**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Aug 08 02:59:57 2009
Aug 08 04:04:46 <frez> doesn't sharedpreferences get shared between activites?
Aug 08 04:20:12 <zhobbs_> frez: yes
Aug 08 04:34:24 <jasta> frez: sharedpreferences is a file-backed object...
Aug 08 04:35:13 <muthu> looks like network is the preferred way to store data in android
Aug 08 04:35:39 <elprespufferfish> ?
Aug 08 04:48:45 <frez> it doesn't get shared it seems
Aug 08 04:49:10 <frez> not here anyways
Aug 08 04:52:12 <frez> I tried prefs = getPreferences(0) in my other activity and it didn't look like it got shared
Aug 08 04:53:21 <frez> oh nevermind
Aug 08 05:40:35 <perihare> hi, i'm trying to develop an app that uses the camera's preview callback
Aug 08 05:41:35 <perihare> but whenever i try to read from the byte[] array in the callback
Aug 08 05:41:59 <perihare> the VM starts throwing out of memory errors all over the place
Aug 08 05:42:23 <perihare> and on top of that, the camera then refuses to stop sending frames, so i have to reboot the device before continuing to debug
Aug 08 06:03:00 <jasta> perihare: hmm, can you show us some relevant code?
Aug 08 06:03:14 <jasta> curious if you are not actually allocating more objects (copying the byte[] array perhaps?)_
Aug 08 06:03:23 <jasta> i havent worked with the camera personally though
Aug 08 06:07:27 <perihare> well, i actually thought i might be holding the byte[] array for too long
Aug 08 06:07:46 <perihare> so i tried cloning it and passing it off to another thread first, but it didn't really help
Aug 08 06:08:06 <perihare> hold on
Aug 08 06:12:47 <perihare> http://hareit.com/android/
Aug 08 06:13:12 <perihare> so i have my activity Test that feeds preview frames to a Meter
Aug 08 06:13:49 <perihare> Test has the camera preview view code from the android SDK in it, adds that to its content view
Aug 08 06:14:07 <perihare> and has a textview overlayed on the preview for showing the meter readout
Aug 08 06:14:40 <perihare> anyway, i want to process the live preview from the camera using the preview callback
Aug 08 06:14:59 <perihare> i'm able to add an empty callback fine, or one that just prints a line and leaves
Aug 08 06:15:25 <perihare> but as soon as i touch the byte[] array the VM freaks out and says i'm out of memory
Aug 08 06:15:51 <perihare> so maybe i'm holding reference to it somehow, but i don't think i am
Aug 08 06:21:56 <perihare> working with a raw buffer in java is weird anyway, and i found this bug report that backs that up
Aug 08 06:21:59 <perihare> http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2794
Aug 08 06:22:15 <perihare> but i must be doing it wrong because barcode scanner etc. can do this
Aug 08 07:14:33 <SinnerG> okay I'm awake
Aug 08 07:14:41 <SinnerG> time to restart my 2d engine (again)
Aug 08 07:14:47 <SinnerG> but this time I aim for efficiency :P
Aug 08 07:14:51 <SinnerG> reuse objects etc
Aug 08 07:15:06 <SinnerG> and btw: I love my magic :P
Aug 08 07:15:21 <SinnerG> monday I'll have mobile internet, currently its only wifi @ home
Aug 08 07:28:26 <jasta> yay, my sapphire came back to life!
Aug 08 07:28:34 <jasta> proof that androids actually like to swim!
Aug 08 07:29:59 <SinnerG> lol!
Aug 08 07:30:17 <SinnerG> may I suggest, as a friend, to not attempt that again? :P
Aug 08 07:33:59 <_Auron|G1_> heh
Aug 08 08:03:45 <GodLike> hey can any1 tell me about c++ on android?...how does it compare
Aug 08 08:06:46 <SinnerG> google for box2d and NDK
Aug 08 08:07:26 <SinnerG> someone ported it to ndk, it was alot faster compared to jbox2d BUT he said the interaction between java<>native still produced a noticable 'delay'
Aug 08 08:07:58 <GodLike> ok i see
Aug 08 08:08:10 <GodLike> im gonna research it a little
Aug 08 08:09:02 <perihare> hmm well
Aug 08 08:09:08 <perihare> for future reference on the problem i had
Aug 08 08:09:24 <perihare> apparently how barcode reader does it is that they only use a previewhandler once
Aug 08 08:10:33 <perihare> when it's called, the preview callback does camera.setPreviewCallback(null);
Aug 08 08:10:50 <perihare> and only after the frame has been processed does it make a new callback
Aug 08 08:10:52 <perihare> weird
Aug 08 09:00:05 <jasongornall> is it possible to display a progress bar in a non ui thread?
Aug 08 11:07:23 <DarkFoxDK> Hey, what is the recommended format+resolution for a logo?
Aug 08 11:07:27 <DarkFoxDK> logo/icon
Aug 08 11:11:11 <deebo> 48x48 png with alpha?
Aug 08 11:11:20 <Rexxars> http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/ui_guidelines/icon_design.html#launcherstructure
Aug 08 11:12:15 <DarkFoxDK> ah, thanks :)
Aug 08 11:16:21 <AndyArmstrong> hey guys
Aug 08 11:16:28 <AndyArmstrong> there is an error in my manifest
Aug 08 11:16:38 <AndyArmstrong> http://www.pastebin.org/7417
Aug 08 11:16:42 <AndyArmstrong> its cmoplaining about line 5
Aug 08 11:16:45 <AndyArmstrong> saying that class does not exist
Aug 08 11:16:48 <AndyArmstrong> but it bloody well does!
Aug 08 11:19:09 <Rexxars> lowercase boinc?
Aug 08 11:19:12 <Rexxars> funny class name :)
Aug 08 11:20:42 <ccmas> Hi, is there a way to use animated wait-circle? I mean that thing that is e.g. under Windows a sandglass. I want to use it without the normal wait dialog
Aug 08 11:21:32 <deebo> ProgressBar
Aug 08 11:21:57 <deebo> is by default a spinner 'wait circle'
Aug 08 11:22:47 <ccmas> deebo: thanks! how can I be _that_ stupid not to find it ...
Aug 08 11:34:00 <SuD1> hi, breakpoints set on an inputMethodService seem not to work, is it normal?
Aug 08 11:39:49 <AndyArmstrong> anyone ^^^
Aug 08 11:39:58 <AndyArmstrong>  http://www.pastebin.org/7417 complains at line 5
Aug 08 11:40:03 <AndyArmstrong> says clas doesnt exist
Aug 08 11:40:05 <AndyArmstrong> but it does
Aug 08 11:46:13 <AndyArmstrong> ....
Aug 08 11:46:17 <AndyArmstrong> haro..
Aug 08 11:46:19 <AndyArmstrong> plz help
Aug 08 11:50:00 <AndyArmstrong> people
Aug 08 11:50:01 <AndyArmstrong> :@
Aug 08 11:59:07 <shahon> hey, do you have an idea how i could display mathematical formula in a application?
Aug 08 12:08:30 <ccmas> AnyArmstrong: because .boinc is not the class name
Aug 08 12:08:38 <ccmas> remove the .
Aug 08 12:11:07 <SinnerG> _Auron_ are you here ?
Aug 08 12:12:47 <SinnerG> I currently have 2 threads : the game (processing) thread and the render thread (opengl es)
Aug 08 12:13:14 <SinnerG> what I do is create a list of things to draw (draw* classes) and then once all game 'states' are processed push them to the opengl es thread for rendering
Aug 08 12:13:51 <SinnerG> this works well, but prevents optimizations
Aug 08 12:14:52 <SinnerG> alternative method would be to let a 'draw' method be called in the states (on teh opengl es thread) BUT then I have another problem : since its 2 seperate threads I either have to 'lock' the 'runs' per seconds to FPS OR let my state figure out if it may draw or not
Aug 08 12:14:55 <SinnerG> meh
Aug 08 12:16:29 <AndyArmstrong> actuakllly cmas u need the .
Aug 08 12:16:46 <SinnerG> cant decide on a good method :'(
Aug 08 12:20:50 <SinnerG> hmm what I could do is let the render thread watch some variable, if its true, it'll run draw() on all states, if not true, sleep till it is true
Aug 08 12:21:12 <SinnerG> this means it is stilled 'linked' to fps BUT if a state doesnt ask for a rerender, it wont trigger draw()'s :)
Aug 08 12:21:31 <SinnerG> how does that sound? anyone? :P
Aug 08 12:23:07 <deebo> have you watched the google io talk "writing realtime games on android"?
Aug 08 12:25:43 <SinnerG> saw the presentation slides (I think)
Aug 08 12:26:01 <SinnerG> I wrote a simple 'recycle bin' to reuse objects :P
Aug 08 12:26:12 <SinnerG> since creating objects is evil @ android
Aug 08 12:29:03 <deebo> btw any tips for game programming books/resources, i get the basic principles of real time games but need info and examples on stuff like syncing etc
Aug 08 12:29:47 <SinnerG> no idea, sry, trying it on myself here :P
Aug 08 12:42:43 <Exelence> Can I install any newer version than  my preinstalled 1.5 release 1 on my HTC Hero?
Aug 08 12:58:07 <SinnerG> ok I done it as I said last
Aug 08 12:58:10 <SinnerG> think it should work :p
Aug 08 13:27:45 <SinnerG> w00t it rendered a circle ;p
Aug 08 13:29:49 <dvrcoder> hi, anyone here familiar with the Input Method Manager?
Aug 08 15:20:08 <Rexxars> so apparently
Aug 08 15:20:57 <Rexxars> TelephonyManager.getNetworkType() can return 4 on the HTC Hero
Aug 08 15:21:48 <Rexxars> I assume this is HSDPA, but I can't see it in the documentation.. is this a HTC Hero thing only, or will that be the standard?
Aug 08 15:24:01 <Rexxars> and is there another value for HSUPA?
Aug 08 15:24:58 <SinnerG> would there be a reason to NOT leave glEnableClientState(GL10.GL_VERTEX_ARRAY) on at all times?
Aug 08 15:45:44 <shahon> can someone tell me how i can get data stored in a mysql database... since the jdbc driver code isn't distributed with android i'm a bit lost
Aug 08 15:49:11 <Leeds> shahon: short answer - either use a pure-java library and include the jar, or provide an HTTP wrapper on your server
Aug 08 15:49:36 <Leeds> in the meantime, who knows the right way to react to an item in a spinner being selected?
Aug 08 16:01:52 <cliffstah> facially? sort of like this -> :O
Aug 08 16:02:30 <cliffstah> (I don't know, is the real answer)
Aug 08 16:26:35 <dvrcoder> hi all
Aug 08 16:27:43 <SinnerG> hi
Aug 08 16:34:39 <SinnerG> my way of doing object recycling
Aug 08 16:34:40 <SinnerG> http://nopaste.me/4815
Aug 08 16:40:57 <SinnerG> does that look ok?
Aug 08 17:37:19 <meller> Hello all!
Aug 08 17:57:24 <jasongornall> hey guys
Aug 08 18:08:08 <aunn> jasongornall: did you get my message about alertdialog box yesterday?
Aug 08 18:08:20 <aunn> before u disconnect
Aug 08 18:08:30 <jasongornall> ohh yeah
Aug 08 18:08:33 <jasongornall> thankyou :)
Aug 08 18:08:45 <ArmyAndy> hey guys
Aug 08 18:09:01 <aunn> glad, u did :)
Aug 08 18:09:07 <ArmyAndy> is it possible that i can write a service which listens for battery state changes like plugged in charging etc - and then execute an activity based upon that
Aug 08 18:10:18 <ArmyAndy> ...
Aug 08 18:10:32 <jasongornall> is it possible to make a spinner popup without actually adding it to the contextview?
Aug 08 18:10:46 <jasongornall> like I want to have it on a button pressed a box comes up to choose items
Aug 08 18:10:53 <jasongornall> I believe a spinner is the best way to do that?
Aug 08 18:15:19 <frez> ArmyAndy: maybe it's a broadcast for that?
Aug 08 18:17:39 <frez> ArmyAndy: android.intent.action.BATTERY_CHANGED?
Aug 08 18:25:07 <aunn> xavd ?
Aug 08 18:28:30 <ArmyAndy> frez so how do i right a service which just sits there
Aug 08 18:28:32 <ArmyAndy> and then reacts to it
Aug 08 18:29:01 <ArmyAndy> i know how i would write an application like ana ctivity to do it
Aug 08 18:29:31 <ArmyAndy> but its a bit diff if the thing has no
Aug 08 18:29:44 <ArmyAndy> how do i right a service which intercepts those broadcasts then
Aug 08 18:29:54 <ArmyAndy> cos its a bit diff to having an acitivity in the foreground doing it
Aug 08 18:33:31 <jasongornall> anyone out there wanna help me out?
Aug 08 18:50:58 <Ramosa> http://www.break.com/index/cool-nes-synth-music-application.html
Aug 08 18:51:03 <Ramosa> i want that for android :-|
Aug 08 18:51:12 <jasongornall> can someone explain to me how to create a contextmenu?
Aug 08 18:51:19 <jasongornall> I have tried over 5 tutorials and none of them work
Aug 08 18:55:12 <jasta> jasongornall: on a listview?  just registerForContextMenu(list) and then handle on something something context menu :)
Aug 08 18:55:46 <jasta> android.git.kernel.org is your friend....
Aug 08 18:59:11 <savid> Is there a way to disable the screen timeout while I'm plugged into USB?  Or do I have to do it manually?   just gets a little annoying having to unlock it every now and then while developing
Aug 08 19:00:48 <jasta> savid: yes, see developer settings under applications or whatever
Aug 08 19:01:38 <savid> jasta, ahh thanks..  I thought there was a setting for that, just couldn't find it :-P
Aug 08 19:02:47 <jasongornall> jasta
Aug 08 19:02:51 <jasongornall> can I do that to a textview?
Aug 08 19:03:04 <jasta> jasongornall: sure, but don't.
Aug 08 19:03:12 <jasongornall> lol I am just testing the menu :p
Aug 08 19:03:16 <jasta> textview already has a context menu, it prompts for input method
Aug 08 19:03:17 <jasongornall> before I add it to my main program
Aug 08 19:03:24 <jasta> just don't.
Aug 08 19:03:24 <jasongornall> ahh
Aug 08 19:03:29 <jasongornall> what should I test it on then
Aug 08 19:04:09 <jasta> add context menus to lists
Aug 08 19:05:59 <jasongornall> ahhh
Aug 08 19:06:04 <jasongornall> so does it run the menu
Aug 08 19:06:10 <jasongornall> for each cell on a listview?
Aug 08 19:06:21 <jasta> uhm, something liek that
Aug 08 19:07:20 <jasongornall> yeah it works!
Aug 08 19:07:22 <jasongornall> thanksyou
Aug 08 19:07:23 <jasongornall> :D
Aug 08 19:08:34 <jasongornall> is there a way to know which item from the listview was clicked on
Aug 08 19:09:26 <jasta> what do you think?
Aug 08 19:12:49 <jasongornall> well yeah there has to be
Aug 08 19:12:53 <kaltepuk> jasongornall: have you done the notepad exercises?
Aug 08 19:14:08 <kaltepuk> Notepad Exercise 2 objective: "How to create a context menu"
Aug 08 19:17:18 <jasongornall> sweet
Aug 08 19:17:21 <jasongornall> just went through it
Aug 08 19:17:24 <jasongornall> 	        AdapterContextMenuInfo info = (AdapterContextMenuInfo) item.getMenuInfo();
Aug 08 19:17:32 <jasongornall> info.id
Aug 08 19:19:24 <savid> I have a sprite that's loaded using context.getResources().getDrawable(),  and I'm rotating it using canvas.rotate().    How do I make it so that the drawable is antialiased, so the edges look more smooth when rotating?
Aug 08 19:48:35 <ArmyAndy>  SO, how do i write a service which just sits in the background and responds whenever a certain broadcast is found?!?!?!? cos it seems different to an activity?!
Aug 08 19:51:05 <ArmyAndy>  SO, how do i write a service which just sits in the background and responds whenever a certain broadcast is found?!?!?!? cos it seems different to an activity?!
Aug 08 21:16:27 <AndyArmstrong222> hi is it possible to make a service that runs even after restarting the fone automatically?
Aug 08 21:21:25 <AndyArmstrong222> ...
Aug 08 21:23:55 <AndyArmstrong222> anyone!?
Aug 08 21:27:21 <AndyArmstrong222> ...
Aug 08 21:28:15 <erlehmann> is there any way to add codecs to the media engine on android ? like … compiling libtheora ?
Aug 08 21:29:09 <AndyArmstrong222> no dnt think so
Aug 08 21:30:35 <deebo> the media framework is closed'ish i think
Aug 08 21:31:01 <deebo> hopefully they add more support later
Aug 08 21:31:23 <deebo> tho it already supports generic mpeg4, no info on containers etc tho
Aug 08 21:33:11 <AndyArmstrong222> so does anyone no can I make a service that starts everytime the fone is turned on
Aug 08 22:05:57 <jasongornall> is there a way to show a menu on click
Aug 08 22:06:00 <jasongornall> instead of click hold?
Aug 08 22:11:51 <erlehmann> deebo: vorbis is there :) but theora would be nice, especially since its appropriate for low-powered devices, like some of the other on2 codecs.
Aug 08 22:13:14 <deebo> erlehmann: the media support is really shitty for video anyhow
Aug 08 22:17:02 <jasongornall_> is there a way to show a menu on click
Aug 08 22:17:02 <jasongornall_> [6:06pm] jasongornall: instead of click hold?
Aug 08 22:17:05 <jasongornall_> :)
Aug 08 22:29:41 <evervoid> Hello
Aug 08 22:30:05 <evervoid> anyon here?
Aug 08 22:33:31 <DarkFoxDK> I love when people do that...
Aug 08 22:38:23 <deebo> ask2ask protocol has serious overhead
Aug 08 22:46:22 <kaltepuk> jason maybe try opening a dialog with a when you click a list view item? mess around with that to see if it can do what you want
Aug 08 23:32:23 <AndyArmstrong> can anyone tell me the name of the broadcast for when u plug in ur fone
Aug 08 23:34:36 <jasongornall_> anyone know how to programatically launch a contextmenu
Aug 08 23:44:16 <JacquesBH> Hi
Aug 08 23:44:24 <JacquesBH> I've a little question... :D
Aug 08 23:58:08 <JacquesBH-Fr> So... I've my response :p Thanks ^^
Aug 09 00:18:26 <kaltepuk> any ideas how this can happen? "... getNetworkLocation(): Returning cache location with accuracy -1.0"  It's causing strange behavior.
Aug 09 00:18:41 <kaltepuk> I don' see any documentation about negative accuracy
Aug 09 00:19:13 <deebo> maybe it means no accuracy available -> no lock at all?
Aug 09 00:19:31 <kaltepuk> I believe it's supposed to return 0.0 if that's the case
Aug 09 00:24:11 <deebo> what class is that method in
Aug 09 00:25:58 <kaltepuk> getNetworkLocation() is some inaccessible method called for location-stuff, you can see it being used in logcat
Aug 09 00:27:06 <deebo> ah, i just thought about looking it up in the sources
Aug 09 00:31:16 <kaltepuk> apparently it means the provider is temporarily unavailable
Aug 09 00:38:53 <kaltepuk> resetting the unit solved that issue, but that's not good
Aug 09 00:42:54 <deebo> hmm no streetview in the maps app?
Aug 09 00:48:40 <jsharkey> its there, i think you have to dig for it tho
Aug 09 00:49:13 <jsharkey> deebo: long-press on a map location
Aug 09 00:49:16 <jsharkey> anywhere on map
Aug 09 00:50:20 <deebo> jsharkey: ah, thanks
Aug 09 00:51:29 <deebo> compass mode is so cool heh
Aug 09 00:51:39 <Riceri> I use google maps in my app, and use MyLocationOverlay to show where i am. But is there a way to keep my pos centered?  Now it moved the map only when i am about to leave it kinda
Aug 09 00:53:31 <deebo> override onLocationChanged
Aug 09 00:53:47 <deebo> add mapView.getController().animateTo(location)
Aug 09 00:53:58 <Riceri> thanks!
Aug 09 01:39:30 <deebo> hmpf, arent there any proper video players for android yet
Aug 09 01:39:46 <deebo> the 'video player' app from the market doesnt keep sync, fps seems to randomly fluctuate
Aug 09 01:39:56 <deebo> act1 player doesnt keep the aspect ratio
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