**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jan 28 03:00:00 2012 Jan 28 03:02:14 pfn, looks like some folders on the /sdcard are causing this reboot :/ Jan 28 03:02:52 even listing them causes a boot and there's an I/O error on them when i ls them from the recovery O.o Jan 28 03:03:44 and of course...even going to "storage" reboots it >_< Jan 28 03:03:45 damn Jan 28 03:10:04 whoa...looks like the filesystem is corrupt :/ Jan 28 03:10:07 on the sdcard Jan 28 03:10:16 i wonder how that happened Jan 28 03:30:59 I'm not quit getting how to use AsyncTask Jan 28 03:31:13 *quite Jan 28 03:31:25 put your crap in doInBackground and then call (new MyAsyncTask()).execute(); Jan 28 03:32:42 what do i make doInBackground return? Jan 28 03:33:07 whatever you want Jan 28 03:33:36 android has no opinion on it, it doesn't care. It's for you. Jan 28 03:33:52 ahh ok Jan 28 03:37:37 what if i don't need params or progress items for mine tho? Jan 28 03:37:49 I'm trying to replace this Thread with a AsyncTask Jan 28 03:37:50 http://pastebin.com/37YZRqyT Jan 28 03:42:06 use the type Void and pass null Jan 28 03:44:28 I just want to make sure i'm going in the right direction..the main problem i'm having in that code is that the if else branch below the new Thread is executing before connectionHandler.executeLogin actually runs. therefore it isn't getting the right boolean value. Jan 28 03:44:35 so I should go with AsyncTask to fix this? Jan 28 03:44:49 I think all concurrency problems should use AsyncTask Jan 28 03:46:01 And yes, you seem to not really understand how to do threading based on this sample Jan 28 03:47:10 right, i have basic theoretical knowledge. but i've never done thread programming. besides some pthread stuff Jan 28 03:48:18 you don't really need to know thread programming to use AsyncTask Jan 28 03:48:37 AsyncTask is too nicely done to care about it Jan 28 04:00:58 pfn, I fixed it! :D the /data filesystem was corrupt, ran an e2fsck from recovery Jan 28 04:01:07 there were like 8 corrupted folders Jan 28 04:01:19 including /sdcard/data >_< Jan 28 04:05:04 here is my attempt at moving my code to a AsyncTask. http://pastebin.com/3VCQHak4 Jan 28 04:05:18 however, I think the Toast's are making it crash right now. Jan 28 04:05:35 yeah Jan 28 04:05:47 you can't do anything with the UI in the background thread Jan 28 04:05:55 show them in onPostExecute Jan 28 04:06:38 ahh alright. Jan 28 04:07:10 yeah so return something to onPostExecute from doInBackground and use that to show the relevant toast Jan 28 04:09:33 hello, I'm having some troubles getting a button with a drawable to bahve the way I want: It displays the background fine (on which are defined the states), but when clicked it doesn't change images Jan 28 04:11:43 Afzal: I keep reading that sentence and it's not clicking for some reason Jan 28 04:12:17 hmm...;well, i guess the "return something to onPostExecute from doInBackground" doesn't click ? Jan 28 04:14:54 right :@ Jan 28 04:16:04 erebel55, http://pastebin.com/bUFXfuDi Jan 28 04:16:25 basically, whatever you return from doInBackground is automatically the argument for onPostExecture Jan 28 04:16:36 onPostExecute* Jan 28 04:16:53 oh wow that makes sense now. :D Jan 28 04:17:09 thanks! Jan 28 04:22:17 is ics not in the android dev tools for eclipse yet? Jan 28 04:22:32 i'm running arch and have updated all the packages, but i'm still seeing gb Jan 28 04:22:53 i have android-sdk r16 Jan 28 04:24:10 yes it is Jan 28 04:24:40 what do you mean? It should whatever stuff you have in your platform folder in the sdk folder Jan 28 04:24:44 shows* Jan 28 04:25:02 ok Jan 28 04:25:08 i'm only seeing android-10 in there Jan 28 04:25:13 so i'm missing the actual ics package Jan 28 04:28:11 oh, i see the problem Jan 28 04:28:18 it's not updated through the package manager Jan 28 04:28:21 i have to manually install it Jan 28 04:28:33 Hey y'all. Let's say I have a gradient background image that looks great on a T-Mobile G2 in MDPI, but looks grainy on something like a Nook Color tablet. They're both MDPI, so the asset should look the same on both, right? Jan 28 04:28:51 Otherwise, what should I do to make it not look grainy on the larger (also MDPI) devices? Jan 28 04:28:51 hm i'm having problems in AsyncTask with bool and boolean. My executeLogin function returns boolean but AsyncTask can only work with bool? Jan 28 04:29:01 erebel55: No. Jan 28 04:30:05 VonRath: you have both of these devices to test on? Jan 28 04:30:17 or is this a report from a user? Jan 28 04:30:21 oh capatalized Boolean. sorry got it Jan 28 04:31:25 CQN: Yes. Jan 28 04:31:28 Is the G2 HDPI? Jan 28 04:31:32 Could the converse be the problem? Jan 28 04:33:10 do you have any other devices to test on? Jan 28 04:33:47 No, these are the only 2. Jan 28 04:33:56 It just look very grainy on the Nook Color, which obviously is much larger. Jan 28 04:34:03 But I thought both devices are MDPI. Jan 28 04:34:14 If they are both MDPI, it should look the same on both devices, right? Jan 28 04:34:19 Despite the varying screen sizes? Jan 28 04:34:53 yes! AsyncTask fixed it woot :D thanks guys Jan 28 04:35:14 VonRath: nook color isn't mdpi, it's mdpi-large Jan 28 04:35:49 So I should have separate assets for mdpi-large? Jan 28 04:36:11 is there a provision for that? Jan 28 04:36:17 isn't the nook color nonstandard android? Jan 28 04:36:26 like the kindle fire Jan 28 04:36:35 i'm not familiar with the nook Jan 28 04:37:30 i don't see anything for that Jan 28 04:37:35 mdpi-large, that is Jan 28 04:38:00 Let me rephrase my question. Jan 28 04:38:23 Should an asset render the same on devices with different screen-sizes but same DPI? Jan 28 04:38:52 well yes Jan 28 04:39:08 but apparently the nook doesn't report that info correctly: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7488459/android-dpi-on-the-galaxy-tab-vs-the-nook Jan 28 04:39:28 Oh interesting. Jan 28 04:39:57 I just wrote a test to pull the DPI using getResources().getDisplayMetrics().density and it told me it was MDPI. Jan 28 04:40:00 Wonder if that's incorrect? Jan 28 04:40:10 that could be it Jan 28 04:40:34 i'm not sure how to remedy this sort of thing short of device-specific settings Jan 28 04:40:40 Right. Jan 28 04:41:08 Is it possible that the T-Mobile G2 is HDPI? I know I could Google this, or run the same test on my other device, but I'm being lazy. ;) Jan 28 04:41:43 why are you testing on a nook color anyway? it's not actually an android tablet, per se Jan 28 04:41:57 if it looks ok on the g2, then don't worry about it Jan 28 04:42:13 Yeah, I'm really only asking out of intellectual curiosity. Jan 28 04:42:49 this shouldn't come up if you put the app on the market Jan 28 04:43:22 Aha! Jan 28 04:43:38 The G2 _is_ HDPI, so it make sense that the assets look wonky on the Nook Color. Jan 28 04:45:01 hey guys Jan 28 04:45:55 i'm trying to save a picture in external storage. it fails when doing method mkdirs(). I beleive its because i don't have permission to create files. What do i add to the manifest file to allow file manipulation? Jan 28 04:46:06 I'm trying to save to the public directory Jan 28 04:46:12 how can I get the ant build system to not only install my app on the target system, but also to start itits main activity? Jan 28 04:46:24 (just like eclipse) Jan 28 04:47:19 sorry found it guys Jan 28 04:47:25 i should have looked at dev document closer Jan 28 04:56:18 https://market.android.com/details?id=com.spartacusrex.spartacuside&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zcGFydGFjdXNyZXguc3BhcnRhY3VzaWRlIl0. what do you guys think of this? Jan 28 04:58:40 VonRath: did you try adding custom handling for the nook? Jan 28 05:02:56 No. Jan 28 05:03:13 Another question: Will an HDPI asset render grainily (sorry) on MDPI? Jan 28 05:04:16 so if i use an intent for camera and specify the URI to save the image. The intent received in the callback method would not have that filepath in the data key? Jan 28 05:04:40 VonRath, scaling down is usually a lot better than scaling up Jan 28 05:04:55 VonRath: shouldn't it be downscaled? Jan 28 05:04:56 i know i could try it , but i keep getting null pointer when i try to retreive that image from that intent. Jan 28 05:06:15 quick tip, anti-aliasing does not look good if image has been downscaled Jan 28 05:06:56 on a bitmap that is Jan 28 05:08:52 I'd think so. Jan 28 05:09:48 I know how to specify different assets for the different DPI levels (drawable-hdpi, drawable-mdpi), but how do I specify different assets for the different screen sizes? (small, normal, large, etc) Jan 28 05:10:16 Do I create subfolders in the drawable-mdpi and drawable-mdpi folders called like small, normal, large...? Jan 28 05:10:26 howdy Jan 28 05:10:33 stupid noob question Jan 28 05:10:38 but im trying to play with the sdk Jan 28 05:10:40 you should only be worrying about DPI Jan 28 05:10:44 using eclipse Jan 28 05:10:53 and im having trouble getting the "adt" plugin Jan 28 05:10:54 screen size is something that's the responsibility of the layouts to accomidate, usually Jan 28 05:10:57 is there a direct download Jan 28 05:11:26 VonRath: i don't think that's an official thing Jan 28 05:11:32 Huh, okay. Jan 28 05:11:33 people just came up with that terminology Jan 28 05:11:38 it is official Jan 28 05:11:41 lol Jan 28 05:11:43 small, normal, large, xlarge Jan 28 05:11:44 there you go Jan 28 05:11:44 Sorry to be beating a dead-horse here. Jan 28 05:11:47 Right. Jan 28 05:12:03 If i do EXTRA_OUTPUT to the intent action for camera. The intent object in the callback method does not have handle to the filename that was written to ? Jan 28 05:12:10 Let's say I have a tiny HDPI device and a huge HDPI device... should the gradient background images display identically on the 2, despite their different sizes? Jan 28 05:12:14 VonRath, those are *usually* for non-drawable assets Jan 28 05:12:31 oh background stuff Jan 28 05:12:45 well if you're doing a gradient you could do it in XML so it scales infinitely Jan 28 05:12:52 JakeWharton: And in that case, I _would_ create folders for the different sizes? Jan 28 05:13:00 Let's say I didn't do that. ;) Jan 28 05:13:06 you would add the classifiers to the folder Jan 28 05:13:13 drawable-hdpi-large Jan 28 05:13:15 etc. Jan 28 05:13:21 Theoretically it should scale correctly if it's the same DPI, right? Jan 28 05:13:26 Thanks, JakeWharton! Jan 28 05:13:45 IE: Again, large screen, small screen same DPI assets should render identically right? Jan 28 05:14:01 they'll take up the same amount of pixels Jan 28 05:14:19 they will be different sizes in relation to the screen size though Jan 28 05:14:55 Okay, what if I specify that the scaletype is such that it should populate the entire screen? Jan 28 05:15:50 well if you're doing that you probably don't need DPI-specific resources because it will be scaled anyways Jan 28 05:16:13 But it might look awful on different screen sizes, right? Jan 28 05:16:59 well, it depends Jan 28 05:17:08 Audible laughter. Jan 28 05:17:27 you can have a 4" mdpi screen and a 4" xhdpi screen Jan 28 05:17:42 Sure. Jan 28 05:17:45 but you can also have a 10" mdpi and a 10" hdpi, etc. Jan 28 05:17:53 i would just pick a couple buckets and make images for those Jan 28 05:17:58 no need to provide a ton of images Jan 28 05:18:14 What if I have a 4" HDPI and a 10" HDPI? Will the background image scale correctly and not look grainy on the larger device? Jan 28 05:18:16 if you're doing gradients, though, i would recommend doing XML drawables Jan 28 05:18:28 Definitely. I'm really just asking to better understand how this works. Jan 28 05:18:56 no, it will look grainy because its still being scaled up to 4x as many pixels Jan 28 05:19:17 the density only means that they have the same number of pixels per inch Jan 28 05:19:21 So, how do I fix that... assuming I'd love to do the wrong thing and use an image? Jan 28 05:19:26 ;) Jan 28 05:19:39 you're going to get banding on any scale operation Jan 28 05:20:13 Is there anything that can be done to specify an alternate resource for the larger screen? Jan 28 05:20:27 Not that I want to -- just curious. Jan 28 05:21:24 for Android 3.2+ there are better qualifiers that are content size driven that allow you to specify assets when there is so many device-independent pixels available Jan 28 05:21:33 you can use -large but you don't know the resolution without the DPI too Jan 28 05:21:48 So... short answer is "no?" Jan 28 05:21:52 it could be 800x480 and ugly or 1920x1080 and gorgeous Jan 28 05:22:10 but both are still 'large' or 'xlarge' screens Jan 28 05:22:24 App I just built has a pretty ugly splash screen with some gradients in it, and it looks awful on my Nook Color (I know I shouldn't be testing on a Nook Color), because it scales jaggedly. Jan 28 05:22:48 Looks great on most phones. Jan 28 05:22:57 So how do we resolve this? Jan 28 05:23:38 well, you could provide a better asset for a more specific qualifier to target the Nook Color Jan 28 05:23:49 you could even use the device ID to target only the Nook Color Jan 28 05:24:13 but that should be a last resort Jan 28 05:24:31 But what if it looks horrible on all larger tablets? Jan 28 05:24:41 Looks great on small screens, looks terrible on big screens. Jan 28 05:24:43 heh Jan 28 05:24:49 Feel like I owe you a case of beer at this point. Jan 28 05:25:49 guys if im using IMAGE_CAPTURE intent to get a picture... i use the EXTRA_OUTPUT. Do i have to keep track of the URI i save it so i can for example set a image view to be the bitmap of the image saved or does the data intent in the callback method have some feature to return the bitmap or the uri Jan 28 05:26:03 i would add -hdpi-large and -mdpi-large images then Jan 28 05:26:08 that should cover most tablets enough Jan 28 05:27:37 Cool, thanks a lot for the help with understanding this. Jan 28 05:28:00 If you're in or near SF I'd be glad to get some beer delivered to you next week. Jan 28 05:28:24 VonRath: SF? Jan 28 05:28:24 i'll be in SF on Monday for an interview :) but no beer is required Jan 28 05:28:55 asset management is the bread and butter of why Android rocks so I'm happy to make people more aware of how it works (or try to) Jan 28 05:28:56 JakeWharton: you are applying for android dev position ? Jan 28 05:29:00 ok any help for a noob who is getting timeout erros while trying to install adt in eclipse :) Jan 28 05:29:28 sileni, yeah someone contacted me a few weeks ago and I figured the timing was right Jan 28 05:29:42 DemonicMember, site might be down Jan 28 05:29:44 JakeWharton: nice. good luck :) Jan 28 05:29:45 are you using https or http? Jan 28 05:29:50 I feel like I mostly understand how it works -- but I've never thoroughly understood how to specifically target larger screen sizes. Jan 28 05:29:54 i turned off https just http Jan 28 05:30:04 JakeWharton: Yeah, good luck. Interviewing anywhere good? Jan 28 05:30:07 JakeWharton: dang you are going to rock that interview out of the water Jan 28 05:30:15 yeah been trying for 24 horus Jan 28 05:30:17 JakeWharton: Do we get to know where you're interviewing? Jan 28 05:30:18 guess ill give it a day or two Jan 28 05:30:45 Heh, no, sorry. But if I get hired you'll be more than welcome to know :) Jan 28 05:30:51 And thank you for the kind words Jan 28 05:30:58 JakeWharton: Is it a popular startup? Jan 28 05:31:03 Very Jan 28 05:31:12 TaskRabbit ? Jan 28 05:31:19 ;) Jan 28 05:31:31 does it have two o's two g's and l and an e in it ? Jan 28 05:31:31 Nope. I imagine we could be here all night guessing, though, there's so many Jan 28 05:31:37 heh Jan 28 05:32:11 JakeWharton: you should take my question as a interview question Jan 28 05:32:16 JakeWharton: it might come up i promise! Jan 28 05:32:28 So, just to be clear again, I can have a folder called drawable-hdpi-large for storing bigger versions of things like a splash resource? Jan 28 05:32:53 sileni, what was it? Jan 28 05:33:51 JakeWharton: so i'm using the camera intent ("IMAGE_CAPTURE") ... i pass it "EXTRA_OUTPUT" and a valid uri.. it saves the file fine but in the callback method im trying to use the data intent to set a bitmap in an imageview and im failing Jan 28 05:34:10 JakeWharton: does the data intent in the callback method have anyway of getting handle to the image saved? Jan 28 05:34:36 it should Jan 28 05:34:41 never used the camera myself though Jan 28 05:34:52 tons of apps do what you describe Jan 28 05:35:01 JakeWharton: Bitmap image = (Bitmap) data.getExtras().get("data"); doesn't work Jan 28 05:35:04 JakeWharton: oh ok Jan 28 05:35:07 What i describe? Jan 28 05:35:33 http://stackoverflow.com/a/6789827/132047 Jan 28 05:35:36 VonRath, yes Jan 28 05:35:44 sileni, link^^^ Jan 28 05:36:13 Thanks again. Jan 28 05:36:35 VonRath, http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/resources/providing-resources.html Jan 28 05:38:12 JakeWharton: ye i did what the second guy did and it didn't work Jan 28 05:38:47 what about the accepted answer? Jan 28 05:39:54 http://stackoverflow.com/a/4418602/132047 Jan 28 05:39:57 comments on that one Jan 28 05:42:18 ye i guess im running into that problem where it is null Jan 28 05:42:50 last comment gives solution Jan 28 05:44:22 JakeWharton: the keyboard|orientation solution? Jan 28 05:44:29 JakeWharton: or just keeping track of the filename myself Jan 28 05:45:23 filename Jan 28 05:47:59 JakeWharton: k thanks i will go that route Jan 28 05:48:09 JakeWharton: i hope you land that job, you are very nice for helping others! Jan 28 05:51:58 thank you! Jan 28 06:06:02 http://pastebin.com/w3Rg0RyL Jan 28 06:06:20 what am I doing wrong? If i remove "b0.setVisibility(..);" Jan 28 06:06:23 it works.. Jan 28 06:08:54 whats the error you are getting?... Jan 28 06:09:47 I suck at using debugger ._. Jan 28 06:11:43 can you pastebin your logcat? Jan 28 06:13:48 http://pastebin.com/eB1LRxZr Jan 28 06:16:07 thats just your console, logcat will be the one that looks like "andy" laying down Jan 28 06:17:59 I just copied it fromt he "logcat" tab.. :o Jan 28 06:18:15 i'll do this thing later, first will go learn how to use debugger :\ Jan 28 06:18:18 anyway, android.view.ViewRootImpl$CalledFromWrongThreadException: Only the original thread that created a view hierarchy can touch its views. Jan 28 06:18:45 is the error related to that ^? ? Jan 28 06:21:50 it looks like it Jan 28 06:22:33 so, the "View.VISIBILE" may be crashing the app? Jan 28 06:23:50 Or, it means, i can't use the "b0" button here... Jan 28 06:27:35 you can't touch the UI from a background thread Jan 28 06:28:55 instead of creating a new thread try posting a runnable to the UI thread Jan 28 06:28:57 or using a handler Jan 28 06:30:37 umm... Jan 28 06:31:56 runOnUiThread(new Runnable() { public void run() { /* UI stuff */ } }); Jan 28 06:33:02 Cool... Jan 28 06:33:42 working, thanks. Is startingActivity a UI stuff too? :o Jan 28 06:33:56 startActivity* Jan 28 06:37:07 uh Jan 28 06:37:18 i don't think so Jan 28 06:37:24 never really tried Jan 28 06:37:43 and i'm unfamiliar with startActivity's implementation Jan 28 06:56:47 Thanks again, JakeWharton! Jan 28 06:56:56 Good luck at that interview. Jan 28 06:59:45 why do people insist on nesting fragments Jan 28 07:22:06 is it possible to have one edittext field be active for multiple views? more in a sense of, view1 can use edittextX, store the text, view2 opens edittextX and it be empty, click view1 and view1's text is back in edittextX ? does that make sense? Jan 28 08:15:16 What is a sensible way to organize my Eclipse Android projects? Jan 28 08:15:24 Do you guys make separate workspaces for each project? Jan 28 08:23:49 tree: no Jan 28 08:27:08 usually all in one workspace? Jan 28 09:43:32 hello all Jan 28 09:44:29 in my bindView() I am hiding/showing certain view's based on criteria I have set. However, when I am scrolling through the contents of the ListView, sometimes the data shows and sometimes it doesn't. Like one item shows no time, I leave the activyt and re-enter then it appears. I scroll around and it disappears. Jan 28 09:46:25 If you hide it, you have to show it again if needed Jan 28 09:46:58 based on criteria one of my items should always show the time.. when i scroll it shows at times and disappears at times. Jan 28 09:47:14 its all DB driven so the data is static Jan 28 09:48:30 Maybe some code Jan 28 10:09:20 hello there Jan 28 10:24:28 Hi guys, do you know if there's a way to add Google +1 support to mobile applications? Jan 28 10:25:01 stermi: there is an api Jan 28 10:25:16 Google+ api at the moment is read only Jan 28 10:25:27 your original question didn't state that Jan 28 10:25:42 that criteria so yes there's an api is the only answer to your question Jan 28 10:26:29 I asked if there was a way because at the moment the Google+ API is read only mode. So maybe someone tried to use a WebViw to add the +1 Jan 28 10:26:57 that's tricky and a little dirty but maybe it's a way to solve the problem Jan 28 10:27:05 *shrug* Jan 28 11:13:42 can anyone tell me why table were not created? it seems like my "oncreate" of SQLiteOpenHelper was never invoked Jan 28 11:14:09 is the "onCreate" only invoked when the database is created first time? Jan 28 11:32:48 if you published something in the market, for example com.mydomain.myapp as Packagename, is this Name for ever unchangeable? Jan 28 11:34:30 since you publish an APK it shouldn't be a problem Jan 28 11:34:46 you should be able to change package names ad-libitum Jan 28 11:36:39 well, I puplished for testing an app called com.mydomain.testapp. Now I want to have a new free com.mydomain-namespace. Jan 28 11:37:34 keep the name of the application and the name of the apk file the same and it should work Jan 28 11:38:08 or you remove your testapp from the market and publish the new app with your new namespace Jan 28 11:42:00 but isnt it still somewhere in the filestructur? Just hidden? Jan 28 11:43:11 I would like to include a shell-script in my Android application (As I would like the shell-script to function as a "backend" for some operations). how is the right way of doing that ? Jan 28 12:09:50 obviously you can only continue executing the code that depends on login after that thread is ready Jan 28 12:09:53 the correct code will use AsyncTask and write the code that deals with the login result in onPostExecute Jan 28 12:09:56 that way they are sequenced while main thread is free to respond to UI events Jan 28 12:09:59 in general terms android relies on a messages being sent between threads to handle cooperation. The UI thread can be notified at any time to do something by scheduling work for it in its message queue. However, asynctask hides all the details for you Jan 28 12:10:03 but if you need to do threading yourself, I strongly recommend trying some of these tried & true models such as producer-consumer which communicate by some BlockingQueue. These are easy to reason about, and android actually has something kinda like this which it calls IntentService. Jan 28 12:10:08 Also ExecutorService, which is what asynctask also relies on Jan 28 12:10:10 but in this case, forget about them. AsyncTask. Jan 28 12:10:26 yes, read the manual for asynctask Jan 28 12:10:28 better that than reinvent what it does, poorly Jan 28 12:10:31 also pay attention to the onProgressUpdate / publishProgress pair. Jan 28 12:10:34 you might not need it at this instance, but time comes when you will. Some guy was just yesterday reimplementing it. Jan 28 12:10:56 lack of antialiasing is even worse, though. It's mathematically true, at least. Jan 28 12:10:59 the larger issue is that downscaling algorithms we have ignore gamma correction during their operation, so they make things too dark. The actual downscaling process is otherwise a simple equal-area averaging (or that is one model to use for it) Jan 28 12:11:03 I have an idea about what a good scaling algorithm should do, but have not bothered to implement it yet. Jan 28 12:11:06 instead of square splotches of paint that are exactly 1 pixel wide and tall, I'd have overlapping smudges which are carefully placed so that equal-area averaging of the image still yields the original image. It would antialias naturally, and would preserve contrast better during minor scaling operations with high-frequency image data. Jan 28 12:11:17 There's no such scaletype. I imagine ImageView's width and height set to match_parent and scaleXY="fit" or something Jan 28 12:11:20 and you want only one asset, the highest resolution version of the image you got. Let android worry about scaling it. Jan 28 12:11:23 although do not go overboard with it. Make sure details are well visible in the highest resolution image but no more Jan 28 12:11:26 or was it scale="fitXY" Jan 28 12:11:28 anyway Jan 28 12:11:31 VonRath: 10" HDPI is probably something like 300 pixels per inch, so ... it's going to need around 2000 pixels to the larger dimension to have unique data per pixel. Jan 28 12:11:34 you should select the image's size according to size of the fundamental features in the image. That matters. Jan 28 12:11:37 there's no sense in generating a large but blurry source image. Android can make the same image from lower resolution version. Jan 28 12:11:46 downscaling is not supposed to look jagged, especially if the bitmap is filtered Jan 28 12:11:49 upscaling will produce jagged look because our image scaling algorithms are primitive and do not really try to preserve "information" in the image in undistorted way Jan 28 12:11:52 so they look at it as interpolation problem rather than as information content problem Jan 28 12:12:03 .... waaaaaaaaaall of text Jan 28 12:12:21 Note that this is not what a problem description Jan 28 12:12:23 Looks like use of UI objects outside main thread Jan 28 12:12:26 so you want to use AsyncTask, not Thread. Jan 28 12:12:28 Read up on it, it will servce you well. Jan 28 12:12:31 Dattz: also notice that you can use postDelayed and such methods on views to cause delayed execution of code Jan 28 12:12:34 no Threads are required for this kind of simple time delays. There's also the whole animation framework, also. Jan 28 12:12:37 Dattz: yes, I already told you. Jan 28 12:12:39 Use asynctask if you need to do something for a while and update views afterwards Jan 28 12:12:42 or use postDelayed or the animations framework for simpler things that don't actually imply background processing Jan 28 12:12:45 You can not use the view objects outside the ui thread. Jan 28 12:12:48 (technically inaccurate, as the exception's message says, but whatever. This is the only practical case that applies on android) Jan 28 12:12:51 me neither. I tend to use UI thread for everything except operations that actually can take a while to do Jan 28 12:40:07 after moving a module to another location and changing the packagename, the ressourcefile is still generating in the old directory. Any Ideas why? Jan 28 12:43:27 I have to correct, it is generated in the right directory but with the old package name. Jan 28 12:43:40 I cant find out why. Jan 28 12:47:42 did I just write some utter crap in here? I had some WEIRD bug in my fucking irc client Jan 28 12:48:07 I had system clock skewed off by some 7 hours, and fixing that caused my stupid client to flood all sorts of shit everyplace Jan 28 12:48:10 I don't get it. Jan 28 12:54:10 http://humorswitch.com/5335/meanwhile-in-iran/ Jan 28 12:54:51 in fact it was not skewed by 7 hours but 7 hours + 1 YEAR. Jesus. What on earth is going on with this virtualbox stuff, I have never had problems before except with this shit Jan 28 12:55:03 come March or so I'll definitely get rid of this piece of shit tech Jan 28 13:43:39 hi, what's replaced tabactivity? Jan 28 13:44:23 when compiling against 4, i see TabActivity is being marked as deprecated Jan 28 13:44:49 ViewPager or some such Jan 28 13:45:19 is that backwards compatible? Jan 28 13:46:42 ffs - "Note this class is currently under early design and development. The API will likely change in later updates of the compatibility library, requiring changes to the source code of apps when they are compiled against the newer version." Jan 28 13:47:02 ie, we've included alpha code for your enjoyment and deprecated the solid class Jan 28 14:00:57 oh and and and documented it! Jan 28 14:03:50 i think even all the goodness android brings, you're still looking to constantly update your app with new versions of android, and new devices Jan 28 14:12:13 thomasr2: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/TabActivity.html it says right here what you should do instead of using TabActivity Jan 28 14:16:33 how to set a textview's scrollbar from the right to the left side? Jan 28 14:22:27 anyone? Jan 28 14:32:53 hey folks. are there other projects like app inventor, which may be used to teach pupils smartphone development? Jan 28 14:35:58 Ge0rG: sure. a teacher who knows phone app development Jan 28 14:39:09 How to change the position of a TextView's Scrollbar from right to left side? Idk, how to use SCROLLBAR_POSITION_LEFT........... Jan 28 14:39:48 thomasr2: I suppose you are such a person? Or maybe you know such a teacher? Somebody who is able to teach UX, Java and Android principles to a group of high schoolers within three days? Jan 28 15:06:27 I would like to include a shell-script in my Android application (As I would like the shell-script to function as a "backend" for some operations). how is the right way of doing that ? Jan 28 15:47:43 hello Jan 28 15:47:48 * feesh throws down the gauntler Jan 28 15:47:59 * feesh also throws down his Inglish Dicshunary Jan 28 15:48:17 does anyone know how to get the position of a view relative to the top left of the screen? Jan 28 16:07:26 boom Jan 28 16:07:29 for those playing along at home Jan 28 16:07:32 getLocationInWindow Jan 28 16:12:06 and getLocationOnScreen Jan 28 16:19:55 are tablet screens considered xhdpi and xlarge? Jan 28 16:21:24 hi all Jan 28 16:22:41 is there any complete android sdk package around ? Jan 28 16:26:44 Im developing for froyo and up, but I don't want to include tablet support Jan 28 16:26:49 possible? Jan 28 16:35:29 Does the map api key have to be associated with the email used to publish the app? Jan 28 16:37:32 no Jan 28 16:37:44 thanks Jan 28 16:39:04 Im uploading my app, and I have enabled 12 permissions. It says that the user will be warned about all of them. Is this normal? Jan 28 16:39:16 yep lol Jan 28 16:40:12 Ok. I dont think it will literally prompt the user? Jan 28 16:40:31 its part of the confirmation process Jan 28 16:40:43 go intall any app and ital be after u click install Jan 28 16:53:21 Yay for optimizing old layout files Jan 28 16:53:32 4 viewgroups and 9 views could be made with 1 viewgroup and 3 views Jan 28 17:15:23 Can I add any layout as custom view to the Action Bar, or does it have to be for navigation? I would like to display some information there that is periodically updated. Jan 28 17:27:42 Is there a way to disable xlarge screens in api 8? Jan 28 17:28:06 it seems the only thing I can do is to use supports-screen, but that automatically reverts to compatibility mode. Jan 28 17:28:16 I dont want it to show up in the market place at all Jan 28 17:36:34 geestring, there are no xlarge in 8 Jan 28 17:36:42 it didnt exist until 9 Jan 28 17:36:47 and i think the first one released was 11 Jan 28 17:39:11 Hello. Does anyone know anything about the state of ecryptfs on Android? Jan 28 17:52:59 can anyone tell me the domains through which the admob ads are being retrieved Jan 28 17:53:07 i tried blocking m.admob.com and r.admob.com but its using some other domain i think Jan 28 17:53:15 the ads that are displayed inside apps8 Jan 28 17:53:17