**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 24 02:59:58 2012 Dec 24 03:11:49 When using opengl, what actually calls onDrawFrame? Dec 24 04:15:35 I just installed the current ADT bundle on Ubuntu 12.10 64-bit and fired up Eclipse Dec 24 04:15:45 Tried to import a project, and get this error message: http://i.imgur.com/jvhfY.png Dec 24 04:17:06 (It thinks my tools are out of date / are not installed because it's looking in atd-bundle-linux_86 rather than atd-bundle-linux-x86_64 as it should be) Dec 24 04:18:17 Could something on my end be causing this, or is ADT on 64-bit linux just this broken? Dec 24 04:20:56 could be that you did not set up path variables correctly Dec 24 04:21:45 Hmm. Evidently, Eclipse was grabbing the Android SDK path setting from an older Eclipse configuration Dec 24 04:22:08 Didn't think the ADT-bundled eclipse would collide with that. Seems good now Dec 24 04:22:14 older eclipse, hmm Dec 24 04:22:29 you mean you the setup working ?? Dec 24 04:22:50 I don't understand the question Dec 24 04:22:57 My setup is working now Dec 24 04:23:16 thats the answer I was questioning about Dec 24 04:23:33 good to hear that you got the setup working Dec 24 04:23:39 enjoy coding Dec 24 04:31:39 Doesn't the emulator support opengl ES2? I turned on GPU emulation and the emulator runs much faster, but my apps stuff report that ES2 is not supported Dec 24 04:33:24 http://www.learnopengles.com/android-emulator-now-supports-native-opengl-es2-0/ this says apps run on the emulator always return false when checking for ES2 support Dec 24 04:33:39 but, I get an exception when I simply comment out the check Dec 24 04:34:31 hello guys Dec 24 04:34:37 android:choiceMode="multipleChoice" this doesnt do anything alone? Dec 24 04:48:12 Parhs: huh? Dec 24 04:58:46 I'm a little confused about how to use SQLiteDatabase and SQLiteOpenHelper Dec 24 04:58:54 I have my helper set up as a singleton Dec 24 04:59:26 now helper.getReadableDatabase() should return the same object each time, correct? Dec 24 05:01:56 so do I need to worry about closing the database? Dec 24 05:08:00 no ill close it on the way home :P Dec 24 05:09:45 Can something written in SDL be ported to android easily ? Dec 24 05:13:07 all my db queries are on an ASyncTask. I'm worried that ASyncTasks containing a reference to my Database and helper might cause problems Dec 24 05:15:27 Do you open it in the asynch? It should be valid for its lifetime right? And when the asynch closes it closes the DB for you I thought Dec 24 05:17:04 I havent explored a lot there yet but I actually thought the DB was closed when its immediate function exited unless you store the pointer in the class level then its for the activity lifetime Dec 24 05:28:44 capella: well here's what I wonder. Since my helper is a singleton, does every call to getReadableDatabase() return the same object? Dec 24 05:29:12 if thats the case, I only need to call close() once Dec 24 05:30:28 a URl is an error message? ;-) Dec 24 05:31:02 are there any gotchas when it comes to handling hardware versus software keyboards? Dec 24 05:31:19 I want to bring up the software keyboard if no hardware one is "visible" Dec 24 05:31:41 but what about if the user "unhides" a HW keyboard while the software one is up? Dec 24 05:31:49 is there any default behavior that the system does in this case? Dec 24 05:31:59 could be...also for whatever reason the ADT bundle works better on Windows Dec 24 05:35:49 Hm, I'm trying to use adb to install my app (first little test app, whee!) on my phone. However, adb says error:device not found \nwaiting for device. I plugged my phone in via usb cable, it says "Connected as a media device", I have debugging enabled... Dec 24 05:36:09 Also says "USB debugging connected Dec 24 05:37:12 windows? Dec 24 05:37:44 Ubuntu. Dec 24 05:37:52 Galaxy Nexus (google phone). Dec 24 05:38:16 It worked before, I installed my app, not sure what I'm doing different now. Dec 24 05:38:48 Except, perhaps, I recall that before when I plugged it in (last month), it popped up a screen on the phone and I selected an option. That doesn't seem to be happening now when I plug it in. Dec 24 05:38:57 (before it was basically a "hello world" android app :-). Dec 24 05:39:07 puff: what did it do? Dec 24 05:39:27 puff : did you do an update on your phone recently? Dec 24 05:39:36 Yeah, updatd it a few weeks ago. Dec 24 05:39:37 that can reset the developer mode options on your phone Dec 24 05:39:52 Developer Options still say USB debugging enabled. Dec 24 05:39:55 meaning you'll have to go back in and turn developer options back on Dec 24 05:40:09 that's not enough Dec 24 05:40:24 Developer Options is "on". Dec 24 05:41:11 Hm,turned Developer Options off and back on, re-checked USB debugging. Dec 24 05:41:28 Same results from ADB. Dec 24 05:42:52 Could it be linux isn't mounting it properly, or something? Dec 24 05:43:01 how do i import existing projects into workspace on the command line? i'm trying to follow http://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/280 but use command line instead Dec 24 05:43:22 it's not enough to simply have USB debugging on Dec 24 05:43:33 you need to go into the developer options and set the other stuff as well, I think Dec 24 05:43:52 I'd check my N7, as I had to do this recently as well, but I'm in the middle of testing Dec 24 05:44:12 Hm. Dec 24 05:44:26 Good point, I'll try plugging in my N7and see if I get the same. Dec 24 05:47:10 Heh,I see they hid the developer options. Cute. Dec 24 05:48:17 Okay, so did the thing to reveal the developer options on my N7, then turned on USB debugging, then unplugged USb and replugged USB... adb still doesn't see any devices. Dec 24 05:49:52 Son of a... this fixed it: http://zacktutorials.blogspot.com/2012/08/nexus7-android-development.html Dec 24 05:50:27 TL;DR: go into settings, storage, menu/USB Computer Connection and then check Camera(PTP). Dec 24 05:51:15 Or go to the same screen via the "Connected as Media Device" message that you get when you plug in the cable. Dec 24 05:55:09 Okay, it installs now, but when I run the app, which just does a simple HTTP post, it says "Unfortunately, AppName has stopped." Dec 24 05:55:51 I'm not using multithreading with the HTTP post, so that may be the problem, though nothing I've read indicated it should be a problem unless the post takes too long, in which case I'd get the "app not responding". Dec 24 05:56:59 I guess this is the part where I read up on using ADB to debug :-). Dec 24 05:59:29 I guess "adb logcat" is the right place to start. Dec 24 06:10:02 How can I differentiate between two Services that were created by Extending binder? Dec 24 06:11:06 the only 'interesting' API calls I see are Binder.getCalling Pid/Uid , but I don't see how those would help, if a service created by Extending Binder runs in the same process Dec 24 06:14:10 maslen, you cast them once you receive the binder Dec 24 06:14:21 is there a 64bit version of android sdk Dec 24 06:14:28 linuxuz3r, does it matter? Dec 24 06:15:08 linuxuz3r: pew Dec 24 06:15:13 pfn: Sorry, could you explain that? Dec 24 06:15:26 all the people asking for 64bit without knowing what it is other than ITS MOAR BITS! Dec 24 06:16:48 Perhaps I can explain a bit more... I launch two Services, which make calls into a object. I want a way to see which of the services is making the call Dec 24 06:17:16 yah and an 8 cyclinder engine is the same as a six but its moar cylinders ? Dec 24 06:19:15 it all depends on the use case. Dec 24 06:19:51 capella: i'm sure your 93 civic can use all that power Dec 24 06:19:58 my point being Dec 24 06:20:48 type faster Dec 24 06:21:03 no that was my point Dec 24 06:21:07 o Dec 24 06:21:12 it's a bad one Dec 24 06:21:20 :P Dec 24 06:22:42 i'm just cranky because i haven't had my prune juice yet Dec 24 06:23:12 You're suggesting that people asking for 64 bits are, like Tim Allen, simply looking for "MORE POWER", without really understanding what they're getting and why? Dec 24 06:23:56 capella: most people don't really know the tradeoffs Dec 24 06:24:14 The prostitution rests Dec 24 06:25:33 Larger address spaces ! Faster bus throughtput! Higher precisions FPU! Dec 24 06:27:01 Thought I'm not really sure how important that is in a device basically meant to transmit phone calls Dec 24 06:33:43 very important..it also it meant to process data Dec 24 06:46:27 Hrm. I am evidently not smart enough to use a library in my project. Dec 24 06:47:06 After importing it into my workspace, everything appears peachy. Then when I try to run the application, it crashes immediately Dec 24 06:47:13 "Unable to resolve..." Dec 24 06:47:20 "Link of class...failed" Dec 24 07:05:18 Hi. I have a PreferenceActivity with a CheckBoxPreference that I'm trying to set the default value to true. No matter what I try, its default value is always false. I've tried many "solutions" from Stack Overflow but none of them work. Does anyone know how I could fix this? Dec 24 07:07:27 kangarang: you can specify a default value to take for a preference if it was not stored. Dec 24 07:07:39 should not be very difficult Dec 24 07:08:07 I mean in the PreferenceActivity itself Dec 24 07:08:39 When a user goes to the activity, I want the checkbox preference to be checked already Dec 24 07:09:52 one of those life cycle methods, maybe set it there Dec 24 07:10:04 oncreate ... i forget them all, u can google them Dec 24 07:13:22 howdy folks! Dec 24 07:15:52 currently watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amZM8oZBgfk&list=PL56D792A831D0C362&index=12 Dec 24 07:16:17 hilarious to see the fragmentation be defined as, "not [comparatively] difficult." Dec 24 07:17:00 At the moment, I've got AIDE, and a Nexus 7. I want to make a *shudders*app, are there any recommendations for a tutorial? Dec 24 07:17:54 The official doc pages are buggy for android browsing(at least on chrome), and seem to be super eclipse oriented Dec 24 07:50:54 hey Dec 24 07:51:00 can someone here help Dec 24 08:16:01 linuxu3r, with what? Dec 24 08:16:30 *linuzuz3r with what? Dec 24 08:21:09 Regarding Android Open Gl texture compression support, if you don't specify the compression formats, it will not use any compression correct? Dec 24 08:27:48 anyone up Dec 24 08:28:08 hi torchie Dec 24 08:28:28 cannot bind 'tcp:5037' Dec 24 08:28:28 ADB server didn't ACK Dec 24 08:28:28 * failed to start daemon * Dec 24 08:28:28 error: cannot connect to daemo Dec 24 08:28:34 whats wrong Dec 24 08:28:43 i netstat and 5037 is open Dec 24 08:58:27 hi all Dec 24 08:58:41 i am trying to do a gps implementation Dec 24 08:59:03 locationManager.getLastKnownLocation(locationProvider); always return null Dec 24 08:59:16 can anyone please tell me how to resolve this ... Dec 24 08:59:35 i am running it on the device with gps enabled Dec 24 09:02:34 sunny_slls: I know that GPS is a little tricky... you can't just turn it on and expect it to work. It has to "warm up" first, the radio has to get turned on and it has to listen for satellite GPS signals. Dec 24 09:03:47 ok puff so how long does it take normally to "warm up" ? Dec 24 09:03:48 getLastKnownLocation can only provide coordinate Dec 24 09:04:08 if a coordinate already available from previous session Dec 24 09:04:43 if not you either, set a default, while waiting for the system to locate the device and provide you with the coord Dec 24 09:04:44 or Dec 24 09:04:53 just wait until you get the coord Dec 24 09:05:01 and refresh the map Dec 24 09:05:07 so how does the gps apps usually works if it takes such a long time to work? Dec 24 09:05:23 Maziz: if not you either, set a default, while waiting for the system to locate the device and provide you with the coord Dec 24 09:05:37 ok Dec 24 09:06:47 hello, I'm trying to get my app versionName using this code: http://pastebin.com/AEUaPJzG ... unfortunately it doesn't seem to work, ie I'm getting nothing with that System.out call, any hint? thanks Dec 24 09:07:02 sunny_slls: At the 2010 Google I/O I remember they had a session about how to write well-behaved GPS apps, and there were some bits about this sort of thing in general. The video should be onlnie. Dec 24 09:07:37 ok thanks puff Dec 24 09:09:27 sunny_slls: Might have been this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y85OqhioMDw Dec 24 09:09:35 sunny_slls: Or this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUemfrKe65c Dec 24 09:10:12 sunny_slls: The second one is about battery life, but managing GPS (and hence anticipating issues that delay getting a location) is a big part of it. Dec 24 09:10:20 ya i saw that :-) Dec 24 09:10:38 puff: Dec 24 09:10:40 ok Dec 24 09:10:47 thanks puff Dec 24 09:12:16 Okay, this is weird... well, not that weird. Probably just a flushing issue. Dec 24 09:12:58 I'm trying to do a simple HTTP post and it wasn't going through. But then I added a line to read the status code from the response and suddenly it was. Probably the connection needed to be flushed and it wasn't being flushed until I read the status code. Dec 24 09:21:13 puff: yes you should also finalize it ... close or something when you are done Dec 24 09:21:52 the java.net API is kinda interesting in that it doesn't explicitly have command to begin the connection or anything, it just happens when you need something that implies connection must have been performed Dec 24 09:22:08 similarly the close() doesn't necessarily close, it just tells this logical http req-resp is done Dec 24 09:37:59 Guys, is there any modification you need to make in order to use open GL on 7 inch screen. I have an application that runs successfully on 10 inch and smart phone, but fails to load texture on 7 inch Dec 24 09:38:02 any ideas? Dec 24 09:44:22 do u really think its the size of the screen Dec 24 09:44:39 and not the model or os version Dec 24 09:46:41 hey guys, im a noob.. got a pretty simple app going with two activities, A1 calls A2, but if I press the back button or try and finish() in the 2nd activity, the app crashes Dec 24 09:47:36 however, it does return to the first activity... however the 'x has stopped working' is kinda annoying... any idea whaty might cause this? i don't have any onPause/onX apart from create in either activity Dec 24 09:57:16 * capella wonders if Android 4.1.2 is API 16, and Android 4.0.3 is API 15, and addAction() was added to notifications in API 16, and my version of JB is 4.1.1, is that why addAction() doesn't work for my builds? Dec 24 10:12:56 How can I populate a spinner from a MySQL database? Dec 24 10:43:45 can you create an alertdialog without using a fragment manager Dec 24 11:21:52 Why could view.getId() == brandsSpinner.getId() return false if I click brandsSpinner? Dec 24 11:22:10 On method onItemSelected(AdapterView parent, View view, ...) Dec 24 11:23:22 if i want an animation to repeat infinitely on one image, can i put the animation in that imageview's xml layout entry Dec 24 11:50:42 holy fuck this irc is vapid/useless Dec 24 11:53:18 why? Dec 24 11:53:47 cxeq: we would disagree Dec 24 11:55:32 cxeq: that comment was vapid Dec 24 11:55:43 cutwe Dec 24 11:56:00 you contribute to the vapidity of this irc Dec 24 11:56:16 true ice burn Dec 24 11:56:18 what we are vapid? haven't noticed that yet Dec 24 11:56:20 real talk right there Dec 24 11:59:28 the proverbial (should I say... pragmatic?) "no u" Dec 24 12:00:47 okay might be me not beeing native speaker again, but what the hell is he talking about? can anyone translate that for me? Dec 24 12:01:01 My nexus 7 is telling me to update to jb,Should i? Dec 24 12:03:45 brx_: AFAIK N7 already has JB :S Dec 24 12:05:20 FernandoMiguel: Says "this sw update will upgrade ur nexus u to jellybean " Dec 24 12:05:35 with all those typos :) Dec 24 12:05:39 In notification area Dec 24 12:05:45 Yep ;) Dec 24 12:05:55 brx_, don't you want Jelly Bean? Dec 24 12:05:55 Hmmm Dec 24 12:06:18 brx_ it has jb, your prob on about a small update Dec 24 12:06:33 I want most compatibility NITR0GEN really Dec 24 12:06:51 computability with what ? Dec 24 12:06:55 what's that? Dec 24 12:07:07 I suppose i dont want any suprises Dec 24 12:07:16 Compat* Dec 24 12:07:25 yeah that Dec 24 12:07:27 :) Dec 24 12:07:37 will JB bring any surprises with it? Dec 24 12:07:38 Lol i bet that sohnded so dumb Dec 24 12:07:44 except all the pleasant ones :D Dec 24 12:07:57 mute point/question neways Dec 24 12:08:07 do whatever you do with your desktop OS Dec 24 12:08:30 windows update/ osx update / linux updates Dec 24 12:08:32 etc Dec 24 12:09:03 StringRay_ 1) Update, 2) OH SH*T 3) Downgrade? Dec 24 12:09:04 although.... there is a bug with the updated 4.2+ keyboard Dec 24 12:10:02 Oh ye, Bug? Dec 24 12:10:26 brx_, what version is it on now? Dec 24 12:10:28 ppl still use stock keyboards? Dec 24 12:10:36 I'm Swiftkey Beta ALL THE WAY Dec 24 12:10:59 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2058791 Dec 24 12:11:22 FernandoMiguel, on low spec phones yes Dec 24 12:11:24 :( Dec 24 12:11:30 meh Dec 24 12:11:41 my Sony Sola stock is a bit faster Dec 24 12:11:48 but I miss SK features Dec 24 12:27:18 how can you check for a feature at runtime? Dec 24 12:28:14 depends on feature Dec 24 12:28:34 normally feature api has ability to check Dec 24 12:31:17 got it Dec 24 12:31:30 getPackageManager().hasSystemFeature("feature") Dec 24 12:47:42 Is anyone know a good Android Quadtree implementation? Dec 24 12:50:59 google does. Dec 24 12:52:16 really? Dec 24 13:07:18 'ello Dec 24 13:07:48 quick, probably silly question - what's the best way to display a huge amount of text, like a TOS document? Do I save the rext file as a raw resource? As a String variable? Dec 24 13:08:06 html? Dec 24 13:09:01 pragma-: Do you have a link or something like that? Dec 24 13:20:52 Eclipse is being awfully slow... is there some cache that can be cleared to stop it from locking up for 15 seconds every time it builds the workspace? Dec 24 13:21:29 Tee_Pee: you could disable build automatically. Dec 24 13:22:00 yeah but then I lose pretty much all reason to use an IDE in the first place, no? Dec 24 13:22:03 Tee_Pee: I generally store TOS like documents as HTML Dec 24 13:22:22 Tee_Pee: shrug. I use IntelliJ. Dec 24 13:22:26 aye, decided to do that as well Dec 24 13:23:08 everyone keeps suggesting IntelliJ Dec 24 13:23:13 i will try that too this time Dec 24 13:23:14 albeit I took my HTML and shoved it inside of a textview Dec 24 13:23:25 via setText(Html.fromHtml()) Dec 24 13:25:01 Tee_Pee: I usually just use a webview. Dec 24 13:38:42 Hmmm, is there a way to solve this Dec 24 13:39:02 I assigned my HTML to a textview, and I set android:scrollbars = "vertical" Dec 24 13:39:32 the scrolling however is quite stiff Dec 24 13:39:34 I can't fling Dec 24 13:39:40 can that be rectified? Dec 24 14:10:46 Hi I got could not open selected VM debug port in eclipse. What could be the problem? Dec 24 14:16:43 hello i am making Google TV application but i it is invisible for Google TV devices u can see my manifest hire http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14022333/google-tv-supported-android-devices-0-devices Dec 24 14:18:21 is there some inherent property of spinners that make them follow you around (be anchored at one point of the screen)? if yes, how do I change this? if no, what might be causing this behaviour then? Dec 24 14:27:48 hmpf Dec 24 14:27:59 Quite a bit of an issue here Dec 24 14:28:20 I have a list preference, and all I want in addition to the default behavior is a short message on top Dec 24 14:28:42 I suppose I can create a custom list preference class and just load my own layout that emulates the default layout? Dec 24 14:29:00 but that doesn't seem right, I feel like I'm missing something obvious Dec 24 14:50:14 you wont get an answer here tee pee Dec 24 14:50:19 no one gets an answer here Dec 24 14:51:36 cxeq - Not really... sometimes it's more active, sometimes less. Dec 24 14:51:42 I've been here for a while :p Dec 24 14:55:46 lol great Dec 24 14:55:58 my first 'real' project Dec 24 14:56:04 requires me do dive into the ndk Dec 24 14:57:01 hello Dec 24 14:57:04 anyone here? Dec 24 14:57:09 yes Dec 24 14:57:19 hello Dec 24 14:57:21 this is dog Dec 24 14:59:09 hm. when I have a ListView and a Spinner in a LinearLayout, how do I make it possible to scroll the entire LinearLayout as opposed to just the ListView? Dec 24 14:59:57 i want to have a list or buttons with available tables and as tab the available rooms. Dec 24 15:00:18 Should i use a tab control or something else for this? Dec 24 15:03:05 I tried just substituting the ListView for a ScrollView, but that resulted in only the first option of the ListView being visible for some reason. Dec 24 15:05:24 oh. sorry, that was the result of trying to *surround* the LinearLayout with a ScrollView. trying to just substitute them made the program crash. Dec 24 15:07:20 alexander__b a listview has a scroll in it Dec 24 15:07:37 so what your wanting is a scroll inside of a scroll ? Dec 24 15:07:51 StingRay_: yes, I know. but I want to have a vertical scroll for the LinearLayout, so that the Spinner isn't just anchored on top. Dec 24 15:08:57 but the spinner needs to scroll too ? Dec 24 15:09:20 StingRay_: I want to avoid the Spinner being anchored on top. when you scroll I want to move everything up/down, including the Spinner. Dec 24 15:09:40 StingRay_: right now, the Spinner is anchored on top. so when you scroll down in the ListView, the Spinner remains in place. Dec 24 15:12:38 just a default spinner ? Dec 24 15:12:58 StingRay_: yes. do you want me to pastebin the code? it is rather short. Dec 24 15:13:34 does anbody here know of a lib that can convert mod files into a supported file type Dec 24 15:13:37 like mp3 Dec 24 15:13:53 alexander__b thought about adding spinner to listView[0] ? Dec 24 15:14:48 StingRay_: no. but that sounds like a great solution. Dec 24 15:19:14 StingRay_: I'm reading through the reference on ListView -- what would be the appropriate procedure to add a Spinner? I only see addFooterView and addHeaderView. the other stuff in the ListView is added with setAdapter. Dec 24 15:19:41 StingRay_: can I just reach [0] like with a C array? Dec 24 15:20:06 well never really done it tbh, I would suspect addHeaderView just takes a view ? and is always present even on-scrolling ? Dec 24 15:20:20 StingRay_: well I want it to *not* be present. Dec 24 15:20:37 StingRay_: that's the point, I want the Spinner to be pushed up when scrolling down the list. Dec 24 15:20:45 I would personally use the adapter to generate/load the view I wanted Dec 24 15:21:24 StingRay_: I'm sorry, I'm too much of a newbie to be able to reflect on that. thank you for your input though. guess I have some reading to do. Dec 24 15:21:45 getView() returns inflated , populated view Dec 24 15:21:55 you can do what you want in that method Dec 24 15:22:14 not sure how it would affect the adapters recycling ability though Dec 24 15:27:38 hey, for some reason even though my notification audio is set to low, my notifications play so loud there is clipping on the audio. any idea why this could happen? Dec 24 15:38:11 GuySoft: maybe it's just the clip? Dec 24 15:38:24 GuySoft: as in the file Dec 24 15:39:24 james-ubc, when I play it from the "settings" its nice and on the correct volume. it used to be fine before Dec 24 15:46:29 huh Dec 24 15:51:49 james-ubc, ill say it again: when i test it in settings it plays fine. And its not a bad file, its a default one that is supplied by samsung Dec 24 15:52:43 samsung = twisted black magic Dec 24 15:53:07 evil things go on inside them ;) Dec 24 15:55:31 StingRay_, but they are not that twisted to put distorted audio files Dec 24 15:55:51 indeed no Dec 24 15:56:09 but they are in terms of build settings and flags, who knows what else Dec 24 15:56:39 StingRay_, its a stock rom, i think it might have happened because of the custom kernel .. thats the only unusual thing there Dec 24 15:57:07 very poss Dec 24 15:59:07 is there a way to probe it? Dec 24 16:00:12 lsmod ? Dec 24 16:00:33 should show you "inserted" Dec 24 16:00:50 maybe not all though Dec 24 16:01:08 sys directory should have the list of used Dec 24 16:03:48 StingRay_, what am i looking for? so i will see an snd module - then what? Dec 24 16:04:18 i dont know what your looking for Dec 24 16:04:29 you just asked for a way to see modules and drivers Dec 24 16:04:33 used by kernel Dec 24 17:27:42 hello Dec 24 17:30:58 lo Dec 24 17:51:17 what's the most common way to make a listview's scroll remember where it was? i.e. if you select an item to bring up a new screen, and hit back, what's the de facto way of making sure it doesn't reset the scroll? Dec 24 17:51:38 store the item tapped Dec 24 18:16:56 is there a channel specific for IntelliJ? Dec 24 18:17:03 I tried #intellij and #Idea, nothing Dec 24 18:17:39 no idea, dont use it Dec 24 18:17:43 never searched Dec 24 18:56:26 Hey all, could anyone please give me a great present and hook me up with a dribbble invite? Dec 24 19:07:30 method to disable scrollView ? Dec 24 19:07:39 cant seem to see it for looking Dec 24 19:08:04 ah..setScrollContainer Dec 24 19:08:18 maybe lol Dec 24 19:08:40 oh god Dec 24 19:08:56 nope...not setScrollContainer Dec 24 19:09:07 dammit Dec 24 19:14:31 don't use a ScrollView? Dec 24 19:24:09 hmm, i have sdk 21 - but when i go to the sdk manager it says an update is available: 21.0 … wut is going on Dec 24 19:35:56 So everything in http://grepcode.com/file/repository.grepcode.com/java/ext/com.google.android/android/4.1.1_r1/com/android/internal/telephony/ITelephony.java#ITelephony is accessable using reflect method or.... adding the aidl ? Dec 24 19:38:48 intellij 12.0.1 is out Dec 24 19:38:57 g00s, eh, you're like a week late Dec 24 19:39:15 i checked 2 days ago and it was 12.0 :/ Dec 24 19:39:21 :( Dec 24 19:41:29 droidbuster, if you use them you're more than likely to end up with some security or whatever exceptions Dec 24 19:41:36 I tried some 1.5 years ago ;) Dec 24 19:41:48 can't remember the details Dec 24 19:42:15 Well looking on the grepcode you can access a whole slew of commands like turning data etc off Dec 24 19:42:27 not just pickup hangup silence Dec 24 19:42:46 you can access but it won't let you use them Dec 24 19:42:55 if they're not meant to be used :) Dec 24 19:43:39 lol ya i did somethings awhile back shutting off the data and i had to reboot my phone eachtime Dec 24 19:43:55 g00s, they didn't fix the one bug that most annoys me though Dec 24 19:44:08 :( Dec 24 19:44:14 g00s, types in debugger are the same colour as the background when using darcula Dec 24 19:44:16 thats the story of my life with android :D Dec 24 19:44:27 lol Dec 24 19:44:49 there's also http://eclipser.xmms2.org/darcula.png Dec 24 19:55:34 Another question I never knew this answer with DDMS in eclipse you can send the Android VM texts and calls.... however if you have a test device are you able to do the same ? Dec 24 20:00:00 iirc no Dec 24 20:01:03 well that blows to not be able to test on live devices i mean it allows you to mock gps locations and such. None the less Thank you Zharf Dec 24 20:03:20 droidbuster, don't take my word for it though, I'm not 100% sure of anything, ever ;) Dec 24 20:04:20 Zharf: yes i mean i have many android devices and well none of them let me use the DDMS control features for sending call intents to the phone. I guess that API is not written into the Dev suite Dec 24 20:04:24 ok i will bbl Dec 24 20:09:54 if I have a tabgroup, how can I make it so that one of the tabs behaves like a regular button. That is, if I have three tabs, I'd like to make it so the left-most one just dispatches an event without actually switching views. I have been searching for some means of preventing the default action once the event is received. Dec 24 20:12:44 windsurf_: I suppose you could subclass it and override selectively. I'd discourage making standard UI elements behave weirdly though Dec 24 20:16:23 I'm writing an app that uses the share feature. I want it to operate mostly behind the scenes, so I guess the GUI should either not pop up or should pop up and then close itself. Dec 24 20:19:22 Specifically, I want to close the app such that the user goes back to their previous app, as in when you're browsing and you share a URL, select gmail, send the gmail and then gmail closes and you're back in your browser. Activity.finish()? Dec 24 20:24:43 Yup, looks like that does the trick. Dec 24 20:30:00 dragorn: i have a design that treats one tab as a button that slides the tab view over to reveal a left menu Dec 24 20:30:10 dragorn: so that's what I'm ultimately trying to acheive Dec 24 20:30:24 achieve* Dec 24 20:42:01 I think I'll end up making my own custom tab view as just a horizontal row of graphical buttons. for graphical buttons am I better off using button components or image components? Dec 24 20:43:07 Is there a page or tutorial somewhere that gives the nomenclature for the android UI? E.g. if you swipe down from the top, it shows you a bunch of messages. What are those messages called, and what's that whole sub-UI of messages called? And at the top of the android screen is a set of little icons, analogous to the windows taskbar/system tray... what's the right term for that? Dec 24 20:44:32 windsurf_: there are mechanisms for doing that already (using the actionbar). I mean, do whatever, but changing UI stuff can often lead to confused users (or just annoyed) Dec 24 20:44:47 windsurf_: googles recommendation for sidebar menus is using the actionbar app icon Dec 24 20:44:54 dragorn: looking for recommendations. ok Dec 24 20:45:50 windsurf_: http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/ui_guidelines/index.html Dec 24 20:45:54 windsurf_: is the official google stuff Dec 24 20:46:23 thank you Dec 24 20:46:28 windsurf_: http://www.androiduipatterns.com/2012/06/emerging-ui-pattern-side-navigation.html in specific, and the blog in general, is really useful too Dec 24 20:46:47 windsurf_: annoyingly google says "use this mechanism for a side menu" then provides no api to generate the side menu Dec 24 20:47:17 windsurf_: i've had very good luck with https://github.com/SimonVT/android-menudrawer however Dec 24 20:47:17 another general question: if I want a graphical button that has a press state and a disabled state (so, a button that is purely made up of 3 pngs - one for each state), which control should I use or do I roll my own image swapper? Dec 24 20:47:32 ok thanks dragorn re: side menu Dec 24 21:00:57 hi Dec 24 21:01:20 i get this error with adb Dec 24 21:01:24 * daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 * Dec 24 21:01:24 cannot bind 'tcp:5037' Dec 24 21:01:24 ADB server didn't ACK Dec 24 21:01:24 * failed to start daemon * Dec 24 21:01:24 error: cannot connect to daemon Dec 24 21:02:23 restart the adb server Dec 24 21:04:53 same problem Dec 24 21:26:12 I'm trying to take a picture with the Camera API, but I want to do it without using a surface. Is this possible? Dec 24 21:27:32 Hi everybody. Merry Christmas! Dec 24 21:27:49 code like this.. http://www.mail-archive.com/android-developers@googlegroups.com/msg143831.html shows the Camera displaying to a surface before taking the picture. Dec 24 21:28:05 ernie`: Merry Eve. Dec 24 21:28:40 A great day to sit back and ponder the crazy traditions that shape our culture. Dec 24 21:28:53 I was wondering if anybody knew how to help me. I have an activity which holds two tabs with fragments.. i have an update button in the action bar and want to update a spinner in the fragment, but I am unsure of how Dec 24 21:28:58 Jonathan_Eyre, indeed Dec 24 21:28:59 hi Dec 24 21:29:05 cannot bind 'tcp:5037' Dec 24 21:29:12 how do i fix this with adb Dec 24 21:37:08 why not \r\n Dec 24 21:41:21 hi Dec 24 21:41:24 cannot bind 'tcp:5037' Dec 24 21:41:26 how do i fix this with adb Dec 24 21:55:05 hello, what is the most efficient way to develop a somewhat 3d game Dec 24 21:55:27 It will be an isotropic view like Diablo 3. Dec 24 21:56:36 Would i use the canvas class. Or is there something lower level i can tap into Dec 24 22:13:02 parco : you mean "isometric", not "isotropic" Dec 24 22:13:15 and you should look into OpenGL Dec 24 22:23:24 Right Dec 24 22:24:14 Ok thnx Dec 24 22:25:08 what Dec 24 22:25:08 's Dec 24 22:25:32 what's the area called under the status bar – I've got a grey stripe with the title of my app in it. I want to remove that Dec 24 22:26:30 I keep getting this very strange error about `adb` specifically, whenever I launch any project or want to create any new project, I get "java.io.IOException: error=2, No such file or directory" referring to the location of emulator in one instance and the location of adb in another instance Dec 24 22:27:00 while both paths are THERE and I can tab them out on Bash, but over there I get that there is no such file or directory (While in fact I am inside that directory looking at the file with the correct permissions)! Dec 24 22:27:02 windsurf_ : titlebar Dec 24 22:27:12 Pfhoenix: thx Dec 24 22:27:14 there is this solution for Ubuntu, but I am on ArchLinux... http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/index.html#troubleshooting Dec 24 22:29:10 then the solution is easy, no ? Dec 24 22:30:00 how do i fix this with adb Dec 24 22:30:03 cannot bind 'tcp:5037' Dec 24 22:32:12 hi Dec 24 22:32:33 hi varjag, welcome Dec 24 22:33:06 what is the right way to manage cursor for ui thread if i want it to work with api both before and after honeycomb? Dec 24 22:33:28 (also, merry xmas) Dec 24 22:37:05 i have some devices with api 8, when CursorLoader wasn't yet introduced Dec 24 22:37:22 CursorLoader is in the support library Dec 24 22:37:43 hm Dec 24 22:41:43 i managed to avoid support libs so far, my understanding is that the support lib calls are being used regardless whether native methods are available Dec 24 22:41:54 is that much of a problem with forward-compatibility in practice?= Dec 24 22:42:08 cause otherwise it seems to be easiest way Dec 24 22:43:50 No, it's not an issue Dec 24 22:44:18 ok, thanks! Dec 24 22:58:44 Hello everyone, I have a little bit of a problem; My phone's screen died on me, but I am using adb shell and have that all working. Dec 24 22:58:53 I'm wondering if there is a way I can make my phone use the emulator screen? Dec 24 22:58:58 or is there a way to backup my texts through adb shell? Dec 24 23:00:25 the texts are a simple DB, but now sure where off hand Dec 24 23:00:35 hmm Dec 24 23:10:53 is there anyway to make my phone use the emulator? Dec 24 23:18:23 DarkGhost`: I wouldn;t have thought so Dec 24 23:18:37 as the emulator is just that, an emulator, NOT a screen Dec 24 23:18:48 :( my phone died Dec 24 23:18:55 I saw Dec 24 23:19:08 lol Dec 24 23:19:11 i don't nkow what to do Dec 24 23:19:15 and I can't do much because its not rooted Dec 24 23:19:19 so adb is giving me permission errors Dec 24 23:19:52 what do you want to do with it? Dec 24 23:20:16 pull recent text messages Dec 24 23:20:56 is it set up to allow developer access? Dec 24 23:21:09 idk its a semi new phone so I'm not sure I ever did that Dec 24 23:21:14 DarkGhost`: http://denniskubes.com/2012/09/25/read-android-data-folder-without-rooting/ Dec 24 23:21:25 oh, and this is why I run a periodic SMS backup :) Dec 24 23:21:45 okay varjag! Dec 24 23:21:46 there may also be an intent to trigger the built in SMS backup Dec 24 23:21:47 thnak you./ Dec 24 23:21:51 let me try that Dec 24 23:23:00 if i do get screen to work temp what would best option be? Dec 24 23:23:11 turn on dev access>? Dec 24 23:23:16 the htc sms app has a backup/export feature Dec 24 23:23:19 or SMs backup Dec 24 23:23:36 export what you want then dump it :) Dec 25 00:01:38 Anyone know why I might get a NoClassDefFoundError with R.xml? Dec 25 00:29:46 do you have to be root to copy files from assets to /sdcard/ and /data/ Dec 25 00:30:13 well i know sdcard should work, but what bout the other place? Dec 25 00:31:32 is there a way to update the style of a textview programatically-- ie on button press change the font, setMaskFilter, antialias etc? I set it up to do so, but when the style isnt defined by its own class (extends textview) and all it doesnt seme to work Dec 25 00:31:46 the text never gets style at all Dec 25 00:43:43 holy fuck i literally get more help in the 50 person #iphone-dev than in this piece of shit channel Dec 25 00:44:07 its xmas day dude LOL Dec 25 00:44:17 i wasnt expecting an answer Dec 25 00:44:28 over the last 3-4 days Dec 25 00:44:38 i've asked about a dozen questions Dec 25 00:44:45 and not once have i got an answer Dec 25 00:44:55 this channel is literally useless Dec 25 00:45:22 it isnt Dec 25 00:45:26 i always get answers here Dec 25 00:46:41 in fact I have literally never seen someone get an answer Dec 25 00:47:01 and i probably have around 75% uptime in the last few days Dec 25 00:47:07 lol funny guy Dec 25 00:47:07 in group dynamics, its called the evaporative cooling effect. that is all Dec 25 00:47:50 g00s, in jellybean getexternalstoragedirectory( returns some emulated/0 path instead Dec 25 00:48:12 yeah, i'm not sure. i use froyo Dec 25 00:48:33 damn Dec 25 00:48:36 this is buggin me Dec 25 00:49:22 i tried .getExternalStorageDirectory().getAbsolutePath() too Dec 25 00:50:34 what code are you trying to use, brx_ ? Dec 25 00:50:54 File babyvidsfolder = new File(Environment Dec 25 00:50:54 .getExternalStorageDirectory().getAbsolutePath() Dec 25 00:50:54 + "/babyvidsfolder"); Dec 25 00:51:22 and you have permission to write to external storage, I assume? Dec 25 00:51:26 yes Dec 25 00:52:05 what error are you getting, if any? Dec 25 00:52:32 12-25 00:34:02.354: W/System.err(6946): java.lang.RuntimeException: java.io.FileNotFoundException: /storage/emulated/0/babyvidsfolder/full/dailytemp.mp4: open failed: ENOENT (No such file or directory) Dec 25 00:52:42 this is 4.2 right? Dec 25 00:52:46 yes Dec 25 00:52:54 ok. have you ensured that the parent directories exist? Dec 25 00:52:58 I heard there were some storage changes Dec 25 00:53:01 let me see Dec 25 00:53:19 seeing a lot of updates with storage fixes for 4.2 compatibility Dec 25 00:53:52 i do if (!babyvidsfolder.exists()) to create the folder and it wont reate it Dec 25 00:54:02 i get that error Dec 25 00:54:22 I mean the /full/ directory Dec 25 00:54:33 since you didn't mention that in the code before Dec 25 00:54:47 its ok i use a nested if staement with the previous one to create both files Dec 25 00:54:53 babyvidsfolder? o.o Dec 25 00:54:59 so how's android? Dec 25 00:55:03 i have even created the files and then trying copying some assets to the full directory, same error Dec 25 00:55:07 5 years Dec 25 00:55:09 i'm making the jump from iOS Dec 25 00:55:26 oh, sorry, my brain added the word "old" in there Dec 25 00:55:39 Android is cool. but I'm in #android-dev, and very biased Dec 25 00:56:00 haha Dec 25 00:56:03 have you tried iOS leslie? Dec 25 00:56:14 a little bit, yeah. Dec 25 00:56:24 i'm just looking for a compelling reason to motivate myself. I'm hopping in anticipation of google glass so far Dec 25 00:56:26 I also do both iOS and Android Dec 25 00:56:36 iOS 5 was a pain, but the new auto layout stuff in iOS 6 is nice Dec 25 00:56:37 both have their strengths and weaknesses, imo Dec 25 00:56:38 i take it you prefer android more maruits? Dec 25 00:56:47 kind of depends Dec 25 00:57:07 iOS is generally quicker if you're prototyping a quick app Dec 25 00:57:21 since you don't have to worry about fifteen million devices Dec 25 00:57:31 hey I know this is #android-dev Dec 25 00:57:32 but... Dec 25 00:57:33 theres no fun in that :D Dec 25 00:57:43 but Android API's generally are better thought out Dec 25 00:57:45 is there a way to get podcast to show up on your ipad? Dec 25 00:57:53 and iOS multitasking is completely braindead Dec 25 00:58:00 Maurits_: haha that's why i didn't go with android initially Dec 25 00:58:14 but i think that problem is fading Dec 25 00:58:14 as long as you don't expect pixel-precise lay outing, mawhtin, you'll be fine. Dec 25 00:58:22 "Our APIs may suck, but we look cool" - Apple Dec 25 00:58:22 Android layouts are more inherently resizable Dec 25 00:58:28 lol Dec 25 00:58:58 I like the fact that the layouts are all the same on ipad Dec 25 00:58:59 xcode is also a disaster Dec 25 00:59:02 to me that reduces confusion Dec 25 00:59:09 eclipse is only marginally better, but still Dec 25 00:59:12 Maurits_: what are you developing in? Dec 25 00:59:13 though personally I would rather customize my own displays Dec 25 00:59:18 is there a specific one for android or use what you like Dec 25 00:59:21 mawhtin: xcode and eclipse Dec 25 00:59:35 for iOS and Android Dec 25 00:59:55 respectively right? unless there's some secret thing about Xcode i didn't know haha Dec 25 01:00:06 but in general I feel Android gives you more power and more ways to shoot yourself in the foot Dec 25 01:00:13 ^ Dec 25 01:00:16 plus you don't have to use Obj-C with Android, which is nice Dec 25 01:00:24 since it makes me want to gouge out my own eyeballs Dec 25 01:00:28 I don't mind Obj C that much Dec 25 01:00:30 haha i love obj-c Dec 25 01:00:40 at least, with ARC it's decent enough Dec 25 01:00:50 anyhow, glad to be joining the crowd here :) Dec 25 01:00:54 merry xmas eve! Dec 25 01:01:00 merry xmas Dec 25 01:01:02 it's Christmas here now Dec 25 01:01:09 well, 1am. still counts Dec 25 01:01:10 ohh where's "here" Dec 25 01:01:17 uk Dec 25 01:01:23 nice, merry xmas Dec 25 01:01:27 you too :) Dec 25 01:01:43 anyway, most important thing to remember Dec 25 01:01:47 Dr Who Christmas Special later today Dec 25 01:01:50 Activity!=UIViewController ;) Dec 25 01:02:01 Fragment==UIViewController, kind of ;) Dec 25 01:02:10 anyone know if i need to be rooted in order to copy a binary from assets to /data// in JB ? Dec 25 01:02:38 brx_: depends on whether you're doing it from app Dec 25 01:02:39 haha, thanks Maurits_ Dec 25 01:02:50 i'll keep that in mind Dec 25 01:03:03 doing what Maurits_ ? Dec 25 01:03:06 brx_: apps generally can't write in eachother's data folders Dec 25 01:03:10 if that's what you mean Dec 25 01:03:27 but an app can of course write in its own data folder Dec 25 01:03:33 without root ye? Dec 25 01:03:40 yes Dec 25 01:03:42 this worked in gingerbread with the same code Dec 25 01:04:00 haven't checked out my stuff on 4.2 yet Dec 25 01:04:06 but I'm kind of doing the same thing Dec 25 01:04:39 still seems to work Dec 25 01:04:57 how can i check if the file got copied to its data directory, im not rooted, so termianl wont let me Dec 25 01:05:27 adb shell wouldnt let me either Dec 25 01:05:36 "permission denied" Dec 25 01:05:59 you could try on a 4.2 emulator instance Dec 25 01:06:08 where you always have root Dec 25 01:06:23 they take ages to load on this piece of crap laptop Dec 25 01:06:38 suppose ill figure out a way to do it programatically Dec 25 01:06:38 make sure you use the x86 atom image Dec 25 01:06:44 and enable GPU acceleration Dec 25 01:06:50 ok ill do emulator Dec 25 01:07:17 at least, seems likely writing your own in-app file explorer is more costly in terms of time Dec 25 01:08:19 with this particular problem whats happening is, im putting the binary in the data directory and then using exec().getRuntime(), but i get error Null Working Environment Dec 25 01:08:43 missions Dec 25 01:10:18 I dunno, but my app is accessing its internal storage dir just fine on 4.2 Dec 25 01:10:53 what device you got? Dec 25 01:11:03 i think i should just root the device, how long will it take? Dec 25 01:11:11 its nexus 7 Dec 25 01:11:40 galaxy nexus, 4.2.1 Dec 25 01:11:52 the original one, not the nexus 4 Dec 25 01:12:10 if i try to root this is it risky at all in the slightest? Dec 25 01:12:13 nexus 7 is easy to root, but requires a full storage wipe to do so Dec 25 01:12:21 got a link? Dec 25 01:12:26 ehhm Dec 25 01:12:29 Would anyone mind having a look at my manifest file (especially lines 40=>51) and let me know if my search is defined properly? Dec 25 01:13:02 this, probably: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809195 Dec 25 01:13:05 but YMMV Dec 25 01:13:13 as always when linking to XDA ;) Dec 25 01:13:23 hey Maurits_ building for android in eclipse on a mac works yeah? Dec 25 01:13:51 it works, some people swear by intellij though Dec 25 01:14:17 Eclipse is alright imo, but it's not very fast or slick Dec 25 01:14:21 intelliJ++ Dec 25 01:14:30 lol why are you still using eclipse then!??! Dec 25 01:14:41 cheers Maurits_ Dec 25 01:15:05 I'm used to it Dec 25 01:15:08 mostly Dec 25 01:15:12 all right i'll try that out Dec 25 01:15:21 looks cooler too hehe Dec 25 01:15:22 its problems aren't big enough to motivate me to learn a new IDE Dec 25 01:15:25 eclipse really needs a facelift Dec 25 01:15:35 and it's the default ADK target Dec 25 01:15:50 imo google should really start thinking about a self-hosting IDE for Android development Dec 25 01:16:02 ^ +1 Dec 25 01:16:17 i would like to be able to dev on this nexus, wouldnt have to lug my laptop about Dec 25 01:16:37 well Dec 25 01:16:39 i need an app idea Dec 25 01:16:57 that solves 50% of my problems there Dec 25 01:16:58 haha Dec 25 01:17:03 monkey tennis Dec 25 01:18:37 haha no games Dec 25 01:18:47 no knowledge on openGL Dec 25 01:19:10 monkey tennis is NEVER a game .... Dec 25 01:20:28 it was an alan partridge quote Dec 25 01:20:55 my bliss ignorance Dec 25 01:20:58 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_tennis :P Dec 25 01:21:50 alan partridge :3 Dec 25 01:27:17 is there a way to create a "background" service such that the service is not tied to an activity? Dec 25 01:27:25 all the examples I see use bindService(...); Dec 25 01:27:31 which creates a bound service Dec 25 01:27:46 sleepster: startService() :P Dec 25 01:27:52 or, I see examples that use startService, but I need to use IPC to communicate it and therefore Dec 25 01:28:00 use bindService to get a binder Dec 25 01:28:05 but that still binds my activity to it Dec 25 01:28:06 right? Dec 25 01:29:58 you can combine the 2 Dec 25 01:30:10 yep, but that doesn't matter right? Dec 25 01:30:19 g00s, oh I see. shoudl I start the service first? or bind to it? Dec 25 01:30:24 start it Dec 25 01:30:35 you can have onBind start it Dec 25 01:31:15 this is what I do now: ComponentName name = startService(mUnboundServiceIntent); boolean ret = bindService(mUnboundServiceIntent, mConnection, 0); Dec 25 01:31:17 sleepster: Dec 25 01:31:20 "When the last client unbinds from the service, the system destroys the service (unless the service was also started by startService())." Dec 25 01:31:21 its good to experiment and see for yourself how these lifecycles can overlap Dec 25 01:31:33 ah I see Dec 25 01:31:35 thanks Maurits_ Dec 25 01:31:42 thanks g00s Dec 25 01:31:49 I guess I didn't read that part Dec 25 01:32:08 I want to create a bound service and an unbounded service and I want them to communciate via AIDL Dec 25 01:32:19 from the bound service, I create the unbounded service Dec 25 01:32:34 then from the unbound service, I want to create a native linux service Dec 25 01:36:11 seems overly complex, and I'm not sure whether you can fork() and execve() from a process Dec 25 01:36:39 from an android process, I mean Dec 25 01:37:00 yeah, well this is just a learning experience Dec 25 01:37:12 I am just creating an IPC binder at all possible areas of the OS Dec 25 01:37:17 just to learn Dec 25 01:37:33 so I have an IPC from app -> bound service -> unbound service -> native unbound service and then back Dec 25 01:38:45 to get android to load a native service, do I need to wrap it around a Java service? Dec 25 01:38:50 using JNI Dec 25 02:07:19 Hey, I'm trying to use a searchable activity to do a geocode search Dec 25 02:08:13 If the geocode works it returns a sorted list, how should I get a cursor for this list so i can call setListAdapter? Dec 25 02:08:25 or am I doing this all wrong? Dec 25 02:11:10 oh, I'm not trying ot create a cursor, I'm trying to create a ListAdapter Dec 25 02:20:23 any ideas? Dec 25 02:21:54 Ideas on what? How to populate a ListAdapter? Dec 25 02:22:12 capella, from a list, yes Dec 25 02:24:48 mListAdapter = new ArrayAdapter (context, R.layout.folderpickerlist, temp); ??? Dec 25 02:24:50 where temp is a List ??? Dec 25 02:25:31 capella: that's a start Dec 25 02:25:34 thanks Dec 25 02:26:04 sure Dec 25 02:28:38 the geocoder returns a list of Addresses, so I'll need to get the address line out of them Dec 25 02:32:24 Extend the ArrayAdapter class or loop through manually Dec 25 02:37:50 yeah, Extending ArrayAdapter seems like the right idea Dec 25 02:46:49 any reason invoking setShadowLayer() or adding shadow attributes to the xml of a textView makes it completely invisible Dec 25 02:51:51 hi all - need some help. bought tf700 was on ics .30 out of box. rooted and unlocked. upgraded to jb. flashed cwm jb touch thru fastboot. made backup. went with stable cm-10.0.0-tf700t and gapps jb 20121011. now sitting with clean cyanogenmod on system. how do i restore my apps and things? Dec 25 02:52:05 wrong channel Dec 25 02:52:26 android-root Dec 25 02:52:41 doh sorry Dec 25 02:53:32 wow you got all that done and wonders how to do a restore? :P Dec 25 02:54:05 haha couldn't find anything that told me what to do to get my stuff back Dec 25 02:54:06 haha **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Dec 25 02:59:58 2012