**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Feb 04 02:59:58 2012 Feb 04 03:24:11 Silly question, but where in eclipse can I see messages logged with Log.i(foo)? Feb 04 03:25:39 logcat Feb 04 03:26:26 As4xk: I'm not seeing anything in there Feb 04 03:26:33 (I'm in the DDMS perspecctive) Feb 04 03:26:43 doing adb logcat works Feb 04 03:28:04 try selecting your device in the devices view in DDMS Feb 04 03:29:20 As4xk: select as in double-click? Should the messages show up then? Feb 04 03:29:44 (because they're not...) Feb 04 03:31:11 single click. I have experienced thet logcat does not show anything. and selecting my device there fixed it. If this does not fix it, then i'm sorry, but dont know whats wrong Feb 04 03:31:38 you have selected all mesages (no filters) in logcat? Feb 04 03:59:54 hey peeps, what's up?!? Feb 04 04:00:19 so what's preferred here, pastebin or something ? Feb 04 04:00:24 nm, looking at this free blackberry promotion O: Feb 04 04:00:39 else, something else? Feb 04 04:00:59 havoc: I'm new here, but I'd guess pastebin would be fine? Feb 04 04:01:56 kk, i have an issue with a member variable not initializing in the constructor, it's declared as public final int, but won't initialize when created Feb 04 04:02:51 the weird part about it is, i have two public final integers, one is an array. The array initializes just fine Feb 04 04:03:30 i'm new to android development and java for that matter, I'm a c/c++ programmer, but I can't figure this thing out Feb 04 04:03:51 any thoughts anyone ? Feb 04 04:04:06 Can you explain what you mean by "initialize when created"? Feb 04 04:04:25 i'll paste bin it….. gimme a sec..... Feb 04 04:04:54 You just have to assign a value to every final variable member by the end of each constructor. Feb 04 04:05:49 Also, ... final T[] is an easy bug. Feb 04 04:05:58 final just means the variable cannot be rebound. Feb 04 04:06:07 The contents of the array can still be modified though. Feb 04 04:06:21 So, you can change the members of the array, but you can't change which array it is Feb 04 04:07:43 ok, here ya go: http://pastebin.com/tn2ipprb Feb 04 04:07:47 If you need the members of the array to be immutable, Feb 04 04:07:48 I would suggest Feb 04 04:07:55 public final List foo; Feb 04 04:07:56 ... Feb 04 04:08:11 foo = Collections.unmodifiableList(Arrays.asList(a, b, c, d, ...)); Feb 04 04:08:13 ok, i see what you mean now, but i am initializing them in the constructor Feb 04 04:08:40 what's the error? Feb 04 04:09:33 the array is initialized correctly, but the integer is initialized as it's size, e.g. 2131034112 Feb 04 04:09:44 what are the reasons i can get foreign key mismatch? Feb 04 04:10:05 even though i see that values are correct, i still keep getting foreign key mismatch Feb 04 04:10:06 havoc74: ...what's the error? :P Feb 04 04:10:31 well, the first number represents the size of the array, which is supposed to be 38, but shows as 213… Array Out Of Bounds Exception Feb 04 04:11:22 i suppose i could do with out the array size holder and just use the array.size() member... Feb 04 04:11:22 is it bit weired that sqlite does not support long, where android insert method returns id as long? Feb 04 04:11:31 havoc74: That code is fine. Feb 04 04:11:40 You're probably just passing an incorrect number. Feb 04 04:11:45 And yeah, just use array.size(). Feb 04 04:11:47 it's doesn't work when used in a for... loop Feb 04 04:11:47 KISS. Feb 04 04:12:01 I think your bad code is elsewhere. Feb 04 04:12:09 yeah, that could be true.... Feb 04 04:12:12 Use a debugger to find where the value changes. Feb 04 04:12:25 i am initializing it using a resource reference Feb 04 04:13:06 i'll just do it the kiss way….. thanks for verifying my code though, i thought i was losing it…. lol Feb 04 04:13:17 so, i guess the insertion is failing coz id type is long, and in sqlite id type is integer Feb 04 04:14:56 02-04 05:14:39.738: INFO/Database(338): sqlite returned: error code = 1, msg = foreign key mismatch Feb 04 04:14:56 02-04 05:14:39.749: ERROR/Database(338): Error inserting note_fk=1 item_text=tomas Feb 04 04:14:56 android.database.sqlite.SQLiteException: foreign key mismatch: , while compiling: INSERT INTO note_item(note_fk, item_text) VALUES(?, ?); Feb 04 04:15:04 sorry for pasting code Feb 04 04:15:07 i will use pastebin Feb 04 04:15:28 http://pastebin.com/hPvMFMXg Feb 04 04:16:28 tad a!! yeah, i should have known the kiss method would work - always does :) Thanks again !! Feb 04 04:17:43 any idea why i am getting that exception? Feb 04 04:27:39 well I'm new, and I wish I could help you, but I haven't even started to code yet. Still configuring eclipse Feb 04 04:47:38 how does one get understanding on how to use a class from the android API..it does not tell me how to create this class Feb 04 04:48:06 calling new (); doesnt work Feb 04 04:53:45 Anyone care to look at this? It's the output from building the project, uploading, and running ndk-gdb on the process. When the app crashes (induced) the wrong line is reported in gdb. https://github.com/Starlon/AndroidGDBBug/blob/master/output.txt Feb 04 04:54:25 Feel free to try for yourself; that's why I made a git repo out of it. Feb 04 05:53:29 hey I need some help with intent filters for opening a url in an app. I've got it working for just host but whenever I add the android:path parameter it just doesn't work :/ Feb 04 05:57:03 my intent filter looks like this Feb 04 05:57:03 https://gist.github.com/1735716 Feb 04 06:00:01 hi Feb 04 06:00:17 I was trying to use adb but it doesn't really work: http://fpaste.org/sGUN/ Feb 04 06:00:26 does someone have an idea what is going wrong/what I need to do from here? Feb 04 06:06:37 DallaRosa: put a '/' prefix on your paths Feb 04 06:07:40 I think it needs it in intent filters. I just checked one of my projects that captures http urls, and I have used paths with a leading / Feb 04 06:14:18 satori99: hey! thanks! Feb 04 06:14:25 that works Feb 04 06:14:29 worked Feb 04 06:28:21 Hi all,i'm passing JSON in android to another webservice.Is there any way to verify the parameters that i'm actually passing over in android? Feb 04 06:28:38 To verify that its actually passing in JSON Feb 04 06:53:29 is there any way of checking what values are passed actually in a android webservice in JSON? Feb 04 07:05:49 I feel like you're just throwing in keywords trying to explain what you want... Feb 04 07:06:09 you want to check what values are being sent from the android device to a webservice on another server? Feb 04 07:07:56 Yeah,i need to deserialize the JSON string passed Feb 04 07:08:12 so... do that Feb 04 07:08:37 deserialize it on what end? Feb 04 07:08:54 not that it makes a difference Feb 04 07:09:49 i might offer a reward for fixing bugs Feb 04 07:09:51 what's a good amount? Feb 04 07:10:02 1.21 JiggaWatts! Feb 04 07:10:29 like cash reward or like SO Bounty? Feb 04 07:11:47 cash Feb 04 07:12:26 guess I could define a different amount for each Feb 04 07:12:32 based on estimated complexity Feb 04 07:12:44 Getting down to srs biznesssss Feb 04 07:13:08 this for fixing bugs in ABS and your other projects? Feb 04 07:13:51 just ABS Feb 04 07:13:57 i need to get 4.0 RC1 out the door Feb 04 07:16:57 I'm trying to draw incrementing numbers on my camera preview .. similar to this article http://imrannazar.com/Augmented-Reality-with-the-Android-NDK:-Part-1 ... But for some reason the numbers are displayed on top of each other ! Feb 04 07:17:22 the canvas is not cleaned after each number is displayed Feb 04 07:23:11 wow, alarm manager + intent service rocks Feb 04 07:23:43 well,deserialize it on a C# webservice Feb 04 07:24:01 Hey, I know you you shouldn't have the Constructor of subclass of Activity with parameters Feb 04 07:24:05 but I don't know why Feb 04 07:24:36 I've been asked why putting parameters wouldn't let the activity start but I just don't know how to answer that Feb 04 07:27:27 I'm checking the class'　source but I can't really see anything Feb 04 07:28:22 ya and i know.... i knowwwwwwwww because of KRS 1 Feb 04 07:28:57 be a producer! Feb 04 07:32:39 ViewPager shows the left/right hints when you reach the end automatically right? Feb 04 07:33:19 found the answer to my question http://stackoverflow.com/a/6995087/452430 Feb 04 07:34:28 ah Feb 04 07:34:29 nevermind Feb 04 07:34:33 <-- idiot Feb 04 07:38:55 right.. is there a way in eclipse to actually resolve git conflicts? Feb 04 07:58:52 is anyone up in here?? Feb 04 07:59:00 need some feedback Feb 04 07:59:03 hello, I'm working with alertDialogs and when calling finish(); from the dialog onClickListener method, the activity exits but then the program force closes saying "did not call through super.OnDestroy();" Feb 04 07:59:12 not quite sure how to solve this Feb 04 08:00:02 dlaroche, on what? Feb 04 08:00:34 What is the best way to send mouse commands over wifi?? For instance, do you just use an Enum system, or would you send a Serialized object over wifi? Feb 04 08:00:39 nevermind, I figured it out Feb 04 08:00:40 thanks Feb 04 08:01:43 Right now I am using java.io for both the client and server Feb 04 08:02:26 I am using a Serialized object which is a very simple object that has a few integer fields to hold the mouse x,y position Feb 04 08:03:15 sorry that's way beyond my thinking level at 3am Feb 04 08:03:20 going to bed Feb 04 08:03:21 night Feb 04 08:03:45 The communication is great, except for the fact that some how I keep getting corrupt data in on the server side where my Y variable starts climbing in to the 40K-50K range while it's throwing errors Feb 04 08:04:01 good night Feb 04 08:04:38 I will check out the Java channel as this is probably more a pure Java implementation question if anything Feb 04 08:20:06 do i need to rephrase the question?? Feb 04 08:20:35 surely somebody has some input on network IO Feb 04 08:21:18 does anybody have experience with ObjectStream's?? Feb 04 08:23:04 I can sit here all night, and keep asking my question Feb 04 08:23:18 Ravensoul: you looking for help? Feb 04 08:23:47 Anyone has experience in android webservices in JSON? Feb 04 08:23:58 yes Feb 04 08:24:25 no i don't dlaroche Feb 04 08:24:34 i'm doing JSON webservice where i have to pass user/password,and return the result of the database query Feb 04 08:24:36 good maybe you can help me with mine then Feb 04 08:25:04 Zenix11: are u connecting with your own server? Feb 04 08:25:10 yes,i'm hosting it in IIS Feb 04 08:25:21 <-Shakes is head Feb 04 08:25:23 ok Feb 04 08:25:36 so what is your specific question related to this? Feb 04 08:26:42 since its passing in username and password in JSON,i'm wondering whether i need to specify 2 parameters in my webservice Feb 04 08:27:22 explain further, the 2 parameters, what do you mean? you do want to get the both of them in the same request Feb 04 08:27:59 yeah,i would need both parameters in 1 request Feb 04 08:28:22 are you asking how to do this, or something else? Feb 04 08:28:33 just trying to understand you here so we are on the same page Feb 04 08:28:47 I'm bored and want to help Feb 04 08:29:55 i'm asking about whether its fine to pass in only 1 string in JSON for username/password to my webservice Feb 04 08:30:13 and at the other end,deserialize that only string Feb 04 08:30:24 and return a int result Feb 04 08:30:43 Zenix11: yeah that is fine, it would work, but think about it like this Feb 04 08:31:12 uhhuh Feb 04 08:31:15 first you are putting extra load on the server, by making it decode the string Feb 04 08:31:33 JSON is setup to send multiple data items, so use it Feb 04 08:31:59 so i should actually send 2 different parameters instead? Feb 04 08:32:02 then you can get your variables from the incoming JSON Feb 04 08:32:06 I would Feb 04 08:32:21 JSON can handle it fine, and was designed to do so Feb 04 08:32:27 Alright Feb 04 08:32:30 also Feb 04 08:32:39 you can't just return an int Feb 04 08:32:48 do you know why? Feb 04 08:33:17 hmm..no idea Feb 04 08:34:11 since this is probably related to a login scheme, I'm assuming, then you what happens if say.....a hacker comes along Feb 04 08:34:40 I'm tripping up the error at http://androidxref.com/source/xref/dalvik/vm/reflect/Proxy.cpp#975 - "null result when primitive expected" NPE when calling bindService - has anyone else gotten this? BT: http://pastebin.com/6NNyfCQp Feb 04 08:34:55 HashMap.put itself is erroring out... Feb 04 08:35:01 all he has to do is intercept the network traffic and inject a packet back to your app with either a 0 or 1 to indicate an authenticated login Feb 04 08:35:28 vadi2: i'm the only one awake in here helping people so hold on, I will get to you Feb 04 08:35:40 okay, thanks Feb 04 08:36:03 vadi2: is the JNI related?? Feb 04 08:36:21 yeah,there would be security issues Feb 04 08:36:25 Zenix11: are you understanding Feb 04 08:36:29 ok Feb 04 08:36:37 Well, the error is coming out deep from within it, yes Feb 04 08:36:37 so what you need to do is....this Feb 04 08:36:45 Only http://androidxref.com/source/xref/dalvik/vm/reflect/Proxy.cpp#975 raises that particular msg Feb 04 08:36:52 vadi2: but your aren't working in JNI Feb 04 08:37:11 Okay, well, dalvik vm Feb 04 08:37:23 Oh Feb 04 08:37:28 Sorry, I am working with JNI Feb 04 08:37:47 The objects I'm passing to bindService are made with JNI's assistance Feb 04 08:38:05 but since i can't pass an int,would a string be fine? Feb 04 08:39:19 Zenix: no, you don't want to pass nothing to the server unencrypted or pass nothing back unencrypted Feb 04 08:39:45 so i should just encrypt it with something to be secure Feb 04 08:40:07 since this involves authentication you will want to encrypt everything. I was trying to find some good articles for you on Google pertaining to this, but you will have to search it yourselft Feb 04 08:40:14 Sure Feb 04 08:40:16 You should be good to go on the right track though Feb 04 08:40:21 Would passing in something like {"password":"test","username":"tester"} be considered 2 parameters? Feb 04 08:40:29 yes Feb 04 08:40:53 vadi2: explain further please! Feb 04 08:41:15 that's what i'm passing after i checked,so i suppose the problem's actually on the other end Feb 04 08:42:24 zenix: since i'm really bored, do a pastbin.com of the code you got, and I will look through it. Looks like vadi2 stopped responding so I can continue to help you. Feb 04 08:42:35 Well, http://pastebin.com/wSW0xJRE is what I do Feb 04 08:42:48 oppps.... Feb 04 08:42:48 And it crashes deep in bindService: http://pastebin.com/6NNyfCQp Feb 04 08:42:49 ok Feb 04 08:43:09 The objects get initialized properly, I'm fairly certain Feb 04 08:43:35 Hmm alright Feb 04 08:43:52 vadi2: sorry bro, but I don't mess with JNI yet... Feb 04 08:44:14 I'll wait then Feb 04 08:44:25 I'm strictly Java, and web languages, besides some C++, Visual Basic, yada yada Feb 04 08:44:43 but I'm not familiar with JNI Feb 04 08:45:05 it has it's own way of doing things, even though it is C Feb 04 08:45:06 Why do you suspect it's the JNI? Feb 04 08:45:24 Pastebin's here http://pastebin.com/Ue0DgfMZ Feb 04 08:45:52 I don't, but since you are trying to interface with JNI, from the looks of it, I don't know it Feb 04 08:46:36 Not really sure i'm doing it correctly,but i hope so Feb 04 08:46:52 Zenix11: where do your userID and password variable get initialized?? Feb 04 08:47:20 Inside onCreate Feb 04 08:50:08 Zenix11: i have spotted a few miss understandings that you have on the way you are passing things with JSON. Google "android json authentication example" and start reading. It appears that your flow logic on how things should be processed is right, but you need to take a closer look at how you are putting together your JSON object before it is sent Feb 04 08:50:30 Hmm alright,thanks a lot Feb 04 08:51:15 Zenix11: Android doesn't have any packages that really make JSON easy Feb 04 08:51:38 Yeah,but i'll try Feb 04 08:51:40 but there are external libraries that are worth looking into that do make it easier Feb 04 08:52:17 you are trying to re-invent the wheel Feb 04 08:52:42 You don't even have error handling implemented, and there is a lot when dealing with network IO Feb 04 08:53:14 it should be in async task too Feb 04 08:53:40 Zenix11: if you understand on how to implement other libraries then you should check out this one Feb 04 08:53:41 http://code.google.com/p/android-json-rpc/ Feb 04 08:54:00 yes, java IO task normally do what is called blocking Feb 04 08:54:17 which halts the flow of execution until it receives a response back Feb 04 08:54:56 it would..hang the application even probably Feb 04 08:55:49 oh yeah Feb 04 08:55:52 definetly Feb 04 08:56:06 yeah,i was only trying to get it work and fix it later Feb 04 08:56:47 i am working on something similiar with java io, but with a client/server implementation so I am pretty up to this Feb 04 08:57:01 Zenix11: wrong approach buddy Feb 04 08:57:54 take everything a step at a time, and remember that java is OOP, so everything is pretty much all "plug and play modules" Feb 04 08:58:16 i meant,getting the correct values returned by testing,and moving all code to background tasks Feb 04 08:58:22 i would recommend reading up first on how network authentication happens, and the security behind it Feb 04 08:58:36 then read up on the JSON library link I sent you Feb 04 08:58:41 it should all come to you then Feb 04 08:59:11 put your project aside for a few hours, and read up the suggested material Feb 04 08:59:21 hmm alright,i'll do that then Feb 04 08:59:26 Zenix: it doesn't work like taht Feb 04 08:59:47 you might get aways with sending one packet with out using threads/asynctask Feb 04 09:00:14 you have to program it solid foundation from the ground up when dealing with IO Feb 04 09:00:38 I have discovered that, and am struggling on passing objects over the network now Feb 04 09:00:42 grrrrrr Feb 04 09:01:19 but nobody is awake in here to help me with it, so I thought I would just be an example and start helping others Feb 04 09:01:31 Hmm okay Feb 04 09:01:58 Say I'm a lazy bastard who's tired (and fed up) with all the different languages, and only wants to use one language or framework to be able to develop for as many devices as possible..... it seems there are quite a few options then. Like Qt, J2ME Polish, LWUIT....... and most likely many others... Feb 04 09:02:26 Any particular solution that (in your opinion) stands out, and is the only logical obvious choice? Feb 04 09:03:04 JAVA!!!???!!!! Feb 04 09:03:16 you program once, and the JVM handles the rest Feb 04 09:03:29 Android doesn't run java Feb 04 09:03:37 lol Feb 04 09:03:38 nor j2me Feb 04 09:03:46 explain how it doesn't run java????? Feb 04 09:05:14 so you are saying i can't program an app in Java and it not run on an Android powered device mr_lou???? Feb 04 09:05:19 I want to hear this Feb 04 09:05:21 It is true that you use the Java language to code. But technically (and legally) you can't say Android runs java. Too lazy to discuss that. For now let's just settle for the fact that you use a ton of Google specific classes to develop for Android. Therefor, whatever you dev for Android will not run anywhere else. Feb 04 09:06:10 but it does include some default Java languages, and does get converted to a byte code from my understanding on run time Feb 04 09:06:37 but i don understand the last part Feb 04 09:06:41 I want to "write once, run anywhere".... run on J2ME, Symbian, Windoze Phone 7, Android, iPhone... in other words, some SDK that let's me code using only one language, and compiles into binaries for lots of platforms. Feb 04 09:07:02 or use phonegap, and use javascript Feb 04 09:07:15 mr_lou: i have been kinda following some development like this, but nothing promising yet Feb 04 09:07:41 satori99: but then again you can't run on pc's, or other devices Feb 04 09:07:53 Phonegap claims support for 7 platforms, uses html5 and js, but I have never used it Feb 04 09:07:56 True, unless the SDK / Framework also compiles into that platform. Feb 04 09:07:59 *for Feb 04 09:08:38 I learned J2ME because it was the language that ran on most platforms. Then comes Google and Apple and messes everything up for me. Feb 04 09:08:45 satori99: i have looked into it, but it very limited on it's ability. Right now development tools like that are focused towards making simple business front apps, and such Feb 04 09:09:08 Have been looking at some Android coding, and even coded a few abstraction classes so that I can stick with my J2ME coding style. Feb 04 09:09:11 i have exp with it at all. Feb 04 09:09:33 ^no Feb 04 09:09:46 This here is interesting for porting J2ME to Android. http://www.assembla.com/spaces/j2ab/wiki Feb 04 09:09:50 But I'd like more than that. Feb 04 09:09:50 mr_lou: why would u do such a thing Feb 04 09:10:23 dlaroche, Coz I'm lazy. I wanna support more than just J2ME devices, but too lazy to port my J2ME stuff for e.g. Android and Windoze Phone 7 and iPhone. Feb 04 09:11:25 mr_lou: I just jumped in the realm of mobile device programming, but I have learned your frustration, and know what a pain everything is Feb 04 09:11:31 Code once using J2ME, and compile to those platforms would be nice. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever why Android can't run J2ME. Well... the reason is of course that Google won't pay Oracle for the license. All other smartphones (except iPhone) can run J2ME. Feb 04 09:12:04 I do understand Google's decision though. Feb 04 09:12:34 Waiting for MIDP evolution is really something that seriously tested everyones patience. Feb 04 09:12:52 i think it had a lot to do with them wanting to tie their low level stuff to a familiar language Feb 04 09:12:59 nah Feb 04 09:13:17 They just wanted to avoid need approval from anyone else, when they wanted to implement extra features. Feb 04 09:13:18 It's clever. Feb 04 09:13:58 never thought of it like that Feb 04 09:15:12 That's also the only good part about it. Feb 04 09:15:32 Android developers all over the world don't have to wait like J2ME developers have done for ages, when they crave for new features. Feb 04 09:16:00 Heh... since when? There are so many android devices running old versions. Feb 04 09:16:28 Still... for lazy coders like me, I'm honestly surprised there still doesn't seem to be any tools to directly port J2ME bytecode to Android bytecode.... simply convert a JAR to APK. Feb 04 09:16:58 Maybe that's too hardcore. But then at least some tool that can compile J2ME source code directly into Android APK. Feb 04 09:17:15 Of course it can be done. Feb 04 09:18:02 vadi2, I mean J2ME developers would have to wait years before some suggested new feature of the next version of MIDP was approved by all parties. Not so with Android. Feb 04 09:19:01 Yes, that's certainly true - I've read what Google wrote themselves that they couldn't accept the slow pace Feb 04 09:19:11 I think on their defence of creating Dalvik Feb 04 09:19:45 Yea, that's why they went that way. Feb 04 09:20:34 And that's ok. I understand that. It's just annoying for J2ME devs like me that my (much simpler J2ME stuff compared with Android) stuff can't just run on Android devices. Feb 04 09:21:40 I'd look about, I've seen some similarly-looking games in the market. Maybe people ported some things and put up tips Feb 04 09:21:55 hi ... someone could tell me why the icon on notification bar when a nitification intent is sent is not resized anymore ? Feb 04 09:22:39 vadi2, I have a feeling I'll just end up paying people to port my stuff. Feb 04 09:22:44 vadi2, I'm that lazy! :-> Feb 04 09:25:00 as long as it still brings in a profit! Feb 04 09:25:54 is it possible to apply a theme for a fragment only? Feb 04 09:28:57 hi i've installed android sdk and eclipse but i'm having difficulty in configuring them. please help me Feb 04 09:32:36 hey guys, I'm getting "R cannot be resolved to a variable" in eclipse. I've googled this, and deleted my line that imported android R, but the error is still shown. How do I fix this? Feb 04 09:33:54 this is the exact problem I have, except deleting the line for importing android R isn't fixing it: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/885009/r-cannot-be-resolved-android-error Feb 04 09:35:59 hi i've installed android sdk and eclipse but i'm having difficulty in configuring them. please help me Feb 04 09:36:26 arunkumar: what's the problem with the android sdk and eclipse? Feb 04 09:36:39 are you trying to add the android ADT to eclipse? Feb 04 09:37:45 arunkumar413: ^ Feb 04 09:38:10 Snuupy: yes Feb 04 09:38:16 Snuupy: look in your XML files to see if there is any error....a lot of the times Eclipse struggles with spotting and keeping up with errors associated with your XML files Feb 04 09:38:30 thanks dlaroche, I'll take a look Feb 04 09:38:38 sometimes it wont even let you know there is an error with them Feb 04 09:38:41 arunkumar413: okay, go to help-->install new software Feb 04 09:39:18 Snuupy: ok Feb 04 09:39:21 arunkumar413: read this: http://developer.android.com/sdk/eclipse-adt.html Feb 04 09:39:30 arunkumar413: the generated R file has nothing to do with what you are suggesting. It might help it from happening again in the future but it won't fix his current problem Feb 04 09:39:32 if you don't understand anything on that page msg me Feb 04 09:39:57 I just started doing this today, but I'll try to help (: Feb 04 09:40:03 Snuupy: yeah i've gone through that. I'm getting an error Feb 04 09:41:02 Does anyone have experience with sending serialized objects over sockets/network? Feb 04 09:41:19 arunkumar413: what's the error? Feb 04 09:41:27 Snuupy: this is error i'm getting http://pastebin.com/dWcZ8Y10 Feb 04 09:41:48 are you sure you installed the sdk? Feb 04 09:42:00 looks like you Feb 04 09:42:04 need the sdk tools or something Feb 04 09:42:07 exactly Feb 04 09:42:13 that's what i was going to suggest Feb 04 09:42:22 Snuupy: i downloaded the sdk and unzipped it Feb 04 09:42:24 your SDK directory is probably wrong or not setup Feb 04 09:42:25 I'd run sdk manager Feb 04 09:42:43 you have to tell Eclipse where to find the SDK Feb 04 09:43:09 dlaroche: how to tell eclipse Feb 04 09:43:10 haha, try looking at thenewboston's youtube videos Feb 04 09:43:22 he explains it there - that's what I'm following Feb 04 09:43:30 Snuppy: they are excellent tuts for beginners Feb 04 09:43:38 good :D Feb 04 09:43:42 i will find it Feb 04 09:43:52 youtube it Feb 04 09:44:59 http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2F07DBCDCC01493A&feature=plcp Feb 04 09:45:24 oh wow, started a new project and the error's gone! Feb 04 09:45:27 start with tut 1 and go through to about 3-4 to ensure everything is configured, and installed correctl Feb 04 09:45:32 ^correctly Feb 04 09:45:40 lol Feb 04 09:45:42 dlaroche: yeah, had to view them like 3 times on one vid xD Feb 04 09:45:44 he was going fast Feb 04 09:45:51 yeah he does Feb 04 09:46:06 but I learned all my knowledge from reading tuts Feb 04 09:46:21 cool Feb 04 09:46:29 I'm trying to cram learning app development Feb 04 09:46:32 then I usaually fall asleep watiching Android development videos now Feb 04 09:46:41 I just gotta make an app that has two functions Feb 04 09:46:52 yeah I'm new to mobile device programming too Feb 04 09:46:58 explain?? Feb 04 09:47:04 uhh Feb 04 09:47:11 so there's this new blackberry playbook promotion Feb 04 09:47:23 if you're a dev, you could qualify for a free playbook Feb 04 09:47:36 http://us.blackberry.com/developers/tablet/playbook_offer2012.jsp Feb 04 09:47:42 i'm not familar with blackberry development Feb 04 09:47:47 Snuupy: those tutorials are for mac Feb 04 09:47:54 arunkumar413: same for windows, or almost the same Feb 04 09:48:14 yeapers Feb 04 09:48:15 Snuupy: i use linux Feb 04 09:48:16 dlaroche: you program an android app then convert it to the playbook app Feb 04 09:48:25 arunkumar413: oh...haven`t touched linux much Feb 04 09:48:29 sorry Feb 04 09:48:34 Eclipes was programmed in Java so it will function and look almost the same on any OS Feb 04 09:48:58 dlaroche: then if it qualifies under the TOS, you get a PB Feb 04 09:49:12 what is a PB Feb 04 09:49:20 free marketing?? Feb 04 09:49:47 blackberry playbook Feb 04 09:50:00 uhh, they want devs for developing PB applications I guess Feb 04 09:50:17 I think that's why they're giving out playbooks to developers Feb 04 09:50:19 hmmmm....it's all new to me....like i said im new to mobile device programming. Android is my first OS Feb 04 09:50:39 yeah, same here Feb 04 09:50:48 like I said earlier, started today xD Feb 04 09:50:58 but I know java - from the console in class Feb 04 09:51:05 i make about $400-500/month right now with just two apps Feb 04 09:51:07 I just don't know much about android dev Feb 04 09:51:12 dlaroche: nice, which two apps? Feb 04 09:51:41 Free Field Caller - Deer Calls, and Free Field Caller - Elk Calls Feb 04 09:52:03 they are hunting apps that make animal calls Feb 04 09:52:08 lol nice Feb 04 09:52:10 paid? Feb 04 09:52:26 yes, but i don't get nothing on the paid versions Feb 04 09:52:32 oh, ads then? Feb 04 09:52:34 i make all my money on the ads on the free ones Feb 04 09:52:50 haha nice Feb 04 09:53:01 mainly push notifications which i hate, but they bring the money in right now Feb 04 09:53:36 i'm working on one now that will interface your Android tablet with Photoshop, and allow you to do all kinds of cool things Feb 04 09:54:39 cool Feb 04 09:55:07 that one should bring in mass amounts of paid version income.... Feb 04 09:55:40 lol that's true Feb 04 09:55:55 I like HTML > XML Feb 04 09:56:04 a lot of the features will be locked out on the free one, but you can either unlock features with in-app purchase, or getting the paid version which I think I will set at $4.99 Feb 04 09:56:04 but maybe that's because XML is super new to me Feb 04 09:56:20 dlaroche: adsense for in app ads? Feb 04 09:56:34 they are the same syntax, just different element names Feb 04 09:56:41 lol...HELL NO Feb 04 09:57:13 adsense is the most reliable in my opinion, but pay like 75% less then other ad providers Feb 04 09:57:34 lol, what ad network are you using? Feb 04 09:57:37 I'm using a combination of Double Click for Publishers, Airpush, and Leadbolt Feb 04 09:57:51