**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 02 02:59:58 2012 Apr 02 03:44:59 Guys, i have a design question. As a user, would you prefer to have an app that load faster but have over 3000 compress files in your SDCard, or would you prefer an app that is slightly slower but have the same data on a SQLlite database and in 1 file Apr 02 03:46:52 anyone ? Apr 02 03:46:56 3000 files? bloody hell ... Apr 02 03:47:04 Depending on the data, I would guess using SQLite is the optimal method. Apr 02 03:47:27 bankai_: Ya.. manpages Apr 02 03:47:54 porter1: that's why i think too.. Apr 02 03:49:35 aww man pages :) Apr 02 03:49:39 Since manpages are just text, you shouldn't have much problem with them in SQLite, unless the user is expecting to be able to manually change the manpages on their sdcard or something like that Apr 02 03:50:43 bankai_: shameless plug https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oscd.manpages&hl=en Apr 02 03:51:21 My eclipse is not showing the layout editor - it's not starting it fully. Palette is missing items, layout intention (car dock etc) isn't shown... what's stopping it from loading fully? Apr 02 03:51:21 lyxus: are you pre-rendering the man pages to html or something? Apr 02 03:51:28 i can't say i'd really sit up at night reading man pages, but it's nice to know some loser has made an app like this :) Apr 02 03:51:47 vadi2: try restarting it, eclipse has issues rendering stuff for me sometimes Apr 02 03:51:56 porter1: The data is compressed too Apr 02 03:52:03 bankai_: nah, that could be really useful for the time your server is knackered and you need to look up some stuff to fix it Apr 02 03:52:14 Leeds: that s the next release : ) Apr 02 03:52:26 yeah coz man pages are so inaccessible :S Apr 02 03:52:34 bankai_: derp. Yeah, it's happy now. Apr 02 03:52:36 i like the idea, it's geeky Apr 02 03:52:47 bankai_: they might be if you're remote-accessing a server for emergency stuff Apr 02 03:53:00 http://manpages.ubuntu.com is pretty great for manpages Apr 02 03:53:08 so is the man command Apr 02 03:53:19 vadi2: when u have internet :) Apr 02 03:53:29 Yeah Apr 02 03:53:42 bankai_: i agree with you, but sometimes, i like to read it on my tablet Apr 02 03:53:43 Not disqualifying the relevance of your app, could always come in handy Apr 02 03:54:01 last time I did anything significantly remotely - I was on an SGS2 sitting in Chinese theme park, using a 2G connection - the more I had locally, the better Apr 02 03:55:05 Leeds: ahahah, you will like the next release, HTML rendering and manages based on the distribution of your choice :) Apr 02 03:55:05 lyxus: where'd you pull the data? Apr 02 03:55:15 slackware, obviously :D Apr 02 03:56:23 bankai_: I have sooooo many VM, Clean install, man2html + custom script Apr 02 03:56:52 ahh ok Apr 02 04:04:17 I'm just starting with android development and am trying to figure out why my linear layout is getting cut off after about 300px Apr 02 04:04:51 http://pastebin.com/2Cw7sKpL Apr 02 04:08:04 everything renders correctly in the graphical layout, but when i load it through the emulator the bottom buttons are cut off Apr 02 04:08:05 http://imgur.com/bBmWi Apr 02 05:01:50 my edit texts don't have any border or background. how do i make them look more like text fields? Apr 02 05:21:37 Fragment Compatibility question. I'd like to implement a Pager where the lifecycle of each Fragment is based on which Fragment is in view/visible. Apr 02 05:22:11 I've tried a a couple of tutorials and guides, based on ViewPager and they all seem to instantiate all Fragments at once. Apr 02 05:22:45 I'm using the v4 compatibility lib. Apr 02 05:30:55 how do i change the edit text cursor color? it doesn't use the text color or respect the textCursorDrawable attribute in my theme Apr 02 05:41:47 jasonmog: at least the latest source of TextView (Which EditText inherits from) does use the attribute textCursorDrawable to set the drawable for the cursor. Apr 02 05:41:55 maybe something is wrong with your code. Apr 02 05:43:43 no everything matches what others are doing. i just ended up using a workaround that sets it to null so that the edittext is forces to use the text color Apr 02 05:43:50 forced* Apr 02 05:49:45 exit Apr 02 06:12:57 good morning Apr 02 06:32:25 Has anyone written a keyboard? Apr 02 06:34:52 I;m writing a keyboard, anyone know how to modify stock coloring? Apr 02 06:34:57 I don't know of anyone who has - but I can think of at least 2 which are open source, if you want to check their code Apr 02 06:35:28 Leeds: which ones? Apr 02 06:35:46 hackers' keyboard... and the stock one! Apr 02 06:36:09 http://code.google.com/p/hackerskeyboard/source/browse/ Apr 02 06:37:12 I can't find the stock source online, do you know where that is? Apr 02 06:39:47 I'm not sure the official tree is easily browsable - it is available for git checkout, but I don't think there's a public front-end anymore Apr 02 06:49:20 I'm trying to display HTML containing JavaScript in my app using WebView.loadData. However, the first time I call loadData, the JavaScript is not executed. If I call it again, it is executed. I tried this on ZTE Blade running stock Android 2.2 and on Galaxy S2 running stock Android 2.3.6. Any clue why this might be happening? Apr 02 06:50:01 I am doing getSettings().setJavascriptEnabled(true) before each call to loadUrl Apr 02 06:51:49 desu: not sure about why it works the second time and not the first. Did you call setJavascriptEnabled()? Apr 02 06:54:44 readme, yes, I am calling it before each call to loadData Apr 02 06:55:15 well I don't think your problem is that javascript doesn't work in webviews, because it does... so show some code. Apr 02 06:55:50 Alright, 'sec Apr 02 06:57:36 http://fpaste.org/oILg/ That's the code where I'm calling loadData Apr 02 06:59:47 desu: print the url Apr 02 06:59:49 both times Apr 02 07:00:20 readme, Sorry, I don't understand what you mean? Apr 02 07:00:25 oh, sorry Apr 02 07:00:29 you do use the other two arguments Apr 02 07:00:38 can I ask why you're URL encoding the HTML? Apr 02 07:01:13 I have some symbols in my HTML that make the WebView mess up. I google'd and found the solution to URL encode it. Apr 02 07:01:33 so everything works the first time, but not the second? Apr 02 07:01:46 if you capture the data from URLEncoder.encode the first and second time, is it the same exact data, both times? Apr 02 07:02:03 Yes Apr 02 07:02:15 write a test program that is just a WebView Apr 02 07:02:24 capture the data from URLEncoder.encode Apr 02 07:02:28 load it into the WebView manually Apr 02 07:02:30 does it work? Apr 02 07:02:51 If it does I'm going to have to guess the problem in your code is not in the snippet you pasted. Apr 02 07:03:07 Wait, shit, it's not exactly the same data. Apr 02 07:03:11 tada Apr 02 07:03:15 my work is done here Apr 02 07:03:38 Thanks to you, I figured it out.. D: Apr 02 07:03:43 There's a problem in my JS. Apr 02 07:03:51 Thanks, readme! Apr 02 07:03:53 :D Apr 02 07:03:54 * Snuffel tuts Apr 02 07:03:57 why is it so difficult to get an android project in eclipse in eclipse on another machine Apr 02 07:05:35 https://sourceforge.net/projects/laptimer/develop branch awesomeSauce Apr 02 07:09:29 If i make a new android projct, telling it to use the same files, none of the files get copied over. If i do it manually, i get heck loads of errors. Apr 02 07:09:38 If i import an existing project, it's not an android project. Apr 02 07:12:57 Jak_o_Shadows1: import existing project tends to work fine.. if it doesn't, try running android update project --path . --target # in the root directory of the project in question. Apr 02 07:13:19 also, you will need to set the compiler compliance level to 1.6 in project properties for most projects Apr 02 07:15:06 actually, I think the problem with copying the files over (or importing folders in eclipse) was taht I was overwriting classpath and a couple of crucial files. Apr 02 07:17:11 Jak_o_Shadows1, tried maven? Apr 02 07:17:30 it's really good at doing the same thing everywhere Apr 02 07:17:43 nope, no idea what that is. However, the emulator is launching now. (it's on a semi-netbook, so it'll be a while) Apr 02 07:31:03 i've got a view which is set on visibility GONE Apr 02 07:31:24 okay? Apr 02 07:31:38 now I want to progmatically set it to VISIBLE, and before I let it draw etc. get it's measured height Apr 02 07:31:44 so how big it's going to want to be Apr 02 07:31:51 any idea on how to do that? Apr 02 07:33:36 c'est pour le voice ? Apr 02 07:33:49 sorry... Apr 02 07:34:42 le voice de france? Apr 02 07:34:59 How am I meant to look after my keystore? Apr 02 07:35:06 I gather it's stupid to put it up on git freely? Apr 02 07:36:46 Just keep it safe and keep backups... if you are to release stuff on market, you don't want to lose it Apr 02 07:37:02 Jak_o_Shadows1: yes, that is not a good place to put it... Apr 02 07:37:17 alowaniak: you can extend View and override onMeasure Apr 02 07:37:58 right, so shove it on a usb and put it somewhere safe? Apr 02 07:38:58 I would back it up with security appropriate for your level of risk Apr 02 07:39:14 ... how would that help exactly...? I just want onMeasure to be called so I can use getMeasuredHeight() to get it Apr 02 07:39:37 alowaniak: because by overriding it, you can define your own callback Apr 02 07:39:49 then have that callback be called after on measure, so that you can use getMeasuredHeight Apr 02 07:39:50 Jak_o_Shadows1: Just make sure that if your USB memory dies, you have backups... Apr 02 07:40:07 just make a callback that calls super.onMeasure then calls your method Apr 02 07:40:18 why would I need that though? Apr 02 07:40:19 Jak_o_Shadows1: you just include it in the off-site backups you're already doing... right? Apr 02 07:40:21 Jak_o_Shadows1: this is all in the docs though Apr 02 07:40:24 measurement is done in seperate thread or something? Apr 02 07:40:36 alowaniak: because isn't your problem that calling getMeasuredHeight returns the wrong value because it happens before onMeasure is called? Apr 02 07:40:58 well i don't know, I don't know how I can let it call onMeasure at all tbh Apr 02 07:41:12 (before it's drawn) Apr 02 07:41:28 alowaniak: views call onMeasure themselves, after they are measured, which is I think is sometime after they are displayed. Apr 02 07:41:46 if you try to call getMeasuredHeight/Width before onMeasure is called, you get garbage Apr 02 07:42:01 zeros, that is Apr 02 07:44:51 alowaniak: perhaps if you explain what you want to accomplish instead someone can help you? Apr 02 07:51:57 well what I actually want is; I've got a list and when there's been clicked on an item in it, I want it to slide down some content (like an expandable list but then with it sliding instead of immediatly showing) Apr 02 07:52:07 but I'm thinking about doing it differently anyways... Apr 02 07:52:42 it might look nicer to make it slide to the right (to a new fragment or something) to show the new list... Apr 02 07:52:48 i'm thinking framelayout and an animation for the 'new' content Apr 02 07:54:40 http://developer.android.com/resources/samples/USB/MissileLauncher/src/com/android/missilelauncher/MissileLauncherActivity.html in the functin onCreate, there's a R.layout.launcher and an R.id.fire what are these and where is R declared? Apr 02 07:54:56 R is generated Apr 02 07:55:11 it contains ID's Apr 02 07:55:52 alowaniak: whree can I find more information on how / why it's generated, and what it's for? Apr 02 07:56:33 jnewt: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/resources/index.html Apr 02 08:00:33 is there a way to know, from looking at that, what type of resource R refers to, and the name of the file it's defined in? Apr 02 08:00:49 no they're ints Apr 02 08:01:04 what they are should follow from R..name Apr 02 08:01:13 R.layout or R.color etc Apr 02 08:01:37 although they're sometimes R.id.foo, which doesn't tell you Apr 02 08:02:01 ah, so one is a layout, the othere is an id, and theyre provided in an unknown file, maybe in the res folder? Apr 02 08:02:05 yes but at least you know that's a widget in a layout Apr 02 08:02:14 for sure in the res folder Apr 02 08:02:45 but R.string.bla may be in another file than /res/strings.xml Apr 02 08:03:22 also there may be multiple files with a string resource called bla but that's when you deal with multiple configurations so no worries yet Apr 02 08:03:23 it's up to you to know your resources - or to manage them, if you're working in a team Apr 02 08:04:19 i'm not working in a team, and i'm trying to know my resources, because without a team, you're right, it's all up to me. Apr 02 08:09:26 So I'm making an app with multiple activities that fetches posts through httprequests. The posts, which are fetched using an AsyncTask, populate a ListView in each Activity. Now, I've been more or less successfully implemented a ViewPager that flips between Fragments. Apr 02 08:10:17 However, when the application launches, all the Fragments get instantied and start running their respective AsyncTask, all at once. I'd like to be able to hold off the AsyncTask until a Fragment comes into view. Apr 02 08:10:34 Is this possible or should I go about this some other way? Apr 02 08:11:32 Hi, does anybody know a way to use the camera whilst the screen is turned off (PARTIAL_WAKE_LOCK doesn't seem to help)? thanks. Apr 02 08:12:05 To clarify. I'm used to talking about Activities, but Fragments seem to be the new and improved way of doing more or less the same thing. Which in this case means I'm using one Fragment for each Page. Apr 02 08:16:25 Hello :) just got started with eclipse.. and just trying to set a background image. Apr 02 08:16:35 coffe: background image on what? Apr 02 08:17:41 coffe: to set a background in a xml layout file, you can use: android:background="@drawable/bg" Apr 02 08:17:41 Untouchab1e, i did the hello world example, and i found in eclipse a other view where i could drag and drop add oblejcs. i just like to have a background image of my app .. Apr 02 08:18:06 when should i call unRegisterReceiver? Apr 02 08:18:12 I suggest using the visual designer as little as possible and stick to writing the xml and simply previewing the changes in the designer Apr 02 08:18:20 on pause? destroy? stop? Apr 02 08:18:29 jasonmog depends! onpause most often i think Apr 02 08:18:34 okay Apr 02 08:18:38 depends... Apr 02 08:18:43 Untouchab1e, okey, tnx.. i am new to java. Apr 02 08:18:52 coffe: your question has nothing to do with Java ;) Apr 02 08:18:59 but good luck :) Apr 02 08:19:44 Untouchab1e, ok i am new to both java and android development := Apr 02 08:19:45 :) Apr 02 08:20:24 ;) Apr 02 08:20:36 I recommend the notepad tutorial to get you up to speed Apr 02 08:20:54 coffe: http://developer.android.com/resources/tutorials/notepad/index.html Apr 02 08:21:00 Tnx... Apr 02 08:37:08 Does anybody know if there is a list of devices which can use the camera when the screen is off ? Apr 02 08:42:00 why would it be an issue? Apr 02 08:42:27 or rather, what's wrong with requiring the screen to be on Apr 02 08:43:16 it could be a power saving feature, when the screen goes off, it also puts other connected devices into sleep mode Apr 02 08:43:19 To conserve battery life on an app which take a photo every 10 seconds and runs off a battery Apr 02 08:43:43 lukejohn_osmahi: i have a possible solution Apr 02 08:43:56 lukejohn_osmahi: hold a cpu wake lock only, rather than the screen wake lock Apr 02 08:44:20 Hang on, if i have an activity with an always updating activity (network/gps/changing text), will the screen go off? Apr 02 08:44:53 lukejohn_osmahi: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/PowerManager.html read the top of the page PARTIAL_WAKE_LOCK Apr 02 08:44:59 Jak_o_Shadows: absolutely, unless you tell the system to keep the screen on - and eat your users' batteries Apr 02 08:46:25 yes I've tried using a partial_wake_lock and it doesnt seem to work on the device I am testing on, however I found which suggests that it may only be some devices that PARTIAL_WAKE_LOCK doesn't work for Apr 02 08:47:47 Leeds: Is there a simple method to keep it on? It seems like it should be in settings rather than code. (For my app, battery life is a huge issue, so we ignore it) Apr 02 08:48:17 thanks for the suggestion though. Apr 02 08:49:25 Jak_o_Shadows: http://developer.android.com/search.html#q=wake lock&t=0 Apr 02 08:52:56 lukejohn_osmahi: are you trying to keep the bright LED on the back of your phone on? Apr 02 08:53:54 no, I'm trying to switch the screen off to conserve power, but still take photos Apr 02 08:55:59 lukejohn_osmahi: i assume you've tried the DIM lock Apr 02 08:56:03 thats what ive seen used before Apr 02 08:56:09 in a similar app Apr 02 08:57:18 Untouchab1e, i am reading it .. but it says i should look in R.java.. but cant find it. Apr 02 08:59:08 coffe: R.java is generated from your res\ folder in your project Apr 02 08:59:22 coffe: you dont actually edit or maintain R.java Apr 02 09:00:07 Napalm, ok, its not there ..will try to run project and see if i can see it Apr 02 09:02:13 can I set layout_width to be relative to height? Apr 02 09:02:24 like say 80%height or something Apr 02 09:02:40 morning Apr 02 09:04:23 @zhulikas i think you can do this only in the java code - not in the xml file Apr 02 09:04:34 I see... Apr 02 09:04:41 well, that's what I am going to do now Apr 02 09:05:45 hey guys anyone know of any documentation on how to hook an already coded app which is done in c/c++ into an android app with the ndk Apr 02 09:06:54 You can't just use it without rewriting it for android anyways Apr 02 09:07:09 Mikellip: what do you mean? Apr 02 09:07:53 eagles0513875_: if you haven't written the code with the Android NDK, you need to do so... http://developer.android.com/sdk/ndk/index.html Apr 02 09:08:04 you shitting me O_O Apr 02 09:08:06 no Apr 02 09:08:11 Napalm: Yes the DIM lock works but I was hoping for less battery. I'll probs stick with DIM for now, thanks for your help Apr 02 09:08:16 well this is going to be a bitch on this huge project Apr 02 09:08:28 Mikellip: and the project I'm talking about is libreoffice the OOo fork Apr 02 09:08:44 hello Apr 02 09:09:00 good luck with that eagles0513875_ Apr 02 09:09:11 Mikellip: i have the ndk installed and I'm able to actually able to compile the code for android Apr 02 09:09:20 i just need to tie it in somehow with the UI I'm putting together for it Apr 02 09:10:12 i can't seem to get my host functionality working on my tablet. i've got a microcontroller tha enumerates as an hid device, but it isn't even recognized by android (works fine on win / nix) I have a sample app to use with it, but that doesn't help. but anyway, i know it's the tablet now for sure. Apr 02 09:12:21 Dark-Side: thanks :D Apr 02 09:12:34 jnewt: you have a shitty crappy Chinese crappy tablet Apr 02 09:14:13 Leeds: ok, i'll buy a new tablet. how do i choose one I know will work? Apr 02 09:14:28 you buy one from a real brand? Apr 02 09:14:54 you read up on Android's USB functionality? Apr 02 09:15:03 you take your accessory with you to the store to test it? Apr 02 09:16:35 I'd like to know where the differences are, and what causes the incompatibility Apr 02 09:18:00 presumably you're willing to pay consultancy rates to people to hold you hand when choosing? Apr 02 09:18:04 come on... Apr 02 09:18:44 i am willing to pay for a solid data backed answer to that question. It could save me a lot of time. Apr 02 09:20:51 If you want to call it hand holding, that's fine. I think no one knows and that's an excuse, meant to make me feel that it's easy, and I'm somehow deficient. Saying something is crappy, shitty, not real, brand is wrong, is just dodging the question. Come on... Apr 02 09:27:06 hi Does anyone one of you know a way how to use the AudioRecord and the RecognizerIntent at the same time? Apr 02 10:18:19 does the android sdk work with 64bit java nowadays? Apr 02 10:20:32 if I "adb install x.apk", is it just as i would update my app via the play shop? Apr 02 10:20:52 yes, except the market - play store! - doesn't know about it, so it won't get updates Apr 02 10:20:53 Or is it as if I would completely uninstall and reinstall the "x.apk" Apr 02 10:21:14 Leeds: Ah, okay. That's fine! :) Apr 02 10:21:24 Don't care, its just for testing purposes^^ Apr 02 10:25:23 Leeds: Are you sure it is "adb install"? as i get an "INSTALL_FAILED_ALREADY_EXISTS" error Apr 02 10:25:42 adb uninstall it first Apr 02 10:26:01 or "adb install -r" to reinstall Apr 02 10:26:09 oh, nice Apr 02 10:26:24 That wouldnt be exactly as a play shop update, right? Apr 02 10:26:35 I don't want the data (databases, shared preferences) to be lost Apr 02 10:27:39 RTFM, folks Apr 02 10:27:59 #done, thanks. Apr 02 10:31:22 When should I use Log.v vs Log.d - I find myself just using verbose as default Apr 02 10:31:56 samsung touchwiz developers like to use Log.e for printing verbose messages in their widgets Apr 02 10:31:59 it's lovely Apr 02 10:32:03 logcat is just almost all red Apr 02 10:32:16 haha oh dear! Apr 02 10:32:27 yay for filters Apr 02 10:33:19 not sure I've posted a link to http://android.vmlinuz.org/bbp.html recently... Apr 02 10:34:43 Leeds: looks, thanks I'll have a read. Apr 02 10:38:28 @Zharf - i think you must install ia-32 packet in ubuntu and it should work Apr 02 10:41:24 kselos, I'm on windows Apr 02 10:46:18 well at least ddms works Apr 02 10:59:18 hi Apr 02 10:59:58 is here any tool for extracting .apk and showing on what architecture in can be launched ? Apr 02 11:00:27 for example i had а mips based tabled and i want to code а tool for detecting if it can run on my device Apr 02 11:19:37 is it possible to have one textview and have 2 differnet colours for some of the text? Apr 02 11:21:23 yepp Apr 02 11:21:51 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1529068/is-it-possible-to-have-multiple-styles-inside-a-textview Apr 02 11:21:57 how I may launch my_method (not whole activity) for a response for specific action in the Android ? Apr 02 11:22:40 kselos: what kind of action? Apr 02 11:22:58 thanks man Apr 02 11:23:26 I am guessing you probably want to use a BroadcastReceiver, but I'll wait to see what you say. Apr 02 11:23:30 * everythingWorks got in-app billing workin 0o x) Apr 02 11:23:40 hi all: is it posible to have a sqlite db as a resource? Kind of like a database with the schema and some rows already filled. Apr 02 11:24:04 I have metod to generate galeryView with icon of instaled aplication in Android, and I want to regenerate this view in response for new packet instalation Apr 02 11:24:06 deviantpeer: no, but you may create it in the first start. Or you may copy it from the assets to the apps's dir. Apr 02 11:24:07 e1z0: an APK is a zip file, and if your only concerned about architecture then you just need to examine the ELF headers of any shared objects in the /lib directory Apr 02 11:24:25 e1z0: to see if they have a mips archive Apr 02 11:24:44 *mips arch signature Apr 02 11:25:38 everythingWorks: thx. creation at first star is what I was trying to avoid... why have every device do the same thing when it's be the same for all. copying it is probably a good solution. going to look at it. Apr 02 11:25:57 I know that BroadcastReceiver in response for that action can run an activity but I want only to run only the metod with regenerate that galleryView Apr 02 11:26:21 =) Apr 02 11:26:52 kselos: and where is the gallery view going to be displayed...? Apr 02 11:27:21 on the main activity Apr 02 11:27:42 oh ok Apr 02 11:28:11 Napalm, if i use unix tool "file" maybe it show me Apr 02 11:28:19 kselos: you can have a BroadcastReceiver *in* your Activity, and register it programmatically. Apr 02 11:28:23 I want to simply refresh this galleryView Apr 02 11:28:36 e1z0: you want objdump Apr 02 11:28:49 oh, ok Apr 02 11:31:51 readme: how register this BroadcastReceaver programmatically ? i always add to the manifest information about BroadcastReceiver and make a class with extends BroadcastReceiver Apr 02 11:32:12 In my ListView, I need to stack the items in my data source from Bottom of the listview. How to do this properly? Apr 02 11:32:41 kselos: yes Apr 02 11:32:58 sorry Apr 02 11:33:08 but in that case it wont works Apr 02 11:34:10 i must make some class extends Activity and implements BroadcastReceiver ? Apr 02 11:34:53 Hey, i've got a laptop with ubuntu on it for emulating the google-tv emulator device... also i have a developing mashine where my eclipse runs and my whole project is stored... how can i connect to the emulator on the laptop? I already tried several adb forward .... commands but none did work. Can somebody please explain me in detail how to achieve the connection to the emulator? Apr 02 11:35:08 but how i do it in manifest > Apr 02 11:38:29 I thought that only you can extend Actyvity or BroadcastReceiver but not both at once in the same class Apr 02 11:38:43 You could always declare a perl filter and then cascade a TDD agile framework while staying true to category-theoretical tail-recursion constraints in O(n log n) space. Apr 02 11:39:07 kselos: you can have inner classes Apr 02 11:39:38 http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/javaOO/innerclasses.html Apr 02 11:40:53 readme yes I know but how I add that information about inner class to Manifest ? Apr 02 11:41:11 kselos: you don't. you register the receiver programmatically Apr 02 11:41:53 how can i do that ? do you know some documentation about how to do that ? Apr 02 11:42:15 http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/intents/intents-filters.html Apr 02 11:42:19 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/BroadcastReceiver.html Apr 02 11:43:08 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/Context.html#registerReceiver%28android.content.BroadcastReceiver,%20android.content.IntentFilter%29 Apr 02 11:43:58 readme I think I asked this recently and was too drunk to register the response, so I'm going to have to ask it again. Apr 02 11:44:33 sucker Apr 02 11:44:55 freecandy: my memory isnt that good, so just ask Apr 02 11:45:07 Is there an example of you would use Log.v over Log.d and vise versa Apr 02 11:45:25 readme thanks very much - I owe you Apr 02 11:45:39 verbose is for users, and debug for developers? Apr 02 11:45:54 What is the point of an intent? It looks like a very inefficient way of calling into code, where you type a bunch of stuff that matches other stuff in an xml file that resolves into code that finally gets run. Apr 02 11:46:01 Snuffel: no verbose if definitely not for users. Apr 02 11:46:32 it usually is Apr 02 11:46:41 freecandy: they are for message passing/starting things/broadcasting, and are capable of IPC Apr 02 11:46:48 I am using ActionBarSherlock. I am trying to witch between those tabs using Fragments and TabListener. Any ideas why using ft.replace(R.id.root, mFragment); dettaches the fragment, then attaches it but it stays invisible? Apr 02 11:47:10 Insane Posse Clown or what is that? Apr 02 11:47:13 using isHidden() returns false, using isVisible() returns false and using isDetached() returns false. Apr 02 11:47:24 hello, is there a list of known security vulnerabilities for the different android versions and maybe information about if they are exploited in the wild? for example 2.3.7 Apr 02 11:47:25 But the onAttach executes fine. Apr 02 11:47:28 freecandy: using Intents you can make your components nice and loosely coupled Apr 02 11:47:43 I always thought intents were idealized for communication between different apps, but just happened to be capable of in-app communication, so thus in the interests of non-redundancy, kept like that. Apr 02 11:48:51 just because your code will still compile without pieces doenst mean it's loosely coupled Apr 02 11:49:14 So if I am the master of my domain, intents seem kind of silly. While if I were just a pawn in some jerk's universe, they would make sense. Apr 02 11:49:30 hey guys is it possible to get the android source code and compile it and install it in a vm? Apr 02 11:49:35 laxo: theres a security discussion group Apr 02 11:49:37 freecandy: when you are programming for android, you are *not* the master of your domain. Apr 02 11:49:38 try finding that Apr 02 11:49:50 freecandy: you are in a sandbox. you are on the user's device. Apr 02 11:50:14 freecandy: What else are you going to use for communication between different bits of code? You surely see the benefits in splitting it into seperate files? Apr 02 11:51:42 listeners? Apr 02 11:51:58 what do you normally use for communication between different bits of code in java? Apr 02 11:51:59 Jak_o_Shadows1: observer pattern Apr 02 11:52:03 Jak_o_Shadows1: global state Apr 02 11:52:09 Jak_o_Shadows1: tin can + strings Apr 02 11:52:49 For context, I'm coming from a place where we'd just be able to call a random method. We wouldn't have to have permission from the coder to call into it. There were public/private comments, but those were just guides. If you wanted [random piece of code] run, you'd just say run [random piece of code]. Apr 02 11:53:01 shared preferences! Apr 02 11:53:51 freecandy: public static void spaghetticode() { // call me anywhere } Apr 02 11:54:43 android can't force good programming on you, but it can make it attractive by providing you with all the tools required. Apr 02 11:55:00 well, they try, with strict mode, anyway Apr 02 11:55:15 but that's not going to catch spaghetti coders Apr 02 11:56:34 So I suck, but maybe I don't know what's available to me. Is it everything that's really fully advertised as an intent as blah.blah.blah.CAPS or is there more stuff that I can use? Apr 02 11:57:00 freecandy: if you are new to OOP it just takes a while to get the gist of it Apr 02 11:57:37 IntentServices are nice. Apr 02 11:57:50 freecandy: i recommend reading programmers.stackexchange.com, maybe getting a design patterns book, that should set you on the right track Apr 02 11:58:08 the best design patterns book is the gang of four book, but it is advanced.. start with something easier, then get that Apr 02 11:58:15 k thx Apr 02 11:58:17 good recommedation readme Apr 02 11:58:27 Which is the gang of four book? Apr 02 11:58:27 is it still april fools day? i just tried to autocomplete a word? Apr 02 11:58:37 mikedg: did you type it in morse? Apr 02 11:58:57 freecandy: it's called "Design Patterns" aka, the gamma book, aka, gang of four book. Apr 02 11:59:54 bookmarked Apr 02 12:00:25 that april fools app was reasonably clever. Apr 02 12:01:05 any1 know if you can put sql function thingy's in the columns array? Apr 02 12:01:17 like when you do query(table, columns Apr 02 12:01:36 if you can do count(some_column) Apr 02 12:01:43 I'm working on a pretty simple app that uses a library to handle all the clever stuff. Don't want to go into more detail, but is this a bad place for a developer to start out? Apr 02 12:01:59 and possibly even "count(some_column) as amount" Apr 02 12:02:01 ? Apr 02 12:02:17 Is there anything like BlueCove that supports x64 better? Apr 02 12:02:34 freecandy: nothing wrong with starting here as long as you at least know how to write java programs. Apr 02 12:02:41 which I'm fairly confident you do Apr 02 12:02:43 Hey, i've got a laptop with ubuntu on it for emulating the google-tv emulator device... also i have a developing mashine where my eclipse runs and my whole project is stored... how can i connect to the emulator on the laptop? I already tried several adb forward .... commands but none did work. Can somebody please explain me in detail how to achieve the connection to the emulator? Apr 02 12:03:47 Hah, thanks for that. I wouldn't hire me as a java dev. Apr 02 12:03:54 freecandy: but others would Apr 02 12:04:04 so we have to hold ourselves to high standards Apr 02 12:04:09 because hiring managers aren't going to Apr 02 12:05:44 wisdom Apr 02 12:05:54 barely Apr 02 12:05:59 i'm pretty noob myself Apr 02 12:06:32 <-- noob here Apr 02 12:06:53 alowaniak: hah i dont actually remember anymore Apr 02 12:06:54 heh Apr 02 12:06:57 did you try it Apr 02 12:06:59 should be simple to try Apr 02 12:07:23 well ye but i would have to make new activity with database etc. etc. so was hoping asking would be faster:p Apr 02 12:07:28 ah Apr 02 12:07:35 you can defnitely do that somehow :) Apr 02 12:07:41 it's just very early and im friggen tired Apr 02 12:07:53 so i cant think Apr 02 12:08:05 well I can do rawQuery Apr 02 12:08:28 but was hoping to do it with normal query Apr 02 12:08:36 will just try it out though:p Apr 02 12:10:48 What would you do? I have pngs which get decoded by BitmapFactory.. now the png seems to have transparent pixels and the decoding process seems to take transparent pixels as white ones Apr 02 12:10:48 hi, when I activate the wifi, Gmail automaticaly update, what can I do to do the same with a service ? Apr 02 12:10:55 it really looks shitty. Apr 02 12:11:09 ohw8 nvm i think i'll just use rawQuery Apr 02 12:12:13 alowaniak: Pretty sure you can just put "count(column) as amount" in the columns array query takes Apr 02 12:12:21 ah k, thnks:) Apr 02 12:13:16 hey guys curious how does one go about compiling a customized rom? Apr 02 12:15:53 eagles0513875: by getting the source from s.android.com and joining #android-root where they discuss custom roms Apr 02 12:16:59 readme: ok Apr 02 12:19:34 readme: i have a question about android development if i set up an ubuntu vm environment im just wondering can i use the openjdk instead of the sun java stuff? Apr 02 12:21:16 what's the name of the app that allows an emulated 'multi-user' setup? Apr 02 12:22:09 eagles0513875: it will work but is unsupported Apr 02 12:22:45 switchme Apr 02 12:24:00 does anyone knows how can I open a pdf file within the activity? Apr 02 12:24:35 Hi , anyway I can connect google tv device with usb host ports (only) to PC ? Apr 02 12:25:20 @zerecoteco: see this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2456344/display-pdf-within-app-on-android Apr 02 12:31:21 readme: ok Apr 02 12:35:17 ive got a tabhost and some tabs and the edges between the tabs and the content they show are sort of faded out, but the fade is too big, how do i adjust? i changed faded edge length to 2dp but it looks the same Apr 02 12:40:44 maybe 2.1 doesnt support this Apr 02 12:45:21 hmm adjusting fading edhe to none and even fading edge length has no affect at all on my tabs, whys this ? Apr 02 12:47:22 natrix, yes... I've already seen it... But I couldn't make it works Apr 02 12:47:46 does anybody know why android doesn't always execute the applyTransformation method of a custom animation? there are times it does, and other where it just skips it entirely Apr 02 12:48:01 natrix, have you already tried it? Apr 02 12:51:10 @zerecoteco: I'm worried about frying my android or PC usb ports Apr 02 12:56:22