**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 01 02:59:58 2013 Mar 01 04:04:53 anyone know a way to hide the box on a checkbox? Mar 01 04:05:54 don't use a checkbox? Mar 01 04:06:02 how would you know it's there? Mar 01 04:07:00 yeh i really just want to show a tick Mar 01 04:07:21 but ... then when it's off you see .... nothing? Mar 01 04:07:35 yeh its not interactive, when its off it wont even appear Mar 01 04:07:52 guess ill just draw a tick instead Mar 01 04:08:22 and manipulate the visibility Mar 01 04:09:10 yeh Mar 01 04:10:40 I wonder if I'm the first person to connect here from Puppy Linux. Mar 01 04:12:55 i wonder if anyone cares Mar 01 04:13:10 i wonder if anyone wonders if i wonder Mar 01 04:13:28 Precise Puppy Linux to be.... Well..... Precise. Mar 01 04:13:32 i just wonder Mar 01 04:13:55 had a dream last night i found a linux i liked :) Mar 01 04:14:30 Was it Android? Mar 01 04:14:36 nope Mar 01 04:14:48 it was like a good version of ubuntu if i recall :) Mar 01 04:15:08 Oh, 8.04 Mar 01 04:40:50 How's it going guys? Mar 01 04:41:21 not close enough to beer o'clock for my liking Mar 01 04:41:38 Haha, I feel you. Mar 01 04:41:55 do you? pervert .... Mar 01 04:42:28 :P Mar 01 04:42:45 How can I optimize this application I'm developing? Mar 01 04:42:51 So I'm working with multiple APIS Mar 01 04:42:51 write the code better Mar 01 04:43:19 Query 1 API, use results from that API to query Youtube API, then use results from that API to parse HTML from a page Mar 01 04:43:52 So counting, I'm executing 3 asynchronous tasks at once . . . all using HTTP clients of their own . . . Mar 01 04:56:58 ah, i start my first app with minSdk=ICS Mar 01 04:57:04 \o/ Mar 01 04:58:13 gingerbread man is sad Mar 01 04:58:54 fuck HC too :) Mar 01 04:59:04 who cares about HC? :) Mar 01 05:02:28 JesusFreke: i guess antlr v4 is out Mar 01 05:03:19 yeah, I haven't really looked at it Mar 01 05:03:27 dunno if I'll switch Mar 01 05:03:54 I probably won't, unless there's a good reason to Mar 01 05:04:39 g00s, min ICS???? Mar 01 05:04:45 your TARGET was froyo yesterday Mar 01 05:05:42 canadiancow: a new app, doing some stuff with mqtt Mar 01 05:06:17 emu should be fine Mar 01 05:06:26 are you using 14 or 15? Mar 01 05:06:30 as your min Mar 01 05:07:37 oh man, i didn't know there was a split between 4.0.x branches for 14/15 Mar 01 05:08:13 i guess 14? Mar 01 05:08:39 I don't think you have to worry about 14 Mar 01 05:08:57 i have an app with min of 14 and i only have 0.04% of users there. Mar 01 05:09:48 was it one of those stories like android 2.0 which everybody got migrated to 2.1 basically (and there was only one 2.0 phone) Mar 01 05:09:56 yea, I think so Mar 01 05:10:04 Hi again Mar 01 05:11:44 nice. it's pretty much evenly split between GB and ICS, for my penroser app Mar 01 05:12:14 they don't even have a category for api 14 in the stats on the play store developer console thingy Mar 01 05:12:55 i have a lot of catching up to do. i've been living in a land of froyo + compat lib Mar 01 05:13:14 or maybe that's only because I don't have any users in that category Mar 01 05:13:50 yeah i have 14 in the stats on the play store. i actually also see 15 devices on Android 2.3.3-2.3.7 even though this app never supported such (i imagine it's hacked play stores) and 1 under "Other" Mar 01 05:14:02 hah Mar 01 05:14:26 mine isn't popular enough to get the crazy stuff like that :p Mar 01 05:14:37 I only have ~1000 active installs or so Mar 01 05:14:37 kevinb: well, the good news is that your users are pretty committed :D Mar 01 05:15:32 true. too bad all their commitment won't help the app run on 2.3 though Mar 01 05:18:30 so, if i have an app on the store with targetSdk=8; and i decide i want to do a huge UI overhaul. probably a new apk for ICS+ folks. can i leave both apks on Play; the old one for foroy/gb and the second one for ICS+ ? Mar 01 05:18:43 hmm. I *think* so Mar 01 05:18:52 I think there's that alternate apk thingy Mar 01 05:19:04 where you can use different apks for different device characteristics Mar 01 05:20:06 yeah Mar 01 05:20:12 JesusFreke: ok; wonder if i need to change the old manifest to maxSdk=10 or something Mar 01 05:20:21 hey ron_frown Mar 01 05:20:28 oi Mar 01 05:20:36 g00s got a bunch of hardware on order =) Mar 01 05:20:38 haha Mar 01 05:20:45 I don't think so - I think you set the characteristics via the publisher site Mar 01 05:26:18 ron_frown: any lasers this time ? :D Mar 01 05:26:32 no no Mar 01 05:26:53 I got crapload of sensors and arduino stuff for now Mar 01 05:26:59 I can make due with that for now Mar 01 05:27:11 lasers are for later , huh Mar 01 05:30:17 g00s, i think im using 14 as a min Mar 01 05:30:35 but it wasnt really my decision and i dont care enough to think about it :P Mar 01 05:30:59 Q: I doubt this works, but is it possible to intercept a link click in a textview? Assuming that the textview's linksClickable="true" and it has some links in it Mar 01 05:35:49 ok so everyone I am linkedin tarded Mar 01 05:37:16 their UI keeps changing; they want to stuff media down everybody's throats now. Mar 01 05:37:30 I think the endorsements were good idea Mar 01 05:37:36 that way if someone says oh I know blah Mar 01 05:37:43 i disabled everything on my feeds, it was nuts Mar 01 05:37:47 and I know that to not be the case I can chose not to endorse Mar 01 05:37:56 I didnt realize I had absolutely 0 skills listed Mar 01 05:37:56 haha Mar 01 05:38:08 * g00s endorses your 0 skills Mar 01 05:39:37 gobs of it now Mar 01 06:00:55 romainguy_: quick q :| just installed LR for the first time today, and it asked me about a catalog. Do you have one, or did you split your somehow ? Mar 01 06:01:08 (into multiple) Mar 01 06:03:06 I have only one Mar 01 06:03:10 I'm thinking about splitting it Mar 01 06:03:16 One for family photos, one of the rest Mar 01 06:03:36 ah, ok. thought maybe i should have one per year maybe Mar 01 06:03:53 Bah there's no need to Mar 01 06:04:09 ok, phew. want things simple Mar 01 06:04:27 but also dont want to choose the wrong thing in the beginning and make trouble for myself ;) Mar 01 06:06:03 thx Mar 01 06:07:12 hm Mar 01 06:07:23 my problem from yesterday still exists :( Mar 01 06:07:33 http://pastebin.com/jd84byiU Mar 01 06:09:41 lines 48, 49, and 50 error with getOd() or getName(0 not existing for the GPSFlag type Mar 01 06:11:57 actually, I'll try bouncing the box Mar 01 06:16:56 g00s: you can't go wrong, it's easy to change things later on Mar 01 06:19:18 ok, thats good - cause i have no idea what i'm doing :P romainguy_ btw, have you seen any of Eliot Porter's stuff? I was taken back by not being able to recognize anything at all. no grand panoramas, identifiable spots. all intimate landscape Mar 01 06:21:18 everything is very subtle in tone; very little drama even. quite a contrast to what i often see today Mar 01 06:56:37 can anyone help with a problem im having with the repo program for managing android source? sorry if this is off topic Mar 01 07:09:21 what's your problem? Mar 01 07:09:52 romainguy_: if he's too slow I have a weird problem :) Mar 01 07:10:04 http://pastebin.com/sWFxj5QF Mar 01 07:10:24 hm, I'm having a really weird issue with some code, lines 48, 49, and 50 error complaining that there is no method getName() or getId() for the type GPSFlag Mar 01 07:10:46 hm, is it possible that the getView(int, View, ViewGroup) method is causing the problem? Mar 01 07:11:48 what's the compiler error exactly? Mar 01 07:12:26 The method getName() is undefined for the type GPSFlag Mar 01 07:12:31 or getId() Mar 01 07:12:43 No, please copy the exact output of the compiler Mar 01 07:13:07 (javac, not your IDE) Mar 01 07:13:10 oh um, how do I get the compiler output from eclipse? Mar 01 07:14:03 actually, look at this "Description Resource Path Location Type Mar 01 07:14:03 The type parameter GPSFlag is hiding the type GPSFlag GPSFlagAdapter.java /GPSFlag/src/com/shanehowearth/GPSFlag line 14 Java Problem Mar 01 07:14:09 shit, sorry Mar 01 07:14:39 the type parameter is hiding the type GPSFlag Mar 01 07:15:31 ok I see what's going on Mar 01 07:15:43 remove from your GPSFlagAdapter declaration Mar 01 07:15:51 leave it on ArrayAdapter though Mar 01 07:16:07 public class GPSFlagAdapter extends ArrayAdapter Mar 01 07:16:09 like this Mar 01 07:16:12 \o/ Mar 01 07:16:23 that's been a bugbear for a week!!!! Mar 01 07:16:28 thanks :) Mar 01 07:18:22 hi Mar 01 07:36:19 ok, so i 'm doing this: Mar 01 07:36:36 http://pastebin.com/3R76rMBJ Mar 01 07:36:51 how to add another button next to tv1 Button? Mar 01 07:37:12 in code Mar 01 07:37:14 not in xml Mar 01 07:39:13 * p_l ponders how much of the Android team's SWE are in Mountain View Mar 01 07:48:53 64% Mar 01 07:49:01 that is my uneducated guess. Mar 01 07:49:12 hokkaido: I was just going to say "suspiciously specific number" :> Mar 01 07:49:19 ;) Mar 01 07:49:25 happy to help Mar 01 08:03:19 can a fragment in a viewpager provide the title for viewpagerindicator? Mar 01 08:25:19 Good morning Mar 01 08:27:28 How would you guys create a dynamic Tab View? I need to delete Tabs and add Tabs which have Activities as content? Mar 01 08:30:35 hey guys, why is my directional light not behaving like a directional light? :| Mar 01 08:36:48 I think I drink too much Mar 01 08:37:15 I thought I lost 2 weeks worth of code, turns out I was looking at my GitHub repo rather than my BitBucket repo Mar 01 08:37:18 it's all there Mar 01 08:38:28 belgianguy: why not sync them up? :) Mar 01 08:38:41 you're from Belgium, what do you drink, beer? :) Mar 01 08:38:51 ESphynx, how'd I do that? Mar 01 08:39:04 ESphynx, beer, yes :) Mar 01 08:39:05 belgianguy: isn't there an import or export system ? Mar 01 08:39:14 between bitbucket and github Mar 01 08:39:23 ESphynx, ah, that I should investigate Mar 01 08:39:40 belgianguy bitbucket does git too right? Mar 01 08:39:53 ESphynx, yeah Mar 01 08:40:13 ESphynx, that'd be safer indeed Mar 01 08:40:22 If I pull another stunt like that :) Mar 01 08:40:47 why is the light only showing close around the viewer :S Mar 01 08:41:20 does float have a smaller range on Android? Mar 01 08:41:57 well the geometry displays fine :| Mar 01 08:45:16 ESphynx, in GL? Mar 01 08:46:29 belgianguy: Yeah , GL ES 1.1 on Android Mar 01 08:50:11 Can someone explain to me how I can deal with a asynctask that calls a networking function (which stays alive forever), and on an orientation change the progress dialog re-appears even though it's already been dismissed? Mar 01 08:51:38 thanks btw. Mar 01 08:51:48 ESphynx, ah, I've been looking into GLES2 lately, don't have much experience with 1.1 Mar 01 08:52:43 ah. :) Mar 01 08:52:49 doing fixed pipeline so... Mar 01 08:55:37 goatmaster: are you using fragments? Mar 01 08:56:19 hrnt: no Mar 01 08:56:38 too bad Mar 01 08:57:02 i assume what happens is that your activity is recreated when you rotate the screen and the original asynctask is lost (and another one is started) Mar 01 08:59:08 in general you should be using services if you are doing network functions which "stay alive forever", Mar 01 08:59:25 Yes, although there's not a lot going on once it's rotated Mar 01 08:59:45 goatmaster: what do you mean? Mar 01 09:01:19 My doInBackgroudn does not get called once I rotate Mar 01 09:01:41 perhaps this is because my initial parms are lost upon rotation? Mar 01 09:01:57 goatmaster: probably. how do you pass those initial parameters? Mar 01 09:02:49 At the end of my oncreate a call a function that starts my asynctasks Mar 01 09:02:52 (and where do you get them?) Mar 01 09:03:48 they dont essentially get anyhting they call networking commands that stay alive for the remainder of the program Mar 01 09:04:11 Hi, I'm making an application that will launch other apps. However, it'll not be a homescreen replacement. Getting the list of installed apps, is a major bottleneck in launch-speed. I am looking for a way of accessing the list of apps in a speedy matter. Anyone have suggestions ? Mar 01 09:04:14 do your networking in a service :/ Mar 01 09:04:50 g00s: I think that's the solution I need... Mar 01 09:05:06 IntentService ftw Mar 01 09:05:27 goatmaster: do you want that AsyncTask to restart every time the screen is rotated? Mar 01 09:05:36 hrnt: no Mar 01 09:05:39 if not, then basically you should be using a service Mar 01 09:05:42 Okay, Mar 01 09:05:44 thanks guys, Mar 01 09:05:44 there are some other ways around that Mar 01 09:05:50 but it is a bit tricky Mar 01 09:05:52 or hackish Mar 01 09:05:58 (if you are not using fragments) Mar 01 09:06:10 Going to get some sleep. I rather do a intentService and get it done the right way :0 Mar 01 09:06:13 :) Mar 01 09:06:35 How would you Guys create a 2-column-layout? LinearLyouts, Relative or Table? Mar 01 09:11:20 No idea? Mar 01 09:12:41 styler2go, linear maybe. You can use all three to get what you want Mar 01 09:13:01 hey guys... my lighting problem... on the X86 emulator it looks just fine :| Mar 01 09:15:06 hey Mar 01 09:20:30 Why am I only able to cancel the newest notification here? http://pastebin.com/Fx5p4qCK Mar 01 09:29:32 how do you cancel them? Mar 01 09:32:44 looks like it is not written there: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/FragmentTransaction.html Mar 01 09:33:01 but I can give transaction.setCustomAnimations(0, R.anim.myAnim); Mar 01 09:33:09 and it won't crash because of 0 Mar 01 09:34:47 I'd like to ask how strong is this assumption? :) Mar 01 09:35:35 heh... simpsons "tapped out" seems to ignore my volume settings Mar 01 09:35:42 4:30am... "WOOHOO, NEW BUILDING!" Mar 01 09:36:05 root66: just disable its notification compeltely Mar 01 09:36:23 doing that right now Mar 01 09:36:27 was the first thing i did when it bothered me with new building shit, and I couldn't seem an easy way to turn notifications out in the game Mar 01 09:36:27 pretty annoying Mar 01 09:36:37 so blacklist it for notifications Mar 01 09:36:54 you would almost think EA made this game or something ;) Mar 01 09:37:02 yeah since 4.0 better don't mess up with notifications :) Mar 01 09:37:18 you will never be able to send a notification to your user again Mar 01 09:37:24 isn't that just one of those games that nag you to death about paying for stuff in-game? Mar 01 09:37:43 appel1: notifications are mainly about.. everything in the game Mar 01 09:37:47 Hey again Mar 01 09:37:55 so far I only got asked to buy one thing that I would have needed real money for Mar 01 09:37:58 timroes: really awful design then :) Mar 01 09:38:04 early in the game, just to basically let me know it was an option Mar 01 09:38:06 Is there a good way to work with multiple people on one ecplise android project? Mar 01 09:38:06 at least from what i saw, since i blacklisted them directly after that just informed me for finished building processes Mar 01 09:38:19 yeah also the balancing of the game is really bad Mar 01 09:38:29 I do agree there Mar 01 09:38:30 have seen so much better building games, with better balancing Mar 01 09:38:45 this looks almost like a piece by piece rebuild of the men in black game Mar 01 09:38:56 was that made by ea? if so I say it's probably a reskin Mar 01 09:38:57 but it has (a) pretty lovely graphics and (b) ofc the charm of a simpsons city Mar 01 09:39:17 yeah it really does remind me what I used to like about simpsons Mar 01 09:39:22 but if you take the theme away its worse than most of the other building games I've played Mar 01 09:39:40 no one knows such a thing? :D Mar 01 09:39:45 styler2go: scm Mar 01 09:40:48 appel1: Any other idea? Mar 01 09:40:59 appel1: i mean, do you have any link or something? Mar 01 09:43:11 styler2go: you could google for: eclipse source control Mar 01 09:44:47 styler2go: grown ups use source control. it doesn't matter what language its in or what ide you are using. Mar 01 09:45:02 svn, git, pick your poison Mar 01 09:45:41 if you find that too difficult, share a dropbox login. it keeps backups of every single time a file is saved and has a windows context dialog for restoring them. Mar 01 09:46:11 i am searching something where you can edit one file with two people at the same time Mar 01 09:46:18 dude... Mar 01 09:46:24 I give up. Mar 01 09:46:30 team viewer Mar 01 09:46:31 and something integrated in eclipse, i dont want to get the "out of sync" error all time... Mar 01 09:47:42 I think go2meeting was made just for you Mar 01 09:47:59 <- dick Mar 01 09:49:22 styler2go: http://eclipse.org/ecf/ Mar 01 09:50:08 video of it in action here: http://www.vimeo.com/1195398 Mar 01 09:50:24 we tried this but.. yeah.. it is difficult to set up Mar 01 09:50:32 wait wait wait Mar 01 09:50:39 so you found the perfect answer, made by the people at eclipse Mar 01 09:50:42 but you want a different solution Mar 01 09:50:45 because it was too hard to set up Mar 01 09:51:11 * root66 smashes his coffee mug on the floor and points to the door Mar 01 09:51:42 not me Mar 01 09:51:46 my co worker Mar 01 09:52:17 * root66 shakes his arm with emphasis Mar 01 09:52:32 you are not funny ;) Mar 01 09:54:14 appel1: On line 3 I show the line that cancels the notifications Mar 01 09:54:23 sorry for the late respons Mar 01 09:57:03 Quacked: so you remove the runnable that updates the notification, is that what you mean with cancel? Mar 01 09:58:02 Hmm... yeah Mar 01 09:58:49 It works for the first notification but only on the newest if there are more than one Mar 01 09:59:08 I cant find any information about how to setup a ecf server, any idea for what i could search? Mar 01 09:59:35 Quacked: so you don't actually want to cancel the notification? Mar 01 10:00:30 Well I do, I've setDelteIntent to be that CancelAlarmReceiver which stops the runnable Mar 01 10:00:43 ah, ok Mar 01 10:00:48 At line 28 Mar 01 10:02:05 I converted from IntentService to Service and this problem showed up. It worked when each startService triggered an onHandleInvent instead of onStartCommand Mar 01 10:06:17 Quacked: no idea, but it seems a bit wasteful to have one runnable per alarm when you could just have a list of alarms to update and one runnable that updates all of them Mar 01 10:07:24 Quacked: unless you happen to get the same alarm id for multiple alarms? do you ensure they are unique somehow? Mar 01 10:07:27 heho Mar 01 10:07:52 appel1: they should be unique with the array.put(alarmId, t); Mar 01 10:08:10 a new alarmId is sent with putExtra for each startService Mar 01 10:08:24 Quacked: and you know that each alarmid is unique? Mar 01 10:09:01 yeah, in runNextTask the Notifications gets updated correctly even if there are more than one Mar 01 10:09:18 runNextTask takes alarmId as a parameter Mar 01 10:09:56 and so should setTimer() that has the taskHandler Mar 01 10:10:23 But I'm guessing the problem is in the setTimer and with alarmId as you say Mar 01 10:10:28 Quacked: and you get a different alarm id in CancelAlarmReceiver? do you delete the runnable from your list after you've called removeCallbacks ? Mar 01 10:10:54 well, i've finished my first app. and now i want to start 2 new apps, and there are 2 local businesses that want me to build apps for them. so i am going to build 4 apps in the next little while.. Mar 01 10:11:09 I am looking for pointers on architecture and software design for android apps that will help me get MAX reuse Mar 01 10:11:31 Quacked: easiest is probably to step through your code in the debugger to figure what goes wrong Mar 01 10:11:46 right now everything is in 1 project, a handful of packages, and it's not really setup nice. i imagine i should create a common/shared package or library, and use that for all the apps. but I neeed websites / books to help me plan it out upfront Mar 01 10:12:47 DanielBusan: have you read about library projects? http://developer.android.com/tools/projects/index.html Mar 01 10:13:22 I think so, on line 25 I do a putExtra that is retrieved in the CancelAlarmReceiver, but I'm now thinking that that variable gets "overwritten" when I do another startService Mar 01 10:13:35 That may actually be the cause.. hmm Mar 01 10:14:01 I don't delete the runnable after removeCallback. Do I need that? Mar 01 10:16:23 Quacked: oh, yes, you reuse the same Builder instance put do not update the intents so all your notifications gets updated to use intents for the newest alarm Mar 01 10:17:15 Quacked: if you don't delete it you will leak it Mar 01 10:17:35 Quacked: that is, it will remain in memory until the app process is destroyed Mar 01 10:18:56 I see Mar 01 10:18:59 Basically just NotificationService.array.delete(alarmId); ? Mar 01 10:19:23 Quacked: yes Mar 01 10:19:30 Thanks :) Mar 01 10:19:59 Also, I started an alarm that went on during the night for 8 hours, and I used another app that checked that it held the wakelock Mar 01 10:20:09 But when I started using my phone in the morning, the notification stopped (it froze) Mar 01 10:20:29 And the alarm did not go off either (my app is a countdown timer basically) Mar 01 10:21:09 I don't get why it froze while I was using the phone. I was expecting it to stop during the night :P Mar 01 10:21:24 But I guess the wakelock took care of holding it active during the night at least Mar 01 10:22:29 you shouldn't hold a wake lock :) and use a wakeup alarm with AlarmManager to wake the phone up if necessary when it's time to trigger the alarm. Mar 01 10:22:47 Yeah, I use AlarmManager to sound the alarm Mar 01 10:22:56 But I'm holding a wakeup to update Notification every second, hehe Mar 01 10:23:25 Maybe that is unnecessary? Mar 01 10:25:49 Quacked: if the screen is off and the user wants the device to be sleeping I doubt he'd appreciate if you held it awake to update something he can't see Mar 01 10:26:43 Should I do something that updates the Notification only if screen is on? Mar 01 10:27:29 Quacked: if you don't hold a wake lock that'll take care of itself Mar 01 10:27:48 Ok Mar 01 10:28:12 But I need to make it START_STICKY perhaps? So it's not removed by Android I mean Mar 01 10:28:44 well, that's so the service will get restarted if the app process is killed to make room for some other app. Mar 01 10:28:51 Yeah Mar 01 10:29:06 so you need to persist your alarms in a database or something Mar 01 10:29:21 Yeah, it would require some extra coding Mar 01 10:30:43 On my galaxy nexus your app would break if I started something that needed a lot of memory like Chrome, especially if update is greater than a few days because then there isn't all that much memory left for apps Mar 01 10:30:54 not update, uptime Mar 01 10:31:24 I see Mar 01 10:31:52 Quacked: and you ran into the same issue when your notifications "froze" Mar 01 10:32:04 Yeah, that's what I was thinking Mar 01 10:32:14 Quacked: they didn't actually freeze, it is just that your app process was restarted but your service didn't resume properly Mar 01 10:32:58 appel1: thx, looking at the library projects page now. Mar 01 10:34:00 heho Mar 01 10:35:11 i need to inject an additional group into a SimpleCursorTreeAdapter. that group is not represented in the underlying cursor (a SqliteCursor). i somehow need to create a "virtual shadow group", or whatever one might call it Mar 01 10:35:12 appel1: on the "you reuse the same Builder instance put do not update the intents so all your notifications gets updated to use intents for the newest alarm" note, do you have a suggestion for a fix? Mar 01 10:35:52 both injecting them in the SimpleCursorTreeAdapter, or into the SqliteCursor (i could just extend the SqliteCursor and overwrite a few methods...? maybe? but how/which?) could work for me Mar 01 10:36:37 Quacked: you could update the intents to match the alarm your updating for in the builder instance, or keep one builder for each alarm.. Mar 01 10:39:11 are most of you doing test driven android development? creating test classes and cases as you go for most of your methods, etc? Mar 01 10:40:18 appel1: how would I do the first? Mar 01 10:43:53 my brain is still sleeping :) Mar 01 10:44:18 Quacked: same way you set them in the first place :) Mar 01 10:47:20 Hmm.. simply moving them into the Runnable would work, wouldn't it? Mar 01 10:51:05 Maybe not :p Mar 01 10:53:20 http://imageupload.co.uk/files/w6e3ewuhpprbagpiisrb.jpg Mar 01 10:53:41 looks like they used negative margins to layout that text? Mar 01 10:54:37 or how Mar 01 10:56:48 hi, when i create an app in eclipse with tabs+swipe, i get an ugly icon an the top. How do i remove it but not the tabs? actionBar.hide() hides both. Mar 01 10:58:39 you mean you want to hide the actionbar but not the tabs? Mar 01 10:58:55 if so, don't even try to do it, sounds like you want to create some iOs shit Mar 01 11:01:02 naa, i dont want some ios crap. it's just that i got 5 tabs and icon and app-name takes 50% of the bar. and the tabs gets so pushed together. Mar 01 11:04:06 in the AVD it looks ok, the i get it in two rown, but on my flyer it is on one row Mar 01 11:04:58 yeah actionbar decides itself if there is enough space to leave the tabs inside the actionbar or pull it into the topbar Mar 01 11:05:40 and with 5 tabs I would already consider giving it another thought if you really want to use fixed tabs, (also style guides say, up to 5 tabs is okay) Mar 01 11:06:15 ohh, ok. so it is gonna look different on decive to device then. Mar 01 11:06:25 i could remove a tab or two i think Mar 01 11:06:50 cHarNe2: yeah ofc it does look different :) Mar 01 11:07:02 also on the actionbar is a bit higher than on smartphones Mar 01 11:07:13 i guess 56dp and 48dp (but not sure about that) Mar 01 11:07:17 ok Mar 01 11:07:32 then i might need an other device to try this on Mar 01 11:07:52 or use the emulator :) Mar 01 11:08:12 but to answer your actual question: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/ActionBar.html#setDisplayShowHomeEnabled%28boolean%29 you can use to hide the icon (and the method below in the docs to hide your title) Mar 01 11:08:24 but before you hide title or icon I would give the tabs another thought Mar 01 11:09:12 e.g. if they are linked together, so the user sees a clear link (e.g. google play: new apps, new paied apps, best app, best paied apps) you could consider using the viewpage indicator Mar 01 11:09:38 or scrollable tabs how its called in the official docs Mar 01 11:09:50 http://developer.android.com/design/patterns/actionbar.html -> Scrollable tabs Mar 01 11:10:04 ye, i got one funcion of the app in a seperate tab atm. Mar 01 11:10:09 but i can change that :) Mar 01 11:10:29 or you can think about using spinners (the paragraph below in the design docs) when its mostly about different views Mar 01 11:10:41 really highly depends on your use case :) Mar 01 11:10:49 scroll-tabs it what im using now Mar 01 11:10:55 they look and feel great Mar 01 11:11:04 scroll tabs? Mar 01 11:11:12 ye, i think so? Mar 01 11:11:15 i thought you are using fixed tabs Mar 01 11:11:52 no, these can slide from side to side Mar 01 11:12:15 http://i.stack.imgur.com/c0uIB.jpg Mar 01 11:12:18 that are scrollable tabs Mar 01 11:12:31 ye, like those Mar 01 11:12:33 http://developer.android.com/design/media/action_bar_pattern_default_tabs.png Mar 01 11:12:35 that are fixed tabs Mar 01 11:12:39 appel1: did you mean like this? Line 41 and 90: http://pastebin.com/WjzF6x4J Mar 01 11:12:47 okay but shouldn't these go to a second bar also on larger screen? Mar 01 11:13:07 hmm, they look like the black ones in your secont link Mar 01 11:13:14 baahh :P Mar 01 11:13:19 yeah thats fixed tabs :) Mar 01 11:13:40 mostly good if users will jump a lot between, and the content of the tabs isn't linked together very well Mar 01 11:13:41 ok, then i got fixed tabs that move :D Mar 01 11:13:48 Quacked: something like that yes Mar 01 11:13:59 yeah above 3 i guess they always beginn to "move" Mar 01 11:14:09 though i don;t like the behavior why I normally don't use it above 3 tabs Mar 01 11:16:14 If a button is pressed to launch a settings activity, will the activity in the background still be present? and if so, can i change variables in that background activity in the settings activity? Mar 01 11:17:16 appel1: goodie, now I need to think about getting the service to be "restartable". When you said every alarm into a database, what did you mean? What if I store the time remaining values of Notifications into getSharedPreferences and then just have onStartCommand start the notifications again? Mar 01 11:19:59 Quacked: either as a shared preference or a sqlite database :) Mar 01 11:20:41 Quacked: time remaining is probably a bad idea, better to store when the alarm should go off Mar 01 11:21:03 Yeah, obviously, hehe Mar 01 11:22:35 But AlarmManager is persistent right? It won't be cleared when Chrome etc is opened? Mar 01 11:23:04 Quacked: no, only when the device is restarted Mar 01 11:24:05 Good, thanks :) Mar 01 11:24:35 Able to resume from boot will be in the next version :P Mar 01 11:26:01 hi there Mar 01 11:34:29 How come that setImageURI(Uri.fromFile(fileInSdCard)) causes an OutOfMemory exception while setImageBitmap(bMap); with bMap containing the same picture doesn't? Mar 01 11:41:21 memoryleak: different decode options / scaling? Mar 01 12:00:25 jellow Mar 01 12:02:35 I am working with HttpURLConnection class. I am trying to understand how the connection works when in your request is attached some data Mar 01 12:04:11 I guess when you call openConnection() it should be alredy loaded the data you want to send wrapped in the stream provided by getoutputStream method Mar 01 12:04:20 is it correct? Mar 01 12:05:00 the other way, it is open the connection and then write in the output stream Mar 01 12:07:00