**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 20 02:59:59 2012 Jul 20 03:05:21 Hi Jul 20 03:08:30 If I want to build framework.jar used in emulator, which command shall I use "mm -j4", "mm PRODUCT-full-eng", "mm PRODUCT-generic-eng"? Jul 20 03:09:23 in the framework/base directory Jul 20 03:10:48 i think its full-eng, this is for compiling android right? Jul 20 03:11:50 its generic-eng for cyanogenmod actually Jul 20 04:21:09 got a question about permission="security" i tested in emulator and cm9. i got my app with the permission, and another app with that permission to send data with a broadcast. now i tested if it really blocks wrong signatures. so i installed my app first, then the other with different signature and get permission denial. all good, BUT, if i install the OTHER app FIRST and then my app, i do NOT get a permission denial! wh Jul 20 04:21:09 y? Jul 20 04:24:44 This is rather confusing. I'm seeing documentation all over the Internet that Android only supports BouncyCastle keystores (BKS). But in Jelly Bean I am getting a NullPointerException when specifying BKS. Jul 20 04:25:08 it would appear that, at least as of Jelly Bean, JKS files are now supported and default Jul 20 04:25:21 does anyone know what happened? Jul 20 04:36:27 hi all Jul 20 04:36:44 is there a way to view the manifest of an app from the google play site? to see why it is 'incompatible'? Jul 20 04:37:41 it gives a reasion when you try to install the application from the store Jul 20 04:37:44 *reason Jul 20 04:38:05 no it doesnt, it doesnt even display in the store if its incompatible Jul 20 04:38:30 i always get incompatiable coz of country or something like that Jul 20 04:38:30 jmg: install it on another device and then try apktool ;-) Jul 20 04:38:32 it displays on the web page with "This app is incompatible with your device" but doesnt specify why. now, if there was some way to download its manifest Jul 20 04:38:51 pboos: that would work if i had a device that it worked on Jul 20 04:39:34 jmg: then there is no way i guess. Jul 20 04:39:57 you mean, "i don't know" Jul 20 04:39:58 jmg: if you quickly tell me the packagename, i can look at the manifest for you Jul 20 04:40:06 jmg: true :) Jul 20 04:40:07 pboos: com.spotworks.electricsheep Jul 20 04:40:47 jmg: weird.. it is compatible with all my devices (in japan) Jul 20 04:40:51 jmg: what country are you in? Jul 20 04:41:02 i own it, and i had it installed this morning Jul 20 04:41:07 before i flashed cyanogenmod. Jul 20 04:41:17 i'm trying to work out what in build.prop is blocking it Jul 20 04:41:22 i'm in nz Jul 20 04:42:02 jmg: ah i see.. weird. if you own it, then you know what is in the manifest anyway :) Jul 20 04:42:24 not if i cant download it because it is no longer compatible with the device it was running on this morning ;D Jul 20 04:42:30 jmg: i guess it is not the manifest but some deeper problem then. but where.. if at least somewhere it would show WHY that message is displayed... Jul 20 04:43:09 no, the app compatibility is calculated against the manifest Jul 20 04:45:20 anyone around to help? Jul 20 04:47:51 jmg: true. but i see it costs. don't wanna spend money to help :D Jul 20 04:48:09 jmg: too bad you do not have a second device to download it and use apktool. Jul 20 04:48:43 quantibility: well, there are many people around i guess. question is, if they can help or want to help :D you can just ask the question and see if someone answers :) Jul 20 04:49:09 thank pboos Jul 20 04:49:11 s Jul 20 04:49:26 anyone need an idea for an app? Jul 20 04:49:40 pboos: too bad google play is retarded Jul 20 04:49:40 soundboard Jul 20 04:49:57 <---- i am into sound stuff too Jul 20 04:50:21 :) Jul 20 04:50:36 what are you doing nexsoft? Jul 20 04:50:41 quantibilly: whats the idea? Jul 20 04:50:44 quantibility: you have an idea you want somebody to implement? or what? Jul 20 04:50:49 sure Jul 20 04:50:52 im full of em Jul 20 04:51:06 like useing your android to control the mouse on the computer Jul 20 04:51:16 has been done already Jul 20 04:51:27 with motion? Jul 20 04:51:41 Has it? I want to use my tablet as a gigantic trackpad... Jul 20 04:51:48 what do you mean with "with motion"? Jul 20 04:51:50 lol Jul 20 04:51:52 awesome Jul 20 04:52:10 quantibility: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hungrybolo.remotemouseandroid&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5odW5ncnlib2xvLnJlbW90ZW1vdXNlYW5kcm9pZCJd Jul 20 04:53:38 pboos, kinda like useing a wii mote Jul 20 04:54:20 quantibility: ahh. .with using the gravity sensors/gyroscope.. not sure if that has been done :) Jul 20 04:54:39 ok, how do i view the manifest.xml from the apk file? Jul 20 04:55:11 "Bitmap bottomImage = new BitmapFactory.decodeFile(imagePath);" why is it givving me a "BitmapFactory.decodeFile cannot be resolved to a type" Jul 20 04:55:19 pboos: yeah Jul 20 04:55:29 jmg: https://code.google.com/p/android-apktool/ Jul 20 04:56:44 i wanna decompile apk's Jul 20 05:03:29 damnit, not the right one Jul 20 05:03:49 hi! Jul 20 05:03:55 i am getting problems trying to compile AOSP Jul 20 05:03:55 http://pastebin.com/zPcSxzNt Jul 20 05:03:59 anyone help? :) Jul 20 05:04:34 stabby stabby stabby. Jul 20 05:04:52 :o Jul 20 05:05:23 coolty: http://www.bo.infn.it/alice/alice-doc/mll-doc/ali-inst/node39.html at the bottom mentions your problem and how to solve it. Jul 20 05:05:42 coolty: google be your friend ;-) (took me 30 seconds to find it) Jul 20 05:06:06 coolty: answer on there: "you must check that the libraries and the programs are not mixed 32/64 bits. If you have 64 bit libraries recompile all code with the appropriate 64 bit compiler." Jul 20 05:06:14 hm Jul 20 05:06:27 but Jul 20 05:06:32 ok i'll try Jul 20 05:07:12 coolty: and the more android related one: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=17832 Jul 20 05:07:35 coolty: from that one: "Apart from that, the main issue was that you didn't have the 32-bit X11 libraries installed on your system." Jul 20 05:07:47 yeah Jul 20 05:08:04 debian 6 is multiarch.... and i can't find the 32 bit package for debian 6 Jul 20 05:08:13 sounds like i'm supposed to have ubuntu :| Jul 20 05:08:57 i narrowed it down to i need the 32bit x11 lib Jul 20 05:09:02 but cannot find it anywhere Jul 20 05:09:03 :( Jul 20 05:11:31 ok so how do i retreive the devicwe id for a device that is registered with my account in google play but i dont have in my immediate posession? Jul 20 05:12:29 this is starting to REALLY piss me off Jul 20 05:23:05 http://paste.nothing.net.nz/63efc1 why would that block?? Jul 20 05:23:38 what's that a paste of? Jul 20 05:24:00 aapt dump badging Jul 20 05:29:10 Anyone know why i permission=signature is not checked if the "hacker" application is installed before the main application? Jul 20 05:29:48 protectionLevel=signature i mean Jul 20 05:34:31 sorry, aapt isn't my area of expertise. Jul 20 05:34:56 question: has anyone compiled aosp from source in debian 6 squeeze? Jul 20 05:34:59 could it be, that a signature level permissions is either TRUE or FALSE once installed? so if an app, that defines and uses the permission is installed first, than it will be TRUE to access ANY other app (even with different signature) that is installed after that app? Jul 20 05:39:58 DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS. DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS. DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS. Cmon everybody!! DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS Jul 20 05:44:52 oh. Jul 20 05:45:38 Question: if I use the tag to add say a custom header to every page, how do I determine the value of a text field in that custom header for each page? Jul 20 05:45:53 i've looked everywhere at the merge/include info and nothing seems to be able to dot hat Jul 20 05:47:25 you'll have to do it from code Jul 20 05:54:11 Hi Jul 20 05:54:51 is there some way to launch a bat file on usb connection? Jul 20 05:55:37 like i am trying with autorun.inf but with confused on where to put that file Jul 20 05:57:36 i read to put the autorun.inf file in the root folder of the android device . how to detect the root folder? plz help Jul 20 05:58:10 coolty: you may have more success in #android-root or #android, most of the people here are application developers Jul 20 05:58:50 DopeShope: you could set up a script that uses adb wait-for-device or something similar Jul 20 05:58:50 ummmm Jul 20 05:59:01 ryanm: no this is definitely about android-dev Jul 20 05:59:23 coolty: what does compiling AOSP have to do with application development? Jul 20 06:00:03 #android-dev isn't only about developing applications for android Jul 20 06:00:09 it could be about developing android itself. Jul 20 06:00:32 coolty: look at the first three words of the channel topic please :-) Jul 20 06:01:01 Well, it's not about a custom rom, it's about the vanilla os Jul 20 06:01:13 and people in #android said to try here Jul 20 06:01:27 ryanm: using the script and using adb will launch application if the android device is in the debugging mode . I am connecting device in MTP mode Jul 20 06:01:29 even saying you were right you'd still probably have better luck in #android-root Jul 20 06:01:42 coolty: what's your question? Jul 20 06:02:29 i've asked it awhile ago and nobody can help me, but it was has anyone successfully compiled aosp (or b2g) from source in debian 6 squeeze Jul 20 06:02:42 sorry I don't use Debian Jul 20 06:02:47 but I don't see why it would be a problem Jul 20 06:03:12 well it is a problem, the 32bit libs for x11 aren't available on 64 bit squeeze Jul 20 06:03:21 and even people in #debian have no clue Jul 20 06:03:27 AOSP doesn't use X11 Jul 20 06:03:28 they suggested i try a virtual machine Jul 20 06:03:32 DopeShope: hmm, good point. I'm not sure, in that case. Jul 20 06:03:38 sure it does Jul 20 06:03:44 x11 dev libs Jul 20 06:04:04 Android doesn't use X11 Jul 20 06:04:07 and it's an emulator image, not for an actual device Jul 20 06:04:11 ah Jul 20 06:04:16 so probably qemu Jul 20 06:04:21 yeah qemu would Jul 20 06:04:32 you could try to build the system image without the emulator Jul 20 06:04:41 and just use the emulator from the SDK Jul 20 06:04:42 anyway the whole internet is basically telling me to use ubuntu Jul 20 06:04:45 which i think is dumb Jul 20 06:05:04 I found dat: to run a bat file on usb connection, create a autorun.inf and specify the bat file and place the autorun in the root folder. Its just not working Jul 20 06:05:21 yes i could try compiling just the system image Jul 20 06:05:39 coolty: maybe you could use a 32 bit chroot? Jul 20 06:05:48 yeah i was thinking about that Jul 20 06:05:54 but virtualbox might be easier Jul 20 06:06:12 DopeShope: even so, that won't automatically happen at least on Vista and above. It'll display a prompt first. Jul 20 06:06:13 ugh compiling in vb :( Jul 20 06:07:00 i did that once, it made my CPU go to 800% usage :D Jul 20 06:07:42 how is that possible Jul 20 06:07:43 :O Jul 20 06:07:48 ryanm: yes, but where to place the inf file for that Jul 20 06:07:51 coolty: 8 cores :) Jul 20 06:07:57 lol oh ok Jul 20 06:08:00 You'll probably need to find/write something that hooks into your OS's USB stuff... a quick google search found this thread, but I'm not sure how useful it would be: http://www.pcguide.com/vb/showthread.php?t=70158 Jul 20 06:08:10 nor can I vouch for any of the solutions Jul 20 06:10:40 I haven't got a Windows computer handy to try any solutions on, so I'm not sure. Jul 20 06:13:59 actually its for windows. i want this to be done on android and launch app on windows Jul 20 06:14:26 f2prateek, yes, it is for compiling android Jul 20 06:15:41 f2prateek, finally I use "mm PRODUCT-full-eng" and everything is perfect. Jul 20 06:16:42 romainguy: yeap, thats the conclusion I came to. too bad really Jul 20 06:17:12 Jul 20 06:17:14 oh.. romainbuy__ is here? :) Jul 20 06:17:15 otherwise just a waste Jul 20 06:17:21 romainguy i mean :D Jul 20 06:17:23 I added a new XML file to my res/layout folder. But it doesn't seem to be showing up in R.layout._____ … is there something else I need to do to have it recognized? Jul 20 06:17:52 romainguy: do you happen to know about permission targetLevel=signature implementation? Jul 20 06:18:18 i mean: protectionLevel=signature Jul 20 06:21:08 i even tried file->new->out->android_android xml layout Jul 20 06:21:16 no matter what I do, I can't seem to access it via R.layout Jul 20 06:22:36 oh, http://stackoverflow.com/a/3259974/716008 Jul 20 06:35:01 yeow, nexus 7 arrived Jul 20 06:35:10 Is it silly to have a class that is codependent on another, and useless otherwise? Are nested classes a better solution? Jul 20 06:35:56 by codepending you mean extends? Jul 20 06:36:07 dependent* Jul 20 06:36:39 Nope I just mean that it can't operate without the other, the classes are making calls to each other. Which throws me off and seems confusing. Jul 20 06:42:11 This question feels stupid, I am going to leave now Jul 20 06:46:07 so the design guidelines show the youtube app using actionbar+tabs Jul 20 06:46:10 http://developer.android.com/design/media/app_structure_fixedtabs.png Jul 20 06:46:23 but now the youtube app uses that sidebar swipe UI pattern Jul 20 06:46:30 ?!?!? Jul 20 06:51:31 there were no questions in those four lines Jul 20 06:53:07 Hello Jul 20 06:54:05 JakeWharton, Know anything on infrared Jul 20 06:54:40 in the context of Android, not a single thing Jul 20 06:55:43 JakeWharton: "does the android actionbar/nav/tabs pattern not satisfy youtube UI requirements? If not, are the android patterns not good enough? Shouldn't the google apps at least be consistent?" Jul 20 06:56:32 hehe merissa is still on http://developer.android.com/design/patterns/new-4-0.html Jul 20 06:57:32 It satisfied them fine for approximately 12 months. The app is still adheres to the patterns so clearly they are good enough. If applications are never allowed to experiment and innovate the platform will stagnate. This is compounded since everyone looks to Google apps being handed down from a god and mirroring every nuance in their own apps. Jul 20 06:57:50 Put simply, the app has been updated more recently than the website. Jul 20 06:59:00 anyone from Switzerland here ? I'm interested to see prices of samsung s3 in swiss Jul 20 07:00:53 JakeWharton: Maybe stupid question, but is it possible to show same items (in ABS) with menu key, as there are as actions Jul 20 07:01:10 no Jul 20 07:02:28 ok. I understand you don't want to implement anything that is not in 4.0 android :) but idea using menu key is that on portrait mode there is only icon, no text. And the icns are not always obvious to the users, menu key would allow to show a text too Jul 20 07:02:49 menu key does not show anything at the moment, as I try to avoid the overflow Jul 20 07:03:23 didn't figure out any way to "hack" this behaviour either Jul 20 07:03:34 Since ICS does not behave that way on Android 4.0+ when a menu key is present ABS will not act that way. Jul 20 07:04:17 yep, that's clear concept, otherwise the whole project might weer to completely different direction Jul 20 07:05:06 is there any common pattern to help user with the toolbar actions ? other than switching to the landscape mode to see the text Jul 20 07:05:20 if you set a description the user can see it by long pressing the icon Jul 20 07:05:50 you can also omit an icon and text will be displayed but I can see how that would be less desirable Jul 20 07:06:18 JakeWharton: yep the icon is more important Jul 20 07:06:54 JakeWharton: hello, have you plan to fix lint warning in ABS ? maybe with lint annotations Jul 20 07:06:57 romainguy__: ah, very good. I did not know that! It helps a bit, but not sure how many users know of this pattern Jul 20 07:08:02 neoakira: the lint jar is not available for maven compilation Jul 20 07:08:09 as I see it actions pattern have a small problem with this. with menu key you never saw what actions are available. but with actionbar you don't always know what they do :) Jul 20 07:08:35 ok Jul 20 07:08:39 I'd love some platform wide "help" pattern Jul 20 07:09:06 ok the long press sort of works but not sure if the users figure that out Jul 20 07:09:49 maybe I'll teach that pattern to my users, as a "hint" box Jul 20 07:11:49 are there any cyanogenmod virtualbox images around? Jul 20 07:11:56 ask #cyanogenmod Jul 20 07:12:03 oops ww Jul 20 07:21:34 In my programm, I have an interface to 'something' that displays a result. On the desktop, the main class simply calss a Swing frame that implements this interface and shows the results. On android I could easily detect it an use an android class for it. But here is my question: I want to use the same srouce for desktop/android - what is best practice to do so? Since eclise then marks an error of the non existing swing Jul 20 07:21:34 classes in the cp in the mainclass, eventho these are never instanciated Jul 20 07:22:02 use a common library between the two for shared code Jul 20 07:22:17 hello Jul 20 07:22:35 or have the desktop app depend on the android app and when compiling mark the 'android.jar' as a provided dependency Jul 20 07:23:36 Question, anyone know anything about electronics / Jul 20 07:24:50 JakeWharton: Hmm, since swing is not a common library this wont work. But marking libs as simply provided (and thus ignore by eclipse) might be exactly what I am looking for. Trying to find it ^.^ Jul 20 07:25:16 the interface would be in the common library Jul 20 07:25:25 and then the desktop and android apps would depend on that common library Jul 20 07:25:26 StevenCodes22: Yes, but that might be the wrong channel here. Jul 20 07:26:22 Yeah kinda 50/50 i'm making an IR emitter for my droid and receiver for my pc I have reciever done just need to know how I can read the data/command it Jul 20 07:28:01 Hmm, but the 'display' interface would still need to be implemented inside the project, which brings back the referencedto classes not in CP. Or do you mean even moving the implementation into the library? Then I would have no android/swing-specific code in the project, which might be cool, but sounds difficult to maintain :P Jul 20 07:41:26 Interesting graphic: http://www.cultofmac.com/175773/look-how-many-competitors-apple-has-destroyed-in-just-the-last-year-alone-chart/ Jul 20 07:51:22 Is there a way to check whether IP address is DHCP assigned? Jul 20 07:54:44 Hi, I have REST http api, any way to ensure request are made only from my application? Jul 20 07:57:22 should there be any difference between installing a apk by cliking the apk file in the file manager, or downloading it from an url and clicking it, and using adb to install? Adb and downloading it via the browser works, but clicking the apk file on a sd drive does not, it just gives you the regular install window then say "App not installed" Jul 20 07:59:17 holy shit. that x86 image for the emulatore + opengl support is badass Jul 20 07:59:26 boots in seconds, handles way faster than my dual core Jul 20 07:59:36 quite a ridiculous improvement from the usual emulation Jul 20 07:59:43 asfdd: perhaps the file manager does something wrong? or the file on the sdcard is corupt? Jul 20 08:00:51 Prot, What are you talking about ? Jul 20 08:01:00 AVD Jul 20 08:01:20 ridiculous performance Jul 20 08:01:32 going to seriously speed up dev Jul 20 08:02:11 very nice of intel to release that image Jul 20 08:04:13 android 4.0.3 only right now, but i'm not complaining Jul 20 08:05:03 Prot can it be used on the Samsung Replenish Jul 20 08:06:31 wuzzat Jul 20 08:06:48 this support is for intel processors that have the Execute Disable Bit feature Jul 20 08:06:59 not sure which procs, but my 1st gen i7 has it Jul 20 08:07:35 uh, replenish appears to be an android phone? Jul 20 08:07:38 i'm talking about emulation Jul 20 08:07:58 No clue what that means lol Jul 20 08:15:31 this is an android developers channel Jul 20 08:15:43 so I'm assuming people in here know about the android sdk when I talk about things Jul 20 08:19:19 Prot: I've tried using the x86 image, it doesn't seem much faster than emulation Jul 20 08:19:27 that said I did test on two different machines Jul 20 08:23:12 Prot what image? Jul 20 08:23:16 /which Jul 20 08:23:24 intel's x86 android 4.0.3 image Jul 20 08:23:53 k Jul 20 08:23:56 'Intel x86 Atom System Image' in the Android 4.0.3 API section Jul 20 08:24:14 also need in Extras 'Intel Hardware Accelerated.....' Jul 20 08:24:39 ah Jul 20 08:24:51 need a processor that supports Execute Disable Bit Jul 20 08:24:59 i had to go turn it on in my bios and then install that driver Jul 20 08:25:06 and dedicate 2gb of ram to android emulation Jul 20 08:25:11 but holyshit are the results ridiculous Jul 20 08:25:36 and ofcourse set your AVD to intel cpu rather than arm7 Jul 20 08:25:37 afk Jul 20 08:39:19 so, anyone know how to make tab graphics fill the entire tab, got 3 tabs at the bottom and theres big gaps between em, but i cant work out how to make the graphic stretch to fill the whole tab.. Jul 20 08:40:36 Sorry Gaz` i simply dont know, what i can tell you next time though is dont use tabs ;) haha Jul 20 08:41:08 Ive got a very systematic problem. I boot up my app once and the UI loads, i boot it again and it loads again, the third time it doesnt load Jul 20 08:42:46 i know its a nightmare Jul 20 08:42:48 tabs suck bad Jul 20 08:43:01 client is angry about the gaps Jul 20 08:43:12 but i got no iodea what i can do to make it work on all diff screens Jul 20 08:43:27 yeah my troubles are related to tabs too :( Jul 20 08:43:29 and im getting the usual spiel about being over due etc Jul 20 08:43:44 pressure really doesnt make me work harder, im already working a shard as i can Jul 20 08:52:36 hmm, we have a strange problem here: some classes inherit EditText and they work great with all the attributes, etc., set from xml Jul 20 08:53:12 now we wanted to add an android:ellipsize="marquee" attribute to such a view. and we get an 07-20 10:42:09.623: E/AndroidRuntime(22816): Caused by: android.view.InflateException: Binary XML file line #51: ... Jul 20 08:55:37 is there a default color in @color:android for links? Jul 20 08:56:06 @android:color * Jul 20 08:56:28 interesting.. it seems to only fail with ellipsize="marquee".. it seems to work with "end" Jul 20 08:58:22 can anyone explain viewgutters, what is it? (viewpager) Jul 20 08:58:36 hello, is it possible to start (and run) a service multiple times ? Jul 20 08:59:00 Pinas: one instance only Jul 20 08:59:16 Pinas: but you can send multiple startcommands Jul 20 09:00:22 i'd like to do something like this: create a Service -> service does some processing on data -> starts asynch task with this data -> same again for different data Jul 20 09:01:15 what I currently do is, that I start the service several times and send the different data via the intent but this does not seem to work Jul 20 09:01:23 Pinas: looked at IntentService? Jul 20 09:01:40 appell - now I did not even knew that something like this exists :D Jul 20 09:03:44 is there anyway in the marketplace to localise your app graphic based on region? Jul 20 09:20:13 what I can do is to run the same AsyncTask multiple times right ??? (create several instances and instance.execute id.) Jul 20 09:21:43 Pinas: IntentService doesn't work for you? Jul 20 09:22:52 appell - I don't think so, becaus the asyncTask actually will only finish on user input, so I want to have the processing in paralell Jul 20 09:24:36 Pinas: ok Jul 20 09:30:31 is it possible to pass a view through saved instance state? Jul 20 09:30:57 if not, whats the best way to make sure it doesn't get destroyed on orientation change? make it static? Jul 20 09:31:28 extend the view and implement serializable? Jul 20 09:32:56 CallumTaylor: either use something like onSaveInstanceState or onRetainConfigurationInstance and restore your activity or handle the orientation change yourself http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/resources/runtime-changes.html Jul 20 09:33:16 yeah but I can't put the view into the bundle to get passed back to oncreate Jul 20 09:33:19 thats my problem Jul 20 09:33:57 CallumTaylor: if you can't save and restore its state then I guess you have to handle configuration changes yourself Jul 20 09:34:06 hmm Jul 20 09:34:25 ok ill have a look, thanks appel1 Jul 20 09:35:02 Hello folks. Jul 20 09:35:21 Is anyone using Maven for their android projects? Jul 20 09:35:36 If so, any of you using third party android libraries? Jul 20 09:37:16 ah perfect: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1002085/android-webview-handling-orientation-changes appel1 Jul 20 09:37:20 exactly what I need Jul 20 09:42:32 GeorgeJ: I do both. Jul 20 09:44:32 ch0wn: Awesome, I've got a really fwked up Android library I need to use(bbb-android-core @ https://github.com/mconf/mconf-mobile). And I can't figure how I should properly integrate it with maven. Jul 20 09:44:55 The project sctructure is kind of fwked up, if you ask me. Jul 20 09:45:46 there fuck all of you I have my IR Jul 20 09:45:46 lol Jul 20 09:45:49 Afaik, maven-android-plugin supports apklib, but I can't figure out how to build the apklib so I can deploy it to my local repository. Jul 20 09:46:45 Is it possible to change the color of the line/border below textfields ? ( creating my own theme, inheriting from holo light) Jul 20 09:47:10 do I actually have to create my own 9patch images (like the ones android is using for this line?) Jul 20 09:48:17 I also want to change the color of the tab-bar etc.. the blue line should be red.. :P Jul 20 09:48:39 ch0wn: Should I just create a zip of the android project with apklib extension and deploy it with mvn install:install? Jul 20 10:05:46 hi Jul 20 10:06:43 does anyone know how to alter emulator capabilities ? I need to test an OpenGL ES 2 app but GLES2 is reported as not supported Jul 20 10:08:27 any ideas how i could run 3 async tasks in paralell ( Androdi 2.3 - 4.1). There seems to be a limit of 1 AsyncTask until Version 1.6. Then from 1.6 - 3.0 you can run 5 paralell asynctask and >3.0 again only 1 Jul 20 10:08:46 I'm a bit confused now ... Jul 20 10:13:16 Pinas, use THREAD_POOL_EXECUTOR as a parameter of executeOnExecutor Jul 20 10:15:16 ducky_h - executeOnExecutor exist since API level 11 - i need to by compatible with android 2.3.3 (API 10) Jul 20 10:15:23 s/by/be/ Jul 20 10:15:41 hi guys..i don't have google play (market )app on my android phone Jul 20 10:15:41 how can i download it to install other apps from google play? Jul 20 10:16:16 Is is possible to have a PendingIntent (from a notification) force a restart on an Activity even if it's currently being displayed? Jul 20 10:16:39 code1 ^^^ Jul 20 10:16:39 Pinas, check this, http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/AsyncTask.html#execute(Params...) Jul 20 10:16:51 anyone for my simple question? Jul 20 10:17:02 irmal_: wrong channel. Jul 20 10:17:12 right channel ? Jul 20 10:17:23 code1 Jul 20 10:17:42 no this is a developer channel - you're question is not try #android Jul 20 10:19:45 I'll try it, thx ducky_h Jul 20 10:39:32 another question. When my app has minimum api level 10, and i am running on an android 4 - can i use android 4 features (when doing previous check) Jul 20 11:05:48 Pinas: just set the appropriate target api level and ensure that you only use features that are available, there are plenty of samples of how to do this. Jul 20 11:07:12 appell - the problem ist, that when I am on api lvl 11 or higher i have to use executeOnExecutor, when i am on api 10 an lower I can only use .execute. Jul 20 11:07:19 So i somehow should check the api level Jul 20 11:07:44 Pinas: yes Jul 20 11:09:44 well and if i say min api level is 11 I think that I can't run the whole app on a android 2.3.3 phone Jul 20 11:10:07 Pinas: so don't set min level to 11 Jul 20 11:10:12 you should set the min api to say 8 and the target to 11 Jul 20 11:10:39 Hello. Can I use an NFC enabled Android phone to communicate with contactless smart cards (not RFID tags). Jul 20 11:11:42 That depends a lot on the card. Jul 20 11:11:49 you probably should set target to the highest api level you've tested the app on Jul 20 11:11:49 appell - ok thank you :) Jul 20 11:20:18 hi, if i read it correctly you need a CursorLoader to async load the cursor to populate a listview, but if i click the list item and start a new activity or trigger a fragment update, does that fragment need to have a CursorLoader as well to query all the details of the item? Jul 20 11:23:45 http://i.imgur.com/RGymdm.jpg Jul 20 11:23:54 sry, missclick Jul 20 11:24:42 Hey guys Jul 20 11:25:30 awesome. Jul 20 11:25:37 my app makes the android screenshot tool crash Jul 20 11:25:51 (the one integrated in eclipse) Jul 20 11:26:42 never thought that would be possible Jul 20 11:28:07 spobat: what happens exactly? does it get to show the screen? Jul 20 11:28:37 well i clicked the "take shot" and afterwards the window freezed. Jul 20 11:28:44 afterwards eclipse crashed. Jul 20 11:28:51 spobat: what happens if you try to take a screenshot outside of your app Jul 20 11:29:00 it works normally. Jul 20 11:29:06 (I've taken screenshots before) Jul 20 11:29:09 spobat: that's weird.. Jul 20 11:29:22 basically, its the same app, just a different "view" of it. Jul 20 11:30:05 cool, I restarted eclipse and now it works. Seems like some very rare kind of a bug. Jul 20 11:30:22 i made about 10 screenshots before and it was alright Jul 20 11:30:23 ha ha, that thing is very temperamental :D Jul 20 11:30:31 and the 11th made it all bad. Jul 20 11:35:30 wow Jul 20 11:35:37 I have a full screen activity and sometimes I have transparent activities pop up in front of it. But if I press the home button and then return, only the front activity will be visible and the back will be all black.. How can I make both activities show up in that case? Jul 20 11:37:02 Hi all. I was designing my first app in photoshop, working off a 720 x 1280 template. I can't seem to find how high the menubar at the top is (in pixels) Jul 20 11:37:31 Eclipse is pretty crazy like that, usually a restart solves problems - kinda like "restart your PC!" ;p Jul 20 11:38:24 ThomQ: I don't think you should rely on px measures to draw your layout Jul 20 11:39:30 yeah you're right. It's a percentage for all screens anyway, right? Jul 20 11:39:35 ThomQ: you'll need to work it out for your resolution template Jul 20 11:39:47 yes measured in dp Jul 20 11:41:24 ok cool, I'll do that Jul 20 11:43:18 another question: Android resizes everything to fit on the apropriate screen, right? So i chose one of the biggest screens as a template to design on.. Good idea, or am I overlooking things? Jul 20 11:43:18 ThomQ: You could try building your layout on the eclipse layout editor with default widgets, then take a screenshot and build your mockup on photoshop from that Jul 20 11:45:14 ThomQ: that's what I do, design for HDPI then use Shrink-o-matic to resize all the images down to half for LDPI and 75% for MDPI Jul 20 11:45:37 I'm trying to force a users browser to download an image file, rather than display it. What I've written works on desktop browsers, but fails on all android browsers - has anyone in here encountered this problem before or suggest a fix? Jul 20 11:48:55 CallumTaylor: But that doesn't work for tablets.. My phone has a 854*480 4" screen and is hdpi. My tablet has a 1280*800 10.1" screen and it's only mdpi.. When I did that, my tablet only had mdpi images largely scaled Jul 20 11:50:19 You could add another folder to the res/ directory called drawable-xlarge and put there all your xhdpi images, which will look better on tablets Jul 20 11:50:48 yeah, I saw eclipse made an xhdpi folder Jul 20 11:51:24 @Callum: So you shrink them down manually, instead of letting android handle it? Jul 20 11:51:56 ThomQ: But that is only for very high density screens, which only phones have. Tablets are usually mdpi only Jul 20 11:53:06 ThomQ: You create your images, and then resize them and put them in the different folders (ldpi, mdpi, hdpi and xhdpi) and Android then chooses the "best match" and resizes to fit the screen Jul 20 11:53:07 ahh ok.. Weird though, isn't it? You'd think the bigger the screens, the higher the density, right? Jul 20 11:53:26 ThomQ: yes, android does a piss poor job of the images Jul 20 11:53:36 ThomQ: they get really crap edges Jul 20 11:53:57 :P ok cool.. kinda common when you auto-resize stuff, isn't it Jul 20 11:54:02 ThomQ: The bigger the screen, the larger the resolution. But density is resolution/size.. So a large screen would need a proportionally large resolution to match a phone Jul 20 11:55:23 /9/6 Jul 20 11:55:52 ahh yeah ofcourse, @ ricardo Jul 20 11:56:38 The approach I used on my game was having the normal 4 folders with the correctly resized images inside (ldpi, mdpi, hdpi and xhdpi) and then another folder drawable-large with exactly the same images as the xhdpi to be used on tablets Jul 20 12:00:11 Estel: I do not have any particular card in mind. I am looking for secure identification. Jul 20 12:04:41 The bigger the screen does not always mean the larger the resolution. Jul 20 12:06:30 My 4" screen has a larger resolution than my 14" monitor! ;p Jul 20 12:08:50 True, that's why we use density Jul 20 12:09:39 if i count in dip then bigger screen will have higher resolution :) Jul 20 12:10:05 ricardjorg: I suppose the way would be to provide ldpi, mdpi, hdpi, xdpi, and then another 4 for ldpi-large, mdpi-large, hdpi-large and xdpi-large. Jul 20 12:11:13 Lachezar: Maybe.. Depends on your targets.. I think it would be hard to find large screens (7" and up) with ldpi, hdpi and xdpi Jul 20 12:11:57 The hdpi and xhdpi may be coming soon (very high resolution displays :D), but for now, all tablets seem to be mdpi, I think.. Jul 20 12:12:41 The problem is that duplicating the folders, doubles the size your images take on the apk :/ Jul 20 12:13:53 ricardjorg: What's the dpi for Galaxy Tab 1, and Galaxy Tab 2? Google Nexus 7? iPad 1 is ldpi (132 dpi).. Jul 20 12:14:15 ricardjorg: The iPad is just for reference. Jul 20 12:14:44