**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 28 03:00:03 2012
Aug 28 03:02:53 <praveen> Hello.
Aug 28 03:03:01 <praveen> I am looking for help on ADB
Aug 28 03:03:17 <praveen> I am trying to push using ADB to multiple devices simultaneously
Aug 28 03:03:45 <praveen> but ADB seems to only detect 4 devices eventhough I have a USB hub capable of supporting 32
Aug 28 03:03:59 <praveen> is there a limit to how many instances of ADB there can be?
Aug 28 03:05:32 <Bink> IIRC, you can do ADB over IP
Aug 28 03:06:20 <praveen> sorry I dont quite understand
Aug 28 03:06:52 <Leeds> you could use a network connection rather than USB
Aug 28 03:07:02 <praveen> is that more stable somehow?
Aug 28 03:07:48 <Bink> might make more sense versus connecting lots of devices to a hub
Aug 28 03:08:14 <praveen> but anyone know the limit to how many instances of ADB you can use?
Aug 28 03:08:45 <praveen> *sorry. not use. what i meant is how many instances of ADB can be active at the same time
Aug 28 03:08:56 <praveen> is there a difference between ADB running on linux and windows?
Aug 28 03:09:15 <praveen> preferabbly i would like windows since it is already set up but if need be, linux
Aug 28 03:10:00 <Leeds> funny, windows
Aug 28 03:10:28 <praveen> lol, i didnt set this up
Aug 28 03:10:34 <praveen> im just trying to work with what i have
Aug 28 03:10:39 <clever> praveen: from what i understand, 1 instance of adb can connect to multiple devices
Aug 28 03:11:06 <clever> just run adb help and read it
Aug 28 03:11:12 <clever> look for the connect and devices commands
Aug 28 03:11:22 <Mechdave> I am trying to do this --> http://pastebin.com/vmhBxESn essentially replace normal text with "glowing" text
Aug 28 03:14:03 <edwinkcw> Do I need to setup the ask in order to make goggle campaign tracking works? in the doc, I don't know where to put the api
Aug 28 03:15:46 <Leeds> edwinkcw: I don't think many people here use google analytics, so if you keep asking the same questions, you won't get much of an answer...
Aug 28 03:16:08 <edwinkcw> Leeds: ok…I may contact google
Aug 28 03:20:47 <praveen> clever: will do. thanks
Aug 28 03:21:11 <praveen> but generally, linux will be better than windows for ADB?
Aug 28 03:21:25 <Leeds> s/for ADB//
Aug 28 03:23:17 <praveen> Leeds: huh?
Aug 28 03:29:13 <hkhalid> hello
Aug 28 03:35:15 <T-Dub> I have a string called helloDude
Aug 28 03:35:26 <T-Dub> I want to set the value of helloDude to a variable
Aug 28 03:35:41 <T-Dub> so I did public string hiMan = R.string.helloDude;
Aug 28 03:35:45 <T-Dub> but it's saying it's an int, not a string.
Aug 28 03:35:50 <T-Dub> Which I understand that it is.
Aug 28 03:35:58 <T-Dub> Is there a method to get the string value?
Aug 28 03:40:19 <hkhalid> String string = getString(R.string.hello);
Aug 28 03:40:46 <hkhalid> wangsta
Aug 28 03:40:52 <Leeds> http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/resources/accessing-resources.html
Aug 28 03:40:55 <Leeds> read the bloody docs
Aug 28 03:45:20 <T-Dub> Thanks guys
Aug 28 03:46:45 <Lil_ole_Me> Have a question about setting up a merchant account
Aug 28 03:48:01 <Lil_ole_Me> Can you change your business name later on after you've completed setup?
Aug 28 03:48:02 <Leeds> Lil_ole_Me: you'll need to ask that there question before anyone can make a stab at... either at you, or at answering it
Aug 28 03:48:37 <Leeds> ah, you mean your developer name? yes
Aug 28 03:49:13 <Leeds> erm, play developer name, or wallet merchant name?
Aug 28 03:49:25 <Lil_ole_Me> And edit website to, since i don't have one yet?
Aug 28 03:50:04 <Leeds> if you mean your play store account, yes, you can change that stuff
Aug 28 03:50:16 <Lil_ole_Me> Public contact info, business name, co. Website
Aug 28 03:50:28 <g00s> where did readme go to :|
Aug 28 03:54:54 <canadiancow> anyone wanna buy a car?
Aug 28 03:55:27 <canadiancow> [23:39:51] <Leeds> read the bloody docs
Aug 28 03:55:32 <canadiancow> rtbd doesnt have quite the ring to it
Aug 28 03:55:35 <canadiancow> as rtfm
Aug 28 03:55:41 <Leeds> more British though
Aug 28 03:56:18 <g00s> canadiancow: its crazy, but i think i remember you buying the car in 2010 or 11 ?
Aug 28 03:56:53 <g00s> btw, this is the puppy that reminds all to RTFM http://i.imgur.com/NrnIL.jpg
Aug 28 03:58:34 <g00s> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2012/082712-ipad-261956.html
Aug 28 03:59:09 <g00s> google , patent !
Aug 28 03:59:09 <Leeds> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Aug 28 03:59:20 <g00s> hehe, i had 2 patent ideas today :D
Aug 28 04:00:49 <g00s> i have to find those orange glasses - read about them before
Aug 28 04:04:10 <hkhalid> I got  tabhost layout, one tab has a list of button to play mediaplayers, if I go to another tab and try to play a video, the mediaplayer is still playing and I cant stop it unless I make it global, is that correct?
Aug 28 04:54:31 <g00s> heh, no way i'm paying $10 to rent a movie in itunes, wat da fuq
Aug 28 05:05:14 <JakeWharton> your off topic meter is consistently cranked to eleven
Aug 28 05:06:33 <g00s> everything i do is cranked to 11
Aug 28 05:07:07 <Leeds> speaking of which, I wonder what happened to the gay porn floods we used to get every now and again
Aug 28 05:07:16 <g00s> O.o
Aug 28 05:08:11 <JakeWharton> the java 7 docs look like their an MSDN site
Aug 28 05:08:17 <JakeWharton> they're
Aug 28 05:08:52 <JakeWharton> and the java 6 docs look like they're from 1994
Aug 28 05:09:25 <g00s> fitting
Aug 28 05:10:17 <JakeWharton> lacking any semblance of search
Aug 28 05:10:52 <JakeWharton> typical java developers, spitting out static HTML and shrugging their hands in the air
Aug 28 05:42:55 <totic> How do I check if a broadcast receiver has been registered?
Aug 28 05:43:48 <brownballa55> you send a broadcast and put a breakpoint inside your listener
Aug 28 05:43:51 <brownballa55> or a log
Aug 28 05:44:30 <totic> I mean programatically
Aug 28 05:45:07 <brownballa55> has anyone used GCM? I've been trying to get it to work with my app but it gets stuck after the onrecieve of com.google.android.gcm.GCMBroadcastReceiver gets called
Aug 28 05:45:27 <totic> brownballa55: queryBroadcastReceivers thought would do it but now luck
Aug 28 05:45:28 <brownballa55> im not sure if you can programmatically but why wouldnt a log inside your broadcast listener work?
Aug 28 05:45:30 <totic> no*
Aug 28 05:45:57 <totic> brownballa55: because I want some other piece of code to test it.. its not for me...
Aug 28 05:46:14 <brownballa55> oh
Aug 28 05:46:46 <Markos> android emulator just suddenly started segfaulting when i create a new activity and access the file system
Aug 28 05:46:51 <Markos> how bizzare
Aug 28 05:47:16 <Markos> even more bizzare, it works fine if i disable gpu emulation and/or don't access the file system in the new activity
Aug 28 05:48:07 <Markos> specifically 4.0.3, jb and gb are unaffected
Aug 28 05:48:20 <Markos> odd because it was working fine for weeks, must have been some software upgrade
Aug 28 05:48:26 <Markos> curses
Aug 28 06:06:39 <Aerosonic> Guys, is there any good VPS hosting on the west coast of USA?
Aug 28 06:11:29 <g00s> totic: its not possible
Aug 28 06:11:41 <totic> g00s thanks
Aug 28 06:25:57 <g00s> wow, someone ported JB to the original droid
Aug 28 06:26:02 <g00s> \o/
Aug 28 06:28:20 <Aerosonic> g00s: That shit must be slow as fuck
Aug 28 06:28:32 <g00s> http://phandroid.com/2012/08/27/original-motorola-droid-gets-new-life-with-functional-jelly-bean-rom-video/
Aug 28 06:28:33 <Aerosonic> I barely run CM7 on that bitch, I can only imagine what JB does to it.
Aug 28 06:28:43 <g00s> they said it wasn't so bad, but yeah 256 mb
Aug 28 06:29:48 <g00s> it actually looks smoother than froyo from the video
Aug 28 06:30:06 <wabz> doesn't look too bad in that vid at all
Aug 28 06:30:23 <wabz> launching stuff is kinda slow, but things like animations/swiping look really smooth
Aug 28 06:30:35 <g00s> yeah
Aug 28 06:31:20 <wabz> e.g. that settings listview scrolling is really smooth
Aug 28 06:31:35 <wabz> far better than a modern samsung device on gingerbread
Aug 28 06:31:59 <Aerosonic> g00s: I remember ICS was ported to G1.
Aug 28 06:32:37 <Aerosonic> I can't wait for JB to be ported to that old cunt.
Aug 28 06:33:22 <g00s> hehe
Aug 28 06:33:38 <g00s> i guess now i don't have to get a n7 XD
Aug 28 06:35:22 <eSatsu> hm, is there some good layout element to indicate a number between 0 to 5
Aug 28 06:35:26 <eSatsu> kind of like rating style
Aug 28 06:36:01 <eSatsu> not exactly ratingbar or seekbar
Aug 28 06:36:33 <eSatsu> anything similar or should i just create a customstyle for one of those
Aug 28 06:36:52 <eSatsu> youre not supposed to be able to adjust the value yourself, i just want a cooler layout for indicating a number from 0 to 5
Aug 28 06:41:03 <Pitel_laptop> When do release build, the code is obfuscated. My question is, what bout crash logs users will send? Will I be able to see in which method on which line the crash happened?
Aug 28 06:43:18 <Pitel_laptop> https://developer.android.com/tools/help/proguard.html#decoding nevermind :)
Aug 28 06:57:58 <KirinDave> Does anyone here have any experience with custom account types? I've got some questions about what I really need vs. what the docs suggest I do.
Aug 28 06:58:56 <KirinDave> Specifically, do I really need a custom implementation authenticator service? How should that service call out to UI if it is needful, just via kicking off an intent for a result if it needs new credentials?
Aug 28 07:03:28 <coellobranco> saludos
Aug 28 07:48:11 <hemanshu> Guys, I've seen some MDM vendors claiming they do device encryption
Aug 28 07:48:24 <hemanshu> is there any way to encrypt sdcard as of now ?
Aug 28 07:57:33 <hemanshu> so it looks like S2 and S3 do have something in the name of sdcard encryption is it a native android feature?
Aug 28 08:01:04 <g00s> has anyone been able to get more than one RFCOMM BT connection at the same time ?
Aug 28 08:26:54 <woozly> Guys, how to make widget width maximized? I mean, I need to make widget, which fill all width of screen
Aug 28 09:04:17 <mms_> Hi I am doing client server and have doubt on activity code which when sends a message to server gets the message delivered to itself instead
Aug 28 09:04:36 <HDroid> Hmm that is peculiar, heh.
Aug 28 09:08:52 <linuxuz3r> hi
Aug 28 09:09:02 <linuxuz3r> should i get a tablet now
Aug 28 09:09:23 <Leeds> yes, immediately!
Aug 28 09:09:50 <linuxuz3r> leeds can you suggest a good one
Aug 28 09:10:02 <Leeds> N7
Aug 28 09:10:11 <linuxuz3r> too small
Aug 28 09:10:43 <Leeds> thrive 13"
Aug 28 09:10:55 <SimonVT> asus tf700
Aug 28 09:11:02 <SimonVT> Is awesome
Aug 28 09:11:15 <linuxuz3r> does gps works?
Aug 28 09:11:20 <linuxuz3r> on tf700
Aug 28 09:11:23 <HDroid> I'm at a point where I'd seriously advice against anything Samsung.
Aug 28 09:11:30 <HDroid> As far as tablets are concerned.
Aug 28 09:12:02 <SimonVT> I have no idea if the gps works
Aug 28 09:12:10 <SimonVT> It's a tablet.. I use it for tablet-y stuff, not navigation
Aug 28 09:12:18 <spacepluk> HDroid: why?
Aug 28 09:12:37 <g00s_> i haven't heard of any nexus - 10 rumors lately
Aug 28 09:12:45 <linuxuz3r> maybe you could try
Aug 28 09:12:59 <HDroid> spacepluk: the tab 2 series is a disappointment on specs, and they seriously pissed me off with the tab 10.1 and 8.9 upgrade path.
Aug 28 09:13:20 <HDroid> Also their shell around Android isn't that great
Aug 28 09:14:06 <HDroid> Which all would have been ok if they weren't asking premium prices.
Aug 28 09:14:42 <HDroid> I'll probably try Asus' offerings (and get an N7) but they have me leaning towards an ipad right now.
Aug 28 09:15:22 <spacepluk> yeah, the ipad is nice, but apple sucks
Aug 28 09:15:33 <Jak_o_Shadows> ipad is slick enough, but the whole developing thing is a pain
Aug 28 09:15:51 <HDroid> Tab 10.1's jerkiness in ICS is worse than on honeycomb and I'm getting all sorts of artifacts, and I'm not confident that Samsung will ever release a firmware update for this device again.
Aug 28 09:16:02 <HDroid> In the meantime my 8.9 tab still hasn't even updated.
Aug 28 09:16:27 <spacepluk> I'm leaning towards the N7 but I haven't settled yet
Aug 28 09:16:31 <spacepluk> HDroid: thanks for the summary :)
Aug 28 09:17:04 <HDroid> I'm getting an N7 for sure if it becomes available here, but the size will make it a secondary device to a fullsize tab for me.
Aug 28 09:17:17 <g00s> i thought from this court stuff going on, it became apparent that samsung hasn't sold shit in the way of tablets; they probably abandoned the damn things
Aug 28 09:17:30 <SimonVT> I tried a 7" tablet.. Not my thing
Aug 28 09:17:32 <g00s> i mean, on one level any how
Aug 28 09:17:48 <SimonVT> I just think "large phone" instead of tablet
Aug 28 09:17:50 <HDroid> g00s: hm, the tabs sold decently... nowhere near ipad numbers, but still.
Aug 28 09:17:51 <Mavrik> I'm wondering why ASUS isn't selling 32GB TF700Ts outside US :\
Aug 28 09:18:10 <g00s> HDroid: i thought they were 1/10 of what was 'pushed' to stores
Aug 28 09:18:34 <spacepluk> this would be my first tablet so I don't know what I like best yet, heheh.. But I find the ipad too heavy
Aug 28 09:18:35 <Leeds> I think there was some mixup between global sales and US sales, wasn't there?
Aug 28 09:18:36 <g00s> whatever #s were originally floating around were what was sitting in the supply chain
Aug 28 09:18:37 <HDroid> Maybe in US?
Aug 28 09:19:29 <HDroid> spacepluk: yeah it is, kind of... I find that my 8.9 is much more convenient to hold. But on the other hand, the 10.1 inch screen size does make a difference for me when browsing, etc.
Aug 28 09:20:10 <HDroid> And I rarely take either out of the house... hoping I'll take the N7 with me on the road.
Aug 28 09:20:48 <HDroid> I might even slap a second N7 on the wall as a home automation controller.
Aug 28 09:21:31 <g00s> from this, samsung sold 1.43 million android tablets since q4 2010
Aug 28 09:21:45 <g00s> which, blows chunks
Aug 28 09:21:49 <HDroid> US or global?
Aug 28 09:22:01 <g00s> seems globasl
Aug 28 09:22:03 <g00s> *global
Aug 28 09:22:09 <HDroid> Hm hard to imagine
Aug 28 09:22:20 <HDroid> I see too many of them in the wild for that.
Aug 28 09:22:49 <g00s> they did much better whith their phones :)
Aug 28 09:22:55 <HDroid> Definitely
Aug 28 09:23:56 <Jak_o_Shadows> i'm slightly disappointed with the android phone market. HTC has dropped off on high-end, but on the other hand, huawei have got low end covered
Aug 28 09:24:42 <g00s> HDroid: this is where i got those #s btw http://allthingsd.com/20120809/apple-vs-samsung-trial-forces-companies-to-open-up-the-books/
Aug 28 09:24:43 <HDroid> I dunno, I have an HTC One X, it can definitely compete with the SIII (and, though I'm probably biased, it's probably the better phone)
Aug 28 09:25:03 <HDroid> g00s: ooh thanks
Aug 28 09:25:13 <Jak_o_Shadows> Yeah, but looking a little lower down the chain, what do you have?
Aug 28 09:25:21 <HDroid> One S :)
Aug 28 09:25:42 <Snuffel> HDroid: how is your wifi?
Aug 28 09:25:44 <HDroid> But yeah, HTC is probably the only one left.
Aug 28 09:25:54 <g00s> htc isn't doing so well
Aug 28 09:26:02 <HDroid> Snuffel: fine for the most part, haven't encountered the "squeeze bug" at all.
Aug 28 09:26:07 <g00s> and their phone was pretty kick ass
Aug 28 09:26:23 <HDroid> Yes, it's a strange phenomenon.
Aug 28 09:26:44 <HDroid> I have no idea why the SIII sells so massively better than the Ones.
Aug 28 09:26:45 <Snuffel> HDroid: I am still pondering whether I should get mine checked or not, such a hassle. I lose connections sometimes, but squeezing doesn't help
Aug 28 09:27:08 <Snuffel> HDroid: resetting the wifi does, though, so I just do that then
Aug 28 09:27:43 <HDroid> Snuffel: only issue I have (which seems to be more of an Android issue, since my SII did it as well) is that when I move out of a wifi zone, it sometimes takes 5-10 minutes before it switches to mobile.
Aug 28 09:28:23 <HDroid> But other times it's instant.
Aug 28 09:28:50 <HDroid> Mine had a flickering display when I bought it but firmware upgrades fixed that completely.
Aug 28 09:31:00 <HDroid> I really like what they did with Sense, it's much better than it used to be.
Aug 28 09:32:05 <Sicp> I'm looking for a way to save to android_assets/somewhere
Aug 28 09:32:21 <Sicp> I download a file from the Internet with my app and I don't want to save it to the sdcard
Aug 28 09:32:45 <Leeds> ho hum, read the bloody docs
Aug 28 09:32:47 <Leeds> http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/data-storage.html
Aug 28 09:32:54 <Sicp> I am on that page
Aug 28 09:33:02 <Sicp> but I didn't scroll down, sorry
Aug 28 09:33:08 <Sicp> I preferred to ask here first
Aug 28 09:34:22 <Leeds> hopefully it's a small file you want to save
Aug 28 09:34:33 <Sicp> no, it's videos
Aug 28 09:35:04 <Leeds> then don't do that
Aug 28 09:35:15 <Leeds> put it on external storage, handle the case where it's not available
Aug 28 09:35:43 <Sicp> you see the app downloads videos when the users pays for the video and I don't want the video to be available to the user in a way that they can copy it and distribute it
Aug 28 09:35:52 <Leeds> bong! wrong
Aug 28 09:35:58 <Sicp> it isn't the way I would do it, but I am working on something for someone else
Aug 28 09:36:01 <Sicp> of course it's wrong
Aug 28 09:36:06 <Leeds> don't do it
Aug 28 09:36:07 <Sicp> but what can you suggest to work around it
Aug 28 09:36:09 <Leeds> it don't do
Aug 28 09:36:12 <Leeds> don't it do
Aug 28 09:36:15 <Sicp> loll
Aug 28 09:36:19 <Leeds> put the video on the SD card, live with it
Aug 28 09:36:33 <Leeds> encrypt it if you think anyone is going to care enough to rip it off
Aug 28 09:36:45 <SimonVT> 1. root 2. some devices doesn't have a lot of internal memory
Aug 28 09:37:21 <Leeds> the reasons are as my esteemed virtual colleague has enumerated
Aug 28 09:37:23 <mms_> on emulater on left half there is number pad...how to hide it since its taking half of the area and not rendering my controls
Aug 28 09:37:37 <Sicp> lol Leeds
Aug 28 09:37:39 <Sicp> quite eloquent
Aug 28 09:37:54 <Sicp> the guy I'm telling this to isn't getting it..the app is crap to begin with anyways
Aug 28 09:38:11 <Sicp> and he isn't selling anything specific in the app, it's just video clips..random content
Aug 28 09:38:26 <Leeds> I *hope* they're his video clips
Aug 28 09:38:33 <Sicp> they are, yea
Aug 28 09:38:50 <Sicp> it's 2012, who's going to download an app just to pay for random video clips that will already exist on youtube or on the internet
Aug 28 09:38:59 <Sicp> I wouldn't, and I'm the one writing it\
Aug 28 09:39:26 <Leeds> well, make your objections known, take the cash, and make sure you're not the one responsible for customer/technical support
Aug 28 09:39:34 <SimonVT> Security through ignorance :p
Aug 28 09:40:24 <spacepluk> has anybody tried luaj on android?
Aug 28 09:44:29 <amews_aj-work> Where is the best place to ask about HTML rendering issues in the default Android browser ?
Aug 28 09:47:10 <g00s> amews_aj-work: have you seen the sencha scorecard? if you are having any issues, you may compare notes with what theh have observed
Aug 28 09:47:29 <g00s> pre ics it was pretty horrible compliance wise. html4/5
Aug 28 09:47:43 <g00s> its gotten much better in jb
Aug 28 09:48:10 <Leeds> but most vendor builds have their own modified browsers, chrome is... chrome... etc
Aug 28 09:50:44 <amews_aj-work> It's the default browser on samsung galaxy tab 10.1
Aug 28 09:51:06 <mms_> I have ListView and in it I add strings then it displays as text and radio button.  I select a button and then do getSelectedItem it return null.
Aug 28 09:55:08 <SimonVT> You probably have to use CHOICE_MODE_SINGLE
Aug 28 09:57:46 <edwinkcw> hello, I have a question about sliding drawer. Can I specify the animation duration of the drawer? I think it is too fast for me
Aug 28 10:07:53 <eSatsu> I cant get the camera intent to save the image. Im creating a new file and putting the uri of the file into the intent, but after i finish taking the picture the picture is not saved in that file
Aug 28 10:09:47 <eSatsu> can anyone help me
Aug 28 10:09:53 <Snuffel> no
Aug 28 10:09:55 <Snuffel> i mean hi
Aug 28 10:10:09 <mik12> hi
Aug 28 10:26:26 <SoulEdge> can someone help me please? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12123220/infinity-and-continuos-image-slide
Aug 28 10:27:30 <drcode> hi all
Aug 28 10:27:39 <drcode> how can I grab screen in android
Aug 28 10:27:49 <drcode> into framebuffer?
Aug 28 10:28:26 <ixc> SoulEdge: use 2 view; one actual image and next image
Aug 28 10:30:42 <ixc> so u can reuse these views
Aug 28 10:31:03 <ixc> if you out of images, just go to ur list begining
Aug 28 10:36:09 <SoulEdge> ixc: the image is the same; I need just to "scroll", to "slide" image from right to left in a continous and infinite way
Aug 28 10:36:20 <SoulEdge> and without interruption
Aug 28 10:37:00 <SimonVT> You probably need a custom view to handle that
Aug 28 10:37:01 <mik12> hi, i was able to crosscompile libcurl with ssl-support, so i have libcurl.so, libcrypto.so and libssl.so. i'm using curl in the native-part of my application and everything works fine (ndk-build, libs are in the apk, ...) until i want to load libcurl via System.loadLibrary("curl") in the java-code.
Aug 28 10:37:15 <mik12> ava.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Cannot load library: reloc_library[1314]:   152 cannot locate 'ENGINE_get_next'...
Aug 28 10:37:32 <mik12> sure, before i load libcurl, i'm loading libssl and libcrypto
Aug 28 10:39:28 <SoulEdge> SimonVT: I've already a custom view "scroll", "slide", image with touch
Aug 28 10:39:38 <SoulEdge> can that help me?
Aug 28 10:39:43 <SimonVT> I have no idea
Aug 28 10:39:57 <woozly> Guys, how to make widget, which fits on screen and fill all width of screen?
Aug 28 10:40:03 <SoulEdge> could you please explain me with words what I need?
Aug 28 10:40:14 <SoulEdge> some keywords...to search with google
Aug 28 10:41:48 <SimonVT> I have no idea what to google for
Aug 28 10:41:59 <SimonVT> But you need to learn how to draw a drawable in your view
Aug 28 10:42:03 <SimonVT> Then how to animate it
Aug 28 10:42:12 <SimonVT> So.. google that
Aug 28 10:52:26 <mephju> hi. I have created a custom home screen and mit it a home screen activity in the manifest. When I press the home button the phone asks me to choose the right app. Launcher2 vs. MyOwnLauncher..  What I want is that my app is started without any user intervention. Is it possible?
Aug 28 10:53:18 <mephju> 'made it a home screen activity'..
Aug 28 10:57:05 <g00s> i wonder what patent this would be http://www.androidpit.com/google-vs-apple-android
Aug 28 11:01:11 <mms_> initially my textview text and its laid out in linearlayout horiz so may be other label take the area but when I add some text to the label it does not show up in screen.  how do I render it visible ?
Aug 28 11:01:50 <mms_> s/initially my testvew text/initially my textview text is empty
Aug 28 11:02:33 <mms_> should I use "        " as placeholder ?
Aug 28 11:06:50 <SimonVT> mephju: The user has to press home and then select yours as default
Aug 28 11:09:37 <mikedg> i have been neglecting my children of this channel
Aug 28 11:09:39 <mikedg> i am sorry
Aug 28 11:09:55 <Pitel_laptop> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10163763/aysnctask-cancelling-itself-still-calls-onpostexecute any idea about this? I am calling cancel(true) in doInBackground(), because I get an exception, and the onCancelled() method is not called, but onPostExecute() is. Wtf? Android 2.3.5, ICS and JB works as expected.
Aug 28 11:10:28 <mikedg> i would like a new phone
Aug 28 11:12:33 <SimonVT> Pitel_laptop: Maybe it's just broken on 2.2
Aug 28 11:12:37 <SimonVT> Or they changed the implementation
Aug 28 11:13:14 <SimonVT> Either way, I'm not sure what the question is.. Since you know it happens, work around it
Aug 28 11:13:14 <Pitel_laptop> hmm, calling cancel(false) instead fo true seems to "fix" it.
Aug 28 11:13:42 <g00s> Pitel_laptop: cancel is mostly bogus anyhow
Aug 28 11:14:42 <g00s> all it really does is call FutureTasj.cancel(), which is also bogus
Aug 28 11:14:52 <g00s> its bogus all the way down :)
Aug 28 11:20:43 <g00s> Pitel_laptop: so, if you are seeing different behavior with AsyncTask.cancel() on different versions of android, its likely because you are blocking in a thread, but the semantics of checking interruption are different somehow
Aug 28 11:21:10 <g00s> maybe you are blocking in some socket read() , which has a bug one one version but not another
Aug 28 11:21:45 <mik12> i was able to crosscompile libcurl with ssl-support, so i have libcurl.so, libcrypto.so and libssl.so. i'm using curl in the native-part of my application and everything works fine (ndk-build, libs are in the apk, ...) until i want to load libcurl via System.loadLibrary("curl") in the java-code, because then an exception gets thrown: Java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Cannot load library: reloc_library[1314]:   152 cannot locate 'ENGINE_get_next'... sure, bef
Aug 28 11:21:46 <mik12> ore i load libcurl, i'm loading libssl and libcrypto. when the openssl-libs get statically linked during curl-compilation, the lib gets loaded and is working correctly... does somebody have any hints or suggestions ?
Aug 28 11:22:36 <g00s> mikedg: what phone are you thinking about ?
Aug 28 11:23:55 <mikedg> i want a note
Aug 28 11:24:06 <mikedg> wish the original would drop in price
Aug 28 11:27:07 <g00s> mikedg: here you go http://www.gizmag.com/ownfone-cellphone/23875/
Aug 28 11:28:09 <mikedg> cool
Aug 28 11:34:45 <mikedg> transparent windows all over the place++
Aug 28 11:41:16 <mephju> SimonVT, thx for answering. What do you think...is there another way to intercept the home button event?
Aug 28 11:52:15 <woozly> Guys, I can't understand, why my widget doesn't fit normaly: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28057478/5556Android41_2012-08-28_15-50-57.png
Aug 28 11:52:30 <woozly> It has big padding from top and bottom :/
Aug 28 11:53:10 <woozly> but widget_provider.xml: http://pastie.org/4603214
Aug 28 11:53:28 <woozly> widget_layout.xml: http://pastie.org/4603215
Aug 28 11:53:31 <woozly> :/
Aug 28 11:54:44 <woozly> It won't fit at top and at bottom. Has a big padding :/
Aug 28 12:02:39 <woozly> HELLLOOOO
Aug 28 12:02:44 <woozly> Can anybody help me???
Aug 28 12:02:54 <woozly> 650+ persones on channel
Aug 28 12:03:00 <Snuffel> hiiiii
Aug 28 12:03:03 <Snuffel> don't ask to ask
Aug 28 12:03:06 <Snuffel> ever heard of that
Aug 28 12:03:26 <woozly> I can't understand why my trouble so stupid... :(
Aug 28 12:03:42 <woozly> which reason, widget don't want to fit like other widgets
Aug 28 12:05:27 <HDroid> http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/ui_guidelines/widget_design.html there's some info about automatic margins there, maybe it's that?
Aug 28 12:05:49 <HDroid> Also check that the background doesn't have its own padding.
Aug 28 12:06:06 <woozly> HDroid: thanks! I'll try
Aug 28 12:09:55 <woozly> HDroid: thank you man! link helps!
Aug 28 12:10:01 <HDroid> Ahh good
Aug 28 12:11:06 <woozly> but little question... auto-margins added only to Android 4.x ? but what with < 4? :)
Aug 28 12:11:35 <woozly> I need add margins manually? and then make few versions of widget for other devices?
Aug 28 12:11:41 <woozly> never work with Google.Play
Aug 28 12:13:12 <M0TRN_th1> I tried to make my first Android app with Eclipse following the instructions except I called it "CowShed" instead of "MyFirstApp", but even after having made no changes it already fails: The method onTabReselected(ActionBar.Tab, FragmentTransaction) of type MainActivity must override a superclass method
Aug 28 12:13:26 <HDroid> Not sure if it works that way, but you could store the padding values in http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/resources/more-resources.html#Dimension and switch your resources by appending an api level (values-v14 to set to zero for 14 and up, for instance).
Aug 28 12:14:07 <HDroid> M0TRN_th1: following which instructions, exactly?
Aug 28 12:14:29 <M0TRN_th1> HDroid, the ones here: http://developer.android.com/training/basics/firstapp/creating-project.html
Aug 28 12:15:06 <M0TRN_th1> except it had a step in the wizard for adding an Activity which I did
Aug 28 12:15:20 <M0TRN_th1> ie. a tab/swipe view
Aug 28 12:15:38 <HDroid> Is your API level > 11?
Aug 28 12:16:18 <HDroid> ALso, your activity should implement TabListener, I think.
Aug 28 12:24:49 <saik0> Can i match multiple values in my content provider URL? content://my.provider.authority/resource/1/data/12
Aug 28 12:25:41 <saik0> s/Can i/Is it a BadIdea(tm) to/
Aug 28 12:26:54 <M0TRN_th1> HDroid, Minimum api is 10 and build api is 16
Aug 28 12:27:02 <M0TRN_th1> do I need to change that?
Aug 28 12:27:46 <HDroid> Hm build 16 should be enough... unless they hide classes that require a higher build level nowadays, could try setting minimum to 11.
Aug 28 12:28:13 <M0TRN_th1> how can I change it after I already created the project?
Aug 28 12:28:29 <saik0> M0TRN_th1: in AndroidManifest.xml
Aug 28 12:28:57 <mikedg> saik0: you can do what ever you want in your content provider url
Aug 28 12:29:09 <mikedg> some things are easier than others
Aug 28 12:31:03 <M0TRN_th1> saik0, it has "15" as both Minimum and Target SDK version in that file
Aug 28 12:31:12 <M0TRN_th1> not sure why when I put 16 and 10 in the wisard
Aug 28 12:35:27 <saik0> mikedg, yeah I have a test provider in which I'm parsing my url's that way, just making sure there wasn't some pitfall ahead
Aug 28 12:39:07 <jkbbwr> can I pragmatically determine an activity layout?
Aug 28 12:43:29 <Sicp> I have this code here for a plugin, what I want to do is just use File functions to rename a file saved on external storage, but I only want to do that after the intent started on line 81 is finished
Aug 28 12:43:32 <Sicp> http://pastebin.com/rb8qdsXa
Aug 28 12:44:24 <mms_> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5065722/how-do-you-put-a-border-around-a-listview  .... I tried to use the second answer with 8 points for my listview but then in program I add listitems and their default font was white so as I made the list background white the listitem text is not visible.  how can I change the item text to be black color in the main.xml ?
Aug 28 12:46:35 <tech1> how do i add resources to a project without using eclipse/adt -which generates and updates gen/R.java automatically
Aug 28 12:47:15 <saik0> mms_: list items have their own layouts
Aug 28 12:48:01 <mms_> saik0: as per that url I thought of giving a border and now I need to think of how to change font of items...I will just change broder color instead to simplify
Aug 28 12:50:19 <aganov> Hi, I have RESTful http API. Do you know any mechanism to ensure request comes from app?
Aug 28 12:50:55 <Snuffel> certificates?
Aug 28 12:51:10 <jkbbwr> public private key signing
Aug 28 12:51:20 <Hodapp> two-way SSL?
Aug 28 12:51:25 <mms_> also funny thing is as I scroll the list it flashes old background
Aug 28 12:51:31 <woozly> Guys, quesiton: Can I implement horizontal scroll of content of widget?
Aug 28 12:52:15 <mms_> its sort of related to mouse enter
Aug 28 12:53:22 <aganov> Snuffel, jkbbwr, Hodapp thanks for the ideas, I will make some research on this.
Aug 28 12:53:58 <Hodapp> we basically all said the same thing
Aug 28 12:55:09 <aganov> Ony one concern with this method, after decompilation, if "hacker" get the public key from the apk, he can imitate my app, any way to prevent that?
Aug 28 12:56:31 <Hodapp> aganov: Uh, if the 'hacker' has the APK then how is it any different from him just running the app?
Aug 28 12:57:14 <HDroid> Running the app vs. implementing a multithreaded scraper desktop/server app that steals all your 10 million pages in a couple of huors?
Aug 28 12:57:51 <mikedg> a public key wouldnt be public if you tried to make it private
Aug 28 12:58:04 <Hodapp> mikedg: that's crazy talk right there.
Aug 28 12:58:24 <HDroid> The reality is, your app is never safe on an Android device.
Aug 28 12:58:38 <HDroid> The other reality is, no app ever is safe.
Aug 28 12:58:44 <Hodapp> What is 'safe'?
Aug 28 12:58:48 <mikedg> have the server throttle users if they try to steal shit
Aug 28 12:58:48 <HDroid> Regardless of the platform.
Aug 28 12:58:51 <mikedg> nothing is safe
Aug 28 12:58:51 <lov> aganov: the one truism of client/server development is that you should always assume that the client is compromised.
Aug 28 12:59:00 <lov> aganov: your security MUST NOT depend on any kind of client secret
Aug 28 12:59:34 <mikedg> i like to randomly insert fun words like "titties" and "I'v got crabs" into data when I suspect that someone is using it against the TOS
Aug 28 12:59:48 <lov> aganov: if you believe that someone has taken your APIs and is using them inappropriately, you should ban that IP, or resort to legal based protections.
Aug 28 12:59:49 <Hodapp> mikedg: that was you?
Aug 28 13:00:20 <HDroid> Didn't work so well for my porn site vs. medical advice vertical.
Aug 28 13:00:37 <lov> aganov: aren't you the guy that's the scrap metal company that asked this question like 6 months ago?
Aug 28 13:00:50 <mikedg> lov: he still hasnt solved it!
Aug 28 13:00:52 <aganov> lov, no, i'm not :D
Aug 28 13:01:03 <lov> thank god; you might be willing to take a hint then
Aug 28 13:01:11 <HDroid> "Don't steal our virtual scrap metal"
Aug 28 13:01:13 <lov> the other guy was just abominable
Aug 28 13:01:23 <tech1> does anyone here build android apps without eclipse or intellij?
Aug 28 13:01:25 <Hodapp> HDroid: World of Warcraft is serious business.
Aug 28 13:01:28 <Sicp> can't I do "startActivityForResult()" for this kind of intent? 			intent = new Intent(Intent.ACTION_VIEW);
Aug 28 13:01:36 <HDroid> Hm true
Aug 28 13:01:37 <aganov> :D ok, thanks guys
Aug 28 13:01:43 <lov> Sicp: you can but it's pretty vague.
Aug 28 13:01:53 <lov> you're probably not going to match anything with that intent
Aug 28 13:02:10 <Sicp> hmmm, it just displays the video player and plays some video, when that video is done I want to do something
Aug 28 13:02:32 <lov> Sicp: and?
Aug 28 13:02:41 <lov> Sicp: have you defined onActivityResult?
Aug 28 13:02:52 <Sicp> yea
Aug 28 13:02:53 <M0TRN_th1> well I deleted my project and created it again with Min API 15 (that I have on my phone) and Target API 16
Aug 28 13:02:55 <lov> are you not getting any result from it? You should always get at least SOMETHING for startActivityForResult
Aug 28 13:02:58 <M0TRN_th1> now it worked that time...
Aug 28 13:03:03 <lov> even if that something is a cancelled result or something
Aug 28 13:03:10 <Sicp> I have, but there is nowhere that the result is being actually set, it should be inside the activity being called that the result is set
Aug 28 13:03:41 <Sicp> but in this case there is no activity
Aug 28 13:04:09 <lov> huh?
Aug 28 13:04:14 <lov> Try again, this time make sense
Aug 28 13:05:09 <Sicp> http://pastebin.com/rb8qdsXa <-- that's the code I'm using, it's a plugin
Aug 28 13:05:18 <Hodapp> If I am getting rid of an activity (i.e. I don't want it on the stack and I want its state gone), is the convention to call onDestroy() or is there some other way?
Aug 28 13:05:24 <HDroid> M0TRN_th1: the short answer is... use ActionBarSherlock.
Aug 28 13:05:41 <HDroid> ...finish()?
Aug 28 13:05:53 <Hodapp> HDroid: thanks
Aug 28 13:06:08 <lov> Hodapp: call finish()
Aug 28 13:06:19 <Hodapp> lov: sorry, HDroid won the cash prize for first answer.
Aug 28 13:06:23 <lov> never call onDestroy or the other lifecycle methods directly (unless you really, really know what you're doing)
Aug 28 13:06:53 <mik12> i was able to crosscompile libcurl with ssl-support, so i have libcurl.so, libcrypto.so and libssl.so. i'm using curl in the native-part of my application and everything works fine (ndk-build, libs are in the apk, ...) until i want to load libcurl via System.loadLibrary("curl") in the java-code. An exception gets thrown: Java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Cannot load library: reloc_library[1314]:   152 cannot locate 'ENGINE_get_next'... sure, before i load li
Aug 28 13:06:53 <mik12> bcurl, i'm loading libssl and libcrypto. when the openssl-libs get statically linked during curl-compilation, libcurl gets loaded correctly and it is working then... does somebody have any hints or suggestions on how i can compile these libs as shared libs and load them in java correctly?
Aug 28 13:08:20 <Sicp> lov, usually startActivityForResult() takes request code and activity. Inside that activity being called, the setResult() is called to set the result code, you go back to where the startActivityForResult() was called and write an onActivityResult() method that checks for the result that was set
Aug 28 13:08:27 <Sicp> in this case, there is no other activity being called
Aug 28 13:09:04 <SimonVT> Still not making sense
Aug 28 13:09:28 <SimonVT> If you're calling startActivityForResult.. You're starting an activity..
Aug 28 13:09:42 <Sicp> ok, but where can I set the resultcode?
Aug 28 13:09:50 <Sicp> to be able to check for it in onActivityResult?
Aug 28 13:10:15 <SimonVT> In the activity you start
Aug 28 13:10:26 <mms_> listview item is not showing selected when I do so in code...
Aug 28 13:10:51 <Sicp> intent = new Intent(Intent.ACTION_VIEW);
Aug 28 13:10:51 <Sicp> 			intent.setDataAndType(uri, "video/*"); <--- and then I call, 		this.cordova.getActivity().startActivityForResult(intent, PLAYED_REQUEST_CODE);
Aug 28 13:10:55 <mms_> api says when in touch mode it will not show selected though will position correctly
Aug 28 13:10:59 <Sicp> that intent is the activity that I start
Aug 28 13:12:45 <Sicp> any idea?
Aug 28 13:13:09 <SimonVT> Intent != Activity
Aug 28 13:13:13 <Sicp> exactly!
Aug 28 13:13:45 <Sicp> how come startActivityForResult() is working, the video player shows up and everything
Aug 28 13:13:52 <SimonVT> Any activity which defines an intent filter for action_view (and something else probably) can be started with what itnent
Aug 28 13:14:01 <SimonVT> s/itnent/intent/
Aug 28 13:14:17 <SimonVT> That activity can then call setResult, and set the result code
Aug 28 13:14:30 <Sicp> so what can I do now to set the resultcode to something?
Aug 28 13:14:39 <Sicp> the only file that I am working with is the one linked to above
Aug 28 13:14:42 <SimonVT> If the activity you start isn't yours, you can't
Aug 28 13:22:56 <tapas> when oh when will copy and paste finally really work again?>
Aug 28 13:24:21 <Sicp> SimonT ?
Aug 28 13:24:23 <Sicp> lol
Aug 28 13:24:31 <mms_> any one knows how to get the listitem highlighted...when I populate list I want indication that first item is selected...it seems if I added background to the list the default selection is not appearing
Aug 28 13:24:46 <nerdshark> \o
Aug 28 13:25:14 <Sicp> SimonVT, you heard what I was doing, a while ago..what do you think the solution to that would be? the companies get a content protection right over their videos/etc.. so that you won't be able to copy the videos from the device and share them?
Aug 28 13:25:14 <lov> o/
Aug 28 13:25:53 <Sicp> cause this guy wants to download the file, rename it and save it, and on playing name it properly again, then when done..rename it back and save it......
Aug 28 13:26:09 <Sicp> it's epic facepalm-worthy
Aug 28 13:26:53 <SimonVT> I have no idea
Aug 28 13:28:01 <SimonVT> He can't stop users from copying the file from the device
Aug 28 13:28:04 <SimonVT> So that one's out
Aug 28 13:28:44 <Sicp> even if the video is renamed to something strange, the user can copy that file to say Windows, show file extensions and remove the garbage...
Aug 28 13:28:47 <Sicp> it's so stupid
Aug 28 13:30:32 <SimonVT> Well, he's the one paying
Aug 28 13:30:36 <SimonVT> Give him what he wants
Aug 28 13:30:43 <SimonVT> You've raised your concerns
Aug 28 13:30:47 <Sicp> yea
Aug 28 13:32:05 <onewaytoconnect> hi
Aug 28 13:32:31 <onewaytoconnect> is there any way to control the audio stream of the call
Aug 28 13:32:45 <onewaytoconnect> something like playing some file to the caller
Aug 28 13:33:01 <Sicp> you want to create an answering machine?
Aug 28 13:34:36 <mms_> I am unable to get log4j.properties working with android
Aug 28 13:37:23 <Hodapp> wow, they really don't want to permit modal AlertDialogs
Aug 28 13:38:22 <Hodapp> though I suppose I really don't need modal here
Aug 28 13:38:35 <Hodapp> and I've had more than my share of problems with developing with and using modal dialogs...
Aug 28 13:42:05 <ClockworkAnt> android httpclient; is there a way to disable cookies and how?
Aug 28 13:42:17 <ClockworkAnt> Good afternoon/Morning
Aug 28 13:43:59 <ixc> what u mean with disable?
Aug 28 13:44:04 <ixc> u just dont save and resend
Aug 28 13:45:43 <Hodapp> ugggh, fucking buggy Eclipse... it generates blah.out.xml which has errors in it and then I can't delete it because it has a lock on the file even though it is nowhere open in the editor
Aug 28 13:45:47 <Hodapp> and then the project won't build
Aug 28 13:46:44 <Bink> Hodapp: Eclipse works like Windows. trying restarting it and the probalem is likely to go away.
Aug 28 13:47:55 <nerdshark> ewww eclipse
Aug 28 13:48:05 <nerdshark> i've been using mono for android
Aug 28 13:48:10 <ClockworkAnt> ixc, Ive been requested by the server dev to try disabling cookies, I figured that maybe android has automated cookie managment or if Im using the defaulthttpclient without doing anything special it is cookieless
Aug 28 13:48:12 <nerdshark> and have srsly fallen in love with monodevelop
Aug 28 13:53:11 <ixc> ClockworkAnt: http://developer.android.com/reference/java/net/CookiePolicy.html#ACCEPT_NONE?
Aug 28 13:53:38 <ClockworkAnt> ixc anything for api 8?
Aug 28 14:01:09 <cdmdcmdmcdm> guys you ever get a problem with the androidmanifest.xml where even though you put in let's say a <uses-permission> tag eclipse doesn't seem to see it? i'm having that irritating strict mode android block guard policy and it seems to be ignoring the <uses-permission> for android.permission.INTERNET…. ? :)
Aug 28 14:02:12 <SimonVT> Strict mode isn't about permissions
Aug 28 14:02:18 <SimonVT> It's about doing things the wrong way
Aug 28 14:03:24 <cdmdcmdmcdm> ok fair enough.
Aug 28 14:05:46 <tapas> hmm, i wonder how to achieve the following: let's say i have 5 views which i want to position on the right side of the screen in landscape mode..
Aug 28 14:06:07 <tapas> each one should take 1/5th of the screen height and resize its width such that it's square..
Aug 28 14:06:08 <cdmdcmdmcdm> afaik it worked 'the wrong way' last release…. i don't have time to rework this code so i'll prob have to change the threadpolicy to ThreadPolicy.LAX and just go with that
Aug 28 14:07:22 <SimonVT> That it works doesn't make it right
Aug 28 14:07:29 <SimonVT> I'm just gonna guess you're doing networking on the main thread
Aug 28 14:07:52 <SimonVT> You're blocking anything from happening on the main thread while you do that
Aug 28 14:07:55 <cdmdcmdmcdm> i'm not disputing what you're saying at all - i agree with it in fact. but this guy's bad code was fine until i got my hands on it and now i look like i screwed it up.
Aug 28 14:08:04 <cdmdcmdmcdm> yeah i know. async is the way to go off the main thread.
Aug 28 14:08:09 <SimonVT> No touchevents, no drawing, nothing
Aug 28 14:08:14 <cdmdcmdmcdm> yep =`
Aug 28 14:08:15 <cdmdcmdmcdm> =[
Aug 28 14:08:17 <SimonVT> After 5 seconds or so, user gets an ANR dialog
Aug 28 14:08:30 <cdmdcmdmcdm> it's a login screen.
Aug 28 14:08:35 <SimonVT> And they shut down your app and leave you a 1 star review
Aug 28 14:09:49 <SimonVT> The reason it works fine when you test is probably because you're always on wifi
Aug 28 14:09:59 <SimonVT> And not on mobile network somewhere with bad reception
Aug 28 14:10:09 <SimonVT> So listen to strict mode and fix your app
Aug 28 14:10:43 <lov> what Simon said
Aug 28 14:10:53 <lov> if you're doing networking on the main thread, it might block for minutes.
Aug 28 14:11:16 <lov> take your phone and go find the ass-end of nowhere where you have 2G coverage, if that.
Aug 28 14:11:20 <lov> test.
Aug 28 14:12:00 <cdmdcmdmcdm> good points. thanks.
Aug 28 14:12:12 <cdmdcmdmcdm> will do it properly instead of being lazy.
Aug 28 14:12:13 <cdmdcmdmcdm> ;]
Aug 28 14:14:01 <durapix> hi anyone thr..
Aug 28 14:15:29 <durapix> I hv small issue to play video stream from VLC to android.. any expierenced developer who tried that before. thx for helping
Aug 28 14:16:08 <durapix> my S2 says that cant play the video aftr 5 seconds delay
Aug 28 14:16:46 <durapix> nplus, got a min ?
Aug 28 14:17:31 <nplus> durapix: we don't support apps here, we help developers
Aug 28 14:17:39 <saik0> durapix: are you writing an app to stream video from VLC? if not this is the wrong place.
Aug 28 14:18:47 <Leeds> nplus: to be fair, we sometimes insult would-be developers as well
Aug 28 14:18:50 <rciovati> my multi-pane layout is composed by a list fragment and a map fragment. ( code http://pastebin.com/YvaTVzx1 ). list fragment has android:layout_weight="3" and map fragment android:layout_weight="7". i'd like to add a new fragment on the right of the map fragment when user clicks on a list item but with FragmentTransaction i can't specify a android:layout_weight for the new fragment and change the android:
Aug 28 14:18:51 <rciovati> layout_weight for the map one. Is there a trick for do something like this?
Aug 28 14:19:37 <nplus> Leeds: heh, I'll give you that one
Aug 28 14:20:32 <Hodapp> hmmm, TextView.setError says it displays the given error 'when the TextView has focus'... just how does a TextView go about getting focus?
Aug 28 14:20:44 <durapix> nplus, saik0, yeah correct, I am developing an App to play video stream frm my PC to Android, yeah I am not talking abt a Market App..
Aug 28 14:21:16 <durapix> nplus, saik0, I hv tried this SO tutorial > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5335731/android-video-streaming-example
Aug 28 14:22:15 <nplus> durapix: well first of all, i don't know why you decided that I should/can help you. Secondly, post some code or error logs
Aug 28 15:04:58 <champlo> hey guys, is  prebuilt/linux-x86/  a pre-existing directory?
Aug 28 15:07:20 <Mechdave> the file where you keep the <style> tags is that meant to be named style.xml or styles.xml?
Aug 28 15:08:45 <champlo> guess everyone is still asleep
Aug 28 15:08:48 <champlo> ill try again later
Aug 28 15:10:34 <SimonVT> Mechdave: Doesn't matter
Aug 28 15:10:56 <SimonVT> File names in values/ is irrelevant
Aug 28 15:11:03 <cougarten> hi. does anyone know how these screen transitions work?
Aug 28 15:11:55 <cougarten> i wonder if you could modify them into a global pinch to zoom feature or something. there is no screen magnifier for visually impared on android at all...
Aug 28 15:22:01 <Mechdave> SimonVT, Thanks :) I didn't think so :)
Aug 28 15:23:02 <Reaga> whats a good book to leran android development
Aug 28 15:25:00 <canadiancow> Reaga: http://d.android.com
Aug 28 15:27:07 <cougarten> canadiancow, really? oh wait, that site did change a lot  :)
Aug 28 15:32:34 <brickhead> Guys I need some insight regarding sdcard encryptioin
Aug 28 15:33:02 <canadiancow> getSdCard().encrypt()
Aug 28 15:33:21 <brickhead> so far it looks like I've to pay up to each bloody vendor to have some API level integration with sdcard encryption
Aug 28 15:33:38 <brickhead> canadiancow: Last time I checked Android wasn't doing that on its own
Aug 28 15:34:24 <canadiancow> what exactly do you want?
Aug 28 15:34:55 <lov> brickhead: be specific. When you say "sdcard encryption" what exactly are you looking for?
Aug 28 15:35:07 <brickhead> I'm writing a MDM app and its suppose to provide compliance, whether sdcard and memory card is encrypted
Aug 28 15:35:34 <lov> ah.
Aug 28 15:35:43 <lov> Yeah, I don't think that android exposes that kind of information at all.
Aug 28 15:36:47 <lov> You've seen http://source.android.com/tech/encryption/android_crypto_implementation.html , correct?
Aug 28 15:36:52 <brickhead> so S2 has sdcard encryption, but that's Samsungs doing and it want's me shell out 500$/year to have acess to it
Aug 28 15:37:39 <tnzr> anyone know if it's possible in eclipse to see what code is referencing an xml?
Aug 28 15:37:44 <brickhead> lov: I've that won't do for /sdcard/ which happens to be most sensitive attack surface
Aug 28 15:37:57 <brickhead> *seen
Aug 28 15:38:03 * lov shrugs
Aug 28 15:38:04 <lov> sorry
Aug 28 15:38:21 <canadiancow> i dont understand still
Aug 28 15:38:31 <canadiancow> why dont you encrypt your stuff on your own
Aug 28 15:38:35 <canadiancow> then it works the same way everywhere
Aug 28 15:38:36 <canadiancow> and it's free
Aug 28 15:39:28 <lov> because he's not looking to encrypt certain files, he's trying to see if the filesystem itself is encrypted for reporting purposes.
Aug 28 15:39:41 <brickhead> well what a company wants is for me to ensure that sdcard of their employees are encrypted, so incase someone take it out and get away with it, their data is still protected
Aug 28 15:40:02 <brickhead> here is google progress on it http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?can=2&start=0&num=100&q=&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars&groupby=&sort=&id=11211
Aug 28 15:40:58 <brickhead> its a "medium" level "enhancement", I'm not when it'll see the light of day :(
Aug 28 15:41:16 <lov> brickhead: the external bug tracker really provides no visibility into the actual priorities of features
Aug 28 15:42:09 <brickhead> lov: hmm..
Aug 28 15:42:13 <SimonVT> It's pretty useless tbh :p
Aug 28 15:42:20 <HorizonXP> architectural question:
Aug 28 15:42:35 <HorizonXP> my app needs to allow the user the login with Facebook when they launch it for the first time
Aug 28 15:42:43 <HorizonXP> i.e. it requires FB login
Aug 28 15:43:07 <HorizonXP> should I create an activity to hold that UI, and check to see if the access_token exists?
Aug 28 15:43:20 <HorizonXP> and if it does, close itself and open my app's actual main activity?
Aug 28 15:43:30 <HorizonXP> and if it doesn't, stay open and let the user login
Aug 28 15:43:49 <HorizonXP> or.. should I handle it all within the main app UI activity, and modify the UI shown based on the two caess?
Aug 28 15:44:06 <JakeWharton> open the main activity, if the user is invalid or doesn't exist finish and go to login flow
Aug 28 15:44:11 <lov> ^^
Aug 28 15:44:20 <JakeWharton> the 99% case is that they're already logged in
Aug 28 15:44:44 <HorizonXP> JakeWharton: right. makes sense.
Aug 28 15:44:52 <HorizonXP> JakeWharton: login flow in same activity, or separate?
Aug 28 15:45:15 <JakeWharton> that's subjective but separate makes the most sense to me
Aug 28 15:45:34 <HorizonXP> JakeWharton: I think so too. just wanted to bounce off others. Thanks!
Aug 28 15:47:45 <canadiancow> and since we're talking about showing screens at startup
Aug 28 15:47:51 <canadiancow> if you show a splash screen i will be upset
Aug 28 15:49:37 <itaitai_> When updating an activity from multiple threads, how can I guarantee that only the most recent Activity instance will get updated, in case the system decides to destroy it due to low memory?
Aug 28 15:50:26 <canadiancow> wat
Aug 28 15:50:38 <canadiancow> "the most recent Activity instance"
Aug 28 15:50:43 <SimonVT> If it's destroyed, then it's not there anymore.. So you can't really update it
Aug 28 15:50:59 <brickhead> itaitai_: I've found LocalBroadcast generally call onReceive for the current Activity on screen
Aug 28 15:51:03 <itaitai_> but the system will recreate it ?
Aug 28 15:52:06 <brickhead> recreate what?
Aug 28 15:52:34 <saik0> Woah, my finger slipped and I hit the icon for camera instead of my app in an emulator. Too bad I left my acid in my other jeans.
Aug 28 15:54:54 <itaitai_> Correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding it that an Activity can be destroyed and recreated upon 1) configuration change 2) low memory… in either case the process is still intact and the environment will simply recreate the activity, this is in contract to destroying process…
Aug 28 15:57:51 <JakeWharton> your process will be destroyed if the memory is low and that's likely only ever going to happen when it's backgrounded
Aug 28 15:58:10 <wongk> "If an activity is paused or stopped, the system can drop the activity from memory by either asking it to finish, or simply killing its process."
Aug 28 15:59:15 <itaitai_> Does LocalBroadcast queue notifications for unregistered Activities ? My concern with this approach is missing notifications between onPause and onResume …
Aug 28 16:00:05 <JakeWharton> http://commonsware.com/blog/2011/10/03/activities-not-destroyed-to-free-heap-space.html
Aug 28 16:01:05 <JakeWharton> however, you should still write your activities as if they will be destroyed. turning on "Kill Activities" dev setting is a great way to find erroneous state dependencies
Aug 28 16:01:25 <JakeWharton> also, somewhat related, don't handle configuration changes like orientation or screen size
Aug 28 16:03:27 <itaitai_> wongk: if an Activity is in the background it's paused, so the system can decide to drop it ... but if the user gets back to it, it must be recreated somehow ... in either case the threads are still running ... so unless the process it terminated, there is issue of completing on the right instance
Aug 28 16:05:45 <SimonVT> As JakeWhartons link says, that's not the case
Aug 28 16:06:57 <itaitai_> JakeWharton: fair enough.. but how do I deal with threads that need to update the current active instance
Aug 28 16:07:15 <JakeWharton> event bus
Aug 28 16:08:01 <brickhead> JakeWharton: any native implementation on Android ?
Aug 28 16:08:15 <Leeds> party bus
Aug 28 16:08:57 <sha0coder> JakeWharton,  activities doesn't free anything :)
Aug 28 16:10:06 <brickhead_> hmm..
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Aug 28 16:15:44 <JakeWharton> I use a third-party library for an event bus
Aug 28 16:18:11 <itaitai_> Thanks, it’s very frustrating that such a fundamental scenario is not covered by framework, for example if I want to download 5 images, I have no support to  guarantee that all will be visible on the UI…
Aug 28 16:18:16 <brickhead_> JakeWharton: can you tell which third party library you are using
Aug 28 16:18:36 <JakeWharton> http://square.github.com/otto/
Aug 28 16:19:19 <brickhead_> itaitai_: I think LocalBroadcast should do for you, (that's what I'm using for the exact reason) ..each activity register the receiver and unregister when its paused
Aug 28 16:19:38 <brickhead_> that way whoever has the screen will get the notification and would be able to display the progress
Aug 28 16:20:34 <JakeWharton> I've found local broadcasts to have an awful high amount of boilerplate to usefulness ratio
Aug 28 16:21:11 <itaitai_> brickhead_: but what happens if the notification arrives while you where paused ... you missed it... you were not registered...
Aug 28 16:21:16 <Hodapp> I thought for a minute he was talking about on TV and was going to agree...
Aug 28 16:21:30 <JakeWharton> but you disagree in the context of Android then?
Aug 28 16:21:43 <calvinchan> Hi, if I have a class that extends Framelayout, how can I share pass data to it?
Aug 28 16:21:48 <brickhead_> itaitai_: but do you care? if are activity is not visible what business does it have receiving notifications
Aug 28 16:22:09 <calvinchan> I tried using intend and shared preferences but those I think require a class that extends an activity
Aug 28 16:23:44 <brickhead_> calvinchan: intend?
Aug 28 16:23:50 <calvinchan> intent
Aug 28 16:23:53 <calvinchan> sorry haha
Aug 28 16:24:04 <calvinchan> so basically I have a class that extends activity
Aug 28 16:24:12 <itaitai_> brickhead_: Displaying the response when resumed? If user initiates an Async request, tilts the device… the request completes and then onResume happens … you missed the result … if the user is in pending state … they are stuck.
Aug 28 16:24:17 <calvinchan> and I wanna pass data to another class that extends Framelayout
Aug 28 16:24:43 <calvinchan> brickhead_:but it doesn't let me use intent or shared preferences
Aug 28 16:24:54 <brickhead_> itaitai_: you register the receiver on onResume() and unregister on onPause
Aug 28 16:25:25 <brickhead_> so whatever you do, when ever your activity starts it will be registered and would get the notification
Aug 28 16:25:48 <itaitai_> brickhead_: but the broadcast can arrive in between … are you saying that the broadcasts will be queued?
Aug 28 16:25:55 <brickhead_> if you're handing configuration changes by yourself then you'll have to register/unregister there
Aug 28 16:26:17 <brickhead_> itaitai_: they won't be queued they'll be lost
Aug 28 16:26:35 <itaitai_> brickhead_:  So here you go... problem.
Aug 28 16:26:46 <JakeWharton> Do not handle configurations changes to "solve" this problem
Aug 28 16:26:54 <JakeWharton> use a loader
Aug 28 16:27:55 <calvinchan> is there any other ways to pass data if I have a class that extends frame layout?
Aug 28 16:27:57 <itaitai_> JakeWharton: Don't have much experience with loaders ... generally, how would they help in this case ?
Aug 28 16:28:21 <brickhead_> itaitai_: dump your notifications in a queue and serialize it and parse them on onResume  and onReceive of broadcast receiver
Aug 28 16:28:26 <JakeWharton> they cache the result of their operation so that subsequent calls will instantly return the value (e.g., if you activity restarts or you move to a different activity)
Aug 28 16:29:44 <itaitai_> brickhead_: Can you please clarify ..
Aug 28 16:31:58 <itaitai_> JakeWharton: Ok ... I'll need to research this .. so what you saying is that they basically act as an Async abstraction that maintain affinity with the current valid Activity ?
Aug 28 16:32:23 <JakeWharton> correct
Aug 28 16:33:35 <itaitai_> JakeWharton:Tnx
Aug 28 16:33:43 <itaitai_> brickhead_: Great if you can elaborate more on your suggestion as well..
Aug 28 16:38:08 <Hodapp> gaaaah Eclipse is being a buggy piece of crap again
Aug 28 16:38:35 <Hodapp> when I select lines in the XML editor in a layout, the line differs according to when I have it selected and when it's unselected
Aug 28 16:39:36 <Hodapp> I just want to edit a file without having to worry that I'm editing a different line than is shown :-/
Aug 28 16:40:44 <UnbertKant> Hey there!
Aug 28 16:41:27 <taljurf> guys, im trying to show a progressbar in oncreateview, but im having problems with context :/
Aug 28 16:41:29 <taljurf> http://www.fpaste.org/q7JK/
Aug 28 16:41:38 <UnbertKant> I have a runtime exception that can happen anywhere in my app and I want to react to it by showing a special activity. So I tried to start that activity in my UncaughtExceptionHandler, but nothing happens (app hangs until I see a "anr" dialog). Why?
Aug 28 16:41:44 <taljurf> what shoud the context here be?
Aug 28 16:41:55 <taljurf> line 34 that it
Aug 28 16:41:56 <taljurf> is
Aug 28 16:42:25 <lov> UnbertKant: if your exception occurs on the UI thread, you're boned, the end.
Aug 28 16:42:40 <UnbertKant> It doesn't
Aug 28 16:42:48 <UnbertKant> It happens in "doInBackground" of an async task.
Aug 28 16:42:55 <lov> hmm.
Aug 28 16:42:58 <lov> I don't know then.
Aug 28 16:43:09 <UnbertKant> I find this by catching the exception and run .getCause() to see if the cause chain contains the runtime exception i'm looking for.
Aug 28 16:43:16 <Hodapp> aaaaand I made Eclipse run out of memory by having two couple-megapixel images in the layout.
Aug 28 16:43:20 <Hodapp> this is dumb.
Aug 28 16:43:46 <taljurf> lov: my issue would be easy for u ^^^^
Aug 28 16:43:52 <UnbertKant> I catch the exceptions on UI thread with a simple try catch, but this doesn't catch those that happen in async tasks.
Aug 28 16:44:19 <UnbertKant> (putting trycatch in every task is the ugly solution, I hoped I could do it in an UncaughtExceptionHandler)
Aug 28 16:47:13 <UnbertKant> wait... if the exception happens in an async task, maybe the uncaught exception handler runs there, too, and can't fire an intent from there? So I have to use "run on UI thread" in the uncaughtexceptionhandler? Hm!
Aug 28 16:48:10 <calvinchan> hi, does anyone know how to pass data to an activity that extends a aflame layout?
Aug 28 16:48:41 <evancharlton> UnbertKant: aren't uncaughtexceptionhandlers set per-thread?
Aug 28 16:48:50 <evancharlton> Thread.setDefaultUncaughtWhateverWhatever(...)
Aug 28 16:49:25 <wongk> calvinchan: your question doesn't make sense, activities dont extend layouts, they contain them, and that bit is irrlevant as far as passing data goes
Aug 28 16:49:40 <wongk> see Intent
Aug 28 16:50:03 <calvinchan> wongk: I have a class that extends activity
Aug 28 16:50:40 <calvinchan> and I want to pass some integers from that class to a  class  extends FrameLayout{
Aug 28 16:51:11 <calvinchan> public class audiomanager extends FrameLayout {
Aug 28 16:51:59 <wongk> first, why are you extending FrameLayout
Aug 28 16:52:19 <canadiancow> ive done that
Aug 28 16:52:20 <canadiancow> well
Aug 28 16:52:23 <canadiancow> not for an audiomanager
Aug 28 16:52:27 * canadiancow shuts up
Aug 28 16:52:40 <SimonVT> I guess that's just bad naming
Aug 28 16:52:50 <calvinchan> it's an sample project class that I get, to be honest I don't understand mechanism of the class entirely
Aug 28 16:52:58 <SimonVT> Anyway, heard of methods and parameters?
Aug 28 16:53:01 <SimonVT> That's how you pass values
Aug 28 16:53:07 <calvinchan> but basically this audio manager class implements the layout of an audio player UI
Aug 28 16:53:32 <wongk> so it sounds like you're starting with an example that's over your head
Aug 28 16:53:54 <calvinchan> SimonVT: but does it mean I have to create a function with parameters just for the sake of passing these data>
Aug 28 16:54:18 <calvinchan> it doesn't allow me to use intent or shared preferences
Aug 28 16:55:49 <taljurf> guys, im trying to show a progressbar in oncreateview, but im having problems with context :/
Aug 28 16:55:51 <taljurf> http://www.fpaste.org/q7JK/
Aug 28 16:55:55 <taljurf> line 34 that is
Aug 28 16:57:02 <wongk> taljurf: do yoyu know how to get the attached activity from a fragment?
Aug 28 16:57:22 <taljurf> wongk getActivity()
Aug 28 16:57:34 <wongk> and Activity inherits from what?
Aug 28 16:57:46 <evancharlton> Object!
Aug 28 16:57:55 <wongk> :P
Aug 28 16:59:36 <wongk> there's also the fact that showing a ProgressDialog from onCreateView probably doesn't make much sense
Aug 28 17:01:16 <taljurf> wongk: why not?
Aug 28 17:01:35 <wongk> because the activity isn't even on screen ye
Aug 28 17:01:37 <wongk> t
Aug 28 17:02:27 <taljurf> wongk: what im trying to do is show a progress bar for the webview
Aug 28 17:02:37 <taljurf> since im loading somthing which takes too long
Aug 28 17:03:15 <wongk> i saw that
Aug 28 17:03:32 <Hodapp> okay, I have ImageViews inside a LinearLayout, and it's consistently scaling the images just fine to fit but then leaving a ton of empty space
Aug 28 17:04:41 <wongk> taljurf: depending on when the page is loaded, it porbably makes more sense in onStart or onActivityCreated
Aug 28 17:05:36 <Hodapp> how can I just convince the LinearLayout to take up only as much space as the two images need?
Aug 28 17:06:32 <Solinari> helo
Aug 28 17:07:02 <wongk> set either the width or height to wrapContent
Aug 28 17:07:11 <wongk> or both
Aug 28 17:07:12 <Solinari> can get some help aith my android
Aug 28 17:07:29 <Solinari> it's a SE Xperi Mini Pro
Aug 28 17:08:16 <Solinari> the orblem is with an aaa Called "On" Or Libon
Aug 28 17:08:39 <Solinari> and it only started doing stuff when I updated it]ic]
Aug 28 17:08:55 <wongk> Solinari: this doesn't sound like it has anything to do with app development
Aug 28 17:09:12 <Hodapp> wongk: they are all set to wrapContent
Aug 28 17:09:23 <Hodapp> wongk: still empty space
Aug 28 17:09:35 <wongk> Hodapp: and you are saying it is taking more space than content requires
Aug 28 17:09:36 <wongk> ?
Aug 28 17:09:46 <Solinari> I can't uninstall the aoo
Aug 28 17:09:48 <Solinari> app
Aug 28 17:10:09 <Solinari> i just want it to stop using it as a contacts app
Aug 28 17:10:31 <Hodapp> wongk: yes; I'm trying to stick these in a HorizontalScrollView to give several images side-by-side and there is no need for 80% of this space to be empty
Aug 28 17:10:40 <Solinari> any i
Aug 28 17:10:47 <wongk> Solinari: you're in the wrong channel
Aug 28 17:11:21 <wongk> Hodapp: have you taken a look in hierarchy viewer?
Aug 28 17:11:33 <Solinari> yea
Aug 28 17:11:44 <Hodapp> wongk: as in the Outline?
Aug 28 17:11:45 <Solinari> what the right chann?
Aug 28 17:11:47 <Solinari> chanel
Aug 28 17:11:53 <wongk> it sounds like #andorid
Aug 28 17:11:57 <wongk> #android
Aug 28 17:12:14 <wongk> Hodapp: just to see for sure what occupying the space
Aug 28 17:12:18 <Solinari> thanks
Aug 28 17:13:54 <Hodapp> wongk: it's just a horizontal LinearLayout with two ImageView children; that's a child of a vertical LinearLayout
Aug 28 17:14:16 <Hodapp> wongk: I have a nearly identical arrangement alongside it with two Buttons inside and this one seems to scale okay
Aug 28 17:14:22 <wongk> yeah, it may give you some insite, it may not
Aug 28 17:14:37 <wongk> insight
Aug 28 17:15:23 <S3nsat10n> has anyone run across a stacktrace like this? http://pastebin.com/QeV9D8XH
Aug 28 17:15:33 <S3nsat10n> has to do with a null app context inside the apache httpclient
Aug 28 17:15:38 <Hodapp> wongk: yeah, I'm just really confused about why it's doing this...
Aug 28 17:15:47 <S3nsat10n> highly modified httpclient it would seem, judging my the naf.gba package stuff
Aug 28 17:15:51 <S3nsat10n> Seems to be happening only on Samsung Galaxy S devices, but I don't know if that's always the case.
Aug 28 17:16:48 <wongk> S3nsat10n: never see that
Aug 28 17:16:50 <wongk> seen
Aug 28 17:17:17 <S3nsat10n> yeah :/
Aug 28 17:17:22 <S3nsat10n> neither has most of the internet...
Aug 28 17:17:23 <S3nsat10n> heh
Aug 28 17:17:27 <Hodapp> WRAP_CONTENT says that the view should be just large enough to fit its own internal content, taking padding into account
Aug 28 17:17:40 <Hodapp> so if I haven't set any extraneous padding
Aug 28 17:17:52 <Hodapp> just why does it think its own content needs to be that wide...
Aug 28 17:19:55 <Hodapp> I'm never telling the layout to be as wide as the parent - I'm using wrap_content there too
Aug 28 17:20:30 <Hodapp> but the LinearLayout is distributing everything across the screen horizontally...
Aug 28 17:26:55 <Hodapp> So the first LinearLayout has two Button views in it and renders fine.
Aug 28 17:27:35 <Hodapp> The second LinearLayout has two ImageViews in it with completely identical settings to the first LinearLayout and Button views, except for android:scaleType="fitStart" in the ImageViews
Aug 28 17:28:14 <Hodapp> second LinearLayout renders the first ImageView fine, except that it then fills up the rest of the horizontal space with empty space to the right
Aug 28 17:28:26 <Hodapp> so the second image does not even show
Aug 28 17:30:08 <Hodapp> fitCenter and fitEnd just move the scaled image around inside the empty space
Aug 28 17:31:21 <Hodapp> ugh, there we go, needed 'Adjust View Bounds'
Aug 28 17:31:33 <Hodapp> now if the XML editor for the layout wouldn't be so buggy
Aug 28 17:45:10 <Wavesonics> hey when I want an & in a string resource, and I put it in as &amp; and I go getString() on it, it is still &amp; and not & :/
Aug 28 17:45:13 <Wavesonics> wtf :P
Aug 28 17:50:10 <Hodapp> If I want to - from an application - give a full-screen view of an image that the user may zoom and pan around in, how might I go about this? Should I just try to call a built-in image viewer?
Aug 28 17:51:46 <wongk> you could potentially use a WebView, which is not something i'd typically suggest
Aug 28 17:51:58 <wongk> but this just may be a valid use for it
Aug 28 17:52:44 <HorizonXP> has anyone ever used the Facebook Android SDK?
Aug 28 17:52:55 <HorizonXP> I'm having trouble simply logging in :-/
Aug 28 17:53:14 <wongk> does it use OAuth?
Aug 28 17:53:17 <HorizonXP> I'm looking at their example code and trying to emulate it with my own listeners like they've implemented
Aug 28 17:53:30 <HorizonXP> but the listeners never get called
Aug 28 17:53:38 <HorizonXP> wongk: no clue, didn't look under the hood
Aug 28 17:53:48 <HorizonXP> wongk: it seems to login via the Facebook app on device
Aug 28 17:53:53 <wongk> do you actually login through te browser?
Aug 28 17:54:18 <HorizonXP> wongk: no, it opens the FB app
Aug 28 17:54:25 <wongk> oic
Aug 28 17:54:27 <doc_savage> Hodapp: another option is to pass a URI to the gallery and let it display the image for you (not sure how your image is stored)
Aug 28 17:54:35 <wongk> it may still be OAuth then
Aug 28 17:55:04 <wongk> but not in the context that i have experience with
Aug 28 17:55:10 <HorizonXP> FUDGE
Aug 28 17:55:18 <HorizonXP> wongk: i just deleted the Facebook app
Aug 28 17:55:27 <HorizonXP> and it works beautifully via a webview
Aug 28 17:55:33 <wongk> i did that a while back... but i meant to ;)
Aug 28 17:55:50 <HorizonXP> wth do I do with this...
Aug 28 17:58:01 <Hodapp> doc_savage: It'll be a local file.
Aug 28 17:58:12 <HorizonXP> oh bloody hell... i think i missed something
Aug 28 17:58:16 <Reaga> my thing wont work.  i tried to maek my first android program but it says an error. "2012-08-28 18:54:31 - test] Error in an XML file: aborting build."  http://pastebin.com/NSxFxWDH
Aug 28 17:58:26 <Reaga> i did exactly what it said in the book
Aug 28 17:58:27 <Reaga> darned thing
Aug 28 17:59:48 <Reaga> anyone have any ideas why my code doesnt work
Aug 28 18:00:13 <mikedg> Reaga: sounds broken
Aug 28 18:00:31 <Reaga> yeah but why
Aug 28 18:00:38 <mikedg> bugs
Aug 28 18:00:43 <Reaga> what ?
Aug 28 18:00:51 <Reaga> in my code? but where
Aug 28 18:00:55 <canadiancow> dont you lov exceptions that are thrown when x <= 0 iwth the message "x must be >= 0"
Aug 28 18:00:56 <canadiancow> :\
Aug 28 18:01:11 <mikedg> all over your codey
Aug 28 18:01:16 <Reaga> where is problem
Aug 28 18:01:41 <wongk> Reaga: i can tell you you have 2 different types of quotation marks in your XML
Aug 28 18:01:51 <wongk> smells like unicode
Aug 28 18:02:01 <Reaga> isnt this a dev channel
Aug 28 18:02:23 <canadiancow> err
Aug 28 18:02:24 <canadiancow> yes it is?
Aug 28 18:02:27 <Reaga> oh
Aug 28 18:02:58 <doc_savage> Hodapp: local being a resource/asset? or local being SD card?
Aug 28 18:06:42 <Reaga> i dont have any android virtual devices
Aug 28 18:06:43 <Reaga> darned thing
Aug 28 18:07:21 <Hodapp> doc_savage: on the SD card.
Aug 28 18:08:57 <doc_savage> Hodapp: you should be able to use the ACTION_VIEW Intent with a file:// URI to the file then, that will let the user view it in whatever they have installed for viewing images (including the gallery) saving you from doing all the panning/zooming yourself
Aug 28 18:10:01 <Hodapp> what special thing is it doing with resources that is giving out of memory errors if I use larger images? I suppose I should have these elsewhere than resources, but it's still a pain
Aug 28 18:12:02 <saik0> Is there a method that dumps an SQLiteStatement to String?
Aug 28 18:13:01 <Reaga> how do i update the version of android that eclipse is using
Aug 28 18:13:05 <Reaga> i think mine only has 2.1
Aug 28 18:13:17 <Reaga> how do i increase the version
Aug 28 18:13:47 <Hodapp> doc_savage: and the majority of devices should have an app to sensibly handle this, right?
Aug 28 18:13:59 <saik0> Reaga: change target in project.properties
Aug 28 18:14:09 <Hodapp> bah, why ask? this is for a contract where we're also to deliver hardware.
Aug 28 18:14:32 <doc_savage> Hodapp: I think every device should ship with the stock gallery or a compatible replacement
Aug 28 18:14:40 <lov> Reaga: right click your project, go to properties, Android tab, change the target.
Aug 28 18:14:41 <Reaga> saik0: but my target is 4.0.3
Aug 28 18:15:12 <Hodapp> doc_savage: alright, I'll give ACTION_VIEW a try
Aug 28 18:15:15 <Reaga> ok nevermind
Aug 28 18:15:47 <Reaga> the problem is that when i try to create an android virtual device, it says "unable to find a 'userdata.img' file for ABI armeabi to copy into the AVD folder."
Aug 28 18:27:01 <Hodapp> hmm, weird, if I start another activity via an Intent, then my async process for saving a photo fails to run.
Aug 28 18:27:22 <Hodapp> if I simply never call startActivity afterwards, then it runs fine.
Aug 28 18:28:31 <Hodapp> wonder if this is sending the first activity to the background and that's somehow cancelling that async task
Aug 28 18:43:10 <zambo> does the Dialog class get any callback when pause() is called for its owner activity?
Aug 28 18:47:07 <wongk> zambo: is it on a fragment?
Aug 28 18:47:26 <Reaga> my android emulator is slow
Aug 28 18:47:31 <Reaga> is it supposed to be slow
Aug 28 18:47:40 <tech1> depends on your computer
Aug 28 18:47:45 <Reaga> my ocmputer is old
Aug 28 18:47:50 <wongk> i wouldn't say it's *supposed* to be slow
Aug 28 18:47:51 <tech1> but no thats not the objective of it
Aug 28 18:47:54 <wongk> but it is slow
Aug 28 18:47:58 <Reaga> damn that sucks
Aug 28 18:48:01 <EdLin> Reaga, it's always  too slow, deploy to your Android device.
Aug 28 18:48:06 <tech1> what are your specs?
Aug 28 18:48:09 <Reaga> ahh ok il do that
Aug 28 18:48:18 <Reaga> i have an amd x4 640 or somethin
Aug 28 18:48:23 <mikedg> i do tons of testing on my emulator
Aug 28 18:48:35 <lov> Reaga: being slow is pretty normal. Get a device.
Aug 28 18:48:45 <Reaga> i have a samsung galaxy s i9000
Aug 28 18:48:54 <mikedg> use it nub
Aug 28 18:49:02 <Reaga> yeah but it doesnt have the latest version of android does it
Aug 28 18:49:09 <Reaga> what if my app i maek snt compatible
Aug 28 18:49:11 <mikedg> neither do your users
Aug 28 18:49:13 <Reaga> that would be disaaster
Aug 28 18:49:24 <Hodapp> Reaga: do you need features of the latest APIs?
Aug 28 18:49:37 <Reaga> im just getting started with android dev so im not sure
Aug 28 18:49:38 <mikedg> Reaga: I do testing for you
Aug 28 18:49:44 <p_l> Reaga: 1) Decide to load CM10 on it 2) ???? 3) PROFIT!
Aug 28 18:49:47 <mikedg> $50/device/an hour/a head
Aug 28 18:49:54 <Reaga> but cm10 isnt a new versino of android is it
Aug 28 18:49:54 <tech1> do general testing on your hard device, and then one off tests on different emulator versions
Aug 28 18:50:12 <EdLin> Reaga, CM10 is jellybean. :)
Aug 28 18:50:14 * mikedg puts a mustache on reaga
Aug 28 18:50:30 <Reaga> oh
Aug 28 18:50:33 <p_l> Reaga: CyanogenMod is an alternative android distro, v10 is Android 4.1.1
Aug 28 18:50:35 <Hodapp> Reaga: why don't you try going through some tutorials, and see if you actually run into version issues.
Aug 28 18:50:50 <Reaga> EdLin: so is it faster
Aug 28 18:51:48 <Reaga> thers only cm9 for my phone anytwya
Aug 28 18:52:42 <lov> Reaga: you generally don't need to worry much about forwards compatibility, as long as you're not trying to re-invent any parts of the frameworks, or using dramatically customized theming.
Aug 28 18:53:18 <Reaga> i was going to make an app that allowed you to change android while it was running, for example increasing clock speeds to negative values - effectively allowing you to go backwards in time. Thoughts?
Aug 28 18:53:44 <Hodapp> ...
Aug 28 18:53:46 <p_l> lol
Aug 28 18:54:11 <SimonVT> I'd buy that
Aug 28 18:55:04 <wongk> a flux capacitor feature
Aug 28 18:55:10 <wongk> i like it
Aug 28 18:55:26 <canadiancow> flux capacitor eh?
Aug 28 18:56:01 <zambo> time travel would make analytics fun
Aug 28 18:57:05 <saik0> I'd be afraid of altering the past and filling my future with admob ads
Aug 28 18:57:13 <canadiancow> fucking facebook
Aug 28 18:57:19 <canadiancow> "Jane Doe sent you a message"
Aug 28 18:57:22 <canadiancow> email comes 30 minutes late
Aug 28 18:57:40 <Snuffel> she should have called then
Aug 28 18:57:47 <lov> seriously
Aug 28 18:57:49 <lov> go work for facebook
Aug 28 18:57:55 <canadiancow> no :(
Aug 28 18:58:03 <canadiancow> although
Aug 28 18:58:07 <canadiancow> their android app DOES need some work
Aug 28 19:00:08 <mikedg> facebook needs a canadian cow like they need a hole in their head
Aug 28 19:00:23 <americancow> giddyup
Aug 28 19:02:54 <canadiancow> what's big, yellow, and translucent?
Aug 28 19:03:03 <canadiancow> because i see some clouds...
Aug 28 19:03:34 <jrockjiggz> this is: http://www.uniquemechanics.com/index.php/ice-watch-ne-yw-neon-big-yellow-transparent-strap-with-white-dial-watch.html
Aug 28 19:25:15 <android_dev_newb> good evening, I'm new to android dev, I started developing my first app and now, I've got a question.
Aug 28 19:25:15 <android_dev_newb> I have to create a new process, which has to determine periodicly the position of phone and put lat, lon to a webserver. Sometimes, the Process must send the Server response to the a Activity, or putting notifications in the android system tray.
Aug 28 19:25:15 <android_dev_newb> I think a Service would be the best solution. But what kind of Service? Can someone send me a good example?
Aug 28 19:25:15 <android_dev_newb> The MinSdk is seven
Aug 28 19:26:24 <wongk> not exactly starting simple, eh?
Aug 28 19:27:01 <wongk> http://developer.android.com/guide/components/services.html
Aug 28 19:28:50 <canadiancow> i swear t ogod
Aug 28 19:29:00 <canadiancow> just notified by our continuous integration, build's broken
Aug 28 19:29:07 <canadiancow> someone has code: @Overrideg
Aug 28 19:29:09 <canadiancow> :|
Aug 28 19:29:15 <wongk> hah
Aug 28 19:29:23 <canadiancow> not "hah"
Aug 28 19:29:26 <canadiancow> how do you fucking commit that shit
Aug 28 19:29:31 <wongk> no buildy before check-iny
Aug 28 19:29:37 <canadiancow> committing a syntax error to the primary development branch
Aug 28 19:29:50 <wongk> naughty naughty developer
Aug 28 19:29:52 <canadiancow> tis isnt like canadiancow_test_branch
Aug 28 19:30:21 <wongk> just take them out back and put them down
Aug 28 19:30:24 <wongk> it's best for everyone
Aug 28 19:30:35 <Hodapp> This was something that happened to me fairly often in Visual Studio because that stupid fucking application would always steal focus at random times and keystrokes would make it into files - especially when I was testing the app right before a commit, so I'd already built.
Aug 28 19:32:59 <android_dev_newb> wongk what do you mean with simple? I made an AsyncTask, but not sure if I qet the requirements with that one? How can I make that easier?
Aug 28 19:33:37 <wongk> i mean you didn't exactly start with "hello world"
Aug 28 19:34:03 <android_dev_newb> ohh
Aug 28 19:34:18 <android_dev_newb> Of course, I already made the hello world app :)
Aug 28 19:35:12 <android_dev_newb> While studying, I made a lot of java, already created several Activities and now, I have to solve this problem
Aug 28 19:35:53 <wongk> ic
Aug 28 19:35:53 <ixfel> can't you just use a normal service that periodically sends the location information to the external server? I don't think you need an AsyncTask for that
Aug 28 19:36:08 <wongk> yes you do
Aug 28 19:36:26 <wongk> service runs on the main thread
Aug 28 19:38:30 <android_dev_newb> but when the app dies, my service is also gone?
Aug 28 19:39:12 <wongk> what do you mean by "when the app ides"?
Aug 28 19:39:15 <wongk> dies
Aug 28 19:39:28 <canadiancow> +1
Aug 28 19:39:38 <canadiancow> die == crash?
Aug 28 19:39:42 <canadiancow> die == killed for memory?
Aug 28 19:39:47 <Hodapp> hrmph, so I have to keep this activity from doing some things during onPause until some async tasks have finished... does AsyncTask give me any way to accomplish this without callbacks or polling?
Aug 28 19:39:48 <canadiancow> die == Actvitiy goes away?
Aug 28 19:39:51 <android_dev_newb> When the app gets terminated because Memory is full (a lot of further apps had been started) the OS terminates the app
Aug 28 19:39:54 <android_dev_newb> is this correct?
Aug 28 19:40:05 <evancharlton> yes
Aug 28 19:40:10 <evancharlton> and yes, your service will also be killed
Aug 28 19:40:17 <wongk> your app will have a higher priorty if the service is running
Aug 28 19:40:18 <evancharlton> in fact, your whole process will be killed
Aug 28 19:40:22 <Hodapp> oh, derp. AsyncTask.get()
Aug 28 19:40:25 <preds_> is drawable-xlarge-hdpi a valid resource folder?
Aug 28 19:40:27 <wongk> but it can still die
Aug 28 19:40:40 <canadiancow> preds, yes, what device is that?
Aug 28 19:41:05 <preds_> canadiancow, I'm converting an existing app for xlarge tablet devices
Aug 28 19:41:11 <canadiancow> yea that's cool
Aug 28 19:41:16 <canadiancow> i just dont know any xlarge hdpi devices :P
Aug 28 19:41:25 <canadiancow> my xlarge is mdpi and my large is tvdpi
Aug 28 19:41:35 <preds_> ahh I have the Asus TF700 on my desk atm :)
Aug 28 19:41:39 <preds_> which is xlarge/hdpi
Aug 28 19:41:45 <android_dev_newb> ok, I will use a regular Service for that - as my nick says, I'm new to android_dev. Thanks a lot for your answers :)
Aug 28 19:41:54 <preds_> but the question was just related to using size qualifiers in the drawable, I've only seen dpi before
Aug 28 19:42:07 <canadiancow> yep you can use anyhting anywhere
Aug 28 19:42:12 <evancharlton> False
Aug 28 19:42:18 <canadiancow> really?
Aug 28 19:42:26 <evancharlton> you cannot use drawable-v11-v4-xhdpi-ldpi
Aug 28 19:42:32 <evancharlton> well maybe you could, but I would hope not.
Aug 28 19:42:36 <canadiancow> ok thats not what i meant
Aug 28 19:42:40 <canadiancow> and you know it
Aug 28 19:42:42 <evancharlton> :)
Aug 28 19:44:06 <canadiancow> it's scary that my cell network (which is the shittiest in canada) has faster data speeds than my office wifi :(
Aug 28 19:44:56 <lut4rp> I never expected canadiancow to actually *be* from Canada :P
Aug 28 19:45:28 <canadiancow> im leaving soon
Aug 28 19:45:33 <zambo> on wind/mobilicity?
Aug 28 19:45:43 <canadiancow> wind
Aug 28 19:45:49 <canadiancow> :P
Aug 28 19:45:54 <zambo> I get 1-2 mbps on mobilicity
Aug 28 19:45:57 <canadiancow> although their speeds are like 6 times faster today
Aug 28 19:46:01 <canadiancow> im getting 6 down on wind in downtown toronto
Aug 28 19:46:06 <canadiancow> which is unheard of during business hours
Aug 28 20:21:22 <mark06> it's not possible to join a contact with me contact in ICS, however Google+ app does something like that. How can an app do that, so that I can write an app myself for achieving it?
Aug 28 20:32:00 <vavirta> Did I remember correctly that google has a policy that developers (we) should have the same api than their apps?
Aug 28 20:32:37 <vavirta> don't know how to do that, but just wondering if it is even possible :P
Aug 28 20:34:12 <dr_traktor> vavirta, do what, possible what?
Aug 28 20:35:25 <vavirta> just commeting on mark06 message
Aug 28 20:35:37 <vavirta> 23:21:22 < mark06> it's not possible to join a contact with me contact in ICS, however Google+ app does something like that. How can an app do that, so that I can write an app myself for achieving it?
Aug 28 20:35:52 <mark06> vavirta: sorry I just cleared screen after you sent your first message, what was it?
Aug 28 20:36:28 <vavirta> umm, I was just wondering that I've read somewhere that google is doing their apps with the same api than we do
Aug 28 20:36:58 <vavirta> and just though it should be possible
Aug 28 20:37:09 <dr_traktor> very much possible
Aug 28 20:37:14 <vavirta> but I'm not 100% sure
Aug 28 20:37:18 <vavirta> that was just my point :P
Aug 28 20:37:27 <dr_traktor> in fact i think the api could be better if this would not be the case
Aug 28 20:37:39 <vavirta> yeah
Aug 28 20:38:04 <vavirta> ofcourse there is difference what you can achiev with an api you've made yourself :P
Aug 28 20:38:08 <vavirta> +e
Aug 28 20:38:30 <dr_traktor> sometimes i have the feeling that they used a class somewhere in their app and they just released it to us without thinking about generality and reusability
Aug 28 20:39:26 <dr_traktor> well the point of an api is that its general set of tools so yeah, it should be stupid to develop two different apis
Aug 28 20:41:38 <g00s> hmm. http://www.thepowerbase.com/2012/08/f-droid-the-android-market-that-respects-your-rights/
Aug 28 20:42:32 <vavirta> dr_traktor: yeah, that's true
Aug 28 20:42:45 <vavirta> but for example apple does things with their apps beyond "developer api"
Aug 28 20:43:23 <vavirta> so there is some things that you can't achieve (for example sending sms, if I'm correct)
Aug 28 20:47:51 <Hodapp> dr_traktor: It's only stupid if their top priority is minimizing their work for what the developer sees.
Aug 28 20:48:40 <Hodapp> In the real world, it's usually not stupid, just annoying.
Aug 28 21:05:44 <nicktastic> I'm writing a service to manage the power state of the hard disk in my tablet, which is controlled via sysfs. Is there a way to grant a service write permission for /sys?
Aug 28 21:07:44 <SuD> i think only way is in rooted phones
Aug 28 21:08:27 <nicktastic> Argh
Aug 28 21:11:07 <nicktastic> Shouldn't I be able to run as uid 0 if I specify android:sharedUserId="android.uid.system" in my manifest, and sign the apk with the platform key?
Aug 28 21:11:48 <nicktastic> Or is system not uid 9
Aug 28 21:11:50 <nicktastic> *0
Aug 28 21:12:19 <nicktastic> Ah 1000
Aug 28 21:20:35 <americancow> nicktastic: sure
Aug 28 21:20:42 <americancow> just use the constants
Aug 28 21:21:21 <canadiancow> yo
Aug 28 21:21:23 <canadiancow> like seriously man
Aug 28 21:21:55 <g00s> who is the real cow ?
Aug 28 21:22:22 <canadianpie> canadiancow is the first cow
Aug 28 21:22:30 <canadiancow> oh god
Aug 28 21:22:46 <canadiancow> so who's excited about the new kindle fire!
Aug 28 21:22:53 <canadianpie> new kindle fire?
Aug 28 21:22:53 <canadianpie> where
Aug 28 21:22:59 <canadiancow> well it's a rumour
Aug 28 21:23:07 <canadianpie> do you have pics?
Aug 28 21:23:16 <canadiancow> no
Aug 28 21:23:26 <nicktastic> Thanks :)
Aug 28 21:23:44 <canadianpie> my myyy miss canadian pie
Aug 28 21:24:07 <g00s> i'm not sure amazon is good for the android ecosystem
Aug 28 21:24:35 <g00s> i haven't been excited by their existing kindle fire
Aug 28 21:25:12 <canadianpie> amazon is good for amazons ecosystem
Aug 28 21:25:41 <g00s> yey another garden
Aug 28 21:26:23 <canadianpie> theres a garden in my pants
Aug 28 21:27:32 <canadiancow> can you fork something twice on github into different orgs?
Aug 28 21:27:41 <canadiancow> all i see is a "your fork" button
Aug 28 21:29:29 <canadiancow> nm
Aug 28 21:29:31 <canadiancow> h4xed
Aug 28 21:34:55 <code1> There's no native SeekBarPreference is there?
Aug 28 21:40:04 <SimonVT> Did you check the dev site?
Aug 28 21:40:22 <code1> Yes.
Aug 28 21:40:35 <dr_traktor> code1, want to pick a number?
Aug 28 21:40:57 <code1> dr_traktor: Sure, 83.
Aug 28 21:41:06 <dr_traktor> code, what api level?
Aug 28 21:41:30 <code1> dr_traktor: lol, oh right. 8
Aug 28 21:42:04 <dr_traktor> meh, i created a numberpickerpreference myself but that needs 10 or 11
Aug 28 21:42:14 <dr_traktor> point is, i couldnt find a native one myself
Aug 28 21:43:08 <code1> Yeah from memory I don't remeber seeing a numberpicker preference either. Really odd since Android uses both preferences!
Aug 28 21:43:45 <code1> Maybe they didn't feel developer deserved those preference widgets! ;)
Aug 28 21:53:56 <Reaga> im learning android
Aug 28 21:54:05 <dr_traktor> congrats
Aug 28 21:54:06 <Reaga> why is there so much crud in android. java was so simple
Aug 28 21:54:20 <Reaga> theres like 2000 lines of crud before you can write hello world
Aug 28 21:54:35 <dr_traktor> its because android runs on a mobile phone
Aug 28 21:54:48 <dr_traktor> and a phone is a very different environment from a pc
Aug 28 21:54:48 <Reaga> are u implying a phone is more complex than a desktop
Aug 28 21:54:57 <dr_traktor> in certain ways it is
Aug 28 21:55:26 <Zharf> O_O
Aug 28 21:56:46 <g00s> canadiancow: you have to do something, canadianpie is now coming up first on autocomplete !
Aug 28 21:56:52 <g00s> http://i.imgur.com/oct0K.jpg
Aug 28 21:57:10 <Reaga> i tried to write this        .setIcon(R.drawable.icon)
Aug 28 21:57:21 <Reaga> but it says an error (red squiggly line under icon)
Aug 28 22:05:52 <g00s> whatever happened to that actionbar thing google mentioned at I/O
Aug 28 22:08:48 <JakeWharton> it's doing just fine
Aug 28 22:09:28 <JakeWharton> it actually wonders how you've been since I/O as well
Aug 28 22:09:40 <g00s> great !
Aug 28 22:15:22 <Reaga> i have this line setContentView(R.layout.activity_main); // but this doesnt work for the current version of android. what should it be
Aug 28 22:15:46 <Reaga> oops
Aug 28 22:16:01 <Reaga> i meant to paste .setIcon(R.drawable.icon)
Aug 28 22:17:21 <Reaga> ok im bored of this
Aug 28 22:17:29 <Reaga> whats the best way to learn android
Aug 28 22:17:34 <Reaga> dont direct me to android.com plz
Aug 28 22:17:40 <Zharf> read d.android.com
Aug 28 22:17:46 <Reaga> u may aswell direct me to fucking google
Aug 28 22:18:24 <Reaga> android.com is just an advert saying jellybean is available
Aug 28 22:19:16 <g00s> http://developer.android.com/develop/index.html
Aug 28 22:19:18 <Zharf> d.android.com has links at the top
Aug 28 22:19:23 <g00s> notice 'android training' on the left
Aug 28 23:16:06 <HorizonXP> if you had an app that allowed you to ship something to your address
Aug 28 23:16:20 <HorizonXP> and the list of addresses were shown in a Spinner dropdown
Aug 28 23:16:27 <HorizonXP> how would you expect to be able to add a new address?
Aug 28 23:16:39 <HorizonXP> a "New..." item in the dropdown?
Aug 28 23:17:25 <HorizonXP> trying to determine how best to show these to the user
Aug 28 23:19:17 <marcab> New in the dropdown sounds good.  I also often see +/- for adding/removing.
Aug 28 23:20:34 <SpeedEvil> 'new address' first in the list?
Aug 28 23:20:57 <HorizonXP> what about changing it to be a dialog?
Aug 28 23:21:14 <HorizonXP> so when you click the address field, it pops up a dialog that lists all the available addresses
Aug 28 23:21:32 <HorizonXP> and you can edit or delete them from that list, or add a new one
Aug 28 23:42:18 <Reaga> guys
Aug 28 23:42:23 <Reaga> is there a good way to learn android
Aug 28 23:42:27 <Reaga> whats the best way to learn it
Aug 28 23:43:03 * Jug6ernaut always says dive straight in
Aug 28 23:43:17 <Reaga> Jug6ernaut: what book do i use though
Aug 28 23:43:23 <Jug6ernaut> obviously setup the android build enviroment
Aug 28 23:43:26 <Reaga> ye
Aug 28 23:43:27 <Jug6ernaut> im not a fan of books
Aug 28 23:43:36 <Jug6ernaut> when google has more then enough
Aug 28 23:43:41 <Reaga> *than
Aug 28 23:43:44 <Jug6ernaut> information that is
Aug 28 23:43:53 <Reaga> are u serious
Aug 28 23:43:55 <Reaga> u dont have book
Aug 28 23:43:56 <Jug6ernaut> if u say so
Aug 28 23:43:59 <Reaga> no ownder u arent book smart
Aug 28 23:44:10 <Jug6ernaut> ironic isnt it
Aug 28 23:44:17 <Reaga> i need more books
Aug 28 23:44:22 <Reaga> anyone have an idea
Aug 28 23:45:36 <SpeedEvil> Books tend to date _rapidly_
Aug 28 23:45:48 * SpeedEvil looks at his copy of the PCMCIA 1.2 standard.
Aug 28 23:45:50 <Reaga> SpeedEvil: whats your point
Aug 28 23:46:31 <Jug6ernaut> learning out dated information is a waste of time
Aug 28 23:47:34 <Reaga> yeah
Aug 28 23:47:36 <Reaga> its bad
Aug 28 23:47:40 <Reaga> i need a gr8 book
Aug 28 23:48:40 <Jug6ernaut> http://developer.android.com/index.html
Aug 28 23:49:47 <Reaga> thats no book
Aug 28 23:50:14 <SimonVT> Print it and pretend it is
Aug 28 23:50:26 <Jug6ernaut> ^^^
Aug 28 23:51:13 <Reaga> its gay
Aug 28 23:51:25 <Reaga> anyway ill read it all
Aug 28 23:51:28 <Reaga> and be done with it
Aug 28 23:51:41 <doogan> lol nice
Aug 28 23:51:47 <Jug6ernaut> read it all...gl with that
Aug 28 23:52:05 <calvinchan> has anyone worked with setprevnextlisteners before?
Aug 28 23:52:06 <calvinchan> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7680902/how-to-active-next-prev-controls-on-android-mediacontroller
Aug 28 23:52:11 <calvinchan> I don't understand how to set it up
Aug 28 23:52:12 <doogan> every single last overloaded method description
Aug 29 00:00:10 <calvinchan> should I call setprevnextlisteners from media controller or video view?
Aug 29 00:33:59 <diki> Am I wrong somewhere here? My dialog, makes my app crash http://pastebin.com/sjkkyKE9
Aug 29 00:34:43 <dlaroche> diki: can you paste your error from Logcat?
Aug 29 00:34:52 <diki> cannot, OS freezes.
Aug 29 00:35:03 <dlaroche> diki: yes you can
Aug 29 00:35:12 <diki> As in, phone freezes when I try to execute the dialog.
Aug 29 00:35:22 <dlaroche> I'm assuming you have an error in your xml file that you are referencing
Aug 29 00:35:22 <diki> needs to be rebooted and so will the log
Aug 29 00:35:43 <dlaroche> then you have more problems then a dialog  box not showing
Aug 29 00:36:01 <diki> http://pastebin.com/gbPErMvW
Aug 29 00:37:05 <dlaroche> diki: where do you set the text for your TextView?
Aug 29 00:37:34 <diki> I suppose I do not. But that shouldn't be causing this, or am I wrong?
Aug 29 00:39:20 <dlaroche> diki: try this http://pastebin.com/W9gYjYb7
Aug 29 00:41:25 <SimonVT> Also, try not to use application context
Aug 29 00:45:18 <diki> nah still doesnt work
Aug 29 00:45:44 <dlaroche> diki: let me guess...you are running a custom rom?
Aug 29 00:45:54 <diki> wrong
Aug 29 00:46:13 <diki> Everything is stock, but I guess I might have fucked it up after recovering from a brick
Aug 29 00:46:25 <diki> Been planning full wipe
Aug 29 00:46:27 <dlaroche> diki: then without a Logcat we can't really help you
Aug 29 00:46:29 <diki> with stock rom
Aug 29 00:46:46 <diki> dlaroche:No, wait, I found out that logcat works even after my "freeze".
Aug 29 00:47:13 <dlaroche> diki: then give us a pastebin. that will help greatly
Aug 29 00:49:27 <diki> http://pastebin.com/NhSeeWSm
Aug 29 00:50:36 * SimonVT looks at his last message
Aug 29 00:51:09 <canadiancow> but SimonVT
Aug 29 00:51:15 <canadiancow> you ALWAYS use the app context
Aug 29 00:51:17 <canadiancow> because it's like
Aug 29 00:51:18 <canadiancow> for the app
Aug 29 00:51:26 <canadiancow> so it's safe to use ANYwhere
Aug 29 00:51:28 * SimonVT kills a cow
Aug 29 00:51:40 <dlaroche> diki: past your whole activity code
Aug 29 00:52:13 <g00s> the only way i was able to reboot my phone was to create a malformed notification
Aug 29 00:52:23 <g00s> which was, like just missing one field
Aug 29 00:52:59 <dlaroche> look at line 52 of your activity code
Aug 29 00:53:28 <diki> line 52 is createDialog();
Aug 29 00:53:32 <diki> which is what you had posted
Aug 29 00:53:47 <dlaroche> Caused by: android.view.WindowManager$BadTokenException: Unable to add window -- token null is not for an application
Aug 29 00:54:46 <diki> which is what happens when I attempt to create the dialog.
Aug 29 00:55:07 <diki> My app runs fine without, but if I want a dialog, there's a need for it then.
Aug 29 00:55:41 <dlaroche> http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/dialogs.html
Aug 29 00:55:59 <dlaroche> see if using DialogBuilder heps
Aug 29 00:56:03 <dlaroche> ^helps
Aug 29 00:56:46 <diki> the alertdialog builder works, I've tested that
Aug 29 00:56:54 <diki> however what I wanted was to use the Holo theme.
Aug 29 00:59:38 <diki> and here is the fix http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2634991/android-1-6-android-view-windowmanagerbadtokenexception-unable-to-add-window
Aug 29 01:00:22 <dlaroche> hmm....interesting
Aug 29 01:01:11 <diki> yeah, works now
Aug 29 01:01:22 <diki> so Context mcontext = this;
Aug 29 01:02:30 <diki> and Dialog dialog = new Dialog(this); should probably work as well
Aug 29 01:27:20 <HorizonXP> for a Spinner, what do you guys typically use for the dropdown item view?
Aug 29 01:27:32 <HorizonXP> simple_spinner_dropdown_item yields pretty small touch targets
Aug 29 01:27:36 <HorizonXP> larger text would be nice
Aug 29 01:32:57 <historypeats> does anyone know if examples for overly broad permissions?
Aug 29 01:33:06 <historypeats> i was reading a security document which talked about this
Aug 29 01:33:23 <historypeats> but I can't think of any overly broad permissions which can be substituded for a more fine grain one
Aug 29 01:33:38 <historypeats> substitute*
Aug 29 01:33:40 <historypeats> d
Aug 29 01:35:38 <historypeats> also, i read that activities by default are exported
Aug 29 01:36:06 <historypeats> from reading the android tutorial, i was under the impression they weren't unless you put an intent-filter (can be empty) or android:exported=true
Aug 29 01:44:54 <ixfel> an overly broad permission may be the INTERNET permission
Aug 29 01:46:30 <vm> why I always failed getting android source? i follow the instruction on android source page, type repo init -u and it says network is unreachable.
Aug 29 01:47:30 <ixfel> are you initializing the android source from within a VM? That's the only time I had such unreachable issues
Aug 29 01:48:30 <vm> ixfel: yes exactly. why is that?
Aug 29 01:49:19 <vm> ixfel: how to resolve this problem? do you know?
Aug 29 01:50:32 <mr6> vm: you'll have better luck in #android
Aug 29 01:50:37 <ixfel> to be honest, I don't remember how I got around it :(
Aug 29 01:50:44 <mr6> vm: this chan is for android app dev
Aug 29 01:51:42 <vm> why I always failed getting android source? i follow the instruction on android source page, type repo init -u and it says network is unreachable.
Aug 29 01:52:04 <vm> sorry wrong msg
Aug 29 01:56:51 <safemode>  anyone have a link or so to where google got it's numbers for maguro's power consumption  reported in power_profile.xml ?   it's got arrays for power consumption at each frequency of the stock cpu and they dont look like they match anything even close to what's in the technical documentation for the omap 4460
Aug 29 02:00:42 <tophyr> safemode: are google's #'s higher or lower?
Aug 29 02:02:40 <safemode> way way lower
Aug 29 02:03:03 <safemode> but i only have max values to look at..  but even if these were nominal-ish.. they are roughly a quarter of what the tech document says
Aug 29 02:03:51 <safemode> like max at 1200Mhz for cpu should is listed as 1800ma.   google has 397
Aug 29 02:04:06 <safemode> s/should//
Aug 29 02:04:44 <safemode> i could see a nominal usage of like   900ma   maybe ... but i have no way of knowing where google got their number s
Aug 29 02:11:31 <g00s> hm, if i use an LGPL library, i would have to release the source code for my app… correct ?
Aug 29 02:11:51 <g00s> always found the LGPL confusing
Aug 29 02:12:28 <mr6> lgpl is more permissive
Aug 29 02:12:52 <mr6> so most likely you can incorporate lib and not share source
Aug 29 02:13:00 <mr6> but I wouldn't get legal advice on IRC ;>
Aug 29 02:13:06 <g00s> :)
Aug 29 02:15:00 <mr6> g00s: do you mind if I ask what lib?
Aug 29 02:15:21 <g00s> yeah, https://github.com/jjoe64/GraphView
Aug 29 02:15:51 <g00s> it has some technical issues which i will need to fix
Aug 29 02:16:27 <Leeds> g00s: short form is... LGPL means if you change the *library* you have to release changes, GPL means if you *link* with the library you have to provide the result (i.e. library+app) under the GPL
Aug 29 02:16:32 <Ologn> g00s, no
Aug 29 02:16:33 <mr6> I would contact the author if I was unsure, and with 'linking' terminogly in the LGPL being written for compiled shared objects...
Aug 29 02:16:46 <Ologn> g00s, you have to release your modifications to the library
Aug 29 02:16:48 <mr6> it is hard to say if it covers dex classes
Aug 29 02:17:24 <g00s> thanks Ologn , Leeds , mr6
Aug 29 02:17:57 <Ologn> g00s, I use an LGPL library for my Microsoft Access handling app.  I've released my library changes (handling Access 2010 better) but not the Android source code.
Aug 29 02:18:10 <g00s> ok
Aug 29 02:23:21 <safemode> i think the lgpl is just not viral ....  so you can use it without having to release the source to your program that is using it..  but if it were gpl, you would have to release the source to the program that's using the gpl lib.
Aug 29 02:41:00 <edwinkcw> Hi all, I have a problem about surfaceview. I have a surface view which has a background thread keep updating the view. Then I put this surface view in relative layout and added a sliding drawer as well. After that, the surface view doesn't draw probably, there is nothing show up. I watch the log and see the thread is keep call on draw event which is expected. But I don't know why there is nothing shows up. Anybody helps?
Aug 29 02:55:48 <jalmeida> Is there any easy way to encrypt in android, someone could provide me an example?
Aug 29 02:56:19 <mr6> heh that isn't vague at all
Aug 29 02:56:42 <Leeds> jalmeida: when you went to the docs site and put "encrypt" into the search box, didn't it work?
Aug 29 02:57:33 <mr6> it's probably in proprietary SDK add-on
Aug 29 02:58:06 <jalmeida> Leeds: I searched, but I found the examples very difficult
Aug 29 02:59:54 <mr6> jalmeida: just out of curiousity, what do you want to encrypt?
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