**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Feb 03 02:59:59 2013 Feb 03 03:00:51 I see, sorry, can't help you with PhoneGap Feb 03 03:01:35 But how does the complete line look like with your eventlistener? Feb 03 03:04:01 I guess something like .addEventListener("resume", myCallback, false); ? Feb 03 03:04:15 If you do not get the answer here, their Google Group (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/phonegap) might be of help. Feb 03 03:05:05 Hi, I'm using a WebView for the first time in an app. Can load a local page with images ok, but JS is not executing. I have used wv.getSettings().setJavaScriptEnabled(true); before loading the page up and the JS works fine in a normal browser. Feb 03 03:08:28 Ah, fixed it. Feb 03 03:11:34 yeah that's what I have kakazza Feb 03 03:11:51 .addEventListener("resume", myCallback, false); ? Feb 03 03:12:08 but, it keeps reinitializing the app Feb 03 03:13:41 when I resume Feb 03 03:30:24 Is there a way to update the ADT Tools to 21.0.1, or do I just reinstall? Feb 03 03:38:10 Smashcat: Use the SDK Updater, as usual Feb 03 03:38:52 kakazza: Seems like it's bugged. Says I have 20.0.1 installed, but when I launch Eclipse it throws up a warning that I need to install 20.0.1 Feb 03 03:40:06 So, do you have 20.0.1? Feb 03 03:40:07 If I try to add them again, the SDK Manager complains that a package depends on 'Missing SDK Platform Android, API 17' so it refuses to install anything. Feb 03 03:40:09 Or 21.0.1? Feb 03 03:40:16 yeah, the updater is a pile of crap. i've had it bust things up quite often Feb 03 03:40:23 reinstall everything Feb 03 03:40:24 I have 20.0.1 Feb 03 03:40:49 g00s: Yeah, thought I'd have to. Don't think it ever works, to be honest. Feb 03 03:41:03 g00s: Really? It worked for me ever since. Feb 03 03:41:06 i wind up with a mishmash of 2 versions Feb 03 03:41:21 as if some old files could not be deleted or something Feb 03 03:41:49 g00s: It's annoying because every time there's an update I have to delete everything, then reinstall and download all the APIs etc again... Feb 03 03:42:15 yeah, i do the same Feb 03 03:42:44 You'd think Google could work out how to make the updater work by now - it's been what, 8 years? :) Feb 03 03:43:43 close to 5 years Feb 03 03:44:05 kakazza: heh, ok, I'll let them off :) Feb 03 03:44:10 And I never encountered any problems to be honest. Feb 03 03:44:24 kakazza: You've been lucky I guess Feb 03 03:44:55 hi all Feb 03 03:45:03 im looking into getting a tablet Feb 03 03:45:14 i will use it for app develeopment Feb 03 03:45:22 do you recommend a nexus 10? Feb 03 03:46:28 Yes. Feb 03 03:47:21 https://plus.google.com/u/0/107708120842840792570/posts/cz5TxuoNDfG Feb 03 03:48:49 kakazza: awesome, thanks Feb 03 03:50:08 i almost broke down for a n7, maybe i should do a n10 instead Feb 03 03:50:39 WebView is weird on a Nexus 7, it only has a resolution of 962x528 on the canvas (before scrolling) Feb 03 03:50:42 i hate that this useful info is tied up in G+ bullshit Feb 03 03:52:14 the nexus 10 is worht the money? Feb 03 03:52:25 i want to start getting into android dev Feb 03 03:52:49 shaun413: Anything's worth the money if you find it useful, to be honest Feb 03 03:53:08 well Feb 03 03:53:19 can you throw me the basics of android dev? Feb 03 03:53:23 is it just java? Feb 03 03:53:55 shaun413: Yes, Java and XML. Plenty of info online Feb 03 03:54:13 oh Feb 03 03:54:27 is it easy to make an app if you ahve a background in java? Feb 03 03:54:34 im taking a java course now Feb 03 03:54:42 and want to make some apps ove the summer Feb 03 03:54:46 shaun413: Yes, if you write Java, you'll have no problem Feb 03 03:55:02 an intro class will cover all i need? Feb 03 03:55:37 shaun413: You'll need to use the Android API etc, it's not quite Java, but close enough. The transition is easy Feb 03 03:55:47 ok Feb 03 03:56:00 is there any possibility for monetary gain? Feb 03 03:56:05 through making apps? Feb 03 03:56:15 shaun413: As I say, there's plenty of info online - the Android dev site has tonnes of code and examples Feb 03 03:56:50 shaun413: I make a good living (mostly do embedded work, but also some Android for event use, not public) Feb 03 03:58:17 shaun413: You do need the hardware to test/debug on though, as the emulator sucks (in my opinion) Feb 03 03:58:34 well i mean is it possible to make alittle money, making apps while i go to school and such Feb 03 03:58:47 that would make it easier to buy the tablet lol Feb 03 03:58:58 i know there is a need for 10 inch tablet apps Feb 03 03:59:01 shaun413: Of course, if you're good enough to make stuff people want Feb 03 03:59:31 how does that work exactly? Feb 03 03:59:38 is it through google? Feb 03 04:00:08 shaun413: Yes, you can sell stuff through the store. Personally I don't do that, but it depends on the type of app you're writing Feb 03 04:00:22 Or the "Play Store" as it is now Feb 03 04:00:31 hi, is onDraw() similar to a non-Android game function while(game_is_running){ }? Feb 03 04:00:57 a Feb 03 04:01:38 Right, reinstalling the SDK again... Feb 03 04:02:37 the MVC structure is a bit confusing for me, I'm trying to control the framerate separately form the game update, but the activity class doesn't seem to control framerates Feb 03 04:14:00 shaun413: most android devs do it moonlighting Feb 03 04:14:06 widith: You generally need to use a Timer or Thread for your game logic, and the repaint will occur automatically a the optimum rate Feb 03 04:14:11 i should say, most mobile devs Feb 03 04:14:15 moonlighting? Feb 03 04:14:26 yeah, they have a real job and do it on the side Feb 03 04:14:33 thats what i plan Feb 03 04:14:43 im going to school for comp eng and comp sci Feb 03 04:15:00 want to do it on the side Feb 03 04:15:02 its pretty tough to make money unless you are being paid to work on a project Feb 03 04:15:07 to enter the market Feb 03 04:15:12 there are some success stories, of course Feb 03 04:17:30 how do I scale from small screens to bigger ones? I'm guessing that small ones have X x Y pixels, and larger ones have more pixels? Feb 03 04:18:58 Can I be certain that my Activity is Active when it receives the onActivityResult callback? Feb 03 04:19:51 mmlj4: Yes, you have different sizes - a single project can have different views and assets within it, so it uses the most appropriate one for the device. You can be pixel perfect though, unless you're writing for a single device Feb 03 04:20:14 that makes sense Feb 03 04:20:15 *can't Feb 03 04:21:28 s/is/will be/ Feb 03 04:21:51 mmlj4: It's a lot like web development (responsive design) You can also use code to measure the available space and move things about etc Feb 03 04:25:20 mmlj4 , but you can also have different layouts in your resources labeled by various screen sizes and count on the best one being used. Feb 03 04:26:35 does Intel Android phones translate to better driver support? Feb 03 04:27:48 but would a tablet be a good investment if i want to get into dev? Feb 03 04:27:52 for tablets? Feb 03 04:28:00 nexus Feb 03 04:28:06 n7 or n10 Feb 03 04:28:16 i was going to get a 32 gb nexus 10 Feb 03 04:28:26 just want to make sure it will actually be usefull Feb 03 04:28:31 and im not wasting money Feb 03 04:29:59 i think all he nexi will be updated by i/o in may :) Feb 03 04:30:19 with even higher density displays Feb 03 04:30:29 anyhow, dont need 32g - 16 will do Feb 03 04:30:56 shaun413 , There are some things that can only be tested on real hardware. Feb 03 04:30:57 shaun413: Yep for development, just buy the lowest end model Feb 03 04:31:02 shaun: if you are targetting games, n7 is nicer since it is easier to wave about but n10 is nicer for reading Feb 03 04:31:52 yeah, if you are doing HW stuff you better get a real device Feb 03 04:32:05 ioio, gps, bluetooth, etc Feb 03 04:32:28 ..so it seems when I background the app then clicking the app icon creates another instance of the app Feb 03 04:32:34 i wonder if you can use the bluestack player as a better emu Feb 03 04:32:42 very strange Feb 03 04:32:52 deanclkclk: try the phonegap channel, seriously Feb 03 04:33:02 (if they have one) Feb 03 04:33:29 well i want to get the tablet for personal use too Feb 03 04:33:34 as well as development Feb 03 04:33:46 will a nexus 10 be good? Feb 03 04:35:33 shaun413: it probably just comes down to whether or not you prefer a bigger or smaller tab Feb 03 04:35:58 they are both great in my opinion Feb 03 04:36:26 bigger Feb 03 04:36:30 looked at the 7 Feb 03 04:36:35 there you have it :) Feb 03 04:36:36 too small for my tastes Feb 03 04:36:44 but it will be usuable for dev? Feb 03 04:36:49 just need to make sure Feb 03 04:36:50 the 10? Feb 03 04:36:53 Can I presume that like UI events, onActivityResult only fires on active activities? Feb 03 04:37:17 either one will be usable Feb 03 04:37:24 yes the 10 Feb 03 04:37:46 the 10 might be better because you can use it to emulate screens with different densities Feb 03 04:38:07 shaun413: Realistically, if you're getting something to use to write apps for the public, you should do some research about which has a bigger user base. It doesn't matter which you prefer personally, what matters is the audience size Feb 03 04:38:32 true Feb 03 04:38:33 https://plus.google.com/107708120842840792570/posts/cz5TxuoNDfG <-- related Feb 03 04:38:42 but it hoenestly a tablet for me first Feb 03 04:38:46 then a tablet for dev Feb 03 04:38:55 i like the nexus 10 so i want to dev for that Feb 03 04:39:03 shaun413: what kind of app(s) are you planning to write? is this more of a experience right now? Feb 03 04:39:12 well Feb 03 04:39:12 err..learning experience Feb 03 04:39:16 learning yes Feb 03 04:39:19 :D Feb 03 04:39:23 im learning java now Feb 03 04:39:37 should have a decent background by the time the course is done Feb 03 04:39:51 then I would say don't worry too much about hitting the most users (unless you're really motivated) Feb 03 04:40:05 and I would say the 10 is perfectly fine to learn on, and will make a great personal use tab as well Feb 03 04:40:14 perfect Feb 03 04:40:24 do you actually code on the tablet? Feb 03 04:40:27 but I agree with what someone said earler, you probably don't need 32GB Feb 03 04:40:27 or on a pc Feb 03 04:40:27 shaun413: You can (just about) use the emulator to test layouts on different sized screens, but it's not a great way to test - personally I don't use it at all, so have a lot of devices to test on Feb 03 04:40:33 unless you plan on loading it up with movies or something Feb 03 04:40:53 really Feb 03 04:40:58 shaun413: ppl generally use eclipse or intelliJ Feb 03 04:40:58 i dont need the 32 g? Feb 03 04:41:00 gb? Feb 03 04:41:22 I mean I don't know, I certainly don't.. but then again I don't watch a ton of movies on mine Feb 03 04:41:25 does google play store charge tax and shipping? Feb 03 04:41:30 shaun413: You always code on a PC/Mac, and test/debug on the device. You don't need storage for development. So a 16GB device is as good as a 32GB Feb 03 04:41:37 if I did, I probably wouldn't keep them sitting on the filesystem forever either so I doubt I'd ever need 32GB (personally) Feb 03 04:41:43 Smashcat, its for personal use too Feb 03 04:41:54 pdf textbooks for school, photos, Feb 03 04:41:58 stuff like that Feb 03 04:42:20 shaun413: Do you need everything on there all the time? Feb 03 04:42:50 like what? Feb 03 04:43:05 i have had several people to tell me to go for the 32 gb Feb 03 04:43:47 if you have money to burn, why not Feb 03 04:44:11 not too much money to burn lol Feb 03 04:44:18 shaun413: I mean, do you think you'll need to store over 16GB of stuff on it all the time? Generally, unless you're carrying a large music collection, or movies around you won't. PDF's, bookes etc don't take much space. Feb 03 04:44:30 but if theres no tax on the play store and shipping is 15 dollars Feb 03 04:44:37 thats 415 for the 16 Feb 03 04:44:45 then i can get 10 percent at staples Feb 03 04:44:54 with tax the total for the 32 is 484 Feb 03 04:44:58 shaun413: If you have a PC/Mac as well, then you can just put the stuff you want on the tablet as you need it, so 16GB should be more than enough Feb 03 04:46:10 The money you save could then go toward another device (phone, smaller tablet). Depends if you're doing serious dev though Feb 03 04:47:04 Only you can know that though! :) Feb 03 04:47:59 i have a phone Feb 03 04:48:05 so dont need hta Feb 03 04:48:06 that Feb 03 04:48:25 shaun413: An Android phone? Feb 03 04:48:36 yes Feb 03 04:48:44 That's cool then Feb 03 04:48:52 oh if the nexus 10 16gb has tax Feb 03 04:48:57 then is around 445 Feb 03 04:49:02 i wonder how popular the n10 has been; i dont hear much about it at all Feb 03 04:49:05 then the 32gb would cost 484 Feb 03 04:49:17 g00s, its been sold out for ages Feb 03 04:49:26 i think prestty popular Feb 03 04:49:27 g00s: That's what I'm wondering. It's not even available here (UK) as far as I know Feb 03 04:49:36 it doesn't mean anything shaun413 Feb 03 04:49:37 (always out of stock) Feb 03 04:49:44 the n4 has been sold out, they hardly made any Feb 03 04:50:29 the microsoft surface commercial where they're flinging the surface around while doing flips and dances and crap really annoys me for some reason Feb 03 04:50:48 really, the best way to measure the popularity of a device is by measuring web usage Feb 03 04:51:01 web usage is the #1 use case for tablets Feb 03 04:51:13 so , IDC can say MS shipped 900k Surface RTs, but it doesn't mean shit Feb 03 04:51:25 in fact, seems like IDC is fucking up the numbers for android too Feb 03 04:51:50 because, although they keep reporting android market share is going nuts, web share clearly goes to apple devices - and its not close Feb 03 04:52:02 I'm pretty sure there aren't many Nexus 10's around. As I say, there's nowhere with then in stock in the UK as far as I know (not even sure they've officially been launched) Feb 03 04:52:23 samsung channel stuffed their tablets a while back, they hardly sold any of them Feb 03 04:52:25 There's loads of Nexus 7's though Feb 03 04:52:43 yeah, i think on the order of 3million of those are sold per month Feb 03 04:52:57 Android OEMs almost never release those numbers, but apple does Feb 03 04:53:08 fun, fun, fun Feb 03 04:53:52 A lot of places use the "Sold out" flag on products when they've never actually had any stock, so it's not a good indicator that it's selling well :) Feb 03 04:54:30 its also weird, when i go to the play store, they have front page N7 Feb 03 04:54:43 i had to dig for the n10, which was easy, but still Feb 03 04:55:54 g00s: Yeah, I get the feeling it hasn't been rolled out in a lot of places. I'd normally get sent one pretty soon, and haven't heard anything about getting one as yet. Feb 03 04:55:58 shoudl i not buy a nexus ten then? Feb 03 04:56:16 for myself, personally, i would just get a n7 i think Feb 03 04:56:31 shaun413: Up to you, if you want it mainly for yourself, and you can actually get one, sure! Feb 03 04:56:32 if you are cost sensitive Feb 03 04:56:52 i dont think the nexus 7 is big enough for me Feb 03 04:57:21 I wouldn't say an N10 would be a good platform for a developer at the moment though, unless they can target that model. Feb 03 04:57:21 shaun413: ok .. get the n10 ? Feb 03 04:57:36 shaun413: Why don't you think it's big enough? Feb 03 04:57:57 I've got a couple of iPads, and the N7, and I use the N7 all the time, to be honest. Feb 03 04:58:49 nexus 7 just looks like a large phone to me Feb 03 04:59:03 i have bad vision too Feb 03 04:59:03 anyone here have the gs2 from straight talk? Feb 03 04:59:08 i like someting bigger Feb 03 04:59:23 shaun413: seems like you know what you need then Feb 03 04:59:29 shaun413: I think you just need to go try some devices out. It might turn out that you like the iPad or Windows surface better. Feb 03 04:59:36 Smashcat, wy is it not good ? Feb 03 04:59:46 i was told not to buy an ipad Feb 03 04:59:47 * g00s headdesk Feb 03 04:59:51 shaun413: heh Feb 03 04:59:55 microsoft surface is alright Feb 03 05:00:23 shaun413: Dude, just go do some research, it sounds like you're all over the place and don't know what you want :) Feb 03 05:00:41 well Feb 03 05:00:46 i did like the nexus 10 Feb 03 05:00:48 but Feb 03 05:00:59 my other choice was ipad Feb 03 05:01:05 but i want to do dev Feb 03 05:01:14 and people told me the ipad is not good Feb 03 05:01:35 shaun413: What people? Are they developers with experience of iOS and Android? Feb 03 05:01:43 no Feb 03 05:01:49 but isnt ios openc? Feb 03 05:01:51 not java? Feb 03 05:02:26 shaun43: It's Objective C (although you can mostly write in C/C++ if you like). It's not Java though, no. Feb 03 05:02:59 openc? Feb 03 05:03:03 if you want to do HW stuff, forget about iOS its a pita to join the mFI program Feb 03 05:03:24 (I have also worked on iOS apps - the actual dev environment is arguably better than Android, but there's a lot more restrictions on distribution) Feb 03 05:03:46 and $99/yr for the provisioning Feb 03 05:04:16 g00s: Yeah, but that's really irrelevent for a developer. The real problem is the distribution process with iOS Feb 03 05:04:43 why isnt the nexus 10 popular? Feb 03 05:04:56 shaun413: Because it's not available maybe Feb 03 05:05:00 ok, are you trolling now ? Feb 03 05:05:12 im not trolling Feb 03 05:05:21 you said it wasnt popular Feb 03 05:05:24 Once people can buy them, they'll become more popular Feb 03 05:05:32 ahh ok Feb 03 05:05:39 they just came back in stock Feb 03 05:05:45 on play store today Feb 03 05:07:47 shaun413: Heh, just checked; tried to order one again just now, and the store won't allow the order to go through Feb 03 05:08:13 I'll wait for the client to send me one - hehe! Feb 03 05:09:18 client? Feb 03 05:09:38 shaun413: People I do work for - I'm freelance Feb 03 05:10:14 ohh Feb 03 05:11:37 alright i gtg to bed Feb 03 05:11:44 but the nexus 10 is a good buy? Feb 03 05:11:45 ok, bb Feb 03 05:12:05 shaun413: Only you can answer that Feb 03 05:12:25 shaun413: sleep on it :) Feb 03 05:12:29 k night Feb 03 05:12:31 :D Feb 03 05:19:55 Hello, I have an ASync Task and in the onPostExecute method for some reason, the current Activity (that returns from using getActivity()) is lost. I get a Null Pointer Exception in onPostExecute because myActivity() in Toast.makeText() is null. Why is getActivity() null in only THAT method?? Feb 03 05:34:12 Hi all, this code http://pastebin.com/M5FqigkJ gives me the error "The constructor ArrayAdapter(MainActivity, int, int, List) is undefined" but I cannot see why Feb 03 05:35:16 I've tried replacing this with MainActivity.this but the error remains (the line that's causing the problem is line 31/32 Feb 03 05:59:42 got the problem, well know what it is now; I'm not referencing my layout properly Feb 03 06:00:37 or not :\ Feb 03 07:05:29 I'm working on a headless server and for the life of me can't get an emulator up and running, it keeps bombing out after attempting to startup GL support Feb 03 07:05:49 any hints (other than -no-window, I've of course already tried that, and messing with my density config, etc..,) Feb 03 07:06:39 (I should have clarified, by "bombing out," I mean it segfaults.) Feb 03 07:13:19 nvm, found a documented bug report confirming the issue Feb 03 07:13:49 kmicinski , can I see the link? Feb 03 07:15:05 kmicinksi ++ Feb 03 07:15:55 does anyone know of a way to write a component that forces the ignoring of an intent? Feb 03 07:16:04 I'm guessing you are ssh -X ing in and starting eclipse etc? Feb 03 07:16:44 lasserix: you mean like, "i dont want anyone to every be able to use ACTION_SEND" or something ? Feb 03 07:17:10 not starting eclipse actually, I can forward the X session and start (e.g.,) android Feb 03 07:17:25 but the real use case is that I have a test server which runs headless Feb 03 07:17:56 uhh in particular my lowest end test device suffered steam(?) damage and now constantly (i'm guessing) causes the camera to start all the time--like every other letter in a text message while typing Feb 03 07:18:10 thought it might be an interesting excerise to "ignore" an intent broadcast Feb 03 07:18:19 lasserix , Package Manager setComponentEnabledSetting Feb 03 07:18:33 I am completely new to android, I need to copy a zip file from my assets folder during apk install time and extract the zipfile in the sdcard.. Feb 03 07:18:40 how do i do that ?? Feb 03 07:19:22 jda2000 thanks Feb 03 07:19:31 jda2000: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=34233 Feb 03 07:20:05 kmicinski , Thanks! Feb 03 07:25:54 addy_c , I'm not aware of any way to get control during the install. Feb 03 07:26:21 addy_c , but I'm new. Feb 03 07:27:40 jda2000 , there is a way to chk if a file already exists in a specified location ? cant we use that as a work around ? Feb 03 07:30:23 addy_c I guess. Feb 03 07:35:10 jda2000 , http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2227604/is-there-on-install-event-in-android Feb 03 07:36:29 addy_c , cool! Feb 03 07:45:33 i dont think you can catch your own install intent though :) Feb 03 07:45:57 is it common for proguard to f*ckup references ? Feb 03 07:46:08 hm Feb 03 07:46:15 or am I special Feb 03 07:46:23 I think you're meant to do it during first run... but actually there is a post-install intent, I think Feb 03 07:46:33 proguard does all kinds of interesting things; sometimes it takes lots of messing with the config file to get stuff working Feb 03 07:46:58 thats cool then, I feel less special Feb 03 07:49:16 Leeds: what do you think is better for dev now, a n7 or n10 ? Feb 03 07:49:49 given the resolution/density trick, probably an n10 Feb 03 07:49:59 yeah Feb 03 07:50:02 g00s: the cool thing about N10 is that you can use adb to emulate many other displays Feb 03 07:50:20 romainguy: yeah, somebody just posted https://plus.google.com/107708120842840792570/posts/cz5TxuoNDfG Feb 03 07:50:28 i didn't know about it until now Feb 03 07:51:23 although I'd still prefer an n7 for my own use Feb 03 07:51:33 definitel Feb 03 07:51:35 definitely Feb 03 07:51:54 i think the n7 was getting a higher density display for i/o :) Feb 03 07:52:45 romainguy: do you any app to de-duplicate pictures (or any files) on your mac? Feb 03 07:53:10 forgot a word in there; this is a Cloze test :) Feb 03 07:53:50 g00s: Gemini Feb 03 07:53:54 \o/ Feb 03 07:54:01 its on sale :) Feb 03 07:54:52 thx Feb 03 07:55:11 meh, you can write your own in about 10 minutes Feb 03 07:55:34 g00s, http://marakana.com/forums/android/examples/63.html, i think this would help, what do you think ? Feb 03 07:55:51 Leeds: or buy one that already works Feb 03 07:56:34 romainguy: one review freaked me out tho, they said gemini considered some files identical when they weren't even the same size O.o Feb 03 07:56:45 bah Feb 03 07:56:51 ok, probably some idiot Feb 03 07:57:52 the other app i really like is daisydisk Feb 03 07:58:07 yep Feb 03 07:58:08 it's a good one Feb 03 07:58:30 esp. useful considering how OS X loves keeping around large files in places you can't even see in Finder Feb 03 07:58:45 Steam is pretty bad at cleaning after itself Feb 03 07:59:11 a couple of times i wound up with 0 bytes free, all shit broke loose. some system management script wasn't running Feb 03 07:59:26 i only have a 250g HD, but usually 80% free :/ Feb 03 08:00:50 crap, 16gb n10 is $400. i can get a camera for that. this is a major decision :| Feb 03 08:01:15 i was hoping 300/350 Feb 03 08:01:33 $400 is pretty cheap considering the hardware in that thing Feb 03 08:04:29 romainguy: do you know what happened to android@home? they were going to use 6LoWPAN which is something i'm very interested in Feb 03 08:05:05 but that was 2011 Feb 03 08:06:30 the Android bulb was using 6LowPAN Feb 03 08:10:47 i'm kinda pissed that Jakob Nielsen's "Mobile Usability" uses the Kindle Fire as the android representative in the tablet studies Feb 03 08:13:02 hey guys, I'm using this library: http://loopj.com/android-async-http/ and I'm trying to figure out how to block my outer task until the onSuccess of the JsonHttpResponseHandler is called Feb 03 08:13:25 do I need to use a semaphore? Feb 03 08:13:51 or something like that... I recall there being something just for this purpose Feb 03 08:14:22 is that lib even worth it? is it so hard to do this on another thread :/ Feb 03 08:15:05 its persistentCookieStorage thing is useful, and it does do some abstraction for me Feb 03 08:15:10 I think I will need to use a semaphore for this Feb 03 08:15:20 stores cookies in the preferences ? Feb 03 08:15:25 is that nasty ? Feb 03 08:18:52 I don't know, you tell me? Feb 03 08:18:56 seems to work for me... Feb 03 08:19:55 use it until your requirements outgrow its functionality Feb 03 08:21:47 for interest's sake, what would I do after that point? Feb 03 08:22:22 depends on what the requirements are that it couldn't satisfy Feb 03 08:22:59 also, I'm honestly not liking this idea of needing to use a semaphore and manual thread sleeping to actually get the information out of these asynchronous methods... Is there any way I can make them block? Feb 03 08:23:19 I guess "not using that library" would be a good one... Feb 03 08:24:06 why are you blocking for the result? seems counter intuitive given the fact that the library's main purpose is asynchrony Feb 03 08:25:04 Good point... I'll have a rethink Feb 03 08:25:06 w32stuxnet: you may be able to use CookieSyncManager Feb 03 08:25:24 webview uses it, but i think you can too Feb 03 08:26:10 I'm surprised Instagram and Pinterest use that library... Feb 03 08:59:01 damn.. I didn't expect the nexus 7 to have insane bugs like this Feb 03 08:59:07 it basically bricked itself Feb 03 08:59:54 well IF it was nothing you did/could have done, return it Feb 03 09:00:03 a known issue it appears, but the fixes I find don't work - I have a very hard time getting into the boot menu at all Feb 03 09:00:04 simples Feb 03 09:00:35 sure, I can claim warranty, esp. with the online reports of the issue Feb 03 09:00:53 online reports ? link ? Feb 03 09:01:31 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpse648gCcI <- It's in this state Feb 03 09:01:44 battery is completely flat and it dan't charge anymore in its current state Feb 03 09:02:20 not exactly a reported issue Feb 03 09:02:23 http://www.droid-life.com/2012/12/27/fix-nexus-7-refusing-to-charge-try-this-trick/ workaround that doesn't work for me Feb 03 09:02:28 as in 1 youtube vid Feb 03 09:02:54 "n fact, if you let your Nexus 7 die completely, you may run into a screen flashing or pixel party experience once plugged into a charger that won’t bring you joy. The device, at least mine and in others’ cases, won’t turn on with any combination of button pressing." Feb 03 09:03:27 iivvoo did you customise it in any way ? Feb 03 09:03:36 root ? rom ? anything ? Feb 03 09:03:41 no Feb 03 09:03:47 simple RMA then Feb 03 09:04:42 I know.. it's just disappoiting. I just bought the device two weeks ago Feb 03 09:05:08 I did enable developer options / usb debugging Feb 03 09:05:18 but that shouldn't make a difference Feb 03 09:08:34 nope Feb 03 09:08:46 but if you want to chat about it this isn't really the channel Feb 03 09:08:54 go vent on #xda-devs Feb 03 09:08:57 :) Feb 03 09:10:30 so.... apparently its now illegal to unlock/root your phones Feb 03 09:10:30 http://mashable.com/2013/01/23/unlocking-cellphones-illegal/ Feb 03 09:10:53 only in states Feb 03 09:10:55 :) Feb 03 09:11:20 and it's only illegal, not unlawful Feb 03 09:11:38 legality and the law, 2 very diff things Feb 03 09:11:43 StingRay_I know it's not - wasn't a support request, just a bit of whining and a warning to co-developers in general Feb 03 09:12:44 StingRay_: its still a step into the "wtfness" of the world and how the DCMA act can start prohibiting this Feb 03 09:12:56 looks like SOPA decided to reincarnate early Feb 03 09:13:07 at least the intentions behind sopa* Feb 03 09:13:52 trinity like i said, most of the time I have little to do with legality Feb 03 09:14:09 tis about jurisdiction Feb 03 09:16:46 StingRay_: from what i understand illegality is worse than unlawful Feb 03 09:17:03 trinity eww no Feb 03 09:17:08 it is unlawful to jaywalk but it is not expressly illegal, whereas it is illegal to sell crack Feb 03 09:17:22 law = murder, theft, harm = injured party Feb 03 09:17:41 legality = commercial statues etc Feb 03 09:17:47 eg no injured party Feb 03 09:18:10