**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 06 03:00:02 2012 Oct 06 03:00:04 When the producer-containing class is regged? or the listener? Oct 06 03:01:21 <_kbulgrien> Ok, well, this was the answer: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4249695/adt-requires-org-eclipse-wst-sse-core-0-0-0-but-it-could-not-be-found Oct 06 03:01:40 a producer is called whenever a subscriber is registered for that type. it is also called when the producer is registered and there are already existing subscriber for that typed registered Oct 06 03:02:03 it is called once for each existing subscriber in the latter case Oct 06 03:02:23 JakeWharton, ahh, that sounds far more useful. Docs don't *quite* spell that out. And now it makes sense why there can be only one producer per type per bus. Oct 06 03:03:21 yeah they should be improved. it was kind of a rush job to make the website Oct 06 03:03:47 Well, it's pretty anyway. That's really what won me over. ;-) Oct 06 03:04:00 haha, yeah it's my favorite of all the ones i've done Oct 06 03:04:31 now I need to make some richer types since I have sort of a "Result" class which carriers all types of stuff. Oct 06 03:05:35 if GPRS isn't on would that allow mms not to work? Oct 06 03:06:04 Not exactly a java question but how can i set a android:background white in the xml for a realative layout? Oct 06 03:06:32 android:background="#0000000" Oct 06 03:06:38 yeah specific types are the best Oct 06 03:06:43 it also doesn't support generics (yet) Oct 06 03:06:52 I have a branch which does code-gen rather than reflection Oct 06 03:07:13 its either #000000 or #ffffff Oct 06 03:07:15 generics are a lie Oct 06 03:07:27 typeless types Oct 06 03:07:32 it's all a sham! Oct 06 03:08:16 thanks optimusM Oct 06 03:08:30 Your welcome did it work? Oct 06 03:08:53 checking as we speak Oct 06 03:09:39 it's #ffffff Oct 06 03:09:41 yeah Oct 06 03:09:43 i think so Oct 06 03:09:49 let me try puting something into the layout Oct 06 03:09:50 or @android:color/white Oct 06 03:10:07 the #ffffff worked Oct 06 03:10:08 that Oct 06 03:10:16 #fff is easier to type Oct 06 03:10:26 can i use any hex color? Oct 06 03:10:26 use @android:color/white so you're future-proof! Oct 06 03:10:33 or android:background="@string/white" /> lol Oct 06 03:10:35 lol mrenouf Oct 06 03:10:38 yeah Oct 06 03:10:44 white might be easier Oct 06 03:10:45 lol Oct 06 03:10:49 thanks all guys! Oct 06 03:10:56 you don't want your app standing out with out-of-date white Oct 06 03:11:08 then in the string xml do string name="white">#ffffff lol Oct 06 03:11:09 techdigy: yes, any hex color works Oct 06 03:11:14 mrenouf: true true Oct 06 03:11:17 techdigy, yes. screens support many colors these days Oct 06 03:11:28 hopefully one day i will know what im doing more so i can help you too Oct 06 03:11:31 half joking Oct 06 03:11:52 im trying to get mms working for cm9 lol Oct 06 03:11:58 no optimusM Oct 06 03:12:00 obviously for white it's silly, but there are other better examples, like "textColorPrimaryInverse" which is theme sensitive Oct 06 03:12:02 do not use a string for a color Oct 06 03:12:12 i ment not string lol Oct 06 03:12:26 @color/ Oct 06 03:12:35 what the heck is "textColorPrimaryInverse"... lets stay with the basic ways of donig things... lol Oct 06 03:12:52 theme attribute references Oct 06 03:12:52 Thanks guys it worked... I'm changing it to grey though haha Oct 06 03:12:58 you'll get to that Oct 06 03:13:06 mrenouf: can it be used in the xml ? Oct 06 03:13:08 on your 3rd or 4th app Oct 06 03:13:12 dont worry about it now Oct 06 03:14:08 in a way android can be handled similar to web development, like CSS. it's no where near as simple or flexible, but the idea is the same Oct 06 03:14:40 mrenouf: Hopefully ill get to that point... I'm working hard. Oct 06 03:14:56 symbolic names are used for key colors and values, and themes provide these, and they can extend and override values of other themes Oct 06 03:15:02 i think I might have come across that... is it the styles.xml? Oct 06 03:15:11 yes Oct 06 03:15:37 mrenouf: playing around with exlipse does have benefits Oct 06 03:15:39 haha Oct 06 03:15:39 at a very basic level, you can group a bunch of values together, and assign them all with style="@style/myStyle" Oct 06 03:16:06 this can be thought of like defining a CSS class, and assigning it to an element. Oct 06 03:16:59 except there's no cascading, or wildcard matching Oct 06 03:17:17 mrenouf: wait that element what if it has some extra thing that can't be used for that specfic layout or maybe its a button or do all of theme have the same things that can be applied to it Oct 06 03:17:43 *Sorry my english isn't that great today. Oct 06 03:17:44 but you can change the style for ALL TextView by changing the attribute they all use by default. which is defined by the theme Oct 06 03:17:56 ...I am just now learning that Android supports sensing the level of pressure in a touch event Oct 06 03:18:02 and that my Nexus 7 indeed reads this Oct 06 03:18:07 I'm not aware of a single app that makes use of this Oct 06 03:18:09 Hodapp, "pressure" Oct 06 03:18:17 I see so each like type of view has its own like style Oct 06 03:18:20 it's neat, but its not really pressure Oct 06 03:18:35 mrenouf: It's working quite well for what I'm doing. Oct 06 03:18:45 it's like finger smush-factor Oct 06 03:18:53 yeah, it works well Oct 06 03:19:35 is there moz border radious in xml? Oct 06 03:19:36 techdigy, yeah that's roughly like setting a style for "P" tags, etc. Oct 06 03:19:49 techdigy, no. don't expect any simple easy stuff like that Oct 06 03:20:14 layout is totally different, it may seem very weird at first, but there is a system to it. Oct 06 03:20:31 mrenouf: what is a good reference for all the types of thigngs ican use in this system? Oct 06 03:20:32 play with the layout editor. it helps Oct 06 03:20:47 ohh I see them in the gui part Oct 06 03:20:54 in the graphical layout Oct 06 03:21:06 i can right click on it and it shows me everythign Oct 06 03:21:32 your bread & butter will be: LinearLayout and RelativeLayout. Oct 06 03:22:06 read up on "gravity" and "weights" Oct 06 03:22:32 there's a lot that's easy in Android that you really can't do simply in CSS Oct 06 03:22:39 like center an element vertically! Oct 06 03:22:59 gravity="center_vertical" <- it's that easy! Oct 06 03:23:38 can someone help me with this error please Oct 06 03:23:39 http://pastebin.com/iJxBEg2r Oct 06 03:24:24 Yeah I know a bit of gravity but the part that if i put like 80 of 100 its actually 20 percent isntead of 80 got me confused Oct 06 03:25:00 mrenouf: I was watching a pretty good tutorial series on developing for android... it might be a bit outdated but It gave me a good start. its 20 hours in total . Oct 06 03:27:03 I honestly think I can rip out this whole Executor/Callable/ListenableFuture bound service stuff, and just use an IntentService, and Bus. Oct 06 03:28:01 the only tricky part is, I need to keep track of more than "result" per activity/task Oct 06 03:28:35 Haha I wish i knew what you said in the last sentence Oct 06 03:29:06 One problem I had in my last app i tried to make is that I couldn't keep the data stored after i .finished() Oct 06 03:29:17 like when it was destroyed Oct 06 03:29:30 really speaking in generic terms. through the normal workflow of a single "use" of the app, there are requests send based on the result of previous requests. Oct 06 03:30:09 techdigy, yep. the lifecycle. you'll learn it. Oct 06 03:30:33 can one get those requests back after the memory is released? Oct 06 03:30:34 you have no control. you run when you're told. you start and stop when the user wants you too. Oct 06 03:31:00 if the system doesn't want you around any more, you will be destroyed or just killed. But there are rules. Oct 06 03:31:06 follow the rules and you'll be fine. Oct 06 03:31:23 I see Oct 06 03:32:01 use d.android.com reference section heavily Oct 06 03:32:08 there's useful diagrams of this Oct 06 03:32:14 er, flowcharts Oct 06 03:33:41 Looks like they have al ot of answers over there. Thanks mrenouf and everyone I learned a lot today from this IRC alone. When I get better I'm goign to give back to other people and help them learn too.haha Oct 06 03:33:55 What phone do you use to develop? Oct 06 03:34:05 Galaxy Nexus Oct 06 03:34:14 but it shouldn't really matter Oct 06 03:34:17 it Oct 06 03:34:41 it's helpful to have a really new one, and a moderately old one Oct 06 03:35:03 I'm using a Nexus s Oct 06 03:35:12 Im getting anew one this december... Oct 06 03:35:22 hopefully somethign new comes out Oct 06 03:35:36 that's a good phone. if you get a new phone, you can flash that back to Gingerbread for testing. Oct 06 03:35:52 for you I wouldn't worry about targeting anything earlier than that. Oct 06 03:37:02 JakeWharton, thanks, your library has made me rethink my entire app architecture :-/ Oct 06 03:50:21 JakeWharton: when adding the action view for the collapsable action item (like in the demo) unless I pass the resource id directly, the view doesn't take up the whole horizontal length of the actionbar Oct 06 03:50:32 say, if I use a layout inflater to create it Oct 06 03:50:36 and then pass that Oct 06 03:50:48 even if I set fill_parent, it is wrap_content Oct 06 03:52:02 consequentially, to get a handle to the view after it is inflated, I had to write yoyo code http://pastie.org/4919793 Oct 06 03:52:06 is it that bad or Oct 06 03:52:11 am I missing something here Oct 06 04:07:08 mrenouf: it's reduced a TON of boilerplate in both of our apps Oct 06 04:07:22 probably the single greatest addition to our code Oct 06 04:14:43 techdigy: looking at scrollback; i dont think i would have recommended going to school to learn java/android : Oct 06 04:14:54 did you have a different nick back then ? Oct 06 04:16:40 fnord`: an action item view has a max width Oct 06 04:16:55 i forget the exact number off of the top of my head Oct 06 04:16:59 it's something like 480dp Oct 06 04:18:52 JakeWharton: yeah but it's way smaller than that Oct 06 04:19:05 if you use a LayoutInflater, instead of passing the resource id Oct 06 04:19:15 it will take wrap_content space. Oct 06 04:19:20 even if you have fill_parent set. Oct 06 04:28:52 hey, I'm new in Android development Oct 06 04:29:11 and I'd like to know how to identify the MotionEvent MOVE origin Oct 06 04:29:51 is it possible? the action index is always 0 :'( Oct 06 04:39:24 Danguafer, there is a motionEvent.getSource(), I haven't found it useful for my purposes (yet), so I can't answer much in the way of details Oct 06 04:41:36 let me check it Oct 06 04:43:55 I actually wound up getting rawX/rawY and checking it against a view's getGlobalVisibleRect and calling contains on that... Oct 06 04:44:13 but my case was weird ; ) Oct 06 04:47:18 I don't know what getSource is returning :~ it's not the pointer index Oct 06 04:49:18 by pointer index, you mean the R.id of the view? Oct 06 04:50:30 nop Oct 06 04:51:05 the one that MotionEvent.getActionIndex() returns Oct 06 04:52:02 for handling multi-touch? Oct 06 04:52:22 yup! Oct 06 04:53:46 I believe that I don't need it Oct 06 04:53:56 I can run through the pointers in a loop Oct 06 04:54:37 I will test it later Oct 06 04:54:43 time to wash the dishes :p Oct 06 04:54:44 o> o/ Oct 06 04:54:47 ; ) Oct 06 04:55:13 gl, sounds like fun territory Oct 06 05:04:42 halu. my widget got kill sometimes. anyone can help? my widget code is http://pastebin.com/3HyGR3mF Oct 06 05:06:06 <_kbulgrien> Ok, supposedly have hello world app, and in eclipse I was given to understand that one had to start an AVD, but when I push start... there is no emulator that I can see. I thought starting one meant there was a screen shown that looked like an android device that my app would run in. Oct 06 05:13:13 _kbulgrien, if you haven't already, you will have to define a device (basically creating an emulator image) Oct 06 05:13:36 _kbulgrien, you can do this through various gui's... I don't use eclipse, so I would recommend 'android avd' from the cmd line Oct 06 05:14:12 you would then pick an api/screen size/etc, create the virtual device, and start it Oct 06 05:14:42 <_kbulgrien> that does nothing. Oct 06 05:14:52 <_kbulgrien> it says starting and nothing happens Oct 06 05:15:18 =/ Oct 06 05:15:48 <_kbulgrien> details says nothing execpt stuff like the name, skin, target, sd card size... Oct 06 05:16:12 like it's launching an emulator and hanging (or very slow)? Oct 06 05:16:27 or you can't launch the avd managment app Oct 06 05:16:44 <_kbulgrien> a progress bar fills while "starting"... gets full, and nothing else happens. Oct 06 05:16:57 OS? Oct 06 05:17:06 <_kbulgrien> Linux Oct 06 05:17:26 <_kbulgrien> I did android avd... made a new one, etc... pressed start... Oct 06 05:17:42 hard to say, Windows/OSX are more "uniform" and thus a little easier to debug (though I myself am a linux guy) Oct 06 05:17:57 man I gotta say working on porting android Oct 06 05:18:04 I have found the emulator painfuly slow/buggy on linux/mac Oct 06 05:18:06 it sure as hell seems like the android platform has a TON of bugs Oct 06 05:18:18 it has it's share :) Oct 06 05:18:21 gingerbread was full of bugs that caused random shit Oct 06 05:18:28 like lockups, apps crashing Oct 06 05:18:30 random reboots Oct 06 05:18:36 and then when it comes to ics, random hangs Oct 06 05:18:47 jb, random app crashes Oct 06 05:19:06 I dont know how 3rd parties like samsung etc release builds that are even remotely stable Oct 06 05:19:41 _kbulgrien, if you are just looking to get started and save this hastle for later, I would recommend dev'ing against a device Oct 06 05:19:46 probably because they get help from framewokr guys to squash bugs Oct 06 05:19:55 <_kbulgrien> it acts like one is running, but I can't see anything Oct 06 05:20:39 <_kbulgrien> I'm not sure I grok dev'ing against a device Oct 06 05:20:53 <_kbulgrien> I'm not trying to use a real device Oct 06 05:21:13 *nod*, not trying to redirect you, just checking Oct 06 05:21:38 it can be easier for new devs to "get started" with a real device Oct 06 05:21:57 anyhow, you get any console output when the emulator is launching? Oct 06 05:22:03 <_kbulgrien> oh... well, I'm not sure I know how to do that... put the apk on a device? Oct 06 05:22:27 <_kbulgrien> Is that what you mean? Oct 06 05:23:01 _kbulgrien, you have to create an AVD Oct 06 05:23:08 _kbulgrien, I am on Linux myself Oct 06 05:23:29 yeah, eclipse automates the process, but again, I don't use eclipse much... adb install my.apk Oct 06 05:24:20 _kbulgrien, if you think you created an avd, and Eclipse won't open it, try to open it apart from Eclipse, from the command line Oct 06 05:24:48 <_kbulgrien> Ologn: well if that is running Android Virtual Device Manager, I have done that. Oct 06 05:25:08 <_kbulgrien> um... ok, don't know how to do that Oct 06 05:25:15 _kbulgrien, the AVD manager is the manager of all AVD devices Oct 06 05:25:25 <_kbulgrien> I have it launched Oct 06 05:25:48 _kbulgrien, so if you have not done so already, create an AVD from the AVD manager (or from the command line) Oct 06 05:26:04 _kbulgrien, and then launch that AVD from the AVD manager (or the command line) Oct 06 05:26:08 <_kbulgrien> I did Oct 06 05:26:19 <_kbulgrien> nothing happens Oct 06 05:26:32 You have an Android emulator on screen? Oct 06 05:26:37 <_kbulgrien> no Oct 06 05:27:14 Do you have an AVD listed in the AVD manager? Oct 06 05:27:56 <_kbulgrien> ps -ef shows evidence of java running... adb fork-server server and stuff, but its all greek to me, and there is no ui showing Oct 06 05:28:39 <_kbulgrien> yes, i selected it and hit start. a progress bar fills, and it all disappears... avd manager has green check mark on the avd... Oct 06 05:28:55 Are any devices listed in the AVD manager? Under virtual devices? Like device name so and so, target 2.3 or whatever, platform 2.3 etc. Oct 06 05:29:01 common issues, vid driver, lack of ia32-libs, x-issues (vary widely)... no interesting error messages in term, dmesg, other? Oct 06 05:29:46 <_kbulgrien> heh... emulator-arm: segfault Oct 06 05:30:03 <_kbulgrien> error 4 in libGL.so Oct 06 05:32:22 <_kbulgrien> am using proprietary nvidia driver because nouveau is crap and kills my system... other opengl app works ok Oct 06 05:33:49 _kbulgrien, http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33897 Oct 06 05:34:02 <_kbulgrien> when you say ia32-libs... not sure what that is Oct 06 05:34:40 <_kbulgrien> yes, that is the message alright. Oct 06 05:35:21 when you run a 64bit linux, there are still alot of thigns compiled/linked for x86... ia32-libs is the bridge for this Oct 06 05:35:41 It seems to be a very Nvidia related message. Maybe the AVD does not play well with Nvidia driver in certain circumstances Oct 06 05:35:42 <_kbulgrien> am on 32-bit distribution Oct 06 05:35:56 don't mind ia32-libs then Oct 06 05:36:36 I had better luck with the NV drivers than nouveau(sp?) or that other one they use commonly now Oct 06 05:38:02 maybe there aren't 2 common OSS ones... maybe I'm just thinkig of nouveau twice.. Oct 06 05:38:30 anyway, this is obscure, prob wind up trying a bunch of random stuff till you get lucky or googling Oct 06 05:38:36 <_kbulgrien> well, i can run nv or vesa, but then it is slooow... Oct 06 05:39:22 <_kbulgrien> but nouveau is a definite no as it is inevitable that the system will freeze in not very long. Oct 06 05:40:18 <_kbulgrien> maybe I should try to set up the build env on an older install... 3.x kernel seems more flaky Oct 06 05:41:26 * _kbulgrien is disappointed... no start tonight I guess. Oct 06 05:41:36 if you have a device, it's really much better than an emulator Oct 06 05:41:51 <_kbulgrien> I do have an archos 43 Oct 06 05:41:52 and not much/any more complicated to debug/deploy to Oct 06 05:42:16 plug her in, see if you get anything in 'adb devices' Oct 06 05:43:02 common that you have to add a usb device entry for your mfgr, but the steps/id's are pretty well known/defined Oct 06 05:44:47 <_kbulgrien> nothing there Oct 06 05:45:08 http://developer.android.com/tools/device.html Oct 06 05:45:22 hrrm.. no archos listed Oct 06 05:45:51 do you have debuggin on ont he device? Oct 06 05:45:58 (could be that simple) Oct 06 05:46:20 just a checkbox in settings Oct 06 05:47:14 <_kbulgrien> USB debugging checkbox.... Oct 06 05:47:23 I don't understand how art can be relative across various types of androis, I understand there are four varients of dpi devices from low to extra high, but if I design a game for the lowest resolution, how does the scaling work, is the scaling automatic and does it apply anti aliasing, like when scaling bitmaps? Oct 06 05:47:58 <_kbulgrien> ah... list of devices shows ????????????? no permissions Oct 06 05:48:16 <_kbulgrien> so that's getting somewhere I guess Oct 06 05:48:45 you may have to kill that adb service and start one as root iirc (should make most ppl angry) Oct 06 05:49:03 by service I mean process Oct 06 05:49:20 <_kbulgrien> or put myself in the usb group? Oct 06 05:49:37 I don't recall the logic behind it, that might be it Oct 06 05:49:57 (I thought it was more than that, but it was some time ago that i last dealt with it) Oct 06 05:51:21 gutano do you know how to detect the mobile rotation? :D Oct 06 05:51:35 if you where testing the root way, it would be 'adb kill-server', followed by sudo/su/whatever, then adb start-server Oct 06 05:51:49 Danguafer, you mean query current orientation? Oct 06 05:52:31 yup Oct 06 05:52:33 _kbulgrien: I'm about to head out, but you want 'lsusb', that'll give you a line with a XXXX:XXXX for your device, take the first XXXX and use it with the udev rules step from gutano's link Oct 06 05:52:43 I mean... not the orientation Oct 06 05:52:46 but the rotation Oct 06 05:52:48 if possible Oct 06 05:52:59 that goes into the idVendor bit, you need to unplug and re-plug your device after following that link Oct 06 05:53:02 <_kbulgrien> yeah, working through the udev setup at the moment Oct 06 05:53:10 of the touch/multi-touch input, I do not Oct 06 05:53:18 I think that's abstracted... Oct 06 05:53:28 maybe look @ gesturelistener? similar? Oct 06 05:53:35 oh, awesome :D LG p705 has a buggy multitouch Oct 06 05:53:51 lemme see if I can find a lead Oct 06 05:54:48 nah, I got nothin Oct 06 06:01:03 <_kbulgrien> even running adb devices by root says no permissions Oct 06 06:02:09 weird, iirc, I would have to start the server as root, but I could deploy/everything else as my normal user Oct 06 06:02:45 <_kbulgrien> oh, ok, it probably started it as my regular user so might need to kill it off before trying as root Oct 06 06:02:53 *nod* Oct 06 06:03:17 eclipse/avd manager would have started it in any attempt to launch an emulator Oct 06 06:05:27 <_kbulgrien> ok, that worked Oct 06 06:06:01 <_kbulgrien> A43-lotsofnumbers offline Oct 06 06:06:42 unplug/replug? shouldn't say offlie Oct 06 06:08:10 <_kbulgrien> replug doesn't change anything Oct 06 06:08:49 hrrm.. well, you are close, hehe Oct 06 06:09:01 might as well try pushing something to it Oct 06 06:09:42 I assume that blocks a `adb install my.apk`, but maybe it doesn't Oct 06 06:10:50 <_kbulgrien> error: device offline -waiting for device- Oct 06 06:11:03 yeah, that's not helpful Oct 06 06:11:06 =/ Oct 06 06:11:34 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5584976/android-device-chooser-my-device-seems-offline Oct 06 06:11:38 *shrug* Oct 06 06:14:27 <_kbulgrien> hmm... ok... i think I am plugged into a port that is on a composite device... trying to move cable to other connector... have had trouble with some usb card readers not working on front ports. Oct 06 06:15:21 <_kbulgrien> yeah, no luck Oct 06 06:18:28 I would just be shooting in the dark with idea's... perhaps googling offline device will turn up some fruitful leads Oct 06 06:18:57 <_kbulgrien> different cable no difference Oct 06 06:19:33 <_kbulgrien> yeah... imagine so... probably will bail for now, but you guys helped a lot... I was going through a book and it expected eclipse to just work... Oct 06 06:19:50 in my experience USB is all or nothing... if your see'ing offline, i'm betting adb server, perms or device restarts (along those lines) Oct 06 06:20:27 channel is more active during the day (or only sporadically at night), you'll get there soon =D Oct 06 06:20:52 it's mid-afternoon now Oct 06 06:20:58 hehe Oct 06 06:44:23 whats the setting to have the action overflow menu show on devices with a menu key? I want the 3 dots so they know there's a menu option. Oct 06 06:45:10 you can't Oct 06 06:47:57 well isn't that a bunch of phooey Oct 06 06:51:54 i used to think so Oct 06 06:51:58 but then I came to my senses Oct 06 06:52:43 why's that? Oct 06 06:52:56 if there's options, why not show the overfow? Oct 06 06:53:01 overflow Oct 06 06:53:32 because the device has a key dedicated for it Oct 06 06:53:44 and if users are upgrading from gingerbread, they are used to it Oct 06 06:53:51 and because the overflow is for action items which are rarely used Oct 06 06:54:30 oh, well i still would like it :P Oct 06 06:54:42 I'm using abs btw Oct 06 06:54:55 it's an app for a non-profit Oct 06 06:55:39 a lot of people share your desire for it Oct 06 06:55:54 and that's great! Oct 06 06:56:59 yeah i saw on g+ that you're 3rd most watched on github? that sounds pretty damn good! Oct 06 06:58:12 yeah as of yesterday Oct 06 06:58:20 and only for Java projects Oct 06 06:58:26 probably nowhere near close to the top overall Oct 06 06:58:57 nope, not even halfway to making it into the top 40 Oct 06 06:59:10 yeah but still very good Oct 06 06:59:11 does anyone know how to convert Date to a specific locale. I wish to find the local time of a particular point on the map Oct 06 06:59:13 congrats Oct 06 06:59:47 thank you Oct 06 07:01:15 any ideas! Oct 06 07:01:37 ali__, have you seen http://developer.android.com/reference/java/util/Locale.html and http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/res/Configuration.html ? Oct 06 07:02:00 ali__: Date is mostly deprecated anyhow Oct 06 07:02:17 look around SimpleDateFormat and stuff Oct 06 07:04:37 g00s: Thanks I'll look into it, what I wanted to do is use the reverse geocoding feature of google maps and find the local time of the center of the map. What route to do think I should use? Oct 06 07:05:09 oh, heh, thats suprizingly difficult Oct 06 07:05:32 there are a few web services which will give you the tz based on location coordinates Oct 06 07:05:47 g00s: are any of them free? Oct 06 07:05:59 ignore anything deprecated in Date Oct 06 07:06:02 honestly, i can't remember. its been a while since i looked Oct 06 07:06:05 just use the methods Oct 06 07:06:29 g00s: well when I reverse geocode I get the locale of the center point Oct 06 07:06:42 just need to find a way to use that to get the local time Oct 06 07:07:15 JakeWharton: I tried that but it doesn't work it just displays the current time Oct 06 07:25:21 If I have a search function that has results that should be logically sectioned into groups, is there some api i can use to do that with a listview and cursor? Oct 06 07:27:24 ali___ what if you tested the longitude component against a range and reference the time zone? Oct 06 07:35:51 <_kbulgrien> woohoo... got it Oct 06 07:36:05 <_kbulgrien> as regular user and not even root Oct 06 07:46:45 oops nevermind, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Standard_time_zones_of_the_world.png Oct 06 07:47:03 _kbulgrien, whoo! Oct 06 07:49:40 <_kbulgrien> yeah, www.archos.com/support/support_tech/updates_adb.html only it had a mistake on their page. Oct 06 07:50:05 <_kbulgrien> Also part of the magic was rebooting the archos Oct 06 08:00:07 I have to make multiple passes of a database (different selections) and want to compile all the results into what at least appears as one listview, is there any good examples of something like this out there? Oct 06 08:16:05 afternoon Oct 06 11:31:52 hello, how do you develop core android applications? Such as add an entry in "about the phone"? Oct 06 11:36:19 hi everybody! can anybody tell me a good way to read/write JSON files before Api level 11? The matching Android classes only work from Api level 11 Oct 06 11:37:59 could someone help me out with installing apk files on my andriod device? i know u can move it into the data/app/ folder ibelive, but cant u use a file manager to go to it and it should let me install it as well ? Oct 06 11:39:26 evident: erm, the org.json stuff has been there since API 1 Oct 06 11:39:53 Ob1-W4n: can't you just copy it to somewhere on the sd-card, access it via a File Manager and install it? Oct 06 11:40:33 thats what im asking to confirm Oct 06 11:40:37 i think i can do that Oct 06 11:40:41 asking that im correct Oct 06 11:40:51 just try it Oct 06 11:40:58 i know i gotta allow outside sources to be installed in the options too Oct 06 11:41:05 Ob1-W4n: make sure you have allowed to install apps from unknown sources... Oct 06 11:41:13 yea, well what i was gonna ask more specifically Oct 06 11:41:20 was what file manager is good to use Oct 06 11:41:29 like just flashed a new rom on a new device Oct 06 11:41:36 so i need a good free file manager anyways Oct 06 11:42:07 Leeds: hmm you're right... I guess I could work around with something like that... I just saw that the convenciences of the JSONReader and JSONWriter classes are from Api level 11... but I get I can get what I want without that convencience... ;) Oct 06 11:42:18 ES File manager Oct 06 11:45:20 hy all Oct 06 11:45:47 thx evident Oct 06 11:45:49 my android program breaks here: mmSocket = mmDevice.createRfcommSocketToServiceRecord(uuid); Oct 06 11:45:52 what is the problem? Oct 06 11:45:52 ill give es a go Oct 06 11:45:58 where can I see what is the problem? Oct 06 11:46:33 hi Oct 06 11:46:45 gregtom6: what is the exception? Oct 06 11:46:58 where can I see what is the exception? Oct 06 11:47:05 i am following android tutorial and removed all the errors but still the app is not running on my emulator. can someone please test this app in their emulator? Oct 06 11:47:08 help please Oct 06 11:47:26 java.lang.nullpointerexception Oct 06 11:47:29 hmm Oct 06 12:02:20 What LayoutParams should I use inside a ViewFlipper? Oct 06 12:02:59 (ViewFlipper is a subclass of FrameLayout) Oct 06 12:03:17 hi Oct 06 12:03:46 this is sample test app code. it do not have any errors and it runs fine. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1263681/ but it do not show any output. how can i troubleshoot it? Oct 06 12:03:47 help please? Oct 06 12:06:22 Abhijit: use @Override annotations on your overridden methods in your DownloadWebpageTask Oct 06 12:06:33 let me know if it still compiles after you add them. Oct 06 12:06:36 chances are it wont Oct 06 12:06:54 oh btw, you have a doInBackground() that does nothing but return ull Oct 06 12:07:00 null* Oct 06 12:07:26 fnord`, i see. i have taken this code from andoird tutorial on android website. can you pleaset tell me how do i make it return the result and not the null? Oct 06 12:07:29 and you didn't use the generic type syntax try: extends AsyncTask with your desired types. Oct 06 12:07:46 Abhijit: it must have come from a low-quality blog. Get a real example from the official site. Oct 06 12:08:04 fnord`, no it came from here http://developer.android.com/training/basics/network-ops/connecting.html Oct 06 12:08:28 I will be very surprised if it matches that character for character, but I will look Oct 06 12:08:55 I'm trying to draw an image in a live wallpaper i'm making. currently I'm getting the bitmap using: BitmapFactory.decodeStream(mAssetManager.open("smoke.gif")); // this works just fine with the image in /assets/smoke.gif Oct 06 12:08:55 you omittied the @Override annotations and added an extra doInBackground Oct 06 12:09:05 and the example itself is missing the type parameterization Oct 06 12:09:05 but is this the right place to put images? shouldn't images go into /drawable/... ? Oct 06 12:09:13 I can't get BitmapFactory.decodeResource() to work... my image doesn't appear in any way when I type "R.drawable." Oct 06 12:09:16 look for a better example Oct 06 12:09:21 this one is not very good, sad to say. Oct 06 12:09:23 how can I get the image "id" to pass it to the BitmapFactory.decodeResource() function ? Oct 06 12:09:54 fnord`, where can i find the better working example? Oct 06 12:10:06 checking, 1 sec Oct 06 12:10:15 ok Oct 06 12:10:28 https://github.com/commonsguy/cw-android/blob/master/Threads/Asyncer/src/com/commonsware/android/async/AsyncDemo.java Oct 06 12:10:33 you can check out the whole cw-android repo Oct 06 12:11:24 fnord`, if i add override then eclipse gives me error Oct 06 12:11:28 you don't need to call publishProgress like he does unless you want to have a progress bar type setup. The SystemClock.sleep() is for example. Oct 06 12:11:34 Abhijit: and what error is that Oct 06 12:12:27 fnord`, the method or type of (....) must override or implement supertype method Oct 06 12:12:57 async task doInBackground takes a parameterized type Oct 06 12:13:15 try (String... urls) Oct 06 12:13:19 and get urls[0] Oct 06 12:13:36 what are the parameterized types? Oct 06 12:13:42 you would have known this if you had put the there, because eclipse would have autogenerated the method stubs Oct 06 12:13:43 you mean urls is a an array? Oct 06 12:13:47 variadic function arguments, Abhijit Oct 06 12:13:48 and i should write urls[0' Oct 06 12:13:50 read about them Oct 06 12:13:55 in a java book Oct 06 12:13:55 and i should write urls[0="google.com"? Oct 06 12:14:03 ok Oct 06 12:14:17 fnord`, which is best book or resource to learn android ? Oct 06 12:14:28 you need to learn java and android from separate resources Oct 06 12:14:34 try thinking in java, its' a free book Oct 06 12:14:41 also try the oracle site, it has tutorials. Oct 06 12:14:52 yes i will try and for andoird? Oct 06 12:16:24 fnord`, please tell me andoird resource also Oct 06 12:16:55 JakeWharton or anyone else in the know about ActionBar Sherlock: I have a collapsible actionview in my *overflow* menu, and it works fine on API >= 14, but in compat mode selecting the item from the menu does not result in the view being expanded in the action bar. My first guess is that using the native gingerbread menu routes too much through the old APIs to trigger the expansion, so how can I force an ICS-style menu like when forced overflow ite Oct 06 12:16:55 m is used? Oct 06 12:16:57 commonsware.org Oct 06 12:17:14 er, .com Oct 06 12:17:33 ok Oct 06 12:17:36 the official site... books published by apress Oct 06 12:18:10 ok Oct 06 12:27:41 <92AABMDM0> hi guys Oct 06 12:29:42 <92AABMDM0> Do someone know how to find the complete code Oct 06 12:29:51 <92AABMDM0> of de DatePicker Oct 06 12:29:51 <92AABMDM0> http://cdn.imghack.se/images/220471c75a82e19bc68d1163f3a4bc10.png Oct 06 12:30:22 <92AABMDM0> I need to create a password widget using the scroll event to choose a number Oct 06 12:30:29 <92AABMDM0> thanks in advance Oct 06 12:32:43 I have an image in "res/raw/smoke.gif" and I'm trying to get it with "getResources().openRawResource(R.raw.smoke);" but I'm getting "smoke cannot be resolved or is not a field" Oct 06 12:32:53 <92AABMDM0> help pl Oct 06 12:32:55 <92AABMDM0> plz Oct 06 12:33:23 I'm assuming the image needs an id first, how do I assign it? Oct 06 12:33:31 <92AABMDM0> ? Oct 06 12:36:18 <92AABMDM0> anyone could help please? Oct 06 12:38:21 92AABMDM0 wrong import Oct 06 12:38:58 <92AABMDM0> monsti: sorry see the image on this page http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/controls/pickers.html Oct 06 12:39:17 wrong android sdk version in your manifest Oct 06 12:39:36 they added/removed certain resources in specific sdks Oct 06 12:39:51 also some resources arn't public Oct 06 12:44:00 I am getting an undefined reference to error when I try to build the code from ndk-build Oct 06 12:44:34 all the things for which there is error are in the headers file Oct 06 12:58:46 hello. Pretty rookie question but: how to show EditText Element after user clicks on "Edit " item in context menu? Oct 06 13:01:50 how to drow an arrow on top of the activity, to say the user that he can swipe left-right Oct 06 13:01:52 & Oct 06 13:02:00 *draw Oct 06 13:02:32 something like "swipe here to see this" and arrow Oct 06 13:03:11 hi developers ;) Oct 06 13:04:34 stiggpwnz you mean like es file manager does when you open it up the first time? Oct 06 13:04:52 ron_frown, yep, exactly Oct 06 13:05:17 Super simple NDK question: I want to run a C program that only prints "hello" when I run it on Android and here is what I tried: https://gist.github.com/6094dce66480bdad9f67 Oct 06 13:05:28