**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 21 02:59:58 2012 Jul 21 03:06:23 how would you implement double dpads? Jul 21 03:16:33 Hey, do you know if the WiFi Sleep Policy is permanent (if it will continue active after the first time, and even after power cycling the phone)? Jul 21 03:17:20 Hello? Jul 21 03:17:28 Hello, Simran Jul 21 03:17:40 I'm needed some help with an app of mine Jul 21 03:17:56 I don't know if anyone would be able to help? Jul 21 03:18:07 Just ask Jul 21 03:18:25 Simran, everyone here accepts paypal payments P Jul 21 03:18:35 lol Jul 21 03:18:43 No PayPal monies right now :P Jul 21 03:19:04 Anyways, I compiled a litecoin miner which is coded in C to android Jul 21 03:19:13 you need to tell us what you actually want help with... it's a bit hard for us... ooookay Jul 21 03:19:22 and it works fine if I run it in adb shell or terminal emulator Jul 21 03:19:25 This is what happens Jul 21 03:19:48 http://i.imgur.com/nuMK3.png Jul 21 03:19:52 It's all good Jul 21 03:20:15 So I decided to make a gui for it simply by using runtime.exec and just read the output Jul 21 03:20:25 Simran: people will generally help particularly if it is interesting, no money needed Jul 21 03:20:41 However I get no output unless I tun the --help command Jul 21 03:20:46 Other than that Jul 21 03:20:57 I get nothing printed in my textbox xonsole thing Jul 21 03:21:06 *console Jul 21 03:22:39 Oh to mention, it exits with the exit value of 1 Jul 21 03:22:44 Not sure what that means Jul 21 03:22:55 But I just want that to work :\ Jul 21 03:23:09 oh and I'm running it in a thread, because if I don't well.. the app freezes Jul 21 03:24:52 and it throwing an errors 0_o Jul 21 03:24:54 Any ideas? Jul 21 03:25:39 No idea here, you might try asking later when @romainguy is around Jul 21 03:26:27 Okay Jul 21 03:26:57 er, no Jul 21 03:27:10 what does a litecoin miner do anyways? Jul 21 03:27:18 mine litecoins Jul 21 03:27:27 another type of cryptocurrency besides bitcoins Jul 21 03:27:39 what does the mine part mean? Jul 21 03:28:17 for whatever reason i get the image of an 8-bit character in minecraft with a digital pick axe mining a litecoin vein ;p Jul 21 03:28:31 lasserix: wastes energy to generate cryptographic strings which represent a made up 'currency' Jul 21 03:28:35 hashes Jul 21 03:28:38 Hard to explain Jul 21 03:28:52 basically, you exchange a certain amount of computing power for a unit of 'currency' Jul 21 03:29:05 ^^^ Jul 21 03:29:28 but the computing power isn't *used* for anything apart from doing complex crypto to generate the 'currency' - it's not like it's a reward for folding@home or something Jul 21 03:29:46 a particularly insane thing to do on a portable battery-powered device Jul 21 03:29:59 litecoins are cpu friendly Jul 21 03:30:16 unlike bitcoins which requires a lot of gpu power Jul 21 03:30:20 might be useful in areas of the world where all you have is a solar powered smart phone ;p; Jul 21 03:30:31 Prolly Jul 21 03:30:47 hmm interesting, seems a little bit weird to me, like a broker who trades on their own accounts Jul 21 03:31:00 anyways gota go brb goodluck simran Jul 21 03:31:08 Thanks, man. Jul 21 03:31:45 if you stick around romainguy can probably point you in the right direction, usually he is active around 12-2am pst Jul 21 03:31:56 Hey all. Jul 21 03:31:58 That's too late for me Jul 21 03:32:03 parents will get man >.> Jul 21 03:32:07 *mad Jul 21 03:32:13 Question, has any of you ever managed to install adb INSIDE android? Jul 21 03:32:30 oh, for fuck's sake Jul 21 03:32:35 Doesn't android already have an adb binary? Jul 21 03:32:37 Lars_G: that makes *no sense* Jul 21 03:32:45 Has anyone used maven for your android project? Jul 21 03:33:02 Leeds: No? really? so then I can't access adb shell on my android phone, from my android tablet? Jul 21 03:33:20 just open a fucking shell if you want a fucking shell Jul 21 03:33:28 adb is a fucking remote debug tool Jul 21 03:33:31 argh Jul 21 03:33:33 * Leeds away Jul 21 03:33:39 Leeds: Why are hyou so fucking pedant? Jul 21 03:33:54 bad mood? Jul 21 03:33:54 Leeds: It's hard to open a shell to a nexus one in recovery... you know, no keyboard and all.... Jul 21 03:35:48 How old you guys? Jul 21 03:36:34 Simran: You're absolutely right, thank you Jul 21 03:36:52 ? Jul 21 03:36:54 Simran: I guess the morons at google didn't consult with Leeds to knwo what makes sense and what not. tyvm dude Jul 21 03:37:17 I just asked how old you guys were 0_o Jul 21 03:37:20 Simran: About there being an adb binary on the android system already Jul 21 03:37:42 Oh lol Jul 21 03:37:54 this is perfect Jul 21 03:38:12 I'm 15 :) Jul 21 03:38:16 it means if one dev goes down on the road, I might be able to fix with the other one. which means I can sub my laptop for my tablet Jul 21 03:38:19 I'm 35 Jul 21 03:38:23 btw Jul 21 03:38:46 Why most devs so old? Jul 21 03:39:26 I didn't mean you're old Jul 21 03:39:29 err, this is a lifetime job, not like sport Jul 21 03:39:31 hahaha Jul 21 03:39:41 hoangtran: Yes, but some people do start young Jul 21 03:39:43 I see. Jul 21 03:40:04 I hope I can make the GUI for this C binary Jul 21 03:40:10 hoangtran: Yet, as the raspberry pi creator said in a podcast i listened to today, less and less kids are getting interested in programming/hacking etc Jul 21 03:40:15 Lars_G: yeah, I mean they don't leave early Jul 21 03:40:41 Was a bitch to cross compile it for ARM devices to begin with Jul 21 03:40:42 >.> Jul 21 03:41:23 Simran: Cross compiling is complicated.... btw android devs do not have X11, so idk how if at all you can make a gui for a C code in an android platform Jul 21 03:41:25 Lars_G: maybe they should count synthetic biology as programming to keep the numbers up Jul 21 03:41:52 Lars_G: regarding kids' interest, ipad for them is like a desktop for us (the days we were young), so no supprise that programin is not the most interest :) Jul 21 03:41:56 Simran: If you NEED to use C, MAYBE you could make the gui in java (android java) and hook into your c code via the ndk, but idk enough ndk to tell for certain Jul 21 03:42:22 Utopiah: I think saddly biology did not progress quickly enough to gain a foothold onto an era before nanotech came to displace it Jul 21 03:42:37 Lars_G, all I need to do is run the binary and read it's output, and idk how to use NDK, I find it too complicated Jul 21 03:42:46 Oh Jul 21 03:42:51 Yes I'm coding the GUI in Java Jul 21 03:43:10 I'm just having the issue of reading the output of the binary Jul 21 03:43:14 hoangtran: Yes, but in general there is an apliance-ification process for computing tech, and in that ambiance it's less common to see younglins become interested in programming the stuff Jul 21 03:43:42 I've been coding since I was 12 Jul 21 03:43:44 Simran: if you did the code, check out the ndk, it might be better to call the C code as a library than as a cli you need to parse/screen-scrape Jul 21 03:44:15 Lars_G, I didn't code the binary, I do have the code, but I'm not that good with C that is Jul 21 03:44:25 hmmm ok Jul 21 03:46:07 Sweet, doing "complicated" stuff late at night is not the best of ideas... I was trying to shove the sd in the hdmi port Jul 21 03:46:09 sigh Jul 21 03:47:33 I've been trying to figure this out all day Jul 21 03:47:36 0_o Jul 21 03:47:46 I wonder if there are people doing on-device compiling, for on the road coding. Like there was in the palm days with onboard-c Jul 21 03:48:29 I know of people who compile with some toolchain on their android phones Jul 21 03:48:44 sl4a might be more efficient for testing stuff on the road, but i guess those scripts are harder to convert into a full android app for market Jul 21 03:50:10 AIDL is one of them Jul 21 03:50:37 Maziz: Of these persons? Jul 21 03:50:41 I'll ask him latter Jul 21 03:50:54 i mean tool Jul 21 03:50:55 lol Jul 21 03:50:58 Ah, thanks Jul 21 03:51:01 I shall google Jul 21 03:51:23 Sorry, I'm tired Jul 21 03:52:05 Can someone guide me on how to add android support v4 to Maven? Jul 21 03:55:49 Maziz: AIDE, not AIDL Jul 21 03:57:31 aidl sounds interesting as well Jul 21 04:02:21 AIDE is perfect, tyvm Jul 21 04:10:58 checksum: I'm also learning about maven and its usage in android project, so you have it working already? Jul 21 04:12:00 hoangtran: I installed maven-android-sdk-developer, but can't get the support library even though it's supposed to be included.... Jul 21 04:20:45 checksum: you mean maven-android-sdk-deployer? https://github.com/mosabua/maven-android-sdk-deployer/ Jul 21 04:21:01 hoangtran: yes Jul 21 04:23:20 yeah that Jul 21 04:23:22 sorry Jul 21 04:32:13 Has anyone here added android support library to their maven? Jul 21 04:32:34 How do you shut down an AVD via CLI? Jul 21 04:32:50 bonus points if you can do it purely through ddmlib Jul 21 04:32:52 Back on my tab Jul 21 04:33:34 Oh and i figured what the problem is Jul 21 04:34:16 Since the miner is running and doesn't exit unless i close it, i won't get an output until it's closed Jul 21 04:34:42 I have to see how terminal emulator works Jul 21 04:35:00 I might have to copy a few functions or just see how it's done Jul 21 04:41:29 Hey JakeWharton, I see you're a contributor on maven-android-sdk-developers. Do you have a minute? Jul 21 04:41:37 sure Jul 21 04:41:59 I think you mean fighting-a-losing-battle-by-using-a-real-build-system-developers Jul 21 04:42:20 lol. I'll query you. Jul 21 04:42:27 lol Jul 21 04:42:47 apparently build systems (and anything that does work for you) is frowned upon in the Android world Jul 21 04:43:00 we like manual arduous processes Jul 21 04:44:18 Is this from your experience with ABS and trying to promote Maven for ABS? Jul 21 04:44:34 JakeWharton: I usually cut wood with an axe before coding Jul 21 04:44:54 JakeWharton: what kinds of things do you mean by manual and arduous? Jul 21 04:45:05 dependency management (or lack thereof) Jul 21 04:45:07 ant Jul 21 04:45:23 both are horror shows in the Android world Jul 21 04:45:34 ..yeah :/ Jul 21 04:45:35 and both are problems that have been solved elegantly in the Java community many times over Jul 21 04:46:03 wot's a 'dependincy'? Jul 21 04:46:17 ..you should talk to some Googlers about this :) Jul 21 04:47:51 how imma make double dpad? Jul 21 04:47:51 I have. I'm not even the most vocal or the one who is doing the most lobbying on the behalf of a build system that's actually a build system. Jul 21 04:48:05 iphone i had to make 2 transparent views and add swipgesturehanndlers to each Jul 21 04:49:20 Maven is neither elegant nor solved. On the other hand, the current mess isn't better Jul 21 04:49:31 JakeWharton: may I pm? Jul 21 04:49:41 though I think Eclipse is partially responsible :) Jul 21 04:49:55 tmandry: if you'd like Jul 21 04:50:08 p_l|backup: Maven is more elegant than ant. At least you tell it *what* to build rather than *how* Jul 21 04:50:57 not to mention you can depend on pure-Java modules rather than having to have everything set up as a library project Jul 21 04:51:30 both suffer from abuse of XML... Maven doubly so with 2nd normal form everywhere, iirc Jul 21 04:51:35 I don't really care what I use as long as it's a build system and not a scripting language (especially one that's just bash bastardized into XML) Jul 21 04:51:56 I would again side with Maven since it's declarative about what over how Jul 21 04:52:18 FYI if anything changes ill be pissed off Jul 21 04:52:34 i'm sure Google will take you being upset into consideration Jul 21 04:53:20 AFAIK google takes into account "maven doesn't work with our build system, so there's little push even for external projects" Jul 21 04:54:11 so is a fling like a pan on iphone? Jul 21 04:54:37 Maven could work find with their ant scripts Jul 21 04:54:48 or, more specifically, the Maven central dependencies Jul 21 04:55:38 Xav and Tor have mentioned proper dependency management for quite some time (even at their talk at I/O) Jul 21 04:55:59 I don't care what they do but the fact that users have to juggle .jars around is unacceptible Jul 21 04:56:02 JakeWharton: the other way around Jul 21 04:56:35 ant is called, I think, from whatever they have internally Jul 21 04:57:13 well I know that a decent amount of their apps just compile against the internal AOSP tree using make Jul 21 04:58:35 I don't know. I'm 99% certain I can get a Maven build compiling with the same output structure as what ant does Jul 21 04:58:48 All of my projects are set up using the directory structure that ant/Eclipse uses and compile fine with ant Jul 21 04:59:05 I'm pretty sure it's as simple as changing the compile dir from target/ to bin/ Jul 21 04:59:42 even that's not solving the real problem, I don't care if they keep ant but they need to make Ivy a first-class citizen and deprecate the practice of including .jars in the libs/ folders Jul 21 05:02:51 JakeWharton: a beginner question, as I've just started learning maven for a few days: Do you have to create a acrchtype for this? Jul 21 05:03:19 I've never messed with archetypes. I usually just copy an existing pom.xml and modify it to fit my needs. Jul 21 05:04:16 ok, thx, reading maven doc made me think I need an archetype for this android specific project structure Jul 21 05:04:57 you can use an archetype to get a ready-to-go project set up Jul 21 05:05:46 Romainguy here? Jul 21 05:06:42 there're some of them, on github Jul 21 05:26:23 Simran: romainguy is never here. Sometime, however, romainguy_ is. Jul 21 05:29:46 my razr running ICS discharged from 100% to 5% over 14 hours. With probably 20 minutes of active use. Wtf Jul 21 05:30:02 and it just died Jul 21 05:30:04 play Angry Birds less Jul 21 05:30:20 i haven't touched the phone all day except for 20 minutes where I was using it to read engadget Jul 21 05:30:38 what shows as the highest consumer of battery in your settings? Jul 21 05:30:58 my app using the fluffy lib is taking 7% of battery over the 14 hours -- I"m going back and forth with the developer about this but it doesn't look like thats the issue just yet Jul 21 05:31:16 screen @ 38% -- but the phone has been sitting here idle most of the day 13+ hrs Jul 21 05:34:58 adb runs a server on my pc listening to a port, hmm Jul 21 05:35:12 It's been working so well so long I didn't even notice it Jul 21 05:35:49 QubeZ: maybe it was updating your apps, 3g in my phone take my battery Jul 21 05:36:10 i had one app update today google+ and my phone is on wifi only at home Jul 21 05:36:25 its a 4g phone yes but I have my verizon carrier tied to my iphone at the moment Jul 21 05:37:04 razr is simply a dev phone for now, so it sits around all day and I use it to test my app at times but today, 14 hr and it dischaged from 100% to 5% with only about 20 mins of use Jul 21 07:01:17 I'm having a derp moment. If I'm tiling a background, for ldpi do I scale it down or crop it smaller? Jul 21 07:01:42 *should I Jul 21 07:18:32 themirror, I generally scale down Jul 21 07:18:45 sup guys Jul 21 07:20:42 Ologn, thanks. Makes sense cuz otherwise it would look scaled up I presume. Jul 21 07:34:13 Hey, I am trying to connect to rmtp stream, but rtmpClient.connect(host, port, app, callback); never fires callback event. any suggestions? Jul 21 07:50:48 tornike: pastebin Jul 21 07:52:22 hey, is this the best # to talk in regarding the use of particular apps? Jul 21 07:52:51 Aspiegal: depends Jul 21 07:54:11 multicon doesn't seem to work properly on my galaxy note, that or i'm doingitwrong. I add the widget to a screen, then it says to tap on an icon to edit it, but that just results in me being able to move the widget around the screen/s Jul 21 07:54:32 Aspeigal: yeah not the right channel Jul 21 07:54:51 ta, recommend any? Jul 21 07:55:36 maybe #android Jul 21 07:55:59 nah, they referred me here Jul 21 07:56:06 oh well, will keep googling :) Jul 21 07:56:38 Aspiegal: #android is the right place, don't listen to StevenCodes22 Jul 21 07:57:06 lol ta :) Jul 21 07:57:16 prolly just asking my questions wrong Jul 21 07:57:45 Which design do you guys think looks better for the Google Play Feature Graphic? http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/382426_505715299444051_1516723559_n.jpg Jul 21 07:57:52 lol Leeds oh well Jul 21 07:59:41 anybody?? Jul 21 08:00:44 I'm leaning on design #3 Jul 21 08:03:21 #1 and #3 are nice. Jul 21 08:03:38 flameshadow: thanks for your vote! Jul 21 08:06:38 hmm, i'm trying to add the gnustl_static to the JNI part of my project.. Jul 21 08:06:50 Application.mk has APP_STL := gnustl_static Jul 21 08:06:58 but still the string header isn't found... Jul 21 08:10:17 argh, ok.. Application.mk has to be in jni/ too :D Jul 21 08:16:15 dlaroche #3 Jul 21 08:16:37 Knossos: thank you also for your vote it helps greatly!! Jul 21 08:16:44 What do I win? Jul 21 08:25:29 dlaroche: i like 2 the most. 1's font is unattractive and 3 feels stale tbh Jul 21 08:26:06 themirror: what about taking design #1's font and putting it on design #3 Jul 21 08:27:52 dlaroche: to clarify, what makes 1 bad are the fonts. the first looks like disney and the other is rough around the edges. the font in 3 is good. 3 is actually probably best, but when juxtaposed with 2 it looks less spectacular Jul 21 08:27:56 so i wouldn't Jul 21 08:28:19 ok Jul 21 08:28:20 thanks Jul 21 08:29:30 i would try rounding the edges or put the glossy panel effect in there, but not sure Jul 21 09:13:12 anyone know how emulators are created beyond the emulator binary? Jul 21 09:13:44 ddmlib allows interfacing with existing apps through java Jul 21 09:31:21 if anyone wants to use the Synthesis Toolkit in an android project: i integrated it into a toy project of mine.. Jul 21 09:31:28 sadly it's too damn slow to use for me ;D Jul 21 09:31:37 https://github.com/fps/android_camsynth/tree/master/jni Jul 21 09:31:46 anyways, if someone's interested.. Jul 21 09:31:53 tapas, im trying to make some shit now just bored got any ideas Jul 21 09:32:14 StevenCodes22: what's your interests? Jul 21 09:32:33 Well i'm working on IR, but really anything to do with home automation Jul 21 09:32:35 and gadgets Jul 21 09:33:10 Question: after creating a Toast and displaying it, if I cancel it, and replace the toast variable with a new toast (makeText), the second show() does nothing Jul 21 09:33:25 StevenCodes22: sorry, my brain is just filled with audio stuff atm ;D Jul 21 09:33:35 StevenCodes22: what was the last thing yuo worked on? Jul 21 09:34:06 lol tapas Working on an 3.5mm audio infrared emitter Jul 21 09:34:09 :p Jul 21 09:34:27 StevenCodes22: lolwut? :D Jul 21 09:34:34 3.5mm jack? Jul 21 09:34:40 or wavelength? ;D Jul 21 09:34:48 Yup lol uses sound files to control pulse Jul 21 09:34:50 though i'm not sure 3.5mm wavelength is IR Jul 21 09:34:56 XD Jul 21 09:35:35 so you can encode audio over IR? Jul 21 09:35:39 pulse modulation? Jul 21 09:35:48 Nah i use the audio jack to power the IR diode Jul 21 09:36:08 ah ok.. Jul 21 09:36:12 crazy :D Jul 21 09:36:30 i hope it doesn't toast the amp stage of the audio jack.. Jul 21 09:36:32 yeah not working too lol Jul 21 09:37:28 Nah not even enough power Jul 21 09:40:09 amazing how little cpu power my LG p500 has :D Jul 21 09:40:51 hi Jul 21 09:56:50 damn google, their emulator is still shit Jul 21 09:57:04 after so many years and promises it stil the same crap :( Jul 21 09:59:22 you're clearly not using GPU or the Intel images Jul 21 10:00:15 enlight me Jul 21 10:00:59 read the official documentation Jul 21 10:01:11 stop bitching before you do. Jul 21 10:06:00 Mavrik, it is still slow Jul 21 10:25:21 Does anyone know of a simple REST client library? Jul 21 10:26:01 Hmmm restlet has a client lib I think, not sure how useful it is on Android (or in general). Jul 21 10:26:07 I've only used it as a server. Jul 21 10:28:42 ive always just used a htp client Jul 21 10:29:05 I guess I was looking for something that could handle xml Jul 21 10:29:50 Normally I use a small wrapper I wrote around httpclient to get the data as string, then I use Jackson or Xstream to map to objects. Jul 21 10:30:09 I mostly use json, but for XML I would probably do it with Xstream. Jul 21 10:31:24 ahhh, I use json Jul 21 10:31:33 and gson Jul 21 10:31:45 can they handle xml? Jul 21 10:32:03 no, gson handles json Jul 21 10:32:11 Jackson has some support for XML nowadays, I think. Jul 21 10:32:13 its "kinda" like xml Jul 21 10:32:29 but its not what you want if you are returning xml Jul 21 10:32:36 yeah Jul 21 10:32:57 I use androuid to call .net wcf restful services Jul 21 11:18:07 anyone know how to invalidate the current views in a listadapter? basically i want to force getView to be re-executed for each visible item Jul 21 11:18:20 might be easiest to re-apply the dataset Jul 21 11:22:48 notifydatasetchanged Jul 21 11:41:09 I connected my android phone to usb port. And, I clicked Run on eclipse. I get: "Launching New_configuration". Path for project must have only one segment. Jul 21 11:41:19 USB debug mode is on on the phone Jul 21 11:41:51 phone runs 2.2. target is 4.1, minimum is 2.2 this is default project that eclipse creates. Jul 21 11:43:59 oh project name was missing Jul 21 11:44:22 but the phone's version isn't recognized. so i can't launch app on the phone Jul 21 11:45:46 ah http://developer.android.com/tools/device.html#setting-up Jul 21 12:00:17 I suddenly seem to have Eclipse Juno, are there any compat problems with the ADT? Jul 21 12:05:12 Hi all Jul 21 12:10:01 yay hello world app works on my phone Jul 21 12:19:16 how can I stop application? Jul 21 12:19:24 finish() Jul 21 12:19:29 press the back button :) Jul 21 12:19:47 i mean, from eclipse, I clicked Run.. and the app runs on the phone. can I disconnect my phone? Jul 21 12:20:16 there is no stop button in eclipse Jul 21 12:20:29 sure Jul 21 12:20:44 thanks. i wasn't sure if it'll break anything Jul 21 12:20:45 u can disconnect phone, no need worry about it Jul 21 12:28:06 SimonVT, re: notifyDatasetChanged does force getView to be called, but my calls to setTypeface are not being displayed in the ListView :/ Jul 21 12:28:24 not affecting the displayed ListView^ Jul 21 12:28:56 somewhere there is caching taking place Jul 21 12:29:37 Then you are probably doing something wrong when setting the typeface Jul 21 12:29:41 ill try ensuring my BaseAdapter is limited to 1 View incase that is the cause Jul 21 12:33:17 i have a utility class for applying typefaces with a boolean to toggle whether the cached font should be used or if it should be reloaded, and a similar boolean in my BaseAdapter to specify when the utility class should be called to apply a new typeface Jul 21 12:36:08 yep, seems ListView is using more than 1 view for the list items, so when I reset the boolean in my BaseAdapter, the subsequent calls to getView dont apply the new typeface and still have the old one in use Jul 21 12:36:40 sorry, i mean BaseAdapter is using more than 1 View for the list items Jul 21 12:37:56 Of course it is Jul 21 12:38:03 1 for each row, as well as any cached views Jul 21 12:38:17 aha, I thought it reused a single View for each teach Jul 21 12:38:19 sup guys,rob Jul 21 12:38:20 each type^ Jul 21 12:38:35 hi steve Jul 21 12:38:50 hows life Jul 21 12:40:04 acceptable, trying to correctly apply changes to this apps properties Jul 21 12:41:46 robb_www, Which app ? Jul 21 12:41:53 i will pm Jul 21 12:44:41 SimonVT, sorry that had really thrown me off, im used to the way Swing works, assumed it was a similar approach Jul 21 12:48:14 Swing is much nicer API wise than the Android UI APIs Jul 21 12:49:46 honestly, I miss the WYSIWYG form designer I used to use in Delphi, long time ago now though Jul 21 12:49:50 should I set up a new layout-tree which contains match_parents where `old layouts` use fill_parent? Jul 21 12:49:57 or is this unnecessary work Jul 21 12:50:54 It's unnecessary work to go through all your layouts just to change to match_parent Jul 21 12:51:04 If you happen to be working on a layout anyway, might as well change it then Jul 21 12:52:41 okay Jul 21 12:52:49 why did they rename/changed it anyway? Jul 21 12:53:25 People read the name and assumed it worked like weights Jul 21 12:53:35 Lots of wrong was happening Jul 21 12:54:37 whats some cool stuff for noobs I could make my android phone into a gadget Jul 21 12:57:52 i never found it confusing :o Jul 21 13:00:03 People assumed it FILLED the remaining space in the parent, instead of MATCHING its size ;p Jul 21 13:00:12 It's a fair mistake Jul 21 13:03:01 ^^ Jul 21 13:07:24 yeah that bit me several times as well :) Jul 21 13:08:28 hi, need some help Jul 21 13:08:34 i`am tray to connect my android (4.0.4) to hands free on sterio radio, Jul 21 13:08:40 http://www.milion.com/details.aspx?pro_id=1183&product_no=D2223B Jul 21 13:08:45 but don`t connect,the info says its for iphone phones Jul 21 13:08:48 is there any way to synchronize Jul 21 13:09:10 mdpt this chan is for app development.. try #android Jul 21 13:09:49 ok tks Jul 21 13:30:09 Why are some drawables restricted ("non-public")? To force developers to make manual copies for every single version? Jul 21 13:30:29 who has a nexus 7? Jul 21 13:31:25 <3 Nexus 7 <3 Nexus <3 Google Jul 21 13:31:27 What would cause a NullPointerException when instantiating InputStreamReader with a FileInputStream (where the FileInputStream is reading from my apps cache dir)? Jul 21 13:32:45 This is driving me crazy Jul 21 13:32:53 Is it even the correct way to be reading a cached file? Jul 21 14:05:07 i'm trying to compile https://github.com/AndlyticsProject/andlytics . Using IDEA i set its sdk version to 15 (4.0.3) but ABsherlock (which i've also set to 4.0.3) complains about not knowing about FragmentActivity. Anything I'm overlooking? I have no exp with abs Jul 21 14:05:59 You didn't add the support library to dependencies Jul 21 14:06:04 how should i implement double dpads? Jul 21 14:08:43 SimonVT right.. thanks Jul 21 14:08:55 well ill start w fling gestures Jul 21 14:09:10 on iphone after i did first version didnt work and needed to add split subviews Jul 21 14:10:13 the opengl opengles 2.0 cubemap texture also still fails on android (works on iphone, osx, windows) Jul 21 14:12:16 /join #ios Jul 21 14:13:52 i have both iphone4 and nexus7 plugged in, running both xcode and eclipse simultaneously :) Jul 21 14:13:56 Hi all! anyone know any statistics about users their screen sizes? Jul 21 14:14:02 hmm, is there any way to compile against non public classes in eclipse? Jul 21 14:14:10 im trying to compile the JB launcher Jul 21 14:14:38 Im having a hell of a time making my app suitable for all devices Jul 21 14:15:11 i do everything in shared c++ code except i have 1 objc file, and 1 java file that are the banes of my existence Jul 21 14:23:34 I got 9 buttons on screen. They all fit correctly in different screens, from 2.7 through to 4.7 screens.. From 5.1 to 10.1 all icons are too small, etc, so I need a new layoutfile for those Jul 21 14:23:50 hi guys Jul 21 14:24:10 so I made the layout-xlarge folder, but that only works on a 10.1 screen Jul 21 14:24:24 can someone help me here with setting up a volume seekbar? Jul 21 14:25:19 I know up from 3.2 there are newer ways to set different layouts, But, my question: How would I set a different layout for 5.1 to 7.1 screens of devices that Don't run 3.2? Jul 21 14:25:51 guess nobody is around Jul 21 14:27:08 ThomQ: -large Jul 21 14:27:13 Hello. Anybody know HTTP library that's robs (has retries function and all)? Jul 21 14:27:15 http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html Jul 21 14:27:19 What's the best way to do automatic upgrades of an app database based on the current date being greater than some date in the database? Jul 21 14:27:32 I'm already pulling an sqlite dump from a web service Jul 21 14:28:11 How do i implement a seekbar for Volume control? i tried a few methods but wont work my code till now: http://paste2.org/p/2079171 Jul 21 14:28:50 Bacta ur wanting to replace a whole local copy with an extrenal one? Jul 21 14:28:56 Yep Jul 21 14:29:10 do u have a db file, or just access to the db Jul 21 14:29:31 It's a TV listings app. If the tv listings are old the app needs to pull a new schema down from an external web service Jul 21 14:30:06 does the whole db need replacing Jul 21 14:30:10 Yep Jul 21 14:30:30 But I don't want to have to redeploy the app in order to bump the db version number Jul 21 14:30:59 layout-large? Jul 21 14:31:05 Thanks simon! Jul 21 14:32:07 Anyone here got a moment to have a look at my code for seekbar volume control ? http://paste2.org/p/2079171 Jul 21 14:34:26 can I force android:src to draw from a certain drawable map? Jul 21 14:41:57 ThomQ: if u dont have drawable for ur dpi it will get from normal drawable (mdpi) and scale it Jul 21 14:42:09 or from nodpi and not scale it Jul 21 14:42:21