**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 28 02:59:59 2012 Jul 28 03:01:23 is there a way I can progamatically set my account for play store? Jul 28 03:08:22 How much difference is there between OpenGL ES 1.0 and 2.0? Jul 28 03:09:45 My game project will presumably run in 1.0, but how hard is it to switch to 2.0 on future projects if I feel like I need to? Jul 28 03:09:59 Syzygy: rewrite Jul 28 03:10:11 different syntax? Jul 28 03:10:14 1.x and 2.0 are incompatible Jul 28 03:10:35 Syzygy: 1.x is based around classic OpenGL 1.x fixed pipeline Jul 28 03:11:00 ES 2.0 is based exclusively around programmable pipeline Jul 28 03:11:33 so to put a single triangle on screen filled with colour, you need a vertex and fragment shader Jul 28 03:12:24 And I don't need that on ES 1.0? Jul 28 03:13:47 Syzygy: The way you draw anything on screen is different Jul 28 03:14:03 Let me rephrase my initial question. For someone just learning how to develop for android, as well as just learning OpenGL (but as someone who wrote a basic 3D renderer before), would you recommend learning 1.0 or 2.0? Taking into consideration the number of devices that could run 1.0 Jul 28 03:15:13 The fact that I can't emulate 2.0 puts me off a bit, but I can test it on my phone. Jul 28 03:16:20 Syzygy: the decision, unforunately, depends on what exactly you want to make. Phones with 2.0 will run 1.x software Jul 28 03:17:01 however, if your game is graphic intensive enough that 1.x phones won't run it anyway, or are in minority? Go for 2.0 Jul 28 03:17:23 as for learning in general... if you were developing for desktop, I'd say go the shader route Jul 28 03:17:46 It won't be very graphics intensive, and hopefully not were taxing from a logic side as well. Jul 28 03:18:14 then you might as well go with 1.x for greatest portability Jul 28 03:19:25 that's my way of thinking. But for potential future projects that might require 2.0 (not porting older projects over) how hard is it to switch to 2.0? is the syntax much different? Jul 28 03:21:41 Syzygy: the syntax itself isn't. It's just that ES1.x is basically a simplified and a bit refined fixed-pipeline subset of OpenGL (aka *OLD* - pre GeForce 3 stuff), while ES2 contains only the "modern style", aka programmable shaders being used for everything Jul 28 03:22:44 Hmm, I guess shaders would be kind of funky for microtransaction style skins. Jul 28 03:23:10 Especially if they can include stuff that reacts to movement I guess. Jul 28 03:23:19 Thanks a lot, I'll go with 2.0 then. Jul 28 03:26:06 http://www.arcsynthesis.org/gltut/ <--- while this isn't exactly about GL *ES*, it talks about the same style done on modern OpenGL, and thus will get you easier conversion :) Jul 28 03:26:50 thanks. Jul 28 03:28:21 now I need to figure out how I can get a decent game loop going and how to load sprites, after that I have completed most of my basic "engine" and can focus on the game itself. I guess I should continue with the tutorials. Jul 28 03:29:19 with sprites, be wary of what texture compression you're using Jul 28 03:29:24 (if any at all) Jul 28 03:29:41 recommendations? I'm thinking png right now. Jul 28 03:30:14 well, texture compression is for textures that are decompressed by the GPU itself Jul 28 03:30:19 if it's supported Jul 28 03:30:23 oh. Jul 28 03:30:37 you can load uncompressed (that is, GPU gets pure bitmap) from anything Jul 28 03:30:44 PNG can be pretty good choice Jul 28 03:31:35 I guess I'll see if I run into any problems and will check back here as well as some other IRCs. Jul 28 03:31:56 I don't think it's a very good idea to consider the stuff I barely understand yet. Jul 28 03:32:06 At least not something like texture compression. Jul 28 03:32:39 well, the problem with compressed textures is that not all GPUs support the same formats Jul 28 03:33:02 Not even on android phones? Jul 28 03:33:23 It would make sense to standartize stuff like this. Jul 28 03:34:17 Syzygy: I don't know details, but I think ECT1 compression is supported by *most* if not all (well, not all - I have a ES2 GPU that has no compression support at all) Jul 28 03:34:48 I guess uncompressed is the way to go then. Jul 28 03:37:24 Are sprites and textures considered the same (talking strictly 2D right now)? Jul 28 03:46:43 well... I don't know how they classify "sprite" today, I learned that term back on 8bit atari, so no - texture would be the graphic you put on a sprite Jul 28 03:50:49 So in this case sprites would be the shapes, and textures the paint. Jul 28 03:51:09 I consider sprites more of an "all in one" kind of deal where it's both. Jul 28 03:52:25 Syzygy: sprite would be the whole object that you track for collisions etc. Jul 28 03:53:32 they would be drawn using triangles (manipulated by vertex shader, for example translating them into correct position) which would be filled with textures (using fragment shader) Jul 28 03:55:14 ok. Jul 28 03:55:52 well, i guess for now I can use stand in triangles for demos. Jul 28 03:56:15 but i need to figure out how to get drawn shapes into the game. Jul 28 03:56:36 probably a quick read if i search for it on google, but it's 6am, to tired. Jul 28 03:58:03 the link has it all :) Jul 28 03:59:13 just remember that textures can have transparency, and most of the time you need just two triangles to make a rectangle Jul 28 03:59:22 (for 2D) Jul 28 04:00:53 most of the time? I can't think of any case where that's not the case Jul 28 04:05:33 I guess using the impostor technique discussed in lighting would be the most performant. Jul 28 04:09:39 Rendering all sprites simply as trigs or boxes(2trigs), and simply discarding anything that's not covered by a texture during the fragment shader. Jul 28 04:20:02 exit Jul 28 05:00:09 A single one-star can really screw your sales :(. Jul 28 05:01:06 huh? Jul 28 05:01:07 counterbalance that by rating every app on the market 1 star. Jul 28 05:01:18 brilliant Jul 28 05:01:21 lol Jul 28 05:01:25 then the law of averages should save you Jul 28 05:02:37 "works for a few days, then stops" he wrote... my app doesn't keep any state though... so that's impossible. obv he didn't read the instructions. Jul 28 05:02:58 came right after a review that said, "I TESTED IT FOR 2 MONTHS AND IT IS ROCK SOLID *****" Jul 28 05:03:53 hehe, i couldn't care less what my users think of my stuff. Jul 28 05:04:17 i like when they buy it. Jul 28 05:04:29 my customers are not users. Jul 28 05:04:38 what are they? Jul 28 05:05:11 i sell exclusively to robots Jul 28 05:05:41 currently, I don't have a free version. not sure if I'm going to continue working on the app, but if I do.. kind of have to make one now. Jul 28 06:16:53 Hi, I'm trying to get into android development. I'm looking for an extremely simple sample game. Something that's so simple it's not even a game. I'm thinking something like just moving a square around the screen. Anyone know of something like that? Jul 28 06:35:47 the API demos has a Lunar Lander example Jul 28 06:36:49 hmm and no mars rover lander demo! Jul 28 06:45:39 RylandAlmanza, me and a friend are currently trying to learn android game making Jul 28 06:45:52 we're in #vidyadev Jul 28 07:56:46 hello Jul 28 07:58:22 do you have to use eclipse to write android apps? Jul 28 08:00:45 no Jul 28 08:01:11 you can use your fav editor + ant | maven, or intellij Jul 28 08:04:14 i understand via tha android openGL API that "OpenGL ES 2.0 is supported by most Android devices" - but besides the openGL software are there hardware requirements for android devices to be able to use openGL, what exactly are the requirements? Jul 28 08:06:06 i guess what im asking is what does openGL support rely on, sufficient cpu speed and tha availability of the software library? Jul 28 08:26:42 can i use a viewstub without the android:layout argument and then get it via findViewByID and use it for dynamic elements of my layout? Jul 28 08:27:03 or do i have to use another premade layout and load it? Jul 28 08:32:57 sonOfRa: yes you can Jul 28 08:33:03 see ViewStub.setLayoutResource() Jul 28 08:33:06 but if you're doing that Jul 28 08:33:11 you don't need ViewStub really Jul 28 08:34:07 how would i add something to a regular layout? All I see is overwriting the whole layout with another view. However I just got through the tutorial for that and im not too sure about that Jul 28 08:34:15 addView() Jul 28 08:35:17 Im writing an app that has a view that is displayed when you run the app. Is there a way that someone could modify the apk so that this view never loads? Jul 28 08:35:38 I'm trying to follow the OpenGL ES 2.0 tutorial, but I got kind of stuck because there's suddently a "vertexCount" variable in the code, but it's not defined anywhere else, I haven't found it on any of the previous pages. Jul 28 08:35:55 I tried substituting it for 3 (because I'm just trying to render a triangle) Jul 28 08:36:04 which probably works Jul 28 08:36:23 but my triangle doesn't render which might or might not have something to do with it. Jul 28 08:36:33 it's hard to say Jul 28 08:36:41 when something doesn't render with GL ES 2.0 there can be dozens of reasons Jul 28 08:36:54 So I'd do something like View view = (View) findViewByID(R.layout.main); view.addView(); Jul 28 08:36:55 writing OpenGL code often means staring for hours at blank screens :) Jul 28 08:37:05 sonOfRa: you have to cast to ViewGroup Jul 28 08:37:07 I believe I've followed the tutorial faithfully Jul 28 08:37:13 ViewGroup, thanks Jul 28 08:37:46 OpenGL is all about making tiny baby steps and testing the shit every time you make a change. I pity people who can't build a gradual path for getting from here to there Jul 28 08:37:55 yeah Jul 28 08:38:01 and OpenGL is also quite low level Jul 28 08:38:07 but that alone tells a lot about the quality of this graphics stack. I really don't know why it has to be so miserable Jul 28 08:38:08 the amount of code you need for Jul 28 08:38:14 the amount of code you need for "simple" things is quite astonishing Jul 28 08:38:35 http://developer.android.com/training/graphics/opengl/draw.html Jul 28 08:38:44 Im writing an app that has a view that is displayed when you run the app. Is there a way that someone could modify the apk so that this view never loads? Jul 28 08:38:55 I find it kind of strange that there's no vertexCount variable in the rest of the code. Jul 28 08:39:15 how do you download the source for ICS Jul 28 08:40:05 Syzygy: did you download the source? Jul 28 08:40:27 No, I typed it, feels like it goes into my head easier that way Jul 28 08:40:43 Syzygy: the tutorial only shows excerpts Jul 28 08:40:48 oh Jul 28 08:40:51 you need to follow with the full source Jul 28 08:40:54 it has the missing pieces Jul 28 08:41:05 how do you download the source code? Jul 28 08:41:35 Lil_ole_Me: source.android.com Jul 28 08:42:34 suddenly hundreds of lines of code D: Jul 28 08:42:54 and a lot of it is done for you by GLSurfaceView Jul 28 08:43:11 if you want to draw a single textured quad in OpenGL ES 2.0 Jul 28 08:43:15 and you don't use GLSurfaceView Jul 28 08:43:20 it requires ~450 lines of code Jul 28 08:43:32 like I said, it's quite a low-level API :) Jul 28 08:43:39 D: Jul 28 08:45:53 Wow Jul 28 08:47:07 what knda sucks about opengl is that you need to get a bunch of setup things exactly right or nothing happens Jul 28 08:47:15 and then you need to figure out what you did wrong Jul 28 08:47:18 yep Jul 28 08:47:29 like I said, you spend a lot of time staring at a blank screen :p Jul 28 08:47:38 (I did it again Tuesday night :) Jul 28 08:47:39 i still wonder how i got it working :0 Jul 28 08:48:03 I remember when I started working on the OpenGL backend for the Android UI toolkit Jul 28 08:48:20 it took me a week before I had enough infrastructure to start seeing simple things on screen ^^ Jul 28 08:50:58 last time I did this it worked right away T_T Jul 28 08:51:50 the implementation of the GLSL is horrible imho... the way you need to code the whole thing in a string :/ Jul 28 08:53:06 I noticed I wrote gl_position instead of gl_Position ... but since I changed that my background turned black (should be gray),... which is kind of strange considering the shader should only be applied to my one single triangle... Jul 28 08:53:07 at least that allows runtime manipulation of shaders in an easy way Jul 28 08:53:25 How can I specify my preferences activity to not be remembered. Like, I go to prefs activity, press home button, launch some other apps, play some games, ten launch my app again, and I end up in prefs activity. It's ok with normal activites, but I don;t want it at my prefs activity. Jul 28 08:53:26 I guess. Jul 28 08:54:43 Syzygy: yeah, strings are not greatā€¦ the GL renderer used by Android needs to be able to generate several millions of different shaders Jul 28 08:54:52 Syzygy: it's a lot of fun to write the code that generates the stringsā€¦ Jul 28 08:55:14 alankila: with the right tools yes Jul 28 08:55:24 D: Jul 28 08:55:31 it's getting worse and worse Jul 28 08:55:51 time to start sprinkling your code with glGetError() calls :) Jul 28 08:57:12 write the code that generates the strings? what are you talking about? Jul 28 08:57:18 use your editor and edit a .glsl file Jul 28 08:57:43 sam: re-read what I just said Jul 28 08:58:04 romainguy_: I read it very well thank you Jul 28 08:58:10 how can a shader applied to a triangle change the way the background is handled? Jul 28 08:58:23 romainguy_: use the preprocessor Jul 28 08:58:25 *rendered Jul 28 08:58:48 sam: an Ć¼ber-shader would be too messy to write Jul 28 08:59:05 über-shaders are best ahders Jul 28 08:59:08 *shaders Jul 28 08:59:08 of course not, it's what I do Jul 28 08:59:21 I'm talking about my particular use case Jul 28 09:00:08 then you shouldn't use your particular use case to talk Syzygy out of doing things properly Jul 28 09:00:19 but I'm not telling him to do that Jul 28 09:00:30 wait, I can use GLSL files? Jul 28 09:00:38 of course you can Jul 28 09:00:43 Syzygy: if you read them and load them in a string, yes Jul 28 09:00:53 GL won't open/read them for you Jul 28 09:01:25 alright, is there something to read up on that? because the tutorials seem to do it in the strings from the start Jul 28 09:03:20 Syzygy: any tutorial explaining how to read from a file will do Jul 28 09:03:36 (either an asset or a raw resource) Jul 28 09:04:58 Syzygy: http://blog.shayanjaved.com/2011/03/13/shaders-android/ appears to load shaders from files Jul 28 09:06:26 alright, thanks Jul 28 09:06:47 Syzygy: on what device are you testing btw? Jul 28 09:10:20 galaxy s 2 Jul 28 09:11:36 romainguy_: the next google phone better have a hardware slider keyboard Jul 28 09:12:01 pragma-: and if it doesn't? Jul 28 09:12:05 not buying! Jul 28 09:12:14 ah Jul 28 09:12:25 well that's the beauty of Android, you have choice :) Jul 28 09:12:38 google's flagship phones should showcase all the features of android Jul 28 09:12:50 a lack of a hardware keyboard is inexcusible! Jul 28 09:13:07 right... Jul 28 09:13:12 * pragma- nods. Jul 28 09:13:21 I've found hardware keyboards to small for my bearhands Jul 28 09:13:25 on phones Jul 28 09:13:30 at least last time i used them Jul 28 09:14:00 I believe I have eloquently stated my case and that the next phone will now have a hardware keyboard. Jul 28 09:14:06 * pragma- can now sleep peacefully. Jul 28 09:19:54 this song is weird :/ Jul 28 09:24:11 romainguy, so if i have my viewgroup set up now, how do i set the contentview? setContentView(group) is getting me an error, and I can't find a method to get a view from the viewGroup. Or do i simply have to cast back to View? Jul 28 09:24:31 a ViewGroup is a View Jul 28 09:24:34 and what error do you get? Jul 28 09:25:09 hang on, how can i copy the entire stacktrace from logcat? Jul 28 09:26:25 http://pastebin.com/iZLV0ysu Jul 28 09:27:10 you're adding a null View Jul 28 09:27:15 right now i was just trying to get the viewGroup and then set it Jul 28 09:28:27 ViewGroup group = (ViewGroup) findViewById(R.layout.activity_evaluation); Jul 28 09:28:28 setContentView(group); Jul 28 09:28:34 nothing in between yet. Jul 28 09:28:44 er Jul 28 09:28:47 you cannot do this Jul 28 09:28:51 simply doing setContentVie(R.layout.activity_evaluation) works. Jul 28 09:29:02 findViewById() lets you find a View in the UI tree Jul 28 09:29:10 but the UI tree is empty before you call setContentView Jul 28 09:29:27 just do setContentView(R.layout.activityā€¦) Jul 28 09:29:37 also findViewById() does use R.layout.* values Jul 28 09:29:40 but R.id.* values Jul 28 09:30:35 right. so i set the contentView first, and then create the viewGroup and modify the layout? Jul 28 09:30:56 no Jul 28 09:30:58 setContentView Jul 28 09:31:06 then findViewById the ViewGroup you want Jul 28 09:31:10 and then modify the layout Jul 28 09:31:43 alright, i'll try that, thanks Jul 28 10:43:00 what is the point of the toggleButton Text? It also defines onText and offText, but i can't seem to find a use for Text Jul 28 10:43:32 is that just inherited from button and not needed? Jul 28 10:44:38 it should show on-off text when you switch it Jul 28 10:44:44 yes Jul 28 10:44:46 i know that Jul 28 10:44:53 but what is Text Jul 28 10:44:56 there is onText when its on Jul 28 10:45:00 offText when its off Jul 28 10:45:04 and then there's Text Jul 28 10:45:16 aa.. well probably is inherited Jul 28 10:46:01 alright, thought so. Jul 28 10:46:38 yep in the official documentation settings for this button are only on/offText and dissabledAlpha Jul 28 10:46:52 everything else is inherited from Button probably or ToggleButton Jul 28 10:47:03 Compound Button sorry Jul 28 10:47:11 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/ToggleButton.html Jul 28 10:59:55 does actionbar (sherlock?) have a built-in progress indicator? I'm perusing the andlytics app and can't for the life of me find out where the progress indicator is defined Jul 28 11:06:01 xorgate http://thanksmister.com/2012/03/30/change-default-progress-actionbarsherlock/ Google? First record? Jul 28 11:06:55 shame on me Jul 28 11:07:01 thanks, F1rstAid ;0 Jul 28 11:09:19 :P Jul 28 12:18:58 How do I go about decompiling an apk on ubuntu? Jul 28 12:19:10 Hi guys, whats the recommended version to develop for? 4.1? Jul 28 12:19:30 Drager, probably the latest, depends on your target audience Jul 28 12:19:37 Drager: who's your target audience? Jul 28 12:19:54 and are we talking about "developing for" or "supporting" versions? Jul 28 12:20:29 Hm, I have no specific audience I guess. So the newest would be the best I think Jul 28 12:20:37 Drager, look at this pie chart http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html Jul 28 12:21:33 ~ 80% of android phone owners have < api 12/ honeycomb Jul 28 12:21:58 so if you use a minimumsdk / minimum support for 4.1 those people won't be able to use your app Jul 28 12:22:24 lasserix: Ye alright, so I should aim for the people who is the most populated ones Jul 28 12:22:28 however you can target 4.1 and require a mininum of 2.3.3 Jul 28 12:22:43 Just depends on what you are doing, Jul 28 12:22:48 Yea, that works Jul 28 12:23:14 In that case you'll probably want to pull the drawables from res/platform and the android designer icon pack Jul 28 12:23:29 so that users on <4.1 can still get the 4.1 feel Jul 28 12:23:46 Okey, sweet. Will google that Jul 28 12:23:56 Thanks for this information! Jul 28 12:23:58 Also there is something called Sherlock Action Bar which is popular way to add an action bar to pre honeycomb phones Jul 28 12:24:51 Well in my project I have Build SDK: 4.1 and Minimum Required one set to Android 2.2 Jul 28 12:25:17 Drager: *shameless self-promotion* https://www.virag.si/2012/06/must-have-libraries-in-modern-android-developer-toolbox/ Jul 28 12:25:20 this could be of use :) Jul 28 12:25:20 So my app will be supported on 2.2 and forwad Jul 28 12:25:34 Mavrik: Thanks Jul 28 12:25:52 but if I have that setting so it will work on 2.2 -> 4.1? Jul 28 12:25:56 Mavrik thanks! Jul 28 12:26:18 Drager: it will show up on Play Store for all people with 2.2+ Jul 28 12:26:30 Drager: if it will work will depend on which API calls you will use Jul 28 12:26:31 so still with the progress indicator, i defined a hdpi drawable which is a 72x72 png (white square). I tell ABS to use this resource. It comes out like this: http://i.imgur.com/mUEuH.png (the outer drawable is a slightly rotated square). Standard ABS uses 72x72 abs__spinner_48_outer_holo. Why is my bitmap being resized to 24x24 ? Jul 28 12:26:48 if you'll call functions not available on 2.2 (without checking first) the app will crash on 2.2 Jul 28 12:26:57 Mavrik: Okey, API16 Jul 28 12:27:11 that's why libraries like ActionBarSherlock, NineOldAndroids and Android Support Package are so useful: Jul 28 12:27:17 they make sure API calls from 4.x work on 2.2 Jul 28 12:27:37 Sounds wonderful Jul 28 12:29:15 xorgate if you are creating your square drawable in a graphics program, maybe it's not setting the correct resolution? Jul 28 12:29:32 Drager: when reading Android documentation you'll see at each function call from which Android API is it supported Jul 28 12:29:37 lasserix no i'm sure it's 72x72 Jul 28 12:29:53 not size, but resolution Jul 28 12:30:05 lasserix not sure what you mean Jul 28 12:30:07 as in the density may actually by lower than the HDPI requires, so it is shrinking Jul 28 12:30:07 Is it wise to scroll a large PNG image for a 2D game or should it be tiled? Jul 28 12:30:11 lasserix: android designer icon pack btw? Jul 28 12:30:25 Mavrik: Okey, thanks! Jul 28 12:30:26 what's that? :) Jul 28 12:30:39 Mavrick: http://developer.android.com/design/downloads/index.html Jul 28 12:31:04 ooooo. Jul 28 12:31:09 lasserix still not sure what you mean :) the png is 72x72 pixels. which afaik is all that matters Jul 28 12:31:42 the ppi of the png may not be HDPI Jul 28 12:31:51 even tho the size is 72x72 Jul 28 12:32:38 windows by default uses some ppi i can't remember, but i don't think its HDPI so when you are creating the image in the graphics program, you are actually using a lower density of pixels than necessary for HDPI hence it is shrinking Jul 28 12:33:39 I'm not sure--I've been figuring out this myself the other day--but it seems if you use one of google's HDPI drawables as the base image (ie just open it up) it'll preserve the density so maybe try that? Jul 28 12:34:01 *just open it up and erase everything and draw on the empty space Jul 28 12:34:43 how can i dynamicaly add buttons to fragment? http://pastebin.com/V2djPYrF (the actual progressbar and button manipulation will be done in asynctask later, when I get the list of profiles to create buttons) Jul 28 12:36:07 lasserix i think i got it.. my custom style extended @android:style/Widget.ProgressBar.Small (blindly copied from example), extending @android:style/Widget.ProgressBar fixes the issue Jul 28 12:36:43 ahh cool Jul 28 12:40:46 Hi guys Jul 28 12:41:13 anyone here using GIT by any chance? Jul 28 12:41:13 Anyone here had the gradient banding problem on ice cream sandwich ? Jul 28 12:41:38 whats your git problem ? Jul 28 12:41:47 everyone uses it prolly Jul 28 12:44:22 Its my first time using.. I cloned an SDK, but wasn't asked for a directory.. Where does it store the repository? Jul 28 12:45:10 depends on what program you used Jul 28 12:45:23 normally it asks for a directoy to clone it in Jul 28 12:45:31 i used the GIT CMD Jul 28 12:45:54 then prolly the current dir Jul 28 12:46:02 or check the argumets Jul 28 12:46:09 you should prolly provide a directory Jul 28 12:46:18 ThomQ: it created a subdirectory in directory where you ran the command Jul 28 12:47:31 Sorry it was GIT Bash.. Well it takes you to a CMD :P Jul 28 12:48:11 I did look in the GIT folder.. Jul 28 12:48:39 But can't find anything with "madvertise" (the SDK i cloned) Jul 28 12:49:12 and no *.jar for that matter Jul 28 12:49:48 afaik Git bash doesn't start in GIT folder Jul 28 12:51:08 ahh found it. It was my User folder.. I was looking for a .jar, but it's a folder Jul 28 12:51:11 thanks :) Jul 28 12:55:02 Ugh.. 1 last question :) So I found the folder, go to project properties -> android, where I should add the library, or at least a reference.. Only my list of library projects is empty? Jul 28 13:00:53 To add support for facebook putting or not to add support for facebook putting. Jul 28 13:12:21 lol, installing madvertise is about as easy as sneaking into the queen's palace.. Jul 28 13:13:51 So, the tutorial is telling me to "add a new project with sources from [PROJECT_ROOT]/madvertiseSDK/ to your workspace" I tried importing Excisting Android Code into Workspace, since that's the only import option that even let's me finish. But, upon importing, I get hhit with 13 errors about methods that need to override a superclass method.. Jul 28 13:14:12 have you tried the latter Jul 28 13:15:18 remove all @Override ? Jul 28 13:16:53 doing it now.. Im a n00b (ofcourse), but I keep running into these kind's of errors from tutorial code.. Has there been some recent update or something that changed it? Jul 28 13:18:29 Don't remove overrides.. Jul 28 13:18:40 Change compiler compliance to 1.6 in your project settings Jul 28 13:19:20 That's the min API right, not the Build Target? Jul 28 13:19:25 In this channel, could people get help with code? If it crashes for instance. Jul 28 13:19:54 That's neither of those Jul 28 13:19:59 It's "compiler compliance" Jul 28 13:20:28 :D thanks, googling now Jul 28 13:24:55 Simon: Thanks, the Madvertise-SDK is error free now.. It isn't showing up as a library reference for my main app though, should I change it's compiler compliance to 1.6 too? Jul 28 13:25:20 You should probably add it as a library reference Jul 28 13:26:59 Ahh, yes. Got it, thanks again Simon, you've been a great help this last week! Jul 28 13:27:18 reading up on java compliance levels Jul 28 13:33:34 hmmm, the reference to the library keeps breaking.. I remove the old one, add it again, it gets a green check, I apply and close.. all code regarding to the library errors, and when I check again, the library reference is broken again Jul 28 13:35:30 hey guys, how to connect my android to linux in debug mode? Jul 28 13:37:26 anyone? Jul 28 13:38:51 nope sorry, not a linux user Jul 28 13:40:05 Xtreme: plug it in with a usb cable Jul 28 13:40:15 lol, i did Jul 28 13:40:21 i am getting no permission msg. in adb Jul 28 13:40:30 what distro Jul 28 13:40:37 Debian Jul 28 13:40:47 might have to modify your udev rules, google it Jul 28 13:40:55 on my gentoo box it "just worked" Jul 28 13:41:21 what is the difference between gyroscope and accelerometer in android device? Jul 28 13:41:45 Xtreme: you need to find out what group you need to be in to be allowed to access usb devices Jul 28 13:42:02 adb fails to open /dev/ttyUSB* Jul 28 13:42:02 http://pastebin.com/JN4zYZ0x Jul 28 13:42:27 ls -l /dev/tty* Jul 28 13:44:22 it worked Jul 28 13:44:25 awesome :) Jul 28 13:45:22 If I want to use icons in my app, where should I put those icons? Jul 28 13:45:35 Xtreme: just in case, if you did chown or chgrp on something in /dev, that will be undone after the next reboot Jul 28 13:45:50 no, i started adb server as root Jul 28 13:45:57 that's bad Jul 28 13:46:09 find out what rights your user needs and give yourself those rights Jul 28 13:46:27 nah, this is better. i dont want my nephew to fuck it up :) Jul 28 13:46:46 don't give your nephew your account, make a new one for him ;) Jul 28 13:47:33 there is some problem with the eth0 interface, so he cant use net without turning it off :( Jul 28 13:47:41 anyways, got to go Jul 28 13:47:42 thanks Jul 28 13:49:53 lol, library reference kept breaking because I didn't import the SDK project into my workspace..? Jul 28 13:57:17 Drager res/drawable- Jul 28 13:57:51 wongk-home: Ye, I did put my icons there but they wont display Jul 28 13:58:15 where are they supposed to be displayed? Jul 28 13:58:22 In the menu Jul 28 13:59:08 wongk-home: This is how I do it: https://pastee.org/8qbvc Jul 28 13:59:19 and you refer to them like android:icon="@drawable/foo"? Jul 28 13:59:45 oh, why not use xml? Jul 28 13:59:46 in the ? Jul 28 13:59:54 Is that the better way to do it? Jul 28 13:59:55 xml? Jul 28 13:59:58 yes Jul 28 13:59:59 Not a fan of it rly Jul 28 14:00:00 hmm.. Any reason why a clean Hello World project in eclipse has errors just after creating? Jul 28 14:00:08 but okey wongk-home, will try that :) Jul 28 14:00:23 Parser Exception, and R. cant be resolved to variables.. Jul 28 14:00:47 ThomQ: because eclipse + ADT can be finicky Jul 28 14:01:06 sometimes the android resource compiler doesn't run Jul 28 14:01:10 wongk-home: Should I put the code in /layout/activity_myproject.xml= Jul 28 14:01:15 try cleaning the project Jul 28 14:01:30 Drager: menu/ Jul 28 14:01:42 and create a file called that? Jul 28 14:01:47 equex: Tried, get 40 or more parser errors.. Jul 28 14:01:50 yes Jul 28 14:01:55 okey, thanks! Jul 28 14:02:01 It does it with every new project Jul 28 14:02:04 ThomQ: what version of java is it using? Jul 28 14:02:41 uhmm 7.5 Jul 28 14:02:54 that's not a valid answer Jul 28 14:03:03 your choices are 1.5, 1.6, or 1.7 Jul 28 14:03:17 7.5 is a sub version of 1.7 Jul 28 14:03:19 ahh 1.5 Jul 28 14:03:28 probably java7u5 Jul 28 14:03:32 which is essentially 1.7 Jul 28 14:03:34 needs to be 1.6 Jul 28 14:04:19 you can use java 7 if you do not want to install java 6 in addition. however, you will have to stop using things like Strings in switches, or multiexception catching Jul 28 14:04:27 hmmm, new ADT Jul 28 14:04:46 wow 'compute launch buttot tooltip'has encountered a problem." Jul 28 14:05:01 you can use the java 7 jdk, but the compatibility level still needs to be set to 1.6 Jul 28 14:05:18 project is set to 1.6 compiler compliance, errors are still there Jul 28 14:05:36 you cleaned and then built? Jul 28 14:05:46 yes Jul 28 14:05:51 Trying a clean project now Jul 28 14:05:59 im not sure what to tell you Jul 28 14:06:51 lol Jul 28 14:07:11 I get that 'compute launch buttot tooltip'has encountered a problem." when cleaning Jul 28 14:07:33