**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 08 02:59:58 2012 Aug 08 03:09:52 findViewById(R.id.button1) is an object, right? Aug 08 03:10:56 i have an arraylist of type Button, i want to add the buttons to it Aug 08 03:10:59 buttons.add(findViewById(R.id.button1)); isn't correct Aug 08 03:14:22 i think i'm figuring it out, Button isn't that object type Aug 08 03:30:58 Hi guys, I have a ListView that is empty upon starting. In iOS, it shows empty rows with dividers until a row is actually added. In android it is just an empty view. How do I get it to display empty rows until content is added? Aug 08 03:37:40 how can i access my TableLayout programmatically? Aug 08 03:37:50 R.id.no_table_here Aug 08 03:50:38 How to zoom on the Emulator ? Someone told me that they could zoom using CTRL and Mouse 1 but it does not seem to work for me Aug 08 04:08:19 I love using PNGout. It's like buying things on clearance Aug 08 04:08:43 65% off Aug 08 04:38:02 hey does anyone out there know much about appending string to a session cookie? Aug 08 04:38:30 in Java you use + to append to a string Aug 08 04:38:51 wait are you using javascript to get the cookie ? Aug 08 04:39:00 http://pastie.org/4409931 Aug 08 04:39:39 basically in this piece of code i'm getting the cookie appending some string to it then trying to set the cookie Aug 08 04:39:41 ok so whats the problem Aug 08 04:39:44 ok Aug 08 04:39:46 with the new data Aug 08 04:39:58 but it does set with the new data Aug 08 04:40:01 read the docs for the CookieManager class Aug 08 04:40:05 doesnt* Aug 08 04:40:33 yeah i've seen examples that do it the same way as i've done it there Aug 08 04:44:59 hmmm not much luck there every example i can find does it in the same way, the api doc too Aug 08 04:51:38 Hello World Aug 08 04:56:03 So, I have a strange problem related to building. My colleague and I are working on an Android project using NDK. He was able to set up the project using the information provided here http://www.rbgrn.net/content/348-get-your-eclipse-integrated-ndk-on . I followed these instructions and did the same thing. However, when I attempt to build the project, as long as I don't edit any of the Aug 08 04:56:03 files, it builds and runs fine. However, the moment I attempt to edit the files and then build, I get an error saying that there are missing includes. The NDK part of the build goes fine - but the missing includes stop the build. I do have CDT installed. Was wondering if anyone could help me out here since I'm very new at this. Thank you very much. Aug 08 05:07:28 i update the URL under contact information for an app I published to the app store but when i go to the play store on the web, its still goes to the old address. Is there anything else I need to update ? Aug 08 05:09:37 who here is a registered android developer ? Aug 08 05:09:55 probably most of us Aug 08 05:10:47 i update the URL under contact information for one of my apps that I published to the app store but when I go to the play store on the web or phone, its still goes to the old address. Is there anything else I need to update ? Aug 08 05:11:15 No, sometimes it just takes a while to update. Aug 08 05:11:43 you'd think that something simple would update immediately Aug 08 05:12:44 Ha, yeah, I suppose. Aug 08 05:12:51 i am but this will be my first release, as soon as a figure out out to set this damn cookie! Aug 08 05:22:33 nexsoftware its been 20 minutes and the url for my web site hasn't changed on the play store Aug 08 05:22:58 what's the app? Aug 08 05:23:34 its a helper app for a streaming music web app Aug 08 05:24:34 link? Aug 08 05:32:39 it takes 21 minutes to change Aug 08 05:42:57 its not coincidence that 21 is half of 42 Aug 08 05:44:02 Repeat of my question from earlier: So, I have a strange problem related to building. My colleague and I are working on an Android project using NDK. He was able to set up the project using the information provided here http://www.rbgrn.net/content/348-get-your-eclipse-integrated-ndk-on . I followed these instructions and did the same thing. However, when I attempt to build the project, Aug 08 05:44:02 as long as I don't edit any of the files, it builds and runs fine. However, the moment I attempt to edit the files and then build, I get an error saying that there are missing includes. The NDK part of the build goes fine - but the missing includes stop the build. I do have CDT installed. Was wondering if anyone could help me out here since I'm very new at this. Thank you very much. Aug 08 05:47:17 p_l|debloating-o: you're the only one i know who twitters via their nick Aug 08 05:48:12 s/twitters/tweet/ Aug 08 05:48:37 my girlfriend calls it "twits" Aug 08 05:48:43 :) Aug 08 05:51:09 JakeWharton: have you used the fluffy location lib at all? Aug 08 05:51:20 no, we have our own internally Aug 08 05:51:50 Does anyone in here know the nickname "cagedwisdom"? Aug 08 05:51:53 I just tried it on ICS RAZR and it shows up my app as using 15% of the battery throughout the day even when I load my app once and use it for just a few secs. I have all the default settings (15 min broadcast) Aug 08 05:51:58 very weird Aug 08 05:52:30 Dude solicited me off of here, and trying to scam me in to free work. get a life bro Aug 08 05:52:32 I'm actually the founder of the channel believe it or not...well me and jsharkey. Aug 08 05:52:58 asking for source code you've written when you have no github profile is not scamming. Aug 08 05:53:31 wanting me to modify an open source project to fit his "startups needs" Aug 08 05:53:32 ok Aug 08 05:54:28 im sorry if you are insulted by our convo. writing an app that plays a noise that gets one star doesnt qualify you for a job with my company. Aug 08 05:54:59 I have yet to see any of your apps because you refuse to give me any links Aug 08 05:55:08 let alone a company website Aug 08 05:55:23 what apps? I dont have any presently on the play market Aug 08 05:55:28 i never claimed to have any Aug 08 05:56:19 Well I know a startup has a website Aug 08 05:56:44 Didn't you tell me that the server side was already complete? Aug 08 05:56:45 dlaroche: if you don't want to do it, just say no. Aug 08 05:56:57 I DID SAY NO!!!! Aug 08 05:57:00 there's no need to come in here and act up Aug 08 05:57:02 also that was a test, it hardly fits my needs. i said the job was about writing network heavy apps. if you cant write an android service what good are you to me Aug 08 05:57:07 it has nothing to do with this channel Aug 08 05:57:48 I was asking for any creditability for this guy. He chimed in Aug 08 06:00:16 for the record, the registered founders of this channel are morrildl, sanmehat and romainguy... Aug 08 06:00:32 Leeds: thank you. Aug 08 06:00:51 Leeds, it's been transferred. First I registered it. Then I transfered it to jsharkey, then he transferred it I assume to san and stuff. Aug 08 06:01:09 Originally we all hung out on #android and it got crazy noisy in there. Aug 08 06:01:57 but you don't have any apps?? LMAO Aug 08 06:02:16 and my logging for the channel, which goes back to 2009, doesn't show cagedwisdom being in here until April of this year Aug 08 06:02:33 Leeds: thank you again. just what I figured. Aug 08 06:02:34 lawyered Aug 08 06:02:58 it's quite possible that cagedwisdom was using a different nick before... that's just the facts I see... Aug 08 06:03:10 How about we don't flame in here Aug 08 06:03:13 Leeds, my previous nicks were EricInBNE and before that gambler. ...I just happen to be nostalgic about Arrested Development. Aug 08 06:03:36 cagedwisdom: great show Aug 08 06:03:54 haven't seen san in a loooong time Aug 08 06:03:56 He's good....should see our Skype convo Aug 08 06:04:24 or jsharkey for that matter Aug 08 06:04:48 Leeds is now our overlord Aug 08 06:05:36 people move on - or at least have less time to waste on IRC Aug 08 06:06:43 how does it work as far as the keystore ? Do you normally create a different one for each app that you export and upload to the play store ? Aug 08 06:06:43 what could possibly be better at wasting time or lowering IQ than irc ? Aug 08 06:07:00 devslash: no you don't have to Aug 08 06:07:17 I live rural so IRC is my only social time Aug 08 06:07:19 devslash: up to you... there are things you can do if you have multiple apps under one key - on the other hand, it makes it easier if you might want to pass on an app later, or sell it Aug 08 06:07:41 i used the same keystore for 2 different apps but it seems odd to me Aug 08 06:08:28 the package identifier for 1 of my apps is com.myappname.android where myappname is the actually name of my app. but I used the same keystone for a different app and it shows up with the same identifier in the play store Aug 08 06:09:06 then you've screwed up somewhere Aug 08 06:09:18 also, do you own myappname.com? Aug 08 06:09:26 no Aug 08 06:09:43 i thought it was used only to identify the specific app Aug 08 06:10:07 its best practice to write it under a domain you own Aug 08 06:10:10 then you shouldn't really use it - convention is to use a domain you own, because then you 'own' that namespace Aug 08 06:10:17 com.mydomain.appname Aug 08 06:10:18 like all my apps are under com.controllesenility.android.* Aug 08 06:10:25 o Aug 08 06:10:33 and mine are mostly under org.vmlinuz Aug 08 06:10:33 i don't really own a domain Aug 08 06:11:43 i do own a personal domain but i don't want it associated with my android account. Aug 08 06:12:17 then either buy another one, or use something which isn't a domain - there's nothing which says it has to be com.* - but if it is, you shouldn't use one you don't own Aug 08 06:12:21 devslash: if you plan on being professional about it then just purchase a domain name. they aren't that much Aug 08 06:12:27 you can use devslash.myapp if you really want Aug 08 06:13:54 does the structure under src have to following the same naming pattern Aug 08 06:14:01 my apps are all under com.apple.* Aug 08 06:14:20 src/devslash/appname/com ? Aug 08 06:14:29 JakeWharton: not com.starbucks.*? Aug 08 06:14:44 in all seriousness, using the same keystore for multiple apps gives you some cool affordances Aug 08 06:14:46 heh :) Aug 08 06:14:54 ;) Aug 08 06:14:56 is it safe to delete the gen folder Aug 08 06:14:59 yes Aug 08 06:15:28 JakeWharton: the main thing it stops you doing is breaking up your apps later - say you want to hand over to another dev, or sell the app, you have to give them your key Aug 08 06:15:46 true Aug 08 06:16:02 i just migrated all of our development apps to use the same shared user ID as well Aug 08 06:16:07 * Leeds to lunch Aug 08 06:16:24 Leeds: whats country are you in? Aug 08 06:16:26 so whats the best option ? same keystone or different ? Aug 08 06:16:59 QubeZ: have you seen GeoLoqi ? it reminded me of your app Aug 08 06:17:10 g00s: no, but searching Aug 08 06:17:24 its pretty old, actually. i read about it in a book about Mobile UX Aug 08 06:17:45 devslash: go separate Aug 08 06:18:18 g00s: it's got a 3.6 rating heh Aug 08 06:18:56 interesting nonetheless Aug 08 06:21:09 huh. I have a string i want to convert into an integer. i have a check to check its not null (if itemlist.get(i).getnumber() != null) and then total += Integer.parseInt(list.get(i).getnumber()); and this line is crashing for me with the following error: java.lang.numberformatexception: unable to parse 'null' as integer Aug 08 06:21:37 QubeZ: i thought there were some similarities with todomapr; or maybe not - thats why i brought it up Aug 08 06:21:47 why does this happen, even though i check for the null Aug 08 06:21:59 g00s: there are, lookslike a nice api too. I wonder how much money they are making Aug 08 06:22:29 eSatsu: why do you check for itemlist.get(i) then use list.get(i) ? Aug 08 06:22:52 er, typo Aug 08 06:23:00 both are the same Aug 08 06:23:22 (that is not the issue)\ Aug 08 06:24:20 eSatsu: i think for strings you need to use .equals(null) or .equals("null")... forgot which one Aug 08 06:24:45 neither Aug 08 06:25:19 it looks like "null" is the contents of your string Aug 08 06:26:16 oh, that makes sense, thanks Aug 08 06:26:28 so shouldn't it be if(!itemlist.get(i).getnumber().equals("null")) { total += .... } ? Aug 08 06:26:42 yeah i need to add a check for "null Aug 08 06:26:43 " Aug 08 06:26:46 not only null Aug 08 06:26:54 you should wrap this stuff in try/catch anyhow Aug 08 06:27:24 i disagree Aug 08 06:27:49 why? Aug 08 06:28:10 because that's a great way to hide actual bugs Aug 08 06:28:40 makes sense Aug 08 06:30:47 yeah, ive worked with a dev that put a try/catch in damn near every function Aug 08 06:30:55 and some of them never had the return value checked Aug 08 06:31:07 so enless you looked in the log, everything semed to work perfectly Aug 08 06:31:40 i prefer the model of putting the try/catch as far up the stack chain as posible Aug 08 06:32:05 near where the code becomes vital, where you actualy have enough context to make sense of what triggered the error Aug 08 06:45:35 clever: who was that dude? want to make sure i never work with them Aug 08 06:46:12 g00s: it was in php code Aug 08 06:46:48 php is like the proverbial try/catch of languages in the first place :P Aug 08 06:47:11 clever: oh ok, no point in trying to write good php code :P Aug 08 06:47:17 lol Aug 08 06:52:34 morning JakeWharton Aug 08 06:52:45 evening! Aug 08 07:01:23 <_genuser_> how do you guys store dates in sqlite DBs? Just as text (toString()) of java date functions? Or do you store mm dd yyyy individually in int fields? Aug 08 07:04:44 _genuser_: epoch time Aug 08 07:04:54 ms past 1970 jan 1 Aug 08 07:05:42 I store epic time Aug 08 07:05:57 you multiple everything by 1,000,000 to make it more epic Aug 08 07:06:39 but yeah, you should just store an int ideally Aug 08 07:10:40 JakeWharton: what about *9000? that should help confuse people trying to crack your dates too!! :P Aug 08 07:11:04 the output will just appear random Aug 08 07:11:47 sadly that would pass for encryption with some companies… Aug 08 07:12:38 id threaten to fire if anybody was caught doing that with sensitive info :P Aug 08 07:16:38 everyone knows that rot-13 is secure Aug 08 07:17:00 but if you want to make it really secure, double it up to rot-26 Aug 08 07:17:40 <_genuser_> g00s, JakeWharton thanks guys. I was thinking that storing DATE format would be cumbersome if toString()'d. Aug 08 07:17:53 and use another rot for every char :D (wouldnt that make it a vigenere?) Aug 08 07:18:02 <_genuser_> epoc time sounds better idea. Aug 08 07:18:39 _genuser_: just be careful about timezones Aug 08 07:18:56 make sure it's seconds since the epoch in GMT Aug 08 07:19:01 and make sure you parse it as such Aug 08 07:19:33 <_genuser_> JakeWharton: good point. hopefully it won't make a difference since it's a TODO list tracker for my phone. Aug 08 07:19:44 just don't travel! Aug 08 07:19:55 <_genuser_> JakeWharton: I know plenty are out there, but it's easier to learn new platforms writing a complete app. Aug 08 07:20:06 absolutely agree Aug 08 07:20:10 learn by doing Aug 08 07:20:11 <_genuser_> becuase it brings out useful use-cases such as taking into account timezones. Aug 08 07:20:14 <_genuser_> or don't travel, lol. Aug 08 07:21:37 <_genuser_> db dev is kinda going nicely since I found android-sdk folder has a sqlite3 provided. :) Aug 08 07:21:55 the iOS cal stuff lets you set a timezone for every event, so you can easily enter events from another timezone Aug 08 07:26:59 hei everyone. Aug 08 07:27:04 i'm developing a small game for Android devices and after the game finished the user has the option of restarting the game Aug 08 07:27:08 at which point i clear all the bitmaps and remove all the ImageViews they were in Aug 08 07:27:12 and then redraw the entire thing Aug 08 07:27:20 the problem is that for a second or so, the objects which hold the bitmaps dissapear Aug 08 07:27:37 i'd like to make the entire screen go dark for a second Aug 08 07:27:45 while i remove and then redraw everything Aug 08 07:27:51 any1 got a clue ? Aug 08 07:28:19 _genuser_: there was an old HN article on this a while back http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3969382 Aug 08 07:28:38 fucking timezones and dst … Aug 08 07:36:21 <_genuser_> g00s: thx for the article. reading... Aug 08 07:38:26 Hey, I have a square image I want to use as a background to my app. I want it to scale to the largest dimension and crop the rest. I am able to do this with an ImageView but that xml file sits in /layout and not /drawable so I can't actually use it as my background. Thoughts? Aug 08 07:42:36 just throwing my 2 cents ... have you tried the scaleType:fitXY or some other value for scaleType? Aug 08 07:43:29 I am using scaleType:centerCrop, which does the trick, but it doe snot work on drawables such as bitmap Aug 08 07:46:27 did you try asking on stackoverflow? Aug 08 07:46:30 dot com Aug 08 07:46:32 yes Aug 08 07:46:59 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11856263/how-can-i-scale-clip-a-drawable-to-the-largest-axis Aug 08 07:47:27 dot co dot you kay Aug 08 07:51:08 Let me check when my System 76 laptop is getting delivered... Aug 08 08:13:20 hei guys... i've noticed some Android devices whcih don't have an SD card, they simulate it using a folder in the phone's memory Aug 08 08:13:36 does this feature exist on all android devices? Aug 08 08:13:56 or should i consider the fact that some devices don't have an SD card...and i should let the user know i can't store stuff Aug 08 08:13:57 ? Aug 08 08:14:23 Android devices have an Internal storage, and an External storage Aug 08 08:14:37 http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/data-storage.html Aug 08 08:14:50 More specifically: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/data-storage.html#filesInternal Aug 08 08:18:25 well..i'm using SharedPreferences to store my data Aug 08 08:19:00 the cursor class has getint, getlong, but there no method called get boolean :( Aug 08 08:19:12 will that save it in the phone's memory automatically if there is no SD card? Aug 08 08:19:23 or should i call getint, since boolean is stored as 0 or 1? Aug 08 08:46:00 if i use layout_margin = "5dp" all over in my layouts, is there a way to factor this constant out? Aug 08 08:52:38 dimensions resource Aug 08 08:52:58 stork: ok, looking into it..\ Aug 08 08:53:12 stork: but yes, doh, obviously :D meh, sometimes i feel stupid :D Aug 08 08:53:44 Hello, I have a question about redraw an image view. I am going to implement an app that can do annotation on an image. So I use an image view and call invalidate when ever there is onTouchEvent. Using this approach, I realized that the performance is poor. Any suggestion to help to improve it??? Aug 08 08:55:06 edwinkcw: leave the image where it is, overlay your annotation on it (using a FrameLayout maybe), then composite the two if and when you want to do anything with the resulting image except view it? Aug 08 08:55:13 it happens :3 Aug 08 08:55:43 edwinkcw: not a solution, but I am in love with pngout right now. It optimizes your bitmaps. :) Aug 08 08:55:56 Ps I'm a ricer Aug 08 08:55:59 themirror: pngout? Aug 08 08:56:20 Leeds: but I still need to invalidate the overlay, right? Aug 08 08:56:39 you need to draw it, yes Aug 08 08:56:42 Yeah as an afterthought, just plugging for the tool i guess Aug 08 08:57:17 Leeds: ok, let me try it. Aug 08 09:16:40 Leeds: will openGl help for this part? Aug 08 09:16:54 nope, but a surfaceview might Aug 08 09:17:15 Hello guys, I want to add an ads bar in my app, but I don't want an arbitrary advertisement on my app. It should fit to purpose of the app. For example if I have an app that assists how to prepare food, I want ads like about blending machines, or pots or food. Not something totally different like buying a house. So is there a possibility to finetune the type of ads? Aug 08 09:17:16 well, it could, but I'd say it's overcomplicating things Aug 08 09:18:23 I also think it's better for the advertisers to reach the right people on the right time. Aug 08 09:18:56 Number5: about the only way you're going to do that, unless you've got massive ad volume, is to do something like handpick referral ads from Amazon Aug 08 09:20:07 Leeds, I'm not sure I understand, do you have an example? Aug 08 09:20:20 a link or something is good enough so I can read it Aug 08 09:20:23 what don't you understand? Aug 08 09:21:29 massive ad volume (why one should necessary have that) and that handpicking referal ads from amazon Aug 08 09:21:38 unless you're showing enough ads that you can sell them directly to advertisers, you're going to go through an ad network - which firstly don't have the granularity (or normally the variety) to let you choose ads down to that level, but also take into account other things like locale and language Aug 08 09:21:41 actually everything you said :P Aug 08 09:22:05 you know how amazon referrals work? Aug 08 09:22:35 Leeds, no I think amazon stuff is new to me, I know it only as an online shop Aug 08 09:22:51 ah, so you're an online marketing expert then... Aug 08 09:23:07 realistically, how many ads are you going to show? thousands? millions? Aug 08 09:23:44 no not at all, maybe I want to try to be one. But I think I can reach a million ;-) Aug 08 09:24:26 okay, I'll say it again Aug 08 09:24:27 But if I will added other languages it can be more :) Aug 08 09:24:49 unless you're going to show massive numbers of ads - millions, at least - you're going to be showing ads from an ad network Aug 08 09:24:59 you're not going to be sellings ads directly to advertisers Aug 08 09:25:10 hi Aug 08 09:25:30 which means you don't get to choose what ads are being shown - because you're not important or valuable enough for anyone to spend time or effort letting you do that Aug 08 09:25:56 Can somebody please explain how I can resize icons properly, eg. i have a 512x512 laucher icon and i want to resize it to 72x72, using photoshop. when i do the normal resize, the image always lookes bad Aug 08 09:25:57 ok, leeds, thank you very much. Aug 08 09:26:18 you can probably give the network keywords, and possibly block specific ads you don't want to show Aug 08 09:26:46 but *they* probably don't have enough ads - or a large enough variety of ads - to let everybody choose their own Aug 08 09:27:14 raywan: your only decent option is bicubic sharper Aug 08 09:27:30 Amazon referrals is simple - you sign up with Amazon as a referrer, then you can generate links to Amazon pages which will pay you a few % commission on any sales Aug 08 09:28:04 in which case you could pick 10 'food' related items, or categories, or whatever, and use those links as your ads Aug 08 09:28:28 themirror, reading the andriod icon design docs, how do they acheive resize clear proper icons at different sizes? do they remake the icon at each size Aug 08 09:28:31 does that make sense? Aug 08 09:28:40 is it possible, while debugging (in eclipse) to skip a breakpoint a given number of times? Aug 08 09:29:51 raywan: you could, but its a pain. Bicubic sharper resize sample in photoshop is all u can do with same image, and results are mostly negligible Aug 08 09:30:47 you may have to make a different one or redo your icon if u can't talk yourself out of it Aug 08 09:30:50 An_Ony_Moose, Easiest way would be to have a counter and the break point inside a conditional statement. 5 seconds of coding. Aug 08 09:32:11 Israfel: ah yes, I have a counter anyway. I just figured out how to make a breakpoint conditional. Thanks! Aug 08 09:33:43 themirror, have you used the psd icon templates before? Aug 08 09:34:34 raywan, still not there yet in my app, but seems straightforward why Aug 08 09:36:08 themirror, what am using, it has the same psd template for each density, just different size, i thought i could make my icon with the largest and resize, but it just does not look the same Aug 08 09:37:21 raywan: unfortunate, sorry. There's no easy way out of it sorry Aug 08 09:37:38 goodnight Aug 08 09:39:26 hi can someone please help im trying to update a map with markers using async task onPostexecute is not updating the ui thread Aug 08 09:56:26 #django Aug 08 10:04:30 Did someone see my message about Onpostexecute using asynctask i have been having difficulties trying to update a map with markers onPostexecute Aug 08 10:07:49 yeah Aug 08 10:07:58 it should be possible Aug 08 10:08:25 what are you doing? Aug 08 10:08:29 and what happens? Aug 08 10:20:47 lol, ticket submitted "It's a user error I think. The customer typed in asdfasdf on keyboard: don't to that." Aug 08 10:21:23 doInBackground is making a network call and returning JSON object which has location coordinates, onPostExecute is getting the longitude and the latitude from the JSON and "updating" the ui with the marker of the corresponding location Aug 08 10:21:52 right now its not updating Aug 08 10:22:29 how do i access my tablelayout via java? Aug 08 10:22:34 R.id.no_table_here Aug 08 10:24:16 Stokk1: i meant Aug 08 10:24:19 paste the code Aug 08 10:24:26 what have you done to debug it? Aug 08 10:24:56 do the coordinates change? does the mapview contain the new data? does draw-method see old or new coordinates? is it even called? Aug 08 10:26:04 ahhh, set an ID :) Aug 08 10:27:56 private class Nearbylocation extends AsyncTask { @Override protected JSONObject doInBackground(String... params) { try { String url = params[0]; // HTTP Client HttpClient client = new DefaultHttpClient(); HttpGet httpRequest = new HttpGet(url); httpRequest.setHeader("Accept", "application/json"); HttpResponse response = client.execute(httpRequest); Log.i(TAG, "response Aug 08 10:28:51 >pastebin Aug 08 10:29:06 holy... Aug 08 10:34:01 yuizy: the coordinates do change, the mapview does not contain the new data Aug 08 10:34:06 http://pastebin.com/RLJzrcWs Aug 08 10:34:21 so Aug 08 10:34:25 why does that happen? Aug 08 10:36:54 yuizy: The draw method is not called Aug 08 10:37:16 so Aug 08 10:37:59 you create an overlay everytime you add a new pin? Aug 08 10:42:26 yuizy: is that bad practice? Aug 08 10:42:44 yes Aug 08 10:42:47 well depends Aug 08 10:42:51 it doesn't matter Aug 08 10:43:00 just add more debug Aug 08 10:43:15 remove parts that don't matter Aug 08 10:43:22 like the asynctask Aug 08 10:43:27 call locale() manually Aug 08 10:44:42 i see you have commented out the "*1E6" part. why is that? Aug 08 10:46:16 when its not commented out i was unable to get the device location Aug 08 10:47:04 can you please explain when you say it depends Aug 08 10:47:20 and adding more debug Aug 08 10:47:22 it depends on what you do Aug 08 10:47:59 it doesn't matter as long as you're struggling at more basic issues Aug 08 10:48:06 i have a 4x4 table of buttons made via xml… i'm trying to dynamically add a table row with a new button on it… whenever i do this, i only get the first button from each row… any ideas? Aug 08 10:48:08 can paste Aug 08 10:48:43 My app needs to display and edit data provided by a remote web api, is using a ContentProvider and Loader's the recommended way of doing this? Aug 08 10:50:20 how do i force the action mode bar to show the "done" text for the done button? Aug 08 10:52:13 eXeC64: Loaders are the right tool to use yes :) Aug 08 10:52:32 ContentProviders aren't probably necessary Aug 08 10:53:54 Mavrik, So just do any asyncrhonous work I need to inside of the loader? Aug 08 10:54:26 I take it I'll need to tell the loaders when to reload data? Aug 08 10:57:47 http://pastebin.com/X3jMFvy3 Aug 08 10:58:14 this is a 4x4 grid of buttons… whenever i add the tablerow (table.addView(row)) it changes to a 1x5 grid Aug 08 10:58:20 any ideas where the other buttons are going? Aug 08 11:26:38 Is there anything in the SDK or other than that, that can be of any help to me in making a Graphic Novel? Aug 08 11:30:36 is it possible to broadcast an explict intent from a Service to a class so that only the receiving class gets this message? Aug 08 11:34:16 I have a TextView and a Button in a LinearLayout. I can see the space occupied by the button but the button itself is not visible. What am I doing wrong? Aug 08 11:34:55 !t start Aug 08 11:34:58 i mean hi Aug 08 11:43:16 what i have done i postet here http://pastecode.org/index.php/view/66329462 i dont understand why i did not get the intent, perhaps anyone? Aug 08 12:03:05 is there a particular reason for there being no Bitmap.Config.RGB_888? Aug 08 12:03:41 nuce: i speculate that the intent contrustor you're using isn't valid for broadcasting Aug 08 12:03:56 constructor Aug 08 12:04:08 ypu spelt gallery wrong Aug 08 12:04:12 that's probably the problem Aug 08 12:04:56 dalvik doesn't spell check class names at runtime ;) Aug 08 12:05:12 haha Aug 08 12:05:21 it doesn't matter if the class name is spelled incorrectly Aug 08 12:05:32 lol Aug 08 12:05:40 it does if you refer to it with the correct spelling elsewhere! :P Aug 08 12:05:52 that wouldn't compile Aug 08 12:06:19 oh right we're talking runtime Aug 08 12:06:31 my bad :D Aug 08 12:10:22 hi, anyone use android-maven-plugin for 4.1 ? is it needed use of SNAPSHOT version ? Where I can found com.google.android/android maven pom/jar for version 4.1.0 ? thanks in advance Aug 08 12:33:25 feature request for the next version of ADT: display colors not only as rgb or argb values in the graphical xml editor, but also as color :D Aug 08 12:34:47 tapas: b.android.com Aug 08 12:36:17 wongk: yeah.. Aug 08 12:40:17 taking a look at the ADT source.. Aug 08 12:40:22 that should be easy to add.. Aug 08 12:44:01 is there an irc channel dedicated to hacking the SDK itself> Aug 08 12:44:04 ? Aug 08 12:45:23 hi Aug 08 12:47:46 How can I prevent the back button from leading the user back to my login activity while the user is still logged in? The main activity provides a logout button, I'd like the back button to instead take the user to the home screen or another task instead. Aug 08 12:49:18 is it possible to display an imageview in the background, underneath th eother contents of a layout? Aug 08 12:51:26 ya Aug 08 12:52:42 eXeC64: can you bind the back button to do something else? Aug 08 12:53:22 If there's no particular reason to interfere with the activity stack, I guess you could just call finish() in your login activity. Aug 08 12:53:26 sponji, There most intuitive thing for the back button to do in this case is to return the user to the previous task Aug 08 12:54:03 HDroid, Would that be calling finish before starting the main activity? Aug 08 12:54:12 or immediately after? Aug 08 12:54:34 eXeC64: immediately after Aug 08 12:54:41 well there must be a way to bind the button, other apps are doing it some how. Either giving you a popup dialog box confirming yes/no to quit. etc.. Aug 08 12:55:55 HDroid, That works perfectly. Thank you. Aug 08 12:57:35 i also wonder: can i reference other colors in a color resource file? Aug 08 12:57:49 K17: set a background on your top level layout: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/View.html#attr_android:background Aug 08 12:58:13 hmm, seems to work fine Aug 08 12:59:43 is there a way to say that the app is not localized? Aug 08 12:59:47 i'm seeing all these languages listed Aug 08 12:59:52 and all i want is english Aug 08 13:03:41 When I create a Dialog, I give it the context (MainActivity.this). Can I somehow send a message from "onDismiss" to MainActivity? Aug 08 13:13:43 I was reading about java and got to abstract classes which need not be instantiated which means most android java classes are abstract? Aug 08 13:15:09 diki: an abstract class can not be instanciated, but you can extend it or call static methods. I am not sure that an android related chan is the best place to learn java Aug 08 13:15:44 olivier_b: android is pretty much java Aug 08 13:16:23 Omg nick spam Aug 08 13:16:33 someone needs help Aug 08 13:16:41 And a ban Aug 08 13:17:07 too Aug 08 13:17:26 i wonder how that happens Aug 08 13:17:36 What? Aug 08 13:17:48 those changes Aug 08 13:17:53 does he type that fast? Aug 08 13:17:58 Perhaps an enforcer was set Aug 08 13:21:26 <[emil]> Testing registration. Aug 08 13:21:33 diki: I'd recommend going to #java Aug 08 13:21:42 most android java classes are in fact NOT abstract Aug 08 13:21:48 if they don't have the "abstract" keyword, they are not abstract Aug 08 13:21:56 they may not have publicly visible constructors, but that's not the same thing. Aug 08 13:22:05 lov: but I am here because I want to develop for Android. Aug 08 13:22:16 ..... riiight, but you develop for Android IN JAVA. Aug 08 13:22:26 So having a good grasp on Java is a pretty big prerequisite for android development Aug 08 13:22:37 unless you're going a straight c/c++ route, in which case you need to know C AND Java. Aug 08 13:22:45 lov: I mostly plan to use jni. Aug 08 13:22:50 <[emil]> . Aug 08 13:23:14 that's fair, but you'll need to understand how to instanciate java classes and call java methods via JNI to get callbacks from the frameworks layer, etc Aug 08 13:24:02 By the way, are there any recent comparisons of running benchmark suites in both dalvik and C to try to estimate what the dalvik speed penalty is? Aug 08 13:24:07 Lol, I already built an app that uses jni to calculate something and display it within a text field as well as a button to generate a new string Aug 08 13:24:10 has anyone worked on measuring this recently? Aug 08 13:24:38 And this is without prior knowledge of java. Aug 08 13:25:04 diki: alright, best of luck then. Aug 08 13:25:31 alankila: with JIT the performance penalty might be minimal. Aug 08 13:25:47 lov: it is still some integer factor, most likely. I'm just wondering if it's 6, 5, 4 or 3 Aug 08 13:26:07 All I can say atm is that development for Android is 100 times easier than Symbian dev. Aug 08 13:26:10 for jvm it is 2, being very simplistic Aug 08 13:26:55 last time I took a very crude stab of measuring it, I got a value around 8, but that was in 2.2 time or when the JIT was very recent Aug 08 13:31:16 I should probably try to run some real algorithms like one fast integer-based FFT that I have in C. It should translate almost without syntax changes to java, so it might be a good candidate Aug 08 13:31:44 it's not normal java style, but it would give some kind of estimate of running integer-crunching algorithms in java instead of C Aug 08 13:32:36 alankila: if you're doing dramatic number crunching where performance is absolutely essential, you should probably just do it in C anyway since you can hand-tune it. Aug 08 13:33:29