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Feb 09 03:20:15 <yoonchee> What would be the best way to record audio/video from an android app?
Feb 09 03:22:29 <StingRay_> yoonchee: use the camera ?
Feb 09 03:23:25 <yoonchee> StingRay_: without using a camera to record the screen (for highest quality)
Feb 09 03:25:53 <infogulch> how do i add a dropdown list widget?
Feb 09 03:26:27 <StingRay_> yoonchee: oh now I get you
Feb 09 03:26:34 <infogulch> well where it pops up a selection menu
Feb 09 03:26:34 <StingRay_> you want to record the app
Feb 09 03:26:49 <yoonchee> right, i would like to create a video trailer for the app
Feb 09 03:26:50 <StingRay_> erm, emulator or some hdmi out + capture hardware
Feb 09 03:28:16 <yoonchee> hm that would be an option
Feb 09 03:31:14 <rcosta> is there any way to detect a device inactivity other than using Intent.ACTION_SCREEN_OFF?
Feb 09 03:31:32 <doomrobo> how else would it be inactive?
Feb 09 03:32:03 <rcosta> inactive as in no user interaction
Feb 09 03:32:11 <doomrobo> well that's most of the time
Feb 09 03:32:26 <rcosta> i'm looking for alternatives to ACTION_SCREEN_OFF
Feb 09 03:32:36 <doomrobo> so long as no button is being pressed and the screen isn't being touched that satisfies what you said
Feb 09 03:32:41 <StingRay_> rcosta: for when the screen is off ?
Feb 09 03:32:46 <StingRay_> there is no alternative
Feb 09 03:33:00 <StingRay_> suppose there maybe a dim action too
Feb 09 03:33:26 <StingRay_> but only if DIM is on, and I think it's a setting
Feb 09 03:33:30 <StingRay_> user setting
Feb 09 03:36:53 <StingRay_> rcosta: I think you should think about what it is your after and for what use
Feb 09 03:37:02 <StingRay_> then ask again
Feb 09 03:38:30 <rcosta> StingRay_: I know what I'm after, the idea is to develop a screensaver
Feb 09 03:38:38 <rcosta> which will play some videos
Feb 09 03:39:24 <StingRay_> hmmm
Feb 09 03:39:27 <rcosta> a screensaver is usually activated when screen goes off with the ACTION_SCREEN_OFF
Feb 09 03:39:57 <StingRay_> that will eat battery like mad I would imagine
Feb 09 03:40:30 <kevinb> Android 4.2 has "dreams" which are basically screen savers while the device is plugged in. third party apps can implement dreams
Feb 09 03:41:15 <rcosta> however, some devices allow you to define that screen should never turn off
Feb 09 03:41:39 <rcosta> for example, when USB connected
Feb 09 03:42:10 <rcosta> i want to understand which alternatives may I have to detect inactivity
Feb 09 03:42:50 <rcosta> rooting/using private APIs won't be a problem
Feb 09 03:47:25 <SpeedEvil> on a related matter.
Feb 09 03:47:46 <SpeedEvil> are third party lock screen widgets - 4.2 - available?
Feb 09 03:48:04 <infogulch> i've got a simple app with just a spinner, and i'm getting android.view.InflateException: Binary XML file Error inflating class android.widget.Spinner
Feb 09 03:49:01 <infogulch> the entries come from a menu resource
Feb 09 03:50:34 <shmooz> hi
Feb 09 03:50:36 <kevinb> SpeedEvil: yes
Feb 09 03:51:02 <shmooz> any good ideas for app ?
Feb 09 03:54:54 <StingRay_> shmooz: yes
Feb 09 03:56:08 <shmooz> StingRay_: what is it ?
Feb 09 03:56:20 <StingRay_> well I'm doing it
Feb 09 03:56:28 <StingRay_> will tell you when it's released
Feb 09 03:56:30 <StingRay_> :)
Feb 09 03:56:39 <StingRay_> I have a list of about 10
Feb 09 03:56:44 <StingRay_> i'm on the 1st atm
Feb 09 03:56:45 <StingRay_> :)
Feb 09 03:56:54 <shmooz> bah
Feb 09 03:56:58 <shmooz> just tell us
Feb 09 03:57:05 <StingRay_> us ?
Feb 09 03:57:11 <tona> how to send android file a windows explorer
Feb 09 03:57:11 <StingRay_> you mean you?
Feb 09 03:57:11 <SpeedEvil> I'd almost pay a small fee to get rid of the retarded 4.2 clock
Feb 09 03:57:44 <shmooz> well I need some good ideas to write my next app
Feb 09 03:58:02 <StingRay_> shmooz: so basically your asking people so you can steal their ideas ?
Feb 09 03:58:04 <StingRay_> nice
Feb 09 03:58:16 <shmooz> no, not steal
Feb 09 03:58:31 <StingRay_> "duplicate"   ;)
Feb 09 03:58:57 <shmooz> no, just talk about ideas of whats needed or what would be cool
Feb 09 03:59:11 <shmooz> what's missing
Feb 09 03:59:22 <SpeedEvil> shmooz: 'a timed brightness' plus 'screen filter' to make the screen dim at predefined times, to more than the hardware normally allows
Feb 09 03:59:22 <StingRay_> well what do you see as missing ?
Feb 09 04:00:10 <SpeedEvil> shmooz: lock screen flashlight widget
Feb 09 04:00:34 <shmooz> hmmm
Feb 09 04:00:40 <tona> how to send android file a windows explorer xp
Feb 09 04:01:06 <StingRay_> tona: you question makes no sense
Feb 09 04:01:38 <StingRay_> or maybe the answer is USB Mass Storage or MTP depending on your OS version
Feb 09 04:01:40 <rcosta> unless we are also drunk
Feb 09 04:01:56 <shmooz> tona you have to connect the two machines with a usb cable and choose 'disk drive' as connection type instead of 'charge only'
Feb 09 04:02:23 <tona> i want to send or transfer a file using socket and paste it directly c:\ folder windows explorer
Feb 09 04:02:56 <shmooz> sounds like a hack
Feb 09 04:03:30 <StingRay_> whast the best way to disable/capture and control dispatch of all touch events in an activity ?
Feb 09 04:04:12 <shmooz> SpeedEvil the lockscreen flashlight idea is good
Feb 09 04:05:12 <SpeedEvil> ideally I'd like it so you merely press the power button, and if the screen is downwards, turn the light on
Feb 09 04:05:32 <shmooz> good idea
Feb 09 04:05:40 <shmooz> it can be done
Feb 09 04:06:43 <SpeedEvil> and ideally if you must ad support it, a premium version with no internet permission or others
Feb 09 04:07:25 <shmooz> that way you can get the quickest access during unexpected darkouts
Feb 09 04:13:22 <azizLIGHTS> i flashed cwm through odin, and flashed su through cwm just now. do i have "busybox" ?
Feb 09 04:13:35 <azizLIGHTS> i got a galaxy note 1
Feb 09 04:15:29 <SpeedEvil> if you do do it,  can you pm me the name?
Feb 09 04:15:33 <shmooz> SpeedEvil: http://www.androidauthority.com/tiny-flashlight-flashlight-from-your-lock-screen-47038/
Feb 09 04:15:37 <tona> how can i send one file by ftp one server using android
Feb 09 04:17:32 <SpeedEvil> hmm
Feb 09 04:17:48 <SpeedEvil>  no ad free version
Feb 09 04:22:25 <shmooz> if we made a add free donation only version I wonder
Feb 09 04:42:24 <tona> how to i send one file into cell phone to pc explorer
Feb 09 05:09:05 <mdkess> How do you guys use the designer to design rows of ListViews? And following that question, is there any way to have the designer populate a ListView with dummy data so that I can see how it looks without running my app?
Feb 09 05:10:50 <StingRay_> mdkess: not sure what you mean with your 1st question, but as for the second, not aware of that feature but that wouldn't be too bad
Feb 09 05:11:17 <StingRay_> but since it's easy to view the item layout, guess we just have to use our minds to imagine duplicates
Feb 09 05:12:25 <mdkess> First question I just mean get the dimensions reasonable.
Feb 09 05:12:51 <StingRay_> well really the dimensions are based on both content and screen size
Feb 09 05:13:19 <StingRay_> so I just play till it looks correct
Feb 09 05:13:43 <StingRay_> and make sure it's dynamic enought to cope with diff screen configs/orientation
Feb 09 05:16:34 <mdkess> Alright, thanks.
Feb 09 05:53:13 <KillmeSoftly> i have an app that plays audio. When a user is listening to some audio on it I need the app to stay on when the user turns the screen to his/her device off or starts using a different app...how can this be accomplished"?
Feb 09 05:57:58 <StingRay_> service
Feb 09 06:10:58 <QubeZ> hello all
Feb 09 06:11:27 <KillmeSoftly> StingRay_ your my man... why did AbsoluteLayout get canned? and why is there no replacement...I know RelativeLayout is good, but what is the reasoning behind this?
Feb 09 06:12:01 <StingRay_> relative layout is better i guess
Feb 09 06:12:03 <QubeZ> To Do Mapr 1.7 is out... check it out: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.controlledsenility.android.todomapr
Feb 09 06:12:08 <StingRay_> more control yet maybe lighter
Feb 09 06:12:24 <QubeZ> KillmeSoftly: absolutelayout is horrible for accomodate for various screen sizes and densities
Feb 09 06:12:27 <QubeZ> its too static
Feb 09 06:13:03 <StingRay_> QubeZ dude you need to take the room echo outta the girls voice on your promo vid
Feb 09 06:13:07 <StingRay_> tis annoying
Feb 09 06:13:29 <QubeZ> StingRay_: hmm will make a note
Feb 09 06:13:37 <StingRay_> takes a few minutes to get right in something like audition
Feb 09 06:13:44 <KillmeSoftly> ok
Feb 09 06:14:07 <StingRay_> QubeZ: really nice vid and presentation but that audio
Feb 09 06:14:15 <StingRay_> needs to be sorted :)
Feb 09 06:14:18 <StingRay_> sort it
Feb 09 06:14:19 <StingRay_> now
Feb 09 06:14:20 <StingRay_> now
Feb 09 06:14:21 <StingRay_> !
Feb 09 06:14:34 <KillmeSoftly> still though...there is no reason why they should have completely canned it...
Feb 09 06:14:46 <QubeZ> I don't do that but I'll send it to my buddy
Feb 09 06:15:17 <QubeZ> KillmeSoftly: its not useful, you can do anything with relative layout, frame layout, linear layout etc..
Feb 09 06:15:39 <KillmeSoftly> yeah i know i know.. ok im done
Feb 09 06:15:39 <QubeZ> you can accomplish anything with the ones provided and so absolute is absolutely useless.... see what I did right there?
Feb 09 06:15:56 <KillmeSoftly> lol
Feb 09 06:16:05 <KillmeSoftly> nt rly
Feb 09 06:16:15 <QubeZ> hmm fail i guess
Feb 09 06:16:16 <QubeZ> heh
Feb 09 06:16:27 <g00s> QubeZ: are your todomapr screenshot up to date?
Feb 09 06:16:33 <QubeZ> g00s: yes
Feb 09 06:16:40 <g00s> i see a few things
Feb 09 06:16:48 <QubeZ> g00s: im open
Feb 09 06:16:59 <g00s> first, the 6-pack is passe :)
Feb 09 06:17:13 <g00s> put the user right into the most common task
Feb 09 06:17:21 <QubeZ> g00s: I know... we're going to redesign in 2.0
Feb 09 06:17:28 <g00s> ok
Feb 09 06:17:32 <QubeZ> we're looking to do something more like Strava Run app
Feb 09 06:17:40 <QubeZ> list-based, menu drawer style type thing
Feb 09 06:17:56 <QubeZ> and make the main screen the most useful thing but for now the Dashboard allows quick add of tasks
Feb 09 06:18:09 <QubeZ> g00s: but noted... what else do you see?
Feb 09 06:18:47 <QubeZ> im my own harshest critic so you wont hurt my feelings. All I care about is progress and quality.
Feb 09 06:18:52 <g00s> screen 2: your row headers are more lightweight than the first row of text; a typography thing. for example, "Ritchfield super target" is heavier than "No Due Date"
Feb 09 06:19:31 <g00s> screen 3: add to list & scan aren't standard button heights
Feb 09 06:19:36 <StingRay_> was gonna say that there is a LARGE inconsistency of colour and style between all screens
Feb 09 06:19:46 <QubeZ> g00s:  you think the row headers should have heavier weight?
Feb 09 06:20:26 <g00s> probably, where does the user's eye hop? probably row header first, then the correct row second
Feb 09 06:20:40 <g00s> this is graphics design, visual weight, typography
Feb 09 06:20:41 <QubeZ> g00s: *nod*, I been meaning to update those heights... lots of stuff to do still. I'll put that down, good suggestion.
Feb 09 06:21:08 <QubeZ> g00s: you're right
Feb 09 06:21:21 <g00s> the map: that transparent box has a caret thingy, is that meant to be a touch target ?
Feb 09 06:21:28 <QubeZ> I need to update some style code
Feb 09 06:21:46 <QubeZ> g00s: yes, to hide the details
Feb 09 06:21:54 <QubeZ> to hide distnace, fuel, time
Feb 09 06:21:59 <g00s> target needs tobe bigger, the standard 9mm or whatever
Feb 09 06:22:01 <QubeZ> its a bit small for touch target
Feb 09 06:22:19 <QubeZ> agreed
Feb 09 06:23:21 <g00s> otherwise looks nice :)
Feb 09 06:23:40 <QubeZ> g00s: thanks, I appreciate the feedback. So hard to get it on reviews.
Feb 09 06:23:56 <QubeZ> Reviews are usually "it works, thanks" or "it sucks, uninstalled!"
Feb 09 06:23:58 <g00s> honestly, i'm still using froyo so i don't really know what a good holo app should look/behave like, except for what the guidelines say
Feb 09 06:24:06 <QubeZ> although the latest review of the app was surprising... im happy about it
Feb 09 06:24:12 <g00s> congrats
Feb 09 06:24:26 <QubeZ> proximity tasks really made it so much more useful
Feb 09 06:24:35 <g00s> are you using ABS ?
Feb 09 06:24:35 <QubeZ> next build, Im adding a proximity map
Feb 09 06:24:39 <QubeZ> g00s: yes
Feb 09 06:24:50 <g00s> ok, well i don't see the standard left carat thingy
Feb 09 06:25:06 <g00s> is your navigation structure following guidelines ?
Feb 09 06:25:22 <QubeZ> g00s: I was deciding between using the Home button but not sure
Feb 09 06:25:44 <QubeZ> I'll probably add that, there are a ton of guidelines we're epically failing on here but it'll improve over time
Feb 09 06:25:52 <g00s> ok
Feb 09 06:26:28 <g00s> romainguy_: seems pretty cool http://www.gizmag.com/panasonic-micro-color-splitter/26165/
Feb 09 06:26:48 <romainguy_> that's pretty cool
Feb 09 06:26:51 <romainguy_> which reminds me
Feb 09 06:26:58 <romainguy_> I need to sell some gear...
Feb 09 06:28:32 <g00s> i'm guessing you're not selling your Leicas :)
Feb 09 06:29:09 <StingRay_> I have a 5dmk2 that I want rid of
Feb 09 06:29:27 <StingRay_> and few L's too
Feb 09 06:29:38 <StingRay_> L series*
Feb 09 06:30:21 <romainguy_> g00s: no, the Olympus OM-D EM-5 and some Canon stuff
Feb 09 06:31:00 <StingRay_> romainguy_: what canon stuff ?
Feb 09 06:31:11 <StingRay_> oh actually dont matter neways, your too far away
Feb 09 06:31:22 <romainguy_> StingRay_: 45mm TS, 24-105mm, maybe 85mm 1.2
Feb 09 06:31:42 <StingRay_> the 85 I wouldn't mind
Feb 09 06:32:04 <StingRay_> but like I say, too far
Feb 09 06:32:25 <romainguy_> I sent my 5D Mk II to Australia :)
Feb 09 06:32:32 <StingRay_> and the Queen doesn't skimp on raping you on imports here
Feb 09 06:33:16 <StingRay_> import charges*
Feb 09 06:33:53 <romainguy_> :)
Feb 09 06:34:42 <g00s> romainguy_: what was your reaction when you upgraded from the MKII to MKIII? Were you happy with the impovements?
Feb 09 06:35:16 <romainguy_> g00s: the autofocus is amazing
Feb 09 06:35:40 <g00s> ahh, dat yes
Feb 09 06:35:53 <romainguy_> g00s: better screen, better viewfinder
Feb 09 06:35:53 <StingRay_> wait that implies the 5dmk2 has autofocus
Feb 09 06:36:05 <romainguy_> but in a weird way I miss the Mk II
Feb 09 06:36:29 <g00s> i didn't get the impression that the sensor was all that different
Feb 09 06:36:38 <romainguy_> it is
Feb 09 06:36:59 <romainguy_> it's not a huge change but it renders a bit differently, especially noise
Feb 09 06:37:21 <romainguy_> but I hope to use the Leica M for landscape photography
Feb 09 06:37:25 <romainguy_> I just grabbed a 21mm
Feb 09 06:40:13 <g00s> if i could afford it some day, i hope to get a Mamiya 7 medium format
Feb 09 06:40:45 <StingRay_> g00s: why that over hass?
Feb 09 06:40:57 <StingRay_> played with a 645 once
Feb 09 06:41:01 <StingRay_> not a 7
Feb 09 06:41:19 <g00s> oh, i have only seen the results of one, and somebody was using it next to me i haven't been able to handle it
Feb 09 06:41:31 <g00s> the lenses seem amazing
Feb 09 06:41:41 <StingRay_> well my next cam purchase will be video
Feb 09 06:41:45 <romainguy_> g00s: Leica S lenses are even better
Feb 09 06:41:48 <StingRay_> the blackmagic one
Feb 09 06:42:06 <g00s> romainguy_: the build quality of the mamiya didn't seem … so great tho. dunno how to explain it
Feb 09 06:42:56 <g00s> i prefer a 1:1 or 4:3 aspect ratio
Feb 09 06:43:14 <romainguy_> I had an H3D 39 for a while
Feb 09 06:43:24 <romainguy_> it was amazing but I didn't like shooting with it
Feb 09 06:47:00 <Gavilan2> Can you create a web view from an html string, or do you need a file?
Feb 09 06:49:06 <g00s> romainguy_: i looked at a Nikon d3200 the other day (as my first dslr) ; seemed nice but … i couldn't get used to the UI; maybe i'm used to the canon UI. I like my C1/C2 - could not find that on the d3200
Feb 09 06:49:41 <romainguy_> g00s: then get a Canon
Feb 09 06:50:46 <azizLIGHTS> how do i go about updating cwm version?
Feb 09 06:50:50 <azizLIGHTS> oops sorry
Feb 09 06:50:52 <azizLIGHTS> wrong channel
Feb 09 07:00:25 <KillmeSoftly> so i'm using the youtube api for android in my app......how the hell can i get a search function to search for youtube videos
Feb 09 07:03:52 <g00s> romainguy: if you start using a Leica M for landscape, what will your MKIII find any more use ?
Feb 09 07:05:26 <KillmeSoftly> is there anyway to allow a user to move a fragment or view around freely?  for example say i display a dialogfragment that says whatever, is there anyway the user can "grab" that fragment by touuching it and move it around the activity?
Feb 09 07:06:19 <Tricknology> Hello, all.  I am having trouble passing a HashMap<String,Customt> between activities.  I made the object parcelable ,and then tried serializable, but the receiving activity is still getting null when getParcelableExtra is called.  I see in the debugger that there is a HashMap with the values I want inside it under mMap and parcel able is null.  Any ideas?
Feb 09 07:07:11 <JakeWharton> KillmeSoftly: if you implement that functionality yourself using the methods to move views around then yes
Feb 09 07:09:03 <g00s> Tricknology: i dont see any Intent.put(…) suitable for a Map
Feb 09 07:09:07 <JakeWharton> and it doesn't look like there's an API for search in your app
Feb 09 07:09:13 <Tricknology> I know, thats the weird thing
Feb 09 07:09:14 <JakeWharton> you can, however, delegate to the YouTube app: https://developers.google.com/youtube/android/player/reference/com/google/android/youtube/player/YouTubeIntents#canResolveSearchIntent(android.content.Context)
Feb 09 07:09:15 <Tricknology> but check this out
Feb 09 07:09:21 <Tricknology> 1 sec
Feb 09 07:09:44 <JakeWharton> you really should't be passing that much data through an intent
Feb 09 07:10:01 <g00s> if you try it, it will resolve to putExtra(String name, Serializable value) … probably
Feb 09 07:13:17 <Tricknology> http://i.imgur.com/tPEK25P.png
Feb 09 07:13:27 <mlaux> hi everyone
Feb 09 07:13:40 <mlaux> so, in this screenshot there are nice all-caps headers above each listview category:
Feb 09 07:13:41 <mlaux> http://cdn-static.zdnet.com/i/story/40/10/025057/android-ics-2.jpg
Feb 09 07:13:51 <mlaux> but i can't figure out how to put those in my app
Feb 09 07:14:00 <Tricknology> as you can see, parcelleddata is null, but the mMap has the hash map i want
Feb 09 07:14:01 <mlaux> is there a predefined android.R.layout for them?
Feb 09 07:14:27 <Tricknology> mlaux, no you have to make that custome
Feb 09 07:14:44 <Tricknology> unless they implemented that new list view in newer sdks
Feb 09 07:14:50 <mlaux> :(
Feb 09 07:14:51 <mlaux> alrighty
Feb 09 07:14:59 <Tricknology> you have to do it through a custom unflater
Feb 09 07:15:02 <Tricknology> inflater*
Feb 09 07:15:28 <mlaux> i'm already doing that for my listview entries so it shouldn't be too difficult
Feb 09 07:15:29 <mlaux> thanks
Feb 09 07:15:55 <Tricknology> yeah, jut make a new view and have your inflater throw that one in every time you want a new category
Feb 09 07:16:01 <Tricknology> or.. you can use extended listview
Feb 09 07:16:32 <StingRay_> Tricknology you using putSeri* or just putExtra ?
Feb 09 07:16:38 <Tricknology> putExtra
Feb 09 07:16:52 <StingRay_> your custom object implements seri*
Feb 09 07:16:53 <StingRay_> ?
Feb 09 07:17:26 <Tricknology> yes, that was an experiment
Feb 09 07:17:34 <StingRay_> use putSer* then and as long as you cast properly I dont see why it wont work, I have done things like that
Feb 09 07:18:23 <Tricknology> "i.putSer*"?
Feb 09 07:18:59 <StingRay_> sorry get
Feb 09 07:19:11 <StingRay_> <-- 07am been up all night
Feb 09 07:19:34 <StingRay_> extras.getSerializable("");
Feb 09 07:19:42 <Tricknology> cool, trying now, thanks
Feb 09 07:19:48 <Tricknology> casting to hashmap
Feb 09 07:19:52 <StingRay_> cast it properly and should work
Feb 09 07:20:15 <StingRay_> (HashMap<String,myObj>)extras.getSerializable("stringtag");
Feb 09 07:22:42 <Tricknology> you sir. are the shiznit
Feb 09 07:22:50 <Tricknology> thanks. I've been trying to figure that out for sooo long
Feb 09 07:22:50 <QubeZ> why not use Parcelable?
Feb 09 07:22:54 <Tricknology> i tried
Feb 09 07:23:04 <Tricknology> it was showing up in mMap instead of parceable
Feb 09 07:23:09 <QubeZ> hmm
Feb 09 07:23:16 <Tricknology> but this works just fine.
Feb 09 07:23:21 <QubeZ> k
Feb 09 07:23:35 <Tricknology> when would parcel able be superior
Feb 09 07:23:36 <Tricknology> ?
Feb 09 07:23:46 <g00s> compared to what
Feb 09 07:23:53 <Tricknology> serializable
Feb 09 07:23:56 <g00s> always
Feb 09 07:24:11 <g00s> well, never say always, but almost always ;)
Feb 09 07:24:18 <Tricknology> how so?
Feb 09 07:24:28 <Tricknology> can you give an example please?
Feb 09 07:24:38 <g00s> the reasons why … go back very far
Feb 09 07:24:47 <JakeWharton> faster
Feb 09 07:24:51 <JakeWharton> more efficient pack format
Feb 09 07:24:59 <JakeWharton> java serialization is stupid, stupid, stupid
Feb 09 07:25:00 <JakeWharton> avoid at all costs
Feb 09 07:25:09 <Tricknology> lol ok
Feb 09 07:25:24 <QubeZ> I use Parcelable to package up my custom objects to pass around activities
Feb 09 07:25:25 <Tricknology> but i tried to use the parcel able and i was still receiving null in B
Feb 09 07:25:30 <JakeWharton> but, as I said before, you really shouldn't be passing immense chunks of data through intents
Feb 09 07:25:43 <Tricknology> how should it be done/
Feb 09 07:25:49 <Tricknology> it's only about 5 doubles
Feb 09 07:25:57 <kj4> I wanna be a dev
Feb 09 07:25:59 <JakeWharton> that's not too bad
Feb 09 07:26:06 <g00s> kj4: me too!
Feb 09 07:26:15 <JakeWharton> you should put them somewhere accessible to both activities and then put a hint in the intent
Feb 09 07:26:24 <kj4> now now now
Feb 09 07:26:25 <Tricknology> aah I've done that
Feb 09 07:26:28 <Tricknology> like sqldatabase
Feb 09 07:26:31 <Tricknology> is that faster?
Feb 09 07:26:41 <JakeWharton> when I tell you to read a book I don't speak the entire text to you, i just say hey go look at book XYZ
Feb 09 07:27:01 <QubeZ> sql might be overkill for the 5 doubles
Feb 09 07:27:25 <g00s> maybe just make a parcelable holder that holds the 5 doubles :P
Feb 09 07:27:25 <Tricknology> on so maybe sharedprefs
Feb 09 07:27:37 <Tricknology> like a hashmap
Feb 09 07:27:38 <QubeZ> no, too much i/o for no reason
Feb 09 07:27:44 <Tricknology> it gets really messy
Feb 09 07:27:47 <Tricknology> trust me
Feb 09 07:27:56 <Tricknology> thats why i want a hash map of objects
Feb 09 07:28:11 <QubeZ> Tricknology: why not just create a class with 5 doubles then create an object from that class, initialize the doubles and Parcelable that
Feb 09 07:28:13 <Tricknology> objects hold a handful of doubles, then i can just get/set them
Feb 09 07:28:23 <Tricknology> i am :) thanks to the serializable
Feb 09 07:28:31 <QubeZ> I do that in my GeocodedCoordinates class which has 2 Strings and 2 doubles
Feb 09 07:28:42 <QubeZ> Tricknology: you're missing the point... point being use Parceable :)
Feb 09 07:28:47 <Tricknology> we'll, the parcel able didn't work out too well for me :(
Feb 09 07:28:54 <Tricknology> sry, autocorrect..
Feb 09 07:29:02 <QubeZ> Tricknology: so giving up and using something less efficient is the way to go?
Feb 09 07:29:06 <QubeZ> come on dude
Feb 09 07:29:13 <Tricknology> no way, QubeZ
Feb 09 07:29:17 <g00s> hehe
Feb 09 07:29:25 <g00s> kick his ass QubeZ
Feb 09 07:29:26 <Tricknology> if you can show me why mine isn't working then that would be sweet, i'll use that
Feb 09 07:29:40 <QubeZ> Tricknology: show us the code and we'll help
Feb 09 07:30:36 <Tricknology> http://pastebin.com/sk9Dk0F9
Feb 09 07:30:37 <Tricknology> thanks
Feb 09 07:30:45 <Tricknology> that is the custom object
Feb 09 07:31:24 <QubeZ> k peeking
Feb 09 07:31:28 <JakeWharton> if they're just doubles why are you not just setting them as doubles on the intent with different keys?
Feb 09 07:31:48 <Tricknology> como?
Feb 09 07:32:00 <Tricknology> i made the vars public out of laziness, instead of using getters and setters
Feb 09 07:32:18 <romainguy> also, use double, not Double
Feb 09 07:32:21 <Tricknology> i don't always, just this case doesn't matter because the values are short lived
Feb 09 07:32:31 <Tricknology> i was thinking i might want to use null sometime
Feb 09 07:32:55 <QubeZ> Tricknology: ya what Jake said, you're overcomplicating this
Feb 09 07:32:56 <Tricknology> if null then calculate.. instead of using something like -9999999999
Feb 09 07:33:05 <QubeZ> use different keys for your doubles and put in the intent
Feb 09 07:33:31 <kj4> what do I need to learn first? C?
Feb 09 07:33:41 <Tricknology> java :)
Feb 09 07:34:06 <QubeZ> Tricknology: .putExtra("cv", myVal); .putExtra("gamma", myGammaVal);
Feb 09 07:34:06 <JakeWharton> Java
Feb 09 07:34:07 <QubeZ> ...
Feb 09 07:34:37 <Tricknology> ok.. but won't that make the code kind of nasty on the receiving end?
Feb 09 07:34:42 <Tricknology> i just want a nice package
Feb 09 07:34:46 <JakeWharton> and put the keys as static final String constants accessible in both places
Feb 09 07:34:58 <kj4> I herd that's not a good first language
Feb 09 07:35:08 <JakeWharton> kj4: only one way to find out
Feb 09 07:35:16 <Tricknology> in the end i want a hash map of initial and final values, i want this because there might be intermediate values i1, i2, i3..
Feb 09 07:35:20 <romainguy> Tricknology: you can also create a method that creates an instance of your object from a bundle
Feb 09 07:35:36 <Tricknology> romain, i like that
Feb 09 07:35:48 <QubeZ> Tricknology: so your Parcelable class looks fine except for the non-initializing in the Constructor... but now how do you instantiate the object, initialize it and pass in the data via Intent.... can you show that code?
Feb 09 07:37:16 <Tricknology> like so: http://pastebin.com/DbFaNSme
Feb 09 07:38:44 <QubeZ> Tricknology: isn't it suppose to be a putParcelableExtra?
Feb 09 07:38:51 <QubeZ> or something similar
Feb 09 07:38:56 <Tricknology> maybe that's it!!!
Feb 09 07:38:59 <Tricknology> i just putExtra
Feb 09 07:39:08 <Tricknology> *forehead slap*
Feb 09 07:39:21 <Tricknology> err.. facepalm
Feb 09 07:39:50 <Tricknology> ash only likes putParcelableArrayList()
Feb 09 07:40:05 <Tricknology> *Extra
Feb 09 07:41:04 <QubeZ> I think you're right so far... how are you getting it in the other activity?
Feb 09 07:41:43 <Tricknology> i wasn't until stringray suggested serializable
Feb 09 07:41:50 <QubeZ> Values values = (Values) getIntent.getExtras().getParcelable("initialvalues");
Feb 09 07:41:56 <Tricknology> ooh
Feb 09 07:42:10 <QubeZ> or rather...
Feb 09 07:42:15 <QubeZ> Values values = (Values) getIntent.getExtras().getParcelable("initial_values");
Feb 09 07:42:38 <Tricknology> initial_values = (Values)getIntent().getExtras().getParcelableExtra("initial_values");
Feb 09 07:43:09 <Tricknology> oops
Feb 09 07:43:14 <Tricknology> initial_values = (Values)getIntent().getExtras().getParcelable("initial_values");
Feb 09 07:43:42 <QubeZ> *nod*
Feb 09 07:43:50 <Tricknology> either that way or through bundle, same thing
Feb 09 07:44:00 <QubeZ> null?
Feb 09 07:44:07 <Tricknology> parcel able is null in the bundle
Feb 09 07:44:15 <Tricknology> like so:http://imgur.com/tPEK25P
Feb 09 07:44:30 <Tricknology> in this instance i was trying to pass a hash map<String,Values>
Feb 09 07:47:15 <QubeZ> you should change your Double to double as romainguy suggested in that Values class
Feb 09 07:48:16 <Tricknology> even if i wasn't to test flu null?
Feb 09 07:48:19 <Tricknology> for*
Feb 09 07:48:29 <Tricknology> its a calculator of sorts, it solves for the missing values
Feb 09 07:48:50 <Tricknology> and it works now :) magic
Feb 09 07:49:12 <QubeZ> works?
Feb 09 07:49:38 <Tricknology> ..with values as the object being parceled.  I'm going to try it with a HashMap<String,Values> now
Feb 09 07:49:47 <Tricknology> activity B is receiving the data
Feb 09 07:49:50 <Udmurt> Hi! I've using SimonVT numberpicker backport with ABS, on 4.* it shows normal, but on 2.* it's black with glitches. My theme descendant from Theme.Sherlock.Light and values for picker taken from example. How to fix it?
Feb 09 07:50:08 <Tricknology> Bundle b = intent.getExtras();
Feb 09 07:50:08 <Tricknology> 		 initial_values = (Values)b.getParcelable("initial_values");
Feb 09 07:50:21 <QubeZ> Tricknology: ya
Feb 09 07:50:50 <Tricknology> i was using getParcelableExtra i believe
Feb 09 07:51:29 <QubeZ> There is no getParcelableExtra method
Feb 09 07:53:39 <QubeZ> anyhow glad it's working
Feb 09 07:53:42 <QubeZ> im out
Feb 09 07:55:12 <g00s> gnight QubeZ
Feb 09 07:55:41 <QubeZ> night, thanks for the suggestions. I added to the laundry list
Feb 09 07:55:46 <g00s> ;)
Feb 09 07:56:09 <Tricknology> thank you thank you.
Feb 09 07:56:56 <QubeZ> anytime, helping users avoid Serializable -- one person at a time
Feb 09 07:56:57 <QubeZ> =)
Feb 09 07:57:14 <Tricknology> :D
Feb 09 07:57:15 <Gavilan2> QubeZ: why's that?
Feb 09 07:57:25 <QubeZ> Gavilan2: google it
Feb 09 07:57:39 <Tricknology> you are passing all the data instead an address to the data
Feb 09 08:42:38 <VitamnP> Hi, I'm having some trouble filling a listview with wifi info... (beginner)
Feb 09 08:42:39 <VitamnP> http://bpaste.net/show/gh9LlxWfrOaamEIU4qKk/
Feb 09 08:42:53 <VitamnP> could someone please take a look at my codee and tell me why it crashes?
Feb 09 08:43:50 <VitamnP> it compiles fine etc
Feb 09 08:44:26 <karlsve> whats the stacktrace?
Feb 09 08:46:00 <VitamnP> @Trinity: I don't get one.. just "Unfortuantely, MainActivity has stopped" on my phone when I run it
Feb 09 08:46:13 <VitamnP> i mean @karlsve
Feb 09 08:46:47 <karlsve> VitamnP: so you dont get any logcat output or similar things?
Feb 09 08:49:38 <VitamnP> um no
Feb 09 08:49:42 <VitamnP> don't seem to
Feb 09 08:51:58 <karlsve> VitamnP: thats weird there should be some kind of output telling you what caused the crash
Feb 09 08:53:22 <VitamnP> ahh OK I've discovered ddms
Feb 09 08:55:18 <VitamnP> aha, no permission to access wifi state
Feb 09 08:55:36 <VitamnP> @karlsve thanks
Feb 09 08:55:52 <karlsve> VitamnP: ^^ exactly what i thought
Feb 09 08:56:22 <VitamnP> @karlsve still getting my head around some of the tools..... apologies for silly question
Feb 09 08:56:48 <karlsve> VitamnP: no problem always a pleasure to be of any help
Feb 09 09:33:05 <zzattack> is something like TypedArray a = context.obtainStyledAttributes(attrs, new int { android.R.attr.text }, 0, 0); supposed to work?
Feb 09 09:33:17 <zzattack> after this call the subsequent a.getString(android.R.attr.text) throws an ArrayIndexOutOfBounds
Feb 09 09:34:21 <SimonVT> It's a.getString(0)
Feb 09 09:35:48 <SimonVT> Usually you'd do obtainStyledAttributes(attrs, R.styleable.SomeStyleable, 0, 0); and a.getString(R.styleable.SomeStyleable_someAttribute), where R.styleable.SomeStyleable is an array, and R.styleable.SomeStyleable_someAttribute is an array index
Feb 09 09:36:20 <prometheus_pk> if take System.currentTimeInMillis() and then use it in the constructor of Date why does it show me a time different than the phone?
Feb 09 09:36:32 <prometheus_pk> I also noticed the time returned isn't UTC
Feb 09 09:37:05 <prometheus_pk> I also use Date to init a GregorianCalendar object
Feb 09 09:39:32 <zzattack> SimonVT: right, let me put the entire question differently. Is it possible to obtain the styled attributes for both android defined attributes as well as custom ones?
Feb 09 09:40:14 <zzattack> I'm trying to do so by making an array out of R.styleable.MyCustomView and adding the specific android:* attributes I need
Feb 09 09:40:25 <SimonVT> Just add them to your xml definition
Feb 09 09:40:35 <SimonVT> <attr name="android:text" />
Feb 09 09:40:35 <zzattack> after the obtainStyledAttributes a.getString(R.styleable.MyCustomView_someStringAttribute); works just fine
Feb 09 09:40:50 <SimonVT> R.styleable.SomeStyleable_android_text
Feb 09 09:41:23 <zzattack> aha right
Feb 09 09:41:50 <zzattack> so in my declare-stylable I add a <attr name="android:text" format="string" /> then?
Feb 09 09:42:22 <SimonVT> No, not format="string"
Feb 09 09:42:25 <SimonVT> Just what I wrote
Feb 09 09:42:50 <zzattack> then the resource generator wouldn't add them
Feb 09 09:43:03 <zzattack> there is no R.stylable.MyCustomView_android_text
Feb 09 09:44:10 <SimonVT> You just add <attr name="android:text" /> to your declare-styleable
Feb 09 09:44:14 <SimonVT> No format
Feb 09 09:45:35 <zzattack> ah
Feb 09 09:54:24 <marrrk> Hey! I want to draw a drop shadow with "Paint" how would I go about this?
Feb 09 10:00:15 <zzattack> thank you SimonVT. one more question: is there any reference as to how this should be done?
Feb 09 10:00:33 <zzattack> javadocs for obtainStyledATtributes are severely lacking here imho
Feb 09 10:00:41 <SimonVT> Eh, no idea :p
Feb 09 10:01:43 <SimonVT> Just spend some time playing around with it
Feb 09 10:01:49 <SimonVT> Look at how the framework classes handles it
Feb 09 10:02:00 <SimonVT> It's pretty simple really
Feb 09 10:06:59 <krotos> goodmorning all
Feb 09 10:08:06 <krotos> i've made an app that use acs 122u rfid reader connected to a usb host. each time that i run the app it ask me the permission to use usb host . There is some way to bypass this?
Feb 09 10:14:28 <marrrk> OK then maybe somebody knows how to draw a border in a canvas. Like a not filled out shape
Feb 09 10:17:52 <Tricknology> I love you guys
Feb 09 10:17:53 <spobat> what the heck are those guys on facebook doing? Those EXTRA_TEXT intent extra-bug is there now for months.
Feb 09 10:17:55 <Tricknology> all of you
Feb 09 10:18:27 <Tricknology> now write my code for me, minions
Feb 09 10:18:32 <Chainfire> krotos> the popup should allow you to use your app for that device always ?
Feb 09 10:19:10 <Chainfire> krotos> there's no way to do it always programmatically, unless you have root
Feb 09 10:23:48 <Tricknology> anyone know how to handle sig figs?
Feb 09 10:23:56 <Tricknology> and is it tedious...
Feb 09 10:31:14 <marrrk> Alright then. How do I do animation on a value in Canvas?
Feb 09 10:32:06 <SimonVT> Invalidate your view, draw the new value
Feb 09 10:32:53 <Vaidas>  hello. Could you suggest me some good learning material/examples on creating a service that broadcasts messages via sendbroadcast() ?
Feb 09 10:35:11 <marrrk> SimonVT: how to wait in between?
Feb 09 10:35:29 <krotos> Chainfire: when my app star, ask me to use usb host . If i check the box it not ask to me untill i reboot
Feb 09 10:35:39 <krotos> Chainfire: i'm working on a MK-802 II
Feb 09 10:36:48 <krotos> i've alredy tried to put my apk into system/app (in order to become a system app ) but nothing changed
Feb 09 10:36:50 <marrrk> SimonVT: What type of animation would I be using? It seems like most are for views.
Feb 09 10:37:20 <SimonVT> marrrk: You could just use a Handler, post a Runnable every x ms that invalidates your view
Feb 09 10:37:39 <marrrk> post?
Feb 09 10:39:57 <marrrk> I don't understand
Feb 09 10:42:40 <marrrk> Can you say it different words please?
Feb 09 10:43:49 <krotos> Chainfire: if i obtain root access, what's the procedure for bypass this?
Feb 09 10:43:51 <SimonVT> postOnAnimation(new Runnable() { @Override public void run() { invalidate(); }});, postDelayed on older platforms
Feb 09 10:44:39 <marrrk> do you think the overhead of that runnable is acceptable for a simple toggle switch?
Feb 09 10:44:48 <Ge0rG> what is the best way to communicate from a service to a background thread, asynchronously, without implementing your own message passing interface?
Feb 09 10:45:28 <spobat> in my sdk, where can I find the button-xml's?
Feb 09 10:45:29 <SimonVT> What do you mean?
Feb 09 10:45:34 <spobat> and the .9.pngs for the buttons
Feb 09 10:46:59 <marrrk> I mean what I'm trying to do is copy the iOS toggle button. It has a nice eased animation of the circle (handle) when you click and when you stop dragging to whichever side is nearest. I thought that maybe for such a small interface element doing that Runnable might be overkill, but I don't have any arguments rather than intuition.
Feb 09 10:47:41 <spobat> SimonVT, do you know what I mean?
Feb 09 10:47:47 <spobat> I think the solution is pretty simple, though :S
Feb 09 10:48:05 <spobat> in sdk-root/sources there aren't any *re*sources :s
Feb 09 10:48:08 <SimonVT> I don't see what overhead you're talking about
Feb 09 10:48:08 <spobat> (which I would need)
Feb 09 10:48:22 <marrrk> I thought a runnable was a new thread.
Feb 09 10:48:30 <SimonVT> Thread is a new Thread
Feb 09 10:48:38 <SimonVT> Runnable is just an interface with a run() method
Feb 09 10:48:57 <marrrk> Actually also I just saw there is a function that is called: postInvalidateOnAnimation(); do you think that does the same?
Feb 09 10:49:40 <SimonVT> You need to invalidate more than once
Feb 09 10:49:49 <SimonVT> And you also need to calculate the handles new position
Feb 09 10:50:03 <marrrk> Yes okay so that all goes into that inner Runnable class?
Feb 09 10:50:31 <marrrk> I still have no idea on how I would initiate the animation though.
Feb 09 10:51:35 <SimonVT> You should probably look at some class that already does some animation
Feb 09 10:53:25 <marrrk> Yes I would like to but there are so many kinds of animations, that's why I don't know where to start.
Feb 09 10:54:37 <marrrk> ValueAnimator looks good
Feb 09 10:54:37 <zzattack> SimonVT: another thing, the layout for my custom view looks like a <LinearLayout style="@style/something"><TextView /><Button />, but it appears the inflated layout doesn't honor my style. is this expected and if so how do I get around it?
Feb 09 10:55:26 <SimonVT> Here's how I animate an indicator between two positions: https://github.com/SimonVT/android-menudrawer/blob/dev/library/src/net/simonvt/menudrawer/MenuDrawer.java#L599
Feb 09 10:56:15 <SimonVT> I basically just save the start/end position, and calculate a float offset every frame
Feb 09 10:56:20 <marrrk> thanks
Feb 09 10:57:41 <SimonVT> zzattack: No, child views should honor the style
Feb 09 10:58:05 <marrrk> SimonVT: Does that use the AccelerateDecelerateInterpolator? Or does it move linearly?
Feb 09 10:58:13 <zzattack> well the custom view extends LinearLayout
Feb 09 11:00:43 <SimonVT> marrrk: No, it uses a custom interpolator
Feb 09 11:00:58 <marrrk> Okay, I'm still trying to figure it out
Feb 09 11:04:24 <SimonVT> Just take it one step at a time. Create some methods that keep posting until a Scroller is done
Feb 09 11:05:20 <SimonVT> Then you can worry about actually animating something
Feb 09 11:12:24 <zzattack> SimonVT: should <CustomControl style="@style/something" /> with no style attribute of the root element of the layout used for CustomControl render different than when using <CustomControl /> with the root element of CustomControl having that same style attribute?
Feb 09 11:13:36 <SimonVT> that made no sense to me
Feb 09 11:14:06 <zzattack> let me rety. I have a custom view that inflates a layout.
Feb 09 11:14:39 <zzattack> I instantiate this custom view using xml in an activity
Feb 09 11:15:21 <zzattack> very often I had a pattern <LinearLayout>button + textview inside</LinearLayout>, each of those elements using a style attribute
Feb 09 11:15:52 <zzattack> I got bored of this and decided I wanted to replace these LinearLayouts with a custom composite kind of view holding exactly the same
Feb 09 11:16:20 <zzattack> so I copied the whole <LinearLayout /> block to a single layout file which I inflate in my custom view
Feb 09 11:16:56 <zzattack> most of that seems to wokr, except the dimensions of my custom view appear to be different than when using the <LinearLayout> block
Feb 09 11:17:45 <SimonVT> That'd depend on what you do in your custom view then
Feb 09 11:17:58 <zzattack> should I paste some actual stuff?
Feb 09 11:18:02 <SimonVT> if your custom view extends LinearLayout, and contains nothing but a few constructors, it's going to look exactly the same
Feb 09 11:18:13 <zzattack> thats what I thought
Feb 09 11:18:20 <zzattack> but it's not what I'm seeing :)
Feb 09 11:18:26 <SimonVT> So you're doing something different since you switched
Feb 09 11:20:43 <zzattack> I guess so.. http://pastebin.com/
Feb 09 11:20:46 <zzattack> ugh
Feb 09 11:21:01 <zzattack> http://pastebin.com/T0W95ebA
Feb 09 11:21:54 <tarelerulz> I want to install my first hello world app on my android phone  ,but   there is no serial number  , ect ,but the device shows up
Feb 09 11:23:23 <zzattack> SimonVT: the result looks like this https://www.dropbox.com/s/snc5nrixxmn4igs/2013-02-09%2012.20.24.png
Feb 09 11:23:55 <zzattack> (I copied the style applied to the root layout and gave them a different background, to confirm the style is actually used)
Feb 09 11:24:35 <lasserix> tarelerulz: make sure you have in settings install non-market souces and enabled usb debugging
Feb 09 11:24:46 <zzattack> the top-left button is instantiated using <CustomView />, the other ones are the 'old' <LinearLayout><Button /><TextView /></LinearLayout> blocks
Feb 09 11:24:48 <lasserix> i get that problem too, when my cord is not quite connected
Feb 09 11:33:52 <SimonVT> zzattack: make sure your custom class has the same layoutparams as the linearlayout used to
Feb 09 11:34:09 <zzattack> how would I do that?
Feb 09 11:34:24 <SimonVT> Check what layoutparams it has, set the same ones on your custom class
Feb 09 11:34:34 <zzattack> I did that
Feb 09 11:34:37 <SimonVT> In xml, layoutparams are pre-fixed layout_
Feb 09 11:35:16 <zzattack> I put the  layout_width, layout_heigth and layout_weight in the style that is inherited
Feb 09 11:35:19 <SimonVT> You don't need the LinearLayout in the layout you inflate in your custom view
Feb 09 11:35:26 <zzattack> really?
Feb 09 11:35:28 <SimonVT> Just use the merge tag
Feb 09 11:35:32 <zzattack> aha
Feb 09 11:35:32 <zzattack> thanks
Feb 09 11:35:50 <zzattack> so merge is really like a dummy so that I dont need multiple root elements?
Feb 09 11:35:58 <SimonVT> Also, don't do this: ((Activity)getContext())
Feb 09 11:36:18 <zzattack> yeah I've seen this LayoutInflater.from
Feb 09 11:37:21 <SimonVT> You should just be able to call inflate(context, R.layout.blah, this)
Feb 09 11:37:44 <zzattack> aha
Feb 09 11:39:06 <zzattack> can I just specify the style attribute on the merge tag?
Feb 09 11:39:26 <SimonVT> no
Feb 09 11:39:33 <SimonVT> You'd put that on your custom view, wouldn't you
Feb 09 11:39:38 <SimonVT> Since it's replacing the linearlayout
Feb 09 11:40:09 <zzattack> right but theres no xml for that?
Feb 09 11:40:50 <marrrk> Very good. So the animation works the only thing I'm missing now is shadow and stroke
Feb 09 11:42:10 <Beket> Hi folks! I've been coding stuff for 2.x, but now I decided to try 4.x with tabs, swipes, and all that hipsterish stuff. I'm a little bit at loss. Do I need 1 activity fro every section in fragment pager adapter ?
Feb 09 11:45:03 <Peetz0r> Hi! I have a layout-w800dp/main_activity.xml (for tablets) which looks like <LinearLayout><include layout="@layout/include_left"><include layout="@layout/include_right"></LinearLayout>. I want to create a PagerTabStrip for smaller devices but if I do so all my findViewById()'s start failing.
Feb 09 11:47:56 <Ge0rG> what is the best way to communicate from a service to a background thread, asynchronously, without implementing your own message passing interface?
Feb 09 11:51:47 <Styler2go> good morning
Feb 09 11:56:58 <pragma-> ndk documentation sucks
Feb 09 11:57:34 <pragma-> they don't even mention `include $(BUILD_EXECUTABLE)`
Feb 09 11:57:42 <pragma-> nor anything else that is useful
Feb 09 12:08:40 <Peetz0r> Hi! I have a layout-w800dp/main_activity.xml (for tablets) which looks like <LinearLayout><include layout="@layout/include_left"><include layout="@layout/include_right"></LinearLayout>. I want to create a PagerTabStrip for smaller devices but if I do so all my findViewById()'s start failing.
Feb 09 12:14:55 <[1]chris> hello everybody! is here somebody from germany who has experience with tax-settings for germany (in google merchant center)?
Feb 09 12:16:20 <[1]chris> in the settings i can only set the taxes for USA, but i need it for germany! i've been searching for about an hour but didn't find a way of doing it
Feb 09 12:16:41 <[1]chris> can somebody help, please? i'm getting crazy...
Feb 09 12:18:47 <lasserix> Beket: no
Feb 09 12:20:28 <Beket> ok.. so where do I call setContentView()
Feb 09 12:20:39 <Beket> to show the contents of layout xml inside a section of the pager
Feb 09 12:28:35 <lasserix> the activity calls setContentView
Feb 09 12:29:05 <lasserix> usu in onCreate
Feb 09 12:30:02 <Beket> ok, but how do I change the content of the tab in the pager ?
Feb 09 12:30:30 <lasserix> i am not sure i follow
Feb 09 12:30:50 <Beket> when the user swipes the tab, how do I update the contents ?
Feb 09 12:31:00 <lasserix> the tab? you mean on the action bar?
Feb 09 12:31:32 <Beket> never mind, I probably don't know the terms yet. I'll just google it. Thanks
Feb 09 12:31:36 <lasserix> you need to implement FragmentPagerAdapter
Feb 09 12:31:47 <lasserix> in getItem, you return the fragment you need
Feb 09 12:32:13 <lasserix> note: tab usually refers to a widget that is usually (for 4.0 and up) part of the action bar's navigation
Feb 09 12:32:19 <lasserix> i think you meant "page"?
Feb 09 12:32:26 <Beket> ah probably, yeh, sorry for the confusion
Feb 09 12:32:31 <lasserix> no worries
Feb 09 12:32:56 <lasserix> there is a combination of a view pager with fragments and the action bar tab's to indicate which page you are swiped too on the tab
Feb 09 12:33:03 <lasserix> which is why i was confused
Feb 09 12:33:51 <Styler2go> haha i have remade my complete app and my app is 900kb big.. the old version was over 4mb :D
Feb 09 12:54:04 <Styler2go> is there a way to sore app data somewhere where the user cant see the files?
Feb 09 12:54:43 <Styler2go> i want to save images that the user dont need to reload them everytime. but the images should not be in the gallery for example
Feb 09 13:05:18 <Styler2go> no way to do that?
Feb 09 13:10:19 <Daani> is it possible to set padding inside a button between text and a possible drawable set to left? I need to do this in code
Feb 09 13:10:38 <Daani> for a texview there is a setdrawablepadding but not for the button
Feb 09 13:12:53 <yellowturtle> hey everyone - where do I start looking for bugs if I register for proximity alerts but my onreive() is never called? the app receives my location updates correctly
Feb 09 13:15:05 <misterli> manifest. Check your Permissions
Feb 09 13:15:46 <yellowturtle> misterli: thanks, I request ACCESS_FINE_LOCATION and ACCESS_COARSE_LOCATION - that should be enough, right?
Feb 09 13:17:05 <misterli> Should be enough yes. If you'r using a Service/Broadcastreceiver. Did you check it if it's correctly set uped in your manifest?
Feb 09 13:17:10 <misterli> did you try printstacktraces()?
Feb 09 13:17:25 <misterli> Do you shot your RequestUpdates in the same Thread?
Feb 09 13:19:21 <yellowturtle> misterli: I set it up like this in my code: http://pastebin.com/WAau461k does this require anything to be mentioned in my manifest?
Feb 09 13:21:39 <Styler2go> if i want to writ eto internal storage,, is it the same why as external?
Feb 09 13:27:20 <xyz87> hey all
Feb 09 13:27:24 <yellowturtle> otherise misterli, I'm not sure where to call 		printstacktraces();
Feb 09 13:27:45 <yellowturtle> for there is no error, the broadcasts are just not receiver itseems
Feb 09 13:28:24 <xyz87> I created a textview item and wanna update the text inside it from within a handler I used textview.settext(1) but it is not updating when I run the program
Feb 09 13:29:07 <xyz87> any help
Feb 09 13:29:18 <yellowturtle> xyz87: is the handler called? at what's 1 - shouldn't there be a string?
Feb 09 13:29:42 <xyz87> yes the string is  "Done"
Feb 09 13:30:08 <xyz87> and yes I have made a log and Im receiving the Done message
Feb 09 13:30:15 <xyz87> but it is not updating
Feb 09 13:30:32 <misterli> Did you find the ID before? findViewById() before using setText? Are you getting an NullPointerException when you try to settext?
Feb 09 13:30:50 <xyz87> yes I have post it in the oncreate method
Feb 09 13:31:41 <misterli> Are you sure that setText is getting called? Try using Log.d() before the Call. Probably the code does not reach the Point? Is the setText(1) really a String? Did you debug it?
Feb 09 13:32:19 <xyz87> no there is no error
Feb 09 13:32:59 <misterli> Show some code. www.pastebin.com
Feb 09 13:34:53 <xyz87> im trying to set a log code
Feb 09 13:40:38 <xyz87> ill post the code
Feb 09 13:40:44 <xyz87> do u want the handler only
Feb 09 13:40:45 <xyz87> ???
Feb 09 13:42:11 <xyz87> http://pastebin.com/Rfdw7DyV
Feb 09 13:44:11 <Beket> mm I have a grid layout but it won't let me to scroll down/up in order to view all its children. Do I need to put it inside a scrollview or something ?
Feb 09 13:45:08 <yellowturtle> xyz87: is the textview in your current active layout?
Feb 09 13:45:23 <xyz87> yes
Feb 09 13:48:20 <yellowturtle> xyz87: then I have no clue. maybe clean up and recompile your project
Feb 09 13:50:44 <xyz87> it is not going into the if
Feb 09 13:50:58 <xyz87> and I dont know how to solve this
Feb 09 13:53:21 <xyz87> any clue
Feb 09 13:55:16 <yellowturtle> is there a way to see all the intents that are registered?
Feb 09 14:04:59 <Beket> I put a scrollview + linearlayout + gridlayout to make the grid scrollable. Is this normal?
Feb 09 14:05:29 <lasserix> gridview should handle scrolling without scrollview
Feb 09 14:05:48 <Beket> but when I omit the scrollview it won't scroll. Do I have to set some property to true ?
Feb 09 14:06:00 <lasserix> dont think so
Feb 09 14:06:06 <Beket> ok, will check again, thanks
Feb 09 14:06:23 <lasserix> make sure you are returning getCount in the adapter
Feb 09 14:06:31 <timroes> Beket: perhaps you want to use a gridview and not a gridlayout?
Feb 09 14:06:41 <Beket> timroes, noh, I don't have an adapter to connect to it
Feb 09 14:06:45 <lasserix> *doh
Feb 09 14:06:47 <Beket> just want to align some views + edit texts
Feb 09 14:06:52 <lasserix> I thought you meant gridview
Feb 09 14:06:55 <timroes> but gridlayout doesn't work like that :D
Feb 09 14:06:57 <Beket> yeh,np :)
Feb 09 14:07:02 <timroes> what you want with scrolling and such is a gridview
Feb 09 14:07:05 <Beket> timroes, how does it work ?
Feb 09 14:08:16 <timroes> to be an unscrollable grid layout?
Feb 09 14:08:34 <timroes> don't know exactly, never used it, since most of the times I think ohh a grid layout is what you want, i actually want a gridview
Feb 09 14:08:50 <timroes> because i have multiple views, that are dynamicly generated and not static predefined
Feb 09 14:10:29 <Beket> ok, cool
Feb 09 14:13:25 <yellowturtle> please someone help me with setting up the Intents for Proximity alerts, I'm stuck and have no fucking clue what I did wrong at all - the onReceive() method is just never called, but the Broadcast receiver objects are created - http://pastebin.com/WAau461k what did I do wrong? I feel the registration must be wrong?!
Feb 09 14:15:51 <timroes> https://github.com/timroes/SwipeToDismissUndoList <-- swipe to dismiss on list views with undo functionallity, feedback welcome
Feb 09 14:16:34 <Ge0rG> oh, github is back again
Feb 09 14:16:38 <timroes> yeah :D
Feb 09 14:16:47 <timroes> pretty long database maintenance
Feb 09 14:25:35 <yellowturtle> îs there any way to see what intents are registered for a running application?
Feb 09 14:28:04 <valgrind> Is there a way in speech recognition to have android get single letters?
Feb 09 14:38:28 <Anoia> yellowturtle: intents can be enumerated, not sure if you can tell where they'll end up though
Feb 09 14:39:42 <Daani> before I send the GCM registration id back to server I UrlEncode it, I can see that the id is sent but at the server it is null, what can be the reason it never gets tot he server?
Feb 09 14:44:23 <spobat> How can I make app-videos? :)
Feb 09 14:44:46 <Looney> use a camera spobat   :-P
Feb 09 14:45:02 <spobat> :S
Feb 09 14:45:08 <spobat> is there an app? :P
Feb 09 14:46:04 <yellowturtle> is by any chance the proximity alert thing broken in the current version of the sdk?!
Feb 09 14:48:21 <shmooz> spobat: what is app-videos ?
Feb 09 14:48:47 <shmooz> you want to make an app that plays video? or you want to use a app to make videos about apps ?
Feb 09 14:49:13 <spobat> yes
Feb 09 14:49:14 <spobat> the second one
Feb 09 14:50:18 <shmooz> there are many video recording apps, other than video recording, what else you need?
Feb 09 14:50:46 <spobat> I need only video recording :)
Feb 09 14:50:59 <spobat> Want to record promo videos for  apps
Feb 09 14:51:13 <shmooz> well your device should already have one if it has a cam
Feb 09 14:51:34 <spobat> what is HW overlay and how do I disable it?
Feb 09 14:51:42 <Leeds> spobat: the actual answer to your question, most likely, is a device with HDMI out and an HDMI recorder
Feb 09 14:52:37 <spobat> okay
Feb 09 14:52:40 <Looney> yo shmooz, long time no see
Feb 09 14:52:45 <Looney> how things have been
Feb 09 14:53:36 <shmooz> hi Looney , things are slow but ok
Feb 09 14:53:57 <shmooz> I completed that video player to a milestone, but I will expand it later again
Feb 09 14:53:58 <Looney> good to hear it
Feb 09 14:54:07 <Looney> milestone ? ?
Feb 09 14:54:12 <Looney> what was it
Feb 09 14:54:44 <shmooz> well it just lists a bunch of online videos that you can play
Feb 09 14:54:44 <shmooz> and local videos
Feb 09 14:55:03 <shmooz> but I hit a wall when I wanted it to use ffmpeg as its video container , instead of VideoView
Feb 09 14:55:37 <Looney> nice idea
Feb 09 14:56:14 <shmooz> because the people that compiled ffmpeg did it on ubuntu, and I was on windows 7, I tried compiling with NDK the ffmpeg but it didn't work, so I'm still waiting to get ubuntu on a box
Feb 09 14:56:42 <shmooz> Looney: what are you upto lately ?
Feb 09 14:57:12 <Looney> nothing much
Feb 09 14:57:23 <Looney> life, the usual
Feb 09 14:58:33 <shmooz> I think you were working on some android TV box last no ?
Feb 09 14:58:41 <Beket> Can a fragment implemen listeners ?
Feb 09 14:58:58 <Looney> yup
Feb 09 14:59:09 <Looney> the tv did not power od
Feb 09 14:59:19 <Looney> I mean the box did not boot
Feb 09 14:59:41 <shmooz> doh!
Feb 09 15:00:15 <Looney> so, I send apk and it is tested over Skype mostly   :-(
Feb 09 15:02:26 <shmooz> well I'm trying to come up with an idea for my next app
Feb 09 15:03:00 <shmooz> something easy to write and killer that makes a ton of money
Feb 09 15:03:23 <shmooz> not that I care about money
Feb 09 15:04:08 <valgrind> Is there a waym besides neural networks themeselves, to have android builtin speech recognition to accept the spelling of a word?
Feb 09 15:05:00 <Beket> how can I call findViewById() from within a fragment ?
Feb 09 15:05:33 <Beket> ah getView()
Feb 09 15:10:29 <Beket> http://paste.lisp.org/display/135381
Feb 09 15:10:38 <Beket> any idea why when I click I receive no log output ?
Feb 09 15:11:25 <Beket> ah no, I get it :) sorry
Feb 09 15:12:09 <shmooz> yes sometimes just talking to yourself will help solve the problem ;)
Feb 09 15:12:29 <Beket> haha, I should practice it in an empty channel
Feb 09 15:20:46 <anaisthitos__> hello to everyone
Feb 09 15:20:51 <anaisthitos__> i got a question
Feb 09 15:21:04 <anaisthitos__> can i ask it please?
Feb 09 15:21:43 <Beket> try to ask it and see what happens
Feb 09 15:22:06 <anaisthitos__>  I developed my first app for google play a long time ago... about couple of months
Feb 09 15:22:13 <anaisthitos__> then i had to update it with the facebook new sdk
Feb 09 15:22:21 <anaisthitos__> so i tried a few changes and finally i ruined everytung
Feb 09 15:22:31 <anaisthitos__> i got patient and developed it again from scratch...
Feb 09 15:22:36 <shmooz> anaisthitos__: you just did
Feb 09 15:22:36 <shmooz> now its gonna be 2 questions
Feb 09 15:22:41 <anaisthitos__> now iam going to update it and the google play says different keystores...
Feb 09 15:23:13 <anaisthitos__> how can i make an update?
Feb 09 15:23:26 <anaisthitos__> can anybody tell me please?
Feb 09 15:23:50 <shmooz> well I personally turn down apps that expect me to have a facebook account
Feb 09 15:23:52 <valgrind> you ruined everything... you didnt use git to have previous commits?
Feb 09 15:24:02 <shmooz> like instagram
Feb 09 15:24:19 <Beket> shmooz +1
Feb 09 15:24:47 <Styler2go> can someone help my with a complete different thing? the facebook php  sdk?
Feb 09 15:25:04 <valgrind> you might wanna go to #php? :D
Feb 09 15:25:09 <anaisthitos__> no i didn't
Feb 09 15:25:10 <Styler2go> nobody there :D
Feb 09 15:25:23 <Styler2go> nobody is answering*
Feb 09 15:25:24 <anaisthitos__> and now i know whaty a huge mistake i've done
Feb 09 15:25:31 <GermainZ> Hey guys. I have two questions regarding eclipse with ubuntu: 1- Should I get the oracle jdk, or openjdk? 2- If I get the oracle jdk, 1.7 wasn't support last time I checked. Should I grab 1.6 instead? Thanks :)
Feb 09 15:26:24 <valgrind> on eclipse, when you create a project you cn nevertheless select the java you wanna use... you can have both 1.6 and 1.7 installed
Feb 09 15:27:01 <GermainZ> I must get 1.6, tho?
Feb 09 15:28:05 <opl> I'm using 1.7 on eclipse
Feb 09 15:28:24 <anaisthitos__> valgrind did you just answered to me or to someone else because i've been confused  (you ruined everything... you didnt use git to have previous commits?)
Feb 09 15:28:53 <GermainZ> anaisthitos__, he was talking to you :)
Feb 09 15:29:03 <shmooz> I have to install ubuntu first
Feb 09 15:29:51 <opl> owh sorry..i'm using eclipse on window
Feb 09 15:30:23 <anaisthitos__> i don't know who is talking to whom
Feb 09 15:30:25 <anaisthitos__> :D
Feb 09 15:30:31 <Beket> How could I hide the logon icon + title but keep the action bar+tabs?
Feb 09 15:30:36 <Beket> it's a major waste of space
Feb 09 15:30:39 <yellowturtle> hey guys, how can I create a device with a lower target API version? the avd manager only gives me one choice - how can I add the older ones, too?
Feb 09 15:30:42 <opl> GermainZ
Feb 09 15:31:08 <GermainZ> yellowturtle, download it first
Feb 09 15:31:15 <GermainZ> Yes, opl?
Feb 09 15:31:35 <anaisthitos__> valgrid??? any answer plz?
Feb 09 15:31:45 <opl> need ask something
Feb 09 15:32:15 <shmooz> yellowturtle: you have to install the other versions of the sdk and then AVD will let you create a list of multiple devices with different versions
Feb 09 15:32:47 <yellowturtle> thanks shmooz, GermainZ ... I think the proximity alert is broken in the newest version :(
Feb 09 15:33:02 <anaisthitos__> shmooz?
Feb 09 15:33:31 <yellowturtle> GermainZ: is there a quick way to do that or do I have to download the whole old sdk?
Feb 09 15:34:16 <GermainZ> yellowturtle, that's the quick way AFAIK
Feb 09 15:34:44 <yellowturtle> ok, thanks, I will try that
Feb 09 15:34:51 <GermainZ> opl, what did you want?
Feb 09 15:35:05 <tona> i need one client and one server to use socket android , i am looking for a way to send one file without server, is there one way to do it ?
Feb 09 15:35:21 <anaisthitos__> GermainZ can you help me with my queston please
Feb 09 15:35:28 <opl> what happen if we use real device instead of using emulators?how ccan it affect normal device operation?
Feb 09 15:35:39 <GermainZ> opl, it's just faster.
Feb 09 15:35:44 <GermainZ> anaisthitos__, would a video tutorial help?
Feb 09 15:36:08 <opl> no effect on the device itself?
Feb 09 15:36:11 <GermainZ> anaisthitos__, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9ryE6GwhmA&list=PL2F07DBCDCC01493A
Feb 09 15:36:22 <anaisthitos__> Germainz everything ould help
Feb 09 15:36:24 <GermainZ> opl, well, whatever the app does will have an effect, obviously.
Feb 09 15:36:49 <anaisthitos__> Germainz the roblem is how to update app in google play without having the old keystore...
Feb 09 15:37:05 <GermainZ> I think the only way is to upload it as a new package.
Feb 09 15:37:14 <opl> no..i mean on the settg and data in it?
Feb 09 15:37:19 <Beket> anaisthitos__, you can't, that's the point of key. publish it under another name
Feb 09 15:37:36 <GermainZ> opl, I don't understand what you mean
Feb 09 15:37:50 <anaisthitos__> Germainz you mean tha to upload a new app and my ex-users will not promed for update
Feb 09 15:38:11 <yellowturtle> can anyone with eclipse do me a huge favor and download the project linked at the bottom of the article at http://www.javacodegeeks.com/2011/01/android-proximity-alerts-tutorial.html (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7215751/JavaCodeGeeks/AndroidProximityAlertsTutorial/AndroidProximityAlertProject.zip) , add a @SuppressWarnings("deprecation") and confirm that there is no call to onReceive() ever? :(
Feb 09 15:38:13 <GermainZ> anaisthitos__, yes. That's the only way.
Feb 09 15:38:42 <anaisthitos__> Germainz with the same user in google play?
Feb 09 15:39:50 <anaisthitos__> GermainZ is there any way to restore keystore?
Feb 09 15:40:14 <GermainZ> You're supposed to have backups of your keystore ...
Feb 09 15:40:32 <GermainZ> <anaisthitos__> Germainz with the same user in google play? <- Yes, but change the package's name
Feb 09 15:41:15 <anaisthitos__> GermainZ or delete the previous one and just reupload it???
Feb 09 15:41:53 <GermainZ> Your choice.
Feb 09 15:42:08 <opl> GermainZ: if i use my everyday  device to test my apps, will all my data and setting will be wiped after the test?
Feb 09 15:42:25 <anaisthitos__> ok thank you very very much for your jelp GermainZ.... i owe you... :D
Feb 09 15:42:38 <GermainZ> opl, of course not... unless you have your app wipe your data.
Feb 09 15:42:50 <Peetz0r> In some cases the emulator can be fater than a real device
Feb 09 15:43:12 <Anuroth> Which function is called of a fragment when I press e.g. the homebutton and the application is send to the background. I assumed onPause would be sufficient to pause my game according to the life cycle but my game is still running in the background.
Feb 09 15:43:21 <tona> manual in adroid related with socket , i will appreciate any help support ?
Feb 09 15:43:42 <opl> thanks GermainZ :)
Feb 09 15:43:56 <GermainZ> You're welcome :)
Feb 09 15:43:58 <Peetz0r> Sideloading a apk to my HTC Wildfire takes over 10 seconds, while doind the same to a emulator takes less than 1 second. But that's an old low-end device :p
Feb 09 15:49:21 <yellowturtle> so how do I go about setting up proximity alerts? all the tutorials I can find online do just not work on 4.2 :(
Feb 09 15:49:39 <fanno> can't i make a intent filter react to only path of a url ? eg <data android:pathPattern="/projects/p/*" android:scheme="http" /> the issue is it reacts to all url's
Feb 09 15:52:19 <zzattack> is it possible in xml to specify the attribute of a inner view inside the definition of a (custom) outer composite view?
Feb 09 15:52:27 <Peetz0r> Hi, My app takes over 1240 kb of storage, of which 924kb is dalvik-cache. What is this, and why is it so large?
Feb 09 15:57:10 <Ge0rG> Peetz0r: basically uncompressed binary code; have you tried proguard?
Feb 09 15:57:25 <jug6ernaut> how is it possible to convert android.graphics.color to hex or int value?
Feb 09 15:59:51 <danners_> hey i have a tablelayout in a xml. to that i add in my programm tablerows. in these rows there are 2 textviews. how can i make sure that the second textview gets displayed on the right side?
Feb 09 15:59:54 <Peetz0r> Ge0rG: isn't proguard enabled by default in ADT?
Feb 09 16:00:48 <Ge0rG> Peetz0r: afaik no
Feb 09 16:01:28 <Peetz0r> Then I'll read some more
Feb 09 16:03:12 <Nighthawk``> Anyone knows where can i get the latest ROM ?
Feb 09 16:03:25 <yellowturtle> can anyone help me out with a snippet of a working proximity alert code? all the ones I can find just do not work at all
Feb 09 16:04:28 <GermainZ> Nighthawk``, custom ROM or official ROM>
Feb 09 16:05:16 <Nighthawk``> GermainZ, what you suggest ?
Feb 09 16:05:36 <GermainZ> Your question, how would I know.
Feb 09 16:05:43 <Nighthawk``> custom.
Feb 09 16:06:05 <GermainZ> xda-developers.com is probably the most active.
Feb 09 16:06:12 <Nighthawk``> thanks mate.
Feb 09 16:09:44 <Silox|> My theme is using the Theme.Sherlock.Light which has as parent android:Theme.Light. How can I determine the background color from this theme?
Feb 09 16:11:43 <yellowturtle> where else can I go to get some help with android programming guys?
Feb 09 16:12:00 <GermainZ> stackexchange
Feb 09 16:12:13 <GermainZ> android.stackexchange.com/
Feb 09 16:12:22 <Silox|> yellowturtle: You can just ask here too
Feb 09 16:12:54 <GermainZ> Silox|, "where else" :D
Feb 09 16:13:05 <Silox|> Oh.
Feb 09 16:13:06 <Silox|> Right :'D
Feb 09 16:13:31 <yellowturtle> Silox|: unfortunately, no one here could help me
Feb 09 16:14:47 <yellowturtle> Silox|: I'm trying to use the proximity alert functionality but i can't get it to work - I used a couple of tutorials and read all fucking stack exchange questions, I'm pretty certain my code isn't wrong - but I can't confirm without help from the outside
Feb 09 16:15:13 <yellowturtle> basically i registered the intents at http://pastebin.com/WAau461k but I never ever receive a call to onReceive()
Feb 09 16:15:57 <yellowturtle> though through the logger i know that the receiver is set up and everything works, through onlocationchange() i also know that I receive my mock location updates and so on
Feb 09 16:16:27 <yellowturtle> i also downloaded some tutorial eclipse project which has the same behaviour - just no calls to the onreceive() method
Feb 09 16:18:05 <yellowturtle> so my questions are: did I set up my proximityalert correctly? can someone confirm that there are no calls to onreceive()? and how the fuck do i get it to work?
Feb 09 16:20:33 <yellowturtle> also I can't register with stack exchange because it denies the use of my email addresses lol
Feb 09 16:22:31 <sonOfRa> Can I properly force my application into non-landscape only? By disregarding config changes, I can apparently only force it to stay the same, but I explicitly want it to stay upright...
Feb 09 16:23:00 <GermainZ> sonOfRa, you can do that by editing the manifest.
Feb 09 16:23:46 <sonOfRa> oh, yeah i just found that
Feb 09 16:27:29 <yellowturtle> Silox|: any idea what I can do to solve my problem? ;)
Feb 09 16:36:54 <Silox|> Hah, no :P
Feb 09 16:37:01 <Silox|> I'm just a starting developer :3
Feb 09 16:44:05 <tibbi> anyone knows when is onEvaluateInputViewShown called ?
Feb 09 16:44:11 <tibbi> i cant seem to override InputMethodService properly
Feb 09 16:48:26 <Silox|> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14790318/use-theme-light-background-as-linearlayout-background anyone any idea?
Feb 09 16:50:43 <SimonVT> Well that didn't make much sense
Feb 09 16:50:43 <jguy2013> Trying to run backtrack5 on my galaxy s3,  this is the script i try running; http://pastebin.com/HZ2kiGNh -  the error I receieve back is:  bootbt[36]: syntax error: 'if' unmatched
Feb 09 16:51:32 <SimonVT> jguy2013: #android-root
Feb 09 16:52:15 <Silox|> SimonVT: Not much sense, no?
Feb 09 16:52:35 <SimonVT> The view is transparent, so you're already seeing the activitys background.. So why put the same background on the view?
Feb 09 16:52:46 <Silox|> Because I don't want it to be transparant ;)
Feb 09 16:53:08 <SimonVT> I don't understand what it is you're trying to fix
Feb 09 16:53:26 <kozak> Hi All, I am trying to get JB on panda  working .... but during boot up I get this error message : http://pastebin.com/6E5Gwme5
Feb 09 16:53:54 <SimonVT> You don't want it to be transparent, you want it to have the same background as you're already seeing.. So basically there's no difference, except more overdraw?
Feb 09 16:54:15 <Silox|> SimonVT: http://imgur.com/Ez6M0tn
Feb 09 16:55:05 <SimonVT> Aha, that makes more sense
Feb 09 16:55:44 <Silox|> If you look at the screenshot; you can see that the bar with '12 Feb' is transparant. I want it to have the same background as the rest of the app.
Feb 09 16:56:37 <SimonVT> You can use ?android:attr/windowBackground
Feb 09 16:56:49 <SimonVT> Just make sure you set windowBackground to a solid color
Feb 09 16:56:59 <SimonVT> I wonder why they don't handle that in the library
Feb 09 16:57:28 <Silox|> ?android:attr/windowBackground
Feb 09 16:57:29 <Silox|> err
Feb 09 16:57:42 <Silox|> String types not allowed (at 'background' with value '').
Feb 09 16:57:55 <mdkess> So I really don't like the progress bar on Jelly Bean, I find it impossible to see. Does anyone know of good alternatives?
Feb 09 16:58:07 <Silox|> That's the problem, SimonVT.
Feb 09 16:58:23 <Silox|> I don't know what the background of the window is, as that is defined in the Theme.Light style from android itself
Feb 09 16:59:12 <SimonVT> If you get that error, you typed it wrong
Feb 09 16:59:24 <SimonVT> Anyway, you have to set a solid color background
Feb 09 16:59:33 <SimonVT> On ics+, the default background is a gradient
Feb 09 16:59:40 <SimonVT> That's going to look horrible
Feb 09 17:00:19 <Silox|> I don't see a gradient on the screenshot I provided as window background?
Feb 09 17:25:23 <Beket> hm, I have a bunch of edit texts and the focus goes to the 2nd one, although I have a request focus in the 1st
Feb 09 17:25:24 <Beket> any ideas ?
Feb 09 17:30:33 <mbarisa> hmm.. i need SimpleDateFormat for this Mon Jan 14 17:06:25 CET 2013
Feb 09 17:31:22 <mbarisa> like inputFormat.. ("EE MM dd HH:mm:ss") i dont know how to get CET and if the rest is ok? :)
Feb 09 17:33:22 <superlinux-hp> hi. can't I build a layout file on runtime to inflate it later?
Feb 09 17:33:51 <superlinux-hp> or maybe a whole string full of XML full of layouts ?
Feb 09 17:36:17 <Leeds> you *can* - the word you need to be searching for in the docs is 'inflate' - but that doesn't necessarily mean you should...
Feb 09 17:38:02 <Ge0rG> what is the best way to communicate from a service to a background thread, asynchronously, without implementing your own message passing interface?
Feb 09 17:39:00 <yellowturtle> anyone here who knows what is wrong with my requests to receive proximity notifications - registered as in http://pastebin.com/WAau461k  ?
Feb 09 17:39:23 <Ge0rG> yellowturtle: do you have network location enabled in your phone settings?
Feb 09 17:49:45 <yellowturtle> Ge0rG: yes, I have all the necessary permissions - i also receive the updates and process them successfully in onlocationchange()
Feb 09 17:49:59 <yellowturtle> but the onreceive is never called
Feb 09 17:50:57 <Ge0rG> mhm
Feb 09 17:55:15 <jug6ernaut> how do you get the int/hex value from a Color object?
Feb 09 17:57:44 <mbarisa> ok i managed it to work :D
Feb 09 17:58:36 <Ork> Hi
Feb 09 17:58:47 <Ork> I need a little help on androidannotations
Feb 09 17:59:02 <Ork> I'm trying to use a rest api using the annotations
Feb 09 17:59:09 <Ork> http://pastebin.com/G1ZrWsdM http://pastebin.com/vnEQMFWS http://pastebin.com/iMwx3706
Feb 09 17:59:31 <Ork> I'm trying to put this json into an object http://ifconfig.me/all.json
Feb 09 17:59:47 <Ork> But I'm getting this error http://pastebin.com/naTuR4mY
Feb 09 18:00:13 <Ork> I begun Android dev two days ago, so I'm no pro :)
Feb 09 18:00:33 <Ork> Thank you
Feb 09 18:02:46 <Gambit-> anyone know off hand if posix pipe()'s are supported in native?
Feb 09 18:03:00 <dragorn> Gambit-: they are
Feb 09 18:03:07 <Gambit-> ah good
Feb 09 18:03:09 <Gambit-> posix threads?
Feb 09 18:03:15 <dragorn> Gambit-: infact if you're really clever you can make a pipe and turn it into a FileDescriptor
Feb 09 18:03:36 <Gambit-> oh, well, mostly I'm just scoping for portability conflicts in the future :)
Feb 09 18:04:16 <loin> hello, how can i execute an action just before the screen is turned off?
Feb 09 18:05:15 <dragorn> there's theoretically issues with using the java run.exec popen stuff b/c it might let dalvik run for a while longer before forking; i've seen some issues but never was able to completely narrow it down to that.  I did write my own popen equivalent to bypass the problems (namely doing the fork and exec in native code ,and returning FileDescriptor maps of the stdin/out pipes)
Feb 09 18:06:30 <Gambit-> right
Feb 09 18:06:37 <Gambit-> I heard fork() came in recently as well.
Feb 09 18:07:13 <Gambit-> I wonder if I can find a VPN demo somewhere.
Feb 09 18:24:06 <tibbi> has anyone ever successfully overriden onEvaluateInputViewShown ?
Feb 09 18:31:52 <Styler2go> if i want to get the difference of two dates in millieseconds... i shuld use Calendar, or?
Feb 09 18:35:54 <Styler2go> http://pastebin.com/AM1RamTV this should log me the difference between now and 17. feb. in seconds, or?
Feb 09 18:50:43 <sulaiman> Hello.
Feb 09 18:51:46 <sulaiman> I am learning about Fragments and have come to know that fragments can be added, removed or simply replaced dynamically in an Activity.
Feb 09 18:52:20 <sulaiman> What I'd like to know is, when should I replace a fragment as opposed to starting a new activity?
Feb 09 18:52:39 <sulaiman> Couldn't I build my entire application in one activity by replacing fragments?
Feb 09 18:52:51 <Styler2go> you could :D
Feb 09 18:53:20 <p_l> and you'd cause similar issues as HTML5 apps get :P
Feb 09 18:54:28 <sulaiman> I haven't learned html5 yet, what issues are those, p_l ?
Feb 09 18:54:53 <p_l> sulaiman: often baffling navigation ;>
Feb 09 19:04:56 <sulaiman> p_l, now I just learned about "addToBackStack()" to take care of the navigation issue.
Feb 09 19:05:48 <sulaiman> I think I will use one activity per section of an app, and replace fragments in those for different tasks
Feb 09 19:08:04 <yellowturtle> anyone here who knows what is wrong with my requests to receive proximity notifications - registered as in http://pastebin.com/WAau461k  ? I have all the permissions and onlcoationchange() also processes the gps updates, but i don't receive proximity notifications
Feb 09 19:28:31 <rootty> hi all
Feb 09 19:30:19 <rootty> Does it worth to cache objects in HashMap instead of selecting them from Cursor in my custom BaseAdapter.getItem(int position)?
Feb 09 19:30:49 <clever> rootty: depends on how fast the cursor is, and how often your data changes
Feb 09 19:31:21 <clever> rootty: you could also look into a android.util.LruCache<K,v>
Feb 09 19:32:27 <rootty> My Cursor is populated befor it's passed in the constructor of my BaseAdapter. The data wouldn't be changed.
Feb 09 19:32:53 <rootty> >[20:31] <clever> rootty: you could also look into a android.util.LruCache<K,v>
Feb 09 19:32:54 <rootty> thnx
Feb 09 19:34:48 <rootty> clever, what did you mean about "speed of the cursor" ?
Feb 09 19:35:10 <clever> rootty: in my case, the its doing an sqlite query for every .getItem
Feb 09 19:35:13 <clever> and its relatively slow
Feb 09 19:36:52 <rootty> clever, so in such case(you've said about), it's good to cache them in HashMap? But if i have it prepopulated it isn't worth?
Feb 09 19:37:13 <clever> yeah
Feb 09 19:37:33 <rootty> clever, thanks a lot.
Feb 09 19:37:48 <sonOfRa> mh, i kind of disliked cursors, maybe i used them wrong
Feb 09 19:37:55 <sonOfRa> I'm quite happy with the lists i get out of ORMlite
Feb 09 19:38:21 <sonOfRa> especially when doing the fetching semi-lazy
Feb 09 19:38:41 <rootty> sonOfRa, but it using cursor underthehood, isn't it?
Feb 09 19:39:04 <sonOfRa> i don't know, it might have to to communicate with android sqlite
Feb 09 19:43:17 <harrydog> where should i extract the cordova .zip files on osx?
Feb 09 19:46:33 <rootty> harrydog, http://docs.phonegap.com/en/2.3.0/guide_getting-started_ios_index.md.html#Getting%20Started%20with%20iOS  ?
Feb 09 19:48:30 <harrydog> thanks!
Feb 09 19:49:24 <tibbi> anyone with experience overriding InputMethodService ?
Feb 09 20:09:07 <Chronax> Just set up a new Jenkins instance on Gentoo, and I'm getting immediate build errors here http://pastebin.com/aCavXJMs followed by a ton of libafwrap.so errors. I suspect this is a 64 / 32 bit issue, but I installed Gentoo's equivalent of the compatibility libraries to no avail. Anybody have any other suggestions?
Feb 09 20:09:16 <Chronax> Sorry, not exactly and Android dev question.
Feb 09 20:10:12 <danners_> hey i, in my program i add tablerows to a tablelayout. in these rows i added two textviews. how can i specify that they are on the right and left side of the row?
Feb 09 20:12:03 <Styler2go> Is there any way i could use the YouTubeAPI with ActionBarSherlock? The Problem is: i need to extend my class by YouTubeFailureRecoveryActivity but for ActionBar i need SherlockActivity. any way to extend by two activities?
Feb 09 20:12:35 <Chronax> danners_: There are lots of ways, but you can probably use android:layout_gravity="left", etc.
Feb 09 20:13:00 <harrydog> is there a way to see if i have the "Android SDK platform-tools and tools directory" already downloaded, on osx
Feb 09 20:13:03 <Chronax> Styler2go: No. Java doesn't support multiple inheritance. You'd need to build your own new class that inherits from a SherlockActivity.
Feb 09 20:13:26 <Styler2go> how could i do this?
Feb 09 20:14:27 <Styler2go> oh i found something on stackoverflow.. i could use fragments...
Feb 09 20:14:39 <Chronax> Yeah, but you'll have the same problem.
Feb 09 20:14:43 <Styler2go> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14000006/inheriting-actionbarsherlock-and-android-youtubeplayer this is what i need... semms so...
Feb 09 20:15:20 <fredcooke> Styler2go: no, but you can use reflection to combine interfaces and delegate implementations behind the scenes
Feb 09 20:15:25 <fredcooke> i do this in one of my libraries
Feb 09 20:15:35 <Styler2go> can you tell me how?
Feb 09 20:15:38 <fredcooke> Chronax, rather
Feb 09 20:15:55 <fredcooke> may not be applicable to your situation
Feb 09 20:15:58 <timroes> Styler2go: that fragment solution is way to prefere over any relfection stuff
Feb 09 20:16:07 <timroes> or writing everything yourself
Feb 09 20:16:18 <Styler2go> is this a good help, the stackoverflow link i posted?
Feb 09 20:16:40 <timroes> Styler2go: do it that way
Feb 09 20:16:53 <fredcooke> Styler2go: check out this class: InvocationHandler
Feb 09 20:17:04 <timroes> its a pretty good solution, and you won't get problems later when creating a tablet layout with multiple fragments
Feb 09 20:17:44 <danners_> Chronax: if i set the gravity of the row to center, both textvies are together in the center, how can i make them stay apart?
Feb 09 20:17:51 <fredcooke> (21:15:58) timroes: Styler2go: that fragment solution is way to prefere over any relfection stuff
Feb 09 20:17:51 <fredcooke> wasn't disagreeing, just saying you can do fancy stuff, if you need to :-)
Feb 09 20:18:04 <timroes> fredcooke: totally agreee with you :)
Feb 09 20:18:16 <timroes> just wrote a object mapper for mongo db some month ago :D
Feb 09 20:18:21 <timroes> impossible without relfection
Feb 09 20:18:31 <timroes> but also I must say, if you can get around reflection, you better do :)
Feb 09 20:18:40 <fredcooke> yes
Feb 09 20:19:17 <timroes> do you know if invocationhandler works all fine on android?
Feb 09 20:19:30 <fredcooke> no idea at all
Feb 09 20:19:42 <fredcooke> but i hope so, planning to use that lib in an app :-)
Feb 09 20:19:43 <timroes> because could come very handy for the framework i am currently developing
Feb 09 20:20:00 <fredcooke> if you try it on there, ping me
Feb 09 20:20:12 <Styler2go> uhm
Feb 09 20:20:47 <timroes> fredcooke: i guess i will give it a look next week (currently weekend, dont want to take too much work to home :D)
Feb 09 20:21:46 <Styler2go> i hope i get this working :D
Feb 09 20:21:52 <Styler2go> never done something with fragments :D
Feb 09 20:22:07 <Styler2go> a fragment is something like an iframe, or? :D
Feb 09 20:22:32 <timroes> wuaaah
Feb 09 20:22:45 <Styler2go> :D
Feb 09 20:22:47 <timroes> yeah as much as american sausage is a bratwurst :D
Feb 09 20:22:58 <timroes> to give you a german comparison :D
Feb 09 20:23:01 <harrydog> when I try to make a new phonegap project, i get this… An unexpected error occurred: ANDROID_BIN="${ANDROID_BIN:=$( which android )}" exited with 1
Feb 09 20:23:08 <Styler2go> i dont know amercian sausages :D
Feb 09 20:23:20 <timroes> (me neither just heard about it :D)
Feb 09 20:23:40 <Styler2go> haha :D
Feb 09 20:25:06 <rootty> Styler2go, they are rather partial views in ASP.NET MVC ))
Feb 09 20:26:17 <Styler2go> i dont know asp.net :D
Feb 09 20:27:14 <timroes> Styler2go: yeah if you come from web you could compare it with frames i guess, but in oposite to frames, fragments is something you should use :D
Feb 09 20:27:53 <Styler2go> haha
Feb 09 20:28:05 <Styler2go> im not talking about frames, i mean iframe :D
Feb 09 20:28:08 <rootty> harrydog, you probably didn't set android in your PATH
Feb 09 20:28:27 <harrydog> yeah, i'm figuring the path isn't setup right
Feb 09 20:28:41 <timroes> Styler2go: yeah iframes are also frames
Feb 09 20:28:51 <timroes> http://developer.android.com/guide/components/fragments.html
Feb 09 20:29:02 <harrydog> i have this in my .bash_profile   export PATH=${PATH}:~/adt-bundle-mac-x86_64/platform-tools:~/adt-bundle-mac-x86_64/tools
Feb 09 20:29:03 <Styler2go> but you can use iframes, but you should not use frames :D
Feb 09 20:29:18 <timroes> you neither should use iframes in fact anymore
Feb 09 20:29:19 <rootty> Styler2go, it's smth like <div id="fragmentcontainer"></div>  and $('#fragmentContainer').html(myFragmentbody)   )))
Feb 09 20:29:23 <Styler2go> ok this thing with fragmentactivity was easy
Feb 09 20:29:28 <Styler2go> its really working :D
Feb 09 20:29:46 <Styler2go> and yes, i am coming from web developing :D
Feb 09 20:29:55 <timroes> rootty: +1; Styler2go: serveside yuse yoru script langauge to inupt, and clietn side use javascript don't use iframes :D
Feb 09 20:31:43 <plantian> hey guys, I'm trying to get the authenticator sample to work in my code, specifically getting a login form to show, i have this code in my MainActivity but it seems to block and do nothing until i end it (ie. you app is not responding: wait/end) , but then the next time i used my app it asks to login -- any thoughts?  https://gist.github.com/ianjosephwilson/4746985
Feb 09 20:35:31 <harrydog> i think i'm setting the path right, i downloaded the sdk as a bundle before, and was able to setup some sample apps from eclipse before
Feb 09 20:35:58 <harrydog> but when i try the ./create script for phonegap, it throws that error like it can't find the android sdk tools or platform tools
Feb 09 20:36:27 <rootty> harrydog, try to write 'adb' in conole (wothout quotes)
Feb 09 20:36:45 <rootty> console*
Feb 09 20:37:03 <harrydog> i'm on osx
Feb 09 20:37:23 <harrydog> you mean terminal? says command not found
Feb 09 20:37:26 <rootty> as far as i know, osx also has console(terminal)
Feb 09 20:37:54 <rootty> that mean you don't have set PATH correctly
Feb 09 20:37:57 <Ge0rG> why are some ant targets beginning with a dash, like "-pre-build"? that way, one can't call them manually :(
Feb 09 20:38:49 <harrydog> does this look incorrect, here's my .bash_profile http://pastebin.com/rjcaednt
Feb 09 20:39:31 <harrydog> maybe i need to reboot my computer for the path to take effect?  i tried source ~/.bash_profile
Feb 09 20:40:53 <rootty> harrydog, i have never set PATH for android bundles.
Feb 09 20:41:43 <rootty> harrydog, but it looks to be correct
Feb 09 20:42:54 <rootty> harrydog, http://stackoverflow.com/a/5526489/387483
Feb 09 21:00:16 <fredcooke> quick question, not specified on the "installing eclipse plugin" page, will it work with indigo? or older? or just juno? or what? I'm guessing it'll work with indigo, maybe older, but someone here will know for sure.
Feb 09 21:00:37 * fredcooke should really upgrade to juno on this box anyway, the m2e stuff is miles better
Feb 09 21:02:13 <rootty> fredcooke, or just use intellij idea CE
Feb 09 21:02:25 <fredcooke> on a cold day in hell
Feb 09 21:03:17 <rootty> but why?
Feb 09 21:03:32 <fredcooke> CDT for one thing, latex, and a zillion other eclipse plugins that I use
Feb 09 21:06:53 <mgv> fredcooke: I have Eclipse 3.8 (Indigo) and the plugin works perfectly
Feb 09 21:06:53 <fredcooke> however, i should give idea a try, since there is now a FOSS version of it, it'd be a useful thing to know for the CV, if nothing else
Feb 09 21:06:59 <fredcooke> mgv thank you
Feb 09 21:07:00 <fredcooke> :-)
Feb 09 21:07:06 <mgv> fredcooke: you're welcome
Feb 09 21:09:26 <grimmWolf> In order to embed values from strings I've retrieved from strings.xml I'm doing something along the lines of. <string name="str_foo">Test: %1$s</string>
Feb 09 21:09:26 <grimmWolf> String.format(getResources().getString(R.string.ald_deploy_mes), str);
Feb 09 21:09:26 <grimmWolf> Is this the generally accepted way to do this within Android, or is there a ‘proper’ way of doing it.
Feb 09 21:10:34 <grimmWolf> String.format(getResources().getString(R.string.str_foo), str); *
Feb 09 21:11:49 <Sepho> Hi guys
Feb 09 21:12:49 <fredcooke> fred@dauntless:~$ wget http://download-ln.jetbrains.com/idea/ideaIC-12.0.3.tar.gz :-p thanks rootty :-)
Feb 09 21:13:58 <rootty> frecooke ))
Feb 09 21:15:45 <Styler2go> is it a problem if the GC often works in my app?
Feb 09 21:16:40 <fredcooke> sounds like you're doing a lot of instantiation
Feb 09 21:16:45 <fredcooke> only a problem if it's pointless
Feb 09 21:17:32 <clever> fredcooke: one of the apps ive installed recently is GC'ing nearly 2mb every 3 seconds, even when the device is 'off'
Feb 09 21:17:42 <clever> the code must be a horid mess
Feb 09 21:17:49 <fredcooke> :-o
Feb 09 21:19:18 <fredcooke> Styler2go: are you doing math on Long or Integer or such things? you could be doing a lot of auto boxing/unboxing
Feb 09 21:19:31 <fredcooke> same for Double vs double and Float vs float
Feb 09 21:19:47 <fredcooke> wild guess, but... :-)
Feb 09 21:20:01 <plantian> Is there a good way to access the activity that created a callback within the callback?
Feb 09 21:20:08 <timroes> Styler2go: +1 for your new design, your app is improving a lot from what i've seen few days ago imho
Feb 09 21:20:42 <timroes> and GC running often in your app is always something you should investigate
Feb 09 21:21:25 <clever> timroes: is there any way to make the system dump all cached objects in Resources?
Feb 09 21:21:48 <clever> ive found that its sometimes holding on to some large bitmaps when all activity's have been destroyed or stoppe
Feb 09 21:21:52 <clever> d
Feb 09 21:23:16 <timroes> clever you can make a heap dump and analyse this. you can display whole GC dependency graph
Feb 09 21:23:23 <timroes> will show if there are still links to an bitmap
Feb 09 21:23:38 <clever> timroes: ive done that, and Resources seemed to be the only link, last i looked
Feb 09 21:23:49 <clever> let me do another hprof dump and see...
Feb 09 21:23:49 <timroes> but for my experience trying to figure out hard facts from Heap dumps might be a hard and not very reliable work
Feb 09 21:24:09 <clever> i'm trying to reduce memory usage when the app is stopped
Feb 09 21:24:10 <timroes> clever: are you running low on memory?
Feb 09 21:24:49 <clever> ive had other programs lag and get into the D state when mine was running
Feb 09 21:25:16 <clever> mine has a forground service, so it wont be killed off
Feb 09 21:26:51 <timroes> yeah I always find that pretty hard to investigate. and i am not sure how reliable also. I yesterday made a lot of thread analysis that resulted in 60% time usage for a method, that actually wasn't the problem. problem was some other method runing in parallel created lots of memory usage, that slowed down that other method quite a bit
Feb 09 21:27:37 <clever> timroes: right now, its sitting at 13mb/14mb usage, when in the background
Feb 09 21:27:49 <clever> because i havent used the graphic intense activity
Feb 09 21:28:16 <clever> timroes: i opened that activity, then hit back all the way home
Feb 09 21:28:21 <clever> its now at 19mb/21mb
Feb 09 21:29:57 <cooldman224> Anyone know why I can't @Inject a @Singleton in a dialog fragment?
Feb 09 21:35:26 <jA_cOp> What's a good way to retain a reference to an AsyncTask when the "owner" activity is being recreated due to a configuration change?
Feb 09 21:39:30 <clever> timroes: are there any simple ways to diff 2 hprof dumps?
Feb 09 21:39:57 <timroes> uh not that i know
Feb 09 21:40:21 <timroes> but the idea never occured to me, so you might want to ask google :D
Feb 09 21:42:04 <rootty> Anyone know how to save fragmentsBackstack ?
Feb 09 21:42:47 <cooldman224> Figured out my problem: extend robodialogfragment not dialogfragment
Feb 09 21:42:55 <harrydog> is anyone familiar with setting up the path to android sdk (for phonegap) in OSX? Here's my .bash_profile http://pastebin.com/rjcaednt but it doesn't seem to work
Feb 09 21:43:22 <timroes> what doesnt seem to work?
Feb 09 21:46:44 <harrydog> when I run ./create from the phonegap bin directory, i get this:  An unexpected error occurred: ANDROID_BIN="${ANDROID_BIN:=$( which android )}" exited with 1
Feb 09 21:47:13 <fredcooke> rootty: so far idea is pissing me off a LOT, for one thing it's switching virtual desktops without asking, that's totally unacceptable, yuck. i'll give it some time, though.
Feb 09 21:47:51 <timroes> harrydog: `which android` gives you what output on the console?
Feb 09 21:48:47 <rootty> fredcooke, when does it switch desktops? I have no such problem.
Feb 09 21:48:47 <harrydog> nothing
Feb 09 21:48:57 <timroes> harrydog: what does `export` give you?
Feb 09 21:48:57 <harrydog> nothing in terminal
Feb 09 21:49:19 <harrydog> a lot of stuff, here's the PATH line… PATH="/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11/bin:/usr/local/git/bin:/Users/mgoldberg/adt-bundle-mac-x86_64/platform-tools:/Users/mgoldberg/adt-bundle-mac-x86_64/tools"
Feb 09 21:50:04 <timroes> can you execute `/Users/mgoldberg/adt-bundle-mac-x86_64/tools/android` ?
Feb 09 21:50:15 <timroes> i would make sure to copy it from your path, not that you made a typo
Feb 09 21:50:25 <rootty> harrydog, try /Users/mgoldberg/adt-bundle-mac-x86_64/platform-tools:/Users/mgoldberg/adt-bundle-mac-x86_64/tools/adb
Feb 09 21:51:47 <rootty> '/Users/mgoldberg/adt-bundle-mac-x86_64/platform-tools/adb'
Feb 09 21:53:44 <harrydog>  source ~/.bash_profile restarts bash_profile and adds the path right?
Feb 09 21:54:48 <pierpark> guys... why does every GD thing added to Eclipse always have 5 billion errors? cant ever just file>new>other>android proj. from existing code, without 9/10ths of them never clearing out the errors and working. so frustrating. I've cloned many things from Git and cant ever seem to get them to work. I'll "Clean" them, and I'll even do the Fix Project Properties, etc... if I right click on
Feb 09 21:54:48 <pierpark> project and go to properties and see that there is a red X by some library it can't find, then I make sure to locate it, etc.. what's the deal?
Feb 09 21:55:17 <pierpark> just seems like this is a bit overboard to only be able to use 10% of what I clone to try and look at.
Feb 09 21:55:43 <rootty> what is GD?
Feb 09 21:55:53 <pierpark> god damn
Feb 09 21:55:56 <rootty> lol
Feb 09 21:56:00 <pierpark> :)
Feb 09 21:56:25 <rootty> as far as i understand, try to change JAVA compiler version to 1.6 it project properties
Feb 09 21:57:00 <pierpark> yeah that's what the Android Tools>Fix Project Properties is doing I believe?
Feb 09 21:57:16 <rootty> i am not sure about this
Feb 09 21:57:29 <rootty> try to do it manually
Feb 09 21:58:14 <pierpark> okidoke. care to experiment? I'll go find one of these repo's that aren't working for me and see if my stuff is fubarred
Feb 09 21:59:11 <pierpark> probably take me ten years. okay, for example..few weeks ago I tried to clone Last.fm stuff .. there's no way that was going to compile
Feb 09 21:59:25 <rootty> =(
Feb 09 22:00:38 <pierpark> AHH!! so I'm supposed to have JRE6 installed, right?
Feb 09 22:00:43 <fredcooke> rootty: I don't think it did jump VDs on me, but it may well have brought itself forward over what I was doing and I may well have been slightly confused at the time :-) Sorry. Still, not a fan so far. We'll see how I get on in future.
Feb 09 22:01:02 <Mystique> hey all - newbie - here
Feb 09 22:01:16 <pierpark> because I have JRE7 and it's the only one in the workspace settings that I just found by trying to locate that shiz manually... hmm... that might actually be the reason for it all going to hell every five minutes.
Feb 09 22:01:25 <Mystique> looking to build a working kernel with linaro..
Feb 09 22:01:27 <pierpark> hey Mystique, how's it going
Feb 09 22:01:40 <Mystique> I have 12.12 in ~/opt but i"m totally lost with how to tell it to use linaro..
Feb 09 22:01:56 <Mystique> *thought* it was editing the Makefile.. but that's not it :P
Feb 09 22:02:32 <Mystique> and I would have thought this was a simple thing.. but google tells me for the last two hours; it's not.. :)
Feb 09 22:03:04 <pierpark> everything you said made no sense to me. you're a more advanced newbie :)
Feb 09 22:03:11 <rootty> piepark, right-click on project -> properties -> java compiler -> java compliennce level 1.6
Feb 09 22:03:18 <Mystique> heh;
Feb 09 22:04:03 <Mystique> I have ~/opt/gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnuabihf-4.7-2012.12*_linux/
Feb 09 22:04:27 <rootty> Mystique, i think it isn't right chanell )
Feb 09 22:04:42 <rootty> from title  "Root/custom ROMs, head to #android-root"
Feb 09 22:05:00 <Mystique> and I want to use that [gcc,g++] to build an android kernel..
Feb 09 22:05:28 <Mystique> wrong channel for "I want to build an android kernel?" :)
Feb 09 22:05:40 <Mystique> (with a different compiler..) heh
Feb 09 22:05:40 <pierpark> Mystique, I think that's #android
Feb 09 22:05:47 <Mystique> they tossed me here. :P
Feb 09 22:05:54 <pierpark> ha
Feb 09 22:06:05 <Mystique> and #linaro is zzz
Feb 09 22:06:22 <Mystique> pressing #0 didn't get me a human that I could ask.. ;)
Feb 09 22:06:30 <pierpark> lmao
Feb 09 22:07:20 <Mystique> gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory
Feb 09 22:07:47 <Mystique> ./libexec/gcc/arm-linux-gnueabihf/4.7.3/cc1
Feb 09 22:08:09 <Mystique> hmm just edit the .profile?
Feb 09 22:09:50 <harrydog> ╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ idk what's wrong with my PATH variable
Feb 09 22:10:28 <rootty> harrydog,   does it work /Users/mgoldberg/adt-bundle-mac-x86_64/platform-tools:/Users/mgoldberg/adt-bundle-mac-x86_64/tools/adb    ?
Feb 09 22:10:33 <ceti331_> is it impossible to run c++ on android without a peice of java calling it
Feb 09 22:10:52 <harrydog> adb is in the platform-tools directory though
Feb 09 22:11:19 <ceti331_> q2 had anyone used QtCreator (c++ ide, not the qt frameworks) to compile, deploy, debug android-NDK applications
Feb 09 22:12:05 <rootty> harrydog, change script to use fullpath to adb ))
Feb 09 22:13:09 <harrydog> got it to work
Feb 09 22:14:45 <rootty> congratulations)))
Feb 09 22:15:28 <harrydog> i redownloaded the sdk and pointed to that instead, however for the heck if it i reset it back to the original path, that works now too apparently
Feb 09 22:15:34 <harrydog> oh well, least it works. thanks
Feb 09 22:16:02 <pierpark> hey rootty am I supposed to configure my windows path crap for eclipse somehow? like %ANDROID_HOME% stuff ? something has to be wrong with my setup somehow because this is so on and off with me ha
Feb 09 22:19:04 <rootty> piepark, for me Eclipse was working by default. Not sure, if i changed smth in my windows PATH
Feb 09 22:21:14 <pierpark> I've made about a dozen shitty apps... it's usually just when trying to clone a repo and get it into my workspace and compile it... I've had success with a few, but even those few I generally had to change code or do a couple of things (change to 1.6, and clean, etc)... but it just seems like there's something fishy going on, if these things seem to work 'out of the box' for some people
Feb 09 22:21:14 <pierpark> and then I do tons of stuff sometimes trying to get the errors cleared out to try and run it. I'm just thinking maybe I'm missing something or perhaps importing the project wrong? who knows.
Feb 09 22:23:40 <rootty> =(
Feb 09 22:29:25 <harrydog> so in phonegap, do i just start modifying the html/js/css files in the assets/www directory of my project?
Feb 09 22:29:40 <harrydog> i'm sure it's a little more complicated than that, but is that the basic startpoint
Feb 09 22:30:45 <rootty> harrydog, if your app at this moment can start, so yes. All app logic is edited in JS
Feb 09 22:31:10 <rootty> harrydog, take a look at jquery mobile and sencha touch
Feb 09 22:31:36 <harrydog> thanks, yeah i know of those, i have to handroll this one though, will use iscroll
Feb 09 22:31:58 <rootty> sencha touch looks prettier than jquery mobile. JqMobile is difficult to change default themes.
Feb 09 22:32:22 <harrydog> so, phonegap/cordova gives you an api, you make javascript calls to access the device services
Feb 09 22:33:16 <rootty> harrydog, yes. You can even write methods in JAVA in connect them via bridge if it is necessary.
Feb 09 22:33:50 <rootty> and connect*
Feb 09 22:34:06 <apollo13> hi, can I reuse Intent instances or should I create new ones whenever I need them?
Feb 09 22:34:18 <harrydog> so, only drawback i'm assuming is performances, versus using views
Feb 09 22:35:07 <rootty> i'm not sure I understand question correctly)
Feb 09 22:38:36 <pierpark> rootty: http://lifeofchance.com/excessiveerrors.jpg
Feb 09 22:38:52 <pierpark> thats kind of what I was yacking about
Feb 09 22:39:25 <Styler2go> Is there any smiley collection for android? :D
Feb 09 22:39:35 <Styler2go> which matches the android styleguide..^^#
Feb 09 22:39:59 <Silox|> http://i.stack.imgur.com/w1SZJ.png Does anyone has any idea how I can make the 'headers' not transparant?
Feb 09 22:40:07 <pierpark> Styler2go, not sure about that, but I've seen thousands of smiley collections that would work and are free/open.
Feb 09 22:40:24 <Silox|> I'd like to put a background: on it that is the same as the background of my app, but that background is set by Theme.Light
Feb 09 22:40:30 <pierpark> Silox|. DUDE. How did you get the wh- repo to compile??
Feb 09 22:40:42 <Silox|> pierpark: Hmm?
Feb 09 22:40:53 <Silox|> wh- repo?
Feb 09 22:40:55 <pierpark> Is that the White House or Congress app?
Feb 09 22:41:13 <Silox|> No, it's my own app for Ghent University :P
Feb 09 22:41:16 <Silox|> Why? :'D
Feb 09 22:41:17 <pierpark> Frick.
Feb 09 22:42:01 <pierpark> Because I thought maybe you'd have a solution to my horrid problems when trying to clone from GitHub and actually get to the point of compiling the android projects.. always end up with 5 billion errors everywhere in the source code.
Feb 09 22:42:18 <Silox|> Oh.
Feb 09 22:42:32 <Silox|> I have your solution!
Feb 09 22:42:37 <Silox|> Remove Eclipse, get Netbans!
Feb 09 22:42:40 <Silox|> Nah, jk.
Feb 09 22:42:55 <Silox|> Do you have the Maps API?
Feb 09 22:43:02 <pierpark> I'm not opposed to a different platform
Feb 09 22:43:02 <cooldman224> Anyone used apklib to create a android library in the local maven repo?
Feb 09 22:43:40 <pierpark> You know... that's a good question... I am on a different workspace than the one where I was using it... Isn't there some central location to put these re-used packages so that I dont have to go fiddlefk around to find them every time?
Feb 09 22:43:56 <Silox|> pierpark: What about Git? :P
Feb 09 22:44:08 <rootty> piepark, changing compiler version worked for me. But now I'm using Intellij IDEA )
Feb 09 22:44:26 <pierpark> as far as your transparent thing... I'm really not sure about that, other than to use custom adapter and set headers to a different xml than the rest of the stuff.
Feb 09 22:44:32 <Styler2go> guys. i am using the YouTubeAPI. can i play the "video" (musicvideo) in background?
Feb 09 22:44:52 <pierpark> Styler2go I think you can, but I think it's against their TOS.
Feb 09 22:44:55 <timroes> Styler2go: haven't you asked that today already? :)
Feb 09 22:45:02 <timroes> or was it someone else wanting to know exactly the same
Feb 09 22:45:08 <timroes> its against their TOS
Feb 09 22:45:57 <Styler2go> no i did not
Feb 09 22:46:01 <pierpark> yeah, that's what I was thinking. that's one of those #1 no no's I'd imagine. or I would have already done it ;) who wouldn't want the power of youtube to make a massive music collection ;)
Feb 09 22:46:11 <Styler2go> its only against their tos if its a paied app
Feb 09 22:46:24 <pierpark> okay so Intellij ... hmm. gonna go see what that's about
Feb 09 22:46:24 <Styler2go> or i am researching wrong...
Feb 09 22:47:09 <timroes> Styler2go: don't know their tos exactly, but someone earlier for that question posted the part, that tells it is forbidden to deassemble their stream for e.g. using just music from it
Feb 09 22:47:28 <Styler2go> so my app is illegal :D
Feb 09 22:47:32 <pierpark> Styler2go: probably should research on YouTube's policy pages _only_ for that information... the 'grapevine' tends to be less accurate sometimes
Feb 09 22:48:28 <Styler2go> what about making an overlay and play the video in this?
Feb 09 22:48:35 <Styler2go> how difficult is it to make a small overlay?
Feb 09 22:48:37 <pierpark> Silox| that's a good suggestion :/
Feb 09 22:49:17 <pierpark> you talking about making a frame that 'themes' the player window?
Feb 09 22:49:43 <Styler2go> no i mean an overlay which is visible everywhere...
Feb 09 22:50:01 <Styler2go> like those cheat engines if you know them
Feb 09 22:50:27 <pierpark> like... this: http://lifeofchance.com/agr.jpg
Feb 09 22:50:44 <pierpark> hmm.. not sure
Feb 09 22:50:51 <Styler2go> oh and yes timroes, now i know who u mean, i told him that he could just never set the view to the layout... :D
Feb 09 22:50:54 <Styler2go> no not like that
Feb 09 22:51:35 <Styler2go> wait i am searching...
Feb 09 22:51:41 <pierpark> k
Feb 09 22:53:15 <Styler2go> i cant find a picture of that.. but i mean like a normal window on windows.. it is visible on the homescreen and everywhere else...
Feb 09 22:53:59 <pierpark> ... almost following you
Feb 09 22:54:08 <pierpark> transparent?
Feb 09 22:54:19 <Quacked> like this, I assume, Styler2go: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/DTZSHt8GUPw/0.jpg
Feb 09 22:54:25 <Styler2go> yes!
Feb 09 22:54:58 <pierpark> so you're saying make the video the background image with UI controls on top of it?
Feb 09 22:55:13 <Styler2go> ?
Feb 09 22:55:15 <Styler2go> no...
Feb 09 22:55:24 <pierpark> what. the hell.
Feb 09 22:55:26 <pierpark> lol
Feb 09 22:55:44 <Styler2go> http://mobiles10.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/gamecih-Mobiles10-225x300.jpg
Feb 09 22:55:48 <Styler2go> this is angry birds
Feb 09 22:55:54 <Styler2go> on the top these buttons are another app
Feb 09 22:56:12 <Styler2go> and i want likr thiese buttons an own view, the video
Feb 09 22:56:16 <Quacked> Styler2go: http://cdn-static.cnet.co.uk/i/product_media/40002573/image3/440x330-samsung-galaxy-note-2-thumbs-on.jpg
Feb 09 22:56:41 <Styler2go> yeah like that
Feb 09 22:56:53 <pierpark> okay I'm brain fried. when you get that one figured out, I'd like to get un-fried by seeing it
Feb 09 22:56:54 <Styler2go> exactly like that with a video
Feb 09 22:57:19 <Quacked> in addition to the samsung video app there are a couple video players tha can do that
Feb 09 22:57:28 <Styler2go> yes
Feb 09 22:57:32 <Styler2go> but how can I do that? :D
Feb 09 22:57:56 <Quacked> no clue :)
Feb 09 22:58:01 <Styler2go> :D
Feb 09 22:58:15 <Styler2go> how is this called? this is an overly? isnt it?
Feb 09 23:00:14 <Styler2go> if i would do a widget... it would play half in background.. i think i will do that :D
Feb 09 23:05:03 <robb_www> has anyone been successful with the Dropbox Sync API lib?
Feb 09 23:06:39 <Quacked> I've got 16 buttons and 16 onLongClick listeners that start an Activity where user can change the text of the button. What's the best way for the app to remember the new text when app is restarted?
Feb 09 23:07:14 <robb_www> preferences?
Feb 09 23:07:37 <Quacked> I'll give it another go
Feb 09 23:09:11 <Tricknology> make sure you commit them
Feb 09 23:09:17 <Tricknology> Quacked
Feb 09 23:09:34 <Tricknology> or they won't save
Feb 09 23:09:42 <cooldman224> No one uses maven here?!?!
Feb 09 23:09:49 <Tricknology> Not I
Feb 09 23:10:08 <Tricknology> I don't even know what a maven is
Feb 09 23:10:12 <Quacked> yeah, but I would then need to do a setText on each of the buttons every time Activity is started?
Feb 09 23:10:16 <cooldman224> Oh man...
Feb 09 23:10:28 <Tricknology> probably
Feb 09 23:11:03 <Tricknology> unless you make a service to keep the buttons active in memory btu thats kinda bad practice
Feb 09 23:11:11 <Quacked> hehe
Feb 09 23:11:29 <Tricknology> you could make a hash map i think
Feb 09 23:11:37 <Tricknology> and store that in preferences
Feb 09 23:11:49 <Tricknology> then have a for loop go through it and populate your buttons onresume
Feb 09 23:12:08 <Quacked> yeah
Feb 09 23:13:13 <Tricknology> it will probably be pretty fast. I'm not sure if faster than loading each from prefs as a string.  you could 'tick tock' and find out :D the former would look prettier though
Feb 09 23:13:34 <Quacked> it would
Feb 09 23:13:35 <Quacked> :)
Feb 09 23:13:47 <Quacked> I'll figure something out :)
Feb 09 23:14:08 <Tricknology> yeah
Feb 09 23:14:14 <Tricknology> we always do..
Feb 09 23:15:52 <Styler2go> i think i will give this channel a bg credit in my app :D
Feb 09 23:17:37 <Tricknology> idk how you're gonna build the hash map but  if you use <String,Custom> it might not store in the prefs. use maybe HashMap<String button_name, String R.id.button> then you can do hashmap.toString() and put it in prefs as a string.  then to get it out call hash map = new HashMap<String,String>(string) i think. never tried that before but it works with JSON.  maybe you'll just want to use that
Feb 09 23:17:51 <timroes> Styler2go: on the participant screen the right icon does sort the list?
Feb 09 23:17:55 <Styler2go> oh is it possible to make a cube transition?
Feb 09 23:18:07 <Styler2go> yes, why timroes?
Feb 09 23:18:25 <timroes> in the dialog box where you choose, perhaps don't just say "Aktion: as title :)
Feb 09 23:18:37 <timroes> but perhaps something like "Sort by"
Feb 09 23:18:44 <Styler2go> you are right
Feb 09 23:18:47 <timroes> or in your case "Sortieren nach ... :
Feb 09 23:18:47 <Styler2go> thank you :)
Feb 09 23:19:16 <Styler2go> changed :)
Feb 09 23:19:42 <timroes> i am just looking through it, but from the first one a few days ago, if I would now download that app and look at it first time, I would say: hey a holo app, nice :)
Feb 09 23:19:51 <timroes> just the dashboard is still a bit... meh :D
Feb 09 23:20:08 <Styler2go> hey :( i liek the new homescreen :D
Feb 09 23:20:11 <robb_www> i cant seem to get the dropbox sync API to actually .. download the file contents
Feb 09 23:20:18 <timroes> Styler2go: definately better than the old one :)
Feb 09 23:20:18 <Styler2go> you can go into the participant list
Feb 09 23:20:27 <Styler2go> hold one item and chose the first action
Feb 09 23:20:37 <Styler2go> then it will slide on the dashboard :)
Feb 09 23:21:19 <timroes> ah thats also something, thats not soo much in any more :)
Feb 09 23:21:23 <timroes> long click -> context menus
Feb 09 23:21:30 <timroes> wouldn't have figured it out if you haven't told me now
Feb 09 23:21:35 <Styler2go> i am using this ver ymuch
Feb 09 23:21:58 <Styler2go> but everytime users are asking me things like "how can i download a video as mp3?!" and i have to say "you have to longcklick.."
Feb 09 23:21:58 <timroes> especially for list views there is a pretty nicer approach imho
Feb 09 23:22:26 <Styler2go> whats the better way?
Feb 09 23:22:52 <timroes> Styler2go: seraching screenshot mom :D
Feb 09 23:23:02 <Styler2go> k
Feb 09 23:23:46 <Styler2go> the very first version also had the holo layout.. then i decided uhm.. it looks boring.. now i am back to holo and i must say it just looks pretty :)
Feb 09 23:24:04 <Styler2go> the very first version had only a list :D
Feb 09 23:24:09 <Styler2go> no functions :D
Feb 09 23:24:39 <cakesoap> i saw a doc about integrating roboguice with android annotations but doesn't android annotations and roboguice do the same thing?
Feb 09 23:25:43 <Styler2go> what is guice doing?
Feb 09 23:26:35 <Styler2go> ah i see...
Feb 09 23:27:17 <timroes> Styler2go: http://s1.directupload.net/images/130210/b5dsgfd2.png
Feb 09 23:27:28 <Styler2go> hell yeah!
Feb 09 23:27:33 <Styler2go> how can i do this! :D
Feb 09 23:27:34 <cakesoap> dependency injection
Feb 09 23:27:36 <timroes> you make a small indicator on bottom of each element and ifyou tap thet area you open the overflow menu
Feb 09 23:27:36 <thenovelist> Anyone seen the "Your payment could not be processed at this time.  You may receive an email asking you to verify your account." when testing out IAB with a test account?
Feb 09 23:27:50 <timroes> Styler2go: no idea :D
Feb 09 23:27:53 <timroes> would have to think about it :D
Feb 09 23:28:07 <Styler2go> how is this called?
Feb 09 23:28:36 <timroes> hmmw ould have called it list indicator menu whatsoever :D
Feb 09 23:28:43 <timroes> not sure if it already has a name :D
Feb 09 23:29:01 <Styler2go> http://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/spinners.html almost like that
Feb 09 23:29:08 <Styler2go> maybe listview spinner
Feb 09 23:29:37 <Styler2go> i think this is exactly this only without text
Feb 09 23:29:44 <timroes> kind of but a spinner is more like a selecty box where the selected value stays in that field
Feb 09 23:30:03 <timroes> i just analysing google music app, perhaps I can see how they did it :D
Feb 09 23:30:12 <Styler2go> yeah but u could override the onselect event or something, i am sure :D
Feb 09 23:31:22 <timroes> Styler2go: I guess they make the icon with an imageview inside the whole layout for an list item (returned by your adapters getView)
Feb 09 23:31:45 <thenovelist> BTW with the new publish UI how do you upload an apk but not make it immediately public (e.g. publish it)?
Feb 09 23:31:48 <Styler2go> which app also uses this...
Feb 09 23:32:04 <Styler2go> thenovelist: i could not find a way to do that
Feb 09 23:32:08 <Styler2go> i changed toe view for that...
Feb 09 23:32:52 <timroes> Styler2go: in fact what the google music app dos when pressind that icon is just opening a regular pick dialog (like the one you already use)
Feb 09 23:33:06 <Styler2go> yeah? funny :D
Feb 09 23:33:08 <timroes> but at least you would have a better indicator on where to click :)
Feb 09 23:33:11 <Styler2go> so its just an image?
Feb 09 23:33:26 <timroes> yeah just an imageview or button with an image background
Feb 09 23:33:33 <timroes> to indicate where you can click
Feb 09 23:33:34 <Styler2go> thats poor :D
Feb 09 23:33:40 <timroes> since long click shouldnt be used for that anymore
Feb 09 23:33:50 <Styler2go> yeah i dont want to use it
Feb 09 23:33:51 <timroes> just for text selection or entering multiple selection mode on lists
Feb 09 23:34:08 <Styler2go> isnt the actionbar for that now?
Feb 09 23:34:20 <timroes> if you are in webbrowser how do you select text?
Feb 09 23:34:30 <Styler2go> holding
Feb 09 23:34:38 <Styler2go> i mean the multiple selection
Feb 09 23:35:04 <timroes> checkboxes yeah, but you can also use this long press mode
Feb 09 23:35:16 <Styler2go> hmm
Feb 09 23:35:25 <Styler2go> i dont want to use a simple button!
Feb 09 23:35:34 <Styler2go> i am thinking to relally use this spinner ...
Feb 09 23:35:44 <Styler2go> a button would be veeery easy i think
Feb 09 23:36:11 <Styler2go> oh.. no.. it isn't
Feb 09 23:36:38 <timroes> but spinner has another sense :)
Feb 09 23:36:45 <Styler2go> yes
Feb 09 23:36:58 <timroes> since you only has two options there might be another solution
Feb 09 23:37:14 <Styler2go> but: how can i add a secound onItemClick to a custom listview? :o
Feb 09 23:37:38 <Styler2go> i would ne a onitemclick in this button...?
Feb 09 23:41:37 <timroes> Styler2go: you would separate the click listeners. you would make one for the item and one for the left part of the laytou (and not the whole list item anymore)
Feb 09 23:42:40 <timroes> Styler2go: since you only have two options another form of list might be also possible: http://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/lists.html 2 LINE LIST 2nd list item
Feb 09 23:43:44 <timroes> insert icons to the right, that does what you want, you don't even need to change backgruond color then anymore for favorized items, but just use the filled star icon for favorzed and the empty star for as default
Feb 09 23:44:17 <Styler2go> yeah hm..
Feb 09 23:44:41 <Styler2go> so i would have to extend my custom list items by clicklisteners, right?
Feb 09 23:45:09 <timroes> you have to add onClickListeners for the buttons
Feb 09 23:45:15 <timroes> in both cases
Feb 09 23:45:22 <Styler2go> yes
Feb 09 23:45:31 <timroes> and you have to define the default clickable area somewhere to the left
Feb 09 23:45:42 <Styler2go> it would be great of the onItemClick listener would know what view got clicked inside that item :D
Feb 09 23:45:56 <timroes> or lets say it directly for your case: you have a linear layout
Feb 09 23:46:03 <cooldman224> Anyone used apklib to create a non pom android library to the local maven repo?
Feb 09 23:46:17 <timroes> right not the name and everything in the left, only takes as much space as it needs
Feb 09 23:46:29 <timroes> the video and comments textView fill the rest of the space
Feb 09 23:47:06 <Styler2go> ?
Feb 09 23:47:16 <timroes> switch this, so the right side needs only less sapce and the left linearlayout fills the space. then you can get clicks for that linear layout and do your default action, and you can normally register onclicklisteners for buttons or anything on the right :D
Feb 09 23:47:26 <timroes> yeah i guess someone else should help you, i am tired :D
Feb 09 23:47:34 <Styler2go> http://ft.trillian.im/f9a4bf4963860c6af13335c6d005f99c2496a025/6ejy4hU8JsREXYn1cIsp8bJHayzu4.jpg
Feb 09 23:48:04 <timroes> give the right lienarlayout android:layout_weight="0" and the left one android:layout_weight="1"
Feb 09 23:48:07 <StingRay_> hey I just renamed my app/package/project  .... problems so far ?   zero
Feb 09 23:48:07 <ceti331_> anyone know off hand if fopen from the NDK can get at the resources compiled in the APK
Feb 09 23:48:09 <ceti331_> i think you can put any files you want in res/raw/  ? my question is how to get them from native code
Feb 09 23:48:28 <Styler2go> StingRay_: i did the same at work, had no problems too
Feb 09 23:48:45 <StingRay_> not sure who in here, but they scared me about it all
Feb 09 23:48:53 <StingRay_> not sure what the fuss was
Feb 09 23:48:54 <StingRay_> :)
Feb 09 23:49:00 <StingRay_> "touch wood"
Feb 09 23:49:28 <Styler2go> timroes: this woudl destroy my layout
Feb 09 23:50:05 <timroes> so but anyway i am not off to sleep. see you tomorrow guys :) and as long advertising for my new lib Swipe to dismiss and undo (https://github.com/timroes/SwipeToDismissUndoList) -- now with less bugs and more aha moments :D
Feb 09 23:50:18 <ceti331_> i've tried "raw/filename"  "res/raw/filename"
Feb 09 23:50:26 <Styler2go> good night :)
Feb 09 23:50:28 <Styler2go> thanks :)
Feb 09 23:50:34 <timroes> you' re welcome
Feb 09 23:50:51 <timroes> perhaps if i watch at your app longer, i will even read what VBT actually is :D
Feb 09 23:51:02 <StingRay_> :)
Feb 09 23:52:33 <Styler2go> :D
Feb 09 23:52:43 <Styler2go> vbt is a rap battl etunier
Feb 09 23:52:48 <Styler2go> its "video battle turnier"
Feb 09 23:53:17 <ceti331_> yikes, googling it seems to say you need to interact with java to get at app resources?! is that really so?
Feb 09 23:58:05 <Styler2go> omg i hate it... every damn button is scaling up the backgroudn image
Feb 09 23:58:09 <Styler2go> why the hell...
Feb 10 00:02:14 <ceti331_> has anyone here used the NDK ?
Feb 10 00:02:45 <ceti331_> i've got as far as a little wrapper for passing touch input to C++, just trying to find how to get files in now
Feb 10 00:02:59 <ceti331_> does one really have to go throuh java for that ?
Feb 10 00:05:27 <StingRay_> Styler2go: cause your using it as a background
Feb 10 00:06:10 <Styler2go> hmm
Feb 10 00:06:16 <Styler2go> it was the minwidth and minheight
Feb 10 00:06:21 <Styler2go> changed it to match the image...
Feb 10 00:07:24 <StingRay_> your working in pixels ?
Feb 10 00:07:31 <Styler2go> dp
Feb 10 00:08:34 <StingRay_> whats your image ?
Feb 10 00:09:33 <Styler2go> ?
Feb 10 00:12:44 <StingRay_> well whats the image your using as a background ?
Feb 10 00:13:34 <Styler2go> http://ft.trillian.im/f9a4bf4963860c6af13335c6d005f99c2496a025/6ejzLQByhA72r3dt58woU6GTYpGRL.jpg
Feb 10 00:15:15 <HorizonXP> hey guys
Feb 10 00:15:20 <StingRay_> and your xml ?
Feb 10 00:15:25 <HorizonXP> i'm loking through the Android 4.2 source code
Feb 10 00:16:00 <HorizonXP> and I see this constant in com.android.gallery3d.common.ApiHelper
Feb 10 00:16:01 <HorizonXP> HAS_SURFACE_TEXTURE_RECORDING
Feb 10 00:16:01 <Styler2go> what xml?
Feb 10 00:16:15 <StingRay_> your layouts using that img
Feb 10 00:16:18 <HorizonXP> it's set to true if the version is greater than or equal to jelly bean
Feb 10 00:16:28 <HorizonXP> question is.. what is that referring to?
Feb 10 00:16:31 <StingRay_> Styler2go: cause I think your doing some odd things
Feb 10 00:16:37 <Styler2go> <Button                 android:id="@+id/buttonComm"                 android:layout_width="wrap_content"                 android:layout_height="wrap_content"                 android:layout_gravity="center"                 android:background="@drawable/social_chat"                 android:minHeight="48dp"                 android:minWidth="48dp" />
Feb 10 00:16:57 <HorizonXP> Is it saying that we can record video directly from a SurfaceTexture instead of having to use SurfaceView?
Feb 10 00:17:01 <StingRay_> Styler2go: ok then yeah, you kinda are
Feb 10 00:17:17 <Styler2go> what i am doing wrong?
Feb 10 00:17:18 <StingRay_> for that kind of use, you want an imageButton
Feb 10 00:17:26 <StingRay_> that adds image controls
Feb 10 00:17:43 <StingRay_> and the backbround is used as state list
Feb 10 00:17:43 <Styler2go> ok :)
Feb 10 00:17:52 <StingRay_> and src is the img
Feb 10 00:17:53 <Styler2go> but i can add a onclicklistener, yes?
Feb 10 00:18:04 <StingRay_> Image"""Button"""" <------
Feb 10 00:18:15 <StingRay_> you can add an onclick to ANY view
Feb 10 00:18:27 <StingRay_> but the word button should have given it away
Feb 10 00:18:28 <StingRay_> :)
Feb 10 00:18:42 <Styler2go> :D
Feb 10 00:18:44 <Styler2go> yeah
Feb 10 00:18:46 <Styler2go> didnt read
Feb 10 00:18:48 <Styler2go> its late :D
Feb 10 00:21:26 <ceti331_> is the whole android NDK just an afterthought
Feb 10 00:21:42 <cooldman224> Anyone know how to create a non pom android library in the local maven repo?
Feb 10 00:22:56 <[deXter]> fredcooke, Just read your comment in #android; INT2SD for the Desire. It's awesome (provided you have a fast SD card)
Feb 10 00:23:46 <fredcooke> int2sd, you say, is it opensauce? /me searches
Feb 10 00:24:01 <[deXter]> yes
Feb 10 00:24:39 <fredcooke> ok, help a n00b out, where do I go to get a copy?
Feb 10 00:25:42 <[deXter]> fredcooke, It's meant for ROM developers, so if you don't plan to compile your own ROM then look for a ROM that has INT2SD built in. It's by far the safest and fastest *2SD method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=628
Feb 10 00:25:51 <[deXter]> INT2SD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357257
Feb 10 00:26:09 <fredcooke> re fast SD, it's the stock 4 gig that came with it, still 1/4 full, she broke the screen inside about 3 months (still cracked, good thing in barcelona, keeps the thieves away) and doesn't do much past email usually :-)
Feb 10 00:27:54 <fredcooke> OK, so it's no good for using her phone as-is when she's not, then. I'm not planning to do anything much to the phone, except test code on it.
Feb 10 00:29:15 <[deXter]> Yep. One more option you could look up is re partitioning the phone. You could load a lighter ROM on to it, thereby allowing you to shrink the /system partition and increase the /data partition
Feb 10 00:30:07 <StingRay_> Styler2go: you switched ti imageButtons now then ?
Feb 10 00:30:23 <StingRay_> to*
Feb 10 00:31:24 <ceti331_> can anyone here recomend a decent way of reading raw files into C++ in android NDK programs
Feb 10 00:31:52 <ceti331_> preferably involving a minimum amount of faffing around with java
Feb 10 00:32:19 <ceti331_> infact preferably  purely from C++, no touching java at all
Feb 10 00:32:36 <ceti331_> since i have crossplatform code
Feb 10 00:32:54 <Styler2go> StingRay_: yeah i will but i am busy right now :D
Feb 10 00:33:12 <Styler2go> i dont know my login for paypal :D
Feb 10 00:34:50 <StingRay_> you mean you forgot ?
Feb 10 00:34:52 <StingRay_> oh deer
Feb 10 00:35:18 <Styler2go> i never use it :D but i want a little but in the new about screen :D
Feb 10 00:35:30 <Styler2go> maybe someone has too much money :D
Feb 10 00:35:41 <ceti331_> jesus ... java source directory layours anny the hell our of me
Feb 10 00:35:56 <ceti331_> ^annoy
Feb 10 00:36:55 <fredcooke> bad IDE?
Feb 10 00:37:20 <ceti331_> not even using an IDE at the minute
Feb 10 00:37:45 <ceti331_> i've gone from linux,windows,osx,iOS and now trying to get the project running on android
Feb 10 00:37:59 <ceti331_> IDEs tend to be tied to a platform
Feb 10 00:38:29 * fredcooke uses eclipse on windows, mac, and linux without any issue
Feb 10 00:38:30 <fredcooke> bed time
Feb 10 00:39:04 <ceti331_> visual studio, xcode for iOS; been using QtCReator lately for c++ in linux
Feb 10 00:39:31 <ceti331_> trying to avoid learning a new IDE ... i'm hoping i can just make a few stub functoins and just keep doing crossplatform C++
Feb 10 00:43:03 <melladric1> Guys, I'am using android's emulator to do stuff with the camera (following Android's guide
Feb 10 00:43:04 <melladric1> about it). I had problem with "MediaRecorder.setOutputFormat(..THREE_GPP)" and I've tried
Feb 10 00:43:04 <melladric1> "MediaRecorder.setProfile()" before. Should I use an actual device?
Feb 10 00:48:46 <Styler2go> StingRay_: now i have imagebutton^^
Feb 10 00:50:40 <Wavesonics> why does getColor from a TypedArray return an int... I dont see a great way to construct a Color obj from an int
Feb 10 00:51:00 <Styler2go> StingRay_: but now i have the default button background...
Feb 10 00:53:28 <StingRay_> well the idea is
Feb 10 00:53:45 <StingRay_> the background is your state list / or you do a style that does the same thing
Feb 10 00:53:50 <StingRay_> and the src is your image
Feb 10 00:54:26 <Styler2go> i want to do these buttons in a list and i want a button like this: http://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/lists.html right to the 2
Feb 10 00:59:21 <Styler2go> anyway.. i will go to sleep now.. good night!
Feb 10 00:59:48 <StingRay_> night pal
Feb 10 01:14:29 <ceti331_> heh, seem to have maanged to get some sort of fileio working in native code, not sure if my method is elegant though
Feb 10 01:14:41 <ceti331_> i pass 'context.getFilesDir().getAbsolutePath()' to C++ on startup and cache it as a global.
Feb 10 01:14:41 <ceti331_> not even sure if this relates to a good place to put assets?!
Feb 10 01:14:52 <ceti331_> is there some raw assets file location available that i could pass aswel;
Feb 10 01:19:36 <ceti331_>  can adb or similar list android directory contents at the commandline?
Feb 10 01:19:39 <spetsnoz> where is the compile-libs folder for installing AndroidAnnotations? Im using eclipse
Feb 10 01:22:37 <mdwright> ceti331_: adb shell
Feb 10 01:23:11 <ceti331_> thanks, i see it doesn't always give me permissoin..
Feb 10 01:23:29 <StingRay_> su
Feb 10 01:23:35 <ceti331_> ok
Feb 10 01:23:40 <mdwright> StingRay_: Only works if you have a rooted hone
Feb 10 01:23:42 <mdwright> but yes
Feb 10 01:23:43 <ceti331_> damn ny kaotio just overheated and shut down
Feb 10 01:23:51 <ceti331_> laptop ^
Feb 10 01:24:56 <ceti331_> ok so i can use "adb push  something   /data/data/com.android.appname/files" to get some data i could read into c++  i think..
Feb 10 01:25:19 <ceti331_> so far i've just been able to write & read files there from c++ to test it..
Feb 10 01:26:23 <ceti331_> i gather the aok is compressed, but theres a way if outtung raw fuk==iles in aswell?
Feb 10 01:27:06 <ceti331_> raw files ^ ,... sorry typing on  a spaammy keyboard here
Feb 10 01:29:06 <TheBunny> I read that as raw fuck lies...
Feb 10 01:29:09 <TheBunny> of all things
Feb 10 01:29:32 <ceti331_> that would appear to be exactly what i typed, with my fingers displaced
Feb 10 01:29:49 <ceti331_> i'm typing on a mac keyboard pushed asside from my laptop for IRC on an ipad
Feb 10 01:30:20 <pictron> Hey guys, when using AsyncTask, I get the following message for the doInBackground function
Feb 10 01:30:23 <pictron> The method doInBackground(String...) of type MainActivity.connectToBotnet must override or implement a supertype method
Feb 10 01:30:24 <TheBunny> happens to me all the time, switching between my mac, mac laptop and Dell
Feb 10 01:30:47 <TheBunny> worse when the KB is at a weird angle
Feb 10 01:31:53 <ceti331_> really not enjoying this c++/java overlap, but hopefully i just need to make this stub once and not deal with it much
Feb 10 01:33:30 <ceti331_> adb push hello.txt /data/data/com.android.gl2jni/files     .... "Permission denied"
Feb 10 01:33:49 <ceti331_> i can read & write in that location in C++ supposedly... how can i get files onto the device ?
Feb 10 01:34:23 <StingRay_> thats really for the app to use
Feb 10 01:34:30 <StingRay_> not to use as a lib folder
Feb 10 01:34:35 <StingRay_> as is my understanding
Feb 10 01:34:54 <ceti331_> so its for the apps own caches i guess
Feb 10 01:34:59 <StingRay_> well yeah
Feb 10 01:35:20 <ceti331_> can anyone advise on getting assets into the NDK
Feb 10 01:35:36 <StingRay_> dont you have a resouces dir ?
Feb 10 01:35:46 <ceti331_> ideally, i would like to be able to drop files o onto the device aswell manually
Feb 10 01:36:09 <ceti331_> eg give my app to a colleauge, and let him throw new art into a directory on the device for the app to run
Feb 10 01:36:29 <ceti331_> resources dir ... "res/" ?
Feb 10 01:36:57 <ceti331_> but how do i get at that in c++ .. isn't that compiled into some compressed file accessible from java
Feb 10 01:37:13 <StingRay_> sorry bud, no idea
Feb 10 01:37:19 <StingRay_> there should be docs though
Feb 10 01:37:47 <ceti331_> everything i'm seeing looks pretty convoluted :(
Feb 10 01:38:05 <ceti331_> like its really designed for java and anything going through C++ is a messy hack
Feb 10 01:38:36 <ceti331_> many ideas going through my head at the minute like putting the data on the network and making the app sync into that files dir itself..
Feb 10 01:39:37 <ceti331_> googling discussions i've even seen people suggest doing crazy sounding things like that - unpacking files java side and putting them in a place where C++ can get them :(
Feb 10 01:39:43 <ceti331_> it all looks awful
Feb 10 01:42:41 <ceti331_> i have my device visible as USB mass storeage on the pc,
Feb 10 01:43:01 <ceti331_> i can see Android/data/.... but strangely not my app there (GL2JNI sample)
Feb 10 01:43:36 <ceti331_> but i can see what looks like data directories for a lot of other programs there eg ROMs/Mame4Droid,  doom/...
Feb 10 01:44:17 <ceti331_> any idea if i can access this location from C++ ?  i dont think that would be the root of the filesystem . or would it ?
Feb 10 01:49:21 <canadiancow> why are you using c++?
Feb 10 01:49:46 <ceti331_> crossplatform GL project
Feb 10 01:50:00 <canadiancow> you're probably the first person who's given me a satisfactory answer when i've asked that :P
Feb 10 01:50:20 <canadiancow> unfortunately, my knowledge of the ndk is almost non-existent
Feb 10 01:50:30 * ceti331_ runs on iOS and linux desktop, PC primarily, may well have a D3D version later aswell
Feb 10 01:51:08 <ceti331_> googling more i keep running into this description of downloading or unpacking files for C++ to acess..
Feb 10 01:51:26 <ceti331_> some talk of having a small APK that then grabs its assets from elsewhere
Feb 10 01:52:09 <ceti331_>  i get the impression the ndk is an afterthought
Feb 10 01:55:25 <ceti331_> what are Mame4Droid and Freedoom doing.... they appear to have this directory which the user can drop files into  - that would suit me perfectly right now
Feb 10 01:55:51 <ceti331_> in both these cases, the user is able to  supply his own data for the app to run
Feb 10 02:04:01 <StingRay_> externalStorage()
Feb 10 02:06:03 <marco_> the android emulator is being a joke, why so slow??
Feb 10 02:06:15 <romainguy> marco_: because it's an emulator and not a simulator
Feb 10 02:06:23 <romainguy> the x86 version is a lot faster
Feb 10 02:06:30 <romainguy> especially if you enable GPU support
Feb 10 02:07:22 <marco_> romainguy: but iphone simulator on xcode is instantaneous almost.  and i'm only trying to open a hello world app here. I'm pretty sure i have x86
Feb 10 02:07:47 <romainguy> did you create an x86 AVD?
Feb 10 02:07:49 <romainguy> if not, try that
Feb 10 02:08:09 <romainguy> (and don't close the emulator every time you run your app in case that's what you are doing :)
Feb 10 02:08:11 <ceti331_> ahh.. abndroid glquak code, lets see what they  do
Feb 10 02:08:44 <ceti331_> android glquake on  code.google.com
Feb 10 02:09:00 <marco_> romainguyin: how do i create x86 AVD?
Feb 10 02:09:25 <StingRay_> marco_: enable the intel repo stuff in sdk manager
Feb 10 02:09:25 <marco_> romainguy: and nah im just trying to open it, i haven't seen what this hello world app does yet :P
Feb 10 02:09:35 <marco_> StingRay_: ah
Feb 10 02:09:37 <StingRay_> then get intel images
Feb 10 02:09:48 <StingRay_> dont know why they are not enabled by default
Feb 10 02:10:00 <StingRay_> or maybe they are, but weren't for me
Feb 10 02:15:02 <marco_> okay i've installed x86 AVD
Feb 10 02:15:15 <marco_> and checked the box for enable host GPU
Feb 10 02:15:22 <marco_> just opened the emulator
Feb 10 02:15:44 <marco_> will let you know once it's loaded
Feb 10 02:16:30 <StingRay_> 1st boot is init of all stuff, userspace etc
Feb 10 02:16:38 <StingRay_> but after that will be faf
Feb 10 02:16:56 <StingRay_> fast*as*f$@%
Feb 10 02:17:03 <StingRay_> :)
Feb 10 02:17:27 <marco_> it's still loading
Feb 10 02:17:41 <StingRay_> yeah, read above
Feb 10 02:17:48 <marco_> okay, I hope so :)
Feb 10 02:26:05 <marco_> so it loaded after 5 minutes and when it did everything ran fairly smoothly.  I closed the emulator to see how fast it would restart but it's still taking the same time to load.  It's frustrating but I guess I'll just have to live with it and not close the emulator everytime.. or I'll just use my computer instead of the laptop.  maybe my laptop's just not fast enough i dunno.  Thanks anyway
Feb 10 02:26:05 <marco_> guys!
Feb 10 02:28:29 <marco_> so it loaded after 5 minutes and when it did everything ran fairly smoothly.  I closed the emulator to see how fast it would restart but it's still taking the same time to load.  It's frustrating but I guess I'll just have to live with it and not close the emulator everytime.. or I'll just use my computer instead of the laptop.  maybe my laptop's just not fast enough i dunno.  Thanks anyway
Feb 10 02:28:30 <marco_> guys!
Feb 10 02:28:59 <romainguy> Or don't use the emulator :)
Feb 10 02:29:22 <StingRay_> romainguy: why is there no real api to access sms content ? people keep saying that content://sms is not reliable
Feb 10 02:29:37 <StingRay_> ?
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