**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 24 02:59:59 2012 Sep 24 03:01:57 Random question, is there a maximum length to logcat messages with Log? Sep 24 03:02:02 I felt like I was getting some text cut off Sep 24 03:02:06 but I didn't experiment too much Sep 24 03:04:20 Ah yes, it looks like the maximum log buffer length is 4kb.. Sep 24 03:40:27 hi all Sep 24 03:40:56 http://pastebin.com/WrVmVuSw can anyone point out what wrong with this manifes file Sep 24 03:41:03 Does anyone use jUint in their dev cycle? Sep 24 03:41:22 getting [INSTALL_PARSE_FAILED_MANIFEST_MALFORMED] Sep 24 03:46:13 anybody there? Sep 24 04:00:38 wurde, sometimes Sep 24 04:00:43 with robolectric Sep 24 04:01:17 Loonacy, try cleaning your project and reastarting eclipse, sometimes helpes Sep 24 04:01:43 or add some new stuff to your manifest, it's a weird error to get rid of Sep 24 04:02:09 so there is nothing wrong with the semantics/ syntax of the file ? ? Sep 24 04:15:15 Looney: generally not.. Sep 24 04:15:55 can you have a look at the pastie Sep 24 04:16:23 I mean, eclipse does not even give a warning (yellow) sign anywhere on the whole file Sep 24 04:16:33 hey guys, so I have a custom view that recycles items in its layout. seemingly works fine Sep 24 04:16:34 build also works fine Sep 24 04:16:49 only the install on emulator/ device fails Sep 24 04:16:50 problem is that when I scroll, it's somewhat janky. logcat shows a bunch of garbage collection items Sep 24 04:18:38 is there a way to delay GC? Sep 24 04:19:10 yes, don't consume memory which will take time to collect Sep 24 04:19:12 @alex_PP great link, thanks. Sep 24 04:21:18 Hi all, new to android dev here. I have a SQLitedatabase that I'm inserting rows into via an AsyncTask when the user clicks on a log in button. While this asynctask is running in the background, my app starts a new activity which queries the database for rows that were inserted and displays these rows using a listview backed by a SimpleCursorAdapter. However, I'm noticing that the first time the list Sep 24 04:21:18 view is displayed (when the db is empty), it is empty even though the cursor.getCount() is non-zero. Does anyone know how I can update my listview? I tried calling notifyDataSetChanged() on my cursorAdapter, but it doesn't appear to update the listview. Sep 24 04:22:05 Any help appreciated it Sep 24 04:22:08 Thanks! Sep 24 04:23:35 Lee Sep 24 04:24:56 Hello. Sep 24 04:25:00 Is it possible to develop for android using Python? Sep 24 04:25:33 Leeds: I'm trying to figure out what I can avoid consuming... not seeing it :( Sep 24 04:25:48 Shazer[2]: yes, but mainly no Sep 24 04:26:22 you can build simple scripts which hook into Android with sl4a, but you can't build full first-class apps Sep 24 04:26:42 I'm using actionbar sherlock. I use this code to populate list navigation : https://gist.github.com/3774181 But instead of using the actionbar context, I tried using the activity context and it works fine. Can someone tell me why the actionbar context is used in abs examples? Sep 24 04:26:42 Shazer[2]: sl4a also has many limitations (last time I checked) Sep 24 04:26:53 Aww :( Sep 24 04:29:31 * napster thinks it is rather an abs specific question Sep 24 04:29:43 anyone? Sep 24 04:31:12 seanjean718: I have no idea as I am a noob but I'd be curious if you'd have the same result on a pre-ICS device. Have you tried? Sep 24 04:33:16 oops, I meant napster Sep 24 04:33:46 mrjeff: ok, Let me try on pre ICS device Sep 24 04:39:27 mrjeff: Yes I tried on android-10 device. It works fine except the fact that I get one E in the logcat which says : E/ResourceType(327): Style contains key with bad entry: 0x01000000 Sep 24 04:41:30 napster: ok that is good to know. I wish I could help you further. Sep 24 04:41:46 np Sep 24 04:50:42 mrjeff, no I haven't Sep 24 04:51:00 oh ? Sep 24 04:51:02 :S Sep 24 04:56:18 hey has anyone here played around with the mercury framework for android? Sep 24 05:04:59 Hey I'm trying to create a listview containing a checklist linked to a db within an androidsherlock fragment. Would like guidance if anyone is available. Sep 24 05:37:23 so supppper annoying, but logcat -d *curtails* part of the log Sep 24 05:37:30 Does anyone know how to avert this? Sep 24 05:37:44 I have tried with a -t option, without success Sep 24 05:38:14 I'll make the use case concrete: I do automated testing, where I pipe some values to the logcat and then do postprocessing on them, with a curtailed log, this is impossible. Sep 24 05:39:01 how is it curtailed? Sep 24 05:40:28 When I watch the logcat in another term, I see tons of stuff fly by. When I do a "logcat -d" at a terminal next to it, I see only the most recent n lines (I don't know n exactly but could find out..) Sep 24 05:41:15 I've never experienced this Sep 24 05:41:59 Damn. Before doing this, I typically do a logcat -c to clear the log, I'm wondering if it could somehow have a sort of ... delayed effect (as a long shot..)... but wait a while still doesn't produce different results.. Sep 24 05:46:54 Hm,.... interesting. Sep 24 05:47:05 well, I'll try to figure it out, sorry for complaining.. Sep 24 05:51:57 Is there anything of which I should be particularly careful if I have an app writing a large amount of data to the log? Sep 24 05:52:17 I've found that the log comes in 4k chunks, so I need to split up text for this to work, but I wonder if that could somehow contribute to this problem Sep 24 05:53:33 sounds to me like you're... just doing wrong things Sep 24 05:54:07 Leeds: for an app, yeah, but this is for a hacky research project. Sep 24 05:54:29 I'd suggest making it less hacky :) Sep 24 05:57:17 Leeds: well to be completely honest, that's good advice, and in the real world I would deliver this to a web service with a good background service on an alarm manager and feeding the output through a JSON base. But at the same time, developing that would take more time than I have, and I would appreciate being able to debug my logcat woes without having to spend the extra few days having to write that up. Sep 24 05:57:48 just dump your data to a file or something Sep 24 05:58:48 Leeds: doing that now, but I had hoped someone would have a quick fix for this, i.e., a switch for logcat not to do this. Sep 24 05:59:07 meh Sep 24 06:00:09 I can apprecite the aversion to doing things the cheap way, but when it saves you a bunch of time, I don't feel so bad about it.. Sep 24 06:02:32 I vaguely member having logcat issue similar Sep 24 06:02:49 Fixed it with a setting found within Eclipse and its been a while sense Sep 24 06:02:53 since Sep 24 06:03:29 Hm.. this is over command line... Sep 24 06:03:39 Let me check to see if Eclipse has any magic hidden away... Sep 24 06:16:24 no discussions ? :D Sep 24 06:17:12 nah, it's lunchtime Sep 24 06:18:28 for me its class time :D Sep 24 06:19:30 then perhaps.., paying attention in class.....? Sep 24 06:19:38 heh... Sep 24 06:20:05 network programming and hes talking about TDM and FDM, been there done that Sep 24 06:24:07 http://pastebin.com/CcChz3wP <- I tried this but eventhough server doesn't respond(it's down) I don't get any error message shown. How I should correctly determine if httprequest fails due to server not responding? Sep 24 06:26:39 many sites list having an always-on service as an anti-pattern. but my service is subscribes to locationmanager for location updates, that are sent to a server. how would I do that without having the service always-on? Sep 24 06:26:54 my service subscribes* Sep 24 06:29:19 I'm using actionbar sherlock. I use this code to populate list navigation : https://gist.github.com/3774181 But instead of using the actionbar context, I tried using the activity context and it works fine. Can someone tell me why the actionbar context is used in abs examples? Sep 24 06:48:42 Lets say you use the Light.DarkActionBar theme.. A textview inflated with the activity context will have black text, but one inflated with the action bar context will have white text Sep 24 06:49:58 Black text on a dark background isn't very readable Sep 24 06:52:39 Which is why I tend to set the text color in TextViews manually all the time! Sep 24 06:53:05 that sounds like fun Sep 24 06:53:34 Sure is! Sep 24 06:54:08 anybody can help with the httprequest question? Seems the onPostExecute function gets called with empty string but despite that the alert dialog which should pop up on empty string response also fails to get called. Sep 24 07:02:37 tneva82: pastebin your code Sep 24 07:10:12 can i hide these "has joined android dev" messages Sep 24 07:10:27 depends on your IRC client Sep 24 07:10:42 web irc :D Sep 24 07:26:31 Leeds: I was being whiney.. writing a file ended up being just fine and was probably just what I should have done to begin with. Sep 24 07:26:56 good that you've solved it :) Sep 24 07:27:41 it was more of a preplexed "this has never happened before. Why is this doing this? The logcat code doesn't seem to indicate that this should be happening" moment :-) Sep 24 07:28:21 I guess you were just pushing it more than it expects Sep 24 07:29:17 I've dumped small downloads there before, but not multi-Kb ones Sep 24 07:30:05 hey i am new to android-ndk . I was trying learn ndk through the blog http://marakana.com/forums/android/examples/49.html . i have done everything suggested but now i m getting the error Android NDK: Please define the NDK_PROJECT_PATH variable to point to it. About more here is the logcat http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12560538/problems-in-ndk-build-command . please guys anyone having ndk knowledge can help me? Sep 24 07:30:40 Yeah, well it's a pretty gross hack, we do binary instrumentation on apps (already pretty hacky), and then do a type of systematic testing to compare differences in rewritten apps, using some fancy instrumentation to compare results, so I was printing results to the log.. Sep 24 07:31:05 I figured I'd dig into the logger sources tomorrow to see if this was just me being absurdly dumb (assumedly so), or really a subtle bug. Sep 24 07:31:16 but I definitely agree that what I was doing was quite wrong... :-) Sep 24 07:31:21 ivru: [09:24] http://pastebin.com/CcChz3wP Sep 24 07:31:33 s/wrong/perverse. Sep 24 07:35:21 hi Sep 24 07:37:29 high Sep 24 07:42:47 #android-ndk Sep 24 07:43:59 #ndk Sep 24 07:49:02 is it possible to style the actionbar for the entire application at once? Sep 24 07:49:15 instead of applying theme on every activity Sep 24 07:49:38 i think so Sep 24 07:49:52 on the application tag Sep 24 07:49:56 inside the manifest Sep 24 07:50:13 KBZoiD: Yes, but the problem is with tileMode Sep 24 07:51:54 KBZoiD: It does not work on pre ICS Sep 24 07:52:38 KBZoiD: Well even if I extend the application class to do that, it seems impossible to set the background drawable for the actionbar from the application class Sep 24 07:53:17 tileMode was only broken in 1 or 2 HC versions Sep 24 07:53:22 for pre ICS use ActionBarSherlock Sep 24 07:53:26 And fixed pretty quickly Sep 24 07:53:41 KBZoiD: I'm already using actionbarsherlock Sep 24 07:54:33 SimonVT: well, I have applied the styling inside the application tag. and on running, tilemod does not work on API-10 emulator. Sep 24 07:54:52 I don't have pre ICS device to test :( Sep 24 07:55:14 Works fine for me Sep 24 07:55:22 * napster accidentally updated his phones to ICS and JB ;) Sep 24 07:55:41 SimonVT: on emulator? Sep 24 07:56:14 yes Sep 24 07:56:18 besides, it works perfectly on the galaxy nexus Sep 24 07:56:38 SimonVT: ok, then perhaps I might have done something wrong. Let me check once again Sep 24 08:01:53 SimonVT: ok, it works if I style it in the tag and do the PRE_ICS hack for tilemod-repeat in every activity Sep 24 08:02:15 on API-10 emulator Sep 24 08:03:48 hey! if i download and apk file through program, would this setting be correct: setRequestProperty("content-type", "multipart/form-data") ? Sep 24 08:04:51 SimonVT: I think the issue does exists on all pre honeycomb versions : http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22541 Sep 24 08:06:41 aah it was just my logic error. Dialog popped up just fine but it got hidden by the SECOND dialog that was popped. So first comes dialog that shows the error message and right after that the login screen dialog came and hid the first dialog. *oops* Sep 24 08:07:47 lol Sep 24 08:10:16 I have a startActivity in my onCreate, I want to this call synchronous Sep 24 08:10:43 I have seen from the Interwebz that this call is asynchronous Sep 24 08:11:31 startActivityForResult is not putting in the required charm Sep 24 08:19:46 * napster is using the pre-ics hack for tilemodRepeat the actionbar background, and using the styling in the application tag for now. :( Sep 24 08:20:48 how do you access the main_activity layout.. to add a view to it? Sep 24 08:21:48 or.. how else do I add things to the activity ...? Sep 24 08:22:14 I can add them in the .xml ... what would I add, though, were I to want to add a dynamic list of times Sep 24 08:23:41 ((ViewGroup) findViewById(R.id.yourViewGroup).addView(yourView); .. or, you know, use a listview Sep 24 08:32:06 hi SimonVT, nice to see you. Thanks. Sep 24 08:32:44 yeah I'm trying to add a listview right now.. something empty. Is it okay to use a table (I'm going to have some aligned buttons on the right side) Sep 24 08:33:28 hh1:mm1 X (<-- button to remove this time.. another button to edit it) Sep 24 08:34:33 or I could use a list and add the times, justified or in some other fixed-width type thing.. I'd prefer not to use a fixed-width though.. I'm new to android and the xml layouts, but well-acquainted with html and C ... Sep 24 08:39:04 I tried giving an id (@+id/main) to but eclipse warned that 'main' in R.id.main was not a field Sep 24 08:44:49 learning Java/ Android is a steep hill drive for people like us jaggz Sep 24 08:45:38 yes indeed Sep 24 08:45:39 that I can attest to Sep 24 08:45:43 Java has made me want to cry many times Sep 24 08:45:56 probably less crying than blender though Sep 24 08:46:09 is it possible to use pathclassloader to load an apk which can write some stuff to sdcard Sep 24 08:49:40 Hello all, my GSM Galaxy Nexus is not taking a system flash through fastboot, any ideas? Sep 24 08:50:19 #android-root Sep 24 08:50:48 I saw that in the title, should I still go there if it's just a stock image straight from google? Sep 24 08:51:10 yeah, this channel is for app developers Sep 24 08:51:22 ah, I see. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction Sep 24 08:51:33 no problem, good luck with your problem Sep 24 08:51:40 thanks Sep 24 08:52:18 Looney: If you have permission to write to external storage, you can load a dex file that writes there Sep 24 08:52:54 What if you want something like: "Current time: hh:mm"? made of a string (translatable) and a time? Sep 24 08:53:02 I'm doing it in code right now, but "Current time:" is hard coded Sep 24 08:53:32 hmm.. maybe I do a normal string, from resource strings, and the time as a text field aligned to its right? Sep 24 08:56:41 but I need those both centered.. hm Sep 24 08:58:54 this is the logic that I am applying SimonVT Sep 24 08:59:00 but its not working Sep 24 08:59:13 no exception and no file written to sdcard Sep 24 08:59:52 btw, I load a class Sep 24 09:00:05 from installed apk Sep 24 09:02:21 not even a class, only invoking a method which does the stint Sep 24 09:05:03 yeah seriously, how do you include things side-by-side? Sep 24 09:05:14 @string/current_time hh:mm Sep 24 09:05:23 and still be centered Sep 24 09:06:07 in HTML I might use a centered div and two 's in it Sep 24 09:09:41 I guess just a linear layout and the two items in it... works fer me :) Sep 24 09:18:42 can't find ctrl-pgup / pgdn for eclipse's next/previous tab bindings Sep 24 09:18:52 I'm trying to find how to switch between the layout's graphical and .xml view Sep 24 09:19:25 What processors do Android run on most? ARM? Sep 24 09:19:51 Ahoi. Can I register a Google Play developer account in the name of my company, pay for it with my personal Checkout/Wallet account, but from there on have no (immediately apparent) connection between my personal account and the company? Sep 24 09:20:26 i.e. don't have mybogusgmail@gmail.com show up anywhere that matters? Sep 24 09:20:54 *not have Sep 24 09:21:41 that's a good question.. Sep 24 09:22:05 one way to find out====== TRY Sep 24 09:24:24 KNERD: arm, mips, x86 Sep 24 09:27:56 but mostly arm Sep 24 09:28:33 i wonder how that new intel moto phone will do Sep 24 09:29:00 yeah, mips … haven't heard much there in a while Sep 24 09:37:24 I can't get my horizontal layout centered.. Current time: hh:mm .. it's expanded to fit the entire width of the android screen so "Current Time:" is left-justified Sep 24 09:40:12 jaggz, post your layout.xml please Sep 24 09:42:04 http://pastebin.com/AYBJSgn9 Sep 24 09:42:45 oh dear lord! Sep 24 09:42:52 wait, I should look before saying that... Sep 24 09:44:43 jaggz, dunno for sure, but why do you use gravity there? Sep 24 09:48:48 I'm trying to get the left and right to be joined.. it won't be needed if I get the two to shrink up Sep 24 09:49:54 lol leeds Sep 24 09:50:02 epg, posted Sep 24 09:55:59 g00s: did you get my messages? i got d/c Sep 24 09:56:17 no Sep 24 09:57:25 ok Sep 24 09:57:39 .I am trying to import a library with the NDK and it defaults to ARM unless I specifiy Sep 24 09:58:13 I think this would be a problem if the app is used in a device which is not arm Sep 24 09:58:40 oh, i'm not familiar with the ndk. sorry Sep 24 09:58:53 ok Sep 24 09:58:58 thanks Sep 24 09:59:37 jaggz: why are you even using a relativelayout, anyway? Sep 24 09:59:53 default that I started with Sep 24 10:00:05 first app sort of.. Sep 24 10:00:28 OMFG! Sep 24 10:00:39 ;-) Sep 24 10:02:15 oh, I thought this inserted ":ems" setting was some font thing automatically entered.. that's a width.. ugh Sep 24 10:09:32 got it.. finally Sep 24 10:10:10 and the answer was? Sep 24 10:10:52 42 Sep 24 10:17:19 happy monday Sep 24 10:18:14 is it? Sep 24 10:18:23 ever? Sep 24 10:19:13 i've got my starbucks and my drumnbass music Sep 24 10:19:18 ready to code up a storm Sep 24 10:19:21 i've got a headache Sep 24 10:19:32 the perfect storm? Sep 24 10:19:32 stayed up late to watch the game? Sep 24 10:19:38 what game? Sep 24 10:19:49 NFL? Sep 24 10:20:00 not really Sep 24 10:20:02 Ravens and Pats Sep 24 10:20:07 never heard of em Sep 24 10:20:08 amazing ending right there Sep 24 10:20:18 no way? Sep 24 10:20:25 America is not the center of the universe? Sep 24 10:20:32 i was about to say Sep 24 10:21:33 well for sports standards it was a right palm sweater Sep 24 10:21:46 oh well cool Sep 24 10:21:52 i am more of a baseball fan Sep 24 10:21:55 not that I watch that Sep 24 10:22:00 since it's in the middle of the night for me Sep 24 10:22:01 no way? yankees or redsox? Sep 24 10:22:05 and I have a toddler Sep 24 10:22:06 Cubs Sep 24 10:22:24 yowza.. good on you for appreciating the great american pasttime Sep 24 10:22:31 hehe Sep 24 10:22:57 America is the center of the multi-verses,,,get it right Sep 24 10:23:24 it sure is, MERICA! Sep 24 10:24:08 i like america Sep 24 10:24:11 except right now, gangnam style is the centre of the multiverses Sep 24 10:24:12 been there a couple of times Sep 24 10:24:23 oh yeah? which parts? Sep 24 10:24:37 most of the east in a mobile home :) Sep 24 10:24:39 whats an america Sep 24 10:24:44 between NYC and Miami Sep 24 10:24:48 Gangnam Gu? Sep 24 10:24:51 and Las Vegas twice Sep 24 10:24:55 Los Angeles, SF Sep 24 10:25:10 it was fun Sep 24 10:25:19 i love Denny's :) Sep 24 10:25:22 America - you know, the place where Google Play works Sep 24 10:25:23 gross Sep 24 10:25:29 oh gosh Sep 24 10:25:42 Denny's, where the avg customer weight is 400 kg Sep 24 10:26:07 google play doesn't work over there? Sep 24 10:26:08 yeag...fatty reconstituted frozen crap Sep 24 10:26:19 sdaq: only for apps here Sep 24 10:26:44 oh Sep 24 10:26:54 Hmm.. 5.1 in the developer agreement. Does this effectively null your copyright? Sep 24 10:27:10 sdaq: average weight is 400 Kg, :-o Sep 24 10:27:37 Looney: almost as bad as walmart customers Sep 24 10:28:08 and I thought that I am fat Sep 24 10:28:17 I am not even 90 Kg Sep 24 10:28:23 peopleofwalmart.com Sep 24 10:28:27 nobody is 400kg Sep 24 10:28:32 400lb, maybe... Sep 24 10:28:42 oh yeah?> lok at that site and see Sep 24 10:28:46 sorry I was tying to speak european Sep 24 10:28:48 there are plenty of people who are 400 Sep 24 10:28:51 kg Sep 24 10:29:26 European ? ? Sep 24 10:29:34 "Was ist das?" Sep 24 10:30:10 hey, its almost like when americans try to speak spanish to latinos Sep 24 10:30:40 aka - English Sep 24 10:30:51 "take out the garbage... you know... garbagio" Sep 24 10:31:03 :-D Sep 24 10:31:04 Have anyone faced this message in the error log : Failed to find style 'buttonStyle' in current theme I don't see any other associated issue and the app compiles fine. Sep 24 10:31:37 Why would someone speak Spanish to Latinos? Sep 24 10:31:37 this message appears in the error log and in the xml graphical layout editor Sep 24 10:32:15 KNERD: because not all latinos speak english Sep 24 10:32:22 napster: are you using a style called 'buttonStyle'? are you using any external layouts? do you *have* a style called buttonStyle? Sep 24 10:32:26 I thought Latinos speak Latin Sep 24 10:32:41 Leeds: I don't have such a style at all! Sep 24 10:32:45 KNERD: you're thinking of Catholics Sep 24 10:32:59 KNERD: its a vulgar type of latin Sep 24 10:33:01 no,,,the people from Latinus Sep 24 10:33:15 Central Italy Sep 24 10:34:21 napster: you don't have such a style, which is why it can't find it... but are you trying to *use* it, or using something else which could be trying to use it? Sep 24 10:34:32 so here is my issue with america. why is the drumnbass scene so tiny? Sep 24 10:34:57 There are also some "Romanized" who speak a type of Latin in Eastern Europe Sep 24 10:34:58 Leeds: well, let me search in the entire project for 'buttonStyle' reference Sep 24 10:35:06 drum** what?? Sep 24 10:35:11 sdaq: and I think we can call that the end of that conversation Sep 24 10:35:16 actually I didn't do anything special at all Sep 24 10:35:27 haha Sep 24 10:35:45 napster: but are you using any imported stuff, libraries, layouts you've copied from elsewhere? Sep 24 10:35:52 Leeds: we all have our wierd things I guess Sep 24 10:35:59 *weird Sep 24 10:36:05 Leeds: I use actionbar sherlock, nothing else Sep 24 10:36:12 sdaq: i like to dip my bananas into tea for example Sep 24 10:36:20 Guten Morgeb Nurnburg, hier ist Radio Gong Sep 24 10:36:21 hello everyone. im looking for a help regarding tabs on ActionBar. can anyone help me? Sep 24 10:36:25 funktronic: that is grotesque Sep 24 10:36:37 giwrgos: don't ask to ask, just ask Sep 24 10:36:53 sdaq: don't judge man Sep 24 10:37:05 how i can load an activity when a tab is clicked? Sep 24 10:37:06 funktronic: earl gray? or chamomile? Sep 24 10:37:13 napster: I think that's probably it Sep 24 10:37:15 sdaq: earl gray Sep 24 10:37:21 it's an English thing. Shortage of crumpets Sep 24 10:37:26 funktronic: stay classy my friend Sep 24 10:37:29 sdaq: english (or irish) breakfast for breakfast, then early gray Sep 24 10:37:45 funktronic: that sounds marvellous Sep 24 10:38:22 Earl Gray, hot! Sep 24 10:38:47 my hair is early grey :( Sep 24 10:39:21 hokkaido: from age or from being a hipster? Sep 24 10:39:35 age :( Sep 24 10:39:53 hokkaido: at least its just one then Sep 24 10:39:55 I drink oolong, green tea, and apparently guava tea... the gf makes it for me, dunno exactly what it is :) Sep 24 10:40:05 dagnap us young whipper snappers Sep 24 10:40:32 Leeds: Strange! I just restarted eclipse and it works fine now! Sep 24 10:40:42 that's Eclipse for you! Sep 24 10:40:46 napster: yay, problem solved! Sep 24 10:40:54 thanks Leeds :) Sep 24 10:41:00 Leeds: I am a fan of the herbal infusions... I have a black tea with some mint leaves from the garden Sep 24 10:41:18 Engrish Breakfast Sep 24 10:41:20 sdaq: I *do* live in China, it's sort of expected here :) Sep 24 10:41:51 Leeds: people don't appreciate tea in the US. have you ever had lipton?! Sep 24 10:42:10 I drink Green tea almost daily Sep 24 10:42:24 KNERD: i do sometimes at lunch. it's disgusting Sep 24 10:42:25 I also need me a Chinese gal Sep 24 10:42:30 standard Japanese green tea is often powdered Sep 24 10:42:42 KNERD: I do too... it is good for suppressing hunger Sep 24 10:42:44 I think it is smoother than black tea Sep 24 10:43:05 I drink almost 3 liters a day Sep 24 10:43:32 KNERD: dayum, thats a camelbak full of hot tea Sep 24 10:44:11 i drink it cold and with sweetner Sep 24 10:44:50 I drink tea cold and unsweetened Sep 24 10:44:56 green tea doesn't need sweetening Sep 24 10:44:59 its safer to drink it cold; thermal injury / inflammation from hot beverages is suspected to play a role in throat cancer Sep 24 10:45:07 i drink it whatever temperature it is and unsweetened Sep 24 10:45:15 and preferrably decafeinated Sep 24 10:45:37 g00s: rubbish! i will need some urlage for that Sep 24 10:45:38 good ol saccrane Sep 24 10:45:44 anyway... #android-tea Sep 24 10:46:08 yummy Sep 24 10:46:16 i like kusmi tea Sep 24 10:46:22 sdaq: http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/03/27/us-cancer-tea-idUSTRE52Q01620090327 Sep 24 10:46:42 Leeds: have your gf find me a nice 40kg cue china doll Sep 24 10:46:50 *cute Sep 24 10:46:56 iranian researchers :P Sep 24 10:46:57 "Iranian researchers" Sep 24 10:47:10 bwhaahahaa Sep 24 10:47:24 change that to "researchers" Sep 24 10:47:42 all their computers now play AC/DC Sep 24 10:48:19 their research made it to BMJ, so i dont care if it came from iran Sep 24 10:48:41 http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-07-25/iran-nuclear-plants-hit-by-virus-playing-ac-dc-report Sep 24 10:52:03 how i can load an activity when a tab is clicked? Sep 24 11:04:59 is it possible to send arbitrary data to and from my Android phone over a USB connection? Sep 24 11:05:16 I don't mind how, as long as my C++ server can send the data with minimal overhead as fast as possible Sep 24 11:05:28 Philpax: not sure, have you seen the ioio ? Sep 24 11:07:12 Philpax: with a usb-ethwrnet connect ion, sure Sep 24 11:07:33 g00s, while the ioio is interesting, I'm not looking for a hardware solution Sep 24 11:07:51 SpeedEvil, that sounds like a good idea; I'm already sending my data over a UDP connection, but there's far too much packet drop/latency for usability Sep 24 11:07:58 any suggestions on how to implement a usb/ethernet connection? Sep 24 11:08:49 it depends if your device supports it. Sep 24 11:09:02 there is an open source app with name something like SwiFTP Sep 24 11:09:13 I have a Nexus S Sep 24 11:09:16 it may require anything up to and including rooting and new kernel modules. Sep 24 11:09:35 this app is for me only, so I have no qualms about having to do device-specific configuration Sep 24 11:10:51 WiFi is too slow? Sep 24 11:11:31 yes Sep 24 11:12:13 I'm sending what is essentially MJPEG video at 30 FPS (easiest solution, alternative compression methods are complicated to implement) Sep 24 11:30:36 Hey people. Sep 24 11:31:54 The customer wants that the app name is something different from the app name *cry*. For example, imagine that the actual app name is "Cosmo Pack", but it should show up as "Star" Sep 24 11:32:22 I mean that the icon and advertisement will show "Cosmo Pack", while the little text below the icon in the launcher will say "Star". Sep 24 11:32:35 Can you give me any good arguments against this? Sep 24 11:33:02 That it is confusing for the users perhaps? Sep 24 11:33:12 So far I found "Alphabetical ordering in app list will be wrong, since you will find Cosmo Pack under S" Sep 24 11:33:53 Will the app even show up as Cosmo Pack in Google Play? Or will it be called "Star" there then? Sep 24 11:34:08 I mean, it's not possible to ONLY change the name the app has in the launcher, right? Sep 24 11:34:40 The name in play store is the name you enter in the dev console Sep 24 11:34:50 Has nothing to do with the title of your launcher icons Sep 24 11:34:51 The idea of the customer is that there will be two versions of the app "Cosmo Pack Star" and "Cosmo Pack Asteroid", and he wants to have "Cosmo Pack" in the icon and "Star" or "Asteroid" as a subtitle. Sep 24 11:35:37 Ah, that's good news. I didn't know that you could set the launcher title separately. Sep 24 11:36:07 So the app could still be called "Cosmo Pack" but show up as "Star" in the launcher? Sep 24 11:36:12 UnbertKant: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/manifest/activity-element.html#label Sep 24 11:36:12 Yes Sep 24 11:36:19 ^ Sep 24 11:36:35 The launcher title is the activity label tag Sep 24 11:36:44 If it doesn't have one, it inherits from the application tag Sep 24 11:36:59