**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 27 03:00:00 2012 Apr 27 03:08:13 hmm Apr 27 03:08:14 gimps Apr 27 03:08:41 is there a way to give users free copies of your app yet? Apr 27 03:08:47 besides sending apk? Apr 27 03:09:01 I got this on orientation change: 04-27 13:07:56.451: E/WindowManager(30521): Activity <>.Overview has leaked window com.android.internal.policy.impl.PhoneWindow$DecorView@405ccab0 that was originally added here 04-27 13:07:56.451: E/WindowManager(30521): android.view.WindowLeaked: Activity <>.Overview has leaked window com.android.internal.policy.impl.PhoneWindow$DecorView@405ccab0 that was originally added here Apr 27 03:09:24 What is this relevant to? No clue what a DecorView is. Apr 27 03:09:54 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2850573/activity-has-leaked-window-that-was-originally-added Apr 27 03:09:59 3 secs on google Apr 27 03:10:04 So there is no way to give users free copies of your paid app yet? Apr 27 03:10:18 sarcasteak, you could make the app 'free' with limited functionality, then send them a keycode to enable full access... Apr 27 03:10:23 sarcasteak: not that I know of besides sending apk and installing via unknown sources Apr 27 03:10:28 then i'm updating 2 apps Apr 27 03:10:37 so dumb Apr 27 03:11:05 really kills android kickstarter projects if you want to give people free app Apr 27 03:11:09 for donating Apr 27 03:11:45 you'll have to just send them apk's Apr 27 03:11:48 QubeZ: ah Apr 27 03:11:50 they can still update via Market later Apr 27 03:12:02 how can they? Apr 27 03:12:08 it won't be on their google account Apr 27 03:12:09 sarcasteak: I guess that's why humble bundle went their own app + download apk way, huh Apr 27 03:12:11 so they can't update Apr 27 03:12:14 oh wait, not paid yea... Apr 27 03:12:40 they can install over the one they already have installed as long as its an upgrade i.e. versionCode incremented Apr 27 03:13:00 yea vadi, but making a user install apk manually is not a good deployment method Apr 27 03:13:31 nope. I agree that this should be handled better. Apr 27 03:13:38 sarcasteak: if you want a few users to have it, then have them pay for it and then refund them Apr 27 03:13:55 even apple has promo codes Apr 27 03:14:57 yea qubez, that might not be too bad, but I was going to try to kickstart my 75% complete game, and I want to give them a free copy if they donate 5 dollars or w/e Apr 27 03:15:10 so in theory it could be thousands of people Apr 27 03:15:37 send request to google. when enough people want it, they'll make it Apr 27 03:16:08 google doesn't seem to be very responsive to customers/emails though Apr 27 03:16:16 its IT support is a ghost town Apr 27 03:16:32 maybe I'll give it a try though Apr 27 03:16:33 agreed. Apr 27 03:16:43 maybe I can get a lead dev's email address or something Apr 27 03:17:30 thx for info guys Apr 27 03:17:36 sarcasteak, put it on google groups. Apr 27 03:17:44 the devs are pretty active there apparently Apr 27 03:17:58 is there a specific community you recall? Apr 27 03:18:21 hmm how the hell can I insert a null for a column in sqlite if another row has null in the same place? For example, I am copying a row from my table into another row and the code is working for the most part but when say parentId is null, then after I do the copy it ends up as 0 inserted into next row. Apr 27 03:18:33 its from the getInt method, but I need to ensure null is added Apr 27 03:18:43 I guess getInt is interpreting null value as 0 Apr 27 03:44:38 http://thinkandroid.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/custom-cursoradapters/ Apr 27 03:44:59 Can anyone tell me if that code is best practice? It seems very inefficient to me but I am not very familiar with cursoradapter Apr 27 03:46:23 for one thing, the constructor he uses is deprecated. Google says to use a loadermanager and a cursorloader, but that seems like way too many levels of abstraction for my brain Apr 27 03:48:23 so use a loadermanager and cursorloader Apr 27 03:48:31 but too bad cursorloader must be used with contentproviders Apr 27 03:48:37 make your own AsyncTaskLoader Apr 27 03:48:45 =S Apr 27 03:49:06 all i want to do is list elements of a DB in a listview fragment Apr 27 03:54:47 regarding Google getting back to people, they finally got back to me after 3 months for my request to bump up my Google Places daily quota from 100,000 queries/day to 400,000. After I made two changes to my app, they up'd it. Apr 27 03:54:53 wooohooooo Apr 27 03:55:23 oh... QubeZ were you the GPS to-do guy? Apr 27 03:55:29 *nod* Apr 27 03:55:42 do you know the All About Android podcast? Apr 27 03:55:50 Leeds: no Apr 27 03:56:02 do you know TWiT? Apr 27 03:57:02 no Apr 27 03:57:07 okay, twit is a podcast network (and also the flagship show on that network), aaa is their Android podcast... Apr 27 03:57:10 man im feeling stupid and out of touch now hehe Apr 27 03:57:58 in this week's edition, they were talking about some hack with locale to get location-related to-dos to work, and one of them said that they thought remember the milk might do it... you might want to give it a listen and drop them a line, get yourself some on-air publicity Apr 27 03:58:24 http://twit.tv/show/all-about-android/57 Apr 27 03:58:38 nice, thanks for the heads up Apr 27 03:58:49 huh, how do loaders communicate errors to their clients? Apr 27 03:59:43 np Apr 27 03:59:49 Leeds: wonder why they would need a "hack", Google Places offers what one would need to implement location based tasks like To Do Mapr has implemented Apr 27 04:00:05 i'll give it a listen Apr 27 04:00:17 ( pfn ): I make my loaders return a specific result on error Apr 27 04:00:43 from their shownotes, they were talking about astrid and locale together - I suspect they mean setting an alert in locale to start astrid when you're in/near a specific location Apr 27 04:01:08 it was towards the end of the show if you don't feel like a long listen Apr 27 04:01:12 oh, that sounds like proximity alerts Apr 27 04:02:12 the listener query they were answering was "I'm looking for a app that notifies me my to do or tasks by location." Apr 27 04:02:56 t0mless, yeah, that's so halfassed Apr 27 04:03:10 a bit, yea Apr 27 04:03:12 Leeds: cool man, much appreciated. I'll see how I can post to their site. Apr 27 04:03:30 QubeZ: I think you want to listen to it, then email them... Apr 27 04:03:32 they could have easily made an onLoaderError() callback with the other ones Apr 27 04:03:45 Leeds: ya, thats what I meant. Listening now. Apr 27 04:09:17 I don't need or want a content provider to use my database. What ways can I provide database objects to a listview that do not involve this requirement? Apr 27 04:10:13 Leeds: you sure its this episode? 57 ? Apr 27 04:10:19 QubeZ: pretty sure Apr 27 04:10:35 oh ok you're right, i see it in their notes... trying to find the place Apr 27 04:10:40 i'll keep scrubbing through Apr 27 04:10:48 I did say near the end :) Apr 27 04:11:01 it must be short, i might have skipped it Apr 27 04:11:06 im scrubbing the last 20 mins Apr 27 04:11:26 ahh found it Apr 27 04:16:02 I wonder if guava has an either type Apr 27 04:19:24 huh, guava doesn't have a pair type? :( Apr 27 04:19:33 or a pear? Apr 27 04:21:31 I guess I'll have my loaders return a result object that contains the data Apr 27 04:21:51 guys, what is the difference between SimpleCursorAdapter.bindView() and SimpleCursorAdapter.newView()? Apr 27 04:22:34 and which one is called by the adapter when it increments the cursor? Apr 27 04:23:38 hesperaux: watch the listview from google i/o by romain guy. I watched that 1 hr vid and learned how to implmenet adapter + listview properly Apr 27 04:23:42 i.e. with viewholder pattern Apr 27 04:23:51 QubeZ, i've seen that video Apr 27 04:24:11 it doesn't talk about CursorAdapters, only ArrayAdapters if i recall Apr 27 04:24:45 i don't think he mentions bindView or newView either, only getView() Apr 27 04:29:22 i dont use getView, i only overwrote newView and bindView in my adapter Apr 27 04:29:29 for my adapter Apr 27 04:33:11 when the screen fades out during an alertdialog, is there a way to put a view over this fade out? Apr 27 04:34:41 hmm, how do loaders continuously update results Apr 27 04:36:05 hesperaux: see the CursorAdapter#getView() Apr 27 04:43:03 hi, how can i implement the scrollable tabs on this android desgin guidelines page http://bit.ly/Iv7OS2 ?s it just using a regualr tab layout with Apr 27 04:43:11 the ongesture function? Apr 27 04:45:33 dude isnt that just a viewpager? Apr 27 04:46:54 oh it is Apr 27 04:46:58 thanks! Apr 27 04:47:31 just beginning android development, so never came across it before Apr 27 04:49:29 my question was about the differences between getView, bindView, and newView. I don't understand why there is a discrepancy there, and most of the examples for SimpleCursorAdapter use bindView and newView but do not override getView. Apr 27 04:53:33 cursoradapter overrides getView method, and it calls newView to create just the 'new view' and bindView to bind the cursor data to that new view. Apr 27 04:55:10 http://bit.ly/I6fmZC Apr 27 04:55:11 could you tell me how android show gui without config_vt in kernel Apr 27 04:55:51 so my cursoradapter still needs to implement getView as usual using viewholders and all that Apr 27 04:56:49 ducky_h, good link. i'll examine what they've done tomorrow Apr 27 04:56:58 man I got a lead on a job making GOBS of cash Apr 27 04:58:29 ron_frown: makeGOBSofcash.com? Apr 27 04:58:40 Does the documentation at d.android.com assume a working knowledge of Java? Apr 27 04:58:44 anybody have tips on how to create a floating view alongside a dialog? Apr 27 04:58:55 mukti, definitely Apr 27 04:59:26 no its actually legit Apr 27 04:59:29 hesperaux, but if you don't care the cost of 'findViewById', I think inheriting CursorAdapter things is simple. Apr 27 05:00:08 i had intended to fix getView() as usual, but i'm still figuring out how it relates to bindview and newview Apr 27 05:00:38 http://goo.gl/M5r9J <-- how the ad is in focus and the main screen is fade out Apr 27 05:02:51 asynctasks and activities. how you note the tasks that activity is distroyed? Apr 27 05:06:57 what is something with higher scope than a transaction? Apr 27 05:07:01 i installed the google api and want to create an app that uses the apis. can it be tested in the emulator or can it only be tested on an actual device Apr 27 05:07:04 something that contains multiple transactions? Apr 27 05:07:38 looking solely for nomenclature Apr 27 05:07:46 devslash: you can build an AVD which has the Google APIs, or not Apr 27 05:07:55 JakeWharton: session? Apr 27 05:08:14 i installed the apis , added the line in the manifest but it still won't load Apr 27 05:08:27 devslash: you can build an AVD which has the Google APIs, or not... did you do that? Apr 27 05:08:39 does the maps app need to be installed in the emulator Apr 27 05:08:47 not initially Apr 27 05:08:58 then you need a new AVD Apr 27 05:08:59 i mean, when i created it, i didn't specift Apr 27 05:09:05 you can't modify an existing and ? Apr 27 05:09:08 avd Apr 27 05:09:13 to use it Apr 27 05:09:59 much easier to create a new one Apr 27 05:10:18 you could have created it and be waiting for it to boot by now :) Apr 27 05:10:23 weird Apr 27 05:10:51 i went to the sdk manager. i downloaded the api and it changed from not installed to installed but now it says not installed again Apr 27 05:11:42 I've seen that before too Apr 27 05:11:51 I think it was becuase I did an upgrade of the avd manager at the same time Apr 27 05:12:11 hmm Apr 27 05:19:40 Leeds: ok I'm booting the new avd now Apr 27 05:22:33 I getInt on my cursor for a column that is null but getInt returns 0 in cases where its null... anyone know how to handle this situation? Make it actually return "" or null so I can insert that value into my new row? Apr 27 05:22:42 I'm doing a duplicate row function Apr 27 05:22:50 taking frickin forever Apr 27 05:23:42 Leeds: is it normal for it to take longer to boot an and that uses the google api ? Apr 27 05:24:09 devslash: try the x86 android project, its fast Apr 27 05:24:22 um how does that work ? Apr 27 05:24:29 is that like a native emulator ? Apr 27 05:24:40 no, but it's normal for the first boot to take long enough to jump in the car, run out to a restaurant, wait for a table, spend a while reading the menu, have a starter, main course, dessert, back to the car, fill up with fuel on the way home, and find it's almost done booting when you get back Apr 27 05:24:58 no kidding Apr 27 05:25:03 you install the image as an instance in virtualbox then boot it and you can even hook eclipse right into it so you can push/pull and run code directly from eclipse Apr 27 05:25:32 i might have to do that. Apr 27 05:25:41 see this and see if it works for your needs: http://www.android-x86.org/ Apr 27 05:25:50 its super fast Apr 27 05:26:35 er... alternatively you use the virtualised images which are now provided in the SDK? Apr 27 05:29:38 i don't think that'd work for me Apr 27 05:29:51 how will that work since i need the google api Apr 27 05:30:11 devslash: the android-x86 ? Apr 27 05:30:18 yes on android-x86 Apr 27 05:31:49 true, well i guess if you want fast emu... you can use the intel based 2.2 emu image in the sdk Apr 27 05:32:04 otherwise, keep using the old ones and wait for the newer images to be released Apr 27 05:32:32 Leeds: if i connect my device to my computer via usb can i run the app on the device while logging output interactively ? Apr 27 05:32:52 devslash: thats what I do Apr 27 05:33:02 how ? Apr 27 05:33:09 I'm not talking about android-x86 Apr 27 05:33:11 i haven't used emu for development in about 6 months Apr 27 05:33:24 devslash: ya, i run my code directly on a HTC Incredible Apr 27 05:33:27 my test phone Apr 27 05:33:38 using android-x86 ? Apr 27 05:33:52 no, eclipse directly to my phone via usb Apr 27 05:33:56 devslash: yes, you can do that - there are pros and cons vs the emulator Apr 27 05:34:09 well I'm testing an app that uses the gps Apr 27 05:34:17 i prefer the phone for my dev because I do a lot of location-aware stuff and its just better to use the real hw Apr 27 05:34:26 and it doesn't seem to be responding. I'm wondering if the gps works properly in the emulator Apr 27 05:34:29 devslash: you can use emu and push gps coords to the emu via DDMS Apr 27 05:34:38 but I found it to be flaky Apr 27 05:34:44 hence, I use a real phone Apr 27 05:35:02 can anyone here tell me why NONE of the multiupload.com links (which everyone doing new roms seems to love to publish through) ever works for me? Apr 27 05:35:16 I440r: thats not our problem Apr 27 05:35:27 correction: thats not our problem to solve Apr 27 05:35:32 im just asking if anyone knows WHY? Apr 27 05:35:38 no one knows Apr 27 05:35:48 is it just me? or the same for everyone Apr 27 05:35:55 yes Apr 27 05:35:58 I440r: this is the wrong place to ask Apr 27 05:36:15 united states federal gov started blatantly shutting down sites like that Apr 27 05:36:16 ok so whats the right place to ask Apr 27 05:36:29 I am sure the ones that remain are just trying to pre-emptively save their own asses Apr 27 05:36:41 #android-root if thats where those guys put roms Apr 27 05:37:34 ty Apr 27 05:38:06 how do i share my internet connection with the emulator ? Apr 27 05:38:26 it should just work Apr 27 05:38:46 it doesnt Apr 27 05:38:47 t Apr 27 05:38:55 how does it appear in the emulator ? Apr 27 05:39:09 does it connect via wifi Apr 27 05:40:57 by default emulator is routed to network traffic Apr 27 05:41:02 unless you are doing something weird Apr 27 05:41:06 i think i figured it out Apr 27 05:41:41 I read that you need to add -dns-server dnsipaddress in target run configurations Apr 27 05:43:58 yup Apr 27 05:44:02 that did the trick Apr 27 05:44:06 I never had to fuck wiht that Apr 27 05:47:04 hi, there Apr 27 05:47:30 I'm going to install a new gerrit instance, which release is better choose? 2.4 rc0 or 2.3? Apr 27 05:47:56 unless you plan on running it on your android phone, id say its irrelevant to the channel Apr 27 05:49:12 "After Samsung confirmed record earnings for the March quarter on Friday, a set of new analyses estimate that the company overtook Apple to become the world's largest smartphone vendor while simultaneously passing long-time leader Nokia for the top spot among global mobile phone vendors." Apr 27 05:54:36 they must be stoked Apr 27 06:05:08 heya h00s Apr 27 06:05:43 i need to try gerrit Apr 27 06:05:59 *i need to try gerrit in a context that's not AOSP Apr 27 06:12:14 holy fuck, this is amazing http://mashable.com/2012/04/26/planetary-resources-asteroid-mining-trillions/ Apr 27 06:13:37 er, wasn't that announced like a week ago? Apr 27 06:14:42 yeah, but i didn't see how much the asteroid was worth Apr 27 06:14:46 20T Apr 27 06:14:50 yeah, me neither Apr 27 06:14:56 actually i didn't even bother to read any articles Apr 27 06:14:57 headlines only Apr 27 06:15:00 <3 Twitter Apr 27 06:20:24 i installed the google api but when i do import com.google.android.maps.MapActivity; I'm getting an error that the class doesn't exist Apr 27 06:20:48 are you compiling with said API? Apr 27 06:21:01 i think so Apr 27 06:21:03 do you have uses-library in your manifes? Apr 27 06:21:06 yes Apr 27 06:21:16

Apr 27 06:21:30 which is right below android:label="@string/app_name" > Apr 27 06:22:08 if anyone thinks android is ugly now; this is what it looked like in early 2007 http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/25/2974939/android-in-early-2007-looked-very-different-than-it-does-today Apr 27 06:22:25 i developed for Android when it was a Blackberry Apr 27 06:22:29 and had no touchscreen Apr 27 06:22:34 JakeWharton: any idea? Apr 27 06:23:19 right in the middle of the first Android Developer Challenge they introduced Android 0.9 which totally revamped the whole platform moving it more towards a touchscreen-based UI Apr 27 06:23:28 I had to basically throw out 90% of my app Apr 27 06:23:35 :O Apr 27 06:24:10 I still have the Android 1.0 emulator but I can't find a 0.9 one anywhere Apr 27 06:24:17 nor the pre-release SDKs Apr 27 06:24:45 iirc you can still download it from google can't you ? Apr 27 06:25:02 SDK Manager only lets you go back as far as 1.5 Apr 27 06:25:37 any idea about my google maps issue Apr 27 06:25:53 nope Apr 27 06:26:10 ok i created a new and and set it to use google apis as the target Apr 27 06:26:29 avd Apr 27 06:27:29 g00s: when people complain to excess about the Android APIs in relation to iPhone I point them to screenshots like those and say "Applicatons that were developed for the pre-release SDKs still work on Android 4.0." Apr 27 06:27:43 i'm not saying our APIs don't suck every now and then Apr 27 06:27:48 but that's a damn impressive fact Apr 27 06:27:55 :) Apr 27 06:28:18 I really wish I could get my hands on those old SDKs Apr 27 06:28:19 "Kindle Fire makes up over half of Android tablet market share, says comScore" :( Apr 27 06:29:06 i fixed it Apr 27 06:29:57 I forgot how fucking sexy c# was Apr 27 06:29:58 =( Apr 27 06:29:59 JakeWharton: and the way you can make different layouts for different versions of android that is automatically selected kicks iOS right in the vagina Apr 27 06:30:22 ron_frown: getting a windows laptop soon to do wp development :D Apr 27 06:30:22 resource filtering is arguably the most powerful feature of Android Apr 27 06:30:30 and it truly is Apr 27 06:32:08 so c# is in my future Apr 27 06:34:38 dart is in my future Apr 27 06:34:40 or kotlin Apr 27 06:35:06 and neo4j Apr 27 06:39:44 never heard of any Apr 27 06:39:56 g00s - you done c# before? Apr 27 06:40:15 ron_frown: nope Apr 27 06:41:16 oh god Apr 27 06:41:19 I'm tempted to tell you not to Apr 27 06:41:51 its very spoiling Apr 27 06:51:30 I cringe at the thought of having to learn a language specific to a company Apr 27 06:51:44 Like Microsoft or Apple Apr 27 06:52:40 Only thought behind is to be as incompatible and as possible and hope for their monopoly to beat the other Apr 27 06:52:48 That's my feeling of it all at least Apr 27 06:53:02 as incompatible as possible* Apr 27 07:05:38 Hi! How can i send a file from one app to another (both developed by me)? And how can i check inside one app if the other is installed? Apr 27 07:12:01 Mikellip - actually both platforms you suggested (I'm guessing you were referring to obj-c and c#) are not specific to any platform Apr 27 07:12:20 sure they were created with something in mind, but mono is VERY capable outside windows Apr 27 07:12:29 and there are objc compilers for tons of platforms Apr 27 07:15:23 you can develop for android with it Apr 27 07:15:26 xamarin.net Apr 27 07:15:48 though, i wouldn't personally use it. Apr 27 07:17:25 why not? Apr 27 07:17:37 someone just told me to start learning it Apr 27 07:19:12 because I don't know C#, and because if I did, java is such a similar language that it wouldn't make sense to use C# to develop for android, when your skills will mostly transfer over to java after about a week of coding and reading docs. Apr 27 07:20:04 oh ok but I enjoy learning other langs Apr 27 07:20:31 so do I, but I also use the right tool for the job Apr 27 07:20:46 you should avoid introducing extra complexity into software if possible Apr 27 07:21:27 I'm having problems with a ExpandableListView. The child divider will not draw. It will just leave transparent space (exactly the size of the 'normal' divider). I tried XML and Java, but in both cases it won't draw the childdivider. Anyone knows why? Apr 27 07:21:48 I tried using eclipse a couple of times but it uses up resources quite a lot Apr 27 07:22:04 niles11_ make sure you didn't set fill_parent on the "child"'s height Apr 27 07:22:13 I think xamarin is to be used only for multi-platform Apr 27 07:22:20 Criztian: you need to get more ram Apr 27 07:22:28 eclipse allocates like 700mb just to have for its own private use Apr 27 07:22:39 it's not actually using that much, it allocates a heap and is stingy with the memory it reserves Apr 27 07:22:42 on a macbook pro Apr 27 07:22:48 I got 4gb Apr 27 07:22:57 eclipse works fine on my linux box with 4gb Apr 27 07:23:11 but i might have more free ram than you in general Apr 27 07:23:14 but I have other platforms open too that's the point Apr 27 07:23:31 well then you obviously need more ram Apr 27 07:23:39 will play a bit more with it Apr 27 07:28:47 sounds like google is kicking oracle Apr 27 07:28:50 's ass in court Apr 27 07:28:55 http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120426075025438 Apr 27 07:30:11 @readme do you mean the root layout in the xml that is inflated as a child? Because I set the height to wrap_content and it makes no difference Apr 27 07:30:43 niles11_: show me that layout Apr 27 07:31:46 lol funny how it was rendered as a comic book dialog Apr 27 07:35:30 @readme Apr 27 07:35:36 http://pastebin.com/CXaCdxz1 here you can find my code Apr 27 07:41:53 niles11_: why do you nest the relativelayout inside the linearlayout Apr 27 07:42:12 also I don't think that your problem is in this part of the code Apr 27 07:42:19 i looked and it renders ok Apr 27 07:42:26 at least, without your styles and such Apr 27 07:43:18 I nest the layouts because you can't give the root layout margins (at least, not on the left side, they will always be added to the right side). It's a bit stupid but I could only manage to get the layout I wanted with this nested layout. Apr 27 07:43:43 why not use padding Apr 27 07:44:43 the difference between margin and padding is that of inner and outer Apr 27 07:45:14 I know Apr 27 07:45:20 but I need the inner layout to have a background Apr 27 07:45:27 (so the relativelayout) Apr 27 07:46:14 Would I use padding, it will still make the background image use up the entire layout Apr 27 07:46:30 that is a good question Apr 27 07:48:52 why are you setting wrap_content on the layout_width of your root element? Apr 27 07:48:52 wtf, google drive tos Apr 27 07:49:00 g00s: i know right Apr 27 07:49:21 " When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes that we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content."' Apr 27 07:49:26 fuck you :) Apr 27 07:49:48 they are a data mining company dude Apr 27 07:49:53 i don't know why that surprises you Apr 27 07:49:55 yeah yeah yeah Apr 27 07:49:57 that's just google as usual Apr 27 07:50:00 they are standard terms Apr 27 07:50:07 g00s: can you just upload everything encrypted there? Apr 27 07:50:11 nobody at google gives a shit about your content Apr 27 07:50:36 they're all too busy with the free food, massages, unlimited supply of alphabetised desserts... Apr 27 07:50:46 Leeds: they are standard for google i guess :) Apr 27 07:51:17 g00s: standard for cloud storage... legally, letting you access your own stuff constitutes making a copy, so you have to give them permission Apr 27 07:52:13 Leeds: the tos for dropbox and the ms alternative are more restrictive; essentially what is required to make the service work (like copy data from one server to another) Apr 27 07:52:21 this is not that Apr 27 07:54:45 @readme: I set it to wrap content because I wanted to test that. You told me so, and I knew you were probably talking about the height, but I thought about testing the width too. Didn't change it yet, but it makes no difference to the way the layout looks Apr 27 07:55:05 dropbox don't actually appear to *have* a proper TOS anymore, just a chatty document which talks vaguely about terms Apr 27 07:55:53 niles11_: your layout is probably OK Apr 27 07:55:57 by accepting you give us the right to own you and your great ideas for the rest of your life Apr 27 07:55:57 problem must be somewhere else Apr 27 07:56:31 * readme keeps his good files in his own servers Apr 27 07:57:43 I can show you the Java file if you think the problem is in that file? Apr 27 07:58:33 niles11_: try to come up with some ideas as to why it doesn't work before you show us more Apr 27 07:58:55 print logs, etc. make a testcase. Apr 27 08:01:26 The problem is I don't know. I've had big problems with a standard ListView recently, and in the end I had to file a new issue on Google because it was just a bug. It seems to me something similar is the case here. It's starting to bug me a bit that I'm walking into all kinds of Android problems that should be really simple and obvious to use but just don't work because of bugs... Apr 27 08:03:32 pastebin the java code I guess, but take a screenshot of what you actually see and describe what the expected result was somewhere. Apr 27 08:12:47 @readme Apr 27 08:12:52 hello Apr 27 08:12:59 this is a screenshot of my problem Apr 27 08:13:02 http://niles11.dyndns.org/screenshot.png Apr 27 08:13:11 why am i getting this error when configuring eclise Apr 27 08:13:15 eclipse* Apr 27 08:13:16 Cannot complete the install because one or more required items could not be found. Apr 27 08:13:16 Software being installed: Android Development Tools 18.0.0.v201203301601-306762 (com.android.ide.eclipse.adt.feature.group 18.0.0.v201203301601-306762) Apr 27 08:13:17 Missing requirement: Android Development Tools 18.0.0.v201203301601-306762 (com.android.ide.eclipse.adt.feature.group 18.0.0.v201203301601-306762) requires 'org.eclipse.wst.sse.core 0.0.0' but it could not be found Apr 27 08:16:12 hi Apr 27 08:16:51 I am new to the dev world. I just got my vm running and a kitchen set up. Where can I find a custom stock rom for the one s? Apr 27 08:16:52 I have an ImageView with an image set in it, how to fade out this current image and fade in a ne one ? Apr 27 08:16:56 new Apr 27 08:16:58 one Apr 27 08:17:38 xda was the first place I looked all I could find is senseless and themed Apr 27 08:17:47 all what what I found on google doesn't do it exactly Apr 27 08:19:34 niles11_: you're missing tyhe space between the header and the text there? Apr 27 08:20:33 I want the grey part to be attached to the green part Apr 27 08:25:32 it's not apparent to me why that is happening Apr 27 08:27:00 hello guys Apr 27 08:27:19 anyone have any ideas how to get list of image albums from content provider? Apr 27 08:29:41 o.k. better question what kitchen do you all use if any Apr 27 08:35:25 niles11_: post the layout please Apr 27 08:38:16 err guys.. anyone knows the answer to my questions? Apr 27 08:38:30 i have been searching for a while but i couldn't get the answers Apr 27 08:45:34 OK my little world has gone insane. Apr 27 08:45:41 android list targets # yields nothing Apr 27 08:45:54 strace android list targets 2>/dev/null # shows a bunch of targets. Apr 27 08:46:22 zylith: a vm and a kitchen doesn't make you a dev. this channel is about writing android applications. you may want to ask in #android-root Apr 27 08:46:26 Neeeeeeeeeeeeevermind. I suck. Apr 27 08:46:50 (I had an "android" shell alias) Apr 27 08:58:15 I never said I was a dev. Apr 27 08:58:25 well, you're in the wrong channel then Apr 27 09:12:40 i'm trying to get rid of all the missing contentDescription warnings Apr 27 09:12:52 for some UI elements there's no sensible description Apr 27 09:13:09 so i wonder if android ships with an @android:string/... which i could use for that Apr 27 09:13:17 @android:string/untitled for example? Apr 27 09:15:49 it's simple enough to define my own string for that, but i wonder if android already ships with a suitable string Apr 27 09:16:05 tapas Apr 27 09:16:09 yes Apr 27 09:16:18 For instance there is @android:string/ok Apr 27 09:19:49 what should I do to solve this: android.graphics.drawable.BitmapDrawable cannot be cast to android.graphics.drawable.TransitionDrawable ? Apr 27 09:21:10 cyrilmottier: yeah i looked through these, but they seemed all to be pretty much specific.. Apr 27 09:21:17 maxagaz: Do not cast it :p. Apr 27 09:21:48 cyrilmottier: i created an empty string in strings.xml called "no_content_description".. this is good enough to remove the warnings and searchable if i lateron want to change it.. Apr 27 09:21:49 cyril, I like that :) Apr 27 09:22:24 cyrilmottier: indeed, that's because I did a setImageBitmap on the image view Apr 27 09:25:07 Has anyone tried ARCA yet? It does't log 3g/wifi signal strength at the time of crash, right? Apr 27 09:26:10