**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 08 02:59:59 2012 Jun 08 03:07:47 oh recurring tasks was a bitch but done now Jun 08 03:36:33 is it possible to define a static array of no size and then allocate data to it froma file? i cant know the size till after i read it Jun 08 03:37:08 i probably knew how to do this last year when i frist started looking at android dev but ive been away from it for a while. gettin back in Jun 08 03:43:32 I think you can do that with list Jun 08 03:44:01 and convert it to an array if you need it as an array Jun 08 03:49:07 need to read in a blob from a sqlite database Jun 08 03:49:10 into the array Jun 08 03:55:47 hello can anyone help me with this question plz? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10889559/draw-chart-legend-on-canvas-and-add-to-different-layout Jun 08 03:57:28 I440r ByteArrayInputStream or something like that Jun 08 03:58:03 erm. Jun 08 03:58:26 * I440r looks but i dont like the idea of a byte by byte read of a blob. it should be read in as ONE read Jun 08 04:01:04 you can Jun 08 04:01:14 pass it a buffer to read into Jun 08 04:02:48 anyone? Jun 08 04:02:49 yo dawg i heard you like buffers Jun 08 04:02:51 only examples i can find use successive byte reads to fill a byte buffer. i cannot see how to read a sqlite blob into an array of shorts Jun 08 04:05:12 99% of the blob hits i find on google are how to store and retrieve image data and everyone ive talked to in here says DONT use sqlite for images :/ Jun 08 04:12:08 why would you use it for images? just store the path to the image in external or internal storage. Jun 08 04:12:14 im not Jun 08 04:12:17 oh ok Jun 08 04:12:31 thats the point, 99% of the examples related to blobs from google are all about this Jun 08 04:12:55 better file a complaint with google then Jun 08 04:12:58 i cannot find anything that will help me "***READ ONLY***" a blob of data into an array of shorts or an array of ints Jun 08 04:13:06 not googles fault Jun 08 04:13:15 thatsthejoke.jpg Jun 08 04:13:46 Can anyone help? I'm getting a weird crash on Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet. I'm using android_native_app_glue and I'm getting an uniformative WIN DEATH logcat message when I do any input... The app works fine on Kindle Fire, not sure what to look at. Jun 08 04:22:07 yea i cant find anything about reading blob data into an array of anything other than bytes Jun 08 04:24:30 why would you want to use a type other than byte? Jun 08 04:25:09 beause they are shorts? Jun 08 04:25:49 oh, you're storing a blob, and in that blob, you previously wrote out, one short at a time? Jun 08 04:25:50 they are 16 bit items that have been stored in a blob. i need to read them into an array of 16 bit items NOT 8 bit items Jun 08 04:26:00 no not exactly but close enough Jun 08 04:26:06 android did not create the blob Jun 08 04:26:30 a data manipulation application on my pc created that "array" and write it and other things into the db Jun 08 04:26:37 "Wrote" Jun 08 04:27:26 here's your answer Jun 08 04:27:29 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/277944/best-way-to-read-structured-binary-files-with-java Jun 08 04:27:46 lets consider it a 'structured binary file' where the structure us [short, short, ...] Jun 08 04:28:13 so the blob is a "file" for this eample? Jun 08 04:28:26 that may acutally pose a problem.. Jun 08 04:28:27 hmm Jun 08 04:28:32 lets see what RandomAccessFile really is Jun 08 04:28:49 it has readShort(), which is what you want Jun 08 04:29:16 ok NO. i dont want to do 1024 reads *2 i want to do TWO reads Jun 08 04:29:34 i have two of these tables of shorts, each with 1024 entreis. Jun 08 04:29:39 one read per blob. Jun 08 04:32:14 unless of course theres just no other way. but that would be kind of DUMB in my opinion, making java kind of crippled Jun 08 04:32:20 in an annoying way Jun 08 04:32:22 do it yourself Jun 08 04:33:00 read 2048 bytes of data and parse each two-byte pair as a short Jun 08 04:33:03 done Jun 08 04:33:10 yeah, that Jun 08 04:33:43 java ain't c Jun 08 04:33:58 sometimes you don't get everything given to you by the platform Jun 08 04:34:17 in C, you could just use a cast and use pointer arithmetic to do the job Jun 08 04:34:23 I think that is what he wants, but java does not have this Jun 08 04:34:48 leeds i do embedded development. i work very close to the hardware with NO operating system. this is what low level coding is all about. Jun 08 04:34:52 java is not low level Jun 08 04:35:16 * Leeds bows down at the altar of I440r and his leet low-level skills Jun 08 04:35:36 hey I know how you can do what you want Jun 08 04:35:37 you could have written the code to handle your own weird data format in the time you've been in here asking how to get Java to do it for you Jun 08 04:35:38 use the NDK Jun 08 04:35:41 of course im a nub at android and your all experts so i expect you to belittle me when i have problems Jun 08 04:35:43 :P Jun 08 04:36:20 whats up folks Jun 08 04:36:42 QubeZ: we're just belittling I440r Jun 08 04:37:04 yeah he thinks he's writing code for a pdp11 Jun 08 04:37:09 point an dlaugh Jun 08 04:37:12 oh thats messed up Jun 08 04:37:19 lol Jun 08 04:37:24 because in their godly java world anyone who is just starting out does not deserve anything other than being belittled Jun 08 04:38:15 I440r: you're asking something unusual... you've been given advice on how to do it, but you've rejected it because it doesn't work exactly how you want Jun 08 04:38:45 it's quite possible you have hit a spot where Java is weak - if so, deal with that, you might have to write more code or do things in a more complicated way than you'd want to... so be it Jun 08 04:39:04 is the android SDK available in punchcard form? Jun 08 04:42:14 I440r: is that unreasonable? Jun 08 04:43:30 no. being a jerk about it when all im trhying to do is find the most efficient method of solving a problem... thats unreasonable Jun 08 04:43:38 ty for the input tho Jun 08 04:44:00 gotta reboot Jun 08 04:44:09 what's 'reboot'? Jun 08 04:48:08 To Do Mapr is nearing 1000 downloads Jun 08 04:48:47 congratulations Jun 08 04:49:03 i guess the first 1000 is the toughest (i hope) Jun 08 04:49:08 working on the ios version? Jun 08 04:49:10 i am having trouble connecting to my verizon Samsung Galaxy tablet... is there a trick to it. I have it working with my other android devices. Jun 08 04:49:16 any ideas? Jun 08 04:49:19 QubeZ: i think --- don't measure in downloads Jun 08 04:49:21 I am on a mbp Jun 08 04:49:34 readme: yea, got all the DB and backend stuff hooked in...just waiting on my UX guy to come up with a UI and I'll start hooking that in Jun 08 04:49:36 QubeZ: i've put a really shitty app on the market before and had it get lots of downloads right away Jun 08 04:49:39 but that means not much! Jun 08 04:49:49 Core Data is really cool, didn't have to mess much with the sqlite backend Jun 08 04:49:49 it's about whether the users are returning and using it Jun 08 04:50:03 how is your user engagement? Jun 08 04:50:13 readme: true, I'm getting good results from the Flurry analytics Jun 08 04:50:39 you could launch your premium services and make more than some guy with a bazillion downloads if all he offers is cat pictures Jun 08 04:50:41 lots of returning users daily (800 sessions per week from 50+ users) -- word of mouth Jun 08 04:51:10 i've still not launched a free version of my app Jun 08 04:51:20 50 total user installs, 31 active device installs Jun 08 04:51:31 readme: nice Jun 08 04:51:40 and I know those 31 are proably using it, because it just needs to be turned on then it shows up when you get a call.. Jun 08 04:51:47 I get about 1 user a day Jun 08 04:52:16 once I finish up some contract work i'm going to add some new features and maybe make a free trial Jun 08 04:52:23 and try some actual promotion Jun 08 04:52:43 yea get that in-app purchasing/upgrade going Jun 08 04:52:57 hmm Jun 08 04:53:09 I don't want to change the paid version as it is already Jun 08 04:53:20 like, replace that with a free and option to upgrade.. I don't wanna do that Jun 08 04:53:29 you should have made it free with time trial then upgrade in-app Jun 08 04:53:41 right, dont wanna do that now Jun 08 04:53:52 that might have been better Jun 08 04:57:40 i did an interesting extreme couponing adventure today Jun 08 04:58:32 whats that Jun 08 04:58:51 I found this $1 off Whole Foods coupon for Think Thin protein bars then another $1 manufacturer coupon -- they're $1.99. So I went to Whole Foods after printing 200 coupons of each and since its no restriction on using on each bar... I bought 200 bars. After all discounts and overages applied, I walked out with 200 protein bars + $37 Jun 08 04:59:38 so I talk to the manager since they expire end of this month, he told me I can keep coming back as much as I want and so I told him I want to order 1000. They're going to order them for me so I just print off $1000 coupons, give them to the manager and they give me the 1000 bars + $185 Jun 08 04:59:43 wtf Jun 08 05:00:00 you profit? Jun 08 05:00:20 You should blog about this Jun 08 05:00:28 post on the internet and put an ad on it too, profit even more Jun 08 05:00:47 ya, i just got 200 today and walked out with $37 because they ended up being $1.79 per bar since they are on special if you buy 10 -- since I bought 20x10, I got 21 cents back on each one (made money) Jun 08 05:01:06 so I gave a box to a homeless dude on the way home hehe Jun 08 05:01:17 awesome Jun 08 05:02:21 was a nice manager too, he sat there patiently and counted all 400 coupons (1 of each type) and kept thanking me for my patience Jun 08 05:15:07 goodguy annoying customer: is polite to you while he redeems his 200 coupons Jun 08 05:15:31 Is anyone here? Jun 08 05:17:25 I have a big list of strings, and everyone someone presses a button its suppose to show the next string, the only way I can think of is by using a switch statement, is there a better way? Jun 08 05:17:58 is Android 3.1 known to be unstable? Jun 08 05:18:31 Rumor has it that Android OpenGL ES 2 contexts can be shared. Is this true? Jun 08 05:18:44 between threads? Jun 08 05:18:57 But that only one can be active (system-wide) at any given time. Jun 08 05:19:07 Between threads etc. Jun 08 05:19:53 it is my understanding that you have to create an opengl es 2 context in each thread, but within the same Sharegroup, thus allowing the two contexts to share resources Jun 08 05:20:20 shit I want a new bike Jun 08 05:20:42 What about the rumor that only one can be active globally at any given time? Jun 08 05:22:00 Not too sure, if you close an OpenGL ES 2 app, you need to destroy the context, so another app could use it, so I would say only one can be active at a time Jun 08 05:22:16 The only thing I think OpenGL allows is multiple active contexts in a Sharegroup Jun 08 05:23:34 Well it seems suspicious to me. In no other form of OpenGL is it true that only one can be active at a time. Jun 08 05:23:45 Perhaps he meant only one active per shared group. Jun 08 05:23:51 But that is not the case in iOS. Jun 08 05:24:02 Generally it should be one active per thread. Jun 08 05:25:02 I agree that I think it is 1 active per thread Jun 08 05:25:14 but only through a sharegroup? Jun 08 05:25:22 can you have more than 1 at a time Jun 08 05:25:25 No, regardless of share groups. Jun 08 05:25:59 Not sure Jun 08 05:26:35 how would you destroy the opengl context? Jun 08 05:27:17 eglDestroyContext Jun 08 05:28:21 Is this about my questions, jeppy? Destroying them is the same as normal. Jun 08 05:28:43 But I can bet that resources made in the destroyed context will be lost to the other contexts. Jun 08 05:29:06 i haven't worked much with them, just wondering how it should be destroyed because I didnt know it had to be Jun 08 05:29:57 Technically it doesn’t but it is good practice to destroy everything on shut-down. Jun 08 05:30:51 If I bind a vertex buffer on thread 0 to context 0, then bind on thread 1 to context 1, does the binding on context 0 get changed if they are shared contexts? Jun 08 05:31:29 Talking about a Sharegroup now? Jun 08 05:31:36 Yes. Jun 08 05:31:48 My research suggests that is the case. Jun 08 05:32:20 Yep, Sharegroups share resources, so the same vertex buffer is accessible from both contexts, if one changes something it is changed for both. Jun 08 05:32:59 Well resources may be shared but are you sure that explicitly implies sharing state too? Jun 08 05:33:17 (Although again the only way for my results to happen is if state is shared too.) Jun 08 05:34:22 I don’t mean changing an attribute on a vertex buffer here. Jun 08 05:34:28 Which would of course change on all contexts. Jun 08 05:34:38 No, sorry, each context is an OpenGL state machine, so no state sharing. Jun 08 05:34:47 I am just talking about the OpenGL state, which includes the last bound buffer. Jun 08 05:35:12 i wish dev's could comment on reviews Jun 08 05:35:33 im more concerned with commenting on good reviews to let users know those features are coming that they are requesting... some users dont follow your twitter feed Jun 08 05:36:34 create your own personal ad space that shows a single tweet Jun 08 05:36:46 However if each context is a copy of state, I have to find another explanation for the results I am getting. Jun 08 05:36:59 What is happening? Jun 08 05:39:13 I have 2 threads, each with their own shared contexts. Under race conditions, the thread that binds vertex buffer A discovers when it tries to unbind it that it is no longer bound, though a log of thread ID’s shows that it was the same thread that bound it. Jun 08 05:39:40 After binding it to context A, the second thread bound a vertex buffer 0 to context B. Jun 08 05:39:56 That is what was discovered by the first vertex buffer. Jun 08 05:40:03 A binding of 0. Jun 08 05:40:23 Yet I confirmed that both threads bound their own vertex buffers and unbinded them. Jun 08 05:44:47 I get users with random sockettimeoutexception errors -- I have my connectTimeout set to 8 secs and readTimeout set to 8 secs Jun 08 05:44:49 You are confirming that they bind their own vertex buffers, by checking the ids in each thread prior to binding? Jun 08 05:44:52 should this be higher? Jun 08 05:45:31 Yes. Jun 08 05:48:13 I also confirm that the contexts assigned to each thread stay on those threads. Jun 08 05:48:17 Never swapping over. Jun 08 05:48:19 qubez, why not catch the exception and report to the user that the connection failed Jun 08 05:49:11 can you use multiple context with one surface view? Jun 08 05:49:49 jeppy: I am gracefully handling it, I still send the report to myself via ACRA so I know what caused it (i.e. I can see the data they are tryign to generate). But I'm wondering if there is a way to better handle the situation. Jun 08 05:49:57 preferably a better way to do this: http://pastebin.com/gShsxV55 Jun 08 05:50:03 jeppy, it is possible yes. Jun 08 05:53:45 QubeZ, i think you can set a socket timeout the same way you are doing the read and connection timeouts Jun 08 05:55:21 QubeZ, HttpConnectionParams.setSoTimeout(params, socketTimeout); Jun 08 05:56:02 will look at that, thanks Jun 08 05:58:36 QubeZ, http://pastebin.com/JmFNGX6Q Jun 08 05:59:02 thank you Jun 08 05:59:04 that is based on something a found on stackoverflow a while ago. not coming up right now Jun 08 05:59:21 I havent tested https though Jun 08 05:59:56 its only one user experiencing this with a Bionic Jun 08 06:00:05 so its not critical but might be symptomatic of a bigger problem Jun 08 06:00:39 so I'd like to optimize where ever I can, although Donald Knuth says premature opt is root of all evil... i'll have to leave this along until I profile that part of the code Jun 08 06:01:59 i'm off to bed, will tackle this tomorrow Jun 08 06:02:02 thanks jeppy Jun 08 06:03:07 QubeZ you little bitch Jun 08 06:11:40 nice Jun 08 06:11:52 11pm and someone is outside operating a god damn jackhammer Jun 08 06:15:08 http://www.upload.ee/image/2410708/clipboard_upped.png Jun 08 06:15:13 What am I doing wrong? Jun 08 06:15:18 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/hardware/Camera.Parameters.html#getSupportedVideoSizes%28%29 Jun 08 06:29:20 ah, just spotted the almost invisible "Since: API Level" Jun 08 06:29:23 on the right Jun 08 06:33:20 either get used to looking for it, or set your API level at the top-right of the page Jun 08 06:33:37 that'll grey out calls which aren't available at your target level Jun 08 06:41:51 Getting used to it isn't a problem since I found it now, but thanks for the hint about selecting the level. Jun 08 06:43:41 did that guy figure out his byte buffer to short issue ? Jun 08 06:43:46 haha Jun 08 06:45:47 g00s - stfu Jun 08 06:46:32 I came up with my latest mil $ idea Jun 08 06:46:51 i come up with million $ ideas all day long Jun 08 06:46:55 and i'm still broke Jun 08 06:47:07 one that I believe I can accomplish in a relatively short amount of time Jun 08 06:47:12 and make gobs and gobs of cash off Jun 08 06:47:42 sharing is caring... Jun 08 06:47:45 haha Jun 08 06:48:19 I'll share that it relates to a very very specialized spatial database Jun 08 06:49:01 god damn it Jun 08 06:49:14 vmware registered all of windows known extensions to itself Jun 08 06:50:40 well i hope you guys didn't have CT scans when you were kids "NIH study finds childhood CT scans linked to leukemia and brain cancer later in life" Jun 08 06:50:58 haha Jun 08 06:50:59 go figure Jun 08 06:51:02 everything causes cansers Jun 08 06:54:37 i just sold my theory of computation book for $120 :D Jun 08 06:54:47 just before the 3e comes out in 2 weeks XD Jun 08 06:54:58 * g00s loves selling books on amazon Jun 08 06:56:51 a while back I came up with an idea for distributed b+trees for the purposes of storage agnostic db indexing... and found some japanese folks that were researching the very concept Jun 08 06:56:56 and how I was gonna go about doing it Jun 08 06:57:16 their research was published in some "big data" summit book Jun 08 06:57:21 the mf was like 900$ Jun 08 06:57:25 I can telnet to the virtual device but I can't adb to it, any idea why that is? Jun 08 06:57:37 adb isnt running? Jun 08 06:57:41 what os Jun 08 06:57:55 if it linux, you may need to setup udev for permissions for avg users Jun 08 06:58:15 it's linux indeed, thanks Jun 08 06:58:55 shouldn't need perms for the emulator, I think Jun 08 06:59:17 uses a socket rather than a device Jun 08 06:59:19 ron_frown: were you reading a book about this ? Jun 08 07:00:13 side note: adb to the actual device over usb works well Jun 08 07:00:22 anyhow, this is the bible http://www.amazon.com/Foundations-Multidimensional-Structures-Kaufmann-Computer/dp/0123694469 Jun 08 07:00:36 you can kill somebody with this book, its enormous Jun 08 07:00:47 * g00s hits ron_frown with the book Jun 08 07:00:51 except Chuck Noris. Jun 08 07:01:09 Leeds - its in the setting up your environment for building the os Jun 08 07:01:12 but for the adb aspect Jun 08 07:01:38 ron_frown: I'm assuming Utopiah is using one of the standard SDK images Jun 08 07:02:09 he is yes Jun 08 07:02:28 I would assume so too, but if you are required to setup udev to use adb to sync and push shit to a device Jun 08 07:02:37 I'd THINK you'd be required to do it for out of box images Jun 08 07:02:48 but that's only if you're using a hardware USB port, not for the emulator Jun 08 07:02:55 it'd be easy enough to try, launching 'sudo adb shell' Jun 08 07:03:03 no need for sudo either Jun 08 07:03:10 it's just a connection to port 5555 Jun 08 07:03:28 I was totally not aware adb would auto establish tcp connections as well Jun 08 07:03:35 was aware you could tell it to use tcp instead Jun 08 07:03:49 I assume it checks localhost:5555 by default, as well as USB ports Jun 08 07:04:42 g00s - that actually looks like a nice book Jun 08 07:10:13 hmmm doesnt change anything, stll work with telnet but nothing on adb devices, sometimes it appears but only as offline Jun 08 07:11:03 for what it's worth, have you tried restarting the emulator? it sometimes starts (started?) in a weird mode where networking failed Jun 08 07:11:22 about 10 times Jun 08 07:16:00 well Ill test on the actual device and hope not to brick it :-# Jun 08 07:20:34 man, htc is in deep shit Jun 08 07:20:41 g00s: ? Jun 08 07:21:09 ms refuses to allow them to do windows 8 rt tablets, and apple is filing a second injunction against the One X Jun 08 07:21:48 actually, the 2nd injunction is against all HTC handsets Jun 08 07:22:32 and samsung is kicking their butt too Jun 08 07:22:43 well, sony's teamed up with htc for their mobile platform Jun 08 07:22:57 HTC doesn't have a good patent portfolio for defense Jun 08 07:24:03 nokia also filed an itc injunction against them also Jun 08 07:25:05 pragma-: so did dr dre :) Jun 08 07:25:37 Dre isn't worth more than a small marketing gimmick Jun 08 07:25:44 haha, i was just joking :) Jun 08 07:26:10 i only know dr dre from a couple of years in the 90's Jun 08 07:27:11 i haven't recognized him since Jun 08 07:27:36 I only noticed that brand because of HTC and searching for 'phones Jun 08 07:28:16 given that Dre 'phones were on "do not buy" list... HTC didn't get bonus points from partnering with them ;) Jun 08 07:29:37 whats a 'phone? Jun 08 07:31:06 headphone Jun 08 07:31:09 *headphones Jun 08 07:40:44 seems pretty cool http://www.gizmag.com/compulab-intensepc-third-gen-core-i7-upgrade/22837/ Jun 08 07:40:49 fanless pc Jun 08 07:40:52 * g00s hates fans Jun 08 07:44:25 get a good case, and you don't need a cool cpu to run fanless Jun 08 07:44:55 if it ran Pentium IV without fans, it will run most new things ^_- Jun 08 07:45:09 hehe, pentium iv Jun 08 07:46:28 yeah, the failed try by Intel to get into personal nuclear power Jun 08 07:48:34 p_l|backup: aren't they working on pocket portable nuclear power now :P Jun 08 07:48:50 atom : there is something about that name, like splitting them Jun 08 07:50:23 fission Jun 08 07:51:02 though actually "atomos" meant "undividable" iirc Jun 08 08:58:46 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spongiforma_squarepantsii Jun 08 09:03:49 hi, i searched the interwebz a little bit for this: it seems that when i have a button inside a scrollview clicks on the button are only passed through to it once the scrollview has stopped scrolling for a bit Jun 08 09:07:59 tapas: yes, you woudln't want the user to accidentally click on some random button while flinging through the view Jun 08 09:09:21 pragma-: true.. Jun 08 09:09:23 hmmm Jun 08 09:09:35 i'll use that as an argument for our client then.. Jun 08 09:09:39 it's a good argument.. Jun 08 09:09:50 if they want it differently we'll have to redesign the app Jun 08 09:30:59 anyone else got spam from leadbolt.com? Jun 08 09:31:52 "several of our advertisers requested to advertise on " Jun 08 09:31:59 hello all Jun 08 09:32:41 can someone tell me how I can get the ports used by a specific app (given the pid or die package name) ??? netstat seems to be a bit downgraded on android :) thx Jun 08 09:35:15 Pinas: if you're rooted, you can use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.googlecode.networklog Jun 08 09:36:00 well thats a good start, but I need such features inside my own code :) Jun 08 09:36:13 oha nice it's open source :) Jun 08 09:36:58 he's working on a neat firewall app too that has a learning mode Jun 08 09:37:26 the firewall apps on the market right now just allow or block specific apps Jun 08 09:37:52 this one will be able to choose to block specific addresses within an app instead of the entire app Jun 08 09:38:08 (hello ad-block!) Jun 08 09:38:39 i wish droidwall did not require root Jun 08 09:38:46 droidwall sucks Jun 08 09:38:50 sounds like a great idea Jun 08 09:39:11 what I need to do is to map port(s) to a running app in order to be able to get the network traffic Jun 08 09:40:49 this app seems to do something similar - so I hope that the source can help me :) Jun 08 09:41:08 a decent adblock type deal is the whole reason im looking forward to being able to root my phone Jun 08 09:41:13 if nothing else, it has a netstat parser that you may find useful Jun 08 09:42:37 pragma - this parser parses the output of netstat or /proc/net/tcp ??? Jun 08 09:43:08 On that note, how do I properly backup my Contacts, SMS, Apps (app data),... when I want to install a new ROM or move to a new phone alltogether? Jun 08 09:43:12 Hi, I'm using TranslateAnimation to slide-in my Side-Menu from the left. I do view.setX(0) on onAnimationEnd to update the real position of the menu after the animation is done. I'm getting an annoying flicker at the end of the animation, anyone knows what can be done about that? Jun 08 09:43:39 Pinas: /proc/net/* Jun 08 09:43:57 tcp, udp, tcp6 and udp6 Jun 08 09:44:13 https://github.com/pragma-/networklog/blob/master/src/com/googlecode/networklog/NetStat.java Jun 08 09:44:20 ok nice, I thought about doing the same but I am quite sure that your (is it your tool) solution is better :) Jun 08 09:45:10 it's always safe to assume that pragma- provides a better solution Jun 08 09:45:20 pragma- this is the parser ? Jun 08 09:46:45 :log Jun 08 09:47:27 ah selenium irc has a bot that will give log.txt when i hit above command :s Jun 08 09:52:40 anyone can help me with the animation? Jun 08 10:09:33 wow, philip zimbardo on reddit ? Jun 08 10:09:36 :O Jun 08 10:10:17 you say that name as if I should have heard of him Jun 08 10:10:41 well, he is famous in his line of work :) Jun 08 10:11:01 oh, another nutjob head shrink Jun 08 10:11:15 pragma-: yeah, but you aren't a hair on his ass Jun 08 10:11:19 XD Jun 08 10:11:27 kinky Jun 08 10:13:08 hey Jun 08 10:13:44 I'm having an app here, which is still displaying "old" interface widgets on ICS (progressbars, etc...), what exactly do I have to change for it to use the "native" ICS widgets? Jun 08 10:14:20 is having an app like having a baby ? Jun 08 10:14:45 Mavrik: the targetSdk Jun 08 10:14:59 g00s, yeah, very similar than being slapped for acting like a wiseass ;) Jun 08 10:15:29 pragma-, ok, thanks :) Jun 08 10:15:45 pragma-: will targetsdk change the look of widgets ? i left that at 8, and it looked fine on ics Jun 08 10:16:37 g00s: yes Jun 08 10:16:47 it will look better at 15! Jun 08 10:17:18 wut Jun 08 10:17:34 dat Jun 08 10:17:42 where is SimonVT Jun 08 10:18:59 i assume by widgets you mean checkboxes and stuff Jun 08 10:19:19 not the home screen app widgets thing Jun 08 10:19:23 yeah Jun 08 10:19:52 managed to find docs about it: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/Build.VERSION_CODES.html Jun 08 10:20:16 even though i poked around with ics in the emu, since i dont have an ics device its kinda ethereal to me Jun 08 10:20:25 the targetSdk, among other things, also determines which theme/look-n-feel to use Jun 08 10:20:33 ok Jun 08 10:20:43 Would anyone tell me where can i find a sample application which makes a API call of some kind Jun 08 10:20:45 please? Jun 08 10:21:54 er... what do you mean by API call? Jun 08 10:22:36 idk e.g. a google search api , or a rss feeds api any open api which exists, may be TFL api Jun 08 10:23:24 I'm right here, g00s Jun 08 10:24:11 sorry to bug you SimonVT , i was skeptical of pragma- 's claims that setting targetSdl changes the appearance of widgets (checkboxes, etc) on ICS Jun 08 10:24:25 but it seems legit Jun 08 10:24:48 it does Jun 08 10:25:05 Unless you specifically use the holo theme on >=ICS Jun 08 10:25:13 Then there's no difference Jun 08 10:25:38 As in, if no theme is set in your manifest, it will only use holo them targetSdk >=11 Jun 08 10:25:44 s/them/when/ Jun 08 10:26:08 g00s, read the docs I posted. Jun 08 10:27:01 Since you were talking about it, it will also change the look of appwidgets :p Jun 08 10:27:45 ok, reading Mavrik .. holy shit i am confused. i'll come back later Jun 08 10:27:56 1. size calculations are done differently 2. padding is automatically added from ICS Jun 08 10:29:04 g00s: in Mavrik's link, scrolling paste the summary to the actual definitions shows the details of how android changes behavior for each targetSdk chosen Jun 08 10:29:09 past. Jun 08 10:29:42 yes, thanks. reading. Jun 08 10:29:51 i missed these for some reason Jun 08 11:08:48 I have an Android project which has a debug signature. Can you remind me how I resign the project again? Jun 08 11:11:21 Or how I chose which debugkey I want to use rather Jun 08 11:15:38 Kake_Fisk: why do you care about which debug key you use? Jun 08 11:45:02 I find it useful to share debug-key when working in group. easy to install/upgrade with someone elses .apk without need to uninstall mine. Jun 08 11:49:02 I don't. But I had to get it running at least. But I figured it out :) Jun 08 11:50:00 Kake_Fisk: nice! Jun 08 11:50:08 :) Jun 08 11:50:21 I have a big problem which I don't know how to handle though Jun 08 11:50:28 Making my game work in different resolutions Jun 08 11:50:59 I would maybe have to scale or something :| Jun 08 11:54:40 if you are using sprites I think one should use resources of different sizes in drawable-[lmh]dpi/ Jun 08 11:55:36 if you are using Canvas, then Canvas.scale() and Canvas.setMatrix() or something sounds nice.. :) Jun 08 11:56:20 http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html Jun 08 12:01:26 Yeah, I have sprites for the different densities. But I guess I could use scaling. But doesn't the image get blurry that way? Jun 08 12:06:40 Kake_Fisk: I don't know what kind of algorithms are used, but yeah - scaling generates/removes information from an image. unless it's vector graphics I guess. Jun 08 12:07:22 Yeah, I might have to add scrolling or something then :| Jun 08 12:08:40 Kake_Fisk: most image viewing applications have scaling and I think it usually looks good :) Jun 08 12:10:03 But I think I'm actually going to go for the scrolling solution. That might be an interesting twist to the game when I think about it. And then I don't need to worry about this problem. Jun 08 12:10:28 Kake_Fisk: sweet Jun 08 12:13:20 What do you call it when you touch on the screen, drag, and then release? I tend to call it touchdrag, but I have no idea where I got that from. Jun 08 12:14:02 swipe? Jun 08 12:14:15 or simply drag, depending on the actual usage Jun 08 12:15:35 ah, okay Jun 08 12:19:48 Anyone know of any working examples of using ServiceTestCase with an IntentService? Jun 08 12:39:00 Is there any way to figure out the rankings of an app on the android market? Jun 08 12:44:55 I assume I need to set a permission to write to the sdcard right? Jun 08 12:45:54 Hi, what is the best way to store app-wise settings (which is a serializable class)? So far, I have callbacks for FragmentActivity<->Fragment and finish/onActivityResult for Activity<->FragmentActivity Jun 08 12:46:06 jrock20041: yes Jun 08 12:46:25 wongk: just found the write_external Jun 08 12:46:33