**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 09 02:59:59 2012 Aug 09 03:14:16 Does anyone know about ANR keyDispatchingTimedOut Aug 09 03:14:33 I got a error report for that, that someone reported Aug 09 03:14:37 I don't quite get it Aug 09 03:26:36 ron_frown: is anyone on craigslist legit ? Aug 09 03:26:57 no Aug 09 03:26:59 not at all Aug 09 03:27:04 I've tried to sell a few itesm Aug 09 03:27:10 items and had TONS of people respond Aug 09 03:27:16 but nobody actually follows through =) Aug 09 03:27:19 i keep getting "is this for sale? i'll buy if you ship!" Aug 09 03:27:28 i'm like, yeah, if you ship cash first Aug 09 03:27:32 dumbasses Aug 09 03:28:24 I bought my car off craigslist lol Aug 09 03:29:49 g00s craigslist is only really good for local :/ , else it's just a waste Aug 09 03:34:00 jug6-n7: yeah, i'm doing local :) Aug 09 03:35:05 :) Aug 09 03:35:27 Gl! It can definitely be a pain Aug 09 03:35:47 cl is good for buying Aug 09 03:35:51 and hookers Aug 09 03:36:00 Lol Aug 09 03:36:15 note: you only ever rent front-row rugby players Aug 09 03:37:14 Did anyone's Developer console update for them today? Aug 09 03:37:53 Not mine Aug 09 03:38:10 Same Aug 09 03:38:13 fuuu google Aug 09 03:38:53 What it supposed to lol? Aug 09 03:39:11 I already for got what it even is Aug 09 03:39:57 I mean for like your app statistics Aug 09 03:39:59 Downloads/installs Aug 09 03:40:31 O no idea, I rarely check that stuff on desktop Aug 09 03:44:41 hm Aug 09 03:45:11 if i have a listview with rows and i want to add 0 to n amount of images on each row whats the best way to deal with it Aug 09 03:45:38 image/row height should be constant, but the padding between the images should change based on screen size / amount of images Aug 09 03:45:55 even going negative so that the images on the left go on top of the ones on the right Aug 09 04:05:39 freelancers, msg me Aug 09 04:06:07 thc: channel topic? Aug 09 04:06:37 yeah? what's wrong there? Aug 09 04:06:55 "Please don't advertise websites, jobs, or contracts" Aug 09 04:07:06 did I advertis something you little dumb? Aug 09 04:07:10 *e Aug 09 04:08:55 So, i want to open source one of my apps. Which files shoudl I stick on github from my eclipse project? just /src, /res, /assets and AndroidManifest.xml ? Aug 09 04:15:18 K17: you build with eclipse? Aug 09 04:16:17 yes Aug 09 04:16:30 hmm, not sure if there are any project files to include then Aug 09 04:17:57 do i have to import something or use the orientation class the way i use the color class? I'm trying to pass 'vertical' into setOrientation Aug 09 04:18:17 23:25 < ron_frown> I've tried to sell a few itesm Aug 09 04:18:38 sorry, mispaste.. trying to un-fullscreen putty Aug 09 04:18:55 i wouldn't need the project files though, would i? it would be fairly simple for someone to create their own project and dump my code into it, no? Aug 09 04:19:44 ok so lscpu reports 3.3ghz as my max but i7z says im running from 1.2 to 4.7 ish afterall Aug 09 04:19:48 phew! Aug 09 04:20:10 K17: should be, yeah... what's the app, anyway? Aug 09 04:21:01 it's nothing fancy~ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.landonmanning.mediaplayer.celestiaradio Aug 09 04:21:45 erm... ponify? ;) Aug 09 04:21:49 LinearLayout.VERTICAL ... got it Aug 09 04:21:54 :* Aug 09 04:22:11 ponies, man. ponies. Aug 09 04:22:45 yeah, ponies Aug 09 04:23:35 well, more open source code is always good, anyway ;) Aug 09 04:24:24 I used to run the radio station itself but have since handed it over. I decided to update the app to add some functionality i was in the middle of adding a few months ago. i've had a few people email me recently for help with android's streaming music because i've posted a handful of questions on stackoverflow, so i figure di'd just open it all up Aug 09 04:26:00 im starting to think any layout other than relative is a bad idea Aug 09 04:26:13 Also: LGE sucks at making ROMs Aug 09 04:26:18 mark4: then you're thinking wrong... Aug 09 04:26:39 Karai: good thoughts on opening rather than answering questions one at a time, yes Aug 09 04:26:43 leeds for anything other an a pure un-nested layout Aug 09 04:26:46 FrameLayout worked perfectly for my recent app update :P Aug 09 04:26:55 linear layout is fine till u start nesting layouts Aug 09 04:27:04 Karai: it can be a pain, i've been at it ~2-3 days now and still havent made a working image Aug 09 04:27:13 oh, sure - once you've got nesting going on, relativelayout is good Aug 09 04:27:32 clever: oh? I ha dno trouble with it once I decided to use it Aug 09 04:27:47 por ar eyou talking about LGE? Aug 09 04:27:58 Karai: i'm talking about compiling for a new device/target Aug 09 04:28:16 the pre-built images are close, but missing a few drivers Aug 09 04:28:18 clever: compiling the OS, or compiling an app? Aug 09 04:28:25 this is bloody #android-dev, as you bloody well know Aug 09 04:28:28 Leeds: the entire android system Aug 09 04:28:31 yeah Aug 09 04:28:47 was just commenting on this, its not easy, 09 01:26:13 < Karai> Also: LGE sucks at making ROMs Aug 09 04:28:54 I had an Optimus One and for some reason my phone was unable to prepare my mediaPlayer. Nothing I did to my app made it work. After rooting my phone and installing CM7, it worked flawlessly. Aug 09 04:29:14 breaking api's, woo! Aug 09 04:29:18 ^ Aug 09 04:29:25 Karai: the whole line of phones had the same breakage right? Aug 09 04:29:43 yes Aug 09 04:29:59 Karai, i LIKE cm7, would be better if it used GO launcher but im having extreme reservations about the go dev team. thne use airpush on go kbd and airpush pushes malware Aug 09 04:30:01 designing app for 2.3+, what http library should i be using? :) Aug 09 04:30:02 and porn Aug 09 04:30:22 i hope they do cm9 for the t-bolt Aug 09 04:31:06 i just picked up a nexus one from a friend, i was excited to have a nexus but now cm isn't going passed cm7.2 for the n1 :( Aug 09 04:32:43 mattvv: http://android-developers.blogspot.hk/2011/09/androids-http-clients.html "For Gingerbread and better, HttpURLConnection is the best choice" Aug 09 04:33:05 thanks for the link Leeds :) Aug 09 04:33:17 np Aug 09 04:34:42 Leeds: great post Aug 09 04:34:54 r0ver: not mine, but thanks anyway :) Aug 09 04:36:17 Leeds: is so easy to write a blog post today that i usually think is easier to write than detecting the good ones :D Aug 09 04:37:15 everybody should be reading the android-developers blog Aug 09 04:37:24 it's a pity it's a bit... sparse Aug 09 04:37:54 i find 99% of gooles docs to be boring and monotnonc and incomplete Aug 09 04:37:58 or rather Aug 09 04:38:27 they are complete if fyou read 4 things her. 20 things over there. and few more things in this otgher place and then read all of these things over here Aug 09 04:39:03 if u dont do that then ur going to get " <--- this much info related to what your trying to do when u need n"xxxxxxxxxxx" this much at a minumum Aug 09 04:39:22 are you trying to learn by reading reference docs? Aug 09 04:39:25 the docs are scatterbrained to say the least Aug 09 04:39:50 mark4: ive yet to find any docs on the core build system Aug 09 04:39:53 leeds i have about 5 books on android. i also skim thru and get thoroughly bored of android dos Aug 09 04:40:15 clever: #android-dev - get it? Aug 09 04:40:19 read countless tutorials that ALL come nowhere near what im trying to do most of the time Aug 09 04:40:48 why do u think im here suffering all your derrision for being a complete and utter noob Aug 09 04:40:56 mark4: well to be fair most of the questions you ask are non-standard and non-recommended ways of doing things Aug 09 04:40:57 only way im going to learn lol Aug 09 04:41:18 JakeSays, im a heretic i know Aug 09 04:41:37 and i DO listen to what u guys have to say Aug 09 04:41:54 i switched from nested linears to relative and dont regret it one iota Aug 09 04:43:20 what I love is the people who are trying to build multi-component, IPC-handling, network, foreground, background, OpenGL apps 2 days after first opening d.android.com Aug 09 04:44:31 leeds thats me Aug 09 04:45:04 Leeds: I think there's a page on that... Aug 09 04:45:09 i have an item at the top of my todo list that puts that to shame. port my linux direct threaded forth to android and write an FFI allowing access to alln the nice java goodies Aug 09 04:46:16 leeds i know im nub,. i know the way im doing thigs will be all wrong. but over time i can correct the wrongness. i always push to advanced mode and learn faster than doing endless hello world bs tutorials Aug 09 04:46:42 im only nub at java/android. Aug 09 04:46:49 heh Aug 09 04:46:52 ok and c++ too :) Aug 09 04:47:30 "I'd like to win an Olympic medal - I've never been on a bike before, but I learned to walk when I was very young, so I should be set for the national team, right?" Aug 09 04:48:11 mark4: seriously, that's fine - as long as you're not wasting other people's time trying to get help with stuff you haven't taken the time to understan Aug 09 04:48:57 leeds ive not asked a single question in here before spending at least 3 days fighting to find an answer that fits with what im trying to do Aug 09 04:49:13 the fact that im trying to do it wrong not withstanding.... Aug 09 04:49:28 i try. i fail. i ask for help. u show me im doing it all wrong.. . . Aug 09 04:49:33 I wasn't actually accusing you - I haven't noticed you doing that, unlike other people :) Aug 09 04:50:26 no i know... but at the samt time im admitting that while i might TRY find a way to do what im trying to do, a major percentage of the time your going to get frustratged with me simply because my way of trying is so fscked up Aug 09 04:50:31 due to nubness Aug 09 04:51:08 leeds if i spend 3 weeks trying the WRONG way thats the same as not trying at all in some peoples mind Aug 09 04:51:15 s Aug 09 04:51:50 there's nothing wrong with asking to be pointed in the right direction - the problem comes when people then ask to be led down the path step by step Aug 09 04:53:06 sometimes i need even that. go look at forth leeds. im probably more of an expert at forth than any of you guys are expert at java. the way of thinking forth ahd thinking java are sooooooo different that i sometimes have extreme difficulty Aug 09 04:53:15 Am aware that Android API 9 is obsolete by reading this thread --> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8353503/why-is-android-api-level-9-obsolete . Was wondering if there's someplace more 'official' that states this. Thank you. Aug 09 04:53:16 I prefer not to look at forth Aug 09 04:53:34 i can write an assembler in forth for almost any processor in a couple of days then u7se that to write a direct threaded forth for that processor in about a week. Aug 09 04:53:48 java... hmmm... fun but im not that good yet :) Aug 09 04:54:19 im also somewhat slow. i know people who can write the assembler and forth in less than 24 hours for any processor at all Aug 09 04:54:28 also, I'd never claim to be an expert in Java Aug 09 04:54:30 some of the guys at forth inc amaze me Aug 09 04:54:38 aLearner: API 9 itself only has 0.3% of users, but API 9 and below are about 20% of users. See http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html Aug 09 04:54:41 what I am mainly an expert in is finding stuff in the Android docs - which is *not* hard Aug 09 04:55:26 leeds finding it and understanding it and connecting the disjointed dots... thats not something i can always do with ease Aug 09 04:55:39 then it's an important skill for you to learn Aug 09 04:55:39 specially when googles docs are all dry, boring and monotonic Aug 09 04:56:00 um... they're *reference* docs - they're not meant to be entertaining, imaginative, and exciting Aug 09 04:56:18 this isn't exactly 50 Shades of Android... Aug 09 04:56:19 have you watched the I/O videos? Aug 09 04:56:22 good reference docs are entertaining. imaginative and exciting Aug 09 04:56:28 ryanm: Thank you. I did look at the dashboard. Was wondering if there's some official documentation saying it's obsolete. I can't seem to find it online. The question I was asked is: How is API 8 NOT obsolete but API 9 is? Aug 09 04:56:29 its an aid to learning Aug 09 04:56:35 JakeWharton: you don't know what mikedg gets up to in his spare time... Aug 09 04:56:44 make it boring and u encourage the brain to reject it Aug 09 04:57:19 aLearner: because all API 9 devices have upgrades to API 10 Aug 09 04:57:25 ive watched a couple of them. theyh all come across as marketing pushes with just enough info to push "buy into this shit" and not enough info to make use of it Aug 09 04:58:15 then you're an idiot, frankly, who is rejecting really good in-depth training by the experts in the field Aug 09 04:58:33 +1 Aug 09 04:58:46 but, y'know, that's your choice Aug 09 04:59:06 leeds no. its not that im rejecting it. its that if its not presented in an interesting way its more difficult to learn. good documentation is interesting as much as it is informative Aug 09 04:59:11 googls docs are BORING as fuck Aug 09 04:59:16 whatever Aug 09 04:59:17 i have to PUSh thru them Aug 09 04:59:19 JakeWharton: OK. Thank you. Is there some documentation online that states this? Perhpas on d.android.com or something? Aug 09 04:59:20 enough moaning now Aug 09 04:59:34 broken record Aug 09 04:59:45 aLearner: I have no idea, sorry Aug 09 04:59:45 * Leeds wonders if Apple's docs are all produced by Pixar or something? Aug 09 05:00:19 I'd spend more time reading the Android docs if they had cute puppies in them Aug 09 05:00:24 "I see you're trying to write a mobile app. Would you like some help with that?" Aug 09 05:00:26 I was reading up on NSString the other day and it had just the best heartfelt moment at the end Aug 09 05:00:29 I don't blame the reference docs, they be doin' what they gotta do. But I might kick the designer of the IAB api in the nads though Aug 09 05:00:42 ryanm: you're aware of adb lolcat and hell? Aug 09 05:00:50 starting forth by leo brodie would be an excelent example of some well presented beginner documentation. tho its 20+ years out of date its SILL the first place i recommend a forth beginner turn Aug 09 05:00:53 'course I'd just be looking at the puppies, since the docs are pretty easily searchable to find what I need Aug 09 05:00:57 Google documentation is good compared to the reference documents I have to use for my game engine lmao Aug 09 05:01:08 Leeds: I've heard of adb lolcat, never of adb hell Aug 09 05:01:11 JakeWharton: No worries, thank you. I'm being asked: If API 9 is obsolete, surely API 8 is as well. I'm trying to make a convincing argument to the contrary. But I have no official documentation to back me up. :-) Aug 09 05:01:23 oh great, now my terminal is red Aug 09 05:01:32 oh there it does Aug 09 05:01:34 *goes Aug 09 05:01:37 heh Aug 09 05:01:41 aLearner: that depends on your definition of obsolete Aug 09 05:02:12 anything less than API 16 is obsolete in one view Aug 09 05:02:13 ryanm: also, of course, you know about the almost standard easter egg? Aug 09 05:02:37 JakeWharton: We're defining obsolete / deprecated roughly like this "In software, when we say that something is deprecated, we don’t mean that it doesn’t work or isn’t supported. It simply means that new applications should be written to the new version so that one day the old version can be removed without damaging the eco-system." Aug 09 05:03:25 JakeWharton: On of our apps is planned on being written in API 9 - I'm pushing for API 10. Aug 09 05:04:01 I mean, you're not really going to find any insane differences between the two Aug 09 05:04:05 once you've decided to drop 8, I'm not sure there's any significant difference between 9 and 10, unless you specifically need the stuff in 10 Aug 09 05:04:13 It's similar to API 14 and 15 Aug 09 05:05:17 API 8 is where all the fun ones start anyways Aug 09 05:05:22 after that it's mostly boring until you hit 3.2 Aug 09 05:06:00 Leeds, JakeWharton: Thanks. So it's cool if API 9 is used? I thought we should stick to either API 8 or API 10 - but not go with API 9. Aug 09 05:06:37 Leeds: https://github.com/karai17/celestia-radio-android :* Aug 09 05:06:46 aLearner: I think the point is that very very few users are running API 9 on their device Aug 09 05:06:50 aLearner: are you talking about for minSdkVersion or similar? Aug 09 05:07:39 Leeds: All right. That makes sense. Perhaps I should just stick with the dashboard and make my case this way. Thank you. Aug 09 05:07:49 ryanm: Yes, that too. Aug 09 05:08:27 I think I'm just going to go with the fact that a small fraction of users are running API 9. So, that should be case enough. Thank you for the discussion. It was really helpful. Aug 09 05:08:31 I've been targeting 9 ... looking at the logcat I see this: "Turning on JNI app bug workarounds for target SDK version 9...". Hrm. Aug 09 05:09:00 ideally you would be targeting the latest SDK Aug 09 05:10:18 yeah, I agree with Leeds, targetting API 9 is kinda pointless. short version: if you want 95% of users to be able to run your app, make minSdkVersion 8. If you're content with 20%, make it 10. Aug 09 05:10:24 Makes sense. Switching to latest, hopefully the minSdkVersion will warn me if I use anything too new Aug 09 05:10:36 and yeah, ideally targetSdkVersion = 16 Aug 09 05:10:56 SethR: if you use the lint tool it should Aug 09 05:11:54 ryanm: Cool. This is a great way of looking at it. Aug 09 05:12:50 sorry, 80%, not 20% Aug 09 05:13:37 this is what happens when I think about one thing while typing another. Aug 09 05:14:46 ryanm: What you wrote makes a lot of sense. :-) Thank you. Aug 09 05:17:54 heh my app is going to take more than 2 years to complete.... i dont think it matters what i target right now :) Aug 09 05:45:48 mark4: you have a weird obsession with Forth :) Aug 09 05:46:12 romainguy, chuck moore calls it THE software engineering solution Aug 09 05:46:14 i agree Aug 09 05:46:29 it has one major flaw though Aug 09 05:46:36 it will never be accepted by mainstream Aug 09 05:46:41 and it's forth rate Aug 09 05:46:56 a certain moustached individual had a flawed THE solution too Aug 09 05:47:08 ? Aug 09 05:47:16 fumanchu? :) Aug 09 05:47:19 hitler Aug 09 05:47:23 i know Aug 09 05:47:27 thats the FINAL solution Aug 09 05:47:30 not THe solution Aug 09 05:47:43 mark4: the problem is that every time you ask about something Android related here you end up explaining you could be writing a Forth interpreter instead Aug 09 05:47:54 it's not going to get you very far if you're trying to write an app ^^ Aug 09 05:48:03 romainguy, no. its not TOP of my todo Aug 09 05:48:07 its on it tho Aug 09 05:50:35 right now top of my todo list is to catch some z;s after reading some of my bible. too much JD makes me sleepy Aug 09 05:51:00 romainguy, forth is fun btw.... maybe even more fun than java :) Aug 09 05:51:12 Forth is a programming language Aug 09 05:51:16 none of them are fun, they're just tools Aug 09 05:51:26 some are better suited for particular tasks than others Aug 09 05:51:35 forth is fun. if u dont find programming fun u need to switch fields Aug 09 05:51:51 ive never found a task that forth does not excel at Aug 09 05:52:00 mark4: writing Android apps? Aug 09 05:52:03 not in over 25 years of using it Aug 09 05:52:15 ryanm,if i have my way yes Aug 09 05:52:21 just not yet Aug 09 05:53:13 Programming can be fun, the languages themselves are not Aug 09 05:53:32 The fun part is solving problems, not typing Java or C++ or whatever :) Aug 09 05:54:01 romainguy, learn forth. that will change ur mind. Aug 09 05:54:07 I have used Forth Aug 09 05:54:08 what, LOLCODE not funny? Aug 09 05:54:15 and many other languages Aug 09 05:54:24 mark4, how would it make doing anything useful even possible? Aug 09 05:54:37 bjorkintosh, ? Aug 09 05:54:39 but like I said, they're tools Aug 09 05:54:41 with forth. Aug 09 05:54:52 and Forth is just not useful to me for what I do Aug 09 05:54:56 i can just see the latest fart app on ios or android being written in ... forth? Aug 09 05:55:27 bjorkintosh, ask me again tomorrow. im tired, had too much jd and keep getting frustrated with my wifi tether dropping and never giving me full 4g rates Aug 09 05:55:52 wifi tether dropping. must be a bug. Aug 09 05:56:08 : fib 0 1 rot 1+ 1 do tuck + loop nip ; Aug 09 05:56:09 ftw Aug 09 05:56:18 right. Aug 09 05:56:22 everything is a global. Aug 09 05:56:31 no. its my cell tower dropping i think] Aug 09 05:56:44 anyway. i gotta log. im fscked lol Aug 09 05:56:46 nite :) Aug 09 05:57:13 fib does not an android app make! Aug 09 05:57:51 bjorkintosh: any language that lets you write a sort in fewer lines than Java or C++ is obviously better suited at *everything* :)))) Aug 09 05:57:54 Aug 09 05:58:06 riiight. Aug 09 05:58:33 i hate java far more than most, but there really aren't any good options for writing android apps. Aug 09 05:58:46 so i think it is pretty silly to suggest ... forth? Aug 09 05:59:02 why not whitespace? or brainf**? Aug 09 05:59:04 with the right ffi why not. Aug 09 05:59:18 hah. i thought you were asleep. Aug 09 05:59:25 you already said 'nite'. Aug 09 05:59:36 romainguy: android java will adopt java7 and java8 features? Aug 09 06:00:03 deebo: nothing's been announced Aug 09 06:00:31 well i guess you're in no hurry with oracles release pace Aug 09 06:02:28 enterprise and hurry are mutually exclusive, deebo! Aug 09 06:14:43 Good evening all. Can someone suggest why Eclipse reports that the resource referenced here doesn't exist when in fact it does appear in the generated R.java, and ic_menu_login.png exists in the three relevant drawables directories? menu.add(Menu.NONE, 1, 1, "Login").setIcon(android.R.drawable.ic_menu_login); Aug 09 06:15:19 hillct: you don't want android.R, you want your application's R class Aug 09 06:15:48 oh. Geez. It can't be that simple... :) Aug 09 06:15:55 and yet it almost certainly is Aug 09 06:16:35 ryanm: thanks Aug 09 06:38:55 hi! I want to track when an app is installed and I'm setting up an intent for com.android.vending.INSTALL_REFERRER Aug 09 06:39:43 however. this does not seem to happen… my listener is never woken up Aug 09 07:16:04 hey, i want to design my app in photoshop. To create XHDPI layout, what should my screen size and resolution be? (couldn't understand from the design guidlines page) Aug 09 07:16:38 hyotam: XHDPI doesn't tell you anything about screen size or resolution Aug 09 07:17:46 so.... what size should I design for? Aug 09 07:19:56 hyotam: screen sizes are small, normal, large, and xlarge Aug 09 07:20:32 hyotam: have a look at http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html#Screens Aug 09 07:21:57 cool stuff. the limiting thing now for mobile is batteries … http://www.gizmag.com/iron-air-battery/23646/ Aug 09 07:22:55 ryanm: but I dont need to make a different layout to each screen size, or do I? Aug 09 07:24:24 hyotam: you don't necessarily need to, no. have a look at http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html for more details Aug 09 07:24:56 okay thanks Aug 09 07:29:43 in the android sdk update manager, sort by repository is it only necessary to install the google APIs and android repositories... what will i be missing if i dont install all the LG/motorola/htc addons? Aug 09 07:32:25 tech1: nothing much, really, you'll just not have the manufacturer-specific tools Aug 09 07:32:31 I've never used them, personally Aug 09 07:33:25 iv wasted a lot of time trying to install this other crap at a dl speed of 50kb/s lol Aug 09 07:33:57 ill make a fresh sdk then and only install the google stuff.... is the intel atom x86 image important? Aug 09 07:34:00 is there any recommended literature for the platform outside of developer.android.com Aug 09 07:34:32 tech1: not really. There are some uses for it but you'd probably know if you needed it Aug 09 07:34:45 ok thanks Aug 09 07:36:15 preds: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/ is a good one, as are the Android Google I/O talks. This year's are at: https://developers.google.com/events/io/sessions#android Aug 09 07:36:43 thanks ryanm Aug 09 07:36:53 though the talks aren't exactly literature :-) Aug 09 07:37:05 as long as they're practical they're probably better :) Aug 09 07:37:12 holds my attention a bit longer Aug 09 07:37:16 they are indeed Aug 09 07:46:05 I've had a image converted to Base64 string (to be transfered to server via a WS call). Now I want to compress/zip either the Image bytes or the Base64 string so that bandwidth usage saved. Where should I put the compression code: compress the Image obj then do Base64, or do Base64 then apply compression to the string? Aug 09 07:47:16 why are you doing Base64 if you can then compress it? Aug 09 07:47:53 Is it possible to make a placeholder? I want two views to share the excact same position, one of them visiable at a time.. Aug 09 07:48:47 nvm, it was easier than I thought.. Aug 09 07:50:06 ryanm: because the whole images then need to be inside another bigger string (xml) Aug 09 07:50:57 can you have arbitrary bytes in the string? Aug 09 07:51:25 How can i redirect all the urls to open in my current webview ? Aug 09 07:51:44 I've read that it is safe to put base64 string in xml Aug 09 07:53:17 hoangtran: in that case you need to compress it then do base64, as if you base64 then compress you will not have a base64 string any more Aug 09 07:53:32 dragon_flam: you need a WebViewClient. see https://developer.android.com/guide/webapps/webview.html#HandlingNavigation Aug 09 07:54:25 ryanm: ah, good point, thank you. Aug 09 07:54:41 np Aug 09 07:56:34 btw, I get the byte array from the Bitmap object with this: b.compress(Bitmap.CompressFormat.PNG, 100, byteArrayOutputStream); // b is my Bitmap obj Aug 09 07:58:15 does this .compress realy reduce the size, and if it does, will another compression (gzip for ex) help reducing the end result string? Aug 09 08:01:32 1) Yes, PNG compression will almost certainly reduce the size 2) Compressing it again is unlikely to help, as PNG is already compressed with DEFLATE (same algorithm as zlib) Aug 09 08:18:16 anyone have good reference links for using Android w/ robotics? I'm trying to take a peek at the subject to see if it interests me Aug 09 08:18:44 google for the adk Aug 09 08:18:48 sounds cool Aug 09 08:21:15 thanks Aug 09 08:25:53 ryanm: much thanks. Aug 09 08:29:11 <[emil]> hi, I was doing a simple image loading app using AsyncTask. It shows a Error opening file:no such file or directory(2) error. What exactly does it mean and what causes it? Aug 09 08:29:14 <[emil]> http://pastebin.com/LDiPVxFg Aug 09 08:31:37 growing tired of assigning IDs to all kinds of stuff all the time.. wouldn't it be cool if you could use an xpath-expression to adress an element in the XML definition of a view? Aug 09 08:33:24 <[emil]> I'll rephrase it I was doing a simple image loading app using AsyncTask. It shows a Error opening trace file:No such file or directory(2) error. What exactly does it mean and what causes it? I have enabled all the required permissions. Aug 09 08:33:36 <[emil]> http://pastebin.com/LDiPVxFg Aug 09 08:33:44 [emil]: your path is probably wrong Aug 09 08:34:18 <[emil]> tapas, I was downloading image from a url Aug 09 08:34:37 <[emil]> It is a small piece of code. Pls look into to Aug 09 08:34:43 <[emil]> *it Aug 09 08:35:17 [emil]: give us backtrace, please, too Aug 09 08:35:53 or try this: Aug 09 08:35:55 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/graphics/BitmapFactory.html#decodeStream%28java.io.InputStream,%20android.graphics.Rect,%20android.graphics.BitmapFactory.Options%29 Aug 09 08:36:14 http://imgur.com/jacoj <--- we even have it as topic! Aug 09 08:36:33 iv.setBitmapImage(ImageFactory.decodeStream(stream)) Aug 09 08:36:51 iv.setBitmapImage(ImageFactory.decodeStream(stream, null, null)) Aug 09 08:36:55 argh Aug 09 08:36:58 and BitmapFactory Aug 09 08:37:01 you get my drift Aug 09 08:40:47 <[emil]> is that the way to display images. I got my piece of code from http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3601775/display-image-from-url-sizing-and-screen-orientation-problems. and he doenst seem to have any problem with trace file Aug 09 08:42:25 <[emil]> tapas, is that the way to display images. I got my piece of code from http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3601775/display-image-from-url-sizing-and-screen-orientation-problems. and he doenst seem to have any problem with trace file Aug 09 08:50:03 [emil]: you didn't show us your trace yet Aug 09 08:51:32 <[emil]> tapas, sorry, by trace it meant the message displayed in the logCat rt? Aug 09 08:53:01 <[emil]> tapas, The error is cleared. I returned the Drawable from the doInBackground function instead of Object. It works fine now. :) Aug 09 09:02:53 Hey guys, I'm trying to make a Gallery widget using HorizontalScrollView since Gallery is deprecated.. Is anyone familiar with this widget? Aug 09 09:20:16 Omar: wow Gallery got depricated! Aug 09 09:20:26 yup = Aug 09 09:20:31 Looks like I have been away from Android for a long time Aug 09 09:21:07 yea its weird why such a widget would get deprecated =\ Aug 09 09:22:09 i did not like galary :P Aug 09 09:23:07 using adb to start an intent (e.g. adb shell am start -a android.intent.action.MAIN -n com.android.contacts/.ExportVCardActivity) which opens a confirmation dialog. any way to avoid that dialog and make it go directly? Aug 09 09:26:34 samael: must be an option with adb.. Aug 09 09:28:44 samael, dragon_flam: i think once you get bash 'adb shell' its just a normal shell command, so any gui confirmation you get on the device is out of adb's control Aug 09 09:28:49 get past* Aug 09 09:32:37 hi there Aug 09 09:33:04 ok, not a big problem, i can easily use a couple input keyevents to confirm automatically. Aug 09 09:33:05 hey guys! I need a Button to be enabled in order to retrieve onTouch Events but I also need it to be sometimes disabled so that the drawable states work correct. any suggestions how to get this working without introducing subclass of Button? Aug 09 09:34:46 but then, how can i know from adb that the called activity has been terminated? Aug 09 09:35:06 does anyone use Google Analytics in their apps ? I'm having a hard time trying to find where most of my downloads come from ? In traffic sources it shows a campaign called appcenter_ads with a medium of hyperlink and a source of go_launcher, could anyone help me please ? there is no information anywhere about this campaign Aug 09 09:35:48 hi Aug 09 09:36:45 hello I am getting this error - > Authentication error: Unable to respond to any of these challenges: {} Aug 09 09:36:51 & 401 status code Aug 09 09:36:58 how to solve this? Aug 09 09:37:30 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6114455/authentication-error-when-using-httppost-with-defaulthttpclient-on-android?lq=1 Aug 09 09:37:31 I have checked this link Aug 09 09:37:42 but still facing the erro Aug 09 09:37:47 error Aug 09 09:38:30 Ehh Aug 09 09:38:38 Are you actually sending credentials, then? Aug 09 09:38:47 Yes Aug 09 09:38:59 I am sending Username & Password Aug 09 09:39:06 How? Aug 09 09:39:22 manit_android_am: but is that how the server expects you to authenticate? Aug 09 09:39:45 DefaultHttpClient client = new DefaultHttpClient(); Credentials creds = new UsernamePasswordCredentials("username", "password"); client.getCredentialsProvider().setCredentials(new AuthScope(AuthScope.ANY_HOST, AuthScope.ANY_PORT), creds); HttpPost post = new HttpPost(url); Aug 09 09:39:50 here is the code Aug 09 09:40:08 manit_android_am: I assume you don't actually use "username" and "password" when authenticating? Aug 09 09:40:15 hmm, what happens if you return "null" for getView() in a ListAdapter? Aug 09 09:41:15 Mavrik: try it? But I suspect it'll throw a nullpointer exception somewhere. Aug 09 09:41:28 I'm hunting a wierd corner case in my app :\ Aug 09 09:41:30 I have also have another app in Phonegap-Android - in that when I post ajax request , it works perfectly Aug 09 09:41:48 no need of username and password for phonegap with same server Aug 09 09:42:09 but Native Android Java gives 401 Aug 09 09:42:23 manit_android_am: no, it is the server that responds with 401 Aug 09 09:42:32 Yes Aug 09 09:42:50 It must not be sending the same request, then. Aug 09 09:43:23 the server gives 401 in case of Native Android Java code , but with phonegap android request the same server works perfectly Aug 09 09:43:48 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11878896/authentication-error-unable-to-respond-to-any-of-these-challenges-android Aug 09 09:43:48 manit_android_am: obviously the same request is not sent then as HDroid wrote Aug 09 09:44:10 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11878896/authentication-error-unable-to-respond-to-any-of-these-challenges-android this is the link on which I have posted my code Aug 09 09:44:37 appel1 : means? Aug 09 09:45:05 manit_android_am: you need to figure out what is different Aug 09 09:45:11 should I change request method? Aug 09 09:45:29 We don't know, what does the server need? Aug 09 09:45:45 Do whatever phonegap does :) Aug 09 09:47:23 Yes doing the same as per the phonegap request ... sending the same data using android JAVA ... but it gave 401 ... so I tried with username & password ... but still gives 401 Aug 09 09:47:28 Maybe it's a put? We don't know. Aug 09 09:48:00 but phonegap app works perfect , native android doesn't Aug 09 09:48:05 put? Aug 09 09:48:09 lets try that Aug 09 09:48:37 If you have the phonegap app's source, surely you know whether what http method it is supposed to use? Aug 09 09:48:57 Yes Aug 09 09:49:38 bah. android has chinese font for kanji's :( Aug 09 09:49:47 I am just simple doing ajax request with POST Aug 09 09:50:02 in phonegap. Aug 09 09:50:04 manit_android_am: have you looked at the reason phrase in the response? Aug 09 09:50:11 manit_android_am: perhaps that can give you a clue? Aug 09 09:51:16 manit_android_am: or does the response have any content? Just guessing since I don't know what Drupal does. Aug 09 09:51:18 No I haven't looked at it Aug 09 09:51:55 ok, in case anyone knows... I'm using Analytics in an Android application and I'm seeing a campaign that is unkown to me in the reports. Most of my downloads come from that campaign so I would like to know the origin. The campaign is called "appcenter_ads" Aug 09 09:52:40 Seems to me that when I set a onclicklistener, the button can be spammed and the listener-method executing is re-run. Can I fix this by defining it as synchronized? Aug 09 09:53:13 Nvm... Aug 09 09:53:28 no Aug 09 09:53:37 By searching on google I have found this official android link -> it suggest that developer should use HttpURLConnection for making http request , while I am using Apache HTTP Client ... http://android-developers.blogspot.in/2011/09/androids-http-clients.html Aug 09 09:53:48