**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 05 02:59:59 2012 Aug 05 03:11:06 JakeSays: have you tried turning it on and then off ? Aug 05 03:11:30 funktronic: off, or power down? Aug 05 03:12:12 i'll reboot it Aug 05 03:12:43 hopefully its not a cm9 issue Aug 05 03:13:21 funktronic: ah hah! restarting it seems to have helped Aug 05 03:13:56 that actually worked ? Aug 05 03:14:00 my god, i was just trolling Aug 05 03:14:04 i never meant to help anoyne Aug 05 03:14:16 funktronic: LOL yup. worked great D: Aug 05 03:27:27 i subclassed AlertDialog class like this: http://pastebin.com/d2a9ssN0 the last line is how i instantiated it but its force closing with this error "android.view.WindowManager$BadTokenException: Unable to add window -- token null is not for an application" what am I doing wrong ? Aug 05 03:40:16 is anyone here Aug 05 03:40:21 no Aug 05 03:41:32 I'm looking at the docs for the method public void setButton (int whichButton, CharSequence text, Message msg) for the alertDialog class at http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/AlertDialog.html I'm trying to understand how i define the message parameter Aug 05 03:41:36 can you help me Aug 05 03:41:54 devslash: I don't really have time to help right now, but you shouldn't need to subclass AlertDialog, have a read of http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/dialogs.html Aug 05 03:42:09 It's a string is it not Aug 05 03:42:15 your message Aug 05 03:42:28 the prompt ? Aug 05 03:42:31 What's the problem? Aug 05 03:42:45 Yes Aug 05 03:42:59 theres my code Aug 05 03:43:00 http://pastebin.com/UUPYgvXa Aug 05 03:43:10 I'm stuck at line 15 Aug 05 03:43:41 i want to add a Yes and No button and have an event called when you click on either button Aug 05 03:44:28 Why are extending the class?? Aug 05 03:44:34 devslash: you're calling show() from the constructor of a subclassed AlertDialog, that's all kinds of wrong, read that link if you want to avoid pain Aug 05 03:44:47 AlertDialog has everything u need Aug 05 03:44:49 i just want to prompt the user Aug 05 03:44:55 but it doesn't work in my code Aug 05 03:44:58 You're doing it wrong Aug 05 03:45:02 why Aug 05 03:45:22 Don't extend it Aug 05 03:45:25 just use it Aug 05 03:45:35 i tried and it didn't work Aug 05 03:45:39 evancharlton: ping? Aug 05 03:45:43 hang on Aug 05 03:46:23 doc_savage: he's way away and I hope he's not checking IRC Aug 05 03:46:59 ah, thanks JakeWharton, evancharlton.com is throwing a 503, I was just going to let him know Aug 05 03:47:58 oh, haha Aug 05 03:48:00 nice Aug 05 03:50:36 "Evan: Oh well" Aug 05 03:50:39 "Evan: I'll try and fix it tomorrow" Aug 05 03:51:00 and he said thanks Aug 05 03:51:35 JakeWharton: ah cool, np, I got what I needed from google's cache anyhow :) Aug 05 03:59:30 devslash: I don't know why I'm googling shit for you. http://m.helloandroid.com/tutorials/how-display-alertdialog-your-android-application Aug 05 04:02:50 themirror: thanks but i guess ill try it without sublclassic alertdialog Aug 05 04:02:56 now that there are more people here, i might ask again - written my first activity with a view, basically it just displays key/value pairs nicely - am i going about it the right way, how else would you do it differently? https://gist.github.com/2938e8e8ece8f7acfe23 Aug 05 04:04:04 themirror: the method setButton (CharSequence text, Message msg) is actually deprecated Aug 05 04:04:24 Yeah use setpositivebutton Aug 05 04:04:55 Id paste my code but only have internet on my phone atm. Aug 05 04:05:20 Hold on ill get the better link Aug 05 04:05:38 I'm not sure where setpositivebutton is defined. maybe the Dialog class Aug 05 04:05:41 does anyone have experience with bluetooth and vibrating headsets? Aug 05 04:05:50 but its not defined in the AlertDialog class Aug 05 04:11:39 devslash I think I used this. 5th link on Google. I'm not helping for easily accessible stuff anymore. http://www.androidsnippets.com/prompt-user-input-with-an-alertdialog Aug 05 04:11:54 w/e Aug 05 04:12:48 If you need the text do add .toString() at the end Aug 05 04:15:19 if you don't want to help then don't Aug 05 04:27:01 Strange request. Only have internet on my phone. My phone browser won't download this file. can someone send this to peerintothemirror@gmail.com Aug 05 04:27:09 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xv/xvidcap/xvidcap.tar.gz Aug 05 04:28:51 sent Aug 05 04:29:13 Thx Aug 05 04:29:50 n[ Aug 05 04:29:51 np Aug 05 04:30:43 themirror: the reason i wanted to subclass alert dialog is because i had the yes no button events set a variable so my activity class knows what was clicked Aug 05 04:31:23 Yes but that can be done in the onclicklistener Aug 05 04:31:42 no Aug 05 04:31:47 it doesn't work properly Aug 05 04:31:50 in onClick, set a field value Aug 05 04:31:56 let me explain Aug 05 04:31:59 k Aug 05 04:32:22 my activity extends PreferenceActivity Aug 05 04:33:32 i have a Close button to exit the activity but it does error checking first. if a string isn't how its supposed to be, it prompts the user with a message "hey thats not right. do you want to save it anyways ?" and which point they click yes or no Aug 05 04:34:41 Right. So if its the case in which the string is wrong, generate the alert Aug 05 04:34:42 heres my code Aug 05 04:34:43 http://pastebin.com/i1qaB99p Aug 05 04:34:59 look at line 42 Aug 05 04:35:05 if yes, put saveData() in onclick for yes Aug 05 04:35:12 i don't need to save it Aug 05 04:35:27 if the user clicks yes, i want to close the activity. Aug 05 04:35:52 if the user clicks no, i want to return false for boolean onPreferenceClick so the activity does not exist Aug 05 04:36:02 but i can't do that within the onclicklistener Aug 05 04:36:18 Sure you can Aug 05 04:36:25 how Aug 05 04:37:12 the onClick event is void Aug 05 04:37:18 MyActivity.this.finish(); Aug 05 04:37:34 yes thats fine if the user clicks on yes Aug 05 04:37:57 ahh nm Aug 05 04:37:57 You don't need to return false Aug 05 04:37:59 just realized Aug 05 04:38:14 if i don't call finish the activity remains open which is what i want Aug 05 04:38:16 either set a field or call another method yeh Aug 05 04:40:11 hello Aug 05 04:40:43 can i use the savedInstance param passed into the onCreate method of an activity to pass objects to new activities Aug 05 04:42:59 if someone could please help... Aug 05 04:43:02 hamo__: no, you add extras to the Intent you use to start the activity, you can then get them in the new activity with getIntent().getExtras() Aug 05 04:43:18 doc_savage: thank you for the prompt reply Aug 05 04:43:23 :) Aug 05 04:43:40 doc_savage: I intended on using that as a backup alothough now I have to change all my dtos to implement Serializable Aug 05 04:43:48 which is fine :) Aug 05 06:26:47 is it possible to browse the aosp source online? Aug 05 06:34:01 hi Aug 05 06:34:18 Just testing if my messages can now be sent. Aug 05 06:34:43 who said that? Aug 05 06:35:17 Leeds, are you talking to me? Aug 05 06:35:54 maybe... Aug 05 06:36:23 Cool, alright looks like I have this IRC thing all settup. Sorry, I'm new to the irc concept. Aug 05 06:36:34 welcome... Aug 05 06:36:41 Would you happen to know why I cannot make a connection to "#android"? Aug 05 06:37:13 should be able to Aug 05 06:38:23 Hmm... I am able to do it now. Aug 05 06:38:34 Maybe I had to register with #android-dev first? Aug 05 06:39:02 no, you have to register with services and login Aug 05 06:39:42 Hmm... I only registered with android-dev and now I can chat in #android Aug 05 06:40:02 you don't register with a channel Aug 05 06:41:14 Oh. Then I'm not sure what I did. heh. Aug 05 06:41:17 so anybody know of a way to send commands to a bluetooth headset? i want to make the headset "ring" Aug 05 06:43:25 There is a Android Bluetooth Chat App sample application Aug 05 06:44:05 yeah but that doesnt do anything with headsets Aug 05 06:44:48 Then... no. I don't. Haha Sorry Aug 05 06:46:13 Anyone here good with fragments? I'm trying to remove a fragment but I get no eclipse or runtime errors but it doesn't remove. Posted the question on stackoverflow, but no hits... http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11813862/remove-a-fragment-from-inside-a-fragment-activity Aug 05 07:37:44 Hi :) is it possible to open a persistent https connection with a server ? Aug 05 07:38:03 i'm having terrible issues with the handshake process, it takes 6-9 seconds for each post Aug 05 07:38:26 another solution could be to find a way to shorten the handshake without compermising the security... is that possible ? Aug 05 07:39:35 any ideas ? :) Aug 05 07:58:37 Hi all, new to Android dev, will I cause problems with the GC if I have a object's event listener be the object that owns it? Aug 05 08:00:44 GC? Aug 05 08:01:19 EGamerHDK: garbage collector Aug 05 08:14:58 PerishableDave You mean if your object event listener is it self? Or what you mean? Aug 05 08:17:00 ArGGu^^, Well I have a view that has a gesture detector, I was thinking of settings the gesture detectors listener to the view. Aug 05 08:18:11 I don't think you would want to do that regardless of whether it works or not. It makes no sense to have an event listener with an event listener... Aug 05 08:19:38 An event listener waits for an event to be called, then does something Aug 05 08:26:14 PerishableDave well I don't see problem with GC, why you think it would cause problems? Aug 05 08:28:58 well if the view owns the gesture detector and the gesture detectors listener is set to the view, thought there might be a cyclic ownership Aug 05 08:29:13 I'm not too familiar with how Java's garbage collection works Aug 05 08:29:33 themirror why say event listener with event listener? only listener the view would implement is gesture listener. Aug 05 08:31:25 His question as worded makes zero sense Aug 05 08:31:26 PerishableDave GC deletes object when there is no reference anymore. Aug 05 08:31:38 Right, but wouldn't they reference each other? Aug 05 08:32:46 hmm that true I did not think that Aug 05 08:32:49 but there's no reference to them from the 'roots' Aug 05 08:32:51 The listener can reference the object that instantiated it, sure no problems Aug 05 08:33:13 yuizy: ah ok Aug 05 08:33:45 Thanks for the help, I'm off to sleep, night Aug 05 08:33:55 gc will recognize those are isolated nodes Aug 05 08:33:56 afaik Aug 05 08:33:58 oh, gn Aug 05 08:34:05 Anyone good with fragments on here? Aug 05 08:34:09 LOL that discussion made zero sense! Aug 05 08:34:53 And yuizy's answers were wrong and assumptive Aug 05 08:34:58 whatever idc Aug 05 08:35:09 oh, ok Aug 05 08:36:15 I have a fragment activity that tries to remove a fragment and perform a toast. I get no errors, I get a toast, but the fragment doesn't remove. Aug 05 08:36:57 If anyone has any desire to take a look or upvote. I'd appreciate it... http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11813862/remove-a-fragment-from-inside-a-fragment-activity Aug 05 08:37:23 I see a lot of posts about fragments from a lot of people lately. Why do you need a fragment over a View? Aug 05 08:38:15 Ontouch, set the other view to invisible or gone Aug 05 08:38:23 hi Aug 05 08:38:28 i am from india Aug 05 08:38:40 made paid google play ac Aug 05 08:38:55 i dont see india in google checkout Aug 05 08:39:12 anybody from india able to sell applications Aug 05 08:39:23 themirror: how were yuizy's answer wrong? Aug 05 08:39:43 themirror, need it to work just like that. But the code works in a mainactivity. but not in a fragment activity. and with no errors, I don't understand why. lol Aug 05 08:39:58 GC used in android (both old and new one) are proper GCs and can detect cycles and collect them Aug 05 08:40:29 yeah Aug 05 08:41:00 i want to sell application using gc,india is not listed Aug 05 08:41:07 so if a cycle isn't referenced by at least one object connected to GC roots, the cycle is considered garbage Aug 05 08:41:15 Well that tidbit is fine, but in the context of the question originally asked it didn't address the design flaw Aug 05 08:41:30 wp-developer: I don't know if India is available at all for purchasing apps from Play Aug 05 08:41:42 i am able to purchase Aug 05 08:41:52 i want to develop and sell Aug 05 08:41:59 well the context of question for me was "i'm not too familiar with how java's garbage collection works" Aug 05 08:41:59 i see lot of indians selling Aug 05 08:42:18 wp-developer: and you can't find an option to register for paid app selling? Aug 05 08:42:32 so i deemed it reasonable to explain that GC will deal with cyclic references correctly Aug 05 08:42:42 wp-developer: or were you looking for region control? Aug 05 08:43:10 yuizy: it takes a pretty shitty GC to not deal with them coughperlcough Aug 05 08:43:48 :D Aug 05 08:43:50 p_l|bus i i am trying to create google merchant account in google play Aug 05 08:44:20 anybody from india is able to sell applications on google play? Aug 05 08:46:38 I don't see a valid case in which an event listener would have an event listener Aug 05 08:46:52 though I need to one day sit down and read through GC_CONCURRENT in DVM Aug 05 08:47:45 themirror: yes, but the question was about GC behaviour in case of two object cycle, although with not necessarily best example Aug 05 08:48:04 hmm... okay, the question wasn't worded best ;) Aug 05 08:48:58 Okay well true, but I suppose its a matter of taste. I was trying to get at the bigger problem of making a program make sense :) Aug 05 08:49:10 is it common to see this in logcat ? 08-05 01:48:32.690: D/dalvikvm(19115): GC_CONCURRENT freed 490K, 19% free 4186K/5123K, paused 12ms+9ms, total 44ms Aug 05 08:49:39 the conetext was "gc deletes object when there is no reference anymore." => "but wouldn't they rreference each other?" Aug 05 08:49:58 nothing assumptive in my answer :) Aug 05 08:52:06 It doesn't matter anymore. I didn't mean you were wrong per say, but I perceived his question to be grounded on faulty premises about what an event listener is, so rather my opinion was that your answer wasn't the point. I was frustrated that he left without addressing the bigger issue Aug 05 08:53:49 *per se? (sp) Aug 05 08:55:01 ah Aug 05 08:55:08 no worries, he will come back soon Aug 05 08:55:41 apologies I scapegoated you :X Aug 05 08:58:38 anybody from india is able to sell applications on google play? Aug 05 08:58:47 devslash yes it is common. It just means you are de-referencing somewhere Aug 05 08:58:57 ok Aug 05 08:59:00 read up on garbage collector Aug 05 09:01:27 Hey wp-developer, from a quick Google search, doesn't look like it atm, but cant say for sure. Aug 05 09:02:25 themirror i am looking for someone who is from india and sell app using google play Aug 05 09:03:05 Right so it seems India ip's cannot publish paid apps at this time Aug 05 09:03:24 its not ip issue Aug 05 09:06:14 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+publish+from+india Aug 05 09:12:50 themirror, quite convincing argument you have there with that last link... Aug 05 09:13:22 Hi, trying to build ADB and I'm getting commandline.c:(.text+0xac4): undefined reference to `load_file' Aug 05 09:43:27 for the (delayed) record, India is not on the list of countries from which you can sell apps: https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=150324&topic=15867&ctx=topic Aug 05 09:51:39 they dont even have electricity there :P Aug 05 09:52:03 g00s: did you see the Onion story about that? Aug 05 09:52:16 hehe, no Aug 05 09:53:20 pretty much said "after a heroic effort by staff, all services have returned to normal, vast swathes of the the country without power or running water" Aug 05 09:53:31 haha Aug 05 09:53:57 their problems related to managing their hydroelectric infrastructure are related to incompetence and corruption Aug 05 09:55:51 of course, we have plenty of that here too :P Aug 05 09:55:58 humans are doomed Aug 05 09:55:59 indeed Aug 05 09:58:30 nope, although man will eventually consume space in the known universe, he will probably find a way to create a new one Aug 05 09:58:51 I have created a custom class that extends ArrayAdapter. What is the preferred way of rebuilding the ArrayAdapter if one of its items changes? (i.e. new sort order, state of item X changes etc.) Can anyone refer me to some literature I can read? Aug 05 09:59:15 there is no foreseeable ending to intelligent life Aug 05 09:59:28 we're not intelligent though Aug 05 10:00:22 the mere fact that you are aware that you are not intelligent shows that you are Aug 05 10:00:37 and we probably won't leave our planet before the earth is destroyed, or our solar system before the sun explodes :) Aug 05 10:00:45 a rock is not aware that it has no thought Aug 05 10:02:33 aaah, probability.. probably in this universe, but in some alternate universe, that would not be the case Aug 05 10:05:21 Okay what's the point of alternate universes other than a what if scenario Aug 05 10:05:35 these universes don't exist Aug 05 10:07:22 what if alternate universes didn't exist? Aug 05 10:07:33 there is a logical bomb for you :-) Aug 05 10:07:43 but it does Aug 05 10:09:41 An alternate universe in which alternative universes don't exist? Ahh Aug 05 10:10:55 well, it depends on whether copenhagen or many-worlds is correct, and those are the simpler ones, iirc Aug 05 10:11:06 anyone speaking Czech here? Aug 05 10:17:39 i think this is profound: Aug 05 10:17:42 " It’s almost uncomfortable the first time you see Photosynth as a UI designer because it seems that there is no interface—the interface is just the content. But when you push yourself to approach UI in this manner, you focus on designing the interaction instead of the interface. It’s a subtle yet very important difference that I think will distinguish interfaces from the last 10 years to the interfaces of Aug 05 10:17:42 the next decade. " Aug 05 10:37:33 I'm using Eclipse 3.7 with android - is it safe to upgrade to Eclipse 4? Aug 05 10:37:45 3.8 is probably best Aug 05 10:38:27 Best eclipse version or best compatibility with android? Aug 05 10:38:54 best with android Aug 05 10:39:59 3.8? All I see is Eclipse Juno (4.2) Eclipse Indigo (3.7) Aug 05 10:41:11 http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/eclipse3x.html Aug 05 10:41:36 http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.8-201206081200/ Aug 05 10:42:03 i get 'platform runtime binary' and then later add JDT & ADT Aug 05 10:43:11 ok thanks. Are there instuctions for adding JDT somewhere? Aug 05 10:47:39 g00s: Why isn't 3.8 listed on the main page and what problems did you have with 4.x? Aug 05 10:50:29 how can I check if my code is being run in the Graphical Layout tool in eclipse? currently, it fails due to my activity not being launched before the layout is created. Aug 05 10:56:20 hi everyone Aug 05 10:56:24 I noticed that if I have a line of text in a button, the size and position of the button looks good; but, if I add a two line text to the button, the position of the button moves Aug 05 10:56:26 hi everyone Aug 05 10:56:31 is there a way around this issue? ^ Aug 05 11:14:27 lou_: could you post an xml? Aug 05 11:22:15 fucking XML says I can't have integer values in tags like "android:paddingLeft="30dip" Aug 05 11:22:21 what else am I going to have there! Aug 05 11:24:44 anybody used admob Aug 05 11:25:25 is this correct for admob Aug 05 11:28:52 Hi, what would be the best way to run a background operation of sending a pulse to the server ? Aug 05 11:28:53 what is wrong with this manifest ? http://pastebin.com/jCcKS5k9 Aug 05 11:29:09 i cannot figure it out but now my app has a lot of error Aug 05 11:30:03 ntcase: can you help me out Aug 05 11:30:23 devslash, i'm looking at it :) Aug 05 11:30:27 ok thanks Aug 05 11:34:14 heh Aug 05 11:34:33 did you see anything Aug 05 11:34:42 http://pastebin.com/8cJDPbUH Aug 05 11:34:50 one slash too many :) Aug 05 11:34:59 at least i think it will work now :) Aug 05 11:35:00 devslash: #1 is closed using />, but I think > should be used in this case since it has subtags Aug 05 11:35:09 yeha well if two people are saying the same... Aug 05 11:35:12 probably this is it :P Aug 05 11:35:41 the errors are still there after saving and doing clean build Aug 05 11:35:52 you sure you removed that slash ? Aug 05 11:36:04 i copied and pasted that paste bin into my manifest Aug 05 11:36:34 where does it say the error is ? Aug 05 11:36:39 you sure you copied the right one ? Aug 05 11:36:46 Description Resource Path Location Type Aug 05 11:36:46 error: Error parsing XML: not well-formed (invalid token) strings.xml /MyMusicServer-Android/res/values line 1 Android AAPT Problem Aug 05 11:36:49 make sure android:theme="@android:style/Theme.NoTitleBar"> Aug 05 11:36:53 is not android:theme="@android:style/Theme.NoTitleBar" /> Aug 05 11:37:06 well... then the problem now is in a different place Aug 05 11:37:07 yea Aug 05 11:37:12 as it sais Aug 05 11:37:23 the issue is with the strings.xml now Aug 05 11:37:57 ok Aug 05 11:37:59 fixed it now Aug 05 11:38:24 thanks Aug 05 11:38:32 :) Aug 05 11:44:38 eclipse keeps adding xmlns:app="http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/com.joel.cards" to my layout root elements. I dislike this behaviour -> how do I disable it? Aug 05 11:45:13 'com.joel.cards' is the package name of the project Aug 05 11:49:01 hi Aug 05 11:49:22 kmap2, hi Aug 05 11:51:16 my R won't build, this is my XML http://pastebin.com/Vg07cn9X Aug 05 11:51:17 any idea? Aug 05 11:51:50 I don't see anything wrong there..everything is in dp and...the image names are fine.. Aug 05 11:51:59 i get error in admob says "you must have adactivity declared" Aug 05 11:53:14 what error do you get Sicp? Aug 05 11:53:32 I don't get a specific error and there are no red markers, R just won't get built Aug 05 11:54:46 any idea? Aug 05 11:55:10 android developer console wont let me remove a draft apk, :( Aug 05 11:55:22 Sicp: my eclipse doesn't give me any error either. what other xml resources do you have? Aug 05 11:55:46 I have the main layout which has always been working, it's just with the addition of this file that it fucked up Aug 05 11:56:54 ive now tried in firefox and IE, not going to install chrome Aug 05 11:57:16 meh, guess i have to publish a broken apk to market and then replace it immediately Aug 05 11:57:35 Sicp: see if the error persists when removing the resource (you have a copy online so there should be no data loss) Aug 05 11:58:35 Sicp: or you could zip the whole project and upload it, and I'll give it a try Aug 05 11:59:51 Sicp: isp failure? Aug 05 11:59:57 country failure Aug 05 12:00:05 it went away joel135, but where do I start looking? Aug 05 12:00:23 I think it's a gravity issue Aug 05 12:00:30 or those fucking dp things Aug 05 12:04:37 Sicp: those seem to be good enough to build. i think the error lies somewhere else Aug 05 12:05:02 it works now since I removed and put it back in Aug 05 12:05:07 god, eclipse is such shit Aug 05 12:07:01 any good tutorials to get me started fast Aug 05 12:07:19 Sicp: I know, eclipse is horrible. If the issue was solved by just tmp removal, maybe cleaning the project (Eclipse -> Project -> Clean...) would have helped too Aug 05 12:07:29 I did taht a lot too Aug 05 12:08:09 onats: what experience, if any, with programming do you have? Aug 05 12:08:38 joel135: I know java, i do grails dev, Aug 05 12:08:59 a little bit rusty on java coz i somewhat got spoiled on groovy Aug 05 12:09:08 i'm thinking of writing an app that would say play a sound on my phone, when someone else presses a button on theirs. But i want to select who gets to 'trigger' me. How can i go about doing this? google accounts something? Aug 05 12:10:02 onats: I find Lars Vogel's Android tutorials to be great for beginners: http://www.vogella.com/android.html Aug 05 12:11:18 onats: as you already know java, just code something and learn by that. otherwise, I agree with v3gard Aug 05 12:12:00 joel135: I want to understand the right way to structure stuff in android Aug 05 12:12:24 xorgate: you definately need something server side to keep track of your users. also you need to implement support for C2DM Aug 05 12:12:46 xorgate: you might want to check out http://www.vogella.com/articles/AndroidCloudToDeviceMessaging/article.html Aug 05 12:14:26 v3gard yeh, my concern now is how to implement 'finding' eachother. and granting those permissiosn Aug 05 12:14:55 onats: you get that from the documentation, source code etc when programming anything. eclipse helps you with the very basic structure Aug 05 12:15:24 joel135: i intend to use intellij.. that ok? Aug 05 12:15:34 v3gard: C2DM? Aug 05 12:15:39 i can write server side using grails Aug 05 12:16:06 intellij even better Aug 05 12:16:13 onats: cloud to device messaging framework Aug 05 12:16:51 agh that i have lots to learn Aug 05 12:17:01 onats: eclipse isn't that good after all. I bet intellij (never used it) is better Aug 05 12:18:37 joel135: i believe its free for android dev Aug 05 12:18:51 xorgate: well, you need a client applications on both phones. the phone with the play sound button on it has to send a message to your server. there, the server checks with phones that are associated with your phone (unless you want to handle that client side), and the server uses C2DM to push a notification to the other phone which in turn will play the sound Aug 05 12:19:19 ouch, lots of spelling errors there :p Aug 05 12:20:01 one question guys, i read a post somewhere that in order for me to have a good app, i have to test it in multiple machines? there was an HK development company who had around 600 android devices Aug 05 12:20:03 v3gard yes, i get that. specifically i'm thinking about how to manage the user accounts, how will my friend be able to 'add' me etc Aug 05 12:22:38 xorgate: keep a sql database on your server with a table that relates one user to another. add a method on your server called relate(user_a, user_b) that relates user a to user b. then, on your phone, use httplib or something to send a query to the server (using json for instance) that executes the relate method Aug 05 12:22:43 onats: for a small app, you're fine using the emulator. for a large app, you get beta testers easily Aug 05 12:24:40 hi i get this error inside ad box of admob "you must have ad activity declared in androidmanifest.xml with configchanges" Aug 05 12:26:45 if the RelativeLayout calls invalidate(), which views will have their onDraw() called? http://goo.gl/ZaC0H [Image] Aug 05 12:29:19 v3gard right, but users would need to 'sign up'. i'm hoping to keep this process as simple as possible Aug 05 12:31:32 xorgate: well, you could simply create a NewUser activity that runs a query to your server adding the new user.. that will assign a username to all your users which you can use for the relate method. don't know if you can make it any simpler than that Aug 05 12:32:38 hi i get this error inside ad box of admob "you must have ad activity declared in androidmanifest.xml with configchanges" Aug 05 12:33:16 kmap your admob activity apparently needs that permission.. google configchanges Aug 05 12:33:29 the admob thing wants to know when you rotate your phone Aug 05 12:35:01 Hey guys, I want to have a listview with radiobutton (singleChoice). I have a costum adapter+xml with image and checkedListView Aug 05 12:35:42 How do I keep only 1 checkedListView checked? where do I store the state? Aug 05 12:36:33 omar in your adapter. you detect when user clicks, then disable all others Aug 05 12:36:40 (and refresh) Aug 05 12:38:00 how to disable all the others? Aug 05 12:38:13 your adapter deals with the data you want to show, so that's the place to store which is selected Aug 05 12:38:40 set the current one to false, loop over all visible rows, if that's the current one, set checked to false Aug 05 12:44:04 xorgate: I've done what u said and I have only 1 problem. If I check a row and then scroll, other rows are shown as checked as well! Aug 05 12:44:58 Here is getView(): http://pastebin.com/xrEdGphr Aug 05 12:48:41 xortage what do i need to do Aug 05 12:50:05 kmap, did yuo google 'android configchanges' ? Aug 05 12:50:40 Omar, your listview rows get recycled, so if a row is checked, it stays checked, unless you tell it otherwise Aug 05 12:51:04 omar: first order of business: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDBM6wVEO70 Aug 05 12:54:00 xorgate: The problem is not that the row I checked stays checked (thats what I want), but it is that other rows are checked as well Aug 05 12:55:31 they get checked when you press? or at the start Aug 05 12:56:56 i think the way to go is: the items in your adapter have a boolean, in your getview you figure out if this row is checked or not and set the checkbox. Then you have a clickhandler (on the listview, not on the item) that determines where the click is. Then update all relevant data items, and update the listview so it shows the correct checked/unchecked Aug 05 13:01:49 I did everything u wrote except for this part: "Then you have a clickhandler (on the listview, not on the item)" .. so the click handler shouldnt be in the adapter class? Aug 05 13:03:30 what is a way to tell to the system that there is internet connection and possibly direct it to the one. I have BlueVPN connected to my BB and some of the apps do not work on tether - for instance Gmail, Google Talk... Aug 05 13:03:36 But Chrome works and so do most of other apps Aug 05 13:04:12 I am thinking of setting this up manually later on so I was wondering how would one go about passing that information to the system.... Aug 05 13:08:45 omar, i think if you have a list item, and on that 'level' you manipulate the parent listview, you're doing things wrong. so the listview should catch the click (onitemclicked or sth) Aug 05 13:10:45 anyone with the SDK source code could tell me how large is the .repo directory approximately? Aug 05 13:11:42 sam: 5.2 GB Aug 05 13:12:33 joel135: thank! still 1 hour until it's downloaded then :) Aug 05 13:17:16 copy Aug 05 13:17:48 paste Aug 05 13:18:39 hmm Aug 05 13:18:58 hi Aug 05 13:36:23 is there a rss/atom feedparser you can recommend? preferably with few or no external dependencies Aug 05 14:15:58 tango Aug 05 15:07:31 how do i use GCM with a python appengine app? all examples seem to be for java backend Aug 05 15:14:20 can i post my new application here Aug 05 15:17:45 if i have 2 buttons and setOnClickListener() set, will they respond to multitouch? (ie, can i press 2 buttons at the same instant?) Aug 05 15:18:16 catniya: sounds like horrible ui Aug 05 15:18:53 then again, maybe not; e.g., gamepads Aug 05 15:19:42 pragma-: why 2 Buttons are horrible Aug 05 15:20:10 can someone test my application Aug 05 15:20:14 will both of them work at the same instant? if i press both of them, one with one finger and the other with another Aug 05 15:26:11 http://www.moboing.com/smallshow.jpg - If I wanted to make it so the balloons pop on touch and those stars/glares animate and fall off, what would be the best method/direction in achieving that animation? Aug 05 15:32:50 is there some recommendable multilangual EULA freely avaible which suits android apps? Aug 05 15:34:43 there should be an online service for generating EULAs with preset clauses which are commonly used, would be useful Aug 05 15:38:34 hi. what do you think about an online marketplace web site to let android app Developers, Graphics Designers, Music Composers/Editors, Youtube Video Promoters, App Reviewers list their profile and let others search for them? Is there any similar site? Is there any problem in this business model? Aug 05 15:39:38 mobilegamelabs its good idea Aug 05 15:39:42 why youtube video promoters? Aug 05 15:40:02 kmap2: really? is there any problem in such model? Aug 05 15:40:18 i dont think so mobilegamelabs Aug 05 15:40:20 haskeller: promote via youtube Aug 05 15:40:57 Explain. Aug 05 15:41:28 kmap2: do you think there is a demand? Aug 05 15:41:28 haskeller: youtube users help to make youtube videos Aug 05 15:41:44 if i have 2 buttons and setOnClickListener() set, will they respond to multitouch? (ie, can i press 2 buttons at the same instant?). will it work? Aug 05 15:42:14 what is the actual intent of the website? help developers/designers/etc.. find partners? Aug 05 15:42:16 catniya, after you wrote such code, what happened? Aug 05 15:42:41