**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 24 02:59:59 2012
Mar 24 03:00:02 <HacDan> it looks like the green wave is filling the screen width wise
Mar 24 03:00:10 <HacDan> at least in the screen shot it shows it filling
Mar 24 03:00:15 <HacDan> it's the background that doesn't fill
Mar 24 03:00:39 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Ok, so any idea why the background isn't then?
Mar 24 03:00:55 <T-Dub|DlolPics> And why isn't my other ImageViews now starting at 0,0 cord then?
Mar 24 03:01:01 <T-Dub|DlolPics> They should be a few pixels to the left as well
Mar 24 03:01:10 <T-Dub|DlolPics> I haven't modified their location yet.
Mar 24 03:01:41 <T-Dub|DlolPics> not* not now. And actually now that I think about it those images might have a few transparent pixels around them so ignore those last messages.
Mar 24 03:02:14 <SimonVT> Yeah, so.. I suppose your screen is 480x800.. Subtract the title bar and notification bar, then you have say 740 for your content.. So the background is scaled to 740 height, and 4XX width (since it keeps aspect ratio)
Mar 24 03:02:49 <SimonVT> Thus, it doesn't match width
Mar 24 03:03:19 <JesusFreke> try android:scaleType="fitXY"
Mar 24 03:03:51 <SimonVT> You should account for not knowing the screen size anyway. You don't know the screensize/aspect ratio of the user, so gotta apply the right scaletype for your case
Mar 24 03:03:52 <JesusFreke> or, why not use green_wave as the background?
Mar 24 03:04:10 <JesusFreke> (in the relative_layout)
Mar 24 03:04:40 <JesusFreke> or whichever is the green background thing
Mar 24 03:04:49 <T-Dub|DlolPics> That fixed it JesusFreke
Mar 24 03:05:06 <T-Dub|DlolPics> What exactly does that do? Was what SimonVT just said the reason why it was freaking out?
Mar 24 03:05:12 <JesusFreke> T-Dub|DlolPics: yes
Mar 24 03:05:17 <JesusFreke> and that is the fix
Mar 24 03:05:24 <HacDan> T-Dub|DlolPics: it's not freaking out. It is a cmoputer. And it only does what you tell it to.
Mar 24 03:05:26 <HacDan> ;)
Mar 24 03:05:39 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Lol. Very trye HacDan.
Mar 24 03:05:40 <JesusFreke> without that, it keeps the aspect ratio constant. with it, it will stretch the image to fill
Mar 24 03:05:45 <T-Dub|DlolPics> However the easy way out is to blame it.
Mar 24 03:05:49 <SimonVT> T-Dub|DlolPics: Look up the ScaleType class in the docs
Mar 24 03:05:54 <SimonVT> It'll explain the different types
Mar 24 03:07:30 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Hmm, by what the docs say why not use android:scaleType="fitStart"
Mar 24 03:07:43 <T-Dub|DlolPics> It says that keeps the ratio correct but still fits it to the screen?
Mar 24 03:08:12 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Oh nvm
Mar 24 03:08:13 <T-Dub|DlolPics> t least one axis (X or Y) will fit exactly
Mar 24 03:08:21 <T-Dub|DlolPics> at*
Mar 24 03:12:36 <b0nn> hm, eclipse won't compile my code, it says there is an error, which is fine, except I cannot see where the error might be, how do I troubleshoot it?
Mar 24 03:12:53 <HacDan> b0nn: check down near the bottom
Mar 24 03:12:56 <HacDan> there's a tab called errors
Mar 24 03:13:06 <HacDan> it should give you the error and line number if applicable
Mar 24 03:13:26 <b0nn> ok
Mar 24 03:13:34 <b0nn> how do I clear the old errors?
Mar 24 03:13:40 <HacDan> those aren't old errors
Mar 24 03:13:42 <HacDan> those are current errors
Mar 24 03:13:52 <b0nn> 100 of 263 items?
Mar 24 03:13:59 <HacDan> possibly?
Mar 24 03:14:08 <HacDan> and the tab is called 'Problems' my mistake
Mar 24 03:14:16 <SimonVT> Check the Console tab if it mentions any xml errors
Mar 24 03:14:38 <Snuupy> ohai
Mar 24 03:14:45 <b0nn> a lot of 'Mat cannot be resolved to a type'
Mar 24 03:14:54 <b0nn> Console is clear
Mar 24 03:15:22 <b0nn> oh the problems are for other applications :|
Mar 24 03:15:58 <maxagaz> for some reason, my app is requesting the debugger... how to stop this ?
Mar 24 03:16:20 <HacDan> give it a debugger! feed it!
Mar 24 03:18:21 <maxagaz> HacDan: seriously, I nerver had this behaviour before
Mar 24 03:19:03 <HacDan> maxagaz: sounds like your running w/ a debug option. Are you using eclipse by chance?
Mar 24 03:19:30 <maxagaz> HacDan: yes... seems I have to reboot the phone to fix it
Mar 24 03:19:40 <l0rdkadaj> use the run option, or.... just get rid of the debug break points
Mar 24 03:19:56 <HacDan> wait so you're debugging it, and wondering why it wants to talk to the debugger?
Mar 24 03:20:09 <b0nn> Description	Resource	Path	Location	Type
Mar 24 03:20:10 <b0nn> Error generating final archive: Debug Certificate expired on 22/02/12 6:20 PM	Egg Timer		Unknown	Android Packaging Problem
Mar 24 03:20:17 <b0nn> oops
Mar 24 03:20:37 <maxagaz> indeed, rebooting the phone solved it
Mar 24 03:23:06 <b0nn> heh mv ~/.android/debug.keystore ~/ fixed that, and it's compiled :)
Mar 24 03:24:00 <HacDan> b0nn: that's actually a know problem, or at least it was. I still run into it, but my build tools are a bit outdated
Mar 24 03:29:54 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Is android:paddingBottom for example the only way to "move" or place an ImageView where ever you want? I would much rather use layout_paddingBottom or something, but it isn't letting me.
Mar 24 03:30:30 <T-Dub|DlolPics> And it appears that when I create padding it isn't actually moving my imageView, it's just making it smaller, its squishing in blank pixels and resizing my image
Mar 24 03:32:32 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Oh I see because I'm doing dp for the width, so it thinks I don't want to go beyond those pixels. That's cool but annoying.
Mar 24 03:33:45 <T-Dub|DlolPics> height* but w\e
Mar 24 03:49:20 <b0nn> so, my code http://pastebin.com/xsvDnLRf I want the text in the textview to be updated when I click a button. The textview is updated when the app loads (ie. it is 00:00:00 in the code but once the app loads it is 'Hi') BUT not after that
Mar 24 03:49:39 <b0nn> ie. the button clicks are having no effect
Mar 24 03:51:47 <rdonx> and how are you registering the onclick method
Mar 24 03:54:59 <T-Dub|DlolPics> If you are going to just "create" the onClick method you must add a listener
Mar 24 03:55:10 <T-Dub|DlolPics> aka, either do button.setOnClickListener
Mar 24 03:55:16 <b0nn> yeah, sorry, the example code I HAD DIDN'T MAKE THAT CLEAR
Mar 24 03:55:35 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Or by the way you have it currently, do implements
Mar 24 03:55:40 <pragma_> I sometimes have BEEN KNOWN to have trouble CONTROLLING the volume OF MY VOICE
Mar 24 03:55:43 <T-Dub|DlolPics> I think implements View.OnClickListener?
Mar 24 03:55:45 <rdonx> in the XML file for the button properties add android:onClick="onClick"
Mar 24 03:55:46 <b0nn> implements means do it once, right?
Mar 24 03:56:02 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Yeah
Mar 24 03:56:08 <b0nn> ok, I'm getting a bit confused
Mar 24 03:56:09 <T-Dub|DlolPics> rdonx can you explain yours
Mar 24 03:56:17 <b0nn> ^
Mar 24 03:56:22 <T-Dub|DlolPics> I'm new and I would like to know more about setting it up in the xml :o
Mar 24 03:56:46 <T-Dub|DlolPics> does that just mean "onclick as in the listener do "this method" "
Mar 24 03:57:16 <rdonx> yes
Mar 24 03:57:25 <T-Dub|DlolPics> So like if you did android:onClick="sup", any time the onclick listener sees a click it will do the method public void test(){
Mar 24 03:57:54 <rdonx> no, it'd do public void sup(View view)
Mar 24 03:58:08 <T-Dub|DlolPics> oh crap I did put test haha
Mar 24 03:58:13 <T-Dub|DlolPics> and forgot it passes a view
Mar 24 03:58:15 <T-Dub|DlolPics> but I ment that
Mar 24 03:58:25 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Awesome, didn't know that
Mar 24 03:58:25 <rdonx> b0nn
Mar 24 03:58:28 <rdonx> Open up R.layout.main
Mar 24 03:58:41 <rdonx>  /res/layout/main.xml
Mar 24 03:58:48 <b0nn> in the main.xml I put
Mar 24 03:59:09 <b0nn> <Button  android:id="@+id/sevenbutton" android:text="7" android:onClick="onClick" android:layout_width="wrap_content" android:layout_height="wrap_content" />
Mar 24 03:59:18 <rdonx> yes
Mar 24 03:59:19 <bonta768> env: ubuntu 11.10 x86_64, Eclipse 3.7.2, sun-jdk, ADT 17. prob: When I try to use ADT wizard to output a signed apk for publishing, it hangs. Anyone known how to fix?
Mar 24 03:59:47 <b0nn> but it says "no resource identifier found for the attribute "OnClick"
Mar 24 03:59:52 <T-Dub|DlolPics> rdonx, do you still need to implement the setOnClickListener?
Mar 24 03:59:57 <T-Dub|DlolPics> And or import anything?
Mar 24 04:00:02 <rdonx> lowercase onClick
Mar 24 04:00:15 <rdonx> lowercase o in onClick
Mar 24 04:00:39 <b0nn> oh, yeah that was my typing into IRC
Mar 24 04:01:10 <rdonx> What's your target android platform?
Mar 24 04:01:12 <rdonx> 1.5?
Mar 24 04:01:16 <b0nn> yeah
Mar 24 04:01:24 <rdonx> That was added in 1.6
Mar 24 04:01:27 <dandaman1> how do i set up a phone call?
Mar 24 04:01:33 <dandaman1> intent = new Intent(android.content.Intent.ACTION_CALL,Uri.parse(phoneString));
Mar 24 04:01:33 <dandaman1> 				page.startActivity(intent);
Mar 24 04:01:38 <b0nn> oh
Mar 24 04:01:41 <dandaman1> is throwing an activity not found exception
Mar 24 04:01:44 <b0nn> I'll switch to 1.6
Mar 24 04:02:17 <rdonx> On 1.5 you have to do it via Java code
Mar 24 04:02:28 <b0nn> ok
Mar 24 04:02:53 <b0nn> hm, what's best, switch to >1.5 or java code it
Mar 24 04:03:32 <rdonx> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6358354/registering-listener-in-java-android-a-little-question
Mar 24 04:04:24 <rdonx> look at the first reply
Mar 24 04:04:56 <rdonx> or second one
Mar 24 04:05:18 <rdonx> There's two ways to do it in Java - one of them is to create an anonymous function - but it looks ugly if you have a lot of if cases
Mar 24 04:05:29 <rdonx> the other way is to have your class implement the interface
Mar 24 04:10:03 <b0nn> button1 = (Button) findViewById(R.id.btn1);
Mar 24 04:10:09 <b0nn> that should be String button1 = (Button) findViewById(R.id.btn1);
Mar 24 04:10:12 <b0nn> right?
Mar 24 04:11:30 <rdonx> no
Mar 24 04:12:21 <rdonx> In the XML file you named your graphical interface widgets/views by giving them ids
Mar 24 04:12:26 <T-Dub|DlolPics> It should be Button var = (Button)findViewById(R.id.button);
Mar 24 04:12:31 <rdonx> yes
Mar 24 04:12:37 <rdonx> well btn1 or whatever his button ID is
Mar 24 04:12:42 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Yeah
Mar 24 04:12:42 <b0nn> yeah
Mar 24 04:12:57 <b0nn> it's a bit hard when you don't know the type the code is implying
Mar 24 04:13:15 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Then you do var.setOnClickListener(this); assuming you implement the listener
Mar 24 04:13:42 <T-Dub|DlolPics> then @override public void onClick(View v){ switch case or w\e }
Mar 24 04:14:07 <b0nn> shit
Mar 24 04:14:11 <b0nn> this is becoming a mess
Mar 24 04:14:26 <T-Dub|DlolPics> It's exactly like example 3.
Mar 24 04:14:35 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Although what rdox suggestion, using the xml is awesome
Mar 24 04:14:42 <T-Dub|DlolPics> suggested*
Mar 24 04:14:44 <b0nn> yeah, tell that to my eclipse that decided to go nuts on me
Mar 24 04:17:36 <b0nn> for some reason it can't see the xml now
Mar 24 04:17:41 <b0nn> crikey
Mar 24 04:19:53 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Is your R.Java still there
Mar 24 04:19:59 <T-Dub|DlolPics> That seems to be my biggest problem I get.
Mar 24 04:22:49 <b0nn> hm
Mar 24 04:22:56 <b0nn> where would the R.java be :)
Mar 24 04:23:16 <T-Dub|DlolPics> In gen -> package
Mar 24 04:23:36 <b0nn> hm, it's there
Mar 24 04:24:09 <NatureTM> hi.  I have a widget that calls a one-shot service using AlarmManager to get data from the network say every 30 minutes.  If the service detects the network is down (testing ConnectivityManager), I'd like to have it get called every minute until the network is up again, and resume 30 min polling.  Is there a way to change the alarm interval from within the service that the alarm calls?
Mar 24 04:26:14 <b0nn> something's gone nute R.layout.main, main cannot be folund
Mar 24 04:26:24 <NatureTM> ie the provider sets the alarm that calls the service, but the provider isn't called again so I'd like to change the interval from within the service
Mar 24 04:28:10 <T-Dub|DlolPics> I'm like by no means have any idea how NatureTM, or if you can, nor do I understand how that works, but I'm assuming you currently have a thread that checks whatever you need to every 30 minutes, correct?
Mar 24 04:28:17 <b0nn> removed the import R.android and everything is alive
Mar 24 04:31:28 <readme> NatureTM: why poll?
Mar 24 04:31:36 <NatureTM> T-Dub|DlolPics, well, I'm using AlarmManager to call a PendingInstance, not sure about threads
Mar 24 04:31:37 <Napalm> http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/953441/b8ba66a2/dumpert_feel_good_tv.html
Mar 24 04:31:38 <readme> does it need to work when the phone is asleep?
Mar 24 04:31:48 <Napalm> intesting video, about a guy with no arms and no legs
Mar 24 04:32:45 <NatureTM> readme, I guess polling was the wrong word.  Just having the AlarmManager call the service so it actually shouldn't get called during sleep
Mar 24 04:32:59 <readme> NatureTM: you know there is a broadcast you can receive when the connection state changes?
Mar 24 04:33:23 <NatureTM> oh, that sounds like something I should look into
Mar 24 04:34:07 <readme> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3307237/how-can-i-monitor-the-network-connection-status-in-android first answer
Mar 24 04:34:31 <NatureTM> thx
Mar 24 04:38:54 <NatureTM> simple widget that displays an image from http is getting complicated
Mar 24 04:39:24 <readme> why does the connection state need to be monitored?
Mar 24 04:39:59 <HacDan> readme: so he can handle when there's no connection?
Mar 24 04:40:11 <readme> HacDan: why bother when you can just catch the exception
Mar 24 04:41:25 <NatureTM> well, say I update the image every 30 minutes.  If there's no conn, I display an error message.  I don't want the user to have to wait another 30 if the conn is up again right away.  I'd rather just check the state of the conn every min so the user can get up-to-date info again right away
Mar 24 04:42:24 <readme> NatureTM: except checking the connection state is no guarantee that your server will be up, or that DNS will be working
Mar 24 04:42:34 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Napalm http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/2067501/2a299e43/alabama_face_guy.html
Mar 24 04:42:35 <readme> or that there will be a route to your server
Mar 24 04:42:50 <readme> so why you think you need to handle the device connectivity separately from the other myriad failure scenarios is eluding me
Mar 24 04:43:50 <NatureTM> ok, makes sense, so I should just try getting the data instead of checking connectivity
Mar 24 04:43:56 <readme> yeah
Mar 24 04:44:00 <NatureTM> but still it's the issue of update period
Mar 24 04:44:12 <readme> I do think the idea here of not polling the server a lot is good, though.
Mar 24 04:44:35 <readme> you're already pretty entrenched in this
Mar 24 04:44:39 <readme> why not just set up C2DM?
Mar 24 04:44:59 <NatureTM> bc I have no idea wtf that is... googling...
Mar 24 04:45:15 <readme> it will allow you to push a message to the device, that message can be the signal to download
Mar 24 04:45:23 <NatureTM> oh, I don't own the server
Mar 24 04:45:27 <readme> ah
Mar 24 04:45:34 <NatureTM> .gov data
Mar 24 04:45:45 <readme> even better reason not to poll the server with an army of android bots
Mar 24 04:45:50 <readme> here's what I recommend
Mar 24 04:45:54 <readme> you make one server that polls their server
Mar 24 04:46:04 <readme> then tells the clients when the image has changed
Mar 24 04:46:18 <readme> then the clients can download it from their server, or yours, depending on how stingy you are with your bandwidth
Mar 24 04:46:51 <readme> then your polling is replaced by a simple cron job
Mar 24 04:47:17 <NatureTM> it's a lot of extra work for a quick recovery from airplane mode
Mar 24 04:47:36 <readme> hmmmm airplane mode?
Mar 24 04:48:01 <NatureTM> I think I need to just think more about how I've set this up
Mar 24 04:48:14 <readme> you'll get a broadcast from the ConnectivityManager when the user comes out of AP mode
Mar 24 04:48:33 <NatureTM> or as you said, the other myriad of reasons
Mar 24 04:48:45 <readme> that is why I object to monitoring the connection, yeah.
Mar 24 04:48:50 <readme> I don't see a good reason to do it
Mar 24 04:49:00 <NatureTM> I was just looking to change the polling frequency after failyre
Mar 24 04:49:14 <NatureTM> or alarm interval I should day
Mar 24 04:49:16 <NatureTM> say
Mar 24 04:49:29 <readme> If you want to continue with this solution
Mar 24 04:49:41 <canadiancow> lolol.... google.com : start typing "help me i'm t" and see what it suggests :P
Mar 24 04:50:00 <readme> Wouldn't alarm manager wake the phone up when it is sleeping, though, NatureTM ?
Mar 24 04:50:08 <readme> Is that really what you want for downloading this image?
Mar 24 04:50:27 <NatureTM> I think alarmmanager gives me the option of not waking
Mar 24 04:50:37 <readme> If you want to do it this way, I see no reason why not to spawn a thread from your alarm manager callback
Mar 24 04:50:40 <readme> or a timer
Mar 24 04:50:40 <NatureTM> that's why I'm using it, and that's why it's recommended for widgets
Mar 24 04:51:03 <readme> oh no, it's definitely a good idea to use it for any kind of polling versus other solutions
Mar 24 04:51:17 <readme> but polling is always sub-par when you have the possibility of using push
Mar 24 04:51:39 <readme> if you want to keep it your way just spawn a thread when your alarm goes off that checks x times and gives up
Mar 24 04:52:01 <NatureTM> I won't be doing push from my own server
Mar 24 04:52:15 <maxagaz> I updated to sdk-17, and admobs doesn't work anymore, I get this error message: java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to start activity ComponentInfo{com.servername.appname/com.servername.appname.MyActivity}: android.view.InflateException: Binary XML file line #31: Error inflating class com.google.ads.AdView. Even after following the official guide here: https://developers.google.com/mobile-ads-sdk/docs/android/banner_xml
Mar 24 04:52:23 <maxagaz> any idea ?
Mar 24 04:52:26 <NatureTM> I'll get something working
Mar 24 04:52:54 <readme> canadiancow: funny http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e385/MontyK/googleintelligence.png
Mar 24 04:53:14 <canadiancow> ive seen that
Mar 24 04:53:27 <readme> i would think so.. it was the first result in your query
Mar 24 04:53:45 <canadiancow> err
Mar 24 04:53:48 <canadiancow> look at the search suggestion
Mar 24 04:53:55 <readme> yeah, I found that funny as well
Mar 24 04:53:55 <canadiancow> dont actually search
Mar 24 04:54:00 <readme> but I kept on trucking
Mar 24 04:54:02 <readme> hoping for more lukz
Mar 24 04:54:05 <readme> lulz*
Mar 24 04:56:20 <canadiancow> man they need to build a bridge from toronto to niagara falls
Mar 24 04:56:24 <canadiancow> it's a bitch to drive around the lake
Mar 24 04:57:13 <Kittens> major problem with G1
Mar 24 04:57:43 <Kittens> every single rom I try to put on it gives me a Status 7 "error in ***.zip
Mar 24 04:57:51 <readme> #android-root for rom stuff please
Mar 24 04:57:53 <pragma_> lol, g1
Mar 24 04:58:05 <Kittens> thank you readme
Mar 24 04:59:39 <readme> canadiancow: maybe there's a ferry
Mar 24 04:59:41 <readme> :D
Mar 24 05:00:13 <canadiancow> im tired
Mar 24 05:00:13 <canadiancow> it's late
Mar 24 05:00:17 <canadiancow> got a long drive tomorrow
Mar 24 05:00:18 <canadiancow> gnight
Mar 24 05:01:35 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Hey rdonx, when you do android:onClick="method" does that cover every type of click? Like does it do onLongClick, does it do onTouch, does it do on the keyboard click (not sure which one that is) etc?
Mar 24 05:09:43 <NatureTM> hmm.... If I run my service in my own thread, is there anything wrong with doing SystemClock.sleep()?
Mar 24 05:13:04 <NatureTM> I think that may be my simple, inelegant solution
Mar 24 05:15:31 <QubeZ> hi all
Mar 24 05:21:24 <readme> T-Dub|DlolPics: android:onClick is only for regular click events.
Mar 24 05:21:45 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Is there a xml tag you can add for longclicks, or is that 100% hard coded?
Mar 24 05:21:58 <readme> you can actually extend the view and add your own tags easily
Mar 24 05:22:21 <readme> but nah
Mar 24 05:22:36 <readme> onClick is a hack really, but it's a nice one
Mar 24 05:22:49 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Yeah well I was just thinking how awesome the onclick is in xml
Mar 24 05:22:54 <T-Dub|DlolPics> but I want to add long clicks as well
Mar 24 05:23:03 <T-Dub|DlolPics> So if I have to add everything any ways no point
Mar 24 05:23:57 <readme> I'll try it
Mar 24 05:24:27 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Well I'm trying to find a way to declare the button in xml
Mar 24 05:24:39 <T-Dub|DlolPics> but i'm unsuccessful for longclick
Mar 24 05:24:41 <readme> You mean declare the button in xml *with* long click
Mar 24 05:24:53 <readme> it will require subclassing button
Mar 24 05:24:57 <readme> gimme a sec
Mar 24 05:26:18 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Um not sure if that is what I mean. But I mean like android:onClick="method". I was hopping they had like android:onLongClick="method"
Mar 24 05:26:19 <T-Dub|DlolPics> type thing
Mar 24 05:29:35 <readme> T-Dub|DlolPics: it doesn't exist
Mar 24 05:29:37 <readme> I'm coding it
Mar 24 05:29:59 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Is making it really better than just implementing View.OnLongClickListener?
Mar 24 05:30:10 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Like in terms of efficiency
Mar 24 05:30:12 <readme> nah but I find it amusing
Mar 24 05:30:31 <readme> it's probably less efficent and hacky because I'm pretty sure it has to use reflection to allow you to specify the method's name in the attr
Mar 24 05:32:20 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Well if that's the case I don't need it :P
Mar 24 05:32:26 <T-Dub|DlolPics> I really appreciate the help though.
Mar 24 05:32:35 <T-Dub|DlolPics> I just wasn't sure if it excised.
Mar 24 05:32:45 <T-Dub|DlolPics> I'm making a soundboard app so I'll have like 15+ button a page.
Mar 24 05:33:11 <T-Dub|DlolPics> So trying to just make my live easier.
Mar 24 05:33:49 <readme> Create an abstract class called BaseActivity
Mar 24 05:34:00 <readme> and have it implement View.OnLongClickListener
Mar 24 05:34:09 <readme> are you using fragments or not?
Mar 24 05:35:44 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Um, no idea what those are so yesno?
Mar 24 05:36:23 <readme> I would actually say don't use android:onClick for your million button app after reviewing the source
Mar 24 05:36:31 <readme> it's creating TONS of anonymous classes that way
Mar 24 05:36:41 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Yeah I'm not
Mar 24 05:36:44 <readme> http://pastie.org/3658774
Mar 24 05:36:57 <readme> Here's the code from the android source of what happens each time you use android:onClick
Mar 24 05:37:07 <readme> fine if you have only a couple buttons
Mar 24 05:37:11 <readme> would NOT be good on a soundboard, heh
Mar 24 05:37:29 <readme> line 9 is important, that's where you're going to lose all your precious ram
Mar 24 05:37:53 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Yeah here is what I'm going to do, let me pastbin it
Mar 24 05:38:34 <T-Dub|DlolPics> http://pastebin.com/K0HgrFfk
Mar 24 05:40:42 <maxagaz> what's the problem with google admob banner ? I tried it in my project (https://developers.google.com/mobile-ads-sdk/docs/android/banner_xml), I tested their sample in emulators and real phone, on 2.2 and 4.0.3, it always crashes with message: 03-24 13:36:15.201: E/AndroidRuntime(274): Caused by: android.view.InflateException: Binary XML file line #10: Error inflating class com.google.ads.AdView
Mar 24 05:43:10 <readme> T-Dub|DlolPics: yeah, that is a better way
Mar 24 05:44:13 <T-Dub|DlolPics> maxagaz, do you know of any other good android mobile ad units, other than admob?
Mar 24 05:44:40 <maxagaz> T-Dub|DlolPics: no
Mar 24 05:44:53 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Darn. Have you been paid by admob yet?
Mar 24 05:45:02 <maxagaz> T-Dub|DlolPics: no
Mar 24 05:45:06 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Damn
Mar 24 05:45:11 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Do you know if they pay through adsense?
Mar 24 05:45:23 <maxagaz> T-Dub|DlolPics: no
Mar 24 05:45:30 <readme> T-Dub|DlolPics: http://makingmoneywithandroid.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Monthly-Income-Chart-October.png http://makingmoneywithandroid.com/2012/01/android-income-report-7-october/
Mar 24 05:45:44 <readme> admob was the smallest portion of his income
Mar 24 05:45:58 <maxagaz> but I have the feeling that it's impossible to make money with ads
Mar 24 05:46:35 <T-Dub|DlolPics> I've read a lot of articles of people say they earn more money with ads then they do with paid apps.
Mar 24 05:46:50 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Awesome, thanks for that readme. Bookmarked for sure
Mar 24 05:47:20 <l0rdkadaj> ads are nearly impossible to earn money, but that depends on where the ad is placed.
Mar 24 05:47:26 <l0rdkadaj> take angry birds for example
Mar 24 05:55:01 <QubeZ> so the moral of the story is, if you're going to use ads, use madvertise?
Mar 24 05:55:13 <QubeZ> and that admob sucks
Mar 24 05:57:30 <T-Dub|DlolPics> It could be that guy's target audence of apps, but basically that's what I got out of it.
Mar 24 05:57:38 <T-Dub|DlolPics> audience
Mar 24 06:13:27 <dpac> Hi guys, I need some help with this issue: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9849060/textview-settext-in-listview-causing-force-close/9849215
Mar 24 06:17:06 <QubeZ> dpac: have you tried a Log.v to output the values array just to see its contents in that method? Also, you can step through the code in the debugger to analyze your vars during runtime
Mar 24 06:18:31 <dpac> QubeZ: Values array is fine. I did Log.i for that and it printed the values to logcat just fine. The textView is null and I don't know why.
Mar 24 06:18:57 <pragma_> y u use Log.i instead of Log.v?
Mar 24 06:19:09 * pragma_ uses Log.d for great win
Mar 24 06:20:23 <dpac> pragma_: I don't know the difference :/. I started learning android like 3 days back.
Mar 24 06:22:20 <QubeZ> dpac: have you tried a clean -> build
Mar 24 06:22:21 <QubeZ> ?
Mar 24 06:22:40 <dpac> QubeZ: Let me try that
Mar 24 06:22:45 <QubeZ> clean -> build, if that doesn't work... exit Eclipse and re-enter then clean -> build again.
Mar 24 06:22:51 <QubeZ> Let it re-scan your XML and rebuild the R.java
Mar 24 06:23:17 <dpac> QubeZ: Surething. I'll update
Mar 24 06:26:31 <johnrock> I am a beginer in android. I use to do only offline apps. Now i need to learn how to devlp online apps. Like i want to build an app that if i send "hi" , the server should reply "hi" back. Using php.  I 've some exp in web devlopment. So can i do this in normal web hosting. To learn can i use some free hosting services??
Mar 24 06:26:53 <dpac> QubeZ: Tried both Clean->build and Restart Eclipse->Clean->Build. Same NullPointerException is being thrown
Mar 24 06:27:03 <QubeZ> johnrock: that is not really an #android-dev question.
Mar 24 06:27:40 <QubeZ> dpac: hmm weird, i've never used getView before. All of my listview adapter code is always newView / bindView.
Mar 24 06:27:42 <readme> johnrock: #php, and get a book
Mar 24 06:27:46 <QubeZ> let me take another look
Mar 24 06:28:04 <readme> you are at the stage where you really just need a good introductory book
Mar 24 06:28:22 <dpac> QubeZ: Alright :)
Mar 24 06:28:53 <johnrock> I don know, i m new here.. where i can get an answer? My doubt is is there any diffrnc in setting up php..
Mar 24 06:29:04 <johnrock> for android, and normal
Mar 24 06:29:52 <readme> johnrock: a smart question is one that is well-researched
Mar 24 06:29:58 <readme> what research did you conduct before asking us that question?
Mar 24 06:31:52 <johnrock> on reserch oly i found this channel.. :) so thought of asking here
Mar 24 06:32:33 <QubeZ> dpac: why did you name your listview listView1? instead of: android:id="@android:id/list" ?
Mar 24 06:32:34 <readme> johnrock: only ask questions on IRC when you cannot find the information elsewhere or need a second set of eyes to solve a problem. Otherwise no one is going to give you the time of day.
Mar 24 06:33:19 <readme> a good read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Mar 24 06:33:35 <dpac> QubeZ: I've tried both. Doesn't make a difference.
Mar 24 06:34:12 <QubeZ> you sure its exactly that?  android:id="@android:id/list" <-- note the @android:id
Mar 24 06:34:17 <johnrock> <readme> Okay.. i m new here..sorry
Mar 24 06:34:34 <readme> johnrock: i'm not trying to solicit an apology, rather just to point you in the right direction
Mar 24 06:34:46 <readme> if I was mad at you I wouldn't be using my time on this convo
Mar 24 06:35:18 <johnrock> yea.. got it man ! Thanks
Mar 24 06:35:36 <dpac> QubeZ: <ListView android:id="@android:id/list"
Mar 24 06:35:52 <dpac> QubeZ: Copy pasted it
Mar 24 06:36:42 <QubeZ> I could be wrong here but maybe ArrayAdapter only allows for TextView to be the only item in your list_item. Since you have CheckBox and TextView... it might be blowing up.
Mar 24 06:36:54 <QubeZ> maybe you need to use another adapter
Mar 24 06:37:30 <romainguy__> if you override ArrayAdapter you can use different item types
Mar 24 06:37:39 <QubeZ> ok
Mar 24 06:37:51 <QubeZ> have no clue what is wrong with that code w/o debugger
Mar 24 06:38:19 <QubeZ> but romainguy__ is the best to ask about ListViews :)
Mar 24 06:40:10 <dpac> QubeZ: Thanks for trying :)
Mar 24 06:40:21 <dpac> romainguy__: Override as in?
Mar 24 06:40:34 <dpac> romainguy__: I am extending ArrayAdapter
Mar 24 06:43:03 <dpac> QubeZ: Someone just tried my code on stackexchange and it worked for him. Ugh..
Mar 24 06:43:19 <QubeZ> figured, i saw nothing wrong with it
Mar 24 06:43:31 <QubeZ> eclipse man... it is the suck sometimes
Mar 24 06:45:27 <p_l> ... only sometimes?
Mar 24 06:46:33 <QubeZ> heh
Mar 24 06:48:10 <jacekowski> QubeZ: sometimes?
Mar 24 06:48:33 <readme> whats better? intellij? i don't think so
Mar 24 06:49:13 <QubeZ> right, i have a love-hate affair with Eclipse. It abuses me but I cannot leave it, fearing I wont find anything better.
Mar 24 06:49:27 <readme> high light a code block, right click, refactor, and click extract method
Mar 24 06:49:32 <readme> eclipse is awesome
Mar 24 06:49:44 <readme> need to change an identifier throughout the entire program? alt shift r
Mar 24 06:50:01 <readme> need to remove unused imports and sort them? c-shift-o
Mar 24 06:50:17 <readme> format code? c-shift-f
Mar 24 06:51:01 <readme> find all the references to an identifier or method easily, c-shift-g
Mar 24 06:51:31 <dpac> QubeZ: It worked! This is happening to me second time. Wasted my weekend on this stupid eclipse :|
Mar 24 06:52:04 <QubeZ> nice, welcome to Eclipse and Android my friend.
Mar 24 06:52:05 <dpac> QubeZ: One question though, what's the difference between @+ and @android: ?
Mar 24 06:52:29 <dpac> QubeZ: Thanks a lot for all the help :)
Mar 24 06:52:29 <QubeZ> dpac: @+ (user defined) and @android (system pre-set list)
Mar 24 06:52:38 <QubeZ> dpac: I didnt really do anything, but you're welcome.
Mar 24 06:53:38 <QubeZ> dpac: thank me by checking out my app and giving me good rating :)
Mar 24 06:53:40 <QubeZ> todomapr.com
Mar 24 06:53:52 <QubeZ> oh what a lame ploy, ignore that
Mar 24 06:54:07 <dpac> QubeZ: Haha, I'll check it out
Mar 24 06:54:23 <QubeZ> readme: I took your advise and posted to the android subreddit, posted to ycombinator and few other sites. We'll see what Flurry Analytics says tomorrow :)
Mar 24 06:55:06 <readme> QubeZ: cool
Mar 24 06:55:21 <readme> i think you can have some success, it is 100% free anyway
Mar 24 06:55:48 <QubeZ> ya, dying for that web service to come online next month -- $15/yr for unlimited sharing of tasks. Not a bad deal.
Mar 24 06:56:40 <QubeZ> while that runs, I'll try not to pace around the apartment and just work on other projects like trying my hand at making a game.
Mar 24 06:58:08 <readme> yeah games are fun
Mar 24 06:58:19 <readme> i'm finishing up collision detection in mine
Mar 24 06:58:53 <readme> also, you can make some good money on ads with games, I think
Mar 24 06:59:01 <readme> if your game is fun
Mar 24 06:59:05 <readme> and you don't put too many ads
Mar 24 06:59:35 <QubeZ> is it better to have a game be $0.99 or free w/ ads?
Mar 24 06:59:36 <p_l> can also depend on the kind of ads
Mar 24 06:59:48 <Zooklubba> probably free with adds
Mar 24 06:59:49 <p_l> QubeZ: hmmm... depends
Mar 24 06:59:57 <Zooklubba> but as p_l mentioned, depends on the ads etc
Mar 24 06:59:58 <readme> QubeZ: the model i am most interested in is free with ad, and allow in-app purchase to remove ad
Mar 24 07:00:15 <raymonddull> thats not a terrible idea
Mar 24 07:00:24 <JoeTheGuest> Any alternative in app buy API's though?
Mar 24 07:00:25 <readme> I copied it by researching successful games :)
Mar 24 07:00:26 <QubeZ> ya, freemium... but Google IAP is so damn unreliable.
Mar 24 07:00:26 <raymonddull> though most find it easier to do paid app instead of in app purchase
Mar 24 07:00:31 <JoeTheGuest> I've heard the Android one sucks.
Mar 24 07:00:34 <raymonddull> yeah that they said
Mar 24 07:00:35 <p_l> I'm not adverse to paying, however for a long time I *couldn't* pay because I couldn't access paid apps without spoofing MCC ID
Mar 24 07:01:02 <raymonddull> the google api for it sucks, I think koush was the one that had a rant about it on g+
Mar 24 07:01:14 <QubeZ> true, there are large parts of the world where you cannot get paid upfront or IAB
Mar 24 07:01:14 <readme> raymonddull: i guess one advantage is putting all the eggs in the same basket that way, getting more search momentum, and not having to worry about sharing data with the other game should they upgrade
Mar 24 07:01:20 <dpac> QubeZ: Suggestion - put a link to rate/review in "more" ?
Mar 24 07:01:23 <p_l> JoeTheGuest: before using alternative one, check market's ToS
Mar 24 07:01:25 <raymonddull> true
Mar 24 07:01:41 <JoeTheGuest> raymonddull Koush wrote an alternative one that works with the Google API I think.
Mar 24 07:01:52 <JoeTheGuest> But I don't really trust using his because it's closed.
Mar 24 07:01:53 <QubeZ> dpac: I could, but I have a timer set so after you add some tasks successfully and 3 days have passed, a dialog comes up to ask you to rate us.
Mar 24 07:02:05 <dpac> QubeZ: Ahh, nice
Mar 24 07:02:15 <QubeZ> dpac: thought behind that is, after 3 days if you're using it and still adding tasks then you are in a "good mood" to rate us good :)
Mar 24 07:03:02 <readme> yeah, genius idea
Mar 24 07:03:05 <dpac> QubeZ: Right, that's how you got nice reviews. Btw, awesome job with the app, it's really nice.
Mar 24 07:03:10 <readme> ask them to review you only when you're certain they like it, heh
Mar 24 07:03:22 <QubeZ> dpac: thanks
Mar 24 07:04:08 <raymonddull> also, I think this has to be my favorite rant ever: https://plus.google.com/102150693225130002912/posts/1vyfmNCYpi5
Mar 24 07:05:19 <dpac> raymonddull: Mine too
Mar 24 07:13:56 <QubeZ> alright, im passing out
Mar 24 07:14:06 <QubeZ> later all... readme gnight and thanks as always
Mar 24 07:22:44 <maxagaz> how to convert asian language characters to url format ?
Mar 24 07:22:57 <g00s> maxagaz: are your eclipse issues resolved ?
Mar 24 07:23:04 <maxagaz> g00s: yes
Mar 24 07:23:16 <g00s> what happened ?
Mar 24 07:23:42 <maxagaz> g00s: I had to create a libs folder, and drag the jar file in it
Mar 24 07:24:05 <maxagaz> g00s: if you have a lib folder, then you need to rename it libs
Mar 24 07:24:21 <g00s> weird
Mar 24 07:24:28 <g00s> i think i have seen both in the docs
Mar 24 07:25:46 <g00s> http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/23/2896253/google-play-android-mobile-ads-angry-birds
Mar 24 07:25:59 <fairuz_> maxagaz: By asian language, you mean chinese? or malay or japanese or something else. :D
Mar 24 07:26:11 <maxagaz> fairuz_: chinese, korean
Mar 24 07:26:55 <maxagaz> but I guess it doesn't matter, I need to convert it to "uri ascii" (?)
Mar 24 07:29:18 <Zooklubba> Am I the only one with some issues with the clipboard in eclipse on a mac_
Mar 24 07:29:39 <Zooklubba> not sure if my keys are weird or clipboard bug ./
Mar 24 07:30:59 <maxagaz> I guess URLEncoder/URLDecoder can help me..
Mar 24 07:34:00 <g00s> hmm, seaweed toast
Mar 24 07:34:19 <g00s> i bet readme would like this
Mar 24 07:40:16 <Zooklubba> gawd
Mar 24 07:52:41 <iivvoo> does anyone happen to know an easy way to draw a border around the non-transparent part of a transparent image?
Mar 24 07:57:35 <g00s> looks like there are going to be a slew of windows 8 tablets due in Oct
Mar 24 07:57:53 <g00s> i think thats the end for android tablets
Mar 24 08:02:09 <HacDan> g00s: oh ya for sure. Especially with all of the love Windows 8 has been getting </sarcasm>
Mar 24 08:03:02 <g00s> as much love as android tablets? </sarcasm>
Mar 24 08:03:42 <HacDan> so far android tablets have been adopted quite well, considering the market lead the iPad had anyway.
Mar 24 08:05:56 <pragma_> I'm being sarcastic </sarcasm>
Mar 24 08:06:19 <HacDan> ahh pragma_ still around being an ass eh?
Mar 24 09:00:52 <jagruti_> Hello Everyone..
Mar 24 09:01:14 <aLeSD> HI
Mar 24 09:02:19 <jagruti_> i have one major query which i can not solves last one month..can i asked here?
Mar 24 09:02:38 <jagruti_> ask*
Mar 24 09:05:05 <jagruti_> Hello
Mar 24 09:05:19 <jeppy> jagruti_, yes, ask your question
Mar 24 09:05:43 <jeppy> it's better to ask instead of asking to ask
Mar 24 09:05:58 <jagruti_> ok thank you
Mar 24 09:07:45 <jagruti_> i am using the sip demo example from google,i have the problem like when the call arrive then the abackground running application will not open my alert dialogbox in front..
Mar 24 09:07:50 <evelyette> hi
Mar 24 09:08:13 <jagruti_> anybody know about sip demo from google example
Mar 24 09:08:18 <evelyette> I would like to synchronize chosen pictures/videos with my own server (from android). Can I use syncadapter for that ?
Mar 24 09:08:41 <jeppy> evelyette, i believe that is what they are for
Mar 24 09:10:07 <evelyette> jeppy, ok thanks. And I have another question: Is it possible to authenticate to google with accountmanager receiving a token (ok this is possible), but then I would like to send that same token to my server to let my server know about the user + check if token is correct
Mar 24 09:10:10 <jeppy> jagruti_, i dont know about that example specifically, but a background application cant show an alert dialog until it becomes in the foreground again
Mar 24 09:11:13 <jeppy> evelyette, sorry i dont know
Mar 24 09:11:40 <jagruti_> <jeppy>,but how can we came the application in front manually?
Mar 24 09:12:38 <jeppy> jagruti_, either by a user action or by a broadcast event
Mar 24 09:15:04 <jagruti_> i have use the broadcast but not used the service,and i have used the movetoback(true)  code for sending the application in backgroung run,but now i have no any iedea about take in front..canj you tell me if any method?
Mar 24 09:16:06 <jeppy> are you using startActivityForResult?
Mar 24 09:18:05 <jagruti_> jeppy, no i have not used startActivityForResult?
Mar 24 09:19:00 <jeppy> i'm not sure how to do what you're asking
Mar 24 09:19:39 <jugni> jeppy,ok thanks
Mar 24 09:24:30 <jagruti_> anybody have worked on sip demo example of google (android)
Mar 24 09:36:07 <jagruti_> how to know receiver's state in sip calling?
Mar 24 09:56:37 <m15k> Does anybody know which class is invoked on removing an account?
Mar 24 09:57:16 <tobib> did anyone ever try to process json from a webservice incrementally?
Mar 24 09:57:29 <tobib> i'm not sure if that's easily done
Mar 24 09:57:57 <tobib> like if you're on a slow connection but don't want to wait to display data until the "big" json is finally loaded
Mar 24 09:58:50 <cranky_85> hello everybody
Mar 24 09:59:19 <tobib> but the json is only one line, so i probably can't just convert it to a json array every element and tell the adapter the data has changed
Mar 24 09:59:46 <cranky_85> am developing an rss app and am done with the parsing part using SAX what i want to know is how to save the parsed data
Mar 24 10:11:11 <cranky_85> ???
Mar 24 10:11:52 <m15k> cranky_85 where you wanna save the data?
Mar 24 10:11:58 <m15k> sdcard? sqlite?
Mar 24 10:14:04 * alankila wonders if there are event-driven json parsers...
Mar 24 10:55:45 <aLearner> Which flavor of Eclipse works best? Eclipse for Java Devs or Eclipse Classic?
Mar 24 10:58:53 <eagles0513875_> hey guys :)
Mar 24 10:59:01 <aLearner> Hey there
Mar 24 10:59:09 <aLearner> Been kinda quiet
Mar 24 10:59:12 <eagles0513875_> aLearner: im using the enterprise version but i would say the java devs one is your best bet
Mar 24 10:59:20 <eagles0513875_> seeing as android sdk works with java
Mar 24 10:59:51 <aLearner> You think so? I recently had issues with the Java one throwing up an unhandled loop exception suddenly
Mar 24 10:59:54 <aLearner> So I've been wary
Mar 24 11:00:04 <aLearner> Thank you for your input
Mar 24 11:00:14 <aLearner> What do you mean by the enterprise version, though?
Mar 24 11:01:33 <aLearner> This is what is stated on d.android.com ---> The "Eclipse Classic" version is recommended. Otherwise, a Java or RCP version of Eclipse is recommended.
Mar 24 11:01:49 <aLearner> So I'm actually making the switch - hopefully to be safer.
Mar 24 11:03:46 <wabz> aLearner: d.android.com recommends eclipse classic
Mar 24 11:04:08 <aLearner> wabz: Right...^^
Mar 24 11:04:18 <aLearner> What's been your experience? Has it been stable?
Mar 24 11:04:25 <aLearner> Thank you for your thoughs.
Mar 24 11:04:28 <aLearner> *thoughts.
Mar 24 11:04:45 <eagles0513875_> enterprise which focuses on the j2ee
Mar 24 11:04:46 <wabz> works for me, most of the time
Mar 24 11:07:23 <desturrr1> hey i wonder , how to set the focus order on edittext in one layout
Mar 24 11:08:00 <desturrr1> i dont want default jumping from edittext to edittext, i wanna decide the focus order myself
Mar 24 11:08:33 <aLearner> wabz: Cool. What do you mean by 'most of the time'?
Mar 24 11:08:53 <aLearner> eagles0513875_: Right. Thank you. Have you tried Classic as well?
Mar 24 11:09:45 <eagles0513875_> aLearner: sadly not
Mar 24 11:09:49 <eagles0513875_> but alankila
Mar 24 11:10:09 <eagles0513875_> aLearner:  sry mis type any version you get you can always install plugins for features that other versions have.
Mar 24 11:10:17 <eagles0513875_> i think the difference is the UI
Mar 24 11:10:19 <wabz> aLearner: sometimes you need to 'clean project' and rebuild for it to pick up changes/etc for no apparent reason
Mar 24 11:11:00 <wabz> just use classic, it has everything you'll ever need for android development
Mar 24 11:11:15 <aLearner> No worries...I was in the middle of a project when this unhandled exception loop thingy started --- it doesn't show up when I downloaded code onto my Android devoice and in the emulator it didn't affect the behavior, but it annoyingly showed up
Mar 24 11:11:29 <eagles0513875_> aLearner: i would ask in the eclipse channel about that
Mar 24 11:11:36 <aLearner> wabz: I hear you. Thanks. In the process of downloading the Classic version.
Mar 24 11:11:37 <eagles0513875_> aLearner: also check for updates to eclipse
Mar 24 11:11:57 <aLearner> eagles0513875_: Thank you for your input. Updates have broken things before. I'm very wary of them now. :-)
Mar 24 11:12:14 <aLearner> eagles0513875_: Is it just #eclipse?
Mar 24 11:12:55 <aLearner> Yes, it is...
Mar 24 11:13:30 <eagles0513875_> yep
Mar 24 11:13:44 <aLearner> I hope installing a new version of Eclipse is easy enough to set up from sractch
Mar 24 11:13:49 <aLearner> *scratch
Mar 24 11:17:22 <aLearner> I remember struggling some to get it working the first time around I did it...There was something about changing a file in Linux so that my device was recognized...It was fun
Mar 24 11:17:32 <aLearner> I'm on Linux
Mar 24 11:25:51 <ra4king> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=L1jAr466DJc
Mar 24 11:30:27 * hackkitten her options menu isn't working :(
Mar 24 11:30:27 <hackkitten> onOptionsItemSelected() is never called
Mar 24 11:31:04 <hackkitten> in onCreateOptionsMenu() I create the option like this:
Mar 24 11:31:05 <hackkitten> menu.add(0, 0, 0, "Main Menu"); // group 0, item 0, order NONE
Mar 24 11:31:21 <hackkitten> and it shows up, but pressing it doesn't do anything
Mar 24 11:31:47 <pragma_> add the listener
Mar 24 11:35:15 <code1> Is there a way to handle ringtone preference selection while the phone is on silent?
Mar 24 11:35:54 <Dany0> final http://db.tt/tejM0K4h http://db.tt/fp8az7kn http://db.tt/pjpksPvJ what do you think
Mar 24 11:36:05 <hackkitten> pragma_ > nevermind, I fixed it :)
Mar 24 11:36:11 * hackkitten didn't add the option correctly
Mar 24 11:37:24 <janhouse> after adding a gragment with ft.add(R.id.root2, tabaction); and ft.commit(); How can I remove/hide it?
Mar 24 11:37:52 <aLearner> So just to make sure - if I'm installing another version of Eclipse, I don't need to redownload the entire Android SDK - right?
Mar 24 11:41:04 <hayolie> aLearner: you don't
Mar 24 11:41:36 <aLearner> hayolie: Cool. Thanks - and it's the Android SDK that can be super big - right?
Mar 24 11:42:25 <hayolie> the one i have is around 500mb
Mar 24 11:42:28 <aLearner> hayolie: I remember that one of the packages took forever to download because it was so big (and I'm on a slow connection) -- I'm wondering if it's the Android SDK that was big (it had things like Google APIs and different versions)
Mar 24 11:42:48 <aLearner> hayolie: Ah OK - then that must be it. Phew! Glad I don't have to download it again.
Mar 24 11:42:53 <hayolie> but I don't have all the platforms
Mar 24 11:49:43 <janhouse> Any ideas why FragmentTransaction.remove(Fragment) is not removing my fragment from the UI?
Mar 24 11:49:52 <janhouse> or am I supposed to do it in a different way?
Mar 24 11:50:06 <janhouse> I call the FragmentTransaction.commit();
Mar 24 11:50:09 <janhouse> after it is added
Mar 24 12:12:36 <mgj> Sigh, no multiple inheritance sucks. Cant really create your own "super" or "base" activities, too much stuff does that already (GMaps, ABS) =/
Mar 24 12:13:48 <e1z0> hi
Mar 24 13:15:31 <enoch> is it possible to open a drawable in the built in android gallery? how?
Mar 24 13:17:31 <Jabo> the r17 sdk update has screwed up my projects :/
Mar 24 13:24:24 <Jabo> "Referenced Libraries" folder no longer works?
Mar 24 13:24:55 <Jabo> have my admob sdk in there but my app now crashes claiming could not find class
Mar 24 13:30:49 <Jabo> followed this tutorial http://android.foxykeep.com/dev/how-to-fix-the-classdefnotfounderror-with-adt-17
Mar 24 13:30:53 <Jabo> but i don't have a lib folder
Mar 24 13:31:10 <silur> Hello
Mar 24 13:32:19 <silur> Q: Why would AVD manage won't let me create VD targeting 2.3. Only 2.2 dropdown is available even though I gave 2.3.3 SDK Platform + Samples + API installed ?
Mar 24 13:34:02 <Jabo> not to worry
Mar 24 13:34:06 <Jabo> just created a libs folder
Mar 24 13:34:09 <Jabo> worked that way
Mar 24 13:53:41 <NutterzUK> Hey
Mar 24 13:54:29 <NutterzUK> If I create a singleton during a splash screen to load image resources, then later use a method such as Singleton.getAsset() to get that image resource, am I then duplicating it in memory?
Mar 24 13:54:57 <NutterzUK> If I am, how can I avoid that? Should I set it to null in the getAsset method so it's null after getting it, or is there something I'm missing?
Mar 24 13:55:02 <alankila> NutterzUK: java objects are passed by reference.
Mar 24 13:55:08 <alankila> if you don't know that, you have bigger problems.
Mar 24 13:55:16 <NutterzUK> thanks alankila
Mar 24 13:55:37 <NutterzUK> ( Normally use C++, used to pointers etc, evidently need to look some things up )
Mar 24 13:55:57 <gaz`> is there any way to tell android not to play the ringtone from code? like if ur writing a ringtone replacement or something
Mar 24 13:55:57 <alankila> java objects are all "pointers" except the value is meaningless and no arithmetic is possible with them.
Mar 24 13:56:25 <NutterzUK> alankila: Thanks!!
Mar 24 13:56:39 <alankila> can compare identity by comparing reference though
Mar 24 14:21:21 <lookatmeyou> 有中国人吗？
Mar 24 14:22:19 <HacDan> 英语是首选
Mar 24 14:22:55 <pragma_> i disagree with both of you
Mar 24 14:23:11 <lookatmeyou> ....
Mar 24 14:23:50 <lookatmeyou> 都是国人，就不用说外语了吧
Mar 24 14:24:45 <HacDan> 我不说中国话，我使用翻译
Mar 24 14:24:46 <HacDan> =/
Mar 24 14:26:11 <lookatmeyou> really? where are you from?
Mar 24 14:27:08 <HacDan> US
Mar 24 14:27:39 <lookatmeyou> Ok, fine.
Mar 24 15:11:41 <Ankhwatcher> Hey hey hey!
Mar 24 15:13:28 <TobiasFar> are there known plans for clang support in NDK toolchains?
Mar 24 15:22:46 <silur> Hello
Mar 24 15:24:39 <silur> Q: Does anyone knows why this error occurs: "An internal error occurred during: "Launching My_app". Path for project must have only one segment."?  What kind of segment?
Mar 24 15:25:48 <wbooze> path-segment ?
Mar 24 15:26:02 <wbooze> maybe it was meant relative ?
Mar 24 15:26:24 <wbooze> and it's depth is only 1 ?
Mar 24 15:27:59 <wbooze> \/hello\/there
Mar 24 15:28:00 <silur> wbooze, path to project?
Mar 24 15:28:10 <wbooze> two segments above ?
Mar 24 15:28:26 <wbooze> and \/hello is just one segment ?
Mar 24 15:28:46 <wbooze> i don't know if it was meant that way...
Mar 24 15:28:52 <wbooze> but it sounds like it....
Mar 24 15:29:04 <silur> wbooze, hmmmmmmm... not sure even where i need to change something
Mar 24 15:29:15 <wbooze> i have to use backslashes cause else my client crashere hereover
Mar 24 15:29:29 <wbooze> meh
Mar 24 15:30:31 <tclayson> Anyone know about NFC can help me with registering an intent-filter please?
Mar 24 15:32:35 <tclayson> I have this in my android manifest: http://pastebin.com/5BMN9q5N
Mar 24 15:32:59 <tclayson> But scanning an NFC tag doesn't bring my app up in the list of available apps.
Mar 24 15:33:11 <tclayson> scanning an nfc tag with a url in it just opens the browser
Mar 24 15:38:45 <enoch> get URI from Drawable object?
Mar 24 15:45:48 <kuku> Is it hard to find developers for work on android these days?
Mar 24 15:46:29 <TheBunny> yes
Mar 24 15:46:31 <TheBunny> and ios etc etc
Mar 24 15:46:50 <TheBunny> from what I hear its really hard to find good android devs
Mar 24 15:46:54 <TheBunny> GOOD I mean
Mar 24 16:00:15 <wbooze> are there any decent tex apps i can use to say paste tex formula in an irc channel ?
Mar 24 16:03:54 <sebsn> hey, after installing actionbarsherlock I cant reference my layouts/menus/ids. someone aware of that issue?
Mar 24 16:09:50 <TachyonDev> http://www.tachyondev.com/android/ss8.png
Mar 24 16:09:53 <TachyonDev> thoughts?
Mar 24 16:10:34 <Universum> looks pretty good, it is for a tablet?
Mar 24 16:10:43 <TachyonDev> it scales for phones and tablets properly
Mar 24 16:10:55 <TachyonDev> :)
Mar 24 16:11:26 <Universum> I don't think it is a user friendly thing tho, like kids or older people might get scared from it :P
Mar 24 16:12:02 <TachyonDev> Universum: well i dont think they will be DJ'ing so :P
Mar 24 16:12:18 <Universum> heh :P
Mar 24 16:19:31 <Estragon> :( since upgrade to adt17 I have : Conversion to Dalvik format failed with error 1 when I compile my project
Mar 24 16:19:45 <Estragon> I already applied the fix for noclassdeffound
Mar 24 16:33:03 <Hiraghm> I got an idea for an app, but I dunno if it's possible.... an app that would send an SMS message through your phone, from your computer
Mar 24 16:33:40 <TachyonDev> Hiraghm: seems simple enough, communicate to the phone using wifi or a usb socket
Mar 24 16:33:52 <Hiraghm> yeah, that's what I was thinking
Mar 24 16:34:03 <TachyonDev> Hiraghm: dont see why not
Mar 24 16:34:12 <TachyonDev> Hiraghm: though google has been cracking down on some SMS apps
Mar 24 16:34:19 <Hiraghm> whyzat?
Mar 24 16:34:24 <TachyonDev> Hiraghm: SMS spam abuse
Mar 24 16:34:29 <Hiraghm> bah.
Mar 24 16:34:39 <TachyonDev> MikeDG's app just got pulled
Mar 24 16:36:02 <Hiraghm> how can google crack down on sms apps?
Mar 24 16:36:13 <Hiraghm> other than barring them from the market
Mar 24 16:37:22 <TachyonDev> Hiraghm: thats what they did, they pulled his app from the market
Mar 24 16:37:27 <TachyonDev> Hiraghm: and sent him a nastygram
Mar 24 16:37:36 <TachyonDev> Hiraghm: it was an app built for winning SMS contests ..
Mar 24 16:41:06 <NutterzUK> Can I just double check something ( I'm fairly sure I already know but need to know for sure before I make some changes )...
Mar 24 16:41:06 <NutterzUK> When you call an activity, it becomes visible during onStart not onCreate? Is that correct? If it is, if there is something taking a long time to process in onCreate, the activity wouldn't get be displayed, ie... it would hang for a second on the previous activity, load it up, then become visible AFTER onCreate?
Mar 24 16:42:35 <TachyonDev> NutterzUK: onCreate is basically when it is ready.  Hence why you can get a layout, set it, and start working on the UI
Mar 24 16:42:50 <TachyonDev> NutterzUK: if the activity wasnt ready in oncreate, you wouldnt be able to manipulate the UI
Mar 24 16:43:19 <NutterzUK> Thanks TachyonDev
Mar 24 16:43:33 <TachyonDev> yup
Mar 24 16:44:06 <NutterzUK> TachyonDev: when I move from one activity to another, it hangs for a moment before moving to the next activity, so I assume that's because onCreate is taking too long ( there is a lot of initialisation stuff in there, i'm going to move that to an async task to cut it down )
Mar 24 16:44:27 <TachyonDev> NutterzUK: thats just android :P
Mar 24 16:44:39 <NutterzUK> it's like 6 seconds though :(
Mar 24 16:44:46 <TachyonDev> NutterzUK: oh well then yes
Mar 24 16:44:56 <TachyonDev> NutterzUK: you should offload heavy lifting to an asynctask
Mar 24 16:45:05 <NutterzUK> :) got it, thanks TachyonDev
Mar 24 16:45:15 <TachyonDev> NutterzUK: dont want to bog down the UI thread
Mar 24 16:45:48 <TachyonDev> NutterzUK: then its up to you whether to preload and then transition or transition and show a spinner or something until the data is ready
Mar 24 16:45:53 <NutterzUK> It's one of my first apps, so expected that I do something like this and have to go back changing things I guess :P. It's fun learning though
Mar 24 16:46:01 <TachyonDev> indeed
Mar 24 16:46:04 <NutterzUK> I have a splash screen, I'm just making a spinner / async task for it
Mar 24 16:46:09 <NutterzUK> at the moment, the splash screen does nothing
Mar 24 16:46:12 <NutterzUK> just waits
Mar 24 16:46:14 <NutterzUK> ( wasted time )
Mar 24 16:46:15 <TachyonDev> ah
Mar 24 16:46:17 <TachyonDev> there you go
Mar 24 16:46:21 <NutterzUK> yeah :)
Mar 24 16:46:35 <TachyonDev> ASyncTask
Mar 24 16:46:38 <TachyonDev> they are your friend
Mar 24 16:46:59 <NutterzUK> Just trying to get my head around where to load up a load of images, i've made a singleton for it, I think that's going to be my way forward
Mar 24 16:47:19 <NutterzUK> Initialise / load all the images in there, then send them in the onCreate to the activity
Mar 24 16:47:50 <NutterzUK> Better still, I can actually apply them to the ImageViews on the layout before loading the activity, and not send images I think
Mar 24 16:49:04 <TachyonDev> eh
Mar 24 16:49:21 <TachyonDev> NutterzUK: look up lazy loading for android
Mar 24 16:49:25 <NutterzUK> ok
Mar 24 16:49:27 <NutterzUK> Thanks :)
Mar 24 16:52:46 <QubeZ> hi all
Mar 24 16:57:40 <dansul> hi
Mar 24 16:59:42 <luyang> Is it not possible to send my own Extras for built in intents like Intent.ACTION_CALL
Mar 24 17:00:06 <whatShudIDO> any one using vim for android development?
Mar 24 17:02:08 <TachyonDev> lol
Mar 24 17:02:39 <iivvoo> I'm using viPlugin in eclipse
Mar 24 17:02:46 <TachyonDev> yeah there may be some of that going on
Mar 24 17:02:50 <iivvoo> and if I need to do some really heavy editting I fire up vim
Mar 24 17:03:05 <TachyonDev> but to do everything in vi without eclipse would be nutty
Mar 24 17:03:08 <iivvoo> but I still use eclipse for build/install/etc
Mar 24 17:03:08 <sjhuang> whatShudIDO: I do, for android system development
Mar 24 17:03:59 <luyang> I rephrase my question: Does android clear extras when using built-in intent actions? If so what is the best way to pass information with a predefined action so that it can be handled different e.g. the second time it is handled.
Mar 24 17:03:59 <TachyonDev> sjhuang: thats a different story :P
Mar 24 17:04:27 <TachyonDev> luyang: .putExtra()?
Mar 24 17:04:31 <whatShudIDO> sjhuang: what debugger u use ?
Mar 24 17:04:50 <luyang> TachyonDev: I used that but the extra was not passed to my receiver!!
Mar 24 17:05:08 <tnzr> vrapper is a good vim plugin for eclipse too
Mar 24 17:05:22 <tnzr> http://vrapper.sourceforge.net/home/
Mar 24 17:05:36 <TachyonDev> luyang: why would you want to override a system intent?  I dont think you can do that
Mar 24 17:05:50 <TachyonDev> luyang: why not just make another custom broadcast
Mar 24 17:06:02 <luyang> TachyonDev: I do makeCall.putExtra(ConfirmCallReceiver.CONFIRMED_CALL, "yes"); but later in my broadcast receiver I cannot do 			if (extras.getString(ConfirmCallReceiver.CONFIRMED_CALL) != null)
Mar 24 17:06:31 <TachyonDev> luyang: so you are trying to steal phone call intents and say they were answered?
Mar 24 17:06:37 <luyang> I wanna handle outgoing phone calls and if it has been confirmed I wanna just pass through otherwise send to activity "are you sure"
Mar 24 17:06:55 <TachyonDev> luyang: yeah messing with the telephony shit aint no easy task
Mar 24 17:07:04 <TachyonDev> luyang: much of it not possible
Mar 24 17:07:10 <luyang> I am trying to steal outgoing call intents and startActivity which puts up a dialog and if Yes I want to send another Call with same phone number and pass that it has already been handled
Mar 24 17:07:32 <TachyonDev> luyang: yeah good luck with that :P
Mar 24 17:07:49 <luyang> Are you saying it's hard to do?
Mar 24 17:07:59 <luyang> It would be easy if I could just putExtra
Mar 24 17:08:28 <bubbleguuum> luyang: do you use setData() on your intent ?
Mar 24 17:08:32 <luyang> Perhaps I can check the source of the intent somehow
Mar 24 17:08:43 <luyang> bubbleguuum: no but I have been thinking if I should do that instead
Mar 24 17:09:10 <TachyonDev> Google doesn't really like people messing with the telephony in general
Mar 24 17:09:15 <luyang> I do I was just gonna write this app for my sister for fun as she sometimes calls me by accident :D
Mar 24 17:09:24 <TachyonDev> if someone downloads an app that screws up making/receiving phone calls ... that would be bad
Mar 24 17:09:25 <bubbleguuum> I had a similar problem than yours until I replaced setData() by setDataAndType()
Mar 24 17:09:34 <luyang> ok
Mar 24 17:09:59 <luyang> I saw that in the syntax completion… might try that out
Mar 24 17:10:17 <bubbleguuum> luyang: any custom extra would never been received if there was a call to setData() but not with setDataAndType()
Mar 24 17:11:53 <luyang> Hang on I might've forgotten something……
Mar 24 17:12:15 <tnzr> which android sdk version is the most widely used? was it 2.1 or 2.2?
Mar 24 17:12:25 <An_Ony_Moose> have a newb question and don't know how to formulate an appropriate google search. How can I access a TextView object defined in the layout?
Mar 24 17:12:41 <enoch> guys im new to android and java :P, now i've made a simple menu using ListView following the google examples
Mar 24 17:12:57 <antivirtel> hi, I've a 2.2 phone with an "internal memory 100% full" problem. I wanted to connect to (Qt)ADB, but USB debugging is turned off. Can I solve it somehow?
Mar 24 17:13:00 <enoch> i've also added an image in the xml layout
Mar 24 17:13:29 <enoch> the code is here http://pastebin.com/BY9AejtX ---- now i've a question: how to set different icons for each row? what class should i look?
Mar 24 17:13:50 <dansul> iivvoo, have you tried vrapper ? It's suppose to be good and it's free
Mar 24 17:13:53 <luyang> I hadnt forgotten anything
Mar 24 17:14:38 <luyang> I just do Intent makeCall = new Intent(Intent.ACTION_CALL, Uri.parse("tel:"+telno)); makeCall.putExtra(ConfirmCallReceiver.CONFIRMED_CALL, "yes");
Mar 24 17:14:44 <luyang> I never call setData()
Mar 24 17:17:49 <tnzr> should I install 2.1 SDK or should I just stick with 2.2?
Mar 24 17:18:03 <tnzr> I mean is it safe to assume most 2.1 devices made it to 2.2?
Mar 24 17:23:09 <drlaban> tnzr: It's never safe to assume anything, but you can look at http://developer.android.com/resources/dashboard/platform-versions.html and decide which route to take.
Mar 24 17:23:40 <tnzr> thanks drlaban, also I'm just getting started so it probably doesn't matter all that much at this moment... just trying not to install one that I'll never use :)
Mar 24 17:25:18 <blue_pearl> i am trying to make a app with gps functions,can gps be application run on emulator?
Mar 24 17:26:33 <ziroday> Hi there, how can I create the balloons similar to those seen in the android maps application?
Mar 24 17:26:44 <ziroday> (when one clicks a place)
Mar 24 17:27:31 <drlaban> blue_pearl: I take it from your question that you haven't got a device with GPS to test on. I did a quick google on "android gps on emulator" which should give you a couple of articles that would help you out.
Mar 24 17:28:28 <drlaban> blue_pearl: I read the first hit "testing - How to emulate gps location in the Android Emultor...". Looks promising.
Mar 24 17:29:48 <drlaban> ziroday: Is this what you're after?: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3707923/
Mar 24 17:30:37 <blue_pearl> drlaban, yep i have not got a gps or any android device...i also saw some google results but ...i am confused if there is some problem in code or emulator......if it compiles properly but does not run on emulator there r chanses that my code is correct right?
Mar 24 17:30:59 <ziroday> drlaban, that's close to perfect! However in this case the underlying view is drawn using achartengine - that stackoverflow snippet seems to reference using a map view as the underlying piece.
Mar 24 17:32:07 <drlaban> ziroday: Alright, that puts it in another light. I haven't worked with or even heard of achartengine, so I'm at a loss here..
Mar 24 17:32:56 <ziroday> drlaban, sure no worries. From what I gather an ItemizedOverlay of some sort is what I'm looking for, just not sure what's the best way to go about it
Mar 24 17:33:38 <drlaban> blue_pearl: Well, it _should_ work, but in order to be certain about it you would have to make the emulation part work at least to _some_ degree. Or test periodically on a real device just to see the results.
Mar 24 17:34:07 <blue_pearl> drlaban, thanx.
Mar 24 17:34:59 <drlaban> blue_pearl: Well, I didn't do much
Mar 24 17:35:05 <drlaban> but you're welcome. :)
Mar 24 17:36:35 * hackkitten is sad now that her AndEngine-based app blew up :(
Mar 24 17:37:16 <Zooklubba> blew up_
Mar 24 17:38:24 <ziroday> alternatively - does anyone know how the sidebox in the google maps (for tablets) application is created? This sidebox comes up after clicking on details for a certain place
Mar 24 17:46:29 <An_Ony_Moose> is there a way to debug on a hardware device via bluetooth (rather than via USB)? Because somehow connecting my phone to my computer seems to shut down the computer's USB completely, leaving me with no way to input anything any more.
Mar 24 17:52:24 <blue_pearl> An_Ony_Moose, r u on a windows computer? i think there is a special usb driver for android sdk that needs to be installed.
Mar 24 17:53:22 <An_Ony_Moose> blue_pearl: no, linux (debian)
Mar 24 17:53:55 <An_Ony_Moose> blue_pearl: and I don't think lack of a driver could cause a failure of the entire computer's USB
Mar 24 17:54:55 <blue_pearl> An_Ony_Moose, ooh, i see...i dont think its possible to do over bluetooth, though not 100% sure.
Mar 24 17:58:17 <An_Ony_Moose> ok. Thanks anyway blue_pearl I'll just try it again with USB
Mar 24 17:58:21 <An_Ony_Moose> and hope it doesn't die
Mar 24 17:58:43 <An_Ony_Moose> and set up a safer shutdown sequence that will activate in case it does mess up the USB again :D
Mar 24 17:58:43 <blue_pearl> An_Ony_Moose, wish u luck :)
Mar 24 17:58:47 <An_Ony_Moose> thanks
Mar 24 18:08:07 <An_Ony_Moose> yay it survived
Mar 24 18:15:31 <blue_pearl> An_Ony_Moose, glad to hear that.
Mar 24 18:16:09 <An_Ony_Moose> blue_pearl: thanks. Debugging works fine too :)
Mar 24 18:16:41 <blue_pearl> An_Ony_Moose, u r welcome.
Mar 24 18:21:29 <tnzr> if I can't see my android device in the AVD manager, is that indicative of a USB driver problem?
Mar 24 18:22:34 <Ankhwatcher> can you make a path clickable?
Mar 24 18:23:12 <Jabo> when having your app run shell commands how do you capture the output to a string?
Mar 24 18:23:41 <g00s> Jabo: the Setings app does that in the networking section with ping
Mar 24 18:23:57 <g00s> its pretty easy
Mar 24 18:24:27 <Zooklubba> tnzr, if its in debug mode then yes. Otherwise enable usb debugging
Mar 24 18:24:59 <Jabo> settings app?
Mar 24 18:25:14 <tnzr> Zooklubba: thanks
Mar 24 18:25:29 <Jabo> i'm writing my own app to execute shell commands
Mar 24 18:25:48 <Jabo> need the output from one capture to a string so that it can be displayed in textview
Mar 24 18:26:02 <Jabo> captured*
Mar 24 18:27:21 <homie> oh man, this password protection seems rather random....
Mar 24 18:27:33 <homie> i can't get my password to be accepted now....
Mar 24 18:27:35 <homie> lol
Mar 24 18:31:50 <luyang> If I am to invoke an activity multiple times. Should I handle the intent in onResume only and not in onCreate?
Mar 24 18:39:23 <Hiraghm> in Java, how many bits to a byte? is it still 8, like in C/C++?
Mar 24 18:39:55 <Hiraghm> I'm trying to read a lightwave data file, and some of the data is stored as 8-bit bytes
Mar 24 18:40:17 <Knossos> Bytes are Bytes, regardless of language
Mar 24 18:40:57 <luyang> Hiraghm: I think you want to look into Java IO byte streams and text readers
Mar 24 18:41:43 <Hiraghm> luyang, thanks.
Mar 24 18:42:06 <Hiraghm> IIRC from my C64/Amiga days, Shorts were 8 bits..
Mar 24 18:43:19 <luyang> iirc bytes have occasionally been called words… or was that 32 bits, 4 bytes?
Mar 24 18:43:22 <Hiraghm> yeah, and a char is 8 bits.
Mar 24 18:43:38 <Hiraghm> I think longwords were 32 bit
Mar 24 18:43:49 <luyang> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer_(computer_science)
Mar 24 18:44:01 <Hiraghm> except in Java it seems shorts are 16 bit
Mar 24 18:45:42 <luyang> My onResume is called twice
Mar 24 18:45:50 <luyang> I think I might have to implement onIntent...
Mar 24 18:46:39 <readme> Hiraghm: in java, char is a 16-bit unicode character
Mar 24 18:46:44 <readme> use byte if you want c's char
Mar 24 18:46:55 <Hiraghm> thx
Mar 24 18:47:01 <readme> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/nutsandbolts/datatypes.html
Mar 24 19:04:35 <frikinz> Hi. Do you know why tunein radio and streamfurious (and probably others) are giving me 'internal codec error' when trying to play something? Any idea?
Mar 24 19:11:20 <b0nn> hm, I have some text that I want the user to edit, only using the buttons I provide
Mar 24 19:14:03 <b0nn> I want to show the user which character they are editing by placing a flashing cursor behind the character
Mar 24 19:15:42 <paradoxx> Is there a way to programatically "know" what the parent activity of a current activity is?
Mar 24 19:17:28 <Tommy> anyone know if there's a way to make an application change google voice settings D:
Mar 24 19:17:38 <Tommy> i suspect it's not possible, or easily done at least
Mar 24 19:18:22 <b0nn> which element would I use, one that accepts a touch to choose the character
Mar 24 19:24:23 <BSnyper> Hey
Mar 24 19:24:27 <Zooklubba> just updated eclipse and sdk manager etc
Mar 24 19:24:28 <Zooklubba> Parsing Data for android-15 failed
Mar 24 19:24:28 <Zooklubba> java.lang.NullPointerException
Mar 24 19:24:35 <Zooklubba> filled with those problems, bah
Mar 24 19:24:38 <BSnyper> Is there any way to actually detect if a user has shared my app to facebook/twitter?
Mar 24 19:25:08 <Zooklubba> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5019051/problem-with-android-sdk-content-loader guess that is the solution
Mar 24 19:30:52 <BSnyper> Is there any way to actually detect if a user has shared my app to facebook/twitter?
Mar 24 19:33:55 <cconstantine_> has anyone used wordpress as their server-side account management/authentication system?
Mar 24 19:35:22 <readme> BSnyper: you mean like, putting a link to your market page in a tweet?
Mar 24 19:35:35 <BSnyper> readme: Yeah
Mar 24 19:35:35 <readme> typing your market URL into google should be a pretty good litmus test.
Mar 24 19:35:50 <t0mless> I think he means progamatically
Mar 24 19:36:08 <readme> BSnyper: so you want to detect if they shared *through your app*?
Mar 24 19:36:12 <t0mless> i.e. give them 5 free MyAppBucks if they share via facebook/twitter
Mar 24 19:36:15 <BSnyper> I'd like to thank/reward the users that share my app, but make sure they actually share it, not just press the button to be rewarded.
Mar 24 19:36:30 <BSnyper> t0mless: exactly
Mar 24 19:36:31 <readme> BSnyper: the facebook and twitter apis probably have some way to detect whether a post was made. Check docs.
Mar 24 19:36:39 <readme> I've seen other apps do this
Mar 24 19:36:49 <BSnyper> readme: Will take a look now.
Mar 24 19:36:52 <t0mless> Other apps I just click it the button and I get the reward
Mar 24 19:36:59 <t0mless> Don't actually have to post
Mar 24 19:37:13 <readme> he'd probably be fine with that solution
Mar 24 19:37:17 <RobinB> that's what i do with my facebook button
Mar 24 19:37:19 <readme> not like people are going to game the system
Mar 24 19:37:20 <t0mless> but I don't actually use that many apps that have rewards like that
Mar 24 19:37:35 <readme> i use apps with rewards like that because i'm studying them
Mar 24 19:37:37 <RobinB> the facebook api is a pain, and most people still "like" the fanpage
Mar 24 19:37:39 <readme> rewards = $$$$
Mar 24 19:37:48 <BSnyper> Ah
Mar 24 19:40:06 <Ge0rG> what is the most efficient way to UPDATE an entry in SQLite if it exists or to INSERT it if not?
Mar 24 19:40:14 <BSnyper> It seems to get quite complicated if I try to check they actually shared it, I think I'll just make it when they press the button.
Mar 24 19:41:02 <Ge0rG> "ON CONFLICT REPLACE" changes the entry _id, which I really need to prevent at any cost.
Mar 24 19:41:13 <readme> Ge0rG: INSERT OR REPLACE INTO
Mar 24 19:41:30 <Ge0rG> readme: same problem :(
Mar 24 19:42:32 <readme> the _id isn't something you get unless you're using ContentProvider, right?
Mar 24 19:43:04 <readme> I've used insert or replace into for this purpose on android before
Mar 24 19:43:23 <Chronax> Guys, I sure wish Java had a nullable coalescing operator.
Mar 24 19:43:32 <Chronax> Well, that and lambda expressions.
Mar 24 19:43:35 <Ge0rG> readme: the _id is relevant for any table that is displayed in android's ui
Mar 24 19:43:43 <aleb> I just updated the Android SDK and the Eclipse plugin and now I get a java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com.google.common.collect.Sets .. even though Guava is specified as a lib of my project.. Any idea how to fix this?
Mar 24 19:43:46 <readme> Ge0rG: I don't think so
Mar 24 19:43:48 <Ge0rG> readme: my current problem is, it's used by expandablelistview for its groups
Mar 24 19:43:56 <readme> Ge0rG: you can write your own binding to sqlite
Mar 24 19:44:09 <readme> you don't have to have an "_id" column
Mar 24 19:44:12 <readme> I know this for a fact.
Mar 24 19:44:37 <Ge0rG> readme: yes, but you really want to have _id on android.
Mar 24 19:44:44 <Ge0rG> also, I'm using a contentprovider anyway.
Mar 24 19:44:53 <readme> hmmm
Mar 24 19:44:59 <readme> Maybe we can figure something out with a VIEW
Mar 24 19:45:31 <readme> can you do your insert/updates into a table that has no _id, then make the VIEW have _id? and use that for your ContentProvider stuff
Mar 24 19:46:02 <Ge0rG> readme: where should I store the _id then?
Mar 24 19:46:14 <Ge0rG> readme: the problem is actually that replace in sqlite is auto-incrementing _id.
Mar 24 19:46:22 <Ge0rG> instead of keeping it.
Mar 24 19:46:33 <readme> uhuh, because I'm pretty sure that that ID is declared as auto incrementing in the schema
Mar 24 19:46:38 <Ge0rG> I could probably do a select to get the _id and then update/insert
Mar 24 19:46:44 <flytepark> Hey guys
Mar 24 19:46:51 <readme> a select subquery?
Mar 24 19:46:54 <Ge0rG> readme: it is declared as auto-increment.
Mar 24 19:46:54 <readme> it sounds expensive
Mar 24 19:47:14 <readme> Ge0rG: yeah I know
Mar 24 19:47:30 <readme> that was meant to be uh-huh, not uh uh, sorry
Mar 24 19:48:05 <aleb> for the record, found this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9846935/updating-android-sdks-15-r-3-causes-all-built-apks-to-crash-when-run
Mar 24 19:48:10 <Ge0rG> readme: I suppose I'll have to go with the two-query method though.
Mar 24 19:49:29 <paradoxx> Question. If I create a variable and store a value  in the  onPause of my application, will it be available in the onResume?
Mar 24 19:50:35 <readme> paradoxx: if it's an instance member and your activity isn't killed, then yes
Mar 24 19:50:50 <paradoxx> readme, Instance member?
Mar 24 19:50:53 <readme> if you want it to survive an onCreate you can use a static but I don't recommend this unless you have a very good reason
Mar 24 19:51:13 <readme> paradoxx: visible to that instance of the class, the object... declared at class level and non-static.
Mar 24 19:51:35 <readme> that's what makes it an instance member"
Mar 24 19:51:58 <readme> usually example code for android prefixes these with 'm'
Mar 24 19:52:04 <readme> for 'member'
Mar 24 19:52:43 <readme> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Activity.html
Mar 24 19:52:59 <readme> in the lifecycle, onResume can be called when the user returns, but it's also called if the activity is re-created.
Mar 24 19:56:13 <paradoxx> kk
Mar 24 19:58:46 <Ge0rG> readme: "insert or replace into roster values((select _id from roster where jid='$JID'), '$JID', ...)" works.
Mar 24 19:59:18 <Ge0rG> readme: however, that has a sub-query and it is hard to put it into android's default wrapper
Mar 24 19:59:50 <Ge0rG> and I don't really want to manually escape the user name for execSQL()
Mar 24 20:03:33 <readme> Ge0rG: well, at least you've got something
Mar 24 20:04:01 <Ge0rG> yeah, something that sucks badly :)
Mar 24 20:14:19 <flytepark> Anyone know of any examples for USB beyond what is in the SDK
Mar 24 20:14:55 <flytepark> I have a HID device, just trying to figure out what I need to do to read/write to the device
Mar 24 20:35:02 <Danic> I start learning android development and I have a Problem with ListView and ArrayAdapter. My List just does not show up. I only see the predefined text vor id/empty. Would someone be so kind to help me? AlarmActivity.java: http://pastebin.com/Lbz3MB1D Layouts.xml: http://pastebin.com/mYsykyH7
Mar 24 20:37:22 <t0mless> would it be because your list is empty?
Mar 24 20:38:16 <t0mless> lv.findViewById(R.id.listView1); <-- wtf?
Mar 24 20:38:38 <t0mless> You're creating new ListView programatically
Mar 24 20:38:43 <t0mless> and never adding it to the layout
Mar 24 20:38:51 <t0mless> so the one that is created in your actual lyout
Mar 24 20:38:53 <t0mless> is empy
Mar 24 20:38:55 <t0mless> empty
Mar 24 20:38:57 <Danic> I want to work with the list I created in main.xml
Mar 24 20:39:07 <Danic> And fill it with the adapter.
Mar 24 20:39:19 <t0mless> you have two options
Mar 24 20:39:35 <t0mless> use ListActivity instead of Activity and give your list in xml the id "@android:is/list"
Mar 24 20:39:42 <t0mless> and then you can just use setListAdapter()
Mar 24 20:39:50 <t0mless> in ListActivity
Mar 24 20:39:51 <t0mless> OR
Mar 24 20:40:10 <t0mless> use ListView lv = (ListView)findViewById(R.id.listView1);
Mar 24 20:40:22 <t0mless> ListView lv = new ListView(this); lv.findViewById(R.id.listView1);
Mar 24 20:40:43 <Niya> I have a broadcast reciever which is setup to receive several intent actions with the intent filter.  It receives the Google C2DM intents, but it does not receive my intents sent with the alarm manager.  Can you think of why that could be?
Mar 24 20:41:03 <t0mless> That creates a new empty listview, then attempt to find the view with id listView1 inside that ListView (which does not exist) and then you set the adapter an the ListView you created in code and never show anywhere
Mar 24 20:41:26 <t0mless> and thus, is completely useless
Mar 24 20:42:01 <t0mless> ( Niya ): perhaps your categories/data types are set wrong?
Mar 24 20:43:00 <Niya> t0mless: My only category is my package name?
Mar 24 20:43:47 <t0mless> what category are you setting on the intent you put in the AlarmManager?
Mar 24 20:44:00 <Danic> t0mless, thanks a lot, that helped. And what you say is correct - of course. How could I not see that xD
Mar 24 20:44:10 <cconstantine_> Is it possible let multiple people modify a Google Play application?
Mar 24 20:45:02 <Niya> t0mless: I'm not?  I don't see how to set the category?
Mar 24 20:46:04 <Niya> hmm, I see
Mar 24 20:46:31 <Danic> I have another question, now that it's working. Why do I still see my empty-TextView @android:id/empty, when my ListView contains TextViews? See main.xml: http://pastebin.com/mYsykyH7
Mar 24 20:47:09 <SimonVT> You have to call setEmptyView on the ListView
Mar 24 20:47:37 <t0mless> ( Danic ): because you're not using ListActivity
Mar 24 20:47:43 <Danic> Alright ^^
Mar 24 20:47:50 <t0mless> you have to do all that empty text stuff yourself :)
Mar 24 20:48:01 <t0mless> if you use ListActivity it handles that for you
Mar 24 20:48:23 <Danic> Ahhh, good to know. Thought this is valid anywhere.
Mar 24 20:48:27 <Danic> Thank you.
Mar 24 20:49:13 <t0mless> DialogFragments are weird... but neat I guess
Mar 24 20:49:29 <Rangar> Not sure if anyone is interested, but if there are any Delphi coders in the room Lazarus now works for Android dev!
Mar 24 20:52:50 <Niya> t0mless: http://pastebin.ca/2131852
Mar 24 20:54:11 <Niya> t0mless: I'm seeing that the alarm manager is dispatching the intents, but the broadcast receiver isn't ever receiving them =/
Mar 24 20:54:43 <t0mless> I think it's because you're using the same reciever as the c2dm receiver
Mar 24 20:54:52 <t0mless> because the alarm manager doesn't have the permission to use it
Mar 24 20:55:02 <Niya> >_<
Mar 24 20:55:03 <t0mless> android:permission="com.google.android.c2dm.permission.SEND" >
Mar 24 20:55:27 <Niya> The kicker is that this works in Honeycomb + ICS >_<
Mar 24 20:55:38 <t0mless> hmm
Mar 24 20:55:43 <t0mless> Dunno
Mar 24 20:55:53 <Niya> I mean, that may be it.  I'll try it.
Mar 24 20:55:53 <t0mless> I don't have much experience with the AlarmManager
Mar 24 20:58:20 <Niya> t0mless: That was it.
Mar 24 20:58:28 <Niya> Thank you very much.
Mar 24 21:03:42 <gyscos> Hey there :)
Mar 24 21:04:21 <gyscos> I'm using several identical buttons in my xml layout, is there a way to set the different padding / text size values in a separate layout file and then just refer to it each time ?
Mar 24 21:05:22 <gyscos> One way would be to create a new class just for that, but it seems a bit wrong
Mar 24 21:05:38 <gyscos> Is there a kind of template attribute ?
Mar 24 21:06:18 <stiggpwnz> testing
Mar 24 21:10:28 <stiggpwnz> Hey guys, how to start a service on a separate thread? I tried starting it in a different procces, which is easy, but I can't access my Application object from different processes
Mar 24 21:11:22 <gyscos> Just start the service in the usual way, and start a thread from there...
Mar 24 21:11:25 <SimonVT> You don't "start a service on a seperate thread". You can, however, start a thread from a service
Mar 24 21:11:50 <stiggpwnz> now I have a thread object which I start and stop on service bound and unbound, but my service is still blocking my UI
Mar 24 21:11:59 <t0mless> gyscos You can define your text styles in a seperate xml file
Mar 24 21:12:07 <t0mless> then then use that style
Mar 24 21:12:12 <t0mless> and then*
Mar 24 21:12:54 <gyscos> t0mless, thanks :) I'll check it out. Do you happen to know that attribute for that ? There is no "android:style" :(
Mar 24 21:13:02 <hackkitten> geez, for some reason in AndEngine lines are drawn half the length they should be :(
Mar 24 21:13:07 <t0mless> just style I believe
Mar 24 21:13:21 <stiggpwnz> gyscos, SimonVT: And how do I do that? How to create thread inside of my service that will host all my methods?
Mar 24 21:13:23 <hackkitten> it's like it's ignoring what I'm telling it to do...
Mar 24 21:13:25 <t0mless> you can also use textAppearance for text size/color
Mar 24 21:14:04 <t0mless> stiggpwnz IntentService might be helpful for you
Mar 24 21:14:11 <gyscos> stiggpwnz, what do you mean, "host method" ? A method doesn't belong to a thread. It will execute in the thread that called it.
Mar 24 21:15:50 <stiggpwnz> t0mless, no, I have bound them and have handlers
Mar 24 21:17:10 <t0mless> ahh, well then you'll just have to spawn your own worker threads
Mar 24 21:19:08 <stiggpwnz> gyscos, I mean, I have a lot of methods handled by my handler, and I want them all to be in single separate service
Mar 24 21:19:09 <stiggpwnz> gyscos, it was easy by defining different process in android manifest, bu I lost access to my Application object from that different process
Mar 24 21:19:10 <stiggpwnz> t0mless, I mean I already bound my activity and service with Messages and Handlers, cuz I need constant updates on my UI and Intents are slow for my needs
Mar 24 21:19:28 <t0mless> that's fine
Mar 24 21:20:04 <t0mless> and yea, you have to use IPC to talk between processes
Mar 24 21:20:15 <t0mless> just spawn a new thread to do what you need to do
Mar 24 21:20:29 <t0mless> instead of having it in a seperate process
Mar 24 21:22:26 <stiggpwnz> t0mless, isn't it slow? I mean always spawning new Threads instead of having a single one?
Mar 24 21:22:59 <stiggpwnz> t0mless, or is it impossible to have a single one in my case?
Mar 24 21:23:36 <stiggpwnz> t0mless, I mean in case of handling different actions in a single thread
Mar 24 21:23:37 <t0mless> you can spawn just one thread to do all your work...
Mar 24 21:24:06 <stiggpwnz> t0mless, that's exactly what I want to figure out how to do : )
Mar 24 21:25:07 <t0mless> new Thread( public void run() { while(workToDo) { doWork();} } ).run();
Mar 24 21:25:38 <t0mless> I think it's run... might be execute at the end
Mar 24 21:25:51 <t0mless> or maybe execute is only for AsyncTask
Mar 24 21:26:40 <stiggpwnz> t0mless, I think I got how to do that, I'll try to wrap my handler's  handleMessage(Message msg) in my thread
Mar 24 21:27:01 <stiggpwnz> t0mless, it's start for the thread and execute for Async
Mar 24 21:27:05 <t0mless> don't think that's going to work
Mar 24 21:27:20 <t0mless> if you want just a worker thread running
Mar 24 21:27:30 <t0mless> you should create it when the service is started
Mar 24 21:27:38 <t0mless> and have a queue of messages that it just processes
Mar 24 21:28:03 <t0mless> and handleMessage() just pops that on the queue
Mar 24 21:28:08 <t0mless> pushes*
Mar 24 21:28:16 <t0mless> and the thread does the work
Mar 24 21:28:27 <stiggpwnz> t0mless, for example I have a lot of listeners, is there any way for them to do their work in a single thread?
Mar 24 21:28:29 <t0mless> then you can optionally end the thread if there is no work and spawn a new one if needed
Mar 24 21:28:57 <t0mless> You can't just wrap a method in a Thread
Mar 24 21:29:26 <t0mless> you can wrap method CALLS in a new Thread
Mar 24 21:29:30 <t0mless> but not a method definition
Mar 24 21:29:33 <jcase> ok im eitehr blind or something, trying to move from admob to adsense (Admob being shutdown) And I cant find the @#$@#$ sdk for adsense
Mar 24 21:29:54 <t0mless> adsense doesn't have an android sdk
Mar 24 21:30:00 <t0mless> and admob isn't being shut down...
Mar 24 21:30:38 <stiggpwnz> t0mless, so there's no way to handle messages and call onSomethingDone listeners in just one single thread?
Mar 24 21:30:53 <jcase> t0mless, according to what google jsut sent me, admob is beign shutdown
Mar 24 21:31:23 <t0mless> stiggpwnz exactly how I said
Mar 24 21:31:31 <t0mless> spawn your thread and have a queue of messages to process
Mar 24 21:31:38 <HacDan> jcase: does it say mobile web adds or or mobile app adds?
Mar 24 21:31:49 <t0mless> have your handleMessage push to the queue
Mar 24 21:31:50 <jcase> web ads (yes website i know)
Mar 24 21:32:02 <jcase> but according to adsense help there is an adsense sdk
Mar 24 21:32:03 <jcase> for android
Mar 24 21:32:08 * t0mless shrugs
Mar 24 21:32:09 <jcase> figured i would move apps to it as well
Mar 24 21:32:15 <t0mless> admob is using adsense for backfill now
Mar 24 21:32:16 <jcase> since im moving my sites to it
Mar 24 21:32:19 <t0mless> it's not being shut down
Mar 24 21:32:31 <jcase> t0mless, ok, rephrase, admob for mobile sites
Mar 24 21:32:35 <jcase> is being discontinued
Mar 24 21:32:39 <t0mless> ahh
Mar 24 21:32:50 <paradoxx> How can I force a webview to be opened in my application as opposed to creating an intent to the other browsers on the device?
Mar 24 21:33:00 <t0mless> I think you can just plug your adsense provider ID into adwhirl
Mar 24 21:33:09 <jcase> https://developers.google.com/adsense-for-mobile-apps/docs/android/
Mar 24 21:33:20 <jcase> according to that there is an sdk for android
Mar 24 21:33:42 <jcase> but for the life of me i cant locate  GoogleAdView.jar  unless its the same jar as the GoogleAdmobSDK.jar
Mar 24 21:34:13 <stiggpwnz> t0mless, I don't really know how to do that, but isn't it as slow as spawning a new ones?
Mar 24 21:34:17 <SimonVT> jcase: That page seems horribly outdated
Mar 24 21:34:19 <t0mless> I bet it is
Mar 24 21:34:26 <jcase> lol
Mar 24 21:34:27 <jcase> figures
Mar 24 21:34:43 <SimonVT> It recommends targeting 1.6
Mar 24 21:34:47 <stiggpwnz> t0mless, thanks for the answers mate
Mar 24 21:34:49 <SimonVT> But 1.1 works as well
Mar 24 21:36:11 <t0mless> There is no AdSenseSpec in the GoogleAdMobdsSdk
Mar 24 21:37:31 <jcase> so pretty much horribly outdated docs
Mar 24 21:37:36 <paradoxx> How can I force a webview to be opened in my application as opposed to creating an intent to the other browsers on the device?
Mar 24 21:37:43 <jcase> and now i ahve to split in app and site ads
Mar 24 21:37:45 <jcase> meh
Mar 24 21:37:45 <jcase> ok
Mar 24 21:37:51 <jcase> thanks for helping with this confusing mess
Mar 24 21:38:00 <jcase> google should really prune some docs
Mar 24 21:38:12 <paradoxx> (If any one has experience with using webviews in that way.)
Mar 24 21:38:39 <t0mless> I think you can just plugin the client ID into adwhirl for adsense...
Mar 24 21:38:49 <stiggpwnz> t0mless, one last question, does a thread stop when it did it's work, or I have to stop it myself? I've never worked with threads, just Asynctasks..
Mar 24 21:39:15 <t0mless> unless you force the thread to loop, like I did in that example, yes
Mar 24 21:39:20 <t0mless> it sill die after it's done
Mar 24 21:39:26 <t0mless> it will*
Mar 24 21:39:33 <stiggpwnz> t0mless, greatm thanks!
Mar 24 21:42:55 <t0mless> hrm
Mar 24 21:43:07 <t0mless> my emultor seems to be being created off screen
Mar 24 21:43:10 <t0mless> and I can't move it
Mar 24 21:43:51 <t0mless> ha
Mar 24 21:43:53 <t0mless> rescued it
Mar 24 21:46:13 <gyscos> Daah, when I'm editing a xml file (like Android Manifest or a layout) and I click "run" in Eclipse, it tries to process the file instead of starting the android app. Is there a way to avoid this ?
Mar 24 21:46:38 <t0mless> close your xml files first?
Mar 24 21:46:41 <gyscos> :-/
Mar 24 21:46:43 <t0mless> don't use eclipse?
Mar 24 21:46:54 <t0mless> build with ant?
Mar 24 21:47:11 <t0mless> I've heard of that bug before, but never experienced it myself
Mar 24 21:47:50 <Pinas> hello, i have a little question. I need to build an app that monitors network traffic and afaik this is only possible on a rooted phone. Does anyone knows some articles/papers/... on how to build a android network sniffer or about what is important to consider when developing apps with root privileges (i know how do develop a simple network sniffer on linux but i dont know about the important differences between linux and android) thx
Mar 24 21:48:12 <MDijkstra> Pinas: there is no difference, essentially
Mar 24 21:48:35 <MDijkstra> Pinas: tcpdump will just work on android
Mar 24 21:48:42 <gyscos> Really ? You could use libpcap on android ??
Mar 24 21:49:08 <MDijkstra> yep
Mar 24 21:49:32 <Pinas> so i could use libpcap via the ndk ???
Mar 24 21:49:45 <Pinas> even via sdk ?
Mar 24 21:49:49 <MDijkstra> yep, I think there's even a JNI wrapper already
Mar 24 21:50:30 <MDijkstra> http://blog.umitproject.org/2011/05/libpcap-for-android.html
Mar 24 21:50:38 <MDijkstra> you should of course run stuff as root
Mar 24 21:51:27 <Pinas> yea, i'd prefer to not run it as root but I dont think that this is possible
Mar 24 21:51:40 <MDijkstra> but there's really no reason for google to significantly alter these kind of low-lvl API's
Mar 24 21:51:57 <MDijkstra> so most of the linux stuff will just work
Mar 24 21:52:27 <Pinas> thx for the link MDijkstra seems interesting
Mar 24 21:52:33 <MDijkstra> np
Mar 24 21:53:26 <Pinas> seems that this guy used libpcap without root access
Mar 24 22:43:59 <vitor-br> There is a limit to items in the ListActivity?
Mar 24 22:49:30 <SimonVT> You'll most likely run out of memory before you hit any kind of memory
Mar 24 22:49:49 <SimonVT> limit*
Mar 24 23:03:39 <t0mless> JakeWharton why is my SherlockDialogFragment not honoring the minWidthMinor dimension?
Mar 24 23:03:54 <t0mless> hrm
Mar 24 23:03:58 <t0mless> wonder what happens with a 4.0 phone
Mar 24 23:07:59 <t0mless> Looks boss on 4.0....
Mar 24 23:22:15 <t0mless> http://imgur.com/ZQcK0 :(
Mar 24 23:24:07 <t0mless> maybe I'll try overriding the onCreateDialog and use an AlertDialog.builder()
Mar 24 23:24:34 <cconstantine_> I have a view that I animate in with a translation, is there anyway to animate it out with another translation?
Mar 24 23:24:38 <SimonVT> haha
Mar 24 23:24:41 <SimonVT> Looking good
Mar 24 23:25:00 <cconstantine_> I tried creating another Animation object and calling setAnimation() on the view with it, but it doesn't seem to do anything
Mar 24 23:25:23 <t0mless> did you remember to call start() ?
Mar 24 23:25:49 <cconstantine_> no?
Mar 24 23:25:55 <cconstantine_> didn't have to call it the first time
Mar 24 23:26:00 <cconstantine_> didn't hlep
Mar 24 23:26:37 <cconstantine_> now, startAnimation instead of setAnimation...
Mar 24 23:27:06 <cconstantine_> thanks :)
Mar 24 23:48:35 <t0mless> hrm
Mar 24 23:48:45 <t0mless> if I use the AlertDialog.Builder it doesn't have the issue
Mar 24 23:49:01 <t0mless> but if I do that, I can't set a custom content view
Mar 24 23:49:16 <NutterzUK> If I want to preload images which are used in an XML layout, is there a fast way to load all of that xml layout in an async task, or do I need to get each image, decode it to a bitmap ( before the activity starts ), take the src="image.png" off the imageviews and then set the source in the onCreate method to the preloaded bitmap.... is there an easier way?
Mar 24 23:51:13 <MDijkstra> NutterzUK: what would you gain by preloading?
Mar 24 23:51:16 <NutterzUK> Looking into layoutinflater but not sure i'm in the right place
Mar 24 23:51:27 <NutterzUK> When I start the activity, it's taking a while to load
Mar 24 23:51:33 <MDijkstra> NutterzUK: either you delay the start of the activity by preloading
Mar 24 23:51:46 <MDijkstra> in which case you don't gain anything
Mar 24 23:51:50 <NutterzUK> I was wanting to load it during a splash screen
Mar 24 23:51:58 <MDijkstra> ah, so in a different activity
Mar 24 23:52:09 <MDijkstra> bad idea, usually
Mar 24 23:52:11 <t0mless> Isn't there an ImageLoader utility for just that?
Mar 24 23:52:26 <NutterzUK> I'm fairly new, why is it a bad idea?
Mar 24 23:52:35 <NutterzUK> new to Android dev *
Mar 24 23:52:38 <MDijkstra> NutterzUK: better to just show a activity indicator while the images are being loaded
Mar 24 23:52:54 <NutterzUK> The thing is, my app goes like this...
Mar 24 23:52:55 <MDijkstra> NutterzUK: because activities are assumed to be semi-independent
Mar 24 23:52:59 <NutterzUK> splash -> main menu -> play
Mar 24 23:53:05 <NutterzUK> between main menu, and play... there is a long wait
Mar 24 23:53:10 <NutterzUK> I'm trying to move as much out of onCreate as I can
Mar 24 23:54:30 <NutterzUK> I could put a loading view on the main game, but was hoping to avoid that
Mar 24 23:54:38 <NutterzUK> on the main (play) activity
Mar 24 23:54:53 <MDijkstra> NutterzUK: erm, I'd load the images in an asynctask after the play activity contentview is displayed
Mar 24 23:54:57 <MDijkstra> and then fade them in
Mar 24 23:55:55 <MDijkstra> that or simply integrate main menu and play in one activity
Mar 24 23:56:01 <NutterzUK> hmm, that's a good idea
Mar 24 23:56:41 <NutterzUK> The menu has other options - leaderboard, help, settings etc so I was wanting to not put it all together
Mar 24 23:57:09 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Ok I need formatting help.
Mar 24 23:57:39 <NutterzUK> Thanks though MDijkstra, some good food for thought... I'll look into making them fade in as they're loaded
Mar 24 23:57:40 <T-Dub|DlolPics> I have drawable-hdpi,idpi,mdpi in both my bin>res folder and in my just res folder
Mar 24 23:57:51 <T-Dub|DlolPics> I also have layout, values, and anim in my normal res file.
Mar 24 23:58:01 <MDijkstra> NutterzUK: you could also implement your original idea, but it creates a lot of corner cases regarding memory usage
Mar 24 23:58:24 <T-Dub|DlolPics> In my bin file I have classes.dex nameOfApp.apk and resources.ap_. Can anyone tell me which isn't supose to be there? Should I not have any drawables in bin>res?
Mar 24 23:58:31 <MDijkstra> NutterzUK: if you just create one giant singleton holding the bitmaps you could run out of memory
Mar 24 23:58:43 <SimonVT> T-Dub|DlolPics: Everything in bin/ is generated by the compiler
Mar 24 23:58:46 <SimonVT> Don't worry about it
Mar 24 23:58:49 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Oh
Mar 24 23:59:02 <T-Dub|DlolPics> So don't delete them, just ignore them?
Mar 24 23:59:08 <SimonVT> Just ignore
Mar 24 23:59:20 <NutterzUK> MDijkstra: I asked about memory the other day on here, worked out that it *should* have enough memory. I've just got to be careful with it. The images should be around 5-6mb
Mar 24 23:59:25 <T-Dub|DlolPics> The file that's .apk is that am actual apk? Like can I copy that and give it away for beta testing for example
Mar 24 23:59:26 <SimonVT> A clean build will delete and regenerate
Mar 24 23:59:37 <SimonVT> Yes, that's your app
Mar 24 23:59:45 <SimonVT> Most likely with a debug certificate
Mar 24 23:59:54 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Legit. But that isn't the correct apk to upload to the market, right?
Mar 25 00:00:16 <SimonVT> Right
Mar 25 00:00:27 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Sweet. Thanks.
Mar 25 00:00:31 <MDijkstra> NutterzUK: you should really optimize them
Mar 25 00:00:40 <MDijkstra> or load them in tiles
Mar 25 00:01:13 <T-Dub|DlolPics> I just did clean and it deleted everything in bin like you said. But it never re-made them.
Mar 25 00:01:26 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Is there something I can do to remake them? Like if I wanted to give away the apk for testing purposes.
Mar 25 00:01:47 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Oh nvm. Launching it in the emulator remade them
Mar 25 00:03:06 <Absolute-Don> yes you are xD
Mar 25 00:04:27 <NutterzUK> I was looking into ways to optimize yesterday, i'm going to try to keep them down
Mar 25 00:04:39 <NutterzUK> actually.. some of them don't need to be images, I can recreate in java rather than storing as images
Mar 25 00:05:02 <NutterzUK> Some of them are just coloured boxes with text on, easy enough to do without image files
Mar 25 00:20:49 <Napalm> NutterzUK: you should use shape drawables for solid or gradient fills
Mar 25 00:21:16 <NutterzUK> Thanks Napalm
Mar 25 00:21:28 <NutterzUK> That's what I need to do, could cut down on a lot of images
Mar 25 00:22:05 <pikapp> I have an ListActivity that is reading contents from a databse which is updated by a service, however at first run the database will be empty and I want to display a ProgressDialog and download the initial databases, whats the best way of detecting if the databse has not been creating?
Mar 25 00:22:33 <pikapp> Specifically, I want to write an if statement that checks to see if the databse has not been created or if accessing the database file throws a FileNotFoundException
Mar 25 00:22:49 <pikapp> I am not sure what the condition would be on the if statement though
Mar 25 00:24:53 <pflock> how do I read the location out of the .readLocation()-output?
Mar 25 00:27:09 <Napalm> pikapp: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/database/sqlite/SQLiteDatabase.html#openDatabase%28java.lang.String,%20android.database.sqlite.SQLiteDatabase.CursorFactory,%20int,%20android.database.DatabaseErrorHandler%29
Mar 25 00:27:28 <Napalm> pikapp: read the Throws? SQLiteException 	if the database cannot be opened
Mar 25 00:28:33 <pikapp> I guess my problem is that it will always onCreate() and make an empty one if it is empty
Mar 25 00:28:51 <pikapp> I guess what I am trying to do should go there
Mar 25 00:29:28 <pikapp> Because it will never throw an error with my existing code it seems, because it will just call the databse creation query to create a blank table
Mar 25 00:29:35 <Napalm> pikapp: you should probably use a Loader also
Mar 25 00:30:07 <pikapp> Napalm: I have been reading about those, I am targeting API 7 and up, so should I still look into those?
Mar 25 00:30:17 <pikapp> I read they were 3.0 and up
Mar 25 00:30:23 <Napalm> they are in the compatibility/support pack
Mar 25 00:30:35 <Napalm> http://developer.android.com/sdk/compatibility-library.html
Mar 25 00:30:58 <Napalm> back later
Mar 25 00:31:05 <pikapp> thanks again
Mar 25 00:45:31 <canadiancow> holy bitch
Mar 25 00:45:32 <canadiancow> fuck balls
Mar 25 00:45:37 <canadiancow> airpush is spamming my email
Mar 25 00:45:42 <canadiancow> HAI PLEASE USE US IN YOUR APPS
Mar 25 00:46:05 <HacDan> maybe you should take them up on their offer ;)
Mar 25 00:47:00 <canadiancow> maybe i should spam them with ads for my app
Mar 25 00:47:19 <T-Dub|DlolPics> It's probably a php script with a random email name
Mar 25 00:47:24 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Aka, they'll never get the emails.
Mar 25 00:47:36 <canadiancow> todd@airpush.com
Mar 25 00:47:38 <canadiancow> or something like that
Mar 25 00:47:50 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Seems like a real email.
Mar 25 00:50:37 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Are there any "do nots" for putting underscores in your xml file names? Specifically any within anim. And also can I put numbers/capitals?
Mar 25 00:51:28 <wagaf> Hi
Mar 25 00:51:42 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Sup
Mar 25 00:52:07 <wagaf> Is it possible to use VM hardware emulation on Linux with SDK Tools 17 ?
Mar 25 00:52:28 <cr5315> Can you open a dialog while you have another diakog open?
Mar 25 00:52:32 <cr5315> Or is it one at a time?
Mar 25 00:53:54 <wagaf> cuz in the doc its mentionned "MacOS and Windows", but they also give instructions for Linux
Mar 25 00:54:34 <HacDan> cr5315: afaik only one dialog at a time. Why would you want to open two? User can only interact with one at a time =/
Mar 25 00:55:00 <HacDan> wagaf: yes, that will work just fine.
Mar 25 00:55:04 <SimonVT> Language, canadiancow !
Mar 25 00:55:19 <canadiancow> as if airpush spamming phoens wasnt bad enough
Mar 25 00:55:21 <canadiancow> now they're spamming devs
Mar 25 00:55:26 <canadiancow> someone needs to go punch them in the face
Mar 25 00:55:41 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Ok anyone want to help me out. The explenation will probably take a while so you must have time. It's a Java question, not specifically android. And you'll probably laugh but I just dont know :s
Mar 25 00:55:44 <SimonVT> All those crappy ad networks spam
Mar 25 00:56:13 <SimonVT> "We have partners about to launch $10 mil ad compaigns and they have requested to serve ads in your app, so please contact us!"
Mar 25 00:56:48 <wagaf> HacDan: thanks, how do you create new AVD for x86 ? I only have ARM in the list...
Mar 25 00:57:07 <MDijkstra> install the x86 system image
Mar 25 00:57:18 <MDijkstra> afaik it's only available for API lvl 10 atm
Mar 25 00:59:13 <wagaf> ok i see. thanks :-)
Mar 25 01:02:26 <SimonVT> gib api15 x86 emulator
Mar 25 01:02:45 <pflock> can I set scripts to always run in the background and e.g. be run every hour?
Mar 25 01:08:23 <readme> pflock: scripts? what kind?
Mar 25 01:08:32 <pflock> python
Mar 25 01:08:47 <`z> pflock, cron?
Mar 25 01:08:48 <readme> you can definitely execute tasks periodically, it's just a matter of finding the glue or writing it
Mar 25 01:09:03 <readme> I wonder if android-scripting already has this feature
Mar 25 01:09:50 <readme> if you have the boilerplate java code used to launch a python script with android-scripting, you can simply launch it with AlarmManager
Mar 25 01:09:55 <pflock> I already have the script I need. I only need it to be run periodically in the background, also if the phone is restartet
Mar 25 01:10:03 <T-Dub|DlolPics> where in the api can I find stuff for xml
Mar 25 01:10:22 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Like I'm trying to find what the different tags are in xml for the translate layout
Mar 25 01:10:23 <readme> T-Dub|DlolPics:  http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/x-android/
Mar 25 01:10:29 <readme> oh, you mean the docs
Mar 25 01:10:31 <T-Dub|DlolPics> But I can only find the java method
Mar 25 01:10:33 <T-Dub|DlolPics> yeah sorry
Mar 25 01:10:35 <T-Dub|DlolPics> docs
Mar 25 01:10:44 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Like I found http://developer.android.com/reference/android/animation/LayoutTransition.TransitionListener.html
Mar 25 01:10:49 <T-Dub|DlolPics> But it's just the java method
Mar 25 01:11:00 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Not the xml permitters and stuff
Mar 25 01:11:10 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Is there like a filtering I can do to find the xml?
Mar 25 01:12:03 <romainguy__> T-Dub|DlolPics: look at the documentation of the View class
Mar 25 01:12:14 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Oh yeah
Mar 25 01:12:22 <T-Dub|DlolPics> everything you see is a view, including layouts
Mar 25 01:12:24 <T-Dub|DlolPics> thanks
Mar 25 01:16:19 <pflock> there has to be a simple way to automate scripts??
Mar 25 01:18:00 <SimonVT> Hm, canadiancow
Mar 25 01:25:18 <rgravener> how do I force my app to the background so that onCreate has its bundle not being null?
Mar 25 01:30:21 <rgravener> hewwo?
Mar 25 01:30:57 <wbooze> i think it's the 3pm time
Mar 25 02:00:55 <T-Dub|DlolPics> How can you apply two animations to a view at the same time
Mar 25 02:01:09 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Using like a = AnimationUtils.loadAnimation(this, R.anim.splash_alpha_delay_four); viewVar.startAnimation(a)
Mar 25 02:01:21 <T-Dub|DlolPics> Like if I wanted to apply a alpha and a translate at the same time. Is that possible?
Mar 25 02:07:55 <mgmuscari> i'm putting together a broadcastreceiver that records a variety of sensor values every time an SMS or phone call is received, for collecting data for a data mining project i'm working on. what's the preferred design for requesting a location update from a broadcastreceiver, which will then assemble that information into a single entry in some sort of record (e.g. flat file)
Mar 25 02:09:30 <mgmuscari> as near as i can tell the only really correct way to do this is to launch a service that runs for some amount of time, but i'm not sure how to coordinate the service with the broadcastreceiver for writing out the final record
Mar 25 02:11:01 <canadiancow> [21:18:00] <SimonVT> Hm, canadiancow
Mar 25 02:11:01 <canadiancow> yes?
Mar 25 02:12:50 <`z> Hm, canadiancow
Mar 25 02:12:59 <`z> ;o
Mar 25 02:13:00 <canadiancow> WAT WAT WAT DO YOU WANT
Mar 25 02:13:15 <`z> I WANT
Mar 25 02:13:16 <`z> nothing
Mar 25 02:15:12 <mgmuscari> hmmm... can i request a location fix and send along a tag with it?
Mar 25 02:17:08 <mgmuscari> e.g., i create a record in an sqllite database upon receipt of a an SMS_RECEIVED intent, then launch a service to acquire a location fix with another intent attached to it that includes the ID of the record in the database... when the service terminates after a timeout or receiving a fix, it will update the record with the location
Mar 25 02:23:27 <canadiancow> mgmuscari, dont you just want the most current location anyway?
Mar 25 02:23:32 <canadiancow> im not sure a tag is useful
Mar 25 02:26:13 <mgmuscari> canadiancow: well
Mar 25 02:26:21 <mgmuscari> yeah
Mar 25 02:26:30 <mgmuscari> i suppose that works
Mar 25 02:27:53 <mgmuscari> i think i'll tell it to time out after 30 seconds
Mar 25 02:28:06 <mgmuscari> i actually don't need the gps coords i think
Mar 25 02:28:10 <mgmuscari> coarse location should suffice
Mar 25 02:28:40 <canadiancow> you can also try "getLastKnownLocation()" or whatever it is
Mar 25 02:28:43 <canadiancow> and check the timestamp on it
Mar 25 02:29:41 <mgmuscari> ahhhhh
Mar 25 02:29:42 <mgmuscari> yes
Mar 25 02:29:45 <mgmuscari> i think that will suffice
Mar 25 02:29:55 <mgmuscari> it adds an interesting aspect to the project too
Mar 25 02:30:10 <mgmuscari> if i throw out the location if it's too stale, then i'll have some missing data points
Mar 25 02:58:35 <mgmuscari> man, does anyone else here still have problems with android sdk Javadoc slowing eclipse content assist and hovers to a crawl?
Mar 25 02:59:25 <canadiancow> i havent seen that in months
Mar 25 02:59:40 <mgmuscari> :|
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