**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 11 02:59:58 2013 Jan 11 03:32:07 Can I ask Java related questions in here? Jan 11 03:32:39 if they're generic questions, ##java is probably better Jan 11 03:34:35 yeah it is a question relating to MimeMessage / MimeMultipart and how to just create one and save to a file rather but not email it out Jan 11 03:38:20 brx_: hacker's keyboard is pretty easy to use in landscape mode Jan 11 03:38:30 If I create an ImageView programmatically, how can I define its width and height? Jan 11 03:38:38 I love Hacker's keyboard Jan 11 03:38:45 I love it Jan 11 03:39:02 pragma-: i was asking about file managers earlier Jan 11 03:39:13 i use root explorer Jan 11 03:39:21 pragma-, brx_: <3 hackers keyboard, hopefully it doesn't have any key logging code inbuilt :P Jan 11 03:39:27 I use ES File Explorer Jan 11 03:39:49 phix : Hacker's Keyboard is open source Jan 11 03:39:57 pragma-: i cant download paid apps on this device atm Jan 11 03:40:22 brx_: there are other ways to get apks Jan 11 03:40:26 Pfhoenix: Yeah hopefully the compiled version is fine Jan 11 03:40:38 I know pragma- heh Jan 11 03:41:02 there are other markets such as amazon, etc Jan 11 03:41:31 amazon app market lets you try out some apps right in your browser Jan 11 03:42:07 Ill check it out Jan 11 03:43:13 also, amazon gives away a paid app for free every day, apparently Jan 11 03:43:51 Ahhh nice nice Jan 11 03:43:58 Pretty neat Jan 11 03:44:31 anyone? Jan 11 03:45:03 brx_: android apps you can "test drive" on amazon: www.amazon.com/b/ref=amb_link_356762622_2/191-0621103-8806564?node=3071729011 Jan 11 03:46:05 Thanks pragma- . tbh though i dont dl many apps Jan 11 03:46:32 their free apps are mainly shovelware nowadays, to be honest Jan 11 03:47:36 One app i would use is a logcat live wallpaper Jan 11 03:48:20 One that actually worked on my nexus 7, i hate loading logcat everytime, there are always sends to be saved Jan 11 03:48:44 S/SENDS/SECONDS Jan 11 03:57:20 hey, i was wondering if anyone here knew anything about AOSP repos? Specifically forking them? Jan 11 04:29:20 whiterabbit, your connection having problems? Jan 11 04:29:46 ruh roh Jan 11 04:29:51 lol Jan 11 04:30:04 well if its not a real person, and they're spamming my logs, i'll issue a 2 hour ban :P Jan 11 04:40:17 Whats the best way to keep font size consistent across screen sizes? So that the some string always takes up the same percentage of screen space on different devices. Jan 11 04:40:28 you dont want to do that Jan 11 04:40:55 Unfortunately I do ;) Jan 11 04:41:10 Even if it's super tiny or super big. Jan 11 04:41:38 adjust your desired text font by the screen's dips Jan 11 04:43:35 Yeah Ill give that a shot. Just need to figure out all the sizes. Thanks Jan 11 04:58:02 evenin' Jan 11 05:06:43 anyone know if theres any way to remove apps that are in the "draft" status in the play store developer console? Jan 11 05:06:54 i have an app that i start uploading that i now just want to abandon Jan 11 05:07:06 cant seem to figure out how to get rid of it... Jan 11 05:08:04 new or old? Jan 11 05:08:17 find apk -> advanced -> deactivate Jan 11 05:09:56 new Jan 11 05:10:16 hmm i havent uploaded an apk yet Jan 11 05:10:31 I just started the process of adding a new application Jan 11 05:10:36 nothing is in the play store yet Jan 11 05:11:04 no you can't Jan 11 05:11:05 :( Jan 11 05:11:35 "draft" = only topics right? Jan 11 05:11:45 "draft" means not published or never was published Jan 11 05:12:08 if you dont have an APK yet uploaded, upload a junk apk and then deactivate that. auto delete project Jan 11 05:12:15 this will only not work if you published already Jan 11 05:12:56 huh Jan 11 05:12:58 you can't delete a project Jan 11 05:12:59 ever Jan 11 05:13:03 yes you can.. Jan 11 05:13:10 you can't delete a published project Jan 11 05:13:21 but you can delete an uploaded but non-published project... Jan 11 05:13:23 hmm Jan 11 05:13:26 hmm Jan 11 05:13:32 trinity not sure what you mean by only topics Jan 11 05:13:33 how Jan 11 05:13:36 and hi JakeWharton Jan 11 05:13:46 drinks this weekend! Jan 11 05:13:58 I guess i can just wait until i create a new app and change the app details of my current draft Jan 11 05:13:59 maybe Sunday. Saturday is looking insane Jan 11 05:14:08 could use some drinks though Jan 11 05:14:14 :D Jan 11 05:14:19 you might want to see an substance abuse counselor for your obsession with drinking Jan 11 05:14:20 i need to go restock my fridge Jan 11 05:14:31 pragma-, i've had like one beer in the past week Jan 11 05:14:41 and you've been obsessing about it Jan 11 05:14:47 matt9 do you have a signed apk? anything random would work Jan 11 05:14:51 i've asked jake twice Jan 11 05:15:12 i'm too busy jammin' on Spotify Jan 11 05:15:19 trinity like try uploading a random apk signed by me and then I should be able to delete the draft? Jan 11 05:15:25 yes Jan 11 05:15:31 ill try that Jan 11 05:15:45 how Jan 11 05:15:50 i have two options: publish and save Jan 11 05:15:51 tell me when you uploaded it and ill guide you through it Jan 11 05:16:04 and canadian can learn a new trick ;) Jan 11 05:16:05 i have an apk uploaded Jan 11 05:17:01 waiting for matt9 Jan 11 05:17:12 alright it just uploaded Jan 11 05:18:30 press switch to old design Jan 11 05:18:36 k Jan 11 05:18:50 click on that draft Jan 11 05:18:56 k Jan 11 05:18:58 press teh tab "APK" Jan 11 05:19:04 yup Jan 11 05:19:04 "APk Files" Jan 11 05:19:10 switch to advanced mode>> Jan 11 05:19:18 deactivate :) Jan 11 05:19:25 delete.! Jan 11 05:19:30 there is no delete Jan 11 05:19:32 just a reactivate Jan 11 05:19:45 canadiancow: it has to be unpublished remember Jan 11 05:19:45 i see delete Jan 11 05:19:51 it IS unpublished Jan 11 05:19:52 but it wants me to save before deleting.. Jan 11 05:19:53 T_T Jan 11 05:19:58 no like never published before Jan 11 05:20:09 matt9: save and enter in random information for everything Jan 11 05:20:18 matt9: follow step again and press delete and it will be gone Jan 11 05:20:23 i wonder if i somehow accidentally published this at one point Jan 11 05:20:49 canadiancow: you could always try with hello world Jan 11 05:21:02 i have another app i can try it on Jan 11 05:21:06 one sec Jan 11 05:21:54 trinity awesome! that worked Jan 11 05:21:56 thanks masn Jan 11 05:21:58 man& Jan 11 05:21:58 np Jan 11 05:22:04 holy balls Jan 11 05:22:05 :| Jan 11 05:22:10 also theres a javascript code to hide unpublished apps Jan 11 05:22:12 http://pastebin.com/CLRUccrs Jan 11 05:22:15 credit goes to devslash Jan 11 05:22:26 cool Jan 11 05:22:48 it actually worked Jan 11 05:22:53 i wonder if thats a feature or a bug Jan 11 05:23:04 weird feature if so Jan 11 05:23:07 thanks Jan 11 05:23:24 trying to debug an in-app billing problem using the "android.test.purchased", my problem is it's not added to my inventory and I'm no longer able to simulate a new purchase with it. Is there any way to clear it from the inventory? Jan 11 05:23:42 devslash: np haha :) Jan 11 05:23:44 my problem is it is now** added Jan 11 05:24:08 beastmanrage: did you ask me about IAB last time? Jan 11 05:24:08 wait Jan 11 05:24:11 don't use that code Jan 11 05:24:15 Trinity: nope Jan 11 05:24:17 i updated it Jan 11 05:24:23 beastmanrage: having the same problems myself now -.- Jan 11 05:24:47 go to my site apps.hovav.org Jan 11 05:24:48 beastmanrage: just did a factory wipe of my tablet. real items are giving me "user is not authorized" Jan 11 05:26:07 i suppose i can try to "consume" the item Jan 11 05:27:23 canadiancow: likely its a bug, doesn't work with dev console v3 Jan 11 05:47:19 wtf, Galaxy S II Plus ? Jan 11 05:47:25 ? Jan 11 05:47:55 http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/01/10/samsung-rehashes-the-galaxy-s-ii-with-the-s-ii-plus-a-dual-core-handset-with-jelly-bean/ Jan 11 05:48:04 basically the S II with JB Jan 11 05:48:26 well, there also not a ram increase ? Jan 11 05:48:45 sligh processor speed bump ? Jan 11 05:51:02 isnt there a 3? Jan 11 05:51:20 android 4.1.2? Jan 11 05:51:20 yeah Jan 11 05:51:21 ok Jan 11 05:51:28 4.2 is already liek 2 months old :P Jan 11 05:51:41 in eclipse, how do i regenerate R for a project that doesn't havei t ? Jan 11 05:52:36 you could try toggling autobuild on/off Jan 11 05:52:46 should be done automatically though Jan 11 05:52:50 try a clean maybe Jan 11 05:53:02 a clean what ? :o Jan 11 05:53:17 lol Jan 11 05:53:36 * Adnauseam is also new to eclipse Jan 11 05:55:26 g00s: do you mean a cleanup ? i tried that, it didn't work Jan 11 05:56:43 auto build is on, and project->clean doesn't do much either. Jan 11 05:56:49 at that point, the standard answer is to migrate to intellij i think Jan 11 05:57:09 is intellij so superior ? Jan 11 05:58:23 one sec, i need to check eclipse Jan 11 05:58:26 i'm superior Jan 11 06:00:17 Adnauseam: make sure you have Preferences->Android->Build "Automatically refresh resources" checked Jan 11 06:00:39 Top Picks Jan 11 06:00:39 Jan 11 06:00:39 December 6, 2012 Jan 11 06:00:39 Jan 11 06:00:39 User is not eligible for this purchase Jan 11 06:00:57 -_________________________________________________________________________________- Jan 11 06:01:43 thanks for the blank lines Jan 11 06:01:48 we appreicate it Jan 11 06:02:08 I do. I prefer ANSI art though. :) Jan 11 06:03:39 Adnauseam you still got your R problem? Jan 11 06:04:02 sorry, lol fail copy and paste Jan 11 06:04:04 i dont understand why my eclipse is not picking up the newest ADT; its pointed to the right url for updates Jan 11 06:04:19 its stuck at 20.0.0 , should be 20.0.1 Jan 11 06:04:37 resolved! Jan 11 06:04:51 =] Jan 11 06:04:51 Adnauseam was gonna say I have an idea Jan 11 06:05:01 delete all errors from console by hand Jan 11 06:05:04 and build Jan 11 06:05:06 :) Jan 11 06:05:21 or fix the xml thats stopping it Jan 11 06:05:30 would have been my 2 guesses Jan 11 06:07:10 i usually say "keep cleaning until it works" Jan 11 06:07:35 StingRay_: that's what idid :P Jan 11 06:07:59 great minds ;) Jan 11 06:08:02 2 xml attributes were missing and that preventing the build Jan 11 06:08:18 indeed *raises cup of tea to yo* Jan 11 06:08:27 or similar skillz that yield the same mistakes ;) Jan 11 06:09:21 or similar learning habbits :o (bad ones at that, but learning is learning) Jan 11 06:09:21 cup of tea at this time in the morning ? I'm coffee all the way at the mo... tis just gone 6am here Jan 11 06:09:43 hello Jan 11 06:09:47 i was also curious if it's possible to force myself to build all of my apps. can i build an android that will only run apps with a certain certificate/signature? Jan 11 06:09:48 coffee can be tea! Jan 11 06:10:31 sounds possible Jan 11 06:11:08 the steve jobs android Jan 11 06:11:23 except i want it for personal security Jan 11 06:11:35 you could implement a public key and verify @ onStart Jan 11 06:12:02 we're talking about apps you are compiling, right ? Jan 11 06:12:05 i don't know how certs an sigs are used with android Jan 11 06:12:39 Adnauseam: yes. uhm... i'm willing to only use open source apps, and compile them all myself Jan 11 06:12:41 that makes the two of us, but given that android is linux.. i don;t think there's going to be a lot of difference it's time to hit the books! Jan 11 06:13:27 library project - public key verification, would be my initial attempt if i was doing it Jan 11 06:13:41 mm Jan 11 06:13:55 i think android already does it with the package manager Jan 11 06:14:07 automation is cool too Jan 11 06:14:07 packages have to be signed Jan 11 06:14:30 but there is no enforcement... probably unless it's set up Jan 11 06:14:46 * ashes thinks Jan 11 06:15:27 a kernel .zip file... i remember that you can't unzip a kernel upgrade, and then zip it. it won't boot Jan 11 06:15:42 because the signature is lost Jan 11 06:16:26 what does it check for the signature ? Jan 11 06:16:43 you can take an existing zip file, open it in a zip app, edit it, and close it Jan 11 06:17:08 the zip file needs to be signed somehow Jan 11 06:17:46 what is this signing Jan 11 06:18:05 i learned this when i tried to install my own kernel on an htc desire hd Jan 11 06:18:34 is it the singing of the lambs? does it put the signature on its skin or it gets the hose again ? Jan 11 06:19:07 i think it's like openssl. ssl doesn't work if one end doesn't have a certificate Jan 11 06:19:21 and that's built into android somehow Jan 11 06:20:11 https://developer.android.com/tools/publishing/app-signing.html Jan 11 06:20:19 ya Jan 11 06:22:18 hmm Jan 11 06:22:37 says its not used to stop users from installing stuff Jan 11 06:22:55 i noticed that one app can't replace another if it is signed by a different party Jan 11 06:23:09 hey, anybody here with some AOSP knowledge? Jan 11 06:24:08 why dont you ask a real question Jan 11 06:24:14 rather than one that just wastes everyone's time Jan 11 06:25:00 if you had, i would have likely answered it Jan 11 06:25:05 but insteda, im going downstairs now Jan 11 06:25:21 canadiancow: wait - wtf, why is https://dl-ssl.google.com/android/eclipse/ pointing to adt 20.0.0 ? Jan 11 06:25:40 21.0.0 rather Jan 11 06:26:23 canadiancow: umm...okay? lol i'm looking for some information about forking AOSP repos from Google into a git repo of my own, while keeping all of Google's commits (since it's common courtesy) Jan 11 06:26:42 specifically, how to fork them Jan 11 06:26:48 where do you place your android sdk on linux? Jan 11 06:27:09 RustyShackleford in the trash if you want Jan 11 06:27:14 i realize it's sorta arbitrary Jan 11 06:27:17 as long as you set the path to it Jan 11 06:27:20 :) Jan 11 06:27:24 where do YOU personally put it? Jan 11 06:27:31 my favorite is lost+found Jan 11 06:27:41 me ~/Development/SDKs/ Jan 11 06:28:08 oh actually no i dont in linux Jan 11 06:28:20 but I have a NAS type setup Jan 11 06:28:25 i guess Google doesn't do installation testing :/ Jan 11 06:28:29 and network mounts Jan 11 06:29:06 put the sdk in the cloud ! Jan 11 06:29:20 it is, after all, where google wants all your stuff Jan 11 06:30:14 i'm looking for some information about forking AOSP repos from Google into a git repo of my own, while keeping all of Google's commits (since it's common courtesy). and i was talking about how to fork them Jan 11 06:31:06 google "how to use git" Jan 11 06:31:43 hi Jan 11 06:31:48 kevinb: i know how to use git....just not how to fork from gerrit Jan 11 06:32:02 kevinb: i know how to fork from github, is gerrit forking similar? Jan 11 06:32:21 is there a way to do "end-to-end" testing? (particularly, I want to automate the 'tap on buttons and input data' part to do TDD on my app) Jan 11 06:32:54 gerrit is a code review system. repo is the tool for the collection of git repos. check source.android.com . Jan 11 06:33:43 kevinb: so i'd need to use repo to fork then? because if i try and do any git commands on any of the folders they say they aren't git repos, even if they have a .git folder Jan 11 06:34:27 AOSP is a collection of git repos. git commands work on them. Jan 11 06:35:08 and you use repo to clone and manage them as a whole, or git to manage them individually Jan 11 06:35:42 kevinb: thats what i thought! why are they saying they aren't git repos when i use git status? Jan 11 06:36:05 i don't know Jan 11 06:36:40 kevinb: crap hold on, i may have figured it out Jan 11 06:40:28 kevinb: just realized that forking seems to only be a github term Jan 11 06:40:39 kevinb: it's more or less like cloning server-side? is that right? Jan 11 06:40:55 google "how to use git" Jan 11 06:41:26 kevinb: are you serious? Jan 11 06:41:35 while we're on the subject of git: Jan 11 06:42:03 at some point I'd like to "freeze" the source for my app when I release it Jan 11 06:42:30 uhm Jan 11 06:42:32 then make a working branch. When this branch is satisfactory, I want to merge it back Jan 11 06:43:35 read about git, a lot, and if you think that a howto is missing, then write it and publish it Jan 11 06:43:39 something15525: "cloning locally" is `git clone`. `forking` is to make a new branch of code starting where you are, but where you'll add different features Jan 11 06:44:00 something15525: 'freezing' is done with tags Jan 11 06:44:28 Tordek: so is there a way to "fork" with the git command? or is that purely a GitHub term? also I didn't ask about freezing RustyShackleford did Jan 11 06:44:53 something15525: 'git checkout -b newbranchname Jan 11 06:45:23 (or 'git branch newbranchname; git chechout newbranchname'; it's the same) Jan 11 06:45:36 git command forking is branching Jan 11 06:45:49 Tordek: so if i sync the AOSP repo to my source dir, then go into the folder of the repo i want to "fork", i git checkout a new branch? then push it to GitHub? Jan 11 06:46:00 oh, sorry, you were talking about github Jan 11 06:46:08 Tordek: nonono Jan 11 06:46:17 no, my bah; github forking is differnt from branching Jan 11 06:46:22 *bad Jan 11 06:46:45 Tordek: oh okay. and how would i replicate github "forking" on a git repo that isn't on github? Jan 11 06:46:53 Tordek: sorry, that's what i was asking Jan 11 06:47:06 when you fork in github, it's indeed the same as a 'git clone' command: you create a new repo, that you own and push to, but with the same history as the ther one Jan 11 06:47:47 Tordek: so to "fork" a git repo, i would clone it into my own directory and then i can push to github? Jan 11 06:48:25 if you're using github, you just click the 'fork this repo' button and clone your new fork, and push there Jan 11 06:48:42 if not, you just git clone, and push into your new clone Jan 11 06:48:51 i would think merging it back would be much harder Jan 11 06:48:51 anyone ever get the, "user is not eligible for this purchase" Jan 11 06:49:21 Tordek: ....and how do i clone a directory? wow sorry if i'm sounding dumb here Jan 11 06:49:29 Trinity: i'm used to cloning with .git files Jan 11 06:49:30 I have been getting a lot of problems with the CHECK_TTS_DATA intent, has this changed in recent framework? Jan 11 06:49:41 RustyShackleford: look up 'git flow'; it's a common workflow kinf of how you want to do it Jan 11 06:50:08 Tordek: actually i think i just did it, i just moved to the directory and ran git clone . ~/myclonedir Jan 11 06:50:15 something15525: you can't; git doesn't know about directories; only files. you can only clone whole repos (with their whole history) Jan 11 06:50:17 http://ideone.com/ZJgnr2 Jan 11 06:50:47 so I did all of my development on my windows install for this app. I'm in the process of setting up my environment on linux Jan 11 06:50:56 what eclipse files do I need? Jan 11 06:51:01 something15525: i dont see how that would help me Jan 11 06:51:07 if you mean "clone a directory holding a repo", yes, that's right: the directory itself is a repo, and you just clone it Jan 11 06:51:24 Trinity: he mistabbed; he meant me :) Jan 11 06:51:59 actually, heres the bug http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=36430 Jan 11 06:52:21 tordek: thought so haha Jan 11 06:52:27 beastmanrage: did you fix your IAB error? Jan 11 06:52:32 Trinity: oops sorry Jan 11 06:52:55 Trinity, it wasnt really an error, i just needed to "consume" the item so i could retest with it Jan 11 06:54:09 Tordek: so how would i get the whole repo? thats what i'm trying to do... Jan 11 06:54:27 Tordek: hold that thought Jan 11 06:55:33 if there is a bug within Jellybean, does it not get resolved until there is the next big update push? Jan 11 06:55:42 something15525: just the clone command, like you just did Jan 11 06:56:14 Tordek: hold on a sec i think i figured it out, sorry i was doing something stupid first there. think i have it cloned. lemme check Jan 11 06:57:23 okay quick check. do I need to save arrayadapters and vectors on onpause method and load them on onresume when launchmode is standard? I go to home screen, I come back, program crash when I try to use those adapters and vectors Jan 11 06:58:47 aah if only I could use intents with singleinstance launchmode. seems much easier launchmode :-< Jan 11 07:05:14 is there a specific team dedicated to TTS development, id love to have a word Jan 11 07:05:47 beastmanrage: hard to tell. there have been bugs that spanned multiple major releases Jan 11 07:06:00 fuck, there are bugs from 2.2 that still aren't fixed Jan 11 07:06:08 even before that, probably Jan 11 07:06:12 i'd like to have a word with the guys responsible for the new keyboard in 4.2.1, and their use, or lack of testers Jan 11 07:06:33 i feel like the entire section of the framework is incredibly neglected Jan 11 07:06:35 StingRay_: seems a little crashy sometimes, doesn't it? lol Jan 11 07:06:55 something15525 no, it's a buffer problem that I hate Jan 11 07:07:08 now im forced to do a hacky "work around" for something that broke in jellybean Jan 11 07:07:14 StingRay_: i see Jan 11 07:07:25 http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=41687&can=5&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars <-- that Jan 11 07:07:52 tis dam annoying Jan 11 07:08:10 StingRay_: i find it annoying how no one's gotten back to you about it Jan 11 07:08:19 that 2 Jan 11 07:08:20 StingRay_: at least in the link you showed Jan 11 07:08:20 StingRay_: no owners; its probably hopeless Jan 11 07:08:40 not sure why no1 else is bothered by it Jan 11 07:08:53 it affects all apps and can lead to incorrect data Jan 11 07:09:56 i gotta try this Jan 11 07:10:21 minimise the on screen keyboard with the back button? Jan 11 07:10:28 yes Jan 11 07:10:31 well Jan 11 07:10:40 the down arrow that is the back button Jan 11 07:10:47 yeah. hashmap was not automatically saved so basically had to take data, store it to sharedpreferences and build it back up on onResume Jan 11 07:10:54 phew Jan 11 07:11:37 got lucky that I accidentally checked this feature too. Program was about to be given for testing new features. Would be embarrassing if old ones would have started to cause program to crash :D Jan 11 07:11:44 so with a bug like this, when will it be fixed, when the next OTA is pushed to devices like every 6 months? Jan 11 07:11:54 dunno Jan 11 07:11:58 never probably Jan 11 07:12:07 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2058791 Jan 11 07:12:18 my other explanation of it Jan 11 07:13:13 say it does get fixed, would it then be committed to some main SDK, which will then need to be adopted by each manufacturer, and then pushed to devices? Jan 11 07:13:35 god knows, 1st time I submitted an OS bug Jan 11 07:13:47 not sure how it all works tbh Jan 11 07:13:58 looks like i need yet another band aid for the TTS engine Jan 11 07:14:05 :) Jan 11 07:14:37 i gotta sneak into the pops room to grab the nex 7 and try that out Jan 11 07:14:42 i dont believe it Jan 11 07:14:43 Tordek: thank, you, i got it working. YES Jan 11 07:15:01 beastmanrage what my bug ? Jan 11 07:15:11 yea, how could they flub up the stock keyboard Jan 11 07:15:17 I've tested on 10x of devices Jan 11 07:15:23 even non-stock Jan 11 07:15:29 AOSP CM10.x Jan 11 07:15:37 tis there Jan 11 07:15:48 the odd thing is the calendar app Jan 11 07:15:56 stock cal dont seem to do it Jan 11 07:16:01 if you were to type something reasonably long, how much of it does it then duplicate when turned? Jan 11 07:16:04 and cant for the life of me work out why Jan 11 07:16:29 beastmanrage the last "corrected/noncorrected" input Jan 11 07:17:14 so whatever was still hanging in the ime buffer when kb is minimized Jan 11 07:17:43 off for a cig Jan 11 07:18:43 StingRay_: nooo! resist! Jan 11 07:19:08 never mind, not my business Jan 11 07:19:13 lol Jan 11 07:21:52 How can I clone an object but send new data to the constructor? Jan 11 07:31:30 ok figured out a solution to my problem. new problem: how can I make a Spinner not call onItemSelected during population? Jan 11 07:33:21 dammit. seems you can't get the menu if dialog is shown up. there went that idea Jan 11 07:33:36 guess I need to put button to dialog to handle that instead Jan 11 07:39:10 tneva82: i handle that with this: http://teslacoilsw.com/tmp/dialogmenu.png it's a custom dialog title and the overflow button opens a listpopupwindow Jan 11 07:40:27 guess that could work too Jan 11 07:40:28 users don't always realize there is a menu on that screen. however it's an advanced option anyway (in my case) so that's okay. and users do understand when i tell them how to get there Jan 11 07:40:58 but since it's basically just needed in this case for quick access to one option from the menu I think it's okay to just add button to the dialog Jan 11 07:41:21 button is more discoverable so indeed that might be better Jan 11 07:42:05 that too :) Jan 11 07:48:42 is there a way to create a new instance of an object from a pre-existing object? Jan 11 07:56:16 hrm in Android 4.x, can webview's access res/drawable's ? I'm reading mixed reports of

on stackoverflow. i tried it and it seems to be working with my debug apk but not my release apk. i'm assuming it's my build process, but the mixed reports make me not so sure Jan 11 08:03:36 damccull: .clone() :P Jan 11 08:03:56 g00s thanks. Jan 11 08:20:37 hi is creating AVD in terminal is better than in window? Jan 11 08:21:16 hello can you guys take a look at my question on SO: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14259170/no-activity-exception-when-using-viewpager-and-fragments-inside-fragments Jan 11 08:23:23 I think this is prety standard navigation flow and i cant get it to work :( Jan 11 08:26:28 mikeyMike: unless you have very specific requirements I'd just use the UI Jan 11 08:26:47 the only time I start it through the terminal is when I want it to make use of qemu Jan 11 08:28:21 zipoboy tried just getActivity().getFragMan**** Jan 11 08:28:24 ? Jan 11 08:28:40 jus a moment :D Jan 11 08:28:48 unless you really need the instance that the parent fragment holds Jan 11 08:28:55 not sure why you would Jan 11 08:29:06 but hey, I'm more a 3d artist than a programmer Jan 11 08:29:07 :) Jan 11 08:29:37 bah. I have 2 spinners. contents of spinner 2 depends on spinner 1. I need to set up values of both automatically. I set up spinner 1 but first attempt to change spinner 2 fails. if I repeat then they are correct. Think it's because spinner 2 values get changed so spinner 2 selection is changed, spinner 2 values get changed, selection goes to 0. Jan 11 08:31:12 StingRay_: If i use getFragmentManager() instead of getChildFragmentManager() even thou i'm in subfragment. I don't get an exception, but one of the fragments inside viewpager doesn't get recreated after i select viewpager fragment for the second time. Jan 11 08:35:29 I've got a problem with the back button behaviour. Appreciated if you care to have a look: http://stackoverflow.com/q/14274338/927408 Jan 11 08:53:03 Hi, I have an EditText with type set to personName. If I edit this field (in landscape mode) I get a softkeyboard and a large white edit area and a button that says "Volgende" (that means "Next"). Can I somehow change this view? I want the "volgende" button to say something else because there is only 1 input field and the concept of "Next" does not make any sense. Also I'd prefer if the keyboard would just popup on top of the Jan 11 08:53:03 existing view and the text is edited in place instead of the large white textarea (which does not make sense either for a single line that takes up 10% of the white space) Jan 11 09:13:46 <\0x90\> If phone goes to sleep your app will no longer execute, so socket will eventually timeout. You can prevent this with wake lock. This will eat devices battery tremendously - I know I wouldn't use that app. Jan 11 09:14:20 <\0x90\> read this on stackoverflow. is this true ? if so.. how does apps like line maintain connection to a server .. when phone sleeps ? do they do some kind of scheduled queries.. or something similar ? Jan 11 09:15:19 \0x90\: maybe they wouldn't and would use GCM instead Jan 11 09:17:01