**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 26 02:59:59 2012 Dec 26 03:10:27 I have a ListView, I do a getItemAtPosition() which returns an Object, but I have my Person object there. How would I use the getName() that my Person has? Dec 26 03:11:01 I promise to go to sleep after this Dec 26 03:12:22 cast it to person then Dec 26 03:15:25 Ah, that's it. Thank you! :) Dec 26 03:44:45 on mediarecorder class I dont see a method to get raw video/audio, do I have to choose a compression/container format? Dec 26 03:53:21 Hm. Dec 26 03:53:39 I just pushed my apk to my phone and the app shows up in Settings/Apps but not in the apps grid. Dec 26 03:54:40 (or whatever you call the listing of app icons that you get to by going to the home screen and pressing the 6-little-squares-in-a-circle icon). Dec 26 03:55:41 puff, did you modify something in the manifest file? Dec 26 04:25:26 Maziz, hello Dec 26 04:26:54 so aparently opengl on android you should be able to share resources between contexts ... on egl capabel devices, but it doesn't work Dec 26 04:27:09 hi k0nichiwa Dec 26 04:27:14 remember opengl trouble i had Dec 26 04:27:16 just discoverd that, what a pain, now i have to refactor my code not to bgnd load textures on android Dec 26 04:27:17 last mondy Dec 26 04:27:28 the 7 inch screen ? Dec 26 04:27:33 about why texture can be loaded on 7 inch screen Dec 26 04:27:34 yeah Dec 26 04:27:39 solve it Dec 26 04:27:43 what was the problem ? Dec 26 04:28:17 it turns out, one of the main requirement for texture to be loaded on opengl is the dimensions must be in power of 2 Dec 26 04:28:27 theres calculation involve Dec 26 04:28:32 ladies Dec 26 04:28:37 for gl es 1.0 i think Dec 26 04:28:43 yeah Dec 26 04:28:46 maziz that's not required in gl es 2 i dont think Dec 26 04:28:50 and the calculation produce wrong number on 7 inch Dec 26 04:28:57 altho its good if you can, some may pad to power of 2 i think Dec 26 04:29:09 but the app is running on opengl es 1.0 Dec 26 04:29:28 u know there is a gl2jni sample app Dec 26 04:29:34 so yeah. calculation Dec 26 04:29:36 uhuh Dec 26 04:29:41 that shows how to get the glsurfaceview to give you a gl es 2 context Dec 26 04:29:44 you don't have to use JNI Dec 26 04:29:48 i mean ndk Dec 26 04:30:05 u can use the gl2jni examle, grab their java class to get a gl es 2 context Dec 26 04:30:14 but you don't have to use NDK to od that, all java Dec 26 04:30:25 sounds complicated lol Dec 26 04:30:26 XD Dec 26 04:30:29 no not really Dec 26 04:30:45 basically u just derive fromt heir gl2jni instead of glsurfaceview Dec 26 04:30:50 oh Dec 26 04:30:51 i see Dec 26 04:30:53 however the smaple is in the NDK Dec 26 04:30:59 i see i see Dec 26 04:31:04 you'd have to grab that class .. jsut an idea Dec 26 04:31:12 mabye not the bets soln for you but you can consider it Dec 26 04:31:29 thanks. one of the suggestion. Dec 26 04:31:43 hard bugger, since using NPOT doesn't show anything on android logcat Dec 26 04:32:00 t Dec 26 04:32:10 Maziz, i'll post that class for u, hold on Dec 26 04:32:17 already fix it Dec 26 04:32:24 now ok already but for learning purpose ill have a look Dec 26 04:32:51 I just pushed my apk to my phone and the app shows up in Settings/Apps but not in the apps grid. (or whatever you call the listing of app icons that you get to by going to the home screen and pressing the 6-little-squares-in-a-circle icon). Dec 26 04:33:07 Maziz, http://pastebin.com/sg90cQ9w Dec 26 04:33:21 all u have to do is remove the parts that set their renderer which calls their native stuff Dec 26 04:33:48 and use it like it's a glsurfaceview ... maybe needs some more chagnes, but basically it should work Dec 26 04:34:08 i see thanks. Dec 26 04:34:34 if u use gl es 2 with java not sure how yo'd set the shaders tho Dec 26 04:35:01 I had a simple little app, all it did was catch a share intent and do an HTTP post. I wanted to add some settings to use in the post, so I followed a tutorial to create a settings layout, menu, activity etc, and added it. Built fine, installed it, it pops up when I do the share but now ti doesn't do the post, and it doesn't appear in the apps listing so I can't try to run it directly and see if the settings menu works. Dec 26 04:36:47 Whoops, the post actually does work. Dec 26 04:37:13 Do I have to do something in the manifest to get it to show up as an invocable icon? Dec 26 04:37:23 Invocalbe? Invokable? Dec 26 04:48:48 I was looking the other day for a 'share to clipboard' - too many things don't have it Dec 26 04:52:35 Is this chan specific to app building only? what about building from android from source? Dec 26 04:53:26 what do you mean? Dec 26 04:53:51 mrsudoer: I think he means building the android OS itself, not an app. Dec 26 04:54:16 mrsudoer: I didn't modify anything in my manifest, should I have? Dec 26 04:54:21 Ohhh, fwiw I think some of the android ROM devs are in here too Dec 26 04:54:37 I vaguely recall seeing people directed to some other channel, in the past. Dec 26 04:54:49 puff, well I was working on an app last night and changed something in the manifest file which caused the problem you mentioned. Dec 26 04:55:42 mrsudoer: My manifest only had one entry, for the share intent. I just added another one, for the UserSettingsActivity. Still not showing up in the apps list Dec 26 04:55:49 mrsudoer: Btw, do you know the proper term for the apps list? Dec 26 04:56:06 puff, app drawer? Dec 26 04:56:26 drewx2: Ah, yeah... the cahnnel topic says Root/custom ROMs, head to #android-root. Not sure that's what you need, but the folks over there might know where you need to go. Dec 26 04:56:33 puff, how about you share your manifest file with me? Dec 26 04:56:36 mrsudoer: Ah, is that what it's called? Dec 26 04:56:40 I think so Dec 26 04:56:59 I am in #android-root, and someone told me to come here :) Dec 26 05:01:52 puff, AndroidManifest or something like that lol Dec 26 05:01:59 when i d File.mkdir() on jellybean it creates folder in /storage/emulated/legacy instead of /storage/sdcard0 Dec 26 05:02:00 it's in the root directory of your project Dec 26 05:04:23 mrsudoer: Hang on sec, I'll upload it. Dec 26 05:06:27 mrsudoer: Just pm'd you the link. Dec 26 05:07:41 mrsudoer: Or use http://pastebin.com/vzQL4wfk Dec 26 05:10:09 mrsudoer: inside the intent filter? Dec 26 05:10:39 puff, yes Dec 26 05:11:17 no apparent difference. Dec 26 05:11:23 hmm Dec 26 05:11:24 Still doesn't show up in the app drawer. Dec 26 05:12:07 puff, Dec 26 05:12:11 change android.intent.action.SEND to android.intent.action.MAIN Dec 26 05:12:23 if that doesn't work, i don't know :/ Dec 26 05:12:36 Wouldn't putting it inside the intent filter mean it would invoke the Overshare activity instead of the UserSettingsActivity activity? Dec 26 05:13:02 Perhaps I should set up a second intent filter for the UserSettingsActivity. Dec 26 05:14:01 Maybe Dec 26 05:14:10 I'm having brain farts right now Dec 26 05:14:19 maybe i'll think straighter later :p Dec 26 05:14:55 Yeah, might be a good thing for me to try, too :-). Dec 26 05:14:59 Thanks for the help though. Dec 26 05:15:15 i didn't do anything, but np :) Dec 26 05:15:43 Yay, that fixed it! Dec 26 05:15:53 Aww, you helped, you got me to think about the problem differntly :-) Dec 26 05:16:02 I put an intent filter in the UserSEttings activtiy. Dec 26 05:16:07 Ahh Dec 26 05:16:09 that makes sense Dec 26 05:16:10 :) Dec 26 05:16:36 Good night! Dec 26 05:29:39 EXTRA_CC field doesn't work with Gmail 4.2.1? Dec 26 05:32:43 has anyone tried INTENT.EXTRA_CC field in android? Dec 26 05:32:54 with new gmail 4.2.1 it doesn't seem to work. Neither does EXTRA_BCC Dec 26 05:36:17 Anyone know what I would use to have an app auto-refresh a few JSON streams in real/as a close to instant time over a cellular network? Dec 26 06:03:19 photoshop : pixelmator :: illustrator : ? Dec 26 07:53:55 hi guys Dec 26 07:53:58 i need help Dec 26 07:54:02 I have problems with the download manager... I Dec 26 07:54:02 keep getting messages like this: Failed to fetch URL http://dl-ssl.google.com/an Dec 26 07:54:02 droid/repository/addons_list-2.xml, reason: Connection to http://dl-ssl.google.c Dec 26 07:54:02 om refused... I don't have a proxy, trying http in stead of https doesn't help and I have Sun JRE 1.6 installed. wgetting the file works fine.... Please help Dec 26 07:54:12 i lost my efs folder Dec 26 07:54:13 yikes, split lines Dec 26 07:54:35 is there anybody to help about recovering efs? Dec 26 07:55:09 my imei is lost i can't use device as a phone Dec 26 08:57:46 hmm; how does wunderlist stay in business? everything seems free Dec 26 09:01:45 is anyone of you almost 400 people awake? Dec 26 09:02:36 * capella shakes hist fist !! Damn you loch ness monster Dec 26 09:03:07 heh - tabs confuse me ... :) Dec 26 09:04:15 It seems besides some Chinese forum posters, I'm the only one to get Connection refused on the SDK servers... :( Dec 26 09:05:29 What are you trying to do? Download "something" from google? Dec 26 09:54:21 'ello Dec 26 09:56:30 Quick question... I am checking a preference file via SharedPreferences sharedPref = getActivity().getSharedPreferences(getString(R.string.my_pref_file), Context.MODE_PRIVATE); Dec 26 09:57:21 however, when I want to check my settings that are modified from my settings activity, I usually do SharedPreferences sharedPref = PreferenceManager.getDefaultSharedPreferences(getActivity()); Dec 26 09:57:35 Do I need to do that in a case where I need to check both of those consecutively? Dec 26 09:57:50 Or can I access "settings preferences" from the first file-specific SharedPreferences? Dec 26 10:02:00 Not sure I understand ... I usually keep all my preferences in one file .... but activities in your app can have their own or read each others ... right? Dec 26 10:11:13 yeah but the settings I got don't have a specified file, that's the thing Dec 26 10:11:44 I just have an activity that extends PreferenceActivity and the preference objects have keys assigned to them Dec 26 10:12:02 I never specify, nor do I know, where those preferences are stored Dec 26 10:12:21 I know just that I can access them via PreferenceManager.getDefaultSharedPreferences(context); Dec 26 10:21:59 R.string.my_pref_file doesn't have them .... hmmmm... http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5946135/difference-between-getdefaultsharedpreferences-and-getsharedpreferences ??? Dec 26 10:26:39 ah I see Dec 26 10:26:43 thanks a lot Dec 26 10:29:11 >) Dec 26 10:29:26 TIL also B) Dec 26 10:30:43 No idea about "connection refused' in the Andoid SDK updater? Dec 26 10:34:11 yo Dec 26 10:47:03 Quibus: linux and ipv6 available? sudo "echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/bindv6only" Dec 26 10:50:44 meh, 79 eur to watch devoxx vids :/ Dec 26 10:53:14 Nebukadneza: will try that, thanks Dec 26 10:54:23 Nebukadneza: yep, that's it! Thanks a lot! Dec 26 11:25:08 i kind of want to send romain guy a nice bottle of scotch, that blog post about UI was invaluable Dec 26 11:25:21 and JakeWharton too i guess Dec 26 11:32:49 Hello. Any android developers here from China willing to help me with a quick test? Dec 26 12:02:27 Should I really remove android:debuggable="true" from the Manifest? How exactly is it going to determine if I'm doing a release build or a debug build? Dec 26 12:02:58 Is Internal storage deleted between update ? Dec 26 12:12:53 kakazza, BuildConfig.DEBUG Dec 26 12:13:32 it's generated automatically when you build the application Dec 26 12:14:28 atoll, application updates? I don't think so Dec 26 12:14:51 Zharf: I need to be sure, I store my h2 database on it Dec 26 12:15:24 atoll, I very much doubt it but better wait for someone to answer for sure ;) Dec 26 12:15:47 atoll, you save it in whatever getFilesDir() returns right? Dec 26 12:15:57 or under it Dec 26 12:16:30 in whatever getFilesDir return Dec 26 12:17:00 getFilesDir+"/db.h2" actually Dec 26 12:20:12 I am using apps with action bars but they still use the Menu button... Dec 26 12:20:36 like gmail settings Dec 26 12:20:53 google+ search Dec 26 12:21:01 so it's not really "goodbye to menu button"? Dec 26 12:21:49 luyang, devices which have a hardware menu button don't get the overflow menu item Dec 26 12:21:53 instead they use the menu button Dec 26 12:22:24 it works Dec 26 12:23:12 Zharf: I didn't know that Dec 26 12:23:31 now you do :) Dec 26 12:23:44 My phone has a menu button. So I'd have to use an emulator without a memu button to test action bar with overflow menu Dec 26 12:23:52 yes Dec 26 12:25:02 kiitos Dec 26 12:25:23 i went to record screen of my Google TV i tried some applications :AirDroid , Z - Screen Recorder. but both of them say :portrait mode is not available for this app . can you someone tell my way to record screen of Google TV in normal quality Dec 26 12:26:19 <`z> oh Dec 26 12:26:22 <`z> i thought someone highlighted me Dec 26 12:26:25 <`z> never mind, carry on Dec 26 12:26:29 o.O Dec 26 12:27:11 `z: funny Dec 26 12:27:28 <`z> indeed Dec 26 12:31:36 How can I find out what OpenGL Version is supported by the phone's hardware? Dec 26 12:32:06 I found this http://www.badlogicgames.com/wiki/index.php/Querying_for_OpenGL_ES_2.0_Support but I don't think it queries for the _supported_ OpenGL version but the _required_ OpenGL version of the application. Dec 26 12:32:15 Which can be set with the element. Dec 26 12:32:44 Zharf: Thanks @BuildConfig Dec 26 12:36:06 what do you all use for markdown rendering Dec 26 12:39:15 Ok so, I have an async task in my fragment, which, after finishing, needs to access shared preferences... but I get a "Fragment Not Attached To Activity" exception. Dec 26 12:39:51 Assuming that the async task finishes at a bad time, I put the whole thing into a timertask and delayed it by 300ms Dec 26 12:40:31 After the same thing happened, I delayed it by 3000ms, with no change, dispelling the notion that it's a "not yet attached" issue, but rather a "it's never attaching on orientation flip" issue Dec 26 12:40:48 I forgot to mention above, I get the exception if I changed orientation before the async task could finish Dec 26 12:48:18 Changing the orientation usually restarts the activity (onCreate() is called again), maybe there's a problem with that in your case? Dec 26 12:50:03 whats a good way to have an app-wide action in the action menu? Right now my activities and fragments all add their own items, but what about say a preferences menu item? Dec 26 13:22:52 salut à tous, et merci à adp et chpo pour leurs aides au passage ;) Dec 26 13:42:02 BeHuman__: so is your mother Dec 26 13:48:25 thx pragma :/ Dec 26 13:50:30 pragma-: that wasn't about your mother Dec 26 14:21:38 how can i properly apply my custom style to a SherlockDialogFragment? Dec 26 14:48:35 Is anyone can explain me difference between singleinstance and singletop? Dec 26 15:12:00 funkbox: dr freud disagrees Dec 26 15:14:56 anyone know if google drive has a file picker yet on android? Dec 26 15:15:43 or do i have to do all that myself Dec 26 15:31:19 hello, can anyone help me with something? Dec 26 15:31:35 i have a view to which i added a onLongClickListener Dec 26 15:32:44 if i have a dialog inside it, it's perfectly fine, i get the dialog, but if instead, i call another method which does other stuff, i get npe from View.showContextMenu() Dec 26 15:34:36 oddly enough, if that same method call is from another thread, it mysteriously works Dec 26 15:40:53 Hi. Anybody know how I add the android billing aidl file to my project? I have no idea what they mean in the docs Dec 26 15:41:03 In eclipse Dec 26 15:49:24 Why might a surface /not/ be created? Dec 26 15:55:53 can i get a string response from a http post? or just some errorcode? Dec 26 16:16:50 I'm trying to create a surfaceView but surfaceCreated never gets called.. Why might that be? Dec 26 16:23:30 pew ? Dec 26 16:26:23 is there any way i can disallow creating shortcuts on the home screen for my app ? Dec 26 16:33:55 Hey all, i'm having problems with one of my first apps Dec 26 16:34:22 i'm writing for android 2.3.3 (I have an old r2d2 i'm playing with) Dec 26 16:35:17 I got some basic functionality working, buttons, some text and some OnClickListeners Dec 26 16:35:52 But as soon as I try to add any kind of image or additional resource, the app crashes the next time I try it Dec 26 16:36:12 Be it a background image resource or an app icon Dec 26 16:36:30 with the app icon, the icon actually works but when i run it, the application crashes Dec 26 16:37:02 I'm not sure if theres something special i need to do with resources, or if i'm setting up my directories wrong Dec 26 16:37:32 Other notes, I have a few years of Java programming experience and i'm managing the project from the command line - not through Eclipse Dec 26 16:53:47 is there some... nice way to make the logcat output more managable? i.e. what's the standard way of looking at logcat stuff? there is undoubtedly stuff in here I don't need to know. and looking at 200K lines for a program that has run in three seconds is a bit tedious. Dec 26 16:54:32 can I limit it to output generated by/in the context of program foo? Dec 26 16:55:54 also E/AndroidRuntime( 3164): ... 12 more Dec 26 16:56:11 is not very helpful. I'd like to see those 12 more, rather than those other 200K lines. Dec 26 16:56:22 Those 12 more are above the "caused by" line Dec 26 16:56:45 aha. Dec 26 17:01:15 SimonVT: sorry. reading this is quite different from gcc/gdb which is what I'm used to. Dec 26 17:04:22 <__kr> hi, does anybody understand jelly bean app encryption.. like is it activated in google play? Dec 26 17:04:35 <__kr> and can developers disable it at all for paid apps? Dec 26 17:09:01 does anybody know how one could implement an iOS style popover such as the one shown here? http://mobelux.com/portfolio/instapaper/2_medium.jpg Dec 26 17:14:44 i've been trying to set up a contextual action bar for my listview following this guide http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/menus.html#CAB Dec 26 17:14:59 however nothing happens when i longclick a listitem Dec 26 17:18:34 i have listView.setOnLongClickListener(new View.OnLongClickListener() { in my main activitys onCreate method Dec 26 17:19:13 is that enough to register the views? i tried putting a print statement inside the onLongClick method there but it isn't executed Dec 26 17:19:36 register the click* typo Dec 26 17:22:14 Chilley: Maybe pastebin the relevant code? Dec 26 17:22:33 It'll make it a lot easier for someone who wants to help you Dec 26 17:24:46 http://pastebin.com/tGJCZbxm Dec 26 17:25:28 there's my onCreate method, could my problem be that i need to set the listener to the individual lisitems and not the list itself? Dec 26 17:25:46 setOnItemLongClickListener Dec 26 17:26:47 i'm using that but it doesnt seem to register anything Dec 26 17:27:01 No you're not, you're using setOnLongClickListener Dec 26 17:27:28 oh wow Dec 26 17:27:56 ill try that one Dec 26 17:28:07 guys I am looking for way how to generate code for android same as Scaffold does in ruby on rails Dec 26 17:29:54 what magic words must one utter to make Eclipse accept my onSurfaceCreated method in a custom Renderer? Dec 26 17:30:12 I even removed it and let Eclipse add it itself, but the error just stays Dec 26 17:30:51 is that one those errors on the bottom panel that you have to delete manually before rebuilding? Dec 26 17:31:20 capella: I don't know, but this never was an issue in IDEA, and I wouldn't know why it keeps annoying me about it Dec 26 17:31:47 yah - i used eclipse for several hours learned the buggy work arounds switched to intelliJ and never looked back Dec 26 17:32:12 some eclipse errors you can right click and delete Dec 26 17:32:46 capella: ugh, what kind of UX is _that_? Dec 26 17:32:55 it seems to have accepted me deleting it Dec 26 17:33:20 now trying to rebuild, of which I don't see any indication yet Dec 26 17:33:35 capella: is NDK dev possible with IDEA? Dec 26 17:33:37 <__kr> anybody who can help with beta-testing a game trainer for doodle jump ? Dec 26 17:33:48 because then I'd toss Eclipse right out Dec 26 17:34:26 yes it is but i havent done it - i've written a couple native C++ apps using some funky toolkit whose name I forget Dec 26 17:34:37 and do toss Eclipse Dec 26 17:35:11 oh but I'm in love with my IDEA 12.0, I just realized what I left behind :/ Dec 26 17:36:28 Hello people, i'm new to android building so i'm gonna ask some dumb questions (but not twice :) ). The first one is about opengl init, at the very beginning of boot (after gralloc), i only have /system/lib/egl/libGLES_android.so loaded, and not my vendor-specific ones, that should load jus after that, could you point me to a place i can look ? ( Makefile, part of the tree...) (some of you may already have read that :) ) Dec 26 17:36:56 how do I achieve the same effect as hitting the back-button? Dec 26 17:37:20 I start a new activity with intent. there I want to do foo and bar, and then return as if I hit the back-button. Dec 26 17:38:06 SimonVT: hey i managed to make it register the longclick, what's the use of the setOnLongClickListener? Dec 26 17:38:19 Chilley: That's a View method Dec 26 17:38:28 did the listitems block the click to the underlying lst? Dec 26 17:38:32 For when you're long clicking the view, in this case ListView Dec 26 17:38:36 and that's why it didn't execute? Dec 26 17:38:41 But you're long clicking the items it's displaying Dec 26 17:40:34 why would the android tutorial use the setOnLongClick method to demonstrate using an contextual action bar for a listview Dec 26 17:40:48 alexander__b finish() ? Dec 26 17:40:56 capella: yes. just found it. thanks. Dec 26 17:41:13 isn't CAB supposed to e used for specific items? what kind of contextual actions would you use on a whole listview Dec 26 17:41:18 capella: everything crashed though, so I need to solve it more elegantly. Dec 26 17:41:27 Chilley: It doesn't Dec 26 17:42:09 that is the way ... check your logcat for the crash reason Dec 26 17:55:14 Trying to extend a surfaceView to do some animation, but surfaceCreated never gets called. Why might that be? http://pastebin.ca/2296851 Dec 26 17:55:30 I want to write an app which reads sensor/GPS data and once started by the user logs that to a file; to keep that running in the background I thought I need a Service, but reading about started and bound services I'm not that sure anymore, is there anything else I could accomplish that with? Dec 26 17:57:33 curious ... (I haven't done a service yet) ... what makes you think it wont work? Dec 26 17:57:55 you can bring your service to foreground which has the highest priority then Dec 26 17:58:19 so it wont be killed Dec 26 17:59:07 I've been referring to this but havent tried it yet http://www.vogella.com/articles/AndroidServices/article.html Dec 26 18:01:28 @rn Dec 26 18:01:41 I need a quick interface between the activity and the service, the IBinder stuff, seems rather complicated, I'd like to be able to register a Listener to the service and call it whenever the sensor updates, is that somehow possible? Dec 26 18:02:40 the ibinder isn't complicated. There is alot of good tutorials how to use it Dec 26 18:03:01 ofcourse you need to write few lines of boilerplate code Dec 26 18:03:26 but that's the interface between service and activity Dec 26 18:03:35 do you need a surfaceview to draw on a view Dec 26 18:03:36 ? Dec 26 18:04:38 hello Dec 26 18:08:10 when i select an item in listview with a longclick, how do i get the relevant listitems underlying array object which the adapter uses to create the list Dec 26 18:22:23 JakeWharton: is it possible to have custom width tabs ? Dec 26 18:22:42 how to I do to build android-linaro-2.3.7 I am facing issues with many toolchains Dec 26 18:23:09 oops sorry Dec 26 18:31:17 question how do i move the folder of the avd's to a different "default" location my drives partition is almost full and these avds take up alot of room Dec 26 18:41:37 hey Dec 26 18:42:11 can anyone develop an app for me that checks every minute if the internet connnection is really working and reboots the phone in case teh connection is faultyÃŸ Dec 26 18:42:31 why Dec 26 18:42:35 it should be more than just a ping, because the ping keeps working, it should check if it's possible to get data Dec 26 18:43:06 I donate 10 EUR if you can develop such an app, should be easy to base on one of the many dumb reboot apps already out there Dec 26 18:43:57 why, because on my old phone where I'll for sure not change the ROM again internet stops working sporadically and can't be restored without rebooting Dec 26 18:46:11 I need to know that I get the latest mails and messages Dec 26 18:55:57 does anyone have any thoughts about @AndroidAnnotations? Dec 26 18:56:42 sounds interesting, but looking at the list of apps using it, i dont know any, and they all either have very poor ratings or are 5* with <10 reviews Dec 26 18:57:06 and their screenshots suck :) Dec 26 19:01:02 dadada: that for one would Drain your battery very very fast so wehy would u want to do that ? missed fb msgs vs a battery dead in a couple of hours not worth the it Dec 26 19:02:06 dadada: as for 10 Euro ? that is nothing for Custom Widget/ App/ Service written for you. its like paying pennies for a 20$ item Dec 26 19:16:24 ugh Dec 26 19:16:43 now Eclipse chokes on some undefined var, but I don't know where it's looking for it Dec 26 19:16:49 ${ANDROID_NDK}/ndk-build it says in Builders Dec 26 19:17:03 but where would ANDROID_NDK be defined? Dec 26 19:17:22 In .profile? In Eclipse? Dec 26 19:19:21 droidbuster: there's message that are worth moeny Dec 26 19:19:22 money Dec 26 19:21:17 droidbuster: I could fucking write this myself, I'm just to lazy to setup the sdk and get going. it's not like I want a 1st class application like facebook, I'm a programmer myself, if you know what you're doing and you have the SDK, you should be able to do this within an hour IMHO, and I don't prevent you from putting the app on google play, so this isn't really supposed to be a custom app just for me Dec 26 19:21:26 sorry for the swear word Dec 26 19:24:00 anyone? Mueller? Dec 26 19:24:48 so dadada you develop by launching ideas into chatrooms then? Dec 26 19:26:02 belgianguy: :-) I just think that some people have an comparative advantage in some areas, I'm behind the curve in Android development, someone else might be able to do the task in 20 minutes.... so go figure Dec 26 19:26:35 dadada: and how do you expect ever to get more experienced? Dec 26 19:27:03 if the experience of failure and the rewards of success go to someone else? Dec 26 19:27:14 belgianguy: it's no fun to develop for the phone I have, so slow it's a nightmare, I might get into app development when I've a decent phone to develop for Dec 26 19:27:29 dadada: what kind of phone? Dec 26 19:27:35 lg gt540 Dec 26 19:27:56 with android 2.3.7 custom rom Dec 26 19:28:13 I have an Sony Ericsson X10 Mini Pro, (barely) running 4.1.1 (MiniCM) Dec 26 19:28:29 slow as hell, but it got the job done Dec 26 19:29:02 programming is more than the shortest route between idea and realisation, it's also about learning and adjusting Dec 26 19:29:13 and coffee, lot and lots of coffee Dec 26 19:29:15 please stop the lectures ;-) Dec 26 19:30:05 dadada: my pleasure Dec 26 19:30:22 I spent years programming for the sake of programming, right now I need to get a job done :-) Dec 26 19:30:37 yeah, no soliciting here Dec 26 19:30:41 so you're SOL either way Dec 26 19:30:48 SOL? Dec 26 19:31:23 it's an abbreviation, I'm to lazy to start Google and get going... Dec 26 19:31:28 :p Dec 26 19:31:31 I take a guess, seriously out of line? Dec 26 19:31:32 :-) Dec 26 19:31:53 dadada: that would fit, yes Dec 26 19:32:02 mine was a bit more, expletive Dec 26 19:32:40 heh, ok, don't want to be mean, I'm amazed really that this task seems to be below people here Dec 26 19:33:35 dadada: they are here to help developers, not to be told what they "should" do Dec 26 19:33:55 dadada: what's the task? Dec 26 19:34:00 there are very few things that are below me Dec 26 19:34:11 I get that, but I'm not telling you what to do, I was making an offer Dec 26 19:34:34 dadada: what's the offer ? Dec 26 19:34:35 funkbox is your man/women/thing :p Dec 26 19:34:49 funkbox: write an app/script that reboots the phone when internet isn't working as determined by trying to load a simple page (ping isn't enough), interval should be possible to set Dec 26 19:35:01 why do that Dec 26 19:35:39 funkbox: 10 EUR donation, because my ROM is so broken and I can't get a new phone now, and need internet working 24/7 and reboots fixes that Dec 26 19:35:57 is it possible to show animation inside a popupwindow? Dec 26 19:36:09 dadada: ah, 10 EUR isn't the type of price we consider acceptable Dec 26 19:36:18 btw, at least for me that doesn't seem to be like within an hour job Dec 26 19:36:19 dadada: add two zeros Dec 26 19:36:54 because there is always issues like how to make sure that the app is always running (maybe a service in foreground) Dec 26 19:37:26 but that's just one example, what if the simple webpage you are trying to load is down, your phone will boot every time Dec 26 19:37:32 my bet is a hw issue wrt the wifi radio Dec 26 19:37:43 and reboot is out of question in UX Dec 26 19:37:45 I'm trying to extend from AdapterView, and I add a couple of elements to addViewInLayout(..) but nothing ever appears on the screen.. any obvious problem I could be making? Dec 26 19:38:24 if a custom rom is making your life hell, perhaps try another with better radio drivers Dec 26 19:38:26 hmm, ok, everybody has a price, I'm not rich, so I tried to offer something I could for something I THOUGHT (but perhaps am wrong to assume) was a simple job based on my own experience Dec 26 19:39:21 or consult #android-root, #xda-devs Dec 26 19:39:33 belgianguy: I think it's software related, it effects 2g/3g and wifi, and ping keeps working, only real internet usage stops working Dec 26 19:40:22 and what error does it show? Dec 26 19:40:25 a) radio stuff mostly isn't done by the ROM, but by a closed source radio processor Dec 26 19:40:39 b) this is an application development channel, not a rom development channel Dec 26 19:40:54 belgianguy: opera times out, mail tries to load forever and so on, beyond that I haven't checked Dec 26 19:41:19 disabling/enabling radio in settings doesn't help Dec 26 19:41:28 ie, it can very well be software related and still be unfixable by modifying the ROM Dec 26 19:42:07 just get a new phone Dec 26 19:43:23 seems someone got an iCoal for Christmas Dec 26 19:43:31 dadada: last thing I'll say on the matter wrt Maurits_ a) and b), flash back to stock and see if it persists Dec 26 20:05:32 how can I get the position in newView (inside CursorAdapter)? Dec 26 20:18:52 any trie implementations ? Dec 26 20:26:13 I'm adding a few children to my extended ViewGroup. I call child.measure(MeasureSpec.EXACTLY | getWidth(), MeasureSpec.EXACTLY | 100); but my log prints out that getWidth() and getHeight() of the child obj is 720 / 0 . How can I make an actual height ? :) the added children is a LinearLayout with wrap_content on width/height containing additional views with wrap_content Dec 26 20:27:41 I might be missing something, but I want my ViewGroup to be as large as it's children combined Dec 26 20:29:42 also my viewGroup is getting called with onLayout(false, 0, 836, 720, 836) which is a height of 0. What am I missing here? :) Dec 26 20:31:45 good night Dec 26 20:32:22 how okay is it to make my app support only API 11 and upwards? Dec 26 20:32:53 i want to have a nice holo theme on my app but making that conflicts with my API 8 minimum Dec 26 20:34:04 when i hit theese restrictions in my layout file should i just move it to layout-v11 and then do some alternate solution for lower APIs? Dec 26 20:36:22 Chilley i take it you have not even bothered looking at the docs?? it's even in the create a new project window Dec 26 20:38:11 i know how to change it, my question is what is the recommended minimum API version to support? Dec 26 20:38:32 or do i just keep increasing it when i hit theese restrictions Dec 26 20:39:12 http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/manifest/uses-sdk-element.html Dec 26 20:39:23 see the descriptions of minSdkVersion and targetSdkVersion Dec 26 20:40:05 it depends on what your app is...it is just a simple browswer..then who cares?? Dec 26 20:40:41 to summarize: you don't need to throw away support for older API levels if you want to use the features of newer API levels Dec 26 20:45:56 in general what you want is to set min to 8, target to the newest API level available, and then use the support library and actionbarsherlock to get fragments and an actionbar on older versions of android Dec 26 20:48:03 or just forget about legacy support and set target and min to something like 12 or even higher Dec 26 20:52:20 I just downloaded and installed the ADT bundle. I loaded my android app project, and then it said "The project was not built since its build path is incomplete. Cannot find the class file for java.lang.Object. Fix the build path then try building this project" Dec 26 20:53:02 So then I did this: Right click on project -> Properties -> Java Build Path (From Left List) -> Libraries (Tab) -> Add Library (Button on right) -> JRE System Library -> Next -> Workspace default JRE -> Finish Dec 26 20:53:23 Now I have a ton of errors saying Activity cannot be resolved to type Dec 26 20:57:34 anyone have a suggestion? Dec 26 20:57:40 hm... you use @string/whatever in the XML files, is there some way to use the same in code? Dec 26 20:58:25 Or to put it more properly, nevermind, I'll just google on "android string resources" Dec 26 21:00:32 Hm, and accessing, say, preffUsername via R.java, you have to use R.pref_username but to access it by SharedPreferences.getString("prefUsername")? Dec 26 21:07:49 i just added an imagebutton to my listitems and now i cant select the listitems anymore? Dec 26 21:11:41 Hi there! I'm a Junior Android Developer (still very junior). I'm trying my first app just to learn a few things, it's a shopping list. Can anybody help me in finding a good and simple tutorial for ListViews with checkboxes? Thanks! Dec 26 21:14:00 has anyone created a Dialog box with List Checkbox ? Dec 26 21:14:12 i want to implement a Check all button Dec 26 21:14:37 is it good to use checkTextView or should i use a Text View with a Checkbox Dec 26 21:14:38 ? Dec 26 21:15:30 GreenTuxer: List _views_ Idaknow about, but this tutorial shows you how to set up a preference dialog iwth a list: Dec 26 21:15:30