to the network. I can open sites int eh browser
Jul 25 22:42:42 <chomchom> But it always gave me an error
Jul 25 22:43:19 <brombomb> chomchom what if I sent you my project folder?  Could you take a look?
Jul 25 22:44:13 <chomchom> sure, I'm in a charitable, easily distracted mood this evening
Jul 25 22:44:26 <brombomb> heh
Jul 25 22:44:35 <chomchom> send it to kevin AT novoda.com
Jul 25 22:44:50 <soulreaper> thanks for your help folks. i'll pospone the problem until tomorrow.
Jul 25 22:45:00 <soulreaper> take care everybody
Jul 25 22:45:40 <brombomb> send chomchom
Jul 25 22:45:42 <brombomb> *sent
Jul 25 22:47:07 <brombomb> feel free to move the files around... I hit a wrong by accident and not sure how I moved some files
Jul 25 22:47:51 <chomchom> cool I'll look at it in a sec
Jul 25 22:49:27 <brombomb> thanks
Jul 25 22:53:09 <chomchom> do you have the src dir on your build path?
Jul 25 22:54:14 <brombomb> I think thats the button I pressed
Jul 25 22:54:18 <brombomb> that messed the files up
Jul 25 22:54:39 <brombomb> "Build Path >> Use as Source Folder"
Jul 25 22:54:43 <chomchom> Iyup
Jul 25 22:54:49 <chomchom> works for me
Jul 25 22:55:01 <chomchom> you had your aidl file in the res dir
Jul 25 22:55:06 <chomchom> it should be in src
Jul 25 22:55:21 <chomchom> beside the other source
Jul 25 22:56:07 <brombomb> I show it in gen com touchmusic
Jul 25 22:56:26 <chomchom> I'll send you back the working one
Jul 25 22:57:22 <brombomb> ok
Jul 25 22:57:42 <chomchom> done
Jul 25 22:58:22 <chomchom> you'll want to re-delete the R file and then delete the generated interface file to make sure it is working
Jul 25 22:58:59 <chomchom> The key here is you should definitely be looking at the console for errors. If they aren't coming up you need to fix the setup
Jul 25 23:00:22 <brombomb> by console you mean the "problems" tab below my source code?
Jul 25 23:00:32 <brombomb> or the "console" tab?
Jul 25 23:00:40 <chomchom> console tab
Jul 25 23:01:07 <chomchom> It's got the output from the ADT plugin
Jul 25 23:01:27 <brombomb> didn't even see it there ;)
Jul 25 23:04:49 <brombomb> how come I no longer see touchmusica?.jav
Jul 25 23:05:01 <brombomb> touchmusic.java?
Jul 25 23:06:13 <chomchom> not sure, are you looking under TouchMusic > src > com.touchmusic ?
Jul 25 23:07:03 <brombomb> ya
Jul 25 23:07:09 <brombomb> I'm just gonna create a new project
Jul 25 23:07:14 <brombomb> and see where I go
Jul 25 23:07:25 <brombomb> I'm updating to the new 1.5 R3 sdk
Jul 25 23:08:31 <chomchom> Ok but if you import the current project as an Android project it should work considering it is working for me here
Jul 25 23:08:57 <brombomb> ok
Jul 25 23:13:35 <brombomb> my whole workbench got horked
Jul 25 23:14:41 <chomchom> dearie me.
Jul 25 23:14:50 <chomchom> You could just start a fresh new workspace
Jul 25 23:15:58 <brombomb> yep
Jul 25 23:49:47 <Durthul> hi all
Jul 25 23:50:30 <Durthul> i have a problem with adt plugin and eclipse... anyone can helpme??
Jul 25 23:51:51 <Durthul> hi???
Jul 25 23:52:45 <KNY> Durthul, not if you don't start by clearly explaining your problem
Jul 25 23:53:52 <chomchom> Please don't ask to ask.
Jul 25 23:55:15 <Durthul> ok i have been installed eclipse and the adt plugin but on window preferences dont appears android section... so i cant tell eclipse where is the sdk!! i dont know what im doing wrong
Jul 25 23:56:28 <chomchom> Well the ADT plugin has not installed correctly
Jul 25 23:57:31 <chomchom> Retrace your steps, make sure you have the latest version of eclipse and the ADT plugin and then step through the reference on how to set up that google provide
Jul 25 23:57:57 <Durthul> ummm i unistalled the plugin and reinstalled from a zip file... and results same
Jul 25 23:58:53 <KNY> what platform?
Jul 25 23:59:05 <Durthul> suse 11.1
Jul 25 23:59:09 <frez> I'm trying to make a custom listview with data from a cursor. What's the best approach, extending BaseAdapter?
Jul 25 23:59:31 <KNY> frez, does SimpleCursorAdapter not work for your needs?
Jul 25 23:59:37 <Durthul> eclipse 3.4 adt 0.9.1 sdk 1.5 rc3
Jul 26 00:00:57 <KNY> Durthul, 64 bit? 32 bit?
Jul 26 00:00:59 <frez> KNY: not sure, can I customize layout in each row, with different data with the simplecursoradapter?
Jul 26 00:01:31 <KNY> frez, look into using a ViewBinder--it might do what you want it to do
Jul 26 00:02:29 <Durthul> 64 bit
Jul 26 00:03:17 <frez> thanks, I'll look into that :)
Jul 26 00:04:43 <localtone> I want to allow for rating in my application. The interface will be just like the Android market, where you select the stars and then choose how many stars to rate the item. Does anyone know of or have a quick example of how to do this?
Jul 26 00:05:39 <brombomb> chomchom finally all re setup.  I readded the aidl and still nothing
Jul 26 00:05:49 <chomchom> lol
Jul 26 00:06:10 <brombomb> localtone it's a progress bar
Jul 26 00:06:27 <brombomb> Start there then there is a sub attribute that allows for the star ratings
Jul 26 00:07:08 <chomchom> brombomb: Still no errors in the console?
Jul 26 00:08:01 <localtone> brombomb: Really? I'll take a look at ProgressBar. I would have never thought it would be related a progress bar. Thanks for your help!
Jul 26 00:08:33 <brombomb> localtone: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/RatingBar.html
Jul 26 00:08:48 <brombomb> sorry RatingBar but its a subclass of the Progress Bar
Jul 26 00:09:12 <brombomb> [2009-07-25 17:25:03 - TouchMusic] no classfiles specified
Jul 26 00:09:12 <brombomb> [2009-07-25 17:25:03 - TouchMusic] Conversion to Dalvik format failed with error 1
Jul 26 00:09:30 <brombomb> thats all I have for my Console
Jul 26 00:09:46 <localtone> brombomb: That's exactly what I was looking for. Sweet! Thanks!
Jul 26 00:10:28 <brombomb> heh no problem localtone
Jul 26 00:10:33 <brombomb> Wait!!!!
Jul 26 00:10:39 <brombomb> I think it worked chomchom
Jul 26 00:10:49 <chomchom> phew
Jul 26 00:10:51 <brombomb> I had 8 Warnings about imports
Jul 26 00:11:03 <brombomb> so I double clicked on it and it opened the TMSInterface.java
Jul 26 00:11:24 <chomchom> imports really won't affect it
Jul 26 00:11:25 <brombomb> hahahaha there it is!
Jul 26 00:11:30 <chomchom> hoorah
Jul 26 00:11:46 <brombomb> you would not believe how long it's taken me
Jul 26 00:11:58 <brombomb> prob about the same amount of time to code the rest of my app
Jul 26 00:13:12 <chomchom> to be fair. Back in the day
Jul 26 00:13:17 <chomchom> it took me a while as well
Jul 26 00:13:47 <brombomb> Does anyone know more about this round of the Android Dev Challenge?
Jul 26 00:13:51 <chomchom> so don't feel bad. I think Services are the hardest part of the Android platform. Maybe not generating them,  but they are the hardest part
Jul 26 00:14:01 <brombomb> we'll see
Jul 26 00:14:08 <chomchom> so you have more head pain in store
Jul 26 00:14:12 <brombomb> I have one other big "obstacle" I'm trying to tackle
Jul 26 00:14:19 <brombomb> Rotating the display
Jul 26 00:14:29 <brombomb> that seems to be looking ugly too
Jul 26 00:15:31 <KNY> brombomb, what are you asking about with regards to ADC2? asking if anyone knows anything about it is pretty vague
Jul 26 00:16:40 <brombomb> well I just stumbled across it.  Does it have as big of a "buzz" out there as the first?  They seem to be offering a lot more prizes
Jul 26 00:16:56 <brombomb> Im just trying to feel out how "competitve" my app will be
Jul 26 00:17:11 <KNY> brombomb, we'll all know on september first
Jul 26 00:17:40 <chomchom> brombomb take part with something that you think is a great idea
Jul 26 00:17:57 <chomchom> don't have your heart set on winning, but try really hard!
Jul 26 00:17:57 <brombomb> Oh I think I have a great idea
Jul 26 00:18:02 <brombomb> hahah
Jul 26 00:18:13 <brombomb> thanks
Jul 26 00:19:10 <Durthul> hey no idea about my problem?... i have reinstalled the plugin executing eclipse as root but it dont appears in the menu!! the other plugin, ddms yes but nothin about android!!
Jul 26 00:19:18 <chomchom> There are a lot of pretty experienced people in the game now so it's unlikely you will have the most polished offering but that shouldn't stop you from getting excited at offering something good. Think long term whether it be for your own career or for other people/friends you'd like to help.
Jul 26 00:20:03 <brombomb> good call chomchom
Jul 26 00:37:08 <brombomb> so now I can't deploy to the emulator
Jul 26 00:37:48 <brombomb> "Application already deployed. No need to reinstall." in console, but on device when I try to launch it I get "Application is not installed on your phone"
Jul 26 00:39:17 <chomchom> For anyone wondering about the multiple auto selections from the contacts in future I posted a snippet: http://www.androidsnippets.org/snippets/57/
Jul 26 00:45:33 <morrildl_> CompBrain: what do you want to know?
Jul 26 00:46:31 <morrildl_> oops
Jul 26 00:46:37 <morrildl_> brombomb: what do you want to know?
Jul 26 00:46:42 <morrildl_> stupid tab completion
Jul 26 00:46:46 <morrildl_> sorry CompBrain
Jul 26 00:47:25 <KNY> how did you mis-tab complete that? haha
Jul 26 00:50:05 <brombomb> my program won't install on my AVD
Jul 26 00:50:16 <brombomb> in debug or normal mode
Jul 26 00:54:51 <brombomb> correction it installed but I can't find it/run it
Jul 26 01:00:00 <morrildl_> brombomb: do you have a Launcher <intent-filter> set up?
Jul 26 01:00:16 <brombomb> I don't think so
Jul 26 01:00:26 <morrildl_> then that's why it would not appear in the Launcher :)
Jul 26 01:00:37 <morrildl_> does it run if you hit the Run button in Eclipse?
Jul 26 01:00:43 <brombomb> no
Jul 26 01:01:43 <brombomb> and it won't debug
Jul 26 01:07:47 <morrildl_> brombomb: do you have a device attached?
Jul 26 01:09:08 <brombomb> No I'm trying to use the Emulator
Jul 26 01:10:03 <morrildl_> yes, but do you have a phone attached anyway?
Jul 26 01:10:15 <morrildl_> Also, what does the console say?
Jul 26 01:11:17 <brombomb> "Application already deployed. No need to reinstall."
Jul 26 01:11:30 <brombomb> Touchmuusic.apk installed on device
Jul 26 01:11:33 <brombomb> done!
Jul 26 01:11:45 <brombomb> [2009-07-25 19:10:08 - TouchMusic] No Launcher activity found!
Jul 26 01:11:45 <brombomb> [2009-07-25 19:10:08 - TouchMusic] The launch will only sync the application package on the device!
Jul 26 01:12:01 <KNY> brombomb, try uninstalling it and then running it again
Jul 26 01:12:51 <brombomb> how do I setup the launcher?
Jul 26 01:13:21 <KNY> AndroidManifest
Jul 26 01:15:42 <brombomb> k thx
Jul 26 01:16:38 <brombomb> that fixed it :)
Jul 26 01:48:19 <_Spyrorocks> Hey guys, Just a quick question, I created an app that uses an online MP3 search engine to stream full tracks to your phone, would this app be allowed in the android market or is it breaking any rules?
Jul 26 02:58:19 <brombomb> if its streaming I don't see it being an issue
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