**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 11 02:59:57 2012 Nov 11 03:00:09 ok, coffee shop is kicking me out. blah. back to the cave. bbiab Nov 11 03:00:24 i was using 4.0.1 something and when i tested against my froyo phone, after moving all actionbar setup into the fragments (calling hasoptionsmenu or whatever in fragment's oncreate) i found that clicking on the menu actions wouldn't always work Nov 11 03:00:36 dunno if it is fixed in 4.2 Nov 11 03:00:44 nah g00s they dont have the one i need :( Nov 11 03:01:25 oops, it was batteries plus. oh well, sure you knew that Nov 11 03:01:40 lead acid batteries fucking suck Nov 11 03:02:01 anyway, so $75 for battery or $150 for ups :P Nov 11 03:02:30 oh look at this Nov 11 03:02:30 http://www.atbatt.com/ups-backup-batteries/b/apc/m/rbc109.asp?utm_source=google&utm_medium=ppc&utm_keyword=rbc109&utm_campaign=RBC-109&gclid=CP6GnMz2xbMCFcN_Qgoda2QAKQ Nov 11 03:02:38 is it trustworthy though... Nov 11 03:02:53 hey, thats the aps i has i think Nov 11 03:03:07 thats just a generic photo Nov 11 03:03:11 the rbc109 is used in several models Nov 11 03:03:37 oh, i had the SUA1500 Nov 11 03:04:46 hmm 45 after tax/shipping Nov 11 03:04:48 i'll try this Nov 11 03:05:03 oh wow they take google wallet Nov 11 03:05:06 i think if you ship your back to them , they give you a discount too Nov 11 03:05:30 the boxes for the battery are crazy; they send you battery, you put your battery in the box and ship it back Nov 11 03:05:55 not like you can easily dispose of lead acid batteries :P Nov 11 03:06:10 Is there an intent for showing the downloads screen? Nov 11 03:06:11 s/easily/legally and easily/ Nov 11 03:06:12 or recent downloads Nov 11 03:06:18 probably Nov 11 03:10:59 take the battery to your local recycling point Nov 11 03:11:06 drop it off at batteries Nov 11 03:11:26 or sell it at an auto salvage place Nov 11 03:29:36 or sell them to unsuspecting tinkerers at the local eletronics swap meet Nov 11 03:30:15 I've bought batteries there thinking I would do all kinds of cool stuff with them. lol. Nov 11 03:30:37 there tends to be lots of used emergency lighting batteries Nov 11 03:30:45 * g00s hooks battery leads to mrenouf's earlobes via alligator clips Nov 11 03:32:17 hello all.. i like to bake a android 4.1 and use /data on my second sd-partition.. but i didn't found it.. Nov 11 03:32:31 nor in the code or configs Nov 11 03:32:41 did you preheat the oven ? Nov 11 03:33:38 mmmm hot baked jellybeans Nov 11 03:33:43 mmh, not speciali Nov 11 03:33:52 skamster, because that's a terrible idea and insecure Nov 11 03:34:08 breakfast and bunch Nov 11 03:34:09 :) Nov 11 03:34:33 g00s, thanks i need am extra jolt or two. Nov 11 03:34:36 *an Nov 11 03:34:44 is that prebaked? Nov 11 03:34:55 mrenouf: i was using 4.0.1 something and when i tested against my froyo phone, after moving all actionbar setup into the fragments (calling hasoptionsmenu or whatever in fragment's oncreate) i found that clicking on the menu actions wouldn't always work Nov 11 03:34:56 i'm beginner in baking :) Nov 11 03:35:05 4.0.1 something refers to ABS Nov 11 03:35:16 skamster, round these parts, we call that "compiling" Nov 11 03:35:31 *by not always work I mean the click events would be delayed, like they were never passed appropiatly Nov 11 03:36:11 lasserix, yes, there's a huge warning about upgrading to avoid problems. there was a post about it, look around for "dalvik invalideOptionsMenu" Nov 11 03:36:47 lasserix, my problems are caused by an out of date support library Nov 11 03:36:54 mrenouf, i use it to get a ext4-/data to get a encrypted phone Nov 11 03:37:00 Is there any way to change the text color in the share action provider? Nov 11 03:37:05 it's more secure then, i think Nov 11 03:37:41 when you've a idea how to use yaffs2 as ext4 (over the yaffs as example), tell me :) Nov 11 03:39:28 but it's weird.. i change fs and device-path in 3 fstabs and there's no effect Nov 11 03:46:52 ok, the plot thickens. In fact I *am* using support-v4 r10. the latest. Nov 11 03:47:11 maybe I have a funky old emulator image? Nov 11 03:51:18 lol, Jake tried calling a file: "ʞɔolɹǝɥsɹɐquoıʇɔɐ.java" Nov 11 03:52:47 mrenouf: unfortunately, I don't think java supports full UTF-16 symbols Nov 11 03:53:12 does anyone know any popular ORMs? Nov 11 03:54:19 Anyone done a configuration activity for a collections app widget? Nov 11 03:57:26 If I call mAppWidgetManager.updateAppWidget(callingWidgetId, views); where views are a new instance of remote views will this new instance get replaced by the fact the app widger reciever onUpdate will call widget.setRemoteAdapter(R.id.lv_widget_resizable, serviceIntent) ? Nov 11 03:58:23 This is kind of silly, but you don't need to specify a Sherlock theme unless that activity is _actually_ a SherlockActivity, correct? Nov 11 04:05:08 Rockmaninoff_, if you don't care about having a consistent look, nope. Nov 11 04:05:19 mrenouf: it's for an activity styled as a dialog Nov 11 04:05:27 it's a RoboActivity, not anything Sherlock-related Nov 11 04:05:36 but the crash report is indicating it's sherlock related Nov 11 04:05:49 "activity.EulaActivity}: java.lang.IllegalStateException: You must use Theme.Sherlock, Theme.Sherlock.Light, Theme.Sherlock.Light.DarkActionBar, or a derivative." Nov 11 04:05:54 EulaActivity extends RoboActivity Nov 11 04:05:56 :( Nov 11 04:06:09 Rockmaninoff_, so, what I did there (and many others im sure) is pull the stuff out of RoboActivity and put it in a class called BaseActivity which extends SherlockFragmentActivity Nov 11 04:06:09 hi Nov 11 04:06:11 and has a different android:theme specified in the manifest Nov 11 04:06:31 mrenouf: i explicitly _don't_ want this activity extending a SherlockActivity Nov 11 04:06:33 Spinner attributes are not displayed in eclipse layout editor how to fix this? Nov 11 04:06:42 so it's functioning how i want it to, but i have one report of it not Nov 11 04:06:48 Rockmaninoff_, any reason why not? Nov 11 04:07:11 mrenouf: so it's styled as an ICS dialog across all devices (complete with the buttons) Nov 11 04:07:32 SherlockDialog is deprecated (or being deprecated) Nov 11 04:08:21 Rockmaninoff you can specifiy what theme a dialog should be used at runtime Nov 11 04:08:48 mDialogFragment.setStyle(DialogFragment.STYLE_NORMAL, R.style.mDialogTheme); Nov 11 04:08:58 before calling mDialogFragment.show Nov 11 04:09:16 lasserix, so my problem was that I should be calling "getActivity().supportInvalidateOptionsMenu()" Nov 11 04:09:19 *oh you can set the theme in oncreate Nov 11 04:09:38 not getSherlockActivity()? ;p Nov 11 04:10:08 getSherlockActivity().invalidateOptionsMenu() would also work, yes Nov 11 04:10:20 the reason it compiles is my targetSdk is 16 Nov 11 04:10:25 mrenouf: oh yeah I am just saying --in addition-- you may want to make sure, if each fragment has its own options menu, option menu clicks are not being delayed Nov 11 04:10:31 not sure why lint didn't flag that one Nov 11 04:11:08 no they're working fine, it was just running an api-8 this method call was wrong. problem solved. Nov 11 04:11:13 RockManinoff: so use sherlock in your manifest and then ovveride it by calling settheme in onCreate Nov 11 04:11:17 oh cool Nov 11 04:11:26 guess I get to refactor that for the fourth time ;p Nov 11 04:11:32 lasserix: well...it's not a Dialog :P Nov 11 04:11:39 it's an Activity _styled_ as a Dialog Nov 11 04:11:54 might still be able to do the setStyle at runtime, but i do it in manifest as well Nov 11 04:12:05 application has theme Sherlock.Light.DarkActionBar, then this specific Activity has a different Theme Nov 11 04:14:28 Spinner attributes are not displayed in eclipse layout editor how to fix this? Nov 11 04:18:59 I need some help with AsyncTask. I have an AsyncTask which downloads a file, this can be started in a bunch of ways. One way is by user interaction, in that case I want to update the UI in order to give some visual feedback. For that I uses another AsyncTask. However, it seems like Android only executes one AsyncTask at the time, thus making the UI updating task wait until the file is complete, which kind of defets the pupose of it Nov 11 04:19:05 does anyone know any popular ORMs? Nov 11 04:19:28 The Download does has nothing to do with UI, so can I avoid merging the two tasks? Nov 11 04:19:48 I would really like to avoid writing UI logic into my Download class Nov 11 04:20:00 if possible, if not I guess I have to :( Nov 11 04:23:42 bottiger doesn't async task have a progressupdate method? Nov 11 04:24:37 lasserix: sure, but that progressupdate method would need access to the UI element whic need to be updated Nov 11 04:24:50 *which needs Nov 11 04:24:57 its run on the UI thread so it should be able to Nov 11 04:26:07 lasserix: Yes, and it works. But I still need to pass UI objects far into my logic Nov 11 04:26:28 Which becomes very messy Nov 11 04:28:16 use an interface to communicate from download class async task's onprogressupdate method to your activity? Nov 11 04:30:19 So I know you probably get these questions all the time, but I am looking to make a very basic android app, where and how do I start? Nov 11 04:30:25 lasserix: hmm - yeah. I guess it's something like that Nov 11 04:31:26 lavalle00: http://developer.android.com . They have everything you need. From installing the software on you computer, to tutorials, to simple example apps you can look, change and try Nov 11 04:40:57 Anyone done a collections containing app widget in conjunction with a configuraiton activity? Nov 11 05:00:05 hey y'all.. anyone here use device encryption? Nov 11 05:00:27 my work requires it for email, but i want to still be able to flash updates and that kind of stuff Nov 11 05:04:53 explosivo this is probably the wrong channel Nov 11 05:04:58 try android or android-root Nov 11 05:06:37 yes, this is the wrong channel.. wrong auto-join :) Nov 11 05:30:28 does anyone know any popular ORMs? Nov 11 05:31:25 well, there is ormlite, but i have never used it. i prefer straight up sqlite ;) Nov 11 05:31:32 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/371538/any-good-orm-tools-for-android-development Nov 11 05:34:57 ormlite is decent but you will have to do your own ref counting for keeping track of open dbs Nov 11 05:35:14 since, the mechanisms it has for doing that are all in activity base classes Nov 11 05:35:36 and you can't use those because: java has no multiple inheritance, and you probably want to use some other third party lib that requires such bs Nov 11 05:36:23 my two favorite sql tools in android are execSQL and rawQuery :) Nov 11 05:36:43 screw the wrappers, and burn content provider in enternal fire. Nov 11 06:25:35 is it possible to apply both TouchListener and clickListner to a view? Nov 11 06:25:57 Hi, can anyone give me a resource of which style elements are available? The links at the bottom here: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/themes.html give me 410 errors. Nov 11 06:38:50 napster: I haven't used it but it kinda looks like you can just register both listeners with the view Nov 11 06:40:21 ftc: Hmm, actually its a bit more complicated use case. I use a gesture detector. So the onDown() is set to return true to pretend it is consumed. Thus the onClick listener never gets a trigger. Nov 11 06:40:50 ah, that is interesting Nov 11 06:42:32 ftc: Please take a look : https://gist.github.com/4053976 Nov 11 06:43:15 that sounds like a feature though, if you have something intercepted by a gesture you wouldn't want it to be also interpreted as a click, like if you were to pinch zoom on a web page, you don't want it clicking the link under your finger? Nov 11 06:43:28 exactly Nov 11 06:43:58 but clicks needs to be interpreted as clicks itself. :) Nov 11 06:44:11 right now, clicks will be consumed Nov 11 06:44:40 Tabby: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/R.attr.html Nov 11 06:47:54 ftc: Any thoughts? Nov 11 06:48:03 hi all, is there a specific android game development channel Nov 11 06:48:07 tdnigan: How do I apply those, then? I've got this @color/selected_colour but it gives me errors. Nov 11 06:48:25 Even when I use android:colorPressedHighlight Nov 11 06:48:31 Or can't you use those in xml files? Nov 11 06:48:58 napster: the only thing I can think of is to try to decode your click event from the touch event Nov 11 06:50:23 I am just starting to mess with touch events myself, so i am not really the best qualified person to be looking at this unfortunately Nov 11 06:50:26 Tabby: colorPressedHighlight? What's that from? Nov 11 06:50:48 Tabby: I have been meaning to write a tutorial on this, I can do it and then send you a link Nov 11 06:50:51 It's in that R.attr file Nov 11 06:50:56 Awesome, that'd be great Nov 11 06:50:59 it needs to be android: Nov 11 06:51:04 no problem, let me try :) thanks for your time ftc Nov 11 06:51:19 I tried with android:, still has errors Nov 11 06:51:33 whats the error Nov 11 06:51:55 "error: Error: No resource found that matches the given name: attr 'android:colorFocusedHighlight'." Nov 11 06:51:57 it's min api level is 14, maybe you're tripping on that Nov 11 06:52:01 Oh. Nov 11 06:52:06 Yeah, probably. Nov 11 06:52:18 what are you setting the focus color on? Nov 11 06:52:23 you can use a colorstatelist for this Nov 11 06:52:41 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/res/ColorStateList.html Nov 11 06:53:26 Hm. Nov 11 06:53:36 I probably can, I'll try that. Nov 11 06:53:40 just put similar xml in a file in res/values, call it colors.xml by convention Nov 11 06:53:48 then @color/mycolor Nov 11 06:54:48 just know that when writing the statelist, you need to use exclusive logic.. instead of saying "make it white when pressed" say "make it black when not pressed, and white otherwise" Nov 11 06:59:30 Anyone done a collections containing app widget in conjunction with a configuraiton activity? Nov 11 07:31:17 when using contentvalues to insert a new entry into a database do you have to turn all data into string form? Nov 11 07:59:47 mrenouf|away: it worked too, except IntelliJ complained. javac took it just fine Nov 11 08:00:30 is there a way I can find out more information about the device-specific key that is newly implemented in JellyBean? Nov 11 08:00:59 I am writing a piece of security software that requires me to scan APK files and this is causing a problem since they are now signed Nov 11 08:19:54 is there an api call which returns the clipboard (via select/copy) cursor start xy and end xy positions? or positional information related to an html document rendered in a webview? Nov 11 08:36:24 for 11+ http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/ClipboardManager.html Nov 11 08:36:45 for <11 apparently you can poll: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2977480/how-to-observe-androids-clipboard-really Nov 11 08:40:21 and intelliJ users present? Can i disable intelliJ's auto code styling entirely? I know how to type, and it just gets in the way trying to 'help" me Nov 11 08:41:44 (especially when hacking a new project and lots of routines are just place holders, much of the code isn't yet defined, etc) Nov 11 09:11:07 What is this called? @SuppressLint("NewApi") looks like a decorator from python Nov 11 09:11:17 *not the supresslint but the @ Nov 11 09:12:02 Annotation Nov 11 09:12:26 can I use it to decorate a function? Nov 11 09:12:56 ie I want to wrap all my databse methods in open/close can I do @AccessDatabase to do this? Nov 11 09:12:57 lasserix: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_annotation Nov 11 09:13:27 the python decorator syntax is actually based on java annotations Nov 11 09:13:33 but they are completely different beasts Nov 11 09:14:30 is it really based off the java syntax? they're so different in function i'd think it was just coincidence Nov 11 09:14:54 ahh okay thanks Nov 11 09:15:02 well, they do serve similar purposes in many cases Nov 11 09:15:53 or rather, they are used to achieve most of the same goals Nov 11 09:16:01 even though they use different mechanisms to do so Nov 11 09:16:06 oh, you're totally right Nov 11 09:16:06 http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0318/#why Nov 11 09:19:24 that's interesting, i always saw annotations as something akin to a compiler directives, and decorators as syntactic sugar for a common pattern Nov 11 09:26:06 sampullman: well, python's docstrings are quite similar to java's decorators Nov 11 09:26:17 in mechanism, at least Nov 11 09:26:24 err, java's annotations Nov 11 09:42:04 cd ~ Nov 11 09:42:11 Nov 11 09:42:15 that didn't work as expected Nov 11 09:42:27 * tdignan waits for someone to jab him for not just typing 'cd' Nov 11 09:46:09 * Nastya http://vk.com/id189043294 - it's me join me) Nov 11 10:05:53 ^ fake Nov 11 10:24:28 lasserix: that was a great article. a shining example of a NUI principle "the super real" Nov 11 11:09:00 greets Nov 11 11:19:04 Hello world! Nov 11 11:28:50 ah, this is pretty interesting http://www.fiercewireless.com/europe/press-releases/ovum-figures-indicate-operators-will-lose-us54bn-2016-due-smartphone-messag-0 Nov 11 11:29:11 so, fta, seems like operators will try to compete with 'RCS" Nov 11 11:29:39 (file sharing, video calls, etc) … man these idiots just dont get it Nov 11 11:31:08 the former national telco here actually tried to use deep packet inspection to charge sms fees for whatsapp traffic Nov 11 11:31:23 holy crap ! Nov 11 11:31:38 MDijkstra: do you have a link to that ? Nov 11 11:31:47 sure Nov 11 11:32:01 vpn ftw Nov 11 11:32:14 MDijkstra: we are coming for your head Nov 11 11:32:19 http://www.infosecisland.com/blogview/13919-Dutch-ISP-KPN-Admits-to-Deep-Packet-Inspection.html Nov 11 11:32:29 thanks Nov 11 11:32:50 oh mis-read, you are *not* the former something. Nov 11 11:33:11 it was never implemented though Nov 11 11:33:19 because of public outroar Nov 11 11:34:03 in some countries VoIP is illegal for that reason Nov 11 11:34:18 but the entire problem these telco's have is that they feel they are entitled to their profit margins Nov 11 11:34:31 ie, even though there is a fundamental shift in the way these networks work Nov 11 11:34:36 they shouldn't have to pay the price Nov 11 11:35:09 and some US/CA isps want profits from google / facebook and the like for the traffic they generate I hear? Nov 11 11:35:49 Ethiopia IIRC Nov 11 11:36:05 they have interent Nov 11 11:36:09 ?!? Nov 11 13:21:09 What does getModel() do in getView of ArrayAdapter? Nov 11 13:24:37 Whatever you told getModel() to do Nov 11 13:25:03 Oh, so there's no default implementation right? Nov 11 13:25:08 Cause in the docs it was blank. Nov 11 13:26:39 ArrayAdapter doesn't have a getModel method Nov 11 13:26:46 i'm not even seeing getModel() in ArrayAdapter APIdoc Nov 11 13:26:48 yeah Nov 11 13:30:45 you're right, silly me Nov 11 13:32:46 is there a name for a view that only covers part of the display? like a menu would Nov 11 14:31:09 does anyone have a good resource to learn time complexity concepts (what time complexity is and how it is measured), big O Nov 11 14:44:16 Hi guys, how to change color of the selected date in CalendarView ? Nov 11 15:03:48 how to set current image that is loaded in imageswitcher as wallpaper? Nov 11 15:04:08 Hallo, I wound to upload my App in the market but I get the Message that this app is available for more the 0 devices. Is that normal? Nov 11 15:10:21 i'm using TextWatcher to listen at my editText while writing.. i want it to format like this automatically ABC-123 Nov 11 15:11:13 any idés on what i should use to make this to work? Nov 11 15:19:54 Is it possible to get a map view to load from an address provided to it somehow? Nov 11 15:42:49 anyone know how to use this solution? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11572440/format-edit-text-as-us-phone-number1xxx-xxxx-you-type-in-android Nov 11 16:29:52 hey, is there an alternative to the google maps library? Nov 11 16:30:32 hey, i'm writing a level select activity (you know like the one in angry birds) and everything looks ok on my smartphone (nexus one), but it apperes quite laggy on a tablet -( I'm using customized Gallery Nov 11 16:37:27 @msch alternative U cane use the OSM maps but it is much more complex to use Nov 11 16:37:41 xedp3x: there's no nice library that's like the google maps api? Nov 11 16:38:56 msch: I haven't found one. Nov 11 16:39:03 xedp3x: k, thanks Nov 11 16:42:26 I did the gallery static, no changes... pics are small.. so I don't really know why would it lag. If the only way to make it smootj is to use openGL or something? Nov 11 16:46:10 def Nov 11 16:46:16 Defuera, , whats happening Nov 11 16:47:28 i'm writing a level select activity (you know like the one in angry birds) and everything looks ok on my smartphone (nexus one), but it apperes quite laggy on a tablet -( I'm using customized Gallery Nov 11 16:48:25 eeem, would you remind me where can I post the code so you can see there's nothing extraordinary Nov 11 16:50:02 pastebin.net Nov 11 16:50:09 nomorepasting.com Nov 11 16:50:15 ad a plethora of similar sites Nov 11 16:52:25 anybody a checkstyle config adhering to the rules outlined in http://source.android.com/source/code-style.html? Nov 11 16:53:02 Make one Nov 11 16:55:44 ok Nov 11 17:08:00 Guys, Nov 11 17:08:20 How can I get a notification whenever a crash is being reported in Google Play developer console? Nov 11 17:09:00 you could use acra, but it's kind of a curveball answer to your question since afaik it has nothing to do with the developer console. Nov 11 17:13:51 tdignan: I'll look what it is Nov 11 17:14:24 When using remote views in an app widget, does the remoteviews hierarchy get rebuilt everytime the app widget updates? Nov 11 17:29:14 Is it possible to get a map view to load from an address provided to it somehow? Nov 11 17:30:29 sure, use reverse geocoding to get the lat,long Nov 11 17:33:10 tdignan: thanks Nov 11 17:33:36 dosy cow! Nov 11 17:33:56 I was playing with the sensor api demos int he emulator and tilted my laptop to see them change Nov 11 17:36:07 oops, I had it backwards; It's just geocoding :) Nov 11 17:36:47 tdignan: O_O Isn't it possible? Nov 11 17:36:51 Anoia: i don't think that's hot it works :) Nov 11 17:36:57 napster: of course it's possible! Nov 11 17:37:04 ok Nov 11 17:37:17 tdignan: nah, it's not :) Nov 11 17:38:02 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3574644/how-can-i-find-the-latitude-and-longitude-from-address Nov 11 17:39:14 thanks tdignan :) Nov 11 17:39:45 do you actually need to find the coords or just open a map to the address? Nov 11 17:39:56 you can give an address in an intent Nov 11 17:40:25 Anoia: err, actually need a mapview to an adress, thats all Nov 11 17:40:36 *show an address Nov 11 17:40:41 well, if youre using your own mapview Nov 11 17:40:47 i dunno Nov 11 17:41:09 if you have the logcat viewer attached, try opening an address from the address book and see what intent it opens Nov 11 17:41:16 * napster is a n00b in maps Nov 11 17:41:18 oh, I see Nov 11 17:41:26 I was thinking of juts opneing up google maps Nov 11 17:41:28 the intent you're mentioning is in the stackoverflow thread Nov 11 17:41:35 ok Nov 11 17:42:41 so there is no way to show a set of gps coordinates in a mapview? that seems odd... Nov 11 17:44:09 hy all Nov 11 17:45:12 if I upload the application to the phone, there will be a lot of icons, it will be equal with the activity's number Nov 11 17:45:21 and every icon can start the activities Nov 11 17:45:35 remove the "main" intent filter form each activity Nov 11 17:45:41 okay Nov 11 17:45:57 Is there a method I can call to tell which app widget layout is being added when the configuration activity for that app widget starts? Nov 11 17:47:30 okay, thx Nov 11 17:47:53 and how can I disable the ability to rotate the screen with rotating the phone? Nov 11 17:49:38 Hi, I was using tabs navigation but for some design reasons I decided to change an use a drop-down menu instead. I am using a TabsAdapter. I can swipe tabs as well. I cannot get the menu to change the ViewPager. The drop-down menu updates correctly when I swipe view though. Can someone help me how I can change the content with the drop-down menu please? Code is at http://pastebin.com/9N6fJdGA Nov 11 17:50:13 * jab416171|Cloud jabs tdignan Nov 11 17:55:57 gregtom6: android:screenOrientation="portrait" or lanscape Nov 11 17:59:23 In GridLayout, How do i make the center column take up all the extra space? an impressive visual demo: |2dp|take extra space|2dp| Nov 11 17:59:31 gregtom6: I think you will need to add that to every activity tags in the manifest you want to keep fixed in orientation. Nov 11 18:00:17 okay, I found out Nov 11 18:00:20 that's good now Nov 11 18:00:31 Strangebrew, gravity="fill_horizontal" Nov 11 18:00:41 doesn't work:( Nov 11 18:01:00 Strangebrew, is your GridView match_parent ? Nov 11 18:01:10 (width) Nov 11 18:01:38 how should I detect if there's a bluetooth connection yet or not? Nov 11 18:01:42 nope, was fill parent Nov 11 18:01:47 checking it Nov 11 18:02:15 same thing Nov 11 18:02:23 oh.. Nov 11 18:02:30 yeah, still doesn't work Nov 11 18:03:13 sorry, layout_gravity="fill_horizontal" Nov 11 18:03:48 yeah that's what i thought you meant:) Nov 11 18:03:57 hrm Nov 11 18:04:17 check column counts and spans Nov 11 18:04:28 simplify till it works I guess Nov 11 18:04:58 ok, i'll do. Thanks mrenouf Nov 11 18:08:32 another question, the previously is solved Nov 11 18:08:59 how can I go back a previous activity? Nov 11 18:09:13 just like if i would pressed the back button Nov 11 18:09:30 or how can I switch to a certain activity? Nov 11 18:09:54 this.endactivity I think Nov 11 18:09:56 Is SurfaceView the way to go if I want to do multithreaded drawing? Nov 11 18:10:05 finish() Anoia gregtom6 Nov 11 18:10:07 I started using it, but I find myself a bit limited by it. Nov 11 18:10:22 Like setting a background color seems very difficult. Nov 11 18:10:34 finish() Nov 11 18:10:56 but that will be go to the previous activity, not the first one, I think Nov 11 18:11:13 sorry, I wanted to say how to go back to the first activity? Nov 11 18:11:14 for the first one you'll need an intent Nov 11 18:11:41 there is a way to go further back in the stack Nov 11 18:11:46 but I can;t remember it Nov 11 18:12:24 Anoia: startActivity() to a specific activity and add flag CLEAR_TOP Nov 11 18:12:30 that is a way to do it Nov 11 18:13:10 sounds familier Nov 11 18:13:39 napster: if I call that with that flag, it will kill the previously activities and return to the first one? Nov 11 18:13:48 and only that will be in the stack? Nov 11 18:14:47 gregtom6: hmm not exactly. Suppose the following is the stack currently : A -> B -> C, If you call activity A to start from C + adding the CLEAR_TOP flag, then it will remove B from the stack. Nov 11 18:15:55 so I need to write finish() before calling the activity Nov 11 18:16:16 so B and C will be remove Nov 11 18:16:23 yes? Nov 11 18:17:47 no need to call finish() in this case since CLEAR_TOP will clear all the child activities. Since B & C are child activities of A, they are anyway going to be removed from the stack. Nov 11 18:18:03 okay Nov 11 18:18:37 well, I wrote exactly the same as you said: napster: if I call that with that flag, it will kill the previously activities and return to the first one? [19:13] and only that will be in the stack? Nov 11 18:18:49 and you said "not exactly" Nov 11 18:19:03 what did I say wrong in this? :D Nov 11 18:19:45 May be I didn't read your message correctly :) Nov 11 18:20:12 I thought I didn't use my english correctly Nov 11 18:35:48 napster: did you mean FLAG_ACTIVITY_CLEAR_TOP? Nov 11 18:36:01 yes Nov 11 18:36:06 okay Nov 11 18:36:07 Argh why dont app widgets support proper ellipsizing Nov 11 18:36:43 hey Nov 11 18:37:17 is there a preferred jdk version for android dev? 6 or 7? Nov 11 18:37:42 dunno Nov 11 18:37:59 personally I'd use the first one I managed to make work Nov 11 18:38:45 Android doesn't support the new stuff in java7 Nov 11 18:39:36 napster: it doesn't happen anything Nov 11 18:40:02 Intent intent = new Intent(this, RoboLOGO.class); intent.addFlags(Intent.FLAG_ACTIVITY_CLEAR_TOP); startActivity(intent); Nov 11 18:41:27 gregtom6: If there is any child activity for RoboLOGO activity exists in the stack, they will be removed. Nov 11 18:42:00 well, nothing happens Nov 11 18:42:03 gregtom6: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/Intent.html#FLAG_ACTIVITY_CLEAR_TOP Nov 11 18:42:05 ok well if it doesnt support anything in java7 i might as well stick to jdk6 then? Nov 11 18:42:10 this code is in the sending's try catch block Nov 11 18:42:15 in the catch Nov 11 18:44:22 hi. I've recently started tinkering with opengl, and learned how to make basic shaders on my desktop. I'd like to use them for android development, and I'm wondering if it matters if I choose opengles1.0 over 2.0 because that's what's presented in some of the books I have. I won't be doing 3d for now, just image filters. Nov 11 18:53:31 vydd shaders are 2.0 Nov 11 18:53:51 napster: I know what did they write there Nov 11 18:53:54 but nothing happens Nov 11 18:54:25 gregtom6: "Nothing happens" means? Nov 11 18:56:38 I mean I can't see the change, I'm still on the current activity and not on the first one Nov 11 18:56:50 the application didn't go back to the first activity Nov 11 19:01:15 lasserix: oh :) had no idea. Thanks. I used processing to automagically do everything for me, because I was concentrating on glsl. Anything online that you could recommend, that just takes a bitmap and passes it as a texture to a fragment shader eventually? Nov 11 19:06:04 vydd check out here maybe http://www.learnopengles.com/android-lesson-one-getting-started/ Nov 11 19:06:13 *not that lesson, but under android tutorials Nov 11 19:06:25 but that should help you get setup Nov 11 19:10:11 lasserix: I started reading that already, but thought it could be more straightforward for this case. Ok, back to reading, thanks again! Nov 11 19:10:47 napster: it doesn't work for me Nov 11 19:26:28 if i'm making my own class extending alertdialog and i want it to be 100% custom, do i still use the alert dialog builder? Nov 11 19:28:23 anyone here use vim as their ide? Nov 11 19:33:31 I'm pretty sure I setup my ViewPagerIndicator correctly with a TabPageIndicator but I have no style to the tabs. Nov 11 19:36:13 i'm not really sure what class to extend… i want to make my own settings window that isn't full screen size and is shown over my main window Nov 11 19:36:41 i have alertdialog subclassed but there's no onDraw Nov 11 19:37:25 this is 100% custom not using any existing buttons, etc Nov 11 19:40:19 napster: it doesn't work for me Nov 11 19:40:23 nothing happens Nov 11 19:40:33 all the old activities still be in the stack Nov 11 19:40:49 just like I would write nothing in the code Nov 11 19:41:20 gregtom6: I think you got a bit confused. Old activities will stay in the stack, but the child activites gets removed. Please read the docs. Nov 11 19:42:20 Flag_actvity_clear_top is used normally to avoid duplicate instances of activities in the stack Nov 11 19:43:46 gregtom6: Some info is available on this thread : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7075349/android-clear-activity-stack Nov 11 19:44:03 such as NO_HISTORY Nov 11 19:45:11 but I want to get back to the previous activities too, not just the first activity Nov 11 19:45:20 I want to have a history Nov 11 19:49:47 hi, is there a reasonable way to programmatically to remove/hide the system bar on rooted device running ICS? Nov 11 19:49:58 i can killall it, but can i catch the restart intent somehow Nov 11 19:52:03 is there a document describing how to compile external packages for android? I am trying to compile my small application that uses netlink to communicate to the kernel. Unfortunately I cannot compile it using ndk since the headers are not there ... what should I do Nov 11 19:55:47 hmm, pretty quiet channel for 600+ users Nov 11 19:56:03 Likvidy: *now* Nov 11 19:56:07 take into account the time Nov 11 19:57:22 early night Nov 11 19:57:46 n00b Q. Stock ICS ROM rooted... Need the safest plan possible for a Jelly Bean OTA update. Should I un-root? AT&T Galaxy S III. Thanks Nov 11 19:58:00 Likvidy: i agree Nov 11 19:58:11 Likvidy: or they are all in australia Nov 11 19:59:49 napster: I tried a lot of code out, and nothing happens Nov 11 19:59:59 this seems to be a common problem Nov 11 20:00:01 Hey, can somebody help me with SurfaceView? I'm having trouble setting the background color. Nov 11 20:00:37 gregtom6: What are you trying to achieve exactly by clearing the activity stack? Nov 11 20:01:43 I want to return to the main menu Nov 11 20:02:25 gregtom6: hmm, can you explain? Nov 11 20:03:06 if the bluetooth connection is break and I can't send anything with outputstream, there will be an error and the catch would fly me back to the main menu Nov 11 20:03:16 where I can connect again to the bluetooth module Nov 11 20:04:08 ok, why not just call finish() from inside the catch block? Nov 11 20:04:38 this will end your current activity and fly you back to the immediate parent. Nov 11 20:05:43 well, finish() doesn't work too Nov 11 20:06:41 gregtom6: Are you sure its being called? Nov 11 20:06:43 well, I started B from A with Intent intent = new Intent(this, MainMenu.class); startActivity(intent); Nov 11 20:07:04 main menu is the B activity Nov 11 20:07:09 the A has a different name Nov 11 20:07:20 I don't know if the B is a child activity or not Nov 11 20:08:02 B is the child activity of A since -> "started B from A" Nov 11 20:08:34 okay Nov 11 20:09:01 gregtom6: You may create a pastebin to share the code. Nov 11 20:09:09 *paste Nov 11 20:11:27 hmm, that isn't being called Nov 11 20:11:33 I don't know why Nov 11 20:12:56 If you are calling finish() from a catch block, may be there is no exception to catch Nov 11 20:13:59 is there a version of monkeyrunner that i can run on the phone itself Nov 11 20:15:42 that's weird Nov 11 20:16:02 how can I compile a single package from android/platform/external and put it into my rooted device? Nov 11 20:21:52 how can I disable the error message what pops up if the application is crashed? Nov 11 20:22:04 *the activity is crashed Nov 11 20:24:29 gregtom6: By avoiding crashes :) Nov 11 20:25:47 and how should I detect if it is a bluetooth connection or not? Nov 11 20:32:33 why isn't this simple layout drawing to the screen? http://pastebin.com/gSUec89S Nov 11 20:37:56 Why does TitlePageIndicator have a default style yet TabPageIndicator has no default style? Nov 11 20:38:00 gregtom6, if *what* is a bluetooth connection? Nov 11 20:39:50 ultra-, you're not painting in the right spot. you're left/top are always 0, that should be getting if from onLayout Nov 11 20:42:56 ok thanks Nov 11 20:43:22 i figured i'd set left/top once i actually know the size.. for now i just want to display something Nov 11 20:44:39 i've overridden onLayout but i don't know what to put there Nov 11 20:45:58 You have to call setWillNotDraw(false) Nov 11 20:47:25 that did it, thanks Nov 11 20:49:57 i have SGS3 GT-I9300 , my problem is the contact list take long time to load a full discription http://goo.gl/FgO90 if this not th correct chanel please redirect me to the correct one Nov 11 20:50:40 #android Nov 11 20:51:46 ok thank you , but since i am rooted , can i tell android task manager to white list contact app ? Nov 11 20:51:59 #android-root Nov 11 20:52:07 nice :) Nov 11 20:53:16 this layout is going to be shown via a dialog using a dialog builder… i'm seeing my rectangle now, but the size isn't what i want (too much width) and it seems to be ignoring my layoutparams Nov 11 20:54:02 Your implementation is ignoring layoutparams Nov 11 20:54:18 You set a fixed size Nov 11 20:54:41 yeah, but i get the same results even if i comment that out Nov 11 20:56:53 seems i'm going to be doing a lot of custom layouts, buttons, etc etc etc… do you know an android 3+ book that has good focus on that? Nov 11 20:57:34 No, I just looked at framework classes to see how it works Nov 11 20:58:26 how can I buuld aosp with packages from /platrofm/external? Nov 11 21:05:45 is there another way to define a layout's width when it's used as a dialog? Nov 11 21:08:41 ultra-: obj.getLayoutParams().width = screenWidth; Nov 11 21:09:02 thanks Nov 11 21:10:44 that didn't do it either… i set that in onLayout Nov 11 21:11:01 it has some default rectangle drawn that goes beyond the one i'm drawing Nov 11 21:11:14 which layout? Nov 11 21:11:52 i'm using RelativeLayout for this Nov 11 21:11:57 but i could use any layout, really Nov 11 21:12:21 i'm going to build/draw all the controls from scratch… this is a settings window that's not supposed to fill the entire screen Nov 11 21:12:27 use it on the object inside that layout Nov 11 21:12:31 i call it via a builder Nov 11 21:13:17 well the only objects are a rectangle and paint, really Nov 11 21:13:26 one sec Nov 11 21:14:11 http://pastebin.com/0Z9iJU4n Nov 11 21:14:56 this is called via a dialog builder… the rectangle is drawn properly, and the height of the window is correct… but there's a default rectangle drawn on it (by the system, not me) that is wider than my rectangle… it's the actual window, i guess Nov 11 21:15:43 anyone? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13178022/addaccountexplicitly-throws-illegalstateexception-caused-by-securityexception Nov 11 21:15:44 i'd like to make that invisible as i'm doing everythign from scratch, but also not let it affect the width Nov 11 21:18:07 I can't believe I can't go back to the main menu Nov 11 21:18:07 ... Nov 11 21:18:23 how can I go back to the main menu? Nov 11 21:26:30 what do you mean, the main menu? Nov 11 21:38:19 Osiris! Nov 11 21:38:20 how can I detect if the bluetooth connection is interrupted? (the connection is lost) Nov 11 21:46:28 somebody? I tried to search for it, but everybody writes everything Nov 11 21:46:35 and can't find a simple, normal code Nov 11 21:56:02 I fixed a bug in part of CM10 and I'm about to repo upload, and it warns "One or more branches has an unusually high number of commits. YOU PROBABLY DID NOT MEAN TO DO THIS. (Did you rebase across branches?)" The answer is yes, I rebased my branch on top of origin/jellybean to take in its updates. SO, should I read the question like- "Did you rebase? Because in that case it's fine and you should proceed." Or does it m Nov 11 21:58:52 You should probably ask cyanogenmod Nov 11 21:59:47 Hey, I use a in my layout.xml. If the app is started as usual, content is displayed. But now I also want to be able to start the app from the browser using intent-filters. I was able to do that. Nov 11 22:00:17 However, I don't know how to pass the getIntent().getData() to my fragment. Nov 11 22:00:25 Since I don't instanciate it programmatically. Nov 11 22:01:28 How can I do that? Nov 11 22:02:48 elliptic1, you generally dont want to rebase across branches like that Nov 11 22:03:11 i believe it has the same effect as merging the new branch into the old branch Nov 11 22:03:23 I guess I can just do getActivity().getIntent(), d'oh Nov 11 22:03:50 Or get a reference to the fragment and pass it the data Nov 11 22:03:55 you can do getFragmentById(id).someMethod(intent) Nov 11 22:04:02 * canadiancow high fives SimonVT Nov 11 22:04:12 o/ Nov 11 22:14:43 herp Nov 11 22:18:47 hi, we are some devs over at sensation xl that are trying to port a rom from htc one to htc sensation xl, it goes pretty good and we are only one bad bug left, here is the data : Device: HTC Sensation XL , android 4.0.4 sense 4.1 , when incall and i get a sms the sound is getting routed to bluetooth headset, before i can get sound from speaker in call i need to press mute on and mute off again. i know that this places is not for sensation xl, Nov 11 22:25:33 hi, we are some devs over at sensation xl that are trying to port a rom from htc one to htc sensation xl, it goes pretty good and we are only one bad bug left, here is the data : Device: HTC Sensation XL , android 4.0.4 sense 4.1 , when incall and i get a sms the sound is getting routed to bluetooth headset, before i can get sound from speaker in call i need to press mute on and mute off again. i know that this places is not for sensation xl, Nov 11 22:27:44 come again? Nov 11 23:07:19 hi there Nov 11 23:08:49 I have a problem with adb device I cant get my HTC desire on adb device list and I'm using windows 8 ? Nov 11 23:09:14 have you installed HTC's USB drivers? Nov 11 23:09:48 i try it but it says not compatible i think its couse win 8 Nov 11 23:10:10 I don't see why not. Windows 8 is basically identical to 7 on the device driver level Nov 11 23:10:23 well if you can't install the USB drivers, you're out of luck Nov 11 23:10:30 :( Nov 11 23:14:07 is there any way for an android app to do the equivalent of monkey runner touch events? Nov 11 23:14:44 why would you need to? Nov 11 23:30:57 question, do you guys think i should trade my new iphone 4 8gb for an htc inspire ? Nov 11 23:31:02 android 2.3.3 Nov 11 23:35:01 anyone? Nov 11 23:36:40 i think no Nov 11 23:37:11 hello. newby here..just started a new project with "tabs+swipe" implemented. then added 3 more tabs. now it works as expected in portrait but the tabs are collaped in a dropdown in landscape. how do i avoid this behaviour ? Nov 11 23:37:28 well, check rom development for it Nov 11 23:38:20 but 2.3 is a rather old version that personally i think was not very good and either way it's definitely not future proof Nov 11 23:38:42 hardware-wise it looks like it could support newer versions though Nov 11 23:39:01 sorry, I think I missed some of your messages, ivdorelian Nov 11 23:39:48 leslie, i was talking to headrx "wrt do you guys think i should trade my new iphone 4 8gb for an htc inspire ?" Nov 11 23:40:09 ah. yeah, 2.3 is too old Nov 11 23:40:39 hmm Nov 11 23:40:42 maybe i wont then Nov 11 23:41:04 if you can find custom roms with 4.0 it might be worth considering but honestly i'd try to get a newer device Nov 11 23:41:40 Apparently 2.3 is now 2 years old Nov 11 23:42:19 yeah Nov 11 23:42:23 i think your probally right Nov 12 00:03:50 Hey Nov 12 00:06:48 Do you think we can already order n4 at midnight? Nov 12 00:07:47 AndChat|505: even if so, do you really think they will ship it at midnight? Patience ;) Nov 12 00:08:22 So does Google PR say in an Interview Nov 12 00:08:33 hello everyone Nov 12 00:09:02 Hi jb41 Nov 12 00:09:13 jb41 = 4.1 jelly bean ? :) Nov 12 00:09:26 Nice one :) Nov 12 00:10:29 No Googler online tonight? Nov 12 00:10:51 ok, here's my problem: i have server on my localhost, and client app is android application. Client doesn't connect to the server, why? I do have in manifest. My HTC is in the same wifi network that my laptop, so browser can connect with my server, but client app can't. Nov 12 00:11:06 ufff... ; p anyone have similar problem? Nov 12 00:11:07 AndChat|505: kroot and morrildl, I think Nov 12 00:11:27 jb41: is the server on your laptop or the android device? Nov 12 00:11:36 server on my laptop Nov 12 00:11:45 firewall on the laptop? Nov 12 00:11:45 client on the android device Nov 12 00:11:55 can browser on the phone connect? Nov 12 00:12:03 i don't think so, browser from android see my server Nov 12 00:12:16 So don't kroot or morrildl know about the time? XD Patience is not my strength Nov 12 00:12:20 what's it failing with? Nov 12 00:13:30 in listactivity item layout, how can I have a right alligned checkbox and a textview filling the rest of the width? Nov 12 00:24:04 Anoia: are you able to use a checkedtextview? [in general, I just use a custom adapter for list widgets] Nov 12 00:28:13 yeah, I'll be using a custom adapter (I expect) Nov 12 00:28:23 but was just doing the layout atm Nov 12 00:28:37 I hadn;t thought of a single integrated control Nov 12 00:29:37 that pattern is so common (textview + textbox) so that widget is pretty handy. Nov 12 00:29:45 er, textview + checkbox Nov 12 00:32:42 is there an indeterminate state? Nov 12 00:32:49 yes, no, unchecked Nov 12 00:33:53 and file not found :) Nov 12 00:34:16 heh. Aren't checkboxes in general just binary? maybe I'm thinking of something other than what you have in mind. Nov 12 00:35:40 win32 ones have an indeterminate state (square filling as opposed to a tick or empty) Nov 12 00:36:00 quite often used to signify indeterminate Nov 12 00:36:09 or undefined Nov 12 00:38:39 interesting, didn't realize that. I guess having the checkbox be disabled might be the closest equivalent. Nov 12 00:38:51 hmm Nov 12 00:39:07 I was thinking of the red cross, green tick or just grey/empty Nov 12 00:39:19 I suppose I could do it by changed the drawable image Nov 12 00:39:35 oh well, I'll do soem reading, thanks Nov 12 00:39:37 you can style all that in xml, pretty much -- yes. Nov 12 00:55:11 having created a custom Notification (with RemoteViews layout) containing a button, how can i play around with the layout's button from within theNotification's foreground Service Nov 12 00:56:20 hi Nov 12 00:56:27 hello Nov 12 00:56:30 is there a way to disable the tabs on an action bar? Nov 12 00:56:52 thats not my area of knowledge im afraid Nov 12 00:57:04 do you know anything about https connections? Nov 12 00:58:20 * regedit 's area of knowledge also consists mostly of saying hello Nov 12 01:03:01 OK I'm here Nov 12 01:06:23 how to change the content of a foreground-service's custom Notification (RemoteViews) ? Nov 12 01:07:08 change i.e. update Nov 12 01:08:41 usually i'd just play with the Notification and notify() with the right ID, but in this case its with a RemoteViews & layout xml Nov 12 01:08:58 *it's Nov 12 01:10:07 Anybody working on any cool android projects? Nov 12 01:10:19 turb1ne247: sure, why Nov 12 01:10:20 always Nov 12 01:10:31 how does one enable the "Heap" view in eclipse? Nov 12 01:10:38 err, how do I get my project to show up in there as a client? Nov 12 01:13:12 I'm just looking for a project to work on. Something that could be useful. I can't seem to think of something that someone else hasn't already created. Nov 12 01:13:55 turb1ne247: what are your skillz, send resume Nov 12 01:15:50 Kinda new to android development. Made a bunch of little apps. Just learning the basics like switching between activities and launching widgets like WebView. Nov 12 01:20:10 hi Nov 12 01:22:13 turb1ne247: PM Nov 12 01:25:29 hello I need some help Nov 12 01:25:47 with what? Nov 12 01:26:18 I'm creating android application that get texts from db ,and show them as a table where number of rows depend on number of texts on that db each text will be shown on row and a share button beside it Nov 12 01:26:33 I created 2 layouts , 1 for my table and another for each row now I fill each row with a function addtablerow but how can I identify each button for exact row ? Nov 12 01:26:52 cause only last button works will and other button has no action?? I thought of creating array of buttons but always it crashes on creation ! Nov 12 01:27:30 Maybe using the button ID's? Nov 12 01:27:44 i have only 1 defined button ID Nov 12 01:27:52 and i use it always to add new one Nov 12 01:27:59 depend on number of items on my db Nov 12 01:41:16 Anyone knows a good way to interrupt an UsbDeviceConnection.requestWait() call hung on a slave thread? (the device doesn't necessairly send out packets) Nov 12 01:43:41 UsbRequest.cancel() doesn't seem to interrupt the call. Sending a signal doesn't interrupt it either (usb_request_wait in usbhost.c seems to explicitly ignore EINTR) Nov 12 02:12:57 Can someone explain what an ArrayAdapater is? I've been reading the docs, but I still don't understand what they do Nov 12 02:13:54 they allow you to insert an array, such as a list of towns, into UI elements such as a list Nov 12 02:19:03 that's clear, thanks TheFred Nov 12 02:21:01 hi Nov 12 02:21:23 anyone knows how to implement a swipe action in android? Nov 12 02:23:40 shuichi: I use gesture listener Nov 12 02:34:43 anyone know if JDBM4/MapDB relies on NIO.2 ? Nov 12 02:41:02 napster I want a swipe list Nov 12 02:41:15 and use view switcher to switch between 2 views Nov 12 02:41:47 but the list item couldnt receive "item clicked" event when view is switched Nov 12 02:41:58 so I can switch to the origin view Nov 12 02:42:18 shuichi: Try using viewpager then Nov 12 02:43:07 napster I just want to flip the list item Nov 12 02:43:13 not the whole Fragment Nov 12 02:43:39 I see Nov 12 02:43:55 So you want to swipe on list items right? Nov 12 02:44:02 yeah Nov 12 02:44:52 is there anyway napster? Nov 12 02:45:32 I see some info on this thread : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4373485/android-swipe-on-list shuichi Nov 12 02:45:48 yeah Nov 12 02:46:18 I also read this thread Nov 12 02:47:13 the problem is after detecting the swipe action, I want to switch between 2 views Nov 12 02:47:50 i tried to use view flipper and view switcher Nov 12 02:48:02 and successfully switch the list item to the second view Nov 12 02:48:07 but from the second view Nov 12 02:48:14 I can't switch back to the first view Nov 12 02:48:36 it seems that my list item w/ the second view doesn't receive the item click event **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Nov 12 02:59:58 2012