**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 27 02:59:57 2009 Jul 27 03:00:35 Map 1 - throw 'Map 1' into the spinner and then using 'getSelectedItem()' pick up the 'value' which is 'map1' Jul 27 03:01:14 oh, do it that guys way Jul 27 03:01:21 but what's confusing you is name and value Jul 27 03:01:28 you're using value, he used name Jul 27 03:01:42 but in his example they are both the same Jul 27 03:02:01 it's a request code i assign to it Jul 27 03:03:00 so it should be a final int, correct? Jul 27 03:03:13 http://osdir.com/ml/AndroidDevelopers/2009-06/msg02926.html this one has a bit of complete code Jul 27 03:03:14 yeh Jul 27 03:08:04 Hmmm....It's poping up the image chooser but the onActivityResult never gets called Jul 27 03:13:12 where do u put the startactivity? are they in the same class? Jul 27 03:14:19 yes Jul 27 03:14:24 so u didn't see the Log message then? Jul 27 03:15:07 no Jul 27 03:15:17 the activity starts and then when it finishes nothing Jul 27 03:15:24 hmm... Jul 27 03:16:10 can you try to put startActivity in onCreate to see if it is called at start up? Jul 27 03:16:52 I know the activity is started because I see the photo picker Jul 27 03:17:03 but when it finishes my onActivityResult doesn't get called Jul 27 03:17:39 yeh but can u give that a try? Jul 27 03:17:54 wait, startActivity is called inside a function called from a button listener Jul 27 03:17:59 coudl that hose it? Jul 27 03:18:54 u know there are so much thing that can go wrong (that's what happen with me), i just want to see if it works from onCreate Jul 27 03:19:17 ok it does Jul 27 03:19:32 i have similar issue before and it works fine from onCreate so i know it works and i have to find the source of the problem from there Jul 27 03:19:35 which seems to mean that it thinks the button listener is starting Jul 27 03:19:56 so u need find the source of the problem urself now ;) Jul 27 03:23:27 Listner question: I attach an ananomous listner to a button in my activity. The way I got it to call the correct functions was the list the full class name, this and the function. Like MyActivity.this.finish(); Jul 27 03:23:31 Is that correct? Jul 27 03:24:07 why don't u pastebin it? Jul 27 03:41:00 http://pastebin.com/d66594aa4 Jul 27 03:41:44 yes, but why do you ahve an underscore in the class name? :) Jul 27 03:42:22 why don't you have underscores in yours?\ Jul 27 03:42:50 underscores and cooked food are what seperates us from animals Jul 27 03:44:20 whaledawg, lol! Jul 27 03:47:01 fixed it, I forgot that my test code was inside a seperate intent Jul 27 03:47:26 and I was calling finish right after I launched the photopicker Jul 27 03:47:40 so it was gone by the time the activityResult came around Jul 27 03:47:57 WHY IS ANDROID BUILT ON LIES!!!! Jul 27 03:50:14 duh! something is sucking up my cpu! Jul 27 03:52:38 yeh, that's what happen to me as well Jul 27 03:52:56 i am gonna reboot my machine Jul 27 04:11:45 I populate my spinner from String.xml, but when the application starts, it automatically selects the first item and onItemSelected is called. I want to call it on action of user selection. Jul 27 04:11:45 Is there a way to have nothing selected? A blank value ( but then that blank value appears in the list for the spinner : ( ) Jul 27 04:35:36 <_Auron_> http://pastebin.org/4475 <-- why is onCreate called again the second time I run my app from the app shortcut (even though the app is never destroyed/fully terminated), and if there's no way around it being called twice, how do I fix the openGL surface initialization in onCreate? Jul 27 04:37:25 <_Auron_> yet onRestart() is called instead of onCreate() if I go back to the app by holding Home and selecting my app from there Jul 27 04:37:42 _Auron_, what launchMode is your app using? Jul 27 04:37:59 <_Auron_> KNY: .. default? I don't know. Jul 27 04:38:16 <_Auron_> I don't have anything special set in the manifest Jul 27 04:38:17 _Auron_, you might want to look into that Jul 27 04:38:31 http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/manifest/activity-element.html#lmode Jul 27 04:39:05 <_Auron_> oh god Jul 27 04:39:17 I believe singleTask might be what you want Jul 27 04:39:28 (also, android:multiprocess="false") Jul 27 04:39:31 <_Auron_> yeah Jul 27 04:40:01 <_Auron_> default is false, but doesn't hurt to force-set Jul 27 04:40:48 maybe android:noHistory="true" ? I'm not sure what you want to happen Jul 27 04:41:24 ooo, and android:finishOnTaskLaunch :) Jul 27 04:42:04 <_Auron_> ooookay so this completely fixes the freezing issue Jul 27 04:42:12 haha Jul 27 04:42:14 <_Auron_> now I need to figure out why the texture breaks. Jul 27 04:42:22 not sure Jul 27 04:42:28 trace through your logcat Jul 27 04:42:32 I need to get some sleep though Jul 27 04:42:47 good luck; leave me a /msg if you get it Jul 27 04:42:47 <_Auron_> my logcat tells me my texture gets generated :/ Jul 27 04:43:03 <_Auron_> night Jul 27 04:43:10 <_Auron_> and thanks Jul 27 04:43:10 well Jul 27 04:43:14 there's part of that fixed Jul 27 04:43:18 <_Auron_> yeah Jul 27 04:55:28 <_Auron_> okay, so what I have now is that the texture gets created, draws in the first frame, and the second frame it 'breaks'. Jul 27 04:55:39 <_Auron_> very weird Jul 27 05:08:51 Hey guys, does Android's browser support any vector formats in the WebView? I have this large image i am displaying and it is lagging. Jul 27 05:09:27 maybe SVG won't be lagging so much Jul 27 05:12:19 vladikoff: SVG is not supported Jul 27 05:12:38 and I would be very surprised if displaying SVG was faster than a bitmap Jul 27 05:13:46 understatement of the day :D Jul 27 05:14:12 <_Auron_> romainguy: I got banned from android-developers for posting my plea for help Jul 27 05:14:49 <_Auron_> but KNY was able to help me out with manifest settings; at least for the freezing part. the broken texture issue isn't fixed yet, but I'm changing my code to go back to GL10 instead of GL11 since I discovered VBOs would be next to useless for me Jul 27 05:24:23 this network gets a lot of net splits Jul 27 05:25:51 <_Auron_> lately yeah Jul 27 05:26:07 hello jbq, romain. Jul 27 05:26:16 hey jasta Jul 27 05:28:33 _Auron_: banned?? Jul 27 05:28:44 hoyo jasonchen Jul 27 05:28:47 er jasta Jul 27 05:38:42 can somebody help me get my textview scrolling as a marquee? Jul 27 05:39:01 did you enable marquee? Jul 27 05:39:04 yes Jul 27 05:39:05 and singleline Jul 27 05:39:51 then it will marquee when the textview is selected/focused Jul 27 05:40:19 it cant just always do it? Jul 27 05:41:08 "it will marquee when the textview is selected/focused" Jul 27 05:41:15 look at the API, you'll know what to do Jul 27 05:42:05 where do you see that? it doesn't say that under the xml attribute or setEllipsize Jul 27 05:42:20 see what? Jul 27 05:42:57 that message Jul 27 05:43:11 i did look at the API, i cant find where it mentions that it needs to be selected/focused Jul 27 05:43:30 if i do a setSelected(true) in the code my text just dissapears Jul 27 05:43:54 that's probably because you are using a text appearance whose selected text color is the same as your background color Jul 27 05:45:16 i see Jul 27 05:45:16 thanks **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jul 27 05:58:10 2009 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 27 06:00:14 2009 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jul 27 06:02:16 2009 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 27 06:03:37 2009 Jul 27 06:32:17 Hello. I have an app that needs to poll a URL every 15 seconds. In the Photostream app, the polling is started via a BootReceiver. If I only want to schedule the polling after a certain Activity has completed, where would be the best place to schedule it with the AlarmManager ? Do I still need to create a Service ? Jul 27 06:33:06 every 15 seconds? Damn, that's gonna kill the battery. Jul 27 06:33:34 Well the polling frequency is configurable. Jul 27 06:33:45 you can broadcast an intent when the activity completes Jul 27 06:33:52 and use a broadcast receiver to start the polling Jul 27 06:33:58 but not every 15 seconds Jul 27 06:34:47 even rss readers don't poll at that rate Jul 27 06:34:58 (I wouldn't poll more than once every 30 to 60 minutes, and even then I'd feel dirty doing it) Jul 27 06:35:31 Well the traffic in the exchange is very tiny. And I'm using ETAGs. Jul 27 06:36:14 but you still have to bring up the radio, get the data connection live, and continue powering it until it times out. Jul 27 06:37:17 Even if you were just establishing the socket every 15 seconds and not transmitting a byte on it, you'd still drain the battery in a few hours. Jul 27 07:24:33 The javadoc for Activity says: "There are situations where the system will simply kill the activity's hosting process without calling this method (or any others) in it." The this method refers to the #onDestroy() method. I plan to unschedule an alarm in onDestroy(). If my hosting process dies, is it guaranteed that the AlarmManager's scheduled job is killed ? Jul 27 07:26:41 ashitaka: yes. Jul 27 07:26:59 err wait, what am i saying Jul 27 07:27:00 no :) Jul 27 07:27:19 the point of AlarmManager is to be able to wake up your app, possibly even starting your process. Jul 27 07:27:23 and it will. Jul 27 07:28:18 that said, if you want to unschedule an alarm, why would you do it in ondestroy and not in onpause or onstop? Jul 27 07:28:41 onDestroy, for isntance, may not be called for quite some time after the user has left your screen Jul 27 07:29:01 do you really wish to have an alarm active in that instance? and if so, why did you want to unschedule it when ondestroy is finally called? Jul 27 07:29:05 I might be able to do it in onStop Jul 27 07:29:34 i can see no situation in which ondestroy is the right place to unschedule an alarm. Jul 27 07:29:43 but maybe im just not thinking about it broadly enough Jul 27 07:30:45 The alarm needs to be active only for the duration of the execution of the app. If the user decides to exit the app, then the alarm needs to be unschedule. Jul 27 07:30:58 That was what I wanted to do. Jul 27 07:31:25 then you want onStop Jul 27 07:31:32 onDestroy is not synonymous with the user leaving your screens. Jul 27 07:31:39 please refer to the activity lifecycle diagram. Jul 27 07:31:49 Ok. Thanks Jul 27 07:33:09 btw, i doubt an alarmmanager is really what you want. Jul 27 07:33:27 are you using it as a timer? Jul 27 07:34:44 It is scheduling an AsyncTask to execute every x duration. Jul 27 07:34:56 yeah, you dont want an alarmmanager. Jul 27 07:35:18 use the Handler class to schedule your asynctask to run Jul 27 07:35:19 Why not ? It sounds like the perfect fit. Jul 27 07:35:24 no, it doesn't. Jul 27 07:35:47 AlarmManager is designed to wake the CPU from sleep. it is very expensive for timers only active when the cpu isn't sleeping. Jul 27 07:36:01 for that, youc an use the event loop through Handler. Jul 27 07:36:12 there is a discussion on exactly this blogged about a long time ago by Dan Morrill Jul 27 07:36:17 bbl Jul 27 07:43:09 Morning! Jul 27 08:24:38 is there a way to simulate an actual keypress event as if i had pressed a key?? Jul 27 08:25:25 hello Jul 27 08:27:47 Gaz, what do you need it for? There is probably a better way. Jul 27 08:27:51 Gaz, monkey? Jul 27 08:28:26 http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/monkey.html ... but this is probably not what you need Jul 27 08:28:51 well i have this extremely odd bug where the first keypress in gameplay most times just wont work and it brings up the "force close / wait " dialog, BUT if i do one keypress on my first screen (the languagfe select screen) it works perfectly and the issue is gone, so im kind of hoping i can have a keypress evento n the lang screen to solve the issue, ive tried a lot of things :/ Jul 27 08:29:29 better a solution than a hack :D Jul 27 08:29:32 That sounds like an awefull hack Gaz Jul 27 08:29:36 yeh Jul 27 08:29:40 i really dont care at this point Jul 27 08:29:47 ive spent WEEKS looking for a solution Jul 27 08:29:56 any hack will do me Jul 27 08:29:57 when clicking to cause the ANR, what code is being run that might make it happen? Jul 27 08:29:58 hehe Jul 27 08:30:00 :).. Take coffee break, have a smoke and do some debugging Jul 27 08:30:31 lol Jul 27 08:30:33 and Gaz, logcat :P is an error being thrown? Jul 27 08:30:34 easier said than done Jul 27 08:30:37 i HAVE NO CLUES Jul 27 08:30:41 logcat shows nothing Jul 27 08:30:55 well there's your problem ;P Jul 27 08:30:57 I'm developing web sites for mobile phones and I was trying to find a way to detect when the screen orientation has been changed under Android's browser Jul 27 08:30:59 something like the onorientationchange event under iPhone Jul 27 08:30:59 start logging stuff :F Jul 27 08:31:00 is there such a thing existing ? Jul 27 08:31:00 martin___, ANR? nothing its simply trying to accept a key press event Jul 27 08:31:07 (sorry to interrupt the conversation) Jul 27 08:32:16 this hack would def be enough for me, you cant quite realise how long and complex this issue is unless you download a snapshot of my brain for the last month Jul 27 08:32:38 as far as im concerned its an android bug Jul 27 08:33:39 strange that a keypres son lang screen works fine Jul 27 08:35:27 No one knows how to detect orientation change under Android's brwoser ? Jul 27 08:35:37 usign Javascript Jul 27 08:35:38 nope Jul 27 08:35:42 not I Jul 27 08:36:08 :/ ok thanks Jul 27 08:36:11 unless you wrote an app that specifically sent the info Jul 27 08:36:30 do you know where I could find more detailed info about the browser's webkit ? Jul 27 08:36:40 couldn't find anything relevant so far Jul 27 08:37:09 if you have looked at d.android.com then no Jul 27 08:38:46 .. I did Jul 27 08:38:50 but thanx Jul 27 08:38:56 I'll keep digging Jul 27 08:42:43 blorentin, if it helps.. http://developer.android.com/reference/android/webkit/package-summary.html Jul 27 08:43:54 thanx, I already have a look at this. But I would need some Javascript code to detect it... Jul 27 08:45:43 god dammnnnit Jul 27 08:46:02 you could try the main webkit site, and i think they use squirrelfish for java.. might find a squirrelfish script to do it Jul 27 08:46:24 java/javascript Jul 27 08:48:38 ok, I'll take a look Jul 27 08:52:10 <_yoyo> how to let RelativeLayout not use fullscreen, that is, always keep statusbar visible? Jul 27 09:12:14 hello ;) Jul 27 09:14:41 anyone knows how to force show on-screen keyboard? :) Jul 27 09:17:40 ive been testing on real device so long i dont remembe rhow to get an emulator going Jul 27 09:17:42 anyone? Jul 27 09:20:52 Gaz : unplug your phone Jul 27 09:21:20 if you have a virtual device set up it will use it automatically when the phone isn't plugged in (but check your launch configuration) Jul 27 09:23:18 Hello I've been trying to get included in the SMS/MMS attachment menu, so you can select attach and then my specific app. Jul 27 09:23:53 I tried by registering intent filters for everything but it was still not available for selection as a type in the attachment choice menu Jul 27 09:25:01 I'm now looking over the source code in the android repo Jul 27 09:25:31 I can see that the bundled sms app does not openly request attachments of different types Jul 27 09:25:49 instead it queries a custom adapter: AttachmentTypeSelectorAdapter Jul 27 09:26:11 With a bunch of predefined apps for different tasks Jul 27 09:26:24 Can anyone comment on this? Jul 27 09:27:01 I presume this means that it is currently impossible to add attachment functionality to the SMS/MMS app bundled with the current distros Jul 27 09:27:51 Hi, I want to read a file in Latin-1, I can open the file using openFileInput which gives me a FileInputStream. How do I make it use the "ISO-8859-1" encoding? Jul 27 09:54:33 heya Jul 27 09:55:10 ok so I'm building a menu from a string array. If there are no drawable resources in my package it works ok. If I add any drawables, I get NullPointerException trying to build that menu. (Which doesn't use any drawables.) Jul 27 09:56:06 weird or what? I have a hunch that the drawables are somehow messing up the creation of the resource package, but I'm not sure if that's the case or why Jul 27 10:00:11 wo weird Jul 27 10:10:53 ugh... didn't find the "cause of the cause" so to speak (which would be nice to know so I can keep it from happening again) but I seem to have found the immediate cause Jul 27 10:11:10 stale files, if I delete my whole gen and bin before I build this doesn't happen Jul 27 10:17:25 why does this line alwayas return false from the create new file regardless of what name i call my file? Jul 27 10:17:26 try { Jul 27 10:17:27 File words = new File(Environment.getExternalStorageDirectory(),"/words1.txt"); Jul 27 10:17:27 bout = new BufferedWriter(new FileWriter(words)); Jul 27 10:17:27 Jul 27 10:17:27 if(words.createNewFile()){ Jul 27 10:17:28 //make one then Jul 27 10:17:30 Jul 27 10:17:32 Jul 27 10:17:34 Log.e("debug","its newly madee"); Jul 27 10:17:36 Jul 27 10:17:38 } Jul 27 10:17:44 no matter what words1.txt is, words.createNewFile never returns true Jul 27 10:19:13 have you ever seen a file with a "/" in its name Jul 27 10:19:24 yeah i added thatin to fix the problem Jul 27 10:19:29 same behavior without it Jul 27 10:19:59 anyway i can scan the emulators sdcard directly Jul 27 10:20:04 The / makes it an absolute path Jul 27 10:20:06 so i can take a look for the file and its contents Jul 27 10:20:27 Hey Guys - I have been trying to install ADT for eclipse, but I am stuck at accepting the license agreements.. I am using Eclipse Galileo.. I Have scrolled down all the agreements and checked I agree, with all of them. Jul 27 10:21:39 .. Jul 27 10:24:16 hellpo Jul 27 10:24:17 annyone Jul 27 10:26:56 you either need to use string concatenation instead or take out that "/" at the beginning of your filename. Jul 27 10:27:37 yeah ive taken it out Jul 27 10:27:40 but it still doesnt work Jul 27 10:27:45 it simply returns false everytime Jul 27 10:27:51 its bloody weird Jul 27 10:30:05 ExxKA: I don't think 3.5 is supported yet. You might have to go with 3.4 Jul 27 10:30:06 so it looks like its already made, however its not - as when i try to make a bufferedreader to read it Jul 27 10:30:23 it null pointers at readLine Jul 27 10:32:54 kRutOn: 3.5 works fine here :) Jul 27 10:35:00 on my emulaotr Jul 27 10:35:03 if i shut it down and reopen it Jul 27 10:35:15 should the new files still exist on the virtual sdcard Jul 27 10:36:47 how do i inspect the contents of the virtual sd card Jul 27 10:37:34 cd /sdcard ? Jul 27 10:37:55 em.... Jul 27 10:37:58 where is that path tho Jul 27 10:38:04 adb shell Jul 27 10:38:50 so io run adb shell Jul 27 10:38:57 then cd /sdcard Jul 27 10:39:15 ls -a Jul 27 10:39:35 how do i spit out the contents of my txt file within the shell Jul 27 10:40:18 cat filename? Jul 27 10:40:20 or copy it to the desktop or sumthing Jul 27 10:40:47 i dont understand cat Jul 27 10:41:12 i did cat words.txt , it did nothing, so presume the files empty Jul 27 10:41:17 it is Jul 27 10:41:25 cat /default.prop Jul 27 10:41:27 hmm right Jul 27 10:41:30 that's a text file and will show things Jul 27 10:41:51 ok right Jul 27 10:41:55 so thats my issue then Jul 27 10:42:05 my file is empty hence why readLine is failing and b.ready() is false Jul 27 10:43:53 ok so when i close my avd, if i reload it Jul 27 10:43:58 will the contents of the sdcard still be the same Jul 27 10:44:00 or does it reset it Jul 27 10:44:31 same Jul 27 10:44:51 as far as I know bufferedreader should return true if the file is empty Jul 27 10:45:06 sorry, BufferedReader.ready() Jul 27 10:45:13 hmmm Jul 27 10:45:17 but that might be the problem, fill it with something Jul 27 10:45:20 something odd is happening Jul 27 10:45:25 cat "ahahah" > yourfile Jul 27 10:45:27 i do some writes to the txt file right Jul 27 10:45:30 and it keeps them Jul 27 10:45:33 i close my app Jul 27 10:45:37 the file still has contents Jul 27 10:45:39 i close the emulator Jul 27 10:45:41 reload it Jul 27 10:45:44 the file is now empty Jul 27 10:45:49 ? Jul 27 10:46:28 empty before loading your app after emulator restarts? Jul 27 10:46:37 what? Jul 27 10:46:42 oh yes Jul 27 10:46:50 so it's not your app clearing the file on load Jul 27 10:47:40 dont think so, this is what happens onload http://pastebin.com/m2ac96be7 Jul 27 10:49:11 if(words.createNewFile()) ? Jul 27 10:49:26 if that returns true then a new file is ccreated Jul 27 10:49:27 ah if it doesn't exist :) Jul 27 10:49:31 ye Jul 27 10:52:40 while(b.ready()){ <-- should this not be an if Jul 27 10:52:58 emmm Jul 27 10:52:59 nope Jul 27 10:53:12 that wouldnt stop the file from then appearing empty tho would it Jul 27 10:53:33 no it wouldn't Jul 27 10:53:56 maybe its an emulator sdcard issue Jul 27 10:54:06 tho chances are its a problem in this snippet of code Jul 27 10:54:11 cos the file name still exists Jul 27 10:54:51 you said the file contents exist after closing your app, you are sure your app was closed (onDestroy())? Jul 27 10:56:11 if you are using a BufferedWriter then be sure to .close() it or the contents will disappear Jul 27 10:56:17 yeah Jul 27 10:56:26 i do that when somebody closes the app Jul 27 10:56:44 i dont know actually Jul 27 10:57:16 what should i try Jul 27 10:57:36 Log.d(LOG_TAG, "woo ondestroy"); Jul 27 10:58:12 ? I don't know if onDestroy is always called unless you're out of memory ... maybe I should look that up Jul 27 10:58:17 but onPause() always is Jul 27 10:58:56 if you've closed the bufferedwriter after your write operation then thats not the proble Jul 27 10:59:26 after i close the bufferedwriter Jul 27 10:59:28 how do i open it again Jul 27 10:59:30 for next write Jul 27 10:59:57 the same way you made it in the first place? Jul 27 11:00:02 hmm ye ok so Jul 27 11:00:05 this is the code Jul 27 11:00:10 ull get a better picture of whtas happening Jul 27 11:00:27 http://pastebin.com/m59a89d0c Jul 27 11:00:30 a button is pressed Jul 27 11:00:38 and takes the entered text and outputs it to the file Jul 27 11:02:44 why a file over a database? Jul 27 11:03:07 never done db stuff with android Jul 27 11:03:13 found it VERY confusing when i last looked Jul 27 11:03:21 if its that easy Jul 27 11:03:26 could you draw up what id need for a db here Jul 27 11:03:28 1 table Jul 27 11:03:29 thats it Jul 27 11:03:34 but i duno how Jul 27 11:03:39 even wit docks Jul 27 11:03:41 docs Jul 27 11:04:19 well read operations from a database are probably far faster than a file Jul 27 11:04:27 you would have to iterate etc if this is a dictionary Jul 27 11:05:09 the database *is* a file, but I'm sure sqlite can do it faster than you or I :D Jul 27 11:05:23 what are you storing in your file? Jul 27 11:05:52 words Jul 27 11:05:53 thats it Jul 27 11:05:55 each line is a word Jul 27 11:08:18 how were you planning on using the file later? Jul 27 11:10:39 reading it at start of app Jul 27 11:10:39 thats it Jul 27 11:10:46 its just a record of added files Jul 27 11:10:54 words sorry Jul 27 11:11:07 a database would probably be easier then Jul 27 11:11:16 probably Jul 27 11:11:19 can u help me convert then? Jul 27 11:11:26 yes Jul 27 11:11:30 since i avoided a db cos i couldnt work it out Jul 27 11:11:32 cheers buddy Jul 27 11:11:35 whats my first step Jul 27 11:11:49 you will need to create a class that extends SQLiteOpenHelper Jul 27 11:11:55 ok sec Jul 27 11:12:31 which should override onCreate() and onUpgrade() Jul 27 11:12:37 ok done Jul 27 11:14:19 you should also have a private final variable that is your database version number Jul 27 11:14:33 ok Jul 27 11:14:54 onCreate() is called when you try to access the database and it doesn't exist, it houses the SQL code to make your database Jul 27 11:15:45 look for ex. here http://developer.android.com/guide/tutorials/notepad/index.html Jul 27 11:16:42 ok Jul 27 11:16:43 right Jul 27 11:16:55 so within onCreate i need to execute some sql Jul 27 11:17:38 the tutorial explains how / what Jul 27 11:17:42 are you familiar with SQL? Jul 27 11:18:51 yeah i am Jul 27 11:18:53 so id do Jul 27 11:20:22 db.execSQL("CREATE TABLE table ("id""int","value""varchar(255)")"); Jul 27 11:20:28 but that wouldnt work cos of all the " Jul 27 11:21:16 I don't know whether or not you *must* have a primary key, but it's advisable so you don't get duplicate words Jul 27 11:21:38 ok Jul 27 11:21:39 soo... Jul 27 11:21:43 what should my line look like Jul 27 11:21:45 as an example Jul 27 11:22:05 CREATE TABLE words ( _id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY AUTOINCREMENT, word TEXT NOT NULL); Jul 27 11:22:07 or similar Jul 27 11:22:44 ok cool Jul 27 11:22:46 so thats now done Jul 27 11:22:54 so how do i instaniate this object Jul 27 11:23:01 and add values / query the db Jul 27 11:23:07 you're not done yet Jul 27 11:23:27 oh Jul 27 11:23:29 read the tutorial that was linked above Jul 27 11:23:37 i kinda did Jul 27 11:23:41 its not readable Jul 27 11:23:44 ive looked at it before Jul 27 11:25:08 perhaps this? http://www.devx.com/wireless/Article/40842 Jul 27 11:28:01 that seems to use a very different approach Jul 27 11:28:06 it for first doesnt extend anything Jul 27 11:28:09 looks easier though Jul 27 11:28:14 any advantage between methods? Jul 27 11:28:53 if you look it has a private class that extends sqliteopenhelper, which does what I've just talked about Jul 27 11:29:40 oh i c Jul 27 11:29:43 which is also what happens in that notepad tutorial Jul 27 11:29:43 and it just wraps around it Jul 27 11:29:49 gotcha Jul 27 11:29:51 cheers buddy Jul 27 11:29:55 im gona try port this to use a db then Jul 27 11:30:01 nows as good a time as any to learn how Jul 27 11:30:11 if i get stuck ill come back here! Jul 27 11:30:19 I don't doubt it :P Jul 27 11:33:17 hey ... is there any way to 'force show' the soft keyboard? Or any default input method ... Jul 27 11:41:23 this look good martin___ - http://pastebin.com/m38da035f Jul 27 11:41:47 http://twitter.com/tmobileofficial <-- tmo uk getting the htc magic / mytouch , naming it the g2 touch Jul 27 11:43:39 * ewon wonders about htc lancaster Jul 27 11:43:53 a g1 with more cpu / rams would be nice Jul 27 11:45:54 yes, apart from the naming conventions Jul 27 11:46:19 you're using a mix of ideas :) Jul 27 11:47:01 google's own android code usually has an "m" in front of all member variables, for instance mDB and mDBhelper whereas local variables inside a method (the parameters, or things you've made) don't Jul 27 11:47:21 personally I wouldn't start a variable with a capital letter (DBHelper) Jul 27 11:47:49 this is just pedantics and if you can understand your code it's probably ok, but it helps people who are helping you :) Jul 27 11:49:46 i c Jul 27 11:49:51 well thats from the tutorial Jul 27 12:01:29 tutorials aren't always perfect :D Jul 27 12:07:35 martin___ do i need to cal oncreate manually Jul 27 12:07:45 its complaining when i try to query that my table todesnt exist Jul 27 12:09:36 getWritableDatabase() will call onCreate() if it does not exist Jul 27 12:11:19 hmmm Jul 27 12:11:32 i wonder why this isnt working then Jul 27 12:11:36