**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 30 02:59:57 2009 Jul 30 03:00:21 Actually, I don't know anything about dev. I am just lurking here usually so all of your stuff is over my head. :) I am a lowly social worker. But I like to use geek stuff. Jul 30 03:00:54 well ok, that's fairly self-deprecating but whatever. Jul 30 03:01:09 haha. Jul 30 03:03:41 Well, I hate relying on Pandora, last.fm. I never use Shuffle. I am a control freak so it be cool to have my whole collection available via stream. Jul 30 04:09:33 Bonjour. Hello. What does android:layout_weight do actually ? Jul 30 04:26:34 I think weight makes it sink lower Jul 30 04:26:47 So like that view will be lower than others if it is heavier Jul 30 04:27:12 uh, what? Jul 30 04:27:24 isnt that what layout_weight does? Jul 30 04:27:30 not even close Jul 30 04:27:41 ok... Jul 30 04:27:52 just trying to help out because no one was answering :S Jul 30 04:30:04 layout_weight is used in LinearLayouts to assign "importance" to Views within the layout. All Views have a default layout_weight of zero, meaning they take up only as much room on the screen as they need to be displayed. Assigning a value higher than zero will split up the rest of the available space in the parent View, according to the value of each View's layout_weight and its ratio to the overall layout_weight specified in the c Jul 30 04:30:05 I did a bit a googling. It's how to divide up the space among several widgets. Jul 30 04:30:32 glad you found it :) Jul 30 04:30:45 Thank @mosquito. Jul 30 04:31:00 Not really I gave u false information at first :0 Jul 30 04:51:37 ok, gps problem that IMO *should* be simple :-P Jul 30 04:52:29 my activity doesn't want gps updates. It wants the location on startup, then again if the user taps a button. I can't seem to get that to work... later calls always return the same location as the first one. Jul 30 04:52:46 (even though I go on telnet and change the location with geo fix) Jul 30 04:56:43 I'm having problems setting a custom title. It's not taking over the whole of the old grey default title bar. http://bit.ly/zWSxD describes the same problem from the forums. Anybody have experience with this ? Jul 30 05:02:13 This is a screen capture of the titlebar with grey peeking out from underneath http://bit.ly/9O6Xd Jul 30 05:20:14 Hi Again Jasta Jul 30 05:33:15 Hello Jul 30 05:33:37 Community Jul 30 05:35:19 Need definitively your help Please :( Jul 30 05:35:58 I am trying to play a .3gp file after my up & runing android built from source Jul 30 05:36:29 I get in some errors when trying to set the file path in the ApiDemo for testing the media player with that file that i pushed on the sdcard as /sdcard/dancing.3gp Jul 30 05:36:52 Thanks for your help/ideas Jul 30 05:37:15 W/System.err( 3974): java.io.IOException: setDataSourceFD failed.: status=0x80000000 Jul 30 05:38:38 Basically setDataSource is making mad :0( Jul 30 05:38:55 HOW CAN I DEBUG MORE DEPPLY ? Jul 30 05:40:22 Do you have any idea Pls ?? Jul 30 06:10:18 romainguy: hmm im setting anyDensity="true" but my bitmaps are still ugly Jul 30 06:10:32 yep Jul 30 06:10:40 because your bitmaps are not in the right density Jul 30 06:10:46 put them in drawable-hdpi Jul 30 06:11:01 im Bitmap.createBitmap()'ing these ones Jul 30 06:11:22 temporarily for that hacked cache stuff Jul 30 06:11:34 then you're not assigning them the right density Jul 30 06:11:42 check out View.buildDrawingCache() Jul 30 06:11:46 we recently fixed that though Jul 30 06:11:51 should work with a Donut ToT Jul 30 06:12:06 doh, i havent synced my home tree in forever Jul 30 06:12:13 * jsharkey gitwebs Jul 30 06:12:31 at the speed at which we develop that's not a good idea ) Jul 30 06:12:51 ...it would help if we pushed more often Jul 30 06:12:59 my home tree is public git Jul 30 06:13:22 ah Jul 30 06:13:24 then it's not fixed Jul 30 06:13:26 also: wtf? :) Jul 30 06:13:45 i dont compile at home, only use it for reference Jul 30 06:16:20 hi, is the source code for the built-in Messaging app available? if yes, can you point me what package should I check? thanks Jul 30 06:16:27 well crap i cant do anything with the sdk >:/ Jul 30 06:16:49 mharkus: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/packages/apps/Mms.git;a=tree;h=refs/heads/cupcake;hb=cupcake Jul 30 06:17:41 thanks :) Jul 30 06:28:30 * ashitaka waves hello to jsharkey Jul 30 06:29:40 My custom title is not covering the grey title. http://bit.ly/9O6Xd What am I doing wrong ? Jul 30 07:29:45 hey sup all Jul 30 07:31:13 anyone here? id like to hear an experienced opinion abt how well my file scanner uses threads to run a service Jul 30 07:31:40 it'd be a tremendous help; i promised my boss i'd get it to him by today at 4:30p Jul 30 07:37:55 anyone? Jul 30 07:41:53 I think everyone's asleep Jul 30 07:43:48 are you suggesting no one of worth is awake? ;) Jul 30 07:44:18 hello everybody Jul 30 07:44:40 hey Jul 30 07:45:08 ludo, ashi; you guys familiar with threads and services? Jul 30 07:45:45 little, what do you do Jul 30 07:46:21 a file scanner where the scanning occurs on a new thread started by a service Jul 30 07:46:45 my design has three threads, and activity, and a service Jul 30 07:47:04 handlers to communicate interthread, and an aidl interface to communicate between activity and service Jul 30 07:47:21 ok and what is the problem Jul 30 07:48:19 wanna see foremost if it'll work, and next whether it's wasteful Jul 30 07:49:09 The activity spawns a new thread, which spawns a new service. the thread's there to loop and check for new progress updates to update the progress bar view Jul 30 07:50:05 All I know is that threads running in a spin loop will consume more battery Jul 30 07:50:07 the service.oncreate() creates a new thread A in turn creates a new thread B. A is a looper which checks if B updated the Handler to change the progress. B does the "bulk" of the filescanning Jul 30 07:50:29 thanks ash Jul 30 07:50:40 right now tho im trying to push out a prototype Jul 30 07:50:51 f all the battery optimizations Jul 30 07:51:23 Are you sure that file scanning must be permanent? Jul 30 07:52:02 hmm Jul 30 07:52:06 i'm not familiar with the permanent part Jul 30 07:52:17 where does permanent come into my design? Jul 30 07:52:21 is it the service? Jul 30 07:52:21 Are you see on source code how mediaprovider scan sdcard to keep music library away, it's best practice Jul 30 07:53:06 is it android source or apidemos Jul 30 07:53:41 src Jul 30 07:54:28 cool i'l get it thanks Jul 30 07:54:33 check with git and go to packages/apps/musics Jul 30 07:55:03 it's music player application Jul 30 07:55:53 i saw it in past and I saw scan method (in my remember) Jul 30 07:56:18 source always is best practices ;-) Jul 30 07:56:23 ahha thanks Jul 30 07:56:31 hey in a service, where does the bulk of the code usually go? Jul 30 07:56:34 in onCreate()? Jul 30 07:56:38 surely not. Jul 30 07:56:47 * _Auron_ can't wait to finish his game Jul 30 07:58:00 It's depend to the type of service, it's on OnBind and OnStart (Oncreate is for init as an Activity) Jul 30 07:58:42 montooner good luck I return to my works Jul 30 07:58:53 mkay thanks a bunch ludovic Jul 30 08:05:02 hmm.. anyone know how to customize the list element when the mode is single choice and custom layout is being used? Jul 30 08:19:19 (basically I'd like to make the text bold when the listview item is selected) anyone? Jul 30 10:06:19 roosmaa: you can customize the listitem view's with a custom adapter Jul 30 10:06:38 check out listview's setadapter method and baseadapter class Jul 30 10:07:46 so basically you can simply extend a baseadapter which maps your data to listview and also have your own views represent the items in the listview Jul 30 10:22:25 hi anyone about? Jul 30 10:23:01 madis: thanks, will keep it in mind:) Jul 30 10:42:36 * ashitaka waves to jomtones Jul 30 11:12:20 I've made a custom view, and want to inflate it from XML, so in my constructor I do: attrs.getAttributeResourceValue("android", "src", 0) to get the src attribute value from android:src="@drawable/something" Jul 30 11:12:34 is that correct? or am I doing this all wrong? :) Jul 30 11:13:05 I seem to be getting 0 back, even though the resource exists.. Jul 30 11:40:48 hi all, can anyone help me to call up preference manually ? Jul 30 11:41:14 rather than using onclick Jul 30 12:12:58 humm, johnnyzen, what do you mean? Jul 30 12:13:43 madis: hi, I am looking to launch a EditTextPreference manually rather than a onclick. Jul 30 12:14:14 when I mean manually, i mean to say, without using setOnPreferenceClickListener Jul 30 12:14:20 ah, ok Jul 30 12:14:29 you mean the dialog that pops up? Jul 30 12:14:39 yeah, I need the dialog to popup Jul 30 12:15:41 getting a bit confused, not sure if I need to use SharedPreferences or if I can use findPreference ? Jul 30 12:15:59 then something like showDialog ? Jul 30 12:17:12 hmm Jul 30 12:17:17 found this: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/preference/DialogPreference.html#showDialog%28android.os.Bundle%29 Jul 30 12:17:18 there actually is a showdialog Jul 30 12:17:23 indeed Jul 30 12:17:27 but it's protected :) Jul 30 12:17:30 but not sure how to use Jul 30 12:18:38 can't you fake it though? Jul 30 12:21:06 i.e. a performClick or something? Jul 30 12:22:12 ah ok, its private as well Jul 30 12:22:36 anyhoo, why do you wan't to do it? Jul 30 12:22:43 shouldn't you use a regular dialog instead? Jul 30 12:24:23 well was needing it to pop up if another pref is enabled. but I think I will think again about the logic. maybe to disable pref. unless EditTextPreference is not null ? Jul 30 12:28:04 basically I have a "Use a Pin Number" checkbox, if clicked and pin number not set, need to popup SetPinNumber EditTextPreference Jul 30 12:28:22 but maybe my logic is not so good here. Jul 30 12:28:56 Could just pop up a warning dialog saying it's not set? Jul 30 12:29:43 don't let them move to the next activity / do something else until it's !setPinNumber.getText().equals("") Jul 30 12:30:19 (I missed the start of this conversation so that may not be the right answer) Jul 30 12:33:22 martin: yes this could be a better option. My original thought was I could popup the "setPin" dialog if no pin set. Jul 30 12:33:40 but couldnt work out how to manually popup a pref. Jul 30 12:34:44 you would be able to check the contents of the preference in your SharedPreference (assuming they have the persistent element set to true) in the onPause() method of the preferenceactivity Jul 30 12:34:49 I think that pop-ups just aren't cool :) Jul 30 12:34:53 but consider; a pop-up asking to fill in a field when you're trying to exit would get annoying if you couldn't exit the activity without entering some data first... what if somebody got bored and wanted to exit Jul 30 12:34:58 nor is limiting the user into an activity Jul 30 12:35:21 if it were me I would be checking the contents when you actually use it, and if it doesn't exist, prompt the user to go fill it in (and open the preference activity for them) Jul 30 12:35:27 most sensible would be to check for both usepinnumber and pinnumber in the code where you actually use it Jul 30 12:35:34 :) Jul 30 12:36:33 <_Auron_> ....... uh, android market is *BROKEN* Jul 30 12:36:45 oh ? Jul 30 12:36:50 martin: yes I want to open the preference manually. do you know how to do this ? Jul 30 12:37:00 <_Auron_> not the app market but the android market that I, as a dev, need to login to Jul 30 12:37:14 I mean open the entire Activity, your entire settings thing Jul 30 12:37:19 <_Auron_> it keeps taking me to http://market.android.com/publish/signup Jul 30 12:37:33 then when they press back it will just take you to the Activity where you were trying to use it Jul 30 12:37:35 <_Auron_> I've already paid the dev fee (I paid on may 21st), and it won't let me use my own name because it says it's already taken Jul 30 12:38:15 martin: a ha, ok Jul 30 12:38:54 i think I will just disable the "use pin number" checkbox until the pin number is set. Jul 30 12:39:23 then no need for popups. what you reckon ? Jul 30 12:39:37 I would prefer to do like madis said above, check when you actually use it Jul 30 12:39:54 but you can do if your way by setting an OnPreferenceChangeListener to the EditText Jul 30 12:40:31 but be sure to make sure that it's enabled when the preferenceactivity loads if the EditText isn't empty (as you'll probably be setting it to disabled in the layout xml file) Jul 30 12:41:18 i.e. if the user returns to the PreferenceActivity and doesn't change the EditText's preference, the listener won't trigger and the checkbox won't be enabled Jul 30 12:43:23 is the market registration a one time fee? Jul 30 12:51:38 _Auron_: Try going to http://market.android.com/publish/Home Jul 30 12:52:41 _Auron_: If that doesn't work, make sure you're logged in with the Google Account that you paid the fee with. Jul 30 12:55:37 martin: yes one time fee Jul 30 12:57:17 <_Auron_> kroot: yeah I found out it was because I had registered with my alternate email Jul 30 12:57:22 <_Auron_> was about to go nuts :O Jul 30 12:57:54 <_Auron_> unless I hit a huge snag, my game will be published on saturday Jul 30 12:58:10 <_Auron_> and starting next week I'll begin on my next game Jul 30 12:58:19 Auron: cool, what sort of game is it ? Jul 30 12:59:16 <_Auron_> johnnyzen: action game sorta like Asteroids, with constant flurry of enemies on the screen. includes highscore list, gameplay stats, achievements, enemy gallery, and full sfx/music. everything is completely written from scratch, and I don't use the android UI at all for my menus Jul 30 12:59:53 an online high score list? Jul 30 13:00:13 I have a great idea for a game, but dont have the skills yet to do it. Jul 30 13:00:24 omg any ops around? Jul 30 13:00:35 why? Jul 30 13:00:55 this guy in #android is posting an entire sextext Jul 30 13:01:32 whats a sextext ? Jul 30 13:01:46 "did you mean: setText" ;) Jul 30 13:01:55 <_Auron_> heh Jul 30 13:01:56 lol Jul 30 13:02:03 nevermind, he just got K-Lined Jul 30 13:02:20 <_Auron_> martin___: not doing anything regarding online right now; I'd need a server to host the scores, and a way to prevent people from sending fake scores. don't want to deal with that (yet) Jul 30 13:02:56 <_Auron_> DJTachyon: yeah I requested help in #freenode and they were prompt, heh Jul 30 13:03:15 _Auron_, yes, I was going to say something to that effect :) Also you'd need to anticipate traffic volumes Jul 30 13:03:31 <_Auron_> indeed Jul 30 13:03:57 <_Auron_> but I'm going to start on my next game project as soon as next week, using the game engine I've developed. Jul 30 13:04:18 infact, what was that scoreboard app that let you save scores online? perhaps your game could use that and not need to worry about it :) Jul 30 13:04:29 I thought I read they have an API Jul 30 13:04:45 <_Auron_> well, perhaps in a future update, but not concerned right now. Jul 30 13:04:50 sure :) Jul 30 13:05:25 <_Auron_> I'm definitely not saying no, I do think it's a great idea. People love competition, especially if it's global. But I'd rather have a finished game that's released with feedback on the game itself first. Jul 30 13:05:34 so the JetPlayer is a midi interface? Jul 30 13:05:44 indeed, I would take the same approach Jul 30 13:08:56 <_Auron_> video I made from a few weeks ago (before I added in the menu and various other things) of Stroids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkEfztqx8Is Jul 30 13:09:06 <_Auron_> I should make a new one in the next few days. Jul 30 13:15:24 would anyone happen to know what intent (if any) is broadcast when a clam-shell style device gets flipped open? might even be like the g1 keyboard sliding out? Jul 30 13:16:53 _Auron_: What are the lines on the display? Jul 30 13:17:24 <_Auron_> kroot: a grid effect caused by the raidal gradiant objects of the background special effect Jul 30 13:17:29 <_Auron_> radial* Jul 30 13:18:22 <_Auron_> accidental effect that I decided to keep in. the bg effect (the white plasma effect when bullets pass over the screen) is an option that can be disabled in my options->graphics menu though Jul 30 13:19:22 <_Auron_> in the video the recording is really saturated so you can barely tell that there's bullets being fired. this is what it actually looks like: http://a.imagehost.org/0589/stroids_gameplay.png Jul 30 13:20:26 I take my openGL course next semester, so I will be interested to figure out how some of these things are done :) Jul 30 13:21:07 <_Auron_> once you wrap your mind around it, you'll find openGL is rather simple. the hard part is doing 3d math, vectors, shaders (if applicable/capable), etc Jul 30 13:21:32 hard part? you obviously meant fun part ;D Jul 30 13:21:38 <_Auron_> :P Jul 30 13:22:33 <_Auron_> the game engine I've developed simplified the use of my drawing and handling sprites/textures. a single call loads a texture and stores certain data for it. a different call sets UV data to the texture with the parameters set for a sprite, and a third call can draw that sprite. Jul 30 13:24:13 well, the logical side of things I doubt I'll have much trouble with once I understand how openGL works... it's the optimisations for android that I forsee sturggling with :D Jul 30 13:24:49 not that I have any particular idea in mind, but with the mindset "because I can" I shall strive to continue learning :D Jul 30 13:39:32 _Auron_ one suggestion from looking at the video, power ups? (+1 life, 10 seconds wider diameter plasma, things like that) Jul 30 13:39:54 with +1 life at perhaps 10k points Jul 30 13:40:33 ofcourse I'm not trying to delay your second project, mind Jul 30 13:41:49 <_Auron_> the plasma is not the actual bullets, it's just an special effect Jul 30 13:42:10 ah ok, wider spread bullets then :) Jul 30 13:43:33 <_Auron_> as for powerups I have a clock and a bomb planned (probably going to make them today, actually). the clock 'stops time', freezing all enemies for a few seconds. the bomb either explodes and creates a bunch of enemies, or if the player shoots it and destroys it, it explodes and creates a radial burst of bullets Jul 30 13:44:20 cool :) there are many possibilities, how about something that teleports you to a random location Jul 30 13:44:30 <_Auron_> and currently lifeups are given at 25k, 50k, and every 50k Jul 30 13:44:37 or, a bomb that implodes and sucks enemies in Jul 30 13:44:57 <_Auron_> a bomb that implodes and sucks enemies in would be somewhat of a ripoff from Geometry Wars, which is a large inspiration for Stroids Jul 30 13:45:12 ah, I have never played it Jul 30 13:45:50 hey guys ! Jul 30 13:46:08 <_Auron_> Geometry Wars, a really popular xbox live arcade game, has a black hole 'enemy' that, when hit, activates and starts pulling in enemies. its gravity grows as it gets bigger, and sucking in enemies makes it bigger. once it gets big enough it explodes and creates a ton of tiny enemies that fly directly at the player Jul 30 13:46:39 does android use the standard java sdk besides the android sdk ? i mean isnt it limited like java ME for example ? Jul 30 14:02:51 I need a bit of help to the soundpool and memory usage.. I load one mp3 file: sound.mp3 in my onCreate method. I have made two buttons, "play" and "stop" They more or less do as expected. Play, is set to play the sound in an infinite loop. Stop change the setLoop attribute to 0, so the sound will play to the end and then stop. But when I press the Play again I get a "not enough memory for AudioTrack " error in my log. Any ideas what I do wrong? Jul 30 14:04:14 do you need to reset() and prepare() the file? Jul 30 14:04:27 (I don't know, I just remember reading it here: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/media/index.html ) Jul 30 14:06:37 okay interesting.. I will take a look but I kind of expected it wasn't necessary due to the name soundpool.. :) Jul 30 14:08:47 <_Auron_> er. take a look at this: http://osdir.com/ml/AndroidDevelopers/2009-06/msg03382.html Jul 30 14:09:28 <_Auron_> you're probably using too large of sounds. if you're trying to play a song, you don't want to use soundpool, you want to use mediaplayer. soundpool is meant for short sounds (sound effects) only Jul 30 14:09:36 <_Auron_> sorry, should have mentioned that earlier Jul 30 14:11:02 I see, this might start to make sense Jul 30 14:16:11 <_Auron_> basically the pool is meant for kids, not the fat man that sings. Jul 30 14:20:17 COME ON , NO COMMENTS ON MY ISSUE Jul 30 14:20:26 Thanks for the mental picture, it will be hard to forget that :) Jul 30 14:20:42 HELP OR SUGGESTION OR WHATEVER PLS ... Jul 30 14:22:10 <_Auron_> drac2000: ... ? Jul 30 14:22:40 _Auron Thanks Jul 30 14:22:49 Can you help please Jul 30 14:23:16 <_Auron_> with what? Jul 30 14:23:25 I haven't noticed a question in the two hours I've been here Jul 30 14:23:30 <_Auron_> Nor I. Jul 30 14:23:38 I have issue with the setDataSource when play video on ApiDemos Jul 30 14:23:52 I can send you the ioexception thrown Jul 30 14:25:21 <_Auron_> er, don't dcc chat me Jul 30 14:25:40 <_Auron_> unfortunately that's not something I know anything about, haven't messed with video Jul 30 14:25:55 Ok _Auroon Jul 30 14:26:11 <_Auron_> if you need to show a list of information though you can use pastebin.com or something similar and give a link to that, maybe someone else could help Jul 30 14:26:11 Thanks for your sconcern anyway Jul 30 14:26:15 drac2000: we're not paid to help you. don't get pissed off if no one does. Jul 30 14:26:44 <_Auron_> also you can try the android-developers google group and ask on there. may take a day or two but there's a lot of people that help on there Jul 30 14:26:47 if you have info you need to share, use a pastebin, not dcc send Jul 30 14:26:52 lov I know that, I appologize ... Jul 30 14:26:56 and just paste the url of the pastie in here Jul 30 14:27:12 I am also new to IRC channel Jul 30 14:27:16 So pls forgive me Jul 30 14:27:30 you might want to use /msg to talk to people privately, except that you really ought not do so w/o asking them Jul 30 14:27:47 it's kind of a faux pas to send people private messages out of the blue, and prevents other people from helping you as well because they can't see what you're writing Jul 30 14:28:13 faux pas, are you french speaking ? Jul 30 14:28:49 it's an english phrase too. Jul 30 14:29:13 So my english is really bad :-) Jul 30 14:30:13 move out of quebec Jul 30 14:31:33 No thanks I really like it Qc forever :-) Jul 30 14:32:48 I am trying to play a .3gp file after my up & runing android built from source Jul 30 14:34:22 http://pastebin.com/m53788952 Jul 30 14:35:23 drac2000: does your code work on a stock build? Jul 30 14:35:53 stock build you means prebuilt images? Jul 30 14:36:02 Doesn't work neither Jul 30 14:36:26 is it possible to have a call-like connection between two remote phones and send and receive data ? i mean, for example to make a game with two players in two different cities ? Jul 30 14:36:54 bulnana: SMS :D Jul 30 14:36:57 seriously though, yes, it is Jul 30 14:37:13 previously you were supposed to do it with google talk as the transport layer Jul 30 14:37:26 the problem i am facing to is that setDataSource api is failing complaining about the IOException while my file exists and is valid Jul 30 14:37:30 but I think if you can just use tcp/ip to get your info to each other that might work. Haven't investigated it on cell networks, though Jul 30 14:37:41 http://stevehanov.ca/blog/index.php?id=79 Jul 30 14:37:51 drac2000: you might want to poke into the android source to see what status 0x80000000 is Jul 30 14:38:15 I checked lov: Jul 30 14:38:17 it's probably in the c code part Jul 30 14:38:24 exactly there Jul 30 14:38:35 cause it uses native call to the setDataSource Jul 30 14:38:51 yes. Jul 30 14:38:59 the strange issue is that all audio files works just fine Jul 30 14:39:07 on my sdcard Jul 30 14:39:20 as .ogg for example Jul 30 14:39:45 yes, I'm sure it does. Jul 30 14:40:01 do you know which file this is in offhand? Jul 30 14:40:31 sorry lov: ?I didn't get your last point ?? Jul 30 14:40:54 which c file is status 0x80000000 error message sent Jul 30 14:41:41 Ah yes give me 30 sec Jul 30 14:43:43 actually, looking at the log a little closer, it seems to be trying to use ogg vorbis to open this. Jul 30 14:43:55 can you pastebin the code that you're using to try and play this file? Jul 30 14:46:40 lov : thanks Jul 30 14:46:53 i will post it right now Jul 30 14:47:21 for your question before : the c++ file is in the /frameworks/base/media/jni/android_media_MediaPlayer.cpp Jul 30 14:50:54 lov: here is the link Jul 30 14:51:02 http://pastebin.com/m6cd4bda8 Jul 30 14:51:29 Why is Toast and .makeText on seperate lines? :X Jul 30 14:51:48 also, not sure that's a valid path you're using for video Jul 30 14:52:03 you might also just be missing : Jul 30 14:52:15 you have sdcard//dancing.3gp, maybe you meant sdcard://dancing.3gp Jul 30 14:52:27 I tried all of them just to see Jul 30 14:52:35 hello. can someone send to me apppack.apk . I cant download it from the market... :( Jul 30 14:52:38 initially used /sdcard/dancing.3gp Jul 30 14:52:57 for the lines it was just my eclipse formatting sorry Jul 30 14:53:54 you can see my debugging code Jul 30 14:54:04 sysout just tosee if the file is there and is OK Jul 30 14:54:12 around line 109 Jul 30 14:54:15 thread question: what's the difference between starting a background thread to do some work or starting an async task? Jul 30 14:55:28 whaledawg: asynctask is a tool to make starting andusing those threads in the android context _much_ easier. Jul 30 14:55:40 in other words, much less error prone and requiring much less understanding of how threading works. Jul 30 14:55:47 it's also just damn convenient. Jul 30 14:56:03 lov: would you like to get my dancing.3gp file also ? Jul 30 14:56:08 Hi jasta Jul 30 14:57:14 thread question 2: If I use the post method on a runnable from the view, that will run in the UI thread, correct? Why would I want to do that instead of a background thread? Jul 30 14:59:15 you can't update views from any thread but the UI thread Jul 30 15:00:39 KNY is right, however there are other reasons you could want to run things on the UI thread. Jul 30 15:00:49 but won't that block the ui thread if it does something intensive? Jul 30 15:01:09 yes, but that's why you do the work in a separate thread and just post the results :) Jul 30 15:02:12 I don't understand the option, it seems like either you want a background thread or you would just make it a part of the program Jul 30 15:02:22 sharing the ui thread seems pointless Jul 30 15:02:43 drac2000: Did you try sdcard://dancing.3gp instead of sdcard//dancing.3gp? What format did you use for oggs? Jul 30 15:03:09 You realize that you can get a file reference to the sdcard, correct? You don't have to use a uri Jul 30 15:03:23 you can use sdcard:// as a URI? neat Jul 30 15:04:11 KNY: I don't really know. Drac is, but he's having issues :P Jul 30 15:04:19 drac2000: Environment.getExternalStorageDirectory() Jul 30 15:04:24 that will return the sdcard as a File Jul 30 15:05:53 lov: thanks means I nedd to do Environment.getExternalStorageDirectory() + "/dancing.3go" ? Jul 30 15:06:22 File myFile = new File(Environment.getStorageDirectory(), "dancing.3gp"); problably Jul 30 15:06:34 Please look at the javadocs for File before you complain something isn't working Jul 30 15:06:48 ok i will give it try right now Jul 30 15:06:55 thanks a lot Jul 30 15:58:31 how can i mount the internal flash of an galaxy? after usb plugin, ther will be only the sd-card visible Jul 30 16:01:19 you kind of don't. Jul 30 16:01:42 you should only be able to mount external memory, not internal, unless the galaxy has some custom firmware that lets youdo that Jul 30 16:01:48 you can always use adb to browse the internals Jul 30 16:04:27 the software on the phone, can it choose the place for writing data, or is it everytime the sd-card for dataspace? (sry for my bad english) Jul 30 16:05:56 yes, the software can choose where to place its data Jul 30 16:19:51 hey, is there a way to add more "desktops" to the phone? Jul 30 16:20:06 whaledawg: there are some aftermarket home apps Jul 30 16:20:45 whaledawg: yes, but only by using/making a custom launcher app - the default launcher is locked to 3 Jul 30 16:22:07 lov: I just setup correctly with Environment.getExternalStorageDirectory() as in http://pastebin.com/d240f4c4 Jul 30 16:22:38 still the same exception IOException Jul 30 16:26:46 s Jul 30 16:29:53 From within an :singleInstance Activity, I want to pick a Contact. However if I invoke startActivityForResult, the callback shows that it is cancelled immediately. Why? Jul 30 16:32:46 Are there any column naming conventions for databases? Jul 30 17:08:59 is "/sdcard" the sd-card, or the whole flash? because. _in_ /sdcard exist a dir with ne name sd, which i can mount on pc Jul 30 17:09:31 /sdcard is the sd-card Jul 30 17:10:47 when i mount /dev/sdb, i see only the content of /sdcard/sd and not /sdcard. Jul 30 17:15:54 hi all, anyone used addPreferencesFromResource with a "CustomDialogPref extends DialogPreference" ? I am having trouble Jul 30 17:16:13 it seems so that /sdcard is the card. but i can't acces to /sdcard, only /sdcard/sd Jul 30 17:16:58 johnnyzen, start with pastebin Jul 30 17:18:36 http://pastebin.com/m5ae76f56 - can anyone help with adding a custom dialogpreference ? Jul 30 17:20:44 but am unsure if I can add a custom pref to a pref hieracy created by addPreferencesFromResource Jul 30 17:21:16 hi KNY :) Jul 30 17:25:21 Is there a listener to listen for when a preference is saved ? Jul 30 17:31:47 why do you want to listen for when a preference is saved? Jul 30 17:36:28 whaledawg: hi, I want to listen for a saved preference to enable another prefernce if dialog pref is set Jul 30 17:37:33 romainguy: ping Jul 30 17:37:35 Basically I have two pref. - togglepin (checkbox) and setpin (EditTextPreference) - I want togglepin to be disabled until the user has chosen a pin Jul 30 17:38:14 and then enabled automatically after user clicks OK button on EditTextPreference Jul 30 17:38:57 OnPreferenceChangeListener - is the closest I can get, but this is triggered just before pref. is saved, so no good Jul 30 17:40:48 so my next angle is to create a custom dialogpref, where I can manage the OK button, but dont know how to add to Preference Screen where hieracy was created by XML Jul 30 17:41:42 *hierarchy Jul 30 17:41:58 johnnyzen: look at how the keyguard prefs ui works Jul 30 17:42:16 it's similar -- enable/disable checkbox isn't usable until a pattern has been set, etc. Jul 30 17:43:05 ah cool :) dont use the keyguard, so wouldnt have thought of that :) Jul 30 17:43:06 ctate: do you know what changed in frameworks/base/services/java/com/android/server/PackageManagerService.java per chance? Jul 30 17:43:44 the fix that I did for it doesn't 100% work like it did when I tested it on cupcake Jul 30 17:47:56 herriojr: you can't diff the cupcake vs donut versions? Jul 30 17:48:06 the Package Manager has gyrated a *lot* in donut Jul 30 17:48:36 ctate: I'd have to checkout another repo branch to diff, so I was asking really quick before I had to do that Jul 30 17:49:32 essentially, it now requires a reboot if a package with a shared user id is deleted, so that the other packages don't have their permissions removed (in memory, the permissions still exist in the xml, however) Jul 30 17:49:43 do you have donut checked out? do a git log on it Jul 30 17:49:49 yeah, ok Jul 30 17:49:50 use the source, Luke! Jul 30 17:50:25 I have the source, it's just the git/repo commands I get confused with more often ;) Jul 30 17:50:25 [more seriously: i myself haven't done the work on it, so i'd just be doing the same thing to find out what all changed. it's been through a lot for donut, though.] Jul 30 17:50:48 i hear ya Jul 30 17:50:52 and donut is what is in master at the moment Jul 30 17:50:58 yes Jul 30 17:50:59 just to verify Jul 30 17:51:00 ok Jul 30 17:51:10 well, at least mostly; i'm hazy on what exactly jbq has done so far Jul 30 17:51:17 but i think that's right Jul 30 17:51:33 * jbq sees his name, scrolls back Jul 30 17:51:51 these aren't the Androids you're looking for. Jul 30 17:52:09 to diff cupcake and donut: git diff korg/cupcake korg/donut Jul 30 17:52:49 oh yeah, in git, you have all of the variants present on your machine anyway, technically Jul 30 17:53:09 git log is useless in frameworks/base in donut as we (Google) haven't published the detailed change history, all you have is a huge sticky blob. Jul 30 17:53:15 oh doink Jul 30 17:53:26 where i can found tutorials about creating layouts ( user interface ) Jul 30 17:53:26 will we, or is that a case of "mess happened"? Jul 30 17:53:35 we will fix it. Jul 30 17:53:41 jbq: ok, cool, thanks, I'll diff them and see what has changed in PackageMangerService.java Jul 30 17:53:43 Petry_361: http://developer.android.com/ and the Dev Guide Jul 30 17:53:57 no other places? Jul 30 17:54:00 herriojr: you can make gif diff work on a single file instead of diffing the entire world. Jul 30 17:54:16 does onscroll not get called until your finger leaves the screen? Jul 30 17:55:31 ctate: the situation is that we have a change in our internal history that contains confidential information about an unannounced device. Once that device is announced, we can publish our detailed history. Jul 30 17:55:33 jbq: yeah, I was trying to do that, but it says path can't be found Jul 30 17:55:35 I don't think you can fix it, to be honest. Unless by fix you mean "future stuff will be better" Jul 30 17:55:54 jbq: I'm trying korg/cupcake/frameworks/base/services/java/com/android/server/PackageManagerService.java Jul 30 17:55:55 herriojr: do git branch -r Jul 30 17:56:02 herriojr: oh, that's wrong Jul 30 17:56:11 kroot: I'm just trying to diff them Jul 30 17:56:15 git korg/cupcake korg/donut -- services/java/com/android/server/PackageManagerService.java Jul 30 17:56:20 in the frameworks/base dir Jul 30 17:56:23 kroot: thx Jul 30 17:56:36 git diff I mean Jul 30 17:56:46 ==kroot Jul 30 17:56:59 iff kroot==jbq then explode Jul 30 17:57:25 kroot: that's an '"if" not an "iff" Jul 30 17:57:27 but yes :) Jul 30 17:57:40 ctate: PackageManagerService didn't seem to actually change all that much Jul 30 17:57:43 no, I'll never explode otherwise Jul 30 17:58:21 I imagine there are several other classes in orbit around the PackageManagerService that have changed Jul 30 17:58:43 jbq: have the PackageManagerService changes been committed to master for donut yet? Jul 30 17:58:53 herriojr: lots of individual changes i see in the log, but i guess the overall state of the file hasn't been altered that much Jul 30 17:59:12 hmm, I need to figure out what's going on and fix it Jul 30 17:59:21 master is up-to-date, i.e. everything that we contributed by Google to donut was merged into master. Jul 30 17:59:32 jqb: ok thanks, I was just checking Jul 30 17:59:39 (except in opencore, which is a special case) Jul 30 18:00:33 jbq: who exactly works on the code related to package permissions? Jul 30 18:01:10 ctate will correct me, but I think it's usually Suchi, Dianne, and ctate. Jul 30 18:01:16 Yes. Jul 30 18:01:35 Mostly suchi in the donut timeframe. Jul 30 18:01:41 ok Jul 30 18:02:06 since this is a big issue for me, I want to make sure it gets fixed before donut is pushed to devices Jul 30 18:02:24 (of course, if we had published the detailed history, you could get that from git blame, but [censored]) Jul 30 18:02:46 herriojr: this is the shared-uid / uninstall / permissions issue? Jul 30 18:03:20 ctate: well, when I submitted the patch to cupcake it worked fine, but in donut it requires a device reboot to pick up the proper permissions Jul 30 18:03:29 ctate: and yes to your question Jul 30 18:03:43 herriojr: the bug is still present in the version of donut that has been pushed? Jul 30 18:03:57 [remember that what's in external is rather behind what we have internally] Jul 30 18:04:05 the one that I checked out from master branch Jul 30 18:04:07 jbq: ln -s git-blame git-praise Jul 30 18:04:19 kroot: lol Jul 30 18:04:38 ctate: external donut is DRC08 if you need a point of reference. Jul 30 18:04:45 ok Jul 30 18:04:56 not as old as i'd feared, yay Jul 30 18:05:08 yeah, I'm repo sync with master Jul 30 18:05:35 ctate: so internally is this fixed in donut? Jul 30 18:05:49 i know we consider this to be a major bug we have to fix Jul 30 18:05:57 i haven't been doing the work so i'm not sure when it got fixed Jul 30 18:06:17 ctate: ok, well, I'll research it and post another fix for it Jul 30 18:06:33 my original fix got into donut, which is why it is only partially broken Jul 30 18:06:46 but as I said, it requires a reboot now Jul 30 18:06:57