**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 02 02:59:58 2012 Jul 02 03:20:16 why is the java XML parser so bloody retarded and why hasn't someone written a better one Jul 02 03:21:05 the world has moved on to better formats Jul 02 03:21:26 also, why can't you be "someone" Jul 02 03:21:48 sadly the world of RSS hasnt Jul 02 03:21:58 and I'm considering to be *someone* if this thing doesn't start working soon Jul 02 03:23:54 I thought the android.sax stuff wasn't terrible to work with Jul 02 03:25:03 hits very tedious to navigate deep hierarchies with Jul 02 03:26:58 sax parsing is generally going to be like that I guess Jul 02 03:27:23 but it's definitely better than other traditional sax parsers where you have to much more to maintain state Jul 02 03:30:23 Im there where i want to introduce a JSON based format for news&podcasts etc to replace Retard-SS Jul 02 03:38:08 Lexi: which API do you use to parse XML? Jul 02 03:38:43 you don't have to use SAX Jul 02 03:38:49 you can use the pull API or the DOM API Jul 02 03:42:19 meh :/ too late, I'm almost done.. but thanks for the tip Jul 02 03:42:26 might just rewrite this thing tomorrow Jul 02 03:45:05 what's up with the internalSet* methods on Notification.Style? Jul 02 03:45:06 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Notification.Style.html Jul 02 03:45:16 missing a @hide Jul 02 03:45:17 ? Jul 02 03:46:09 or if I create a custom style am I supposed to call those for overriding their respective values? Jul 02 03:47:26 hmm, i'm thinking they're there to allow for the builder pattern on the actual style classes which probably just call up to these methods Jul 02 03:58:34 hmm.. adding a google account requires that google account to have a gmail.com address now?!? Jul 02 03:59:54 every google account has a gmail doesn't it? Jul 02 03:59:58 nope Jul 02 04:00:02 youraccountname@gmail.com ? Jul 02 04:00:12 I've always used foo@mydomain.com Jul 02 04:00:15 odd Jul 02 04:00:19 for g+, drive, everything Jul 02 04:00:26 brb Jul 02 04:00:47 Google Apps? Jul 02 04:05:18 isn't drive google apps? yeah for that Jul 02 04:05:40 but yesterday I tried adding the account on another device and it said it wanted to create a gmail address for me Jul 02 04:05:44 which I didn't want to do at all Jul 02 04:05:55 never had to do that on previous android devices Jul 02 04:14:04 SimpleDateFormat doesn't seem to date a defined date format, how do I define this Jul 02 04:14:08 for parsing a string Jul 02 04:18:09 super.onCreate(savedInstanceState); Jul 02 04:18:11 What does that actually do? Jul 02 04:19:18 allows the activity to set itself up Jul 02 04:20:05 https://github.com/android/platform_frameworks_base/blob/master/core/java/android/app/Activity.java#L855-867 Jul 02 04:20:13 there's what it does as of Android 4.0.4 Jul 02 04:22:29 If I use intent to change to an activity, how can I ensure that instance of the activity will be new? How can I destroy instances of activities? Jul 02 04:22:34 so, signing up for a google checkout account to publish apps, it wants a business name, and url. but I am not a business Jul 02 04:22:43 what should I give them? Jul 02 04:22:52 Your name? lol Jul 02 04:22:58 that works. Jul 02 04:30:57 :| My application keeps bugging up because of saved instances - how can I destroy them? Jul 02 04:31:12 clear top intent flag Jul 02 04:31:46 What? o.o Jul 02 04:32:25 Intent.FLAG_ACTIVITY_CLEAR_TOP ? Jul 02 04:48:41 Guys, so I edited the source of my eclipse project, saved it, exited it....only to realize that the program doesn't work and I need to undo everything. Jul 02 04:48:53 Is there anyway to undo changes AFTER exiting and reopening eclipse? Jul 02 04:50:19 Right click on your file and goto history (I think) Jul 02 04:50:23 You should have a local history Jul 02 04:51:40 jessicajames: yes, version control :) Jul 02 04:56:30 looking into it right now... Jul 02 04:56:33 hope it will work :( Jul 02 04:59:55 what is the best way to retrieve a database (or the information in it) from the user's phone for my application? should i convert it to text first? Jul 02 05:01:37 of course Jul 02 05:01:47 but I'd be careful abotu what I tried to grab Jul 02 05:01:54 quick route to get your app some bad publicity Jul 02 05:04:15 yay Jul 02 05:04:16 it worked Jul 02 05:04:18 thank you guys so much Jul 02 05:04:41 No problem Jul 02 05:10:26 jessicajames local history is nice, but you should really be looking into a proper version control tool Jul 02 05:13:53 Activity Main -> Activity Game -> Certain conditions met (winning! yay) -> Activity Win, forwards me to a different case of Activity Game (intent.putExtra...) -> Activity Game (b) -> here's where my problem lies; it just kinda keeps 'reloading' and I have no idea why :/ can anyone shed light on this or tell me what I can try to solve it? Jul 02 05:29:14 more info: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11288163/why-is-intent-opening-as-old-activities-instead-of-new-activities Jul 02 05:36:08 Hello I'm trying to draw an image and then scale the image and redraw it. I am not using a surfaceview(which I probaly should be) but a surface class thrown onto a layout. now when I use invalidate() to redraw the view I get a static non-static error. So i've removed all the static modifiers, no go. When i call the scale function which is in the view class it wants to make a static reference. Jul 02 05:41:21 romainguy: i'm trying to watch a video on custom layouts from devoxx 2010, but parleys.com is in GB and I'm always having problems streaming - do these videos exist anywhere else ? Jul 02 05:41:38 its a video you did with chet Jul 02 05:42:29 they don't want to buffer up either; if i press pause it doesn't seem to keep buffering Jul 02 05:45:36 I have an odd question: Jul 02 05:45:48 When you guys develop, presumably using Eclipse, which perspective do you use? Jul 02 05:45:56 java :) Jul 02 05:46:03 I'm kinda surprised there isn't an android perspective (or is there, and I'm doing something wrong?) Jul 02 05:46:11 ddms i think it is called Jul 02 05:49:35 at this point i'm willing to pay $$$ for good tutorials on custom layouts Jul 02 05:49:52 g00s: it was you that said you worked with the RIT mirrors? Jul 02 05:50:18 agargiulo: i was a lab tech back in 1995 when those were set up :) Jul 02 05:50:29 makes me feel really young... Jul 02 05:50:38 a loooooong time ago. i'm sure its a different setup now ;) Jul 02 05:51:15 all I know is that the have 10Gbps links Jul 02 05:51:23 the fastest mirror for me on the west coast is OSUOSL mirror Jul 02 05:51:38 "** We are now on a faster box with more disk and 10GbE. **" Jul 02 05:51:51 from the mirrors.rit.edu site Jul 02 05:52:40 so, setting up a UI for the first time. I have three buttons in a vertical layout, how do I add space between them? Jul 02 05:52:55 right now it's just three times Jul 02 05:52:58 android:layout_margin Jul 02 05:53:03 margins, padding ... Jul 02 05:53:23 thanks Jul 02 05:53:24 maybe even spacer views if certain proportions need to be met Jul 02 05:53:37 agargiulo: if you are using eclipse and the visual builder, try the properties view. there you see all the options. Jul 02 05:53:38 nothing too advanced Jul 02 05:53:45 pboos: thanks Jul 02 05:54:13 holy options batman Jul 02 05:54:28 agargiulo: or if you prefer xml like i do, than hit the autocomplete, to see possible options Jul 02 05:55:07 yeah, I'll probably write it with just the xml, but the visual page is nice for ideas and stupidity checking Jul 02 06:02:19 Hello I'm trying to draw an image and then scale the image and redraw it. I am not using a surfaceview(which I probaly should be) but a surface class thrown onto a layout. now when I use invalidate() to redraw the view I get a static non-static error. So i've removed all the static modifiers, no go. When i call the scale function which is in the view class it wants to make a static reference. Jul 02 06:03:24 should i just use a surfaceview. are they easier to update Jul 02 06:05:23 can i impliment a surface view in xml as i can the view Jul 02 06:05:49 maybe i'm just tired... Jul 02 06:06:49 now, if I want three buttons, evenly spaced virtically on the screen, is LinearLayout the right layout? Jul 02 06:08:33 agargiulo, I've read some where that you should use a table layout, with three columns Jul 02 06:08:37 agargiulo: Relative Jul 02 06:08:54 DashCC: thanks Jul 02 06:09:27 jeffjs: I'll look Jul 02 06:09:33 look into that* Jul 02 06:10:45 u was having the same problem earlier and was playing with the weight Jul 02 06:12:19 although i did just apply a relative layout and it worked. thank you Dashcc Jul 02 06:14:19 jeffjs: I guess there are different ways you can archieve that :-) Jul 02 06:17:05 DashCC: relative layouts = awesome thanks again Jul 02 06:26:49 is there an sdk official way to have an activity populate a listview for suggested search, then use a edittext box to filter results, or perform new searches? Jul 02 06:28:15 so, buttons have `android:onClick=""` but how does it handle long clicks? `android:onLongClick=""`? Jul 02 06:28:53 i guess im basically trying to implement the search widget/dialog into an activity Jul 02 06:31:08 agargiulo: you can set those in code, setOnLongClickListener(...) Jul 02 06:31:19 you can do that for the regular click listener too Jul 02 06:31:43 the XML attribute is just for convenience and you have to be extra careful since it's not compile-time safe Jul 02 06:32:27 Yeah, I've seen that already. Jul 02 06:32:42 so I shouldn't use the onClick thing? or use it but be careful? Jul 02 06:34:09 I use the xml attribute because it reduces code clutter, but use judgement Jul 02 06:34:55 there's no onLongClick Jul 02 06:35:01 xml attribute Jul 02 06:35:20 (if I had both, I'd probably do them both in the one spot) Jul 02 06:38:28 so, then I would have something along the lines of: Jul 02 06:38:39 android:onClick="someMethod" Jul 02 06:38:50 and in someMethod, have the code to handle either click? Jul 02 06:39:44 no, just do them both in code Jul 02 06:40:03 I don't think a long click will call onClick Jul 02 06:41:24 okay, thanks Jul 02 06:43:21 now to learn how to do that... Jul 02 06:43:33 * agargiulo is very green with android dev Jul 02 06:44:21 So, I need to dynamically add controls to an Activity. I know how to do this...however, I don't know how I would keep track of the new controls. For example, if I added two new TextViews, how would I know which TextView I needed to change the text of on a button click? Jul 02 06:46:05 I hope that made sense... Jul 02 06:46:19 it made sense to me. Jul 02 06:51:28 hi. this link is about the java code for the camera. http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/media/camera.html . but please look for in the link " fileUri = getOutputMediaFileUri(MEDIA_TYPE_IMAGE);" . now the problem is that eclipse underlines "MEDIA_TYPE_IMAGE" as error and not being defined. how can I make it defined? Jul 02 06:54:28 Also, you guys know the hard menu button on most android devices? What do i need to search online to learn how to code for it? Jul 02 06:55:01 superlinux-hp: public static final int MEDIA_TYPE_IMAGE = 1; Jul 02 06:55:10 something like that Jul 02 06:58:05 agargiulo, I mean shouldn't that be defined in the android framework? Jul 02 06:58:08 jessicajames Do you mean the options button on the phone? Jul 02 06:58:32 Onions, is that what it's called? Jul 02 06:58:39 jessicajames google onOptionsItemSelected Jul 02 06:59:00 and onCreateOptionsMenu Jul 02 06:59:02 superlinux-hp: based on how they have it displayed, I don't think so Jul 02 06:59:08 see: http://www.droidnova.com/how-to-create-an-option-menu,427.html Jul 02 06:59:09 ah ok Jul 02 06:59:10 it's just a constant Jul 02 06:59:17 ok Jul 02 07:02:16 Onions, but I want the traditional (horizontal style) menu Jul 02 07:02:26 that one seems to be verticle and with pictures Jul 02 07:03:25 http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/menus.html Jul 02 07:04:12 thank you Jul 02 07:10:21 what is Android Lint? Jul 02 07:11:22 inspection tool Jul 02 07:11:47 oh okay Jul 02 07:14:07 where would I put the `Button button_name = ...` code? Jul 02 07:15:17 inside onCreate() make sense? Jul 02 07:15:54 agargiulo, if you mean findViewById stuff, then usually yeah Jul 02 07:16:31 okay cool. Jul 02 07:16:40 ugh, Lint is yelling at me, and I have no idea why... Jul 02 07:16:59 it's saying that my last line, which only has a } on it, is missing a ; Jul 02 07:24:08 I just donno what happened! the camera on the emulator just ran once on the same code i have!! I am on linux debian. what should I do to make it run again? Jul 02 07:24:47 Why do some apps, when you install them, create a launcher icon? Jul 02 07:24:49 some don't. Jul 02 07:24:55 spobat: intents Jul 02 07:25:11 http://developer.android.com/guide/components/intents-filters.html Jul 02 07:25:26 well, I'm off to bed. night #android-dev and thanks for all the help Jul 02 07:25:28 It's not exactly what I mean. Jul 02 07:25:34 oh? Jul 02 07:25:44 sorry. Jul 02 07:25:46 (almost) each app creates a launcher icon in the "all apps" view. Jul 02 07:26:07 but SOME are ADDITONALLY creating one on my home screen, where only my explicitly selected apps appear by default Jul 02 07:26:26 oh okay. that I don't know Jul 02 07:26:38 sorry, I misunderstood your question Jul 02 07:26:57 but anyway, I'm exhausted and have work in 9 hours so off to bed for me Jul 02 07:26:58 not your fault :). Good night! Jul 02 07:27:04 best of luck spobat Jul 02 07:27:09 thanks :) Jul 02 07:35:42 hi Jul 02 07:36:10 anyone here know what kernel version will be the official android 5 (Jelly Bean) release? Jul 02 07:37:23 Its 4.1 jelly bean Jul 02 07:38:42 okay precicely what happens when home button is pressed? Does variables lose their contents? Running Runnable is reset? Something else? Trying to figure out why program seems to behave errationally sometimes and I think it's happening when I don't have the main screen open anymore. I have the onSaveInstance from which I load stuff on onCreate and wakelock requested(yes I know it drains Jul 02 07:38:42 power but that's for user to decide does he want programs features. Would be meaningless program if it's not running all the time after activating it) Jul 02 07:42:32 tneva82_: if your activity is not in the foreground, it can be destroyed by the OS Jul 02 07:42:49 hmmm Jul 02 07:43:31 this could be trouble. The damn thing is supposed to be up all the time. If it can't be solved then the project needs to be dumbed :( Jul 02 07:43:40 Pity. Boss was really excited about the idea Jul 02 07:43:55 tneva82_: you can create a foreground service, it can be kept running almost always Jul 02 07:44:05 tneva82_: and creates a notification like the music player Jul 02 07:44:17 tneva82_: you must be really new to android ;) Jul 02 07:45:45 Im using in app billing, so I have: Jul 02 07:45:54 but how can I specify that it is not required Jul 02 07:45:58 it is an optional feature. Jul 02 07:47:09 Ge0rG yes. I only started programming like month ago Jul 02 07:47:31 thanks for the tip :) Looking at it Jul 02 07:49:52 How can I have a opaque canvas? Jul 02 07:54:17 hmm. documents for that sure are hard to find. Okay so found the function and there's basic example code but no real explanation what the code does. Jul 02 08:01:04 Is it possible to add multiple clickable items to the listview headerview ? Jul 02 08:04:39 Hi, anybody got in touch with Pierre Cardin F117 device? I'm trying to get ADB to work, but the internal settings pane has this setting disabled Jul 02 08:07:05 oh man, my moto droid-1 was mentioned as one of the worst tech devices EVAR Jul 02 08:07:08 http://developer.android.com/guide/components/services.html#Foreground <- does not work :( claims the startForeground function is undefined. Bloody hell. Jul 02 08:08:22 wut? Service.startForeground() works fine Jul 02 08:11:10 well example had no Service. part. Now it's complaining about cannot make static reference...yadda yadda yadda. Nice to have example piece of code that doesn't work without any indication as to what ELSE you have to do to your code to get example working. Jul 02 08:29:11 Hi. I am getting when i run the camera code: java.lang.RuntimeException: Unexpected Jpeg encoding quality levels 0. I am using Image mode. I am not using video mode. so how can I set it? Jul 02 08:29:20 or fix that? Jul 02 08:29:44 it ran once with me Jul 02 08:30:02 it ran once with me and never again Jul 02 08:31:46 ah got to to love when manual is more or less just example code without much of explanation. Copy&pasting it just results in crash. Jul 02 08:35:47 Hi! I interesting in Home Screen shortcuts. Some apps, istalled from GooglePlay, create Home Screen shortcuts automatically. I can create shortcut programmatically with intent, but only on app's first run. How to do it just after install? Jul 02 08:37:27 I've also noticed "Auto-add shortcuts" option into GooglePlay settings, but I can't find any developer docs about it... Jul 02 08:42:59 final fantasy III has so far easily the best controlling method ive seen on smartphones Jul 02 08:43:02 for games Jul 02 08:43:21 need to copy that if im gonna start working on a game later this year Jul 02 08:43:31 wonder if theres any other games out atm that use the same Jul 02 08:45:03 Hi. I am getting when i run the camera code: java.lang.RuntimeException: Unexpected Jpeg encoding quality levels 0. I am using Image mode. I am not using video mode. so how can I fix it? Jul 02 08:45:26 i am using the same code in the guide. Jul 02 08:57:22 how can i make a pointed button? Jul 02 08:57:31 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6559846/Capture.PNG Jul 02 09:01:36 ugh, parleys.com ucking sucks Jul 02 09:05:25 anyone know of *any* tutorial on creating a custom Layout? i went through every android book I have and the topic is conspicuously missing from all of them Jul 02 09:06:46 spobat: you mean the arrow background? Jul 02 09:07:19 solved :) Jul 02 09:07:21

Hi everybody, Jul 02 09:07:55 g00s: surely the samples has something you can reference... Jul 02 09:08:03 g00s: no clue, but you could go and see how framelayout works Jul 02 09:08:19 g00s: not really something you'd put in an android developer book Jul 02 09:08:21

I'm connecting to my android a device that connected throw USB host. If I send to the device a msg (from my android) Im expecting replay using onDataReceived. I've done it all using a class and it seems that after the function in the class that need to send the msg is over the connection is closed and I'm not getting anything in onDataReceived as I've had expected. anyone knows why it Jul 02 09:08:21

should happen? Jul 02 09:08:23 maybe an android internals book Jul 02 09:09:08 oh wait, i think iosched 2011 had a custom layout for its dashboard Jul 02 09:09:28 O_o Jul 02 09:09:52 linear and frame layout code is hard to follow. absolute layout is too basic Jul 02 09:10:01 s/frame/relative Jul 02 09:10:04 which is why we have gridlayout Jul 02 09:11:19 also in the support lib Jul 02 09:12:44 also: http://android-developers.blogspot.nl/2011/11/new-layout-widgets-space-and-gridlayout.html Jul 02 09:13:39 MDijkstra: sure; i'm aware of gridlayout. thanks Jul 02 09:14:02 g00s: if you have concrete questions about creating custom layouts, please ask.. Jul 02 09:14:33 tapas: well, creating a custom view is pretty easy. its covered in apidemos as well as every book i have Jul 02 09:14:46 yeah, a layout is a viewgroup.. Jul 02 09:15:17 i'm looking to create a grid of draggable squares not unlike the wp7 start screen. Jul 02 09:15:34 squares should be able to resize and be dragged around Jul 02 09:15:50 ah i remember the question from before the weekend i think.. Jul 02 09:15:59 :) Jul 02 09:16:31 that's an interesting problem. you not only want to create a static layout, which isn't too hard in itself.. Jul 02 09:17:02 but rather you want to at the same time minimize a stress function where one of the squares is hard constrained by its position Jul 02 09:17:09 while the others are to float around it, correct? Jul 02 09:17:15 exactly Jul 02 09:17:50 i don't think we can go through this at this time, since i'm at work right now.. would you be willing to pay for such a component? ;D Jul 02 09:18:18 hmm Jul 02 09:18:53 i feel like i'm taking the easy way out not learning how to do it myself Jul 02 09:18:57 if not, i might aid you in hacking it up in my spare time later this evening. but then we have to open source it :D Jul 02 09:19:01 what's the best way to remove an item from a gridview without knowing the item id, but only a text contained in a custom view? Jul 02 09:19:22 I've initialized the adapter as a SimpleAdapter Jul 02 09:20:11 elegos: if you can be sure that the child is visible when you want to remove it, you can iterate over the gridview's children and traverse the layout hierarchies of each child Jul 02 09:20:12 tapas: since there is a scarcity of info on the topic; maybe a blog entry is in order Jul 02 09:20:36 trying to cast every view you find to a textview and then searching through its text.. Jul 02 09:20:44 g00s: i guess so.. Jul 02 09:20:58 g00s: i planned on writing a blog post about my rather simple custom layout for a while.. Jul 02 09:21:06 tapas: problem is that the view is composed by a linear layout which has inside other objects Jul 02 09:21:14 tapas: should I cast it as linear layout? Jul 02 09:21:34 elegos: are all the views in the gridview having the same layout? Jul 02 09:21:45 yes tapas Jul 02 09:21:54 elegos: if so you can make assumptions about what kind of view you have and just cast it to LinearLayout Jul 02 09:22:01 then get its children, etc.... Jul 02 09:22:06 tapas: thanks :) Jul 02 09:22:40 elegos: you might consider pondering the design of your app though if you have to go that route Jul 02 09:23:05 it is possible, but it's no fun and WILL lead to bugs if you ever plan on changing the view layouts, et .. Jul 02 09:23:21 not a very future proof way of going about things. Jul 02 09:24:13 tapas: I have to delete an item loaded after a loader has finished in a grid layout, and it has its own XML layout. How would you rather suggest me to implement it? Jul 02 09:24:57 elegos: reload the grid Jul 02 09:25:01 tapas: found this, seems ore digestable than LL/RL/GL http://code.google.com/p/iosched/source/browse/android/src/com/google/android/apps/iosched/ui/widget/DashboardLayout.java Jul 02 09:25:54 MDijkstra: I've tried it using getLoaderManager.restartLoader, but it doesn't seem to update the view Jul 02 09:27:57 elegos: call invalidate() on it Jul 02 09:28:03 that will cause it be redrawn.. Jul 02 09:28:13 invalidate on the grid? Jul 02 09:32:11 sometimes i need to call forceLoad() Jul 02 09:34:05 I'm having a bit of an issue implementing a robust floating header listView. I need to make a listview that has a floating header, like the alphabet dividers in the contacts app. I think they call it "pinned Header". My pinned header needs to support buttons/checkboxes. The technique I have found to implement a pinned header, is however one that uses two views. Anyone know of good patterns to replicate the state between these two views? Jul 02 09:34:06 Currently, I'm writing a callback to set up the views, which the listView will call with both the static header and the floating header upon init. Jul 02 09:34:56 g00s: the loader loads the files in a directory into the grid. I've double-checked and the file got deleted before the loader finishes Jul 02 09:35:17 g00s: where should I forceLoad()? onStartLoader? Jul 02 09:35:29 hmm, implementing one's own ImageView has interesting problems when keeping the aspect ratio :D Jul 02 09:36:30 elegos: no, when you want the loader to update its contents based on something that changed which it is not listening to Jul 02 09:36:50 http://pastebin.com/SBg19PxK here's a paste. I guess, even though I feel it's a bit dirty, it seems to work. Jul 02 09:37:00 g00s: doesn't seem to be a public method... or I must have missed it Jul 02 09:37:14 elegos: its public Jul 02 09:37:32 (Loader base class) Jul 02 09:37:45 ah ok, found it Jul 02 09:40:05 informit is having an ebook sale; 1 30% off or 2 50% off if anyone cares. they have some mobile stuff Jul 02 09:41:29 Hello all Jul 02 09:43:23 i have a question i have created a custom expandeable list with a group.xml and child.xml and load data before the loading list but when i schroll the data will be downloaded agian how can i stop that Jul 02 09:48:06 g00s: http://pastebin.com/KtALg0qS ... the loader is always 0 (only one loader), the wait dialog comes up, so it's not null... though I still can't correctly update the grid Jul 02 09:51:41 elegos: what kind of Loader is it ? Jul 02 09:52:03 g00s: it's an AsyncTaskLoader Jul 02 09:52:34 elegos: first off: "intent.getAction() == BROADCAST_DOWNLOAD_CANCELLED" ----> fail Jul 02 09:52:44 use .equals() Jul 02 09:52:50 you're right Jul 02 09:53:16 next in this case, maybe forceLoad is not right, maybe you should restart the loader Jul 02 09:54:20 g00s: could I simply set an incremented loader id and start a new one? Jul 02 09:54:32 from a memory point of view Jul 02 09:55:54 Because i have a intent with a listarray in it with a custum object and send to that screen so it dont know the url where to download it how is it the possible Jul 02 10:02:07 wow nice numbers Jul 02 10:02:18 * hackkitten waves at g00s o/ Jul 02 10:02:26 psm theres 3... Jul 02 10:02:38 hi hackkitten Jul 02 10:02:52 hi there :D Jul 02 10:02:53 hello hackkitten Jul 02 10:02:59 hey all Jul 02 10:02:59 hi Snuffel :) Jul 02 10:03:05 hi everyone and everything o/ Jul 02 10:03:14 trying to understand this code https://github.com/android/platform_packages_apps_music/blob/master/src/com/android/music/TouchInterceptor.java Jul 02 10:03:36 euhm what program are you programming in? Jul 02 10:03:42 hey guys Jul 02 10:03:49 i mean whats the best programming tool Jul 02 10:03:58 i use eclipse Jul 02 10:03:59 i rate that as 'F' according to http://www.makinggoodsoftware.com/2009/06/30/types-of-code-how-to-rate-your-code-from-a-to-f/ Jul 02 10:04:05 * hackkitten intercepts g00s's touches~ Jul 02 10:04:11 :O Jul 02 10:04:14 :D Jul 02 10:04:49 g00s > what's that code supposed to do? Jul 02 10:05:00 draggable listview items Jul 02 10:05:06 ah Jul 02 10:05:32 after playing around with wp7 phone my neighbor has, i'm very impressed with its richness and interactivity Jul 02 10:05:38 * hackkitten nods Jul 02 10:05:41 WP7 FTW Jul 02 10:05:43 :> Jul 02 10:05:43 lots of interesting idoims Jul 02 10:05:55 the easy sharing of data between apps is <3 Jul 02 10:05:55 all android apps look like big listviews to me now Jul 02 10:05:58 waiting for wp8 ;D Jul 02 10:06:00 :D Jul 02 10:06:10 most android apps _are_ listviews :P Jul 02 10:06:22 indeed Jul 02 10:06:22 can sombody help me with a code? Jul 02 10:06:43 GKeizer: yes. 0xFF 0x25 Jul 02 10:06:45 * hackkitten hands g00s more listadapters~ Jul 02 10:06:56 * hackkitten hands funktronic a cookie~ Jul 02 10:07:07 GKeizer: if you'd like a near jmp though it's 0xFF 0x15 Jul 02 10:07:22 so what do you not understand about that code, g00s? :D Jul 02 10:07:45 trying to figure out how they are redrawing the dragged view Jul 02 10:07:53 ah Jul 02 10:08:04 euhm i have a intent with a arraylist with ojects in it i send it to a new screen and load a custom expandable list and thats gooing great but when i scroll it redownload the data how is that possible Jul 02 10:08:08 GKeizer: pastebin it Jul 02 10:08:09 which kinda floats above the listview and other items Jul 02 10:08:25 GKeizer: don't redownload the data every time Jul 02 10:08:33 since i have froyo :) …. i played with it, but its pretty hoakey Jul 02 10:08:55 but its on a next screen so it dont know the url from the last Jul 02 10:08:56 hoakey? :) Jul 02 10:09:19 g00s: they're all hoakey Jul 02 10:09:26 as far as I know, nothing is disrupting it from entering the thread Jul 02 10:09:34 GKeizer: do you want to redownload the data, like in twitters pull to refresh ? Jul 02 10:10:19 GKeizer: look up Activity.getIntent() and then Intent.getStringExtra() Jul 02 10:10:24 euhm i download the data in a screen with a JSON when i call the method and put it in a arraylist and after that i dont call the method no more Jul 02 10:11:11 g00s > it seems to be drawing the bitmap copy of the item being dragged Jul 02 10:12:31 fuck starting to hate android phone's. Now I can't sync with google drive without manually shuttig down the drive. Very unstable things these android's :( Jul 02 10:13:45 g00s > it simply changes the position of the imageview with the item's bitmap... that's then all redrawn using the standard listview draw(), I am guessing Jul 02 10:13:53 hackkitten: i don't think i understand a single line of this code Jul 02 10:13:59 it's quite clear to me Jul 02 10:14:03 wow ! Jul 02 10:14:06 but I have seen atrocious code lately Jul 02 10:14:09 so I'm... used to it Jul 02 10:14:11 ;_; Jul 02 10:14:12 sad to say Jul 02 10:14:32 also, working on AndEngine projects without a single shred of documentation :D Jul 02 10:14:36 hackkitten: ok, i'm going to head to bed soon, i may have to ask you about it some more later :) Jul 02 10:14:42 alright, sleep well g00s :D Jul 02 10:14:49 thanks :) Jul 02 10:15:10 http://pastebin.com/BspuRT6k Jul 02 10:17:30 GKeizer: what's your getView? Jul 02 10:18:32 do you mean this ? IllustrisActivity.this.startActivity(myIntent); Jul 02 10:19:02 that snippet isn't sufficient Jul 02 10:19:15 need the who code? Jul 02 10:19:34 whole* Jul 02 10:20:04 cut it down to the relevant items Jul 02 10:24:16 I create newIntent and call startActivity. New intent's onCreate function just calls super's oncreate and loads already working content. I have added to android manifest yet it crashesh when I try to open new intent. What might be issue? Jul 02 10:24:18 I've got this problem: "Caused by: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Fragment com.example.work.Fragments.Blank did not create a view." even if this is the Blank class: http://pastebin.com/ALQbXzGT Jul 02 10:24:23 how can I debug this error? Jul 02 10:24:35 1. Do root apps need permissions for actions that normally need permissions when using the normal API? 2. As the answer is probably yes (how should the system know if it's a root app if it hasn't a su shell), can you circumvent that without using the shell command alternatives? Jul 02 10:25:03 1. yes 2. no Jul 02 10:25:13 okay, thanks Jul 02 10:25:30 APKs work in a sandbox with optional links to the "outside world" (the permissions) Jul 02 10:25:39 so you need root access to do things via TTY Jul 02 10:40:12 I've got this problem: "Caused by: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Fragment com.example.work.Fragments.Blank did not create a view." even if this is the Blank class: http://pastebin.com/ALQbXzGT Jul 02 10:42:14 Any one familiar with the x10 mini pro here ? Jul 02 10:44:58 Hi everyone Jul 02 10:45:10 I'm using Android 4.0.4 Jul 02 10:45:33 does anybody know who is in charge to launch the systemUI process? Jul 02 10:45:42 #android-root Jul 02 10:45:53 ok tnx Jul 02 10:46:47 Got a question Jul 02 10:47:20 If i dont have dedicated boot partition where does my kernel live? Jul 02 10:47:52 'in the cloud' Jul 02 10:48:25 Recovery lives in chargmon as theres not a dedidcated recovery partition either Jul 02 10:48:35 see /topic Jul 02 10:48:49 Sm0k3x: app development here... "where does kernal live?" elsewhere Jul 02 10:52:37 well that could be related to development.. :) Jul 02 10:53:35 funktronic: not app development Jul 02 10:54:00 ROM development is the new mirc scripting. Jul 02 10:54:51 I agree Jul 02 11:03:07 hi. Jul 02 11:03:16 I've got a layout which has a fragment in it. I was forced to create a "placeholder" class, as I have to specify android:name. This leads me to unhandled errors (i.e. sometimes the step blank fragment -> replaced by another class and blank class unable to inflate the layout). Is there any way to let the placeholder class do nothing? Jul 02 11:03:27 my camera in the emulator is not working. i am on linux. Jul 02 11:03:30 or... avoid the placeholder Jul 02 11:04:27 i tried running the application named camera that comes with the emulator. it crashes. i thought it's my problem Jul 02 11:04:59 i tried running the application named camera that comes with the emulator. it crashes. i thought it was my mistake i mean Jul 02 11:05:10 I just hate this. nothing seems to work. can't get program to stay active, can't get cookies to work, can't get anything to work Jul 02 11:05:24