**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Feb 23 02:59:58 2013
Feb 23 03:36:10 <tona> is there one way to select all my records sqlite and save them into xml
Feb 23 03:36:53 <relipse> use programming for that?
Feb 23 03:37:01 <relipse> generate the document yourself
Feb 23 03:38:44 <tona> ok one tutor to learn ow can i do it
Feb 23 03:42:37 <KillmeSoftly> hi
Feb 23 03:42:38 <KillmeSoftly> ok
Feb 23 03:54:06 <tona> is there one way to draw square or lines to  give some color to my application
Feb 23 04:12:55 <canadiancow> man this place really dies down on firday nights
Feb 23 04:14:28 <tona> how can do a inputbox in android
Feb 23 04:15:13 <canadiancow> like... an EditText?
Feb 23 04:15:18 <canadiancow> i'd advise you to read d.android.com/guide
Feb 23 04:16:10 <MajorZero> i'm retrieving a dateTime object from a webserver via JSON to my application...how can i parse it to java's dateTime??
Feb 23 04:16:47 <canadiancow> SimpleDateFormat or something like that
Feb 23 04:17:07 <MajorZero> so like,
Feb 23 04:17:15 <MajorZero> its in this order
Feb 23 04:17:35 <MajorZero> DATETIME object is inside "c" where c is a JSONObject
Feb 23 04:17:47 <MajorZero> now to retrieve the dateTime where would i store it in?
Feb 23 04:21:04 <fhowo> how to use phone G-sensor as Joystick Wheel via usb or wifi or BT without delay ?
Feb 23 04:21:34 <fhowo> is that safe  ?  http://www.guidingtech.com/14852/android-accelerometer-joystick-playing-games/
Feb 23 05:00:57 <Dattz> I am newbie and was checking out GCM using php: http://pastebin.com/rMytYRgj
Feb 23 05:02:00 <Dattz> I think I'm wrong with the keys and where to use them. I get Error: "Unauthorized Error 401" whenever i execute that.
Feb 23 05:04:22 <Dattz> Any help?
Feb 23 05:09:11 <Dattz> P.S. the api key i used is "Key for browser apps (with referers)". Is that what i should be using?
Feb 23 05:10:04 <Dattz> Nevermind. Used key for server apps, and it worked :)
Feb 23 05:21:27 <superlinux-hp> hi. is Admob 6.3.0 stable? can I depend on it?
Feb 23 05:43:59 <apple741> How do you guys feel about ads? To they take away from the quality of an app?
Feb 23 05:44:02 <apple741> *Do
Feb 23 05:44:55 <apple741> I was going to use them but I've noticed a lot of the top free games don't have them
Feb 23 05:50:40 <Dattz> According to me, they are lame..
Feb 23 05:50:50 <Dattz> They ruin the app
Feb 23 05:52:27 <g00s> you guys realize android is an add distribution platform XD
Feb 23 06:11:33 <Improv> Hey all, if I'm trying to debug an app, is there a good way to have one of my threads push some text into the "LogCat" thing that Eclipse gets?
Feb 23 06:14:25 <Improv> Oh, nvm. Found the log class.
Feb 23 06:18:10 <Improv> >:( ... really frustrating when a bound service never binds.
Feb 23 06:25:24 <superlinux-hp> hi. is Admob 6.3.0 stable? can I depend on it?
Feb 23 06:37:23 <apple741> Does the android store still have a max app size?
Feb 23 06:38:24 <Improv> I think, alas, not a lot of people are here to answer ?s right now
Feb 23 06:50:13 <monsti> apple741: yeah i think 500mb or 1gb
Feb 23 06:50:46 <apple741> monsti: cool thanks, I thought I read somewhere it was only 50mb lol so thats a relief :)
Feb 23 06:51:05 <monsti> simpsons is 75mb ;)
Feb 23 06:51:13 <monsti> there are games that are 500mb
Feb 23 06:56:38 <apple741> Thats a good point :)
Feb 23 06:56:51 <apple741> What ad service would you recommend for android
Feb 23 06:56:52 <apple741> ?
Feb 23 06:57:06 <apple741> If you don't mind me asking, there are so many available :)
Feb 23 07:09:46 <Improv> woot. Finally have this bound service thing working.
Feb 23 07:10:12 <Improv> Really frustrating to spend time sweating over code only to find that something's wrong in the manifest.
Feb 23 07:40:59 <Improv> I wish there were just a whitesmiths style built into eclipse.
Feb 23 07:41:09 <Improv> Configuring this manually is really irritating
Feb 23 07:41:19 <g00s> Improv: there is an eclipse style plugin
Feb 23 07:42:37 <Improv> Oh, there's this very nice formatting thingy; I don't really need a plugin, just a whitesmiths style.
Feb 23 07:42:45 <Improv> But that unfortunately means writing it.
Feb 23 07:43:55 <HorizonXP> hey
Feb 23 07:44:03 <HorizonXP> where do i file a documentation bug?
Feb 23 07:44:13 <HorizonXP> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/hardware/SensorManager.html <-- the example at the top is incorrect
Feb 23 07:44:24 <HorizonXP> you cannot get system services before the onCreate() function
Feb 23 07:46:19 <Improv> On the upside, I love eclipse's visual feedback on style definitions.
Feb 23 07:46:30 <Improv> It's a lot better than going over fiddly GNU Indent options
Feb 23 07:51:36 <viran> hey, where can i see the XML design of android built in controls? such as buttons, i need to find out how much margin/padding those buttons have on default
Feb 23 07:52:07 <HorizonXP> viran: download the Android source code and look through it I suppose?
Feb 23 07:55:45 <capella> android-sdk\sources folder isn't it?
Feb 23 07:56:18 <g00s> capella: i filed that bug ad put you as cc: :)
Feb 23 07:56:55 <capella> yah - im trying to recreate it .... my laptop wont double touch scroll (hadd it turned off) ... thinks I need to restart
Feb 23 07:57:17 <g00s> capella: have a mac ?
Feb 23 07:57:37 <capella> nah - wondered if it was mac specific .... yes?
Feb 23 07:57:47 <g00s> oh, i was only able to try it on mac
Feb 23 07:58:33 <capella> right - so i thought i'd explore a little
Feb 23 07:58:44 <g00s> ;)
Feb 23 07:59:02 <capella> ok - gotta drop out and back
Feb 23 08:30:22 <capella> meh - laptop fail - wont double touch scroll
Feb 23 08:37:50 <StingRay_> huh, I have a macbook pro, never actually thought to try multitouch in emu
Feb 23 08:37:57 <StingRay_> g00s: ?
Feb 23 08:38:16 <g00s> hey StingRay_
Feb 23 08:38:26 <StingRay_> you tried it ?
Feb 23 08:39:16 <g00s> StingRay_: not sure where we left off, try what ?
Feb 23 08:41:16 <Trinity> is carrier billing enabled automatically with in app billing?
Feb 23 08:47:49 <StingRay_> g00s: no i mean a few lines up, multi-touch macbook avd
Feb 23 08:49:01 <g00s> StingRay_: quick q: on your MBP, using Chrome, does the text for d.android.com not look as crisp as other websites ?
Feb 23 08:49:24 <g00s> mine looks like its not antialiased correctly
Feb 23 08:49:51 <g00s> i tried starting chrome with --disable-remote-fonts, thinking it was a sucky hinting in the Roboto font, but that was not it
Feb 23 08:55:32 <capella> g00s: ok, got the touchpad scroll working, and I see both window scroll mechanism are synched ... is that page design? I haven't look closer yet
Feb 23 08:56:13 <g00s> capella: only the frame the mouse is in should scroll, until you reach the end and the other page will scroll
Feb 23 08:56:19 <g00s> so i guess you see it too
Feb 23 08:56:54 <monsti> i love homer so much ;)
Feb 23 08:57:37 <capella> i see it ...
Feb 23 08:57:43 * capella viewing page source
Feb 23 08:58:02 <StingRay_> g00s: maybe cause they use off black and then mid grey
Feb 23 08:58:36 <StingRay_> I think they also have a silly subtle shadow on some text that makes it look messy
Feb 23 08:59:39 <g00s> one of the great features of FF is that i have it force serif/sans serif fonts for all web pages
Feb 23 08:59:55 * capella also, not using two finger scroll ... using one finger touch pad edge scroll
Feb 23 09:00:02 <g00s> renders beautifully in FF, just doesn't scroll right :/
Feb 23 09:00:27 <capella> ah - right ... fires up IE for compare
Feb 23 09:00:39 <StingRay_> g00s: what do you expect, tis the web, the most standardized not standard there is
Feb 23 09:00:45 <g00s> :)
Feb 23 09:00:56 <g00s> yeah but d.android.com makes my eyes bleed
Feb 23 09:01:08 <StingRay_> opera ?
Feb 23 09:01:14 <g00s> capella: if you can, compare a webkit browser
Feb 23 09:01:42 <g00s> StingRay_: i'm using Chrome on d.android.com
Feb 23 09:01:51 <StingRay_> yea
Feb 23 09:01:53 <capella> bah ... IE works as you predict
Feb 23 09:01:54 <StingRay_> try opera
Feb 23 09:02:07 <capella> guess I'll have to get opera
Feb 23 09:05:29 <capella> g00s: do you see it here also: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/package-summary.html
Feb 23 09:06:16 <g00s> capella: in FF, yes everything scrolls :)
Feb 23 09:06:55 <capella> scrolling on the right panel works ok (jusr that panel scrolls)
Feb 23 09:14:04 <g00s> there are a lot of things wrong with d.android.com; another is that i can not resize the rightmost list of things. it seems to be proportional to the browser width
Feb 23 09:14:18 <g00s> so a lot of longer interface names get cut off
Feb 23 09:14:40 <g00s> i thought the old site was more /usable/ although the new one might be better organized
Feb 23 09:15:37 <g00s> oops, i mean the leftmost list of things :)
Feb 23 09:18:16 * capella got another mozillian to admit he can repro it g00s...
Feb 23 09:18:43 <g00s> :)
Feb 23 09:18:45 <capella> which is good, cause he'll know who to get involved
Feb 23 09:19:13 <g00s> cool, thanks capella
Feb 23 09:19:54 <capella> brb when I know
Feb 23 09:27:45 <capella> g00s: fyi chrome works properly aiui ... though the vertical scrollbar indicator doesnt track properly
Feb 23 09:29:49 <g00s> capella: aiui ?
Feb 23 09:30:26 <capella> as i understand it ... sometimes I do stupid things :p
Feb 23 09:58:43 <g00s> Drakonite: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/02/22/sonoma-wire-works-cracks-the-code-finds-a-fix-for-the-low-latency-audio-in-issue-on-android/
Feb 23 10:18:17 <erdos> heeey there
Feb 23 10:18:22 <erdos> i'm chosing how i should save my data for my app, i'm trying to decide between serializing an array and saving to a file or using a database... how many entries do you think is a good amount before i need to start considering a database?
Feb 23 10:20:05 <Drakonite> g00s: it's a core problem with the spec though... google doesn't know what low latency audio and has screwed it all up.  there needs to be a real low latency requirement as part of the checklist
Feb 23 10:20:47 <Drakonite> g00s: it doesn't actually fix the problem for one or two handsets to have low latency support if there is no way to identify them :-/
Feb 23 10:20:55 <evident> hi everybody! Can anybody tell me how I can change the mode of my default shared preferences to MODE_MULTI_PROCESS?
Feb 23 10:27:10 <g00s> Drakonite: i understand, just like its not good for one or two handsets to have Bluetooth Low Energy
Feb 23 10:27:40 <g00s> BLE needs support within the framework
Feb 23 10:27:53 <g00s> (not just TI/broadcomm hacks)
Feb 23 10:27:58 <Drakonite> g00s: if they fixed the req flag for it to actually be sensible and force places to correctly flag deviecs, it would be a huge step
Feb 23 10:29:26 <Drakonite> I've been out of it for a while now though, I'm not sure what the current state is on new devices, but based on how we were blown off when we talked to them about low latency audio, I don't expect things to be better
Feb 23 10:30:56 <all_vs_one> erdos - think if serialising will not take too much memmory
Feb 23 10:31:26 <g00s> :(
Feb 23 10:31:51 <all_vs_one> in addition - storing in database allows you to use cursors for loading
Feb 23 10:32:44 <all_vs_one> easier to select what to load, update (it can be useful when you have deeply nested structureS)
Feb 23 10:33:26 <Drakonite> all_vs_one, erdos: the right answer completely depends on what kind of data you are actually saving, and what your access patterns are
Feb 23 10:35:53 <erdos> it's fairly database-y data (word, username, date), but it seems to add quite a lot of extra work to get it working with a database, i'm only expecting the app to need to store a couple of hundred rows... thoughts?
Feb 23 10:39:51 <erdos> hmm, i think i'll go with a database, just for the learning experience
Feb 23 10:40:43 <all_vs_one> erdos - good point
Feb 23 10:41:25 <all_vs_one> also you all the time is approach "getting shit done", and later "getting shit done in my way"
Feb 23 10:42:25 <erdos> hehe
Feb 23 10:42:37 <erdos> i'm only doing this project to learn the sdk, probably best not to cut corners!
Feb 23 10:43:19 <all_vs_one> then for sure databse
Feb 23 10:43:28 <erdos> :)
Feb 23 10:44:03 <all_vs_one> because it seems you know how to serialise, now you will learn db and in future you will know what to choose
Feb 23 10:44:40 <erdos> hey all_vs_one, what minsdk do you usually support?
Feb 23 10:45:44 <all_vs_one> I can't say usually support, because I am beginner
Feb 23 10:45:58 <erdos> ah hehe, we're in this together then!
Feb 23 10:46:13 <all_vs_one> but currently I am doing project where requirement is 2.2
Feb 23 10:46:30 <monsti> well i have this, too
Feb 23 10:46:34 <all_vs_one> and from experienced developers suggestion
Feb 23 10:46:34 <erdos> this seems to be about the standard
Feb 23 10:46:45 <all_vs_one> not to touch 2.1 and lower if possible
Feb 23 10:46:50 <monsti> an enterprise application that is no in the appstore
Feb 23 10:46:53 <SimonVT> If you're just getting started, and this is a learning project, support 4.0+
Feb 23 10:46:59 <monsti> and we are forced to keep on 2.2
Feb 23 10:46:59 <SimonVT> Legacy support is a whole topic in itself
Feb 23 10:47:11 <SimonVT> If you're making an actual product, 2.2/2.3
Feb 23 10:47:31 <erdos> thanks guys
Feb 23 10:47:36 <erdos> this seems like a good lively channel
Feb 23 10:47:42 <all_vs_one> erdos: http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html
Feb 23 10:47:58 <erdos> was just about to google for this thanks :)
Feb 23 10:48:11 <all_vs_one> also think about your country
Feb 23 10:48:20 <all_vs_one> what most popular phone
Feb 23 10:48:31 <erdos> wow that's a lot still on gingerbread
Feb 23 10:48:51 <SimonVT> If you have a simple 4.0+ app, supporting 2.2 later isn't really that much work
Feb 23 10:49:25 <all_vs_one> low end devices uses < 3
Feb 23 10:49:35 <erdos> i noticed in the lessons there seems to be some special packages you can use to support newer features in legacy systems
Feb 23 10:50:01 <erdos> actually, the docs for the sdk are really nice to read
Feb 23 10:50:08 <monsti> there are no real "features" that are only available in 4
Feb 23 10:50:10 <erdos> good documentation makes such a difference
Feb 23 10:50:20 <monsti> except those that depend on hardware
Feb 23 10:50:40 <SimonVT> Fragments (which you SHOULD use) and loaders are supported back to 1.6 via the support lib, even tho they weren't added until 3.0
Feb 23 10:50:42 <erdos> gotcha
Feb 23 10:50:56 <erdos> ahh yes that was what it was
Feb 23 10:51:12 <SimonVT> The action bar (also 3.0+) it supported back to 2.1 via ActionBarSherlock
Feb 23 10:51:53 <all_vs_one> ActionBarSherlock seems to be friendly lib
Feb 23 10:51:58 <SimonVT> If you want to support 2.2 from the start, use those two libraries
Feb 23 10:52:05 <erdos> cool
Feb 23 10:52:36 <SimonVT> And read this: http://simonvt.net/2012/02/07/what-api-level-should-i-target/
Feb 23 10:52:49 <SimonVT> Typical beginner mistake
Feb 23 10:53:03 <erdos> aaaalright, will read right now
Feb 23 10:53:06 <erdos> thanks :)
Feb 23 10:53:47 <all_vs_one> and beginners tip - if you developing on virtual machine
Feb 23 10:54:01 <all_vs_one> prepare environment for hardware virtualisation
Feb 23 10:54:35 <all_vs_one> notable speed difference
Feb 23 10:54:49 <erdos> u mean using the emulator?
Feb 23 10:55:07 <erdos> i got a sII, but yeah, i've definitely seen the difference!
Feb 23 10:55:26 <all_vs_one> http://developer.android.com/tools/devices/emulator.html#acceleration
Feb 23 10:55:44 <erdos> oh that's handy
Feb 23 10:55:48 <erdos> thanks!
Feb 23 10:56:01 <Melvinkelvin> my app intends to timeout really often when trying to invoke my webservice. Every second attempt is timed out.. I wonder if someone can help me out and see if there is some possible troubles in my http code: http://pastebin.com/NwqKLN4r
Feb 23 10:56:52 <all_vs_one> at least on mac book (2010) it was notable acceleration
Feb 23 10:58:33 <all_vs_one> Melvinkelvin - this occurs even on VM?
Feb 23 11:00:55 <Melvinkelvin> I have only tested it on several rea devices
Feb 23 11:00:57 <Melvinkelvin> real*
Feb 23 11:01:25 <Melvinkelvin> when it happens, if I clean the memory and restart the app it works fine
Feb 23 11:01:38 <all_vs_one> can't it be real network problems?
Feb 23 11:01:41 <Melvinkelvin> but when I sit and debug, restarting the debugging every now and then then it happends
Feb 23 11:02:30 <Melvinkelvin> this is the output I see in logcat: http://pastebin.com/Pxhzy24a
Feb 23 11:02:45 <Melvinkelvin> alot of apache http warnings
Feb 23 11:04:09 <all_vs_one> I can't help a lot, but check the server too
Feb 23 11:04:53 <stummi> Hi, can i use the new Map API when developing for older android-versions, like 2.2?
Feb 23 11:05:12 <stummi> will the app work on this devices?
Feb 23 11:07:04 <all_vs_one> Melvinkelvin: try to google rest android
Feb 23 11:08:11 <all_vs_one> http://technicalmumbojumbo.wordpress.com/2012/01/19/android-tutorial-restful-webservices-google-maps-integration/
Feb 23 11:21:24 <mephju> Hi just dumped the view hierarchy of an app and I am seeing something interesting... There is View object and inside of it. there is a webkit view
Feb 23 11:21:31 <mephju> How did they manage to get it in there
Feb 23 11:22:57 <clever> mephju: what is the class of that view?
Feb 23 11:23:39 <mephju> clever, android.webkit.WebView
Feb 23 11:24:08 <mephju> and it's inside of android.view.View
Feb 23 11:24:22 <mephju> like View is a ViewGroup, which ofcourse, it isn't
Feb 23 11:26:57 <mephju> supposing I have the View object...how could I access the WebView object
Feb 23 11:28:13 <clever> mephju: are you sure its a bare View?
Feb 23 11:28:29 <mephju> that's what the view dump says
Feb 23 11:28:33 <mephju> yes. totally sure
Feb 23 11:28:57 <clever> weird
Feb 23 11:30:20 <mephju> clever, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19948722/Screenshot%20from%202013-02-23%2012%3A29%3A19.png
Feb 23 11:31:04 <mephju> on the right of that image, you can see the view hierarchy
Feb 23 11:33:56 <clever> weird
Feb 23 11:34:20 <mephju> and to be honest, I want to access that webkit... do you know a way how to get it?
Feb 23 11:35:01 <clever> mephju: i would just replace the view with a linearlayout
Feb 23 11:35:32 <mephju> how can I do that. wouldn't the child, which is the webkit, be replaced too
Feb 23 11:36:12 <clever> just edit the xml before compiling the project
Feb 23 11:36:34 <mephju> ah no no
Feb 23 11:36:59 <mephju> it's not possible...the view is injected into my linearlayout dynamically
Feb 23 11:37:06 <mephju> via code..
Feb 23 11:37:17 <clever> can you edit that code?
Feb 23 11:37:50 <mephju> and there is no way to retrieve the WebView...no it's just class files ...the api gives me no access to the webkit
Feb 23 11:38:29 <mephju> If I would understand how to place a webview inside of a view, I could maybe find a way
Feb 23 11:38:56 <clever> id get an instance of that View and then test if (v instanceof ViewGroup)
Feb 23 11:41:45 <mephju> that's worth trying
Feb 23 11:45:39 <StingRay_> if I have access to a group of testers and others do too... what ways can that group make sure that the app they are testing is not malicious in any way or that the dev is accountable for it ?  any ideas ?
Feb 23 11:49:12 <AeroNotix> Anyone familiar with both Qt and the Android platform? I'd like to ask some questions about android by making comparisons to Qt.
Feb 23 11:51:37 <mephju> clever, thx, it's a viewGroup indeed...
Feb 23 11:51:44 <mephju> strange :)
Feb 23 11:52:16 <clever> mephju: try Log.v(TAG,"v is "+v);
Feb 23 11:52:20 <clever> mephju: what does it print?
Feb 23 11:54:39 <mephju> clever: view is com.openx.ad.mobile.sdk.views.OXMAdBannerViewImpl@41457dd8
Feb 23 11:55:33 <clever> mephju: ah, so its not a View, its a custom View within that package
Feb 23 11:55:53 <clever> and the view dumper probly cant handle that, so it just says its a view
Feb 23 11:56:06 <clever> com.openx.ad.mobile.sdk.views.OXMAdBannerViewImpl likely extends ViewGroup or LinearLayout
Feb 23 11:56:14 <mephju> clever, just wanted to say that :)
Feb 23 12:07:19 <AeroNotix> Alternatively, what's the support for Qt apps on Android? I'm watching a talk at the moment which suggests it's possible.
Feb 23 12:08:31 <mephju> clever, man this is great. I had a problem which was threating the success of the whole project. But now I can just circumvent it, thx man. Hope I can help you too one day
Feb 23 12:12:24 <socket> When a user hits the device back button the activity gets paused?
Feb 23 12:13:40 <clever> socket: ive found that the back button always destroys the activity
Feb 23 12:14:33 <ray122> Hey there, I got one question regarding listviews / expandable listviews: In case I got 2 or more buttons in each row, how do I detect which button has been clicked?
Feb 23 12:15:06 <clever> ray122: i usualy bind an onclicklistener within the adapters getview call
Feb 23 12:15:31 <ray122> clever: ok I ll try that, thanks!
Feb 23 12:15:42 <clever> ray122: let me pastebin an example
Feb 23 12:16:01 <clever> ray122: http://privatepaste.com/ee1a687492
Feb 23 12:16:16 <ray122> clever: perfect thanks
Feb 23 12:16:24 <clever> ray122: in this case, there is a new instance of OnClickListener for each button and row, and they all reference the holder obj
Feb 23 12:16:37 <clever> if the row gets recycled, get the holder (last line) and change the id inside it
Feb 23 12:19:58 <root66> hmm, simpsons "tapped out" seems an awful lot like a reskinned "men in black" game
Feb 23 12:20:10 <root66> which is probably just a reskin of another existing timesink game
Feb 23 12:20:50 <root66> I wonder why Eve Online is not on android yet, considering its graphics are not demanding and people are brutally addicted
Feb 23 12:22:53 <clever> root66: many of the hud elements would be tricky to render with the normal ui toolkit
Feb 23 12:22:56 <clever> would need a lot of custom views
Feb 23 12:25:55 <root66> huh?
Feb 23 12:26:18 <clever> if its the same eve as the one i'm thinking of
Feb 23 12:26:27 <superlinux-hp> hi, how can i make use of Eclipse's syntax highlighter library in my android project? i want to color the code that i type in Edittext.
Feb 23 12:26:45 <root66> I played eve for a month and don't recall anything that couldn't easily be done on andriod
Feb 23 12:27:04 <clever> root66: the round progress bars for sheild/armor/structure mainly
Feb 23 12:27:47 <root66> dude no one uses the normal ui toolkit for making professional games
Feb 23 12:27:59 <clever> ...., i have been :P
Feb 23 12:28:17 <root66> *professional* games
Feb 23 12:28:23 <clever> http://gallery.earthtools.ca/index.py/android/device-2013-01-16-212816.png
Feb 23 12:28:24 <root66> no offense
Feb 23 12:28:41 <clever> root66: although this doesnt use seperate views for the ui objects, only the number plates
Feb 23 12:29:01 <clever> the layering was too much of a pain, so i just did it manualy in onDraw
Feb 23 12:29:31 <root66> I am not going to pretend that it always makes more sense to do it all in GL or that every professional game ever has not used native ui elements
Feb 23 12:29:53 <root66> but it's rare
Feb 23 12:30:06 <clever> ive only been at this for ~2 months now
Feb 23 12:30:35 <root66> as an analogy, I am working on something in html/javascript right now that everyone said I should do using canvas
Feb 23 12:30:41 <root66> I decided to do it all using divs and it works great
Feb 23 12:30:46 <root66> probably saved me days of work
Feb 23 12:31:02 <root66> but it's not a typical case
Feb 23 12:31:06 <clever> the game i'm basing this on is writen in qx
Feb 23 12:31:12 <clever> which literaly spams <div>'s everywhere
Feb 23 12:31:16 <root66> ah
Feb 23 12:31:17 <clever> a simply button has 5 or 6 divs
Feb 23 12:31:29 <clever> and not a single div, anywhere, has id= on it
Feb 23 12:31:32 <root66> check this out: http://johnnystreet.com/audio.html
Feb 23 12:31:40 <root66> work in progress
Feb 23 12:31:45 <clever> Your browser does not implement createScriptProcessor. The animated gain indicator will not be active. If you are using Chrome, consider updating.
Feb 23 12:32:07 <root66> yep
Feb 23 12:32:13 <clever> hmmm, not sure what it can do
Feb 23 12:32:28 <root66> try loading the first preset
Feb 23 12:32:35 <root66> it might still work just without any graphical output
Feb 23 12:32:38 <clever> cant click on those, its greyed out
Feb 23 12:32:44 <clever> ah
Feb 23 12:33:03 <clever> dont hear anything
Feb 23 12:33:06 <root66> press play
Feb 23 12:33:11 <root66> on the clock
Feb 23 12:33:13 <clever> dont see a play button
Feb 23 12:33:16 <clever> or a clock
Feb 23 12:33:21 <root66> did you load the first preset?
Feb 23 12:33:29 <clever> yeah, i loaded one and connected it
Feb 23 12:33:50 <root66> if you clicked the preset dropdown and choose the first one, it adds some stiff and connects it all for you
Feb 23 12:33:50 <StingRay_> clever: I love your little building art
Feb 23 12:34:09 <root66> anyway it might not work on your browser. sounds like it's out of date
Feb 23 12:34:11 <clever> StingRay_: all of that was copied from the original game, i'm just replacing the js client with an android one
Feb 23 12:34:16 <StingRay_> oh
Feb 23 12:34:23 <StingRay_> I love that stuff though
Feb 23 12:34:29 <clever> root66: Sorry, Your browser does not support the Web Audio API. Please try Chrome 10+ or Safari 6+. if i try to use firefox
Feb 23 12:34:42 <root66> yeah, it means what it says
Feb 23 12:34:44 <root66> firefox sucks
Feb 23 12:34:50 <root66> no web audio api
Feb 23 12:35:23 <clever> root66: i have seen some gameboy emulators using data: urls in <audio> before, to play audio clips
Feb 23 12:35:29 <clever> but thats pretty hacky
Feb 23 12:36:43 <root66> firefox defied the early w3 specs and tried to do things their own way
Feb 23 12:36:54 <root66> now they are backpedalling and hopefully adding it in the next major version number
Feb 23 12:37:03 <root66> using the w3/chromium specs
Feb 23 12:37:29 <root66> it implements <audio> but not the web audio api
Feb 23 12:39:38 <clever> root66: dont currently have any winblows systems up, so i cant use the latest chrome
Feb 23 12:39:59 <root66> linux or mac?
Feb 23 12:39:59 <clever> i just finished ditching winblows and i'm finishing off another linux install
Feb 23 12:40:03 <root66> ah
Feb 23 12:40:14 <clever> it locks up constantly, with no signs as to why
Feb 23 12:40:14 <root66> it works on chrome for mac. I guess linux is a little behind on webkit updates.
Feb 23 12:40:24 <clever> na i am, i havent ran any updates in ages
Feb 23 12:40:38 <clever> windows would first loose all network, then ~5 seconds later, the whole system freezes
Feb 23 12:40:53 <clever> and after another 5 sec, everything recovers
Feb 23 12:40:53 <clever> repeat 20 times in 30 mins
Feb 23 12:41:04 <clever> and only if i'm watching netflix
Feb 23 12:41:09 <root66> bad software, or driver issue
Feb 23 12:41:12 <clever> if i'm on anything else, work just fine :P
Feb 23 12:41:32 <root66> netflix uses flash, doesn't it?
Feb 23 12:41:37 <clever> silverlight
Feb 23 12:41:59 <root66> so you are using microsoft silverlight to watch netflix from linux?
Feb 23 12:42:01 <root66> :P
Feb 23 12:42:05 <clever> going to
Feb 23 12:42:13 <clever> i need to compile wine with a few patches to make it work
Feb 23 12:42:18 <root66> jesus christ
Feb 23 12:42:29 <root66> your nickname deceives you
Feb 23 12:43:10 <clever> i could also reroute the traffic from the PS3 to fool the geolocation and get that working again
Feb 23 12:43:26 <clever> [ 3778.720805] Out of memory: Kill process 4536 (cc1) score 109 or sacrifice child
Feb 23 12:43:30 <clever> oops
Feb 23 12:43:38 <clever> forgot to enable swap at bootup, lol
Feb 23 12:44:16 <clever> ok, thats better
Feb 23 12:45:08 <clever> root66: netflix is going a lot of heavy filtering, based on my location
Feb 23 12:45:20 <clever> so all the good shows are locked out
Feb 23 12:45:26 <lasserix> netflix needs a refresh option or it needs to go out of business
Feb 23 12:45:55 <clever> ive managed to rig up a custom proxy for the silverlight player
Feb 23 12:46:00 <clever> but that breaks the android and ps3 players
Feb 23 12:51:15 <evident> Can I check somehow whether a user has updated an app or if it's a new install?
Feb 23 13:47:37 <tona> hello guys
Feb 23 13:49:29 <tona> i am trying to make this but i am getting one error 	SQLiteDatabase db=this.getReadableDatabase();   thi is my full code
Feb 23 13:53:35 <tona> can someone help me
Feb 23 13:59:05 <xorgate> tona what's your full code
Feb 23 14:00:29 <tona> http://pastebin.ca/2316857
Feb 23 14:00:32 <tona> here is
Feb 23 14:02:38 <clever> tona: http://imgur.com/jacoj
Feb 23 14:03:02 <Rob|boR> hey guys
Feb 23 14:03:23 <xorgate> tona you need to subclass SQLiteOpenHelper
Feb 23 14:03:37 <xorgate> which uses DatabaseHelper
Feb 23 14:03:42 <Rob|boR> does anyone have source code for a program that has fixed tabs + swipe?
Feb 23 14:03:55 <xorgate> hm never mind that last part
Feb 23 14:03:56 <Rob|boR> I would like to use it as reference, and see how the fragments are being used
Feb 23 14:05:43 <tona> ok can you guide me i am new with this
Feb 23 14:06:07 <tinti> Hi concerning Google Certification, if I pass CTS does Google care if I use Cyangenmod, Linaro or AOSP?
Feb 23 14:06:22 <xorgate> tona: d.android.com has a Notepad tutorial, check that
Feb 23 14:14:14 <stummi> can i use the new Map API when developing for older android-versions, like 2.2?
Feb 23 14:18:26 <Zharf> I seem to recall reading that you could, but I can't find the info right now, stummi
Feb 23 14:18:33 <Zharf> try it?
Feb 23 14:18:33 <Zharf> :)
Feb 23 14:20:19 <Melvinkelvin> I am looking for a slution where a edittext on the fly transform lower case to uppercase.. are there any solutions for this or is "hacking" the only way to go?
Feb 23 14:21:18 <mahmoud__> How to call an inner AsyncTask inside from outside the enclosing Activity?
Feb 23 14:21:46 <Zharf> Melvinkelvin, I think you can do that in textchangedlistener
Feb 23 14:23:42 <Melvinkelvin> Zharf: I will look into it
Feb 23 14:23:44 <Melvinkelvin> thanks
Feb 23 14:29:13 <mahmoud__> How to call an inner AsyncTask from outside it's enclosing Activity?
Feb 23 14:32:30 <erdos> what the
Feb 23 14:32:40 <erdos> can a sqlitedatabase connection not be reopened?
Feb 23 14:35:28 <zzattack> can we scale the padding of a view with screen dimensions?
Feb 23 14:36:13 <StingRay_> zzattack: course, if you do it yourself
Feb 23 14:36:28 <BullShark> hi StingRay_
Feb 23 14:36:31 <zzattack> right. in xml i mean :)
Feb 23 14:36:31 <StingRay_> or you can use dimen with screen qualifiers like -xhdpi etc
Feb 23 14:36:34 <BullShark> how can i have the avd running without it locking up eclipse?
Feb 23 14:36:57 <zzattack> i prefer keeping just two layouts, one for portrait and one for landscape
Feb 23 14:37:05 <StingRay_> BullShark: it dont lock up, you have something wrong there
Feb 23 14:37:38 <StingRay_> zzattack: then you will need to make values/dimensions in xml for all the various screen qualifiers and call on them
Feb 23 14:37:38 <BullShark> eclipse is waiting for me to close the avd or the avd manager before i can use eclipse. yes, it waits. i am using eclipse adt bundle (includes sdk integrated)
Feb 23 14:38:02 <StingRay_> BullShark: well you close the manager
Feb 23 14:39:08 <stummi> another question to the map api: Some maps can bee zoomed in by double tapping on point. Is this something i just can "activate" if i want it in my app too?
Feb 23 14:39:11 <FireAndIce> Hi everyone!
Feb 23 14:39:16 <stummi> (old map api)
Feb 23 14:39:32 <FireAndIce> How does google+ app load content even without internet connection?
Feb 23 14:39:33 <AeroNotix> Anyone familiar with both Qt and the Android platform? I'd like to ask some questions about android by making comparisons to Qt.
Feb 23 14:39:34 <xorgate> stummi you need to do that yourself
Feb 23 14:40:04 <stummi> okay. I think that shouldn't be too hard
Feb 23 14:40:11 <xorgate> stummi GestureDetector setOnDoubleTapListener
Feb 23 14:41:17 <StingRay_> FireAndIce: cache ?
Feb 23 14:41:36 <FireAndIce> StingRay_, or does it use sqlite database?
Feb 23 14:42:04 <StingRay_> cache is not an object or class, so it can do anything it wants
Feb 23 14:42:07 <StingRay_> images
Feb 23 14:42:10 <StingRay_> binaries
Feb 23 14:42:13 <StingRay_> databeases
Feb 23 14:42:16 <StingRay_> cached
Feb 23 14:43:49 <FireAndIce> StingRay_, I need my application to show previously loaded data when there is no internet connection, to make it responsive.
Feb 23 14:43:54 <FireAndIce> any resources?
Feb 23 14:44:13 <StingRay_> store them
Feb 23 14:44:15 <StingRay_> :)
Feb 23 14:44:31 <StingRay_> http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/data-storage.html
Feb 23 14:44:56 <FireAndIce> ok.. thanks. I'll check it out.. :)
Feb 23 14:47:33 <AeroNotix> In Qt, each widget inherits from QObject - in Android to select an element I need to use things like findViewById with which I need to cast, I assume then, due to the casting that it means that Android widgets inherit from some base class?
Feb 23 14:49:26 <Zharf> View
Feb 23 14:49:47 <Zharf> well, android.view.View
Feb 23 14:52:03 <Chainfire> I love all these SGS 4 spec leaks
Feb 23 14:52:53 <Chainfire> especially how they get people to email my support box asking if some app will be compatible with the SGS 4 ... as if I already had one ;)
Feb 23 14:53:26 <Zharf> why wouldn't it be compatible though
Feb 23 14:53:32 <AeroNotix> Zharf: ok
Feb 23 14:55:09 <AeroNotix> In Qt you have a main event loop, if you want to run threads and then interact with Widgets in a safe way, you emit events from the sub-threads back to the main event loop and they will be responded to when the event loop gets around to it.
Feb 23 14:55:15 <AeroNotix> In android
Feb 23 14:55:43 <Zharf> you can use runOnUiThread or create a handler in the ui thread and post stuff to that
Feb 23 14:55:43 <AeroNotix> I'm trying to spawn a thread which will make a web request, at the same time as kicking off a ProgressBar, it seems that the subthread then doesn't own the view hierarchy and I get an exception
Feb 23 14:55:48 <Zharf> -> sauna
Feb 23 14:56:16 <AeroNotix> ok
Feb 23 14:56:17 <Zharf> or you can use AsyncTask instead of Thread
Feb 23 14:56:33 <Zharf> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/AsyncTask.html
Feb 23 14:56:36 <AeroNotix> Which is better?
Feb 23 14:57:35 <AeroNotix> well, I am afk
Feb 23 15:07:46 <robertj> does the SDK allow you to set voice control into any sort of monitoring mode? I want to do a hands-free shopping list app
Feb 23 15:08:18 <robertj> so that when i'm going around the grocery store i can just mumble 'got that' into my headset and get ready for the next item
Feb 23 15:10:30 <capella> hmmm ... just like warehouse inventory picker software
Feb 23 15:11:51 <robertj> capella, sorta yeah
Feb 23 15:12:16 <robertj> capella, this is actually an offshoot of an idea I had for glass
Feb 23 15:12:18 <robertj> but glass is expensive :P
Feb 23 15:22:52 <Ge0rG> how much battery is eaten by keeping an nfc tag connected to the device? :>
Feb 23 15:23:43 <StingRay_> Ge0rG: measure it
Feb 23 15:24:00 <StingRay_> will be different from device to device I would expect
Feb 23 15:31:53 <ambro718> how do I make it so that my activity is opened, the first editable field is not selected and a keyboard shows up to edit it?
Feb 23 15:32:43 <StingRay_> "the first editable field is not selected and a keyboard shows up to edit it?"  <---  you want it focused and keyboard up ?
Feb 23 15:32:52 <StingRay_> or the opposite ?
Feb 23 15:33:11 <ambro718> StingRay_: I want no editable field focused when activity is entered, and let the user click on the ones he wants to edit
Feb 23 15:33:20 <ambro718> he usually won't have to edit any field
Feb 23 15:33:44 <StingRay_> ah then maybe use a <requestFocus/> tag on another view in that layout
Feb 23 15:33:56 <StingRay_> think thats what the tag is called
Feb 23 15:34:13 <StingRay_> if you start typing it... sure you will find it :)
Feb 23 15:41:05 <ambro718> this did it, http://stackoverflow.com/a/2611031/1020667
Feb 23 15:41:27 <StingRay_> that too
Feb 23 15:41:39 <StingRay_> but requestFocus is a word
Feb 23 15:41:44 <StingRay_> so tis a little shorter :)
Feb 23 15:42:00 <ambro718> requestFocus doen't do what I need
Feb 23 15:42:14 <ambro718> it can just move the focus to another field
Feb 23 15:42:20 <StingRay_> well no
Feb 23 15:42:30 <StingRay_> it can move the focus of ALL editTExts
Feb 23 15:42:39 <StingRay_> but focusing on another view
Feb 23 15:42:40 <StingRay_> :)
Feb 23 15:43:31 <ambro718> I tried to requestFocus a button, it didn't work :)
Feb 23 15:43:44 <StingRay_> erm
Feb 23 15:43:56 <StingRay_> a button is not focusable
Feb 23 15:44:03 <StingRay_> not by default I dont think
Feb 23 15:44:08 <StingRay_> ok should have said
Feb 23 15:44:18 <StingRay_> any view that is focusable or that you make focusable
Feb 23 16:05:07 <AeroNotix> Do AsyncTasks need to use runOnUiThrea/d
Feb 23 16:05:11 <AeroNotix> runOnUiThread?
Feb 23 16:06:21 <StingRay_> well the doInbackgound is the method of the ui thread
Feb 23 16:06:30 <StingRay_> the others are I think all on
Feb 23 16:06:42 <StingRay_> off*
Feb 23 16:08:21 <AeroNotix> ok
Feb 23 16:14:07 <capella> no onPreExecute() or whatever is off
Feb 23 16:15:17 <capella> er, on same as doInBackground()
Feb 23 16:19:44 <AeroNotix> Wouldn't doInBackground() be in it's own thread?
Feb 23 16:20:01 <AeroNotix> iirc from the docs onPreExecute is ran in the main thread
Feb 23 16:20:46 <capella> pretty sure its off UI thread ... checking
Feb 23 16:21:26 <AeroNotix> if it was in the main thread that'd be weird since the idea is to not block the main thread with doing long tasks....
Feb 23 16:21:48 <AeroNotix> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/AsyncTask.html
Feb 23 16:21:50 <capella> right
Feb 23 16:21:50 <AeroNotix> clearly
Feb 23 16:22:03 <AeroNotix> clearly the docs back what I am saying up
Feb 23 16:23:10 <capella> well I think Im agreeing ... but maybe in a confusing way doPre and doInback are off main / UI Thread
Feb 23 16:23:53 <all_vs_one> what is difference between thread, ui thread and main thread?
Feb 23 16:24:14 <AeroNotix> thread is a separate thread altogether, and I think the ui thread and the main thread are the same
Feb 23 16:24:21 <AeroNotix> but I've only been using android for a couple of hours
Feb 23 16:24:25 <capella> yes
Feb 23 16:24:29 <AeroNotix> in other ui toolkits that's how it works
Feb 23 16:28:19 <all_vs_one> so async task doesn't span new thread?
Feb 23 16:29:09 <AeroNotix> all_vs_one: yes, it does.
Feb 23 16:29:17 <AeroNotix> all_vs_one: Read the docs
Feb 23 16:29:22 <AeroNotix> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/AsyncTask.html
Feb 23 16:29:25 <capella> The other asynchtask methods onProgressUpdate() and onPostExecute() are on main / off
Feb 23 16:29:42 <capella> *on main / UI*
Feb 23 16:29:43 <AeroNotix> the doInBackground is in a different thread, as you would expect.
Feb 23 16:30:01 <AeroNotix> stop using off and on to talk about threads, it's confusing when you mix them up
Feb 23 16:30:03 <AeroNotix> use in
Feb 23 16:30:16 <AeroNotix> in X thread, in UI thread, in another thread
Feb 23 16:37:34 <Danawar> Hey android dev what would be the best way of letting a user click a file he or she wanted to backup up in an intuitive way?
Feb 23 16:38:08 <speakingcode> Danawar: that's awfully vague. are you asking us to design your app for you?
Feb 23 16:38:51 <Danawar> speakingcode: i was thinking that when i was writting it im just pondering if there is some file manager i can send an intent to and get a file location for my app to deal with so my app can back it up to dropbox
Feb 23 16:39:03 <speakingcode> you could have smoe sort of typical file explorer and allow the user to check/select the ones they want to back up. you could do a drag and drop interface. etc
Feb 23 16:39:11 <speakingcode> ah, yeah, that might be possible
Feb 23 16:39:29 <Danawar> That is what i am after but im not sure how i will do all this barly finished the android tutorials xD
Feb 23 16:39:37 <speakingcode> if there isn't a standard file selection activity you can intent to, there should be
Feb 23 16:40:07 <speakingcode> question. why not just use the dropbox app?
Feb 23 16:40:29 <Danawar> speakigncode: this is a university project
Feb 23 16:41:00 <Danawar> speakingcode: they told me to creat an app the stored a file on dropbox so.. xD
Feb 23 16:41:08 <speakingcode> ah ok
Feb 23 16:41:28 <speakingcode> i'll tell you what i'd do then
Feb 23 16:41:43 <speakingcode> i'd make use a listview and an array adapter
Feb 23 16:42:32 <Danawar> i already have some code that maps the phones storage in an listview
Feb 23 16:42:45 <Danawar> and when the items are clicked it will just tell you the name of them but i could extend
Feb 23 16:43:15 <Danawar> was looking for something more user-friendly
Feb 23 16:44:42 <robertj> so is there any sane way to go into a monitoring mode and passively monitor for voice commands?
Feb 23 16:45:03 <speakingcode> i'd i'd say make it work first, generalize your components (classes/methods) then rework the UI and take advantage of any components you can reuse
Feb 23 16:45:40 <Danawar> Ok, thanks for your help speaking code!
Feb 23 16:46:01 <speakingcode> make a class/classes for dealing with the dropbox api. then instead of making the the clicked items display the name, pass the filename along to some file reader, then pass that to the dropbox api class you write
Feb 23 16:47:02 <speakingcode> it may be possible to take advantage of some intents for file selection or for dropbox, but since its a uni assignment they probably want you to write your own code to do it :-)
Feb 23 16:49:31 <Dattz> Hello, From a service, I need to call an AsynTask which is in an activity and uses findViewById(..).. I get the NullPointerException error on findViewById(..) .....
Feb 23 16:49:57 <Dattz> I know it isn't possible that way, I don't know the exact reason though?
Feb 23 16:50:57 <speakingcode> findViewById should work if the view id is one you have, afaik
Feb 23 16:51:19 <speakingcode> can't recall but i don't think it has to be a displayed view
Feb 23 16:51:20 <StingRay_> depends where your calling findViewById
Feb 23 16:51:22 <Dattz> the task works fine if i call it from within the activity
Feb 23 16:51:35 <StingRay_> inside the aync ?
Feb 23 16:51:36 <speakingcode> StingRay_: does findviewbyid not justl ook in R.java for it?
Feb 23 16:51:42 <StingRay_> no
Feb 23 16:51:48 <StingRay_> it search current View Tree
Feb 23 16:51:53 <speakingcode> oh ok
Feb 23 16:51:54 <StingRay_> set by  setContent
Feb 23 16:52:17 <speakingcode> (been a minute. haven't done any android dev in like 4 months until yesterday)
Feb 23 16:52:22 <clever> speakingcode: i believe the compiler convers the R.id stuff to hard-coded numbers at compile time
Feb 23 16:53:32 <speakingcode> yeah i was just thinking about wrong. R.id is where you get the reference, and then it searches the view tree for that as StingRay_ said
Feb 23 17:00:15 <apple741> What do you guys find to be more effective in terms of profit, separate tablet/phone versions or a single universal build for your apps?
Feb 23 17:00:42 <apple741> I'd imagine a single universal build as it is an incentive and people are unlikely to buy the same app twice?
Feb 23 17:01:46 <Dattz> Okay, here's what I have to do. I have a GCMBaseIntentService running which, onMessage check if activity XYZ is running or not. If it's not running, the service simply displays a notification. But If the activity is running, the service needs to send information to the activity to call an AsyncTask. The AsyncTask updates information on a textview in the activity.
Feb 23 17:04:33 <Dattz> any help?
Feb 23 17:07:07 <tona> hello guys
Feb 23 17:07:32 <tona> how can i debug my application step by step
Feb 23 17:08:06 <StingRay_> tona: using debug ?
Feb 23 17:08:16 <StingRay_> in respective ide
Feb 23 17:10:35 <tona> what do you mean in respective ide
Feb 23 17:12:20 <Dattz> Like in Eclipse or whatever you are using
Feb 23 17:43:54 <Bear10> Why can't i add to an ArrayList<? extends MyClass> ?
Feb 23 17:45:23 <xorgate> why not just ArrayList<MyClass>
Feb 23 17:46:30 <Bear10> xorgate, yeah i just did that right now lol
Feb 23 17:46:49 <Bear10> i'm curious to know if it relaly makes a difference
Feb 23 17:47:46 <SimonVT> I think you need to read up on generics
Feb 23 17:47:59 <Bear10> SimonVT, that i do
Feb 23 17:52:52 <Th0th> does anyone keep graphic source files in their project directory (like a psd file)?  and if so where do you place them to keep them from bloating the binary?
Feb 23 17:57:20 <Th0th> I had mistakenly left an xcf file from gimp in res/drawable, and got a 'Resource entry squirrel is already defined.' so I was wondering if there was a proper space to tuck away such files
Feb 23 17:57:49 <SimonVT> I put mine in art/
Feb 23 17:58:52 <Th0th> works for me, I was thinking of making just such a directory, thanks for the sanity check @SimonVT
Feb 23 18:01:29 <martincz> Hi. Please help me with ListView selector. Items of my listview are LinearLayouts with background xml drawable. How do I change the backgound when the item is tapped? Many thanks
Feb 23 18:23:44 <apple741> Hi, was just wondering what do you guys find to be more effective in terms of profit, separate tablet/phone versions or a single universal build for your apps?
Feb 23 18:24:38 <apple741> I'd imagine a single universal build as it is an incentive and people are unlikely to buy the same app twice?
Feb 23 18:24:43 <SimonVT> Don't be an asshole, make a single app
Feb 23 18:26:21 <apple741> Thats what I was thinking but I've noticed a lot of big companies do them separately .
Feb 23 18:28:01 <g00s> i think it makes sense if the usage scenario is very different between the apps
Feb 23 18:28:14 <g00s> for example, i remember reading about a stock trading app
Feb 23 18:28:30 <g00s> on the phone, people checked their stocks, but didn't buy/sell
Feb 23 18:28:39 <g00s> on the desktop, they did. different usages. maybe different apps
Feb 23 18:29:11 <g00s> people probably aren't going to do their retirement planning on a 4" phone ;)
Feb 23 18:29:46 <apple741> Good point g00s! Based on that rationale it would make mores sense for me to make my kids 2d puzzle app a single build :)
Feb 23 18:30:05 <apple741> It would just annoy people that they have to buy two different versions
Feb 23 18:30:12 <g00s> sure
Feb 23 18:30:26 <SimonVT> Even in that case, why would it have to be two seperate apps
Feb 23 18:31:00 <apple741> Don't Rovio have two separate builds for Bad Piggies, even though the game is the same on either device?
Feb 23 18:31:40 <SimonVT> Either way, you can have two seperate apk's under the same play store listing
Feb 23 18:32:09 <SimonVT> But that'll probably lead to issues
Feb 23 18:33:54 <apple741> Yeah I was just wondering why they choose that particular model
Feb 23 18:37:16 <sammysands> Howdy ladies and gents, anyone here have some experience with recording video using MediaRecorder?
Feb 23 18:40:15 <sammysands> I tried following all of the directions at http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/media/camera.html and keep experiencing media server died issues
Feb 23 18:45:24 * skwex hey
Feb 23 18:46:05 <Rob|boR> can someone help me figure out why my code isn't working
Feb 23 18:46:09 <Rob|boR> I can place it in pastepin
Feb 23 18:46:12 <Rob|boR> pastebin*
Feb 23 18:46:19 <Rob|boR> anyone?
Feb 23 18:46:24 <sammysands> Whatcha workin' on?
Feb 23 18:46:36 <Rob|boR> I got a program with tabs
Feb 23 18:46:49 <Rob|boR> and setting up fragments, but when I click on a tab, it crashes
Feb 23 18:46:57 <Rob|boR> I'm trying to follow an example posted online
Feb 23 18:47:13 <sammysands> ok
Feb 23 18:47:19 <Rob|boR> you would help me?
Feb 23 18:47:21 <Rob|boR> :)
Feb 23 18:47:57 <sammysands> sure, can you give some details?
Feb 23 18:49:05 <Rob|boR> ok so this is the code http://pastebin.com/gRbkuehD
Feb 23 18:49:10 <Rob|boR> I'm getting the following from logcat
Feb 23 18:49:56 <Rob|boR> FATAL EXCEPTION: main
Feb 23 18:50:04 <Rob|boR> java.lang.NullPointerException
Feb 23 18:50:31 <Rob|boR> at com.example.fixedtabswipe.MainActivitiy$SEctionsPagerAdapter.get Item (MainActivity.java:139)
Feb 23 18:51:51 <Rob|boR> I'm trying to learn how to use tab+swipe and have different layouts for each tab. So I was using this link as reference: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11708937/how-can-i-create-a-ui-for-each-tab-of-a-tabbed-activity
Feb 23 18:52:16 <SimonVT> case 0, case 1, case 3.. What's missing
Feb 23 18:52:33 <Rob|boR> 2 -_- lol
Feb 23 18:52:38 <Rob|boR> let me run it again
Feb 23 18:53:21 <Rob|boR> yay doesn't crash :D
Feb 23 18:53:23 <Rob|boR> thank you
Feb 23 18:53:32 <alexfu> Has anyone had troubles getting setTheme() to actually work in Froyo?
Feb 23 18:53:46 <sammysands> hehe
Feb 23 18:55:45 <Rob|boR> I swear spent over an hour trying to figure it out
Feb 23 18:55:56 <Rob|boR> can't bleieve I didn't notice that
Feb 23 19:00:31 <Sepho> Hi guys
Feb 23 19:03:29 <Sepho> I'm trying to retrieve my phone contacts name and numbers phone. I was trying with this code but it crash ( http://pastebin.com/KFWvPqRE ) any idea??
Feb 23 19:06:09 <alexfu> Is there a recommend way of changing a theme during run-time?
Feb 23 19:06:37 <alexfu> I'm setting my theme before setContentView, but it doesnt seem to be working on a pre-ICS emulator..
Feb 23 19:07:31 <SimonVT> On older platforms you have to set the theme before super.onCreate
Feb 23 19:11:13 <alexfu> damn... alright.
Feb 23 19:11:51 <Rob|boR> SimonVT, hopefully you can spot why this is crashing :/
Feb 23 19:11:52 <Rob|boR> http://pastebin.com/azFKeWrb
Feb 23 19:12:59 <Rob|boR> logcat says, FATAL EXCEPTION main, java.lang.IlledgalStateException: ArrayAdapter requires the resourceID to be a TextView
Feb 23 19:14:42 <SimonVT> https://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/ArrayAdapter.html#ArrayAdapter(android.content.Context,%20int,%20int,%20T[])
Feb 23 19:14:47 <SimonVT> resource	The resource ID for a layout file containing a layout to use when instantiating views.
Feb 23 19:14:47 <SimonVT> textViewResourceId	The id of the TextView within the layout resource to be populated
Feb 23 19:15:07 <SimonVT> So the first one is the layout the adapter inflates for each row
Feb 23 19:15:14 <SimonVT> The second is the id of the textview within that view
Feb 23 19:15:55 <Rob|boR> hmm
Feb 23 19:16:15 <Rob|boR> so for this line, 		    adapter = new ArrayAdapter <String> (context, R.layout.fragment_main_dummy, R.id.listView1, elements);
Feb 23 19:16:15 <Rob|boR>  ?
Feb 23 19:16:42 <SimonVT> That'd be the line, yes
Feb 23 19:17:36 <Rob|boR> the thing is that layout doesn't have textview
Feb 23 19:18:06 <SimonVT> Surely if you want your adapter to display a string, it has to have a textview
Feb 23 19:18:40 <Rob|boR> nvm, you are right
Feb 23 19:18:43 <Rob|boR> it does have textview
Feb 23 19:22:26 <Rob|boR> you are the best simonVT
Feb 23 19:22:48 <Rob|boR> I corrected the resource, works :)
Feb 23 19:22:57 <Rob|boR> thank you sooooooooooooooooooo much
Feb 23 19:29:51 <tibbi> anyone knows the answer to http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13714767/add-inputmethodservice-subclass-to-manifest ?
Feb 23 19:29:54 <tibbi> im having the same problem
Feb 23 19:30:13 <tibbi> my custom InputMethodService is not recognised or wth
Feb 23 19:34:33 <sammysands> Can anyone help me solve my MediaRecorder issues - full documentation available at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15044438/android-mediarecorder-not-working-media-server-died-error-100
Feb 23 19:35:10 <sammysands> The dreaded "Error 100" message has me banging my head against the wall!
Feb 23 19:53:16 <nug700> I cannot find the "OEM USB driver" mentioned on http://developer.android.com/tools/extras/oem-usb.html. There is no folder named "google" in the "extras" folder.
Feb 23 19:53:33 <nug700> only a folder named "android"
Feb 23 19:57:07 <nug700> when I search from the android_winusb.inf file (because the actual name of the driver isn't give), nothing shows up in the search results.
Feb 23 19:57:13 <nug700> search for*
Feb 23 19:58:11 <Sicp> isn't this the path to a file that exists under my project > res > raw? file:///android_asset/disclaimer.html
Feb 23 19:59:23 <kbs> question about android.hardware.Camera -- do the various methods (specifically, setOneShotPreviewCallback()) need to be invoked from the main thread, or can it be invoked from any other thread?
Feb 23 20:01:07 <kbs> ah, I see the place in the docs where it says what the expectations are...
Feb 23 20:13:14 <nug700> what does this actually mean? http://pastebin.com/ZHkt0vgC. I've already given the app INTERNET permission
Feb 23 20:13:46 <timroes> nug700: what it says "NetworkOnMainThreadException"
Feb 23 20:13:51 <timroes> you are doing some network traffic in your main thread
Feb 23 20:14:53 <nug700> I tried doing it in a different thread. Got other problems with that, because I am not allowed to access the view objects from other threads
Feb 23 20:15:19 <timroes> http://www.vogella.com/articles/AndroidBackgroundProcessing/article.html
Feb 23 20:15:34 <timroes> you can call runnables in the ui thread from your backgruond thread
Feb 23 20:15:44 <timroes> or capsulate it in asynctask or use handlers
Feb 23 20:15:46 <nug700> and there seems to be no way to run a specific function in the main thread after the thread is finished
Feb 23 20:16:01 <timroes> read the above tutorial it explains the three methods
Feb 23 20:16:29 <nug700> ok, thanks
Feb 23 20:17:40 <nug700> guess i can use it as reading material on my way to Phoenix.
Feb 23 20:18:30 <Sepho> I'm trying to retrieve my phone contacts name and numbers phone. I was trying with this code but it crash ( http://pastebin.com/KFWvPqRE ) any idea??
Feb 23 20:20:02 <john_doe_jr> anyone here?
Feb 23 20:21:17 <kbs> (that asynctask example at vogella.com doesn't quite handle configurationchanges... hm.)
Feb 23 20:24:47 <kbs> all the shenanigans behind making asynctask "work" in the presence of device rotations makes me wonder a bit about it, to be honest :)
Feb 23 20:25:25 <xorgate> kbs http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3357477/is-asynctask-really-conceptually-flawed-or-am-i-just-missing-something/3359003#3359003
Feb 23 20:25:40 <g00s> yeah, thats a good link. read hackbod's response
Feb 23 20:26:06 <capella> Your main activity can hold a reference to the asynchtask and re-attach to it after being re-created / started by a screen orientation change
Feb 23 20:26:20 <g00s> hey capella
Feb 23 20:26:26 <capella> hey!
Feb 23 20:26:48 <kbs> it's not about how to make it work :-), which I do understand
Feb 23 20:27:07 <g00s> shenanigans :)
Feb 23 20:27:15 <capella> i call shenanigans!
Feb 23 20:27:52 <kbs> :-) i think it has the noble attempt at simplifying async thread processing, but it's sufficiently involved that I wonder how much it's actually simplyfing usage.
Feb 23 20:28:11 <canadiancow> i dont want to argue with hackbod, but an activity can be killed without ondestroy being called
Feb 23 20:28:22 <canadiancow> also: use loaders
Feb 23 20:29:21 <capella> Hmmm ... never checked but I though Androids activity manager kills them without hitting onDestroy()
Feb 23 20:29:33 <g00s> hey canadiancow
Feb 23 20:30:04 * capella scrolls back ... maybe I missed something
Feb 23 20:30:38 <DR01D-Engineer> i setup a google account and paid the developer fee... but then wanted to change my name so made a new account and paid another fee..... but then i realized it says you can change the email address for your developer account -does this mean if i change it to a new gmail it will set the account to the new one completley -as if i had used the new one to register, or it is just a contact address? and id still ne
Feb 23 20:30:38 <DR01D-Engineer> ed to keep the original email i registerd with...... and also if i did terminate an old account would google refund the developer fee?
Feb 23 20:30:39 <g00s> if ondestroy isnt killed, the process is killed :|
Feb 23 20:30:54 <g00s> err, if onDestroy isn't called, the process is killed
Feb 23 20:31:19 <canadiancow> oh is that how that works
Feb 23 20:31:21 <canadiancow> makes sense
Feb 23 20:31:29 <canadiancow> as i was typing it, i thought "wait... i'm misisng something"
Feb 23 20:31:31 <g00s> DR01D-Engineer: did you pay mikedg the platinum fee ?
Feb 23 20:31:31 <canadiancow> :P
Feb 23 20:31:43 <DR01D-Engineer> i dont know who mikedg is
Feb 23 20:31:51 <g00s> he handles all the fees
Feb 23 20:31:54 <DR01D-Engineer> i paid the $25 fee on 2 seperate accounts
Feb 23 20:32:03 <DR01D-Engineer> with my visa. through the account interface
Feb 23 20:32:10 <capella> I'll need the usual tree-fiddy$
Feb 23 20:33:05 <cooldman224> What is the difference between NavUtils.navigateUpTo and calling this.super.OnBackPressed?
Feb 23 20:33:27 <g00s> cooldman224: read the design guidelines for navigation?
Feb 23 20:33:55 <canadiancow> i made $0.42 on adsense yesterday :(
Feb 23 20:34:03 <DR01D-Engineer> how do i contact google about my accounts?
Feb 23 20:34:06 <g00s> shouldn't that be \o/
Feb 23 20:35:07 <cooldman224> g00s: NavUtils.navigateUpTo - "This activity is part of the application's task, so simply navigate up to the hierarchical parent activity." on back pressed does that too
Feb 23 20:36:08 <timroes> cooldman224: no back press brings you to the previous activity
Feb 23 20:36:23 <DR01D-Engineer> oh i found the contact thingy for people with dev accounts
Feb 23 20:36:33 <DR01D-Engineer> do they usually respond fast to this?
Feb 23 20:36:41 <cooldman224> timroes: you right but shouldnt ur nav be setup so back always goes to previous activity?
Feb 23 20:37:04 <timroes> yeah it does by default
Feb 23 20:37:13 <timroes> back pressed brings you back without you need to do anything
Feb 23 20:37:32 <timroes> and up should always bring you up, (what android can't know by itself what UP means in your activity)
Feb 23 20:37:47 <timroes> http://developer.android.com/design/patterns/navigation.html read this please
Feb 23 20:44:12 <cooldman224> timroes: thanks, yeah backpressed suffices for my app navigation but i understand the differences now
Feb 23 20:46:30 <capella> \o/ woohoo ... JellyBean keyboard got a key height parm for my fat fingers
Feb 23 20:47:59 <canadiancow> [12:34:07] <g00s> shouldn't that be \o/
Feb 23 20:47:59 <canadiancow> no
Feb 23 20:48:04 <canadiancow> i average ~$5
Feb 23 20:48:16 <g00s> wow, thats pretty good
Feb 23 20:48:35 <g00s> canadiancow: is this on the coverage app ?
Feb 23 20:48:44 <canadiancow> well the ads are on the website
Feb 23 20:48:51 <canadiancow> and my server costs ~$200
Feb 23 20:48:59 <canadiancow> so we have differing opinions on what "good" is
Feb 23 20:49:00 <canadiancow> :P
Feb 23 20:49:08 <g00s> i see
Feb 23 20:50:40 <Sepho> I'm trying to retrieve my phone contacts name and numbers phone. I was trying with this code but it crash ( http://pastebin.com/KFWvPqRE ) any idea??
Feb 23 20:50:42 <canadiancow> anywho i need to go grab some lunch
Feb 23 20:51:00 <canadiancow> Sepho http://imgur.com/jacoj
Feb 23 20:51:04 * g00s fires up some oatmeal
Feb 23 20:51:53 <capella> heh
Feb 23 20:52:26 <g00s> damn it, i keep having this problem where 'adb devices' doesn't even show the damn emu
Feb 23 20:52:33 * capella if I can't see a screen print, it never really happened
Feb 23 20:53:02 <g00s> hehe
Feb 23 20:53:25 <capella> but stacktrace or gtfo is good advice too :D
Feb 23 20:54:20 * capella refuses to work in a CMM level 0 environment
Feb 23 20:54:39 <clever> g00s: that happens to me on ocasion, but adb kill-server fixes it
Feb 23 20:55:40 <g00s> capella: there is no CMM 0 XD
Feb 23 20:55:56 <capella> exactly! :)
Feb 23 20:55:58 <g00s> CMM 1 is ad hoc; i guess CMM 0 would be pandemonium
Feb 23 20:56:06 <capella> XD yep
Feb 23 20:56:36 <g00s> clever: yeah, have to do that too
Feb 23 20:59:14 <Luke-Jr> any way to build an Android toolchain without all the java nonsense?
Feb 23 20:59:20 <Luke-Jr> just GCC/libc
Feb 23 21:00:03 <g00s> i always find those questions strange
Feb 23 21:00:23 <Sicp> can I play with the opacity of an image through XML?
Feb 23 21:00:53 <Luke-Jr> g00s: I don't want to pollute my system, just configure --host=whatever-android and build
Feb 23 21:01:25 <Luke-Jr> http://pastebin.com/9g8gxR2Q <-- bleh
Feb 23 21:01:26 <g00s> Luke-Jr: so you want to use the NDK but not have the java stuff installed ?
Feb 23 21:01:48 <MDijkstra> and 'polluting your system' isn't really what's happening
Feb 23 21:01:55 <MDijkstra> as everything is contained in one directory
Feb 23 21:02:03 <Luke-Jr> g00s: I'm not clear on what "NDK" means; I just want a GCC and libc like any other cross compiler
Feb 23 21:02:23 <g00s> Luke-Jr: well, then you want Ubuntu phone or the NDK ;)
Feb 23 21:02:44 <Luke-Jr> also, the NDK looks to have a non-free license <.<
Feb 23 21:03:25 <oGMo> the ndk is gcc etc
Feb 23 21:03:40 <oGMo> it's no less free than any other part of android's sdk
Feb 23 21:03:41 <Luke-Jr> where "etc" has a bunch of GTK and Java dependencies :/
Feb 23 21:03:48 <oGMo> probably more since it uses all the gnu tools
Feb 23 21:06:35 * Luke-Jr ponders what happens if he forces NDK to ignore missing deps
Feb 23 21:07:00 <g00s> dont ponder, try it !
Feb 23 21:07:20 <MDijkstra> Luke-Jr: I don't know what it is you're trying to accomplish? build android packages? build command-line tools for your personal device?
Feb 23 21:07:48 <Luke-Jr> MDijkstra: port my server application
Feb 23 21:08:00 <MDijkstra> Luke-Jr: if it's the latter you can just build a cross-compiler using your favorite method
Feb 23 21:08:07 <Luke-Jr> apparently there is some issue with pthread_cancel, and another with stdint
Feb 23 21:08:13 <MDijkstra> and push the binaries to your device
Feb 23 21:08:26 <Luke-Jr> MDijkstra: my favourite method doesn't seem to support bionic
Feb 23 21:08:38 <MDijkstra> statically link against glibc ;)
Feb 23 21:08:45 <Luke-Jr> that isn't a proper port
Feb 23 21:08:52 <MDijkstra> I know, hence the ;)
Feb 23 21:09:20 <Luke-Jr> pretty sure the guy who wants to run it on Android plans to package it
Feb 23 21:09:31 <DR01D-Engineer> you know where you make a new account and ask them to transfer like apps stuff by telling them in an email.... does anyone actually respond? i want to talk to them
Feb 23 21:09:33 <MDijkstra> and a proper port would also include packaging it as an .apk
Feb 23 21:09:44 <MDijkstra> in which case you really can't escape java
Feb 23 21:10:13 <Luke-Jr> MDijkstra: I'll leave that to the packager; I just want to fix the incompatibility in my software :p
Feb 23 21:10:42 <Luke-Jr> although.. why does a mere package format require Java? :/
Feb 23 21:11:05 <MDijkstra> Luke-Jr: the package format doesn't, but there is glue required to launch a background task in android
Feb 23 21:11:19 <MDijkstra> you can't just daemonize like you normally would
Feb 23 21:11:21 <Luke-Jr> MDijkstra: ah, I don't expect it to be used that way
Feb 23 21:11:33 <Luke-Jr> MDijkstra: the other guy wrote a frontend GUI for it
Feb 23 21:11:50 <Luke-Jr> so I presume he launches it with his GUI, and terminates it when the app closes
Feb 23 21:12:06 <MDijkstra> right, ok
Feb 23 21:12:11 <MDijkstra> which app is this, by the way?
Feb 23 21:12:22 <MDijkstra> or server
Feb 23 21:12:24 <Luke-Jr> BFGMiner, a Bitcoin miner
Feb 23 21:13:08 <Luke-Jr> other guy = someone at Butterfly Labs, shipping ASIC mining devices with some Android phone (Nexus7?) as the controller
Feb 23 21:13:11 <Styler2go> :D :D
Feb 23 21:13:16 <Styler2go> i cant access my server :D
Feb 23 21:13:42 <Styler2go> via ssh...
Feb 23 21:15:37 <Luke-Jr> O.o someone makes MIPS Android devices?
Feb 23 21:16:04 <MDijkstra> never heard of a MIPS android vendor, but probably
Feb 23 21:17:32 <Luke-Jr> so this NDK package just throws a bunch of stuff in /opt :/
Feb 23 21:38:05 <Improv> Hey all, which version of Java is used on Android? (want to know if I can use a Java 7 language feature)
Feb 23 21:38:22 <timroes> Improv: you can build with java 5 or 6, no 7 yet
Feb 23 21:38:37 <ivan> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7153989/java-7-language-features-with-android
Feb 23 21:38:39 <Improv> timroes: Ahh, thanks. Kinda inconvenient, but such is life.
Feb 23 21:38:42 <timroes> (hopefully 8 with closures will be implemented soon)
Feb 23 21:39:14 <Improv> I was hoping to use strings in switches :)
Feb 23 21:40:08 <timroes> ivan: woah that solution sounds like you can created yourself a lots of problems with it :D
Feb 23 21:41:32 <Styler2go> timroes: did u tried ubuntu on phone?
Feb 23 21:41:43 <timroes> nope
Feb 23 21:41:53 <g00s> timroes: i'm not optimistic java 8 is coming to android ;)
Feb 23 21:42:27 <Styler2go> is someone very talented at linux? :D
Feb 23 21:42:28 <g00s> well - not from google anyhow. Oracle does have Java SE Compact + JavaFX for Android coming soon
Feb 23 21:43:18 <Improv> I wonder if Google will try to migrate us all to Go or something.
Feb 23 21:43:44 <timroes> g00s: but wouldn't java8 require new dalvik features (don't know exactly how closures and lambda functions are implemented in the vm, but would guess you need some new bytecode)
Feb 23 21:44:11 <g00s> timroes: oh, oracle has a whole jvm for android
Feb 23 21:44:49 <timroes> you can use it via as native code inside your app, or just for own android platforms?
Feb 23 21:45:00 <g00s> not sure yet. supposed to be out soon
Feb 23 21:45:48 <Improv> I wonder if some weirdo out there has hacked up a way to write Java apps for Androud using swing... either on the Dalek VM or on some more standard JVM.
Feb 23 21:46:20 <timroes> hopefully not, otherwise I would see a whole new possibility to create shitty apps
Feb 23 21:48:26 <g00s> Improv: romainguy worked on swing for a long time. the android ui toolkit is undoubtedly inspired by what he learned from that
Feb 23 21:48:41 <d3xter> hey guys
Feb 23 21:48:45 <g00s> think of android.widget as spring for touch UIs ;)
Feb 23 21:48:50 <g00s> *swing
Feb 23 21:49:26 <g00s> but anyhow, Oracle has "deprecated" Swing in favor of JavaFX. That is, as i mentioned above, coming to android
Feb 23 21:49:31 <Luke-Jr> hmm, what binutils/gcc is used for Android 4.1 (specificually Nexus 7)?
Feb 23 21:50:51 <Improv> Luke-Jr: You mean in building the OS?
Feb 23 21:51:12 <Luke-Jr> whatever is expected for applications :P
Feb 23 21:51:19 <d3xter> if i have physical access to a phone, is there any way to read files from /data/data?
Feb 23 21:51:23 <Improv> Luke-Jr: .... you write apps in Java, usually.
Feb 23 21:51:34 <Luke-Jr> Improv: mine is C
Feb 23 21:52:10 <Improv> Luke-Jr: Ahh. I have no idea then, although I understand that JNI is possible.
Feb 23 21:55:34 <d3xter> where does android save sqlite databases?
Feb 23 21:56:02 <Improv> Luke-Jr: https://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/ndk/index.html
Feb 23 21:56:35 <Improv> Luke-Jr: I think that should have all the information you need for your questions.
Feb 23 21:56:56 <Luke-Jr> Improv: already looked there, no mention of binutils
Feb 23 21:57:24 <Improv> Luke-Jr: Ahh. For that, you might just need to install it and find out.
Feb 23 22:06:48 <speakingcode> d3xter: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1105219/android-where-are-database-files-stored
Feb 23 22:09:39 <john_doe_jr> is there a way to simulate a usb connection on android?
Feb 23 22:09:50 <Styler2go> guys :D do you know if there is a channel for video editing, specially after effcts? :D
Feb 23 22:09:52 <john_doe_jr> w/ out actually having one
Feb 23 22:14:54 <tyoc213> with strings.xml is possible to put a color and bold for a textview?
Feb 23 22:16:26 <Improv> android:textAppearance is what you want, but it's not in strings.xml
Feb 23 22:17:17 <Improv> tyoc: That kinda thing goes in your layout.
Feb 23 22:22:56 <john_doe_jr> Alright, there seems to be 2 types of protocols that abd supports: USB and TCP/IP…how can I connect from my computer to an android image via USB
Feb 23 22:24:24 <funkbox> plug it in
Feb 23 22:27:35 <john_doe_jr> funkbox: with out a usb
Feb 23 23:55:56 <Styler2go> this new snapdragon battery saving app seems to work veeery good...
Feb 23 23:59:31 <funkbox> it saved your battery?
Feb 23 23:59:35 <funkbox> introduced it to jesus ?
Feb 24 00:04:04 <Styler2go> both!
Feb 24 00:31:40 <Kilian]> Hi iam using an arrayadapter with a listview, which requires a textview for an item, is there a way to add a button to this textview?
Feb 24 00:38:36 <funkbox> use a different view
Feb 24 00:38:37 <funkbox> define it
Feb 24 00:38:38 <funkbox> own
Feb 24 00:38:39 <funkbox> hsip it
Feb 24 00:39:24 <Kilian]> what do you mean with own hsip it ?
Feb 24 00:41:57 <spobat> hey
Feb 24 00:42:01 <spobat> how can data be null here?
Feb 24 00:42:01 <spobat> http://ideone.com/J5RN7t
Feb 24 00:42:50 <Kilian]> which loc?
Feb 24 00:43:05 <spobat> Kilian], what?
Feb 24 00:43:17 <spobat> I commented it
Feb 24 00:43:24 <spobat> 15
Feb 24 00:43:33 <Kilian]> ah, okay didnt saw that
Feb 24 00:45:17 <Kilian]> loc 3 data is only defined in the namespace of this method ...
Feb 24 00:45:59 <spobat> Kilian], onActivityResult has a parameter
Feb 24 00:46:11 <spobat> other than that, these 2 methods are in different activities
Feb 24 00:47:37 <Kilian]> i would simply:  Bundle extras = getIntent().getExtras();        if (extras != null) {     string selectedPath = extras.getString("currentPath"); }
Feb 24 00:47:46 <Kilian]> in the receiver activity
Feb 24 00:49:19 <Kilian]> and sending intents via 	intent intent = new Intent(this, MainActivity.class);	intent.putExtra(name, value); startActivity(intent);
Feb 24 00:51:59 <HUELK> Hi, is the language of this channel german or english
Feb 24 00:53:42 <dark3n> english
Feb 24 00:56:06 <HUELK> ok anyone can help me with the following: im building for the mtk6577 platform and can already boot a kernel but initializing the graphics h/w i get "PVRSRVBridgeCall: Failed to access device.  Function ID:3223086860 (Bad address)."
Feb 24 00:56:43 <g00s> HUELK: see topic ;)
Feb 24 00:57:04 <HUELK> :/ didnt see
Feb 24 00:57:08 <HUELK> sorry
Feb 24 00:57:13 <crypticmofo> manybe i can ask in here
Feb 24 00:57:27 <bencc1> what should be the alias when generating a key?
Feb 24 00:57:31 <bencc1> should it be the company name or the app name?
Feb 24 00:58:26 <dark3n> doesnt really matter
Feb 24 00:58:27 <crypticmofo> guys i don't know if im speaking jibberish or not but i have a d2vzw galaxy s3 and i want to disable my hardware keys
Feb 24 00:58:31 <crypticmofo> is this a dev thing or an app thing
Feb 24 00:58:37 <dark3n> make it bencc1 or so
Feb 24 00:59:04 <dark3n> crypticmofo, would assume that is a kernel/rom thing
Feb 24 00:59:09 <crypticmofo> ugh
Feb 24 00:59:10 <bencc1> dark3n: so why is it there?
Feb 24 00:59:18 <tnzr> is anyone familiar with the Matrix class?  I'm getting a "left == right" IllegalArgumentException and I don't think I should be
Feb 24 00:59:30 <bencc1> dark3n: what is a keystore?
Feb 24 00:59:48 <dark3n> bencc1, a place where you can store different signing keys.. duh :P
Feb 24 01:01:11 <dark3n> bencc1, http://developer.android.com/tools/publishing/app-signing.html
Feb 24 01:01:15 <bencc1> dark3n: ok so if I have several signing keys, each will be identified by a different alias?
Feb 24 01:02:11 <dark3n> yes something to identify the key with
Feb 24 01:04:11 <bencc1> thanks
Feb 24 01:30:06 <tyoc213> Hi there, I have java.lan.NoiSUchMethodException com.side.PSlideActivity.getFragmentManager  but it derive from FragmentActivity and I have libs/android-support-v13.jar
Feb 24 01:33:10 <Improv> Hey all, apologies if this is newbish, but I think I'm not getting a concept ; if I have an arbitrary class, how do I get getResources() into its scope?
Feb 24 01:33:29 <Improv> This is from a chunk of code I'm intending to be called from a bound service
Feb 24 01:37:12 <Improv> I think it's a method of Context, but I'm having trouble initialising a Context variable.
Feb 24 02:39:06 <ESphynx> hey guys, do we have lfind on Android?
Feb 24 02:43:49 <tyoc213> Hi there, I have ADT Build: v21.0.1-543035  and just updated to android sdk tolls 21.1 but now my project has >1500 errors and when I start adt it says that I need ADT > 21.0.1....
Feb 24 02:44:51 <tyoc213> >= 21.0.1... so I think I have it... anyway checking for updated like sugguested didn't find any update
Feb 24 02:47:35 <tyoc213> The exact error is like this: This Android SDK requires Android DeveloperToolkit version 21.1.0 or above. Current version is 21.0.1.2012-12-6-2-58. Please update ADT to the latest version.
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