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Apr 10 03:40:26 <pfn> meh, why does ProgressDialog take a context arg for show() only to crash if you pass it a non-Activity context
Apr 10 03:47:32 <pfn> meh, given an application context (or service context) I wish there were a way to determine the currently active activity object (from your app, of course) null otherwise
Apr 10 03:50:13 <pfn> screw it, I'll just keep a weakref to the last activity in the application context
Apr 10 04:01:34 <blognewb> 4/9/13
Apr 10 04:02:38 <bankai_> wow you're really far in the future! come back a few months
Apr 10 04:33:46 <debarko> I am trying to connect Gameclosure SDK with Facebook Android SDK
Apr 10 04:33:52 <debarko> I am getting this erro
Apr 10 04:33:55 <debarko> {Session state:CREATED, token:{AccessToken token:ACCESS_TOKEN_REMOVED permissions:[]}, appId:531477826904985}
Apr 10 04:34:01 <debarko> from the Facebook SDK
Apr 10 04:34:22 <debarko> that is the printing of the session variable
Apr 10 04:34:29 <debarko> any help would be greatly appreciated
Apr 10 04:34:37 <debarko> I am trying to log in a user
Apr 10 04:52:55 <roger_rabbit> in case anyone is interested, great GCM tutorial here, PHP/mySQL backend: http://www.androidhive.info/2012/10/android-push-notifications-using-google-cloud-messaging-gcm-php-and-mysql/
Apr 10 04:53:44 <roger_rabbit> joar`: ^
Apr 10 04:58:38 <wabz> the php doesn't do nearly enough there
Apr 10 04:58:56 <wabz> I don't know why you'd read something like that instead of the official docs
Apr 10 04:59:13 <wabz> $registatoin_ids lol seriously
Apr 10 04:59:55 <wabz> there is a LOT more you need to do with the response
Apr 10 05:49:38 <enwary> Hey guys I currently built a server out of java for my androidgame that I'm trying to extend to support more users
Apr 10 05:50:08 <enwary> Can anyone point me in the right direction of things to read to extend my server to support thousands of users
Apr 10 05:50:27 <enwary> And proper ways of doings things, things to watch out for etc
Apr 10 05:52:36 <deebo> not quite that simple, depends on a million things
Apr 10 06:00:03 <enwary> How does it depend on a million things...
Apr 10 06:02:04 <deebo> there are so many variables in server development
Apr 10 06:07:30 <roger_rabbit> wabz: what might one consider adding that is essential that you feel is missing from that tut?
Apr 10 06:26:14 <xpl0iter> I have set android:textIsSelectable="true" in the textview and still when I execute the app, it shows TextView does not support text selection. Action mode cancelled.
Apr 10 06:26:22 <xpl0iter> Can somebody please tell me why this happens?
Apr 10 06:42:14 <wabz> roger_rabbit: pretty much everything here http://developer.android.com/google/gcm/gcm.html#response
Apr 10 06:42:39 <wabz> checking canonical ids, error responses etc
Apr 10 06:43:20 <roger_rabbit> much appreciated, I am an AJAX dev, so this is all still rather new to me.. I only really require a webview template and this, any registration info, like email etc is pure bonus
Apr 10 06:43:44 <wabz> well if anyone copies that post they're pretty screwed
Apr 10 06:44:00 <wabz> you need to be able to remove ids from your db if the user uninstalls the app for example
Apr 10 06:44:33 <roger_rabbit> it's working well for me so far, but if you have a good example of a nice integrated open source app that is better please do share
Apr 10 06:44:56 <wabz> not the app part
Apr 10 06:44:59 <roger_rabbit> if i send to a device that's been uninstalled it won't be delivered, right
Apr 10 06:45:15 <wabz> right, but if the device ids are never removed from your db....
Apr 10 06:45:16 <roger_rabbit> that's no big deal for me, that's the preferred action, i don't want to nag anyone
Apr 10 06:45:31 <wabz> it will jsut grow and grow and grow
Apr 10 06:45:41 <roger_rabbit> its for a conference
Apr 10 06:45:48 <roger_rabbit> the max attendees are 700 people
Apr 10 06:45:48 <wabz> what?
Apr 10 06:46:10 <roger_rabbit> this company is handing everyone a tablet when they walk in the door
Apr 10 06:47:18 <wabz> well I woudln't be encouraging anyone to read/follow that tutorial
Apr 10 06:49:06 <roger_rabbit> if i had the time i would do it with cordova/phonecap and be cognecent of canonical IDs and whatnot, but I just got the spec monday and need to have the APK packaged and shipped to vendor by EOB thursday
Apr 10 06:49:14 <roger_rabbit> *gap
Apr 10 06:50:48 <roger_rabbit> but I greatly appreciate the advice, I wish I never wasted time with anything else the past 10 years and just studied android dev, I would be much better off
Apr 10 06:50:53 <roger_rabbit> this stuff is like alchemy
Apr 10 06:51:18 <roger_rabbit> allows you to create money out of thin air
Apr 10 07:10:45 <g00s> hm, thats lame https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=41626#c20
Apr 10 07:17:25 <monsti> g00s: 1) lol? 2) i think in "big" company stuff like this is very common
Apr 10 07:17:55 <monsti> g00s: an example of the same BS is the camera hardware on android
Apr 10 07:18:23 <monsti> "take a picture with the default orientation" is a non trivial task in android
Apr 10 07:21:47 <p_l> I think it might be related to *how* the echo cancellation is implemented
Apr 10 07:21:54 <p_l> i.e. hardware issue
Apr 10 07:22:10 <p_l> it's like people who complain why they can't do voice calls on some tablets
Apr 10 07:22:18 <Brian|CS> So I've got this problem.  I've got a flash player embedded in a webview with autoplay=true.  However, autoplay doesn't work on android devices.  ANy way yo automatically start my flash player when the web view loads?
Apr 10 07:24:53 <Abhijit> each time i make changes in code, do i need to restart the emulator? or it will automatically load the newly changed app? or old one/
Apr 10 07:25:34 <appel1> Abhijit: it should update the app in the existing emulator instance
Apr 10 07:25:45 <Abhijit> ok
Apr 10 07:27:33 <monsti> Brian|CS: i am not sure about this, but i think the user can decide if a plugin is loaded in a webbroswer by default
Apr 10 07:27:57 <monsti> Brian|CS: the flash plugin is a major battery eater - so this would make sense to turn if off by default
Apr 10 07:28:52 <appel1> wasn't flash support removed? :)
Apr 10 07:29:14 <monsti> yeah steve jobs decided that for "The Earth"
Apr 10 07:29:47 <monsti> and we can't ask him why :(
Apr 10 07:29:51 <Ge0rG> actually, given the code quality of the flash plugin, it was a very wise decision that should have been adopted by the industry
Apr 10 07:30:21 <p_l> monsti: it was to better ban pr0n
Apr 10 07:30:46 <p_l> monsti: leading to situation where the only websites that really support HTML5 video are the porn ones :P
Apr 10 07:31:53 <monsti> on my hackint0sh netbook i installed a flash blocker 2-3 years ago
Apr 10 07:31:58 <Brian|CS> monsti: It's not that the flash is off, it's that it doesn't allow autoplay
Apr 10 07:32:01 <monsti> resulting a 20-30% gain in battery
Apr 10 07:32:42 <g00s> the best gain in battery i have had recently, was switching to FF and using noscript / adblock + / UnloadTab
Apr 10 07:33:08 <g00s> UnloadTab is great, it .. uh, unloads tha tab, after some period of inactivity
Apr 10 07:33:08 <monsti> adblock is so nice!
Apr 10 07:33:19 <capella> monsti++
Apr 10 07:33:29 <g00s> monsti: you know google removed it from Play last week
Apr 10 07:33:41 <monsti> LOL ;)
Apr 10 07:33:56 <monsti> "It works!" ;)
Apr 10 07:33:58 <p_l> well... I don't see adblock working without breaking ToS anyway
Apr 10 07:34:00 <g00s> its all fun and games … until you mess with add revenue man :D
Apr 10 07:34:43 <monsti> or google analytics ;)
Apr 10 07:34:57 <capella> theres Android AdAway, and Firefox Adblock Plus add-on
Apr 10 07:35:28 <capella> Firefox Adblock isnt the same as the play store thingy
Apr 10 07:35:45 <p_l> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/04/09/2246207/nvidia-releases-optimus-linux-driver-with-new-features <--- and meanwhile getting a laptop just became much, much easier :>
Apr 10 07:35:51 <monsti> do you guys think facebook will create an API for FB "Home"?
Apr 10 07:36:05 <g00s> capella: yeah. but on a more philosophical note; I think as a user - I should have complete control what web sites my machine / phone can contact
Apr 10 07:36:14 <monsti> p_l: i wish they would add a hackint0sh driver, too
Apr 10 07:36:20 <monsti> p_l: i am on the HD4000 only
Apr 10 07:36:27 <capella> host file :)
Apr 10 07:36:43 <g00s> capella: yeah - isn;t that what Adblock modified ?
Apr 10 07:36:49 <g00s> one of them modified that
Apr 10 07:36:54 <p_l> g00s: I think it did some other stuff as well
Apr 10 07:36:54 <g00s> (which was taken off play)
Apr 10 07:36:59 <monsti> g00s: a germany university added a sandbox feature to android apps
Apr 10 07:37:14 <p_l> g00s: also, if it rooted the phone, then it pretty sure broken the ToS
Apr 10 07:37:15 <capella> AdAway ... Adblock for FF does it blacklist on the fly
Apr 10 07:37:17 <g00s> monsti: its probably needed :)
Apr 10 07:37:17 <monsti> g00s: you can decide if a specific app gets a specific fake contact list
Apr 10 07:37:26 <p_l> and you can't use hosts without rooting
Apr 10 07:37:39 <p_l> monsti: hackintosh driver?
Apr 10 07:37:47 <p_l> won't happen
Apr 10 07:38:07 <monsti> p_l: yeah :) just my wish request for nvidia ... in a parallel universe
Apr 10 07:38:08 <p_l> monsti: afaik the mac drivers are in huge chunk controlled by Apple itself
Apr 10 07:38:36 <monsti> p_l: GUI drivers are a well kept secret by apple
Apr 10 07:38:58 <p_l> monsti: less of a secret and more of "we only let you make crippled drivers" ;)
Apr 10 07:39:09 <monsti> there are no docs and no public reference drivers - only a very old 10.5 VESA
Apr 10 07:39:19 <capella> AdAway mods the hostsfile and affects all your apps and was removed from Google PLay
Apr 10 07:39:20 <capella> AdblockPlus is a FF addon only affecting your browsing habits
Apr 10 07:39:47 <sjava> is it possible to send text over ussd?
Apr 10 07:39:52 <monsti> p_l: also the IO kit is a mess on apple ;) obj-c, c, c++ compiler variant ;)
Apr 10 07:40:13 <p_l> monsti: Obj-C is the "old" IO Kit
Apr 10 07:40:21 <p_l> C++ is the OSX one :)
Apr 10 07:40:45 <monsti> p_l: yes but any kext i wrote or patched required some gui stuff
Apr 10 07:41:00 <monsti> then you get mad with switching languages between elements of one project
Apr 10 07:42:04 <monsti> btw. did anybody test the 5.1 beta of Qt?
Apr 10 07:42:09 <monsti> they added android support
Apr 10 07:42:16 <monsti> but i am not sure how this works
Apr 10 07:42:32 <monsti> did they use the same "you need a hefty 15mb runtlime" like mono?
Apr 10 07:43:09 <g00s> monsti: maybe its for NDK NativeActivty folks ?
Apr 10 07:43:12 <g00s> i have no idea
Apr 10 07:43:57 <monsti> i like to play with stuff - but i think this is a "you need a 1gb download and some time to make the toolchain"
Apr 10 07:53:53 <Abhijit> hi. i insert images by creating new icon and using imageview. but all of those images are looking blur. like i have stretched them.
Apr 10 07:53:55 <Abhijit> help please
Apr 10 07:54:39 <Abhijit> i have used relative layour. and given fixed size of 200dp x 200dp
Apr 10 08:02:44 <Abhijit> shall i reduce the size of images using gimp or something?
Apr 10 08:06:22 <ninharp> scaleType?
Apr 10 08:10:55 <Abhijit> ninharp, i set scale type to fit center and its not working. all images are blurred
Apr 10 08:17:51 <g00s> p_l: a guy in #firefox said their stats show the avg user has like 2-3 tabs open; and that people have asked for removing tabs altogether
Apr 10 08:22:28 <alex_PP> really?
Apr 10 08:22:35 <alex_PP> i usually have about 20 in chrome
Apr 10 08:22:53 <alex_PP> without exaggeration
Apr 10 08:23:39 <g00s> oh yeah, 20 easily. i used to use chrome but it took too much memory. i have about 30 tabs now in FF, using 400mb memory
Apr 10 08:24:06 <g00s> maybe with Blink some things will change for Chrome
Apr 10 08:24:26 <p_l> g00s: ... was it in mobile?
Apr 10 08:24:33 <g00s> no desktop !
Apr 10 08:24:52 <g00s> they said almost nobody has more than 5 tabs open
Apr 10 08:25:02 <p_l> g00s: sounds like corporate environment :>
Apr 10 08:25:20 <g00s> heh, well FF is used in the corporation a lot
Apr 10 08:28:57 <p_l> in my experience, the low-tab-count people are rather the Chrome ones
Apr 10 08:29:19 <p_l> the ones who constantly respond to me with "dude, have you heard of bookmarks?" and need extensions to manage theirs ;>
Apr 10 08:29:40 <g00s> p_l: they did mention Tab Groups / Panorama is being removed from core though. After I plated around with Tab Groups, i liked the idea
Apr 10 08:29:50 <g00s> *played
Apr 10 08:29:54 <p_l> tab groups would have been fine
Apr 10 08:30:04 <p_l> Panorama was inexcusable in being *on* all the time
Apr 10 08:30:41 <g00s> really? i didn't know it was on until you showed it
Apr 10 08:31:05 <p_l> g00s: it was damn easy to trigger it in beginning
Apr 10 08:35:33 <alex_PP> i like that un about:config in FF I can change the warning limit for openeing a lot of tabs
Apr 10 08:35:40 <alex_PP> not found out how to do that in chrome
Apr 10 08:37:08 <g00s> there are a few really nice FF features; one is disabling GIF animations; the other is forcing every page to use a certain font. I have used Stylish & Co but that was a pain. UnloadTab rules too
Apr 10 08:37:36 <g00s> i'm weary of Personas though
Apr 10 08:39:52 <alex_PP> when i changed to chrome, i though "OMG all my extensions!" but the only ones I have installed now are HTTPS everywhere and addblock plus
Apr 10 08:40:15 <alex_PP> don't miss anything and I'm free of FF
Apr 10 08:40:17 <alex_PP> :D
Apr 10 08:41:02 <g00s> i have noscript and tree style tabs
Apr 10 08:41:12 <g00s> p_l: turned me on to that one :D
Apr 10 08:42:44 <g00s> i didn't know you could install ubuntu server with a special VM setting for low memory ( ~ 66 mb )
Apr 10 08:42:55 <g00s> thats like one Chrome tab XD
Apr 10 08:47:08 <lapdis> Im trying to open the web browser with an url. The standard solution seem to be this:
Apr 10 08:47:08 <lapdis> startActivity(new Intent(Intent.ACTION_VIEW, Uri.parse(url)));
Apr 10 08:47:18 <lapdis> but it does not encode complex url:s correctly. How to do? :/
Apr 10 09:10:25 <Abhijit> how can i make the buttons and texts go below the phone screen when screen is small compared what i have designed for? currently the button remains at above the bottom border of phone screen. i want it to go down automatically.
Apr 10 09:10:29 <Abhijit> help please
Apr 10 09:12:11 <mobydev> hi, how do i remove "\/" from a string I have ? The compiler is complaining its not a proper escape sequence….
Apr 10 09:13:18 <ninharp> mobydev, String.replace?
Apr 10 09:13:28 <mobydev> yes but...
Apr 10 09:14:06 <mobydev> it won't accept "\/"
Apr 10 09:14:14 <mobydev> it lists it as an error
Apr 10 09:14:21 <mobydev> but i want to remove it from my string
Apr 10 09:14:22 <capella> \\/
Apr 10 09:14:28 <capella> "\\/"
Apr 10 09:14:28 <mobydev> oooh
Apr 10 09:14:34 <mobydev> pretty....
Apr 10 09:14:42 <mobydev> let me try that
Apr 10 09:15:07 <mobydev> brb
Apr 10 09:15:48 <ninharp> hmm anyone uses andengine?
Apr 10 09:15:59 <ninharp> my contact listener wont work properly
Apr 10 09:19:07 <mobydev> hmm does anyone know how to do that with a regex ?
Apr 10 09:22:49 <ninharp> s/\\\//g
Apr 10 09:23:03 <Abhijit> how can i make the buttons and texts go below the phone screen when screen is small compared what i have designed for? currently the button remains at above the bottom border of phone screen. i want it to go down automatically.
Apr 10 09:23:07 <ninharp> oh mom
Apr 10 09:23:17 <ninharp> s/\\\///g
Apr 10 09:23:41 <ninharp> replaces the \/ from the string
Apr 10 09:24:55 <pragma-> pro-tip, you can use delimiters other than / in regex
Apr 10 09:25:03 <pragma-> pro-pro-tip, don't  use regex
Apr 10 09:25:12 <ninharp> pragma-, i know ;)
Apr 10 09:25:16 <ninharp> echo "Blah \/ Blupp"|sed -e"s,\\\/,,g"
Apr 10 09:25:17 <ninharp> Blah  Blupp
Apr 10 09:27:09 <rynojvr> Does anyone know of any good Asynchronous Networking frameworks?
Apr 10 09:30:00 <Ge0rG> gah! when I switch from activity A to B, which both bind to my service, I get service.onUnbind() but no service.onBind() called! WTF?
Apr 10 09:30:21 <Ge0rG> it should be exactly the opposite behavior
Apr 10 09:30:29 <g00s> hmm
Apr 10 09:31:11 <g00s> the async nature of the binding stuff - if its in process - is such a pita and should be burned
Apr 10 09:31:39 <Ge0rG> actually I don't care if onUnbind is called or not, as long as onBind is called last.
Apr 10 09:31:48 <Ge0rG> but its not called at all
Apr 10 09:31:53 <g00s> Ge0rG: binding in onStart() onStop () ?
Apr 10 09:32:23 <Ge0rG> g00s: onPause / onResume
Apr 10 09:32:32 <g00s> well, thats not so good :)
Apr 10 09:32:47 <g00s> move to onStart  / onStop and see if that helps
Apr 10 09:32:55 <Ge0rG> g00s: why?
Apr 10 09:33:17 <Abhijit> how can i make the buttons and texts go below the phone screen when screen is small compared what i have designed for? currently the button remains at above the bottom border of phone screen. i want it to go down automatically.
Apr 10 09:33:19 <g00s> i should be able to answer that very quickly - but i'm forgetting
Apr 10 09:33:27 <g00s> which means, i'm getting rusty
Apr 10 09:33:47 <Ge0rG> Abhijit: put it all in a ScrollView?
Apr 10 09:34:31 <Ge0rG> g00s: I'm pretty sure I followed best practices here
Apr 10 09:34:39 <g00s> no … :)
Apr 10 09:34:55 <g00s> but i'm dissapointed i forgot the reason
Apr 10 09:35:11 <g00s> see, i've been spending too much time on iOS
Apr 10 09:35:23 <Abhijit> Ge0rG, ok
Apr 10 09:35:26 <bau> hi all, I need to create an android app which can stream a radio channel, from this link: mms://89.96.234.34:8000 what can I use?
Apr 10 09:35:30 <Ge0rG> ah, there it is: http://stackoverflow.com/a/2304794/539443
Apr 10 09:35:46 <g00s> yeah, hackbod +1
Apr 10 09:37:19 <Ge0rG> ok, changed. compiling & testing
Apr 10 09:40:16 <Ge0rG> ok, it still messes up onBind/onUnbind. PITA
Apr 10 09:40:39 <Ge0rG> do I need a fucking global variable to handle that stuff?
Apr 10 09:41:13 <rynojvr> GeOrG: Silly question: have you verified that the code is actually being run? Like a toast or Log.d() something?
Apr 10 09:41:45 <rynojvr> That's bitten be in the ass more times than I care to count.
Apr 10 09:42:05 <Ge0rG> rynojvr: yes, I've got Log.d in both onBind and onUnbind
Apr 10 09:42:17 <Ge0rG> anyway, I'll settle for a different approach now.
Apr 10 09:42:31 <Ge0rG> one that might maintain the remains of my sanity...
Apr 10 09:43:50 <rynojvr> GeOrG: I meant in the previous onResume() now onStart() to verify that the actual binding code for Activity A and B is being run.
Apr 10 09:44:14 <rynojvr> But Go for anything that maintains your sanity.
Apr 10 09:45:59 <Ge0rG> rynojvr: oh, didn't think of that one, no.
Apr 10 09:46:20 <Ge0rG> rynojvr: but onResume() should be called when the activity stack changes, so I assumed it would ;)
Apr 10 09:49:30 <g00s> i hate these weird timing corner cases. going back and looking at old code becomes difficult - reasoning about the timing of some things
Apr 10 09:49:56 <g00s> so many areas of android need improvement
Apr 10 09:49:58 <rynojvr> GeOrG: understandable assumption, but I've done funky things with inheritance and polymorphism of my activities, and then depending on the overrides, the behaviour isn't exactly what I expect it to me
Apr 10 09:50:03 <rynojvr> be*
Apr 10 09:55:53 <g00s> capella: i keep screwing up though, closing my window and losing all of my tab groups / tabs
Apr 10 09:56:39 <capella> reopen in the menu -> history pulldown ?
Apr 10 09:57:26 <rynojvr> g00s: Chrome?
Apr 10 09:57:56 <g00s> rynojvr: FF
Apr 10 09:58:00 <rynojvr> g00s: if so, ctrl+shift+t, reopens previously closed tab, and if you closed multiple things, it'll open all,
Apr 10 09:58:00 <g00s> capella: its not there
Apr 10 09:58:08 <rynojvr> g00s: D:
Apr 10 09:58:53 <g00s> i keep thinking - i can close the window - the process is running and i'll see my groups - but no ; its a mismatch between my mental model and what FF wants to do ; and i keep losing data because of it
Apr 10 09:59:15 <capella> mmm private browsing? or menu -> tools -> options -> privacy has History = never remember history
Apr 10 09:59:35 <m1hael> hi, i am trying to add some custom contacts to the contact application. so far so good. now i am trying to add a custom data to that entry (my own id for that contact). this also worked (i think). now how do i query by this custom data? i added it like this: http://pastebin.com/LSsSVB9X
Apr 10 10:00:14 <g00s> capella: yeah, i'm going to have to dig through my history for the past few days , crapola
Apr 10 10:00:42 <capella> Show all history should have it organized most recent
Apr 10 10:01:11 <g00s> yeah, but some of the tabs i opened were like a week ago, so i'm going through thousands of entries
Apr 10 10:01:26 <g00s> ah well, i guess i should get the session save plugin
Apr 10 10:02:15 <capella> g00s: using the mobile version?
Apr 10 10:02:21 <g00s> desktop
Apr 10 10:03:59 <g00s> i dont understand why its not in that History -> Recently Closed Windows thing though
Apr 10 10:04:05 <capella> ah ... on our mobile version we removed the main menu Quit option and made people sad ... i hacked up a little add on to put it back :D
Apr 10 10:04:06 <g00s> older ones are
Apr 10 10:04:06 <capella> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/addon/quitnow/
Apr 10 10:04:08 <capella> woohoo ! got like 12,000 users ... im famous
Apr 10 10:04:18 <g00s> \o/
Apr 10 10:04:34 <capella> infamous maybe XD
Apr 10 10:05:11 <g00s> capella: how long does it take, when an author updates an xpi, for it to show up on amo?
Apr 10 10:05:43 <g00s> for example, tree style tab xpi was updated, but amo shows the old one. i guess somebody is auditing it? how long ?
Apr 10 10:06:00 <capella> initially you can get up in a day or so as experimental, couple weeks for review to full status, updates get reviewed faster after that
Apr 10 10:06:32 <capella> but the update shows almost immed as experimental
Apr 10 10:07:19 <g00s> thats weird, yeah, it still shows one from a while ago
Apr 10 10:08:14 <capella> maybe talk off to the side, but s/b almost immed ... yours?
Apr 10 10:08:38 <g00s> s/b ?
Apr 10 10:08:58 <capella> I bumped a new version and it was up in an hour
Apr 10 10:09:04 <g00s> oh no, not mine. tree style tab
Apr 10 10:09:31 <capella> its up as experimental? or its not there and you think it should be?
Apr 10 10:10:14 <capella> unless it was rejected ...
Apr 10 10:14:16 <do0ob> How do i run a loop in a background loop? is it safe to do a while(true) {...}
Apr 10 10:14:29 <Ge0rG> do0ob: generally, no.
Apr 10 10:15:23 <Ge0rG> do0ob: if it is long running, make it a service, and use events / handler for the timing. if you really need a while(true) loop, spawn a thread from the service
Apr 10 10:15:42 <g00s> if you do that, you better have a break , and something that suspends the thread
Apr 10 10:16:07 <g00s> yield / wait
Apr 10 10:20:59 <do0ob> its a background service that will update outdated items in a database
Apr 10 10:21:22 <do0ob> so it will take one at a time, do some processing and update the database
Apr 10 10:21:54 <do0ob> but if i put it in a while(true) {...} how do i stop the service?
Apr 10 10:27:43 <enwary> hi guys
Apr 10 10:28:03 <lapdis> hai
Apr 10 10:28:11 <do0ob> hi
Apr 10 10:28:24 <enwary> I'm building a server for an android based game and was wondering if anyone knew any good reas to help me out
Apr 10 10:28:30 <enwary> reads*\
Apr 10 10:28:48 <enwary> I want to support thousands of users
Apr 10 10:28:55 <enwary> possible tens of thousands
Apr 10 10:33:34 <g00s> go for the big leagues, 10s of zillions !!!
Apr 10 10:34:56 <Number5> Hello guys, I'm starting developing an app for platform android 4.xx and higher. Is this swipe feature already built in on these platforms? Or should I still add the library support v4?
Apr 10 10:38:21 <Abhijit> the eclipse shows another dimensions for phone screen and when the emulator is run with real size screen it shows another screen size. help please
Apr 10 10:38:46 <ChaosColor> hi there
Apr 10 10:40:17 <ChaosColor> is there a channel dedicated to developing for the sony smartextensions api?
Apr 10 10:40:41 <do0ob> i doubt it
Apr 10 10:40:53 <do0ob> maybe a forum if you're lucky
Apr 10 10:57:24 <ChaosColor> hrm, I highly doubt it
Apr 10 11:05:13 <Number5> Another question, do I need to use library support v4 to use the ViewPager on ICS and above? Cause I start getting mismatch error between native ICS Fragment and android.support.v4.app.Fragment.
Apr 10 11:05:28 <do0ob> Does an intentservice have a queue limit?
Apr 10 11:05:50 <do0ob> i need at least 3000
Apr 10 11:06:29 <lapdis> LOL JUST CHECK THE SOURCE CODE BRO!
Apr 10 11:06:34 <Number5> do0ob, what are you trying to do? Cause you might make a design mistake.
Apr 10 11:06:49 <m1hael> hi, i am trying to add some custom contacts to the contact application. so far so good. now i am trying to add a custom data to that entry (my own id for that contact). this also worked (i think). now how do i query by this custom data? i added it like this: http://pastebin.com/LSsSVB9X
Apr 10 11:07:46 <do0ob> Number5: I have a database filled with rows which will need updating, so i want a background service to take a row, do stuff and update that row, so i'm extending an IntentService and passing all the row ids to it to process
Apr 10 11:08:20 <Number5> do0ob, so...?
Apr 10 11:08:34 <do0ob> is that a good way to do it?
Apr 10 11:08:43 <do0ob> can i do it a better way?
Apr 10 11:09:02 <Number5> it's possible
Apr 10 11:10:16 <do0ob> the only other way i could think to do it was to put a while(true){...} in the startService method of a service, but how would it know when to exit
Apr 10 11:11:54 <Number5> do0ob, I think you first study Service component, to get a better picture of what it's doing. Passing an object a list of objects is not something difficult.
Apr 10 11:13:45 <do0ob> Number5: i can do it, but i'm wondering if the queue length is limited
Apr 10 11:13:46 <Number5> C u later guys, gotta break.
Apr 10 11:13:57 <Zharf> Number5, if you use support fragments, you need to use support viewpager
Apr 10 11:14:40 <Number5> Zharf, I mean I use support viewpager, but does exist a native viewpager for ICS?
Apr 10 11:15:17 <Number5> Because I use support viewpager, the lib forces me to use support fragment, which I rather don't want it.
Apr 10 11:15:56 <Number5> do0ob, just try it and you'll see. I mean 3000 integers is not something you have to be afraid of.
Apr 10 11:16:51 <Zharf> Number5, ah, good question
Apr 10 11:17:00 <Zharf> I don't see one in docs...
Apr 10 11:17:50 <Zharf> Number5, http://stackoverflow.com/a/9958041/857853
Apr 10 11:18:04 <do0ob> Number5: great, thanks
Apr 10 11:46:39 <Number5> Zharf, I also read that, but another problem arises if you want to use PreferenceFragment, cause support v4 doesn't provide PreferenceFragment.
Apr 10 12:26:16 <bau> hi all, I need to create an android app which can stream a radio channel, from this link: mms://89.96.234.34:8000 what can I use?
Apr 10 12:28:56 <joar> bau: VLC?
Apr 10 12:30:19 <bau> joar: I need to create an app which can stream that radio channel, not using other programs
Apr 10 12:32:00 <joar> bau: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2097938/is-it-possible-to-use-mms-to-stream-internet-radio-in-android
Apr 10 12:32:06 <joar> google is a bitch
Apr 10 12:35:32 <KungFuHamster> sometimes you just can't figure out the right keywords
Apr 10 12:38:00 <joar> agreed. I used "android development stream mms"
Apr 10 13:02:36 <Drognan> I'm starting to convert a php app, it's been awhile since I've used java.  I'm tring to return an array I get from json in onPostExecute in AsyncTask.  Is that going to work or do I need to do all the array processing and  ui manipulation in the onPostExecute?
Apr 10 13:04:04 <xorgate> you can return a string
Apr 10 13:04:51 <Ge0rG> Drognan: you can return arrays, ArrayLists and others
Apr 10 13:05:14 <Drognan> cool, I'll try some more then
Apr 10 13:07:39 <Drognan> what are the variable types in <> after AsyncTask for?
Apr 10 13:09:11 <Drognan> nevermind
Apr 10 13:13:30 <bau> joar: mediaplayer does not support mms streaming, in fact I can't use that code
Apr 10 13:19:41 <bau> how can I import vitamio plugin (library) in my eclipse project?
Apr 10 13:27:40 <fatpudding> any pointers whats the best approach to send several message between two devices over NFC ?
Apr 10 13:28:31 <kaneda^> bau, go to your classpath, add an external jar, and export this jar with your project (usually)
Apr 10 13:40:04 <monsti> i love android
Apr 10 13:40:12 <monsti> it's the best mobile target ever
Apr 10 13:40:51 <kaneda^> :)
Apr 10 13:46:02 <carbohydrate> If I have a broadcast receiver that is registered in onCreate of my Service and unregistered in onDestroy (it is stored in a member variable in the Service), can I safely store stuff in the broadcast receiver assuming that if the Service is killed than the broadcast receiver will be killed too?
Apr 10 13:46:35 <carbohydrate> I guess my main question is, if Android forcefully terminates my Service so that onDestroy is not called, does my BroadcastReceiver stick around?
Apr 10 13:47:23 <pfn> what kind of broadcastreceiver, manifest or registered
Apr 10 13:47:38 <pfn> and usually, it's considered a receiver leak
Apr 10 13:47:43 <pfn> if the latter
Apr 10 13:48:06 <monsti> it takes me 2-3 days to reconfigure eclipse after i checked out on a new machine
Apr 10 13:48:09 <pfn> oh, if your service is destroyed but ondestroyed is not called, your process has been killed
Apr 10 13:48:10 <carbohydrate> registered in onCreate and unregistered in onDestroy (it is for the battery changed intent, which cannot be done in the manifest)
Apr 10 13:48:35 <pfn> if your process has been killed, all resources are freed
Apr 10 13:48:40 <carbohydrate> pfn: so it would be safe to assume that if that happens, the broadcastreceiver is also toast
Apr 10 13:48:45 <pfn> yes
Apr 10 13:48:49 <carbohydrate> okay that's what i was thinking
Apr 10 13:49:20 <do0ob> every time i try to start my intentservice it crashes my app
Apr 10 13:49:21 <pfn> mmmm, morning espresso so yum
Apr 10 13:49:26 <pfn> do0ob, so fix the crash
Apr 10 13:49:55 <carbohydrate> I'm trying to optimize me app that collects battery stats - I built it assuming that the battery changed intent would only fire when the battery level changed, but either new devices or new Android version or both - it has started firing for temperature/voltage changes so it fires like every 5-30 seconds or so
Apr 10 13:49:56 <do0ob> i have no idea why it crashes, it crashes after the onCreate but before the onHandleIntent, with a nullpointerexception
Apr 10 13:50:14 <pfn> nullpointer exceptions are always obvious
Apr 10 13:50:20 <pfn> fix the null pointer and you're done
Apr 10 13:50:31 <kaneda^> so, i'm not going to do any more android development ;_;
Apr 10 13:50:34 <carbohydrate> So my only recourse is to cache the stats in the broadcast receiver and stop processing as early as possible to minimize the work done
Apr 10 13:50:35 <kaneda^> my new job doesnt require it at all
Apr 10 13:51:04 <pfn> my typical dayjobs have not been in android at all
Apr 10 13:51:12 <pfn> I quit my dayjobs to take android contracts  :-/
Apr 10 13:51:14 <pfn> when I could
Apr 10 13:52:47 <kaneda^> pfn, android has been a small part of my job here, but it allowed me to work in the NDK which is great
Apr 10 13:53:58 <Zharf> kaneda^, no personal projects? :)
Apr 10 13:54:13 <kaneda^> Zharf, i've spent all my personal project time working in python/django and now i'm learning ruby
Apr 10 13:54:26 <kaneda^> i wrote a custom blog cms and some custom auth stuff
Apr 10 13:54:43 <Zharf> I'm spending all my personal project time on xmms2-android and client library for it
Apr 10 13:55:09 <Zharf> it's the reason I only get 3-5h sleep almost every night :p
Apr 10 13:55:23 <kaneda^> yah, if i get less than 6hrs sleep i'm like a zombie and i dont function properly
Apr 10 13:55:23 * do0ob wonders why the intent is null
Apr 10 13:55:40 <Zharf> I need at least 8.5h to function properly
Apr 10 13:55:43 <Zharf> preferrably over 10h
Apr 10 13:56:14 <do0ob> 10h is too long
Apr 10 13:56:21 <Zharf> not for me
Apr 10 13:56:24 <do0ob> if i sleep for 10h i feel hung over
Apr 10 13:56:25 <Zharf> I like to sleep
Apr 10 13:56:40 <do0ob> maybe you're not getting quality sleep
Apr 10 13:56:50 <kaneda^> :D
Apr 10 13:56:54 <kaneda^> i prefer 7-8 ;p
Apr 10 13:57:04 <pfn> I prefer about 7.5-8hrs of sleep these days
Apr 10 13:57:20 <pfn> although most days, I'm getting a 6-7 since I have to get up early for conference calls
Apr 10 13:57:56 <do0ob> this makes no sense
Apr 10 13:58:24 <do0ob> an intent defines the service to start, so how can it be null when it gets to the started service
Apr 10 14:06:54 <do0ob> i feel silly now
Apr 10 14:07:15 <do0ob> getLong wasn't working on the intent, which made it exit because it returned the default value
Apr 10 14:08:05 <carbohydrate> I tried to move my Eclipse project over to IntelliJ and mavenise it - oh boy what a disaster
Apr 10 14:08:25 <do0ob> mavenise?
Apr 10 14:08:50 <carbohydrate> create a pom.xml to use maven
Apr 10 14:09:08 <do0ob> i don't know what maven is
Apr 10 14:09:20 <spobat> what is the contact email to report copyright infringement at google play?
Apr 10 14:09:36 <carbohydrate> it's a build tool with some nice features
Apr 10 14:09:46 <Zaknafein> porn.xml ?
Apr 10 14:09:53 <carbohydrate> if i could get it to work, heh
Apr 10 14:10:03 <do0ob> pom
Apr 10 14:14:56 <do0ob> is there a way to label a variable as unused?
Apr 10 14:15:10 <do0ob> like  doProcessing(int target, int _)
Apr 10 14:15:27 <do0ob> like when you have to override a method to satisfy an interface but clearly won't use the variable
Apr 10 14:15:47 <spobat> no
Apr 10 14:15:49 <osxorgate> you could name it ignored
Apr 10 14:15:49 <do0ob> :(
Apr 10 14:16:09 <do0ob> i just wondered if the language supported it
Apr 10 14:18:36 <kaneda^> in python you can set it's default
Apr 10 14:20:08 <spobat> whom should I contact if my app was completely stolen and reuploaded to the play store?
Apr 10 14:20:34 <kaneda^> spobat, ??? google support i'd imagine
Apr 10 14:20:59 <spobat> kaneda^, right, but *where* or *how*. I can't find a valid email address or contact form.
Apr 10 14:21:26 <kaneda^> spobat, yikes, i'll look for it
Apr 10 14:22:02 <appel1> spobat: did you try to google for something like: google play copyright complaint
Apr 10 14:22:23 <spobat> that actually was the only useful thing i found: ( https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/contact/takedown?rd=1 )
Apr 10 14:23:30 <appel1> spobat: on that page there's the following line: "Follow this link to report an application that is infringing on trademark or copyright."
Apr 10 14:23:38 <appel1> spobat: sounds like what you want
Apr 10 14:24:03 <kaneda^> spobat, http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/static.py?page=ts.cs&ts=2520903
Apr 10 14:25:42 <spobat> kaneda^, i think this link is for end-users only
Apr 10 14:26:04 <kaneda^> spobat, you're right
Apr 10 14:26:26 <kaneda^> spobat, https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/contact/takedown?rd=1
Apr 10 14:26:29 <kaneda^> you could try reporting an app
Apr 10 14:26:35 <kaneda^> but you've already been there ;p
Apr 10 14:33:14 <benlieb> I'm a newb in Java. What does the <string> do here: new ArrayAdapter<String>()
Apr 10 14:33:40 <brx_> benlieb: its a list of type String
Apr 10 14:35:02 <benlieb> brx_: I mean more generally. When you use that while instantiating something, what does it do in Java? Is it casting?
Apr 10 14:35:10 <spobat> okay, thanks for helping me finding the appropriate entry. Form submitted :)
Apr 10 14:35:46 <brx_> looks @ java generics
Apr 10 14:36:21 <brx_> basically means you are saying you want to add only Stringss to the ArrayList
Apr 10 14:37:01 <benlieb> brx_: ok tnx.
Apr 10 14:37:13 <benlieb> Is there no java free node channel?
Apr 10 14:37:22 <brx_> ye
Apr 10 14:37:34 <brx_> try #java or ##java perhaps
Apr 10 14:38:09 <kaneda^> ##java, and i wouldnt
Apr 10 14:38:23 <benlieb> kaneda^: why not?
Apr 10 14:38:27 <brx_> ye, try a beginners book first :P
Apr 10 14:38:33 <kaneda^> the ops and i had a falling out, let's just say that
Apr 10 14:38:56 <benlieb> for some reason that room doesn't appear in my channel search...
Apr 10 14:39:15 <benlieb> tnx for the help folks...
Apr 10 14:39:25 <brx_> kaneda^: thats no reason for someone else not to join the channel :P
Apr 10 14:39:30 <brx_> you was a naughty boy :)
Apr 10 14:39:39 <deadmund> Is it possible to reference memory locations on Android / Dalvik?
Apr 10 14:39:49 <kaneda^> deadmund, using the NDK, i dont see why not
Apr 10 14:39:55 <kaneda^> deadmund, and using things like directalloc
Apr 10 14:40:12 <kaneda^> brx_, and i wasnt a naughty boy, the ops in there are horrible
Apr 10 14:40:22 <kaneda^> i've been banned from ##java for saying "hai"
Apr 10 14:40:41 <brx_> that cant be the only thing u said
Apr 10 14:40:47 <brx_> hai is polite
Apr 10 14:40:49 <kaneda^> brx_, look at the logs
Apr 10 14:40:52 <KungFuHamster> IRC ops can be pretty hamfisted
Apr 10 14:40:57 <kaneda^> KungFuHamster, exactly
Apr 10 14:41:10 <kaneda^> one of them must have been feeling especially powerless that day, that's all
Apr 10 14:41:21 <brx_> #iphone dev is the pettiest most rediculous troll ridden channel on freenode, fact
Apr 10 14:41:50 <deadmund> kaneda^: But Dalvik is register based.  The variables of whatever method are running are assigned to virtual registers.  How is virtual memory handled?  What is the NDK ?
Apr 10 14:41:53 <KungFuHamster> little princes of tiny kingdoms
Apr 10 14:42:05 <brx_> true, i see both of ur points
Apr 10 14:42:18 <kaneda^> deadmund, the NDK allows you to write bionic C/C++ and talk with java through JNI
Apr 10 14:42:25 <kaneda^> deadmund, here you can mess with memory directly
Apr 10 14:42:35 <deadmund> kaneda^: Ahhh, NDK is the native developer kit.  Yeah, of course native C/C++ can reference memory.  What about the Java code?
Apr 10 14:42:39 <kaneda^> KungFuHamster, eloquently stated
Apr 10 14:43:04 <kaneda^> deadmund, again, there are direct memory allocs, which gives you a reference variable that represents the block of memory of a given type that you've just alloced
Apr 10 14:44:25 <deadmund> kaneda^: So, there is an API for this which I assume calls either c/c++ or linux system calls.  Is this correct?
Apr 10 14:44:58 <kaneda^> deadmund, http://stackoverflow.com/a/5671880
Apr 10 14:45:05 <mmoassistdev> anyone know of a work around for the 4k buffer problem? I cant read the inputstream unless this buffer fills. I have gotten a suggestion to use java.nio but not sure how to code a non-blocking socket channel.
Apr 10 14:45:40 <deadmund> thanks
Apr 10 14:50:36 <mmoassistdev> is this what I have been missing ? channel.configureBlocking(false);
Apr 10 14:53:43 <joar> [6~
Apr 10 14:59:25 <wordToDaBird> has anyone tried using html5 geolocation on the samsung galaxy note or htc flyer and had issues?
Apr 10 14:59:55 <wordToDaBird> code works on nexus 7, htc evo and samsung galaxy 3 III but completely fails on those two devices.
Apr 10 15:03:34 <mmoassistdev> any java.nio experts in here?
Apr 10 15:03:54 <kaneda^> mmoassistdev, i'm barely a NIO user, sorry
Apr 10 15:10:41 <Zaknafein> looks like androidhive.info died :(
Apr 10 15:14:51 <mmoassistdev> I dont want to have to ghetto rig my app. =(
Apr 10 15:17:35 <Zaknafein> murica
Apr 10 15:23:01 <spanglesontoast> anyone know of the best practices to using http client with json?
Apr 10 15:23:43 <mmoassistdev> anyone know how i would implement a non blocking channel to read output of "getevent" using java.nio?
Apr 10 15:23:48 <blue_pearl> hello, i am getting this error while i turn to run KindleFire 2nd Gen Emulator ,other emulators are working fine . emulator: ERROR: This AVD's configuration is missing a kernel file!!
Apr 10 15:24:22 <kevin_schultz> spanglesontoast, i use this library: http://loopj.com/android-async-http/
Apr 10 15:25:08 <kevin_schultz> makes it pretty straightforward, use the JSON response handler, make a JSONObject or JSONArray, map your stuff by hand
Apr 10 15:25:14 <kevin_schultz> for simple stuff it is easy enough
Apr 10 15:25:57 <TheTrash> I'd map the resulting stream or string to objects using Jackson, but that lib might ease the http part anyhow.
Apr 10 15:26:39 <kevin_schultz> yea, i'm considering switching from that to Spring + Jackson, but haven't done it yet. I'd start with that library though. Well tested, widely used.
Apr 10 15:28:18 <spanglesontoast> yeah what I'm really looking for is a tutorial that covers doing both post and get and even creating pictures from urls aswell if that makes sense
Apr 10 15:30:10 <TheTrash> spanglesontoast: that lib has an easy wrapper for binary data (i.e. images) and examples for get and post... though it's a fairly thin wrapper around httpclient.. in "raw" httpclient you'd get a stream and convert it to a bytearray for binary, string for text data, etc.
Apr 10 15:30:28 <TheTrash> If you want to learn the real thing, try some httpclient tutorials. If you want an easy wrapper, that lib seems decent.
Apr 10 15:31:16 <TheTrash> But for the json part, I'd use that lib to get a stream or string and use Jackson from there on, the json.org thing they support is quite tedious to work with.
Apr 10 15:34:16 <kevin_schultz> spanglesontoast, this is uploading an image with that library: https://gist.github.com/krschultz/5355679
Apr 10 15:34:35 <mmoassistdev> anyone know how i would implement a non blocking channel to read output of "getevent" using java.nio?
Apr 10 15:37:27 <spanglesontoast> kevin_schultz: thanks that will be helpful in due course
Apr 10 15:37:53 <wordToDaBird> has anyone tried to ship an app with a version of webkit.  But, what I mean is a version different from the phones version.  I have an app that I wrote for a company, the app uses geolocation, but in some devices the geolocation isn't working.  I suspect it is the webkit version that is causing the problem.  So, I want to package a version of webkit and send it with my app.
Apr 10 15:41:23 <spanglesontoast> TheTrash: yeah I will hunt for some was just hoping someone happened to have some to hand :S
Apr 10 15:42:46 <blue_pearl> emulator: ERROR: This AVD's configuration is missing a kernel file!! while trying to run Kindle Fire 2 emulator. Other emulator works fine..what seems to be the problem?
Apr 10 15:45:12 <mmoassistdev> ok i cant get any help here.can anyone please suggest another place were i could get help?
Apr 10 15:47:12 <mmoassistdev> i need an expert on non-blocking read() from an inputstream.
Apr 10 15:47:12 <csaunders> wordToDaBird: Are you using phoneGap?
Apr 10 15:47:42 <wordToDaBird> csaunders: no
Apr 10 15:47:53 <wordToDaBird> and trying everything I can to avoid having to
Apr 10 15:48:01 <csaunders> wordToDaBird: So it's just a webview in the app?
Apr 10 15:48:14 <wordToDaBird> csaunders: /nod
Apr 10 15:48:26 <csaunders> Couldn't you include one of those JS libraries (modernizr I think) to check to see if the geolocation feature is there?
Apr 10 15:48:39 <csaunders> you might need to provide a Javascript to Native Bridge
Apr 10 15:48:55 <csaunders> so you can piggy back off that one if the Webview doesn't support the GeoLocation stuff :/
Apr 10 15:49:23 <csaunders> Or… you could just always use it :P
Apr 10 15:50:01 <csaunders> mmoassistdev: do it in a separate thread?
Apr 10 15:50:05 <wordToDaBird> but, I need to get away from the default webkit version.  On some phones it isn't working to do the geolocation.  Which has become a rather large problem for the client.
Apr 10 15:50:15 <wordToDaBird> I am looking into modernizr right now
Apr 10 15:50:22 <csaunders> wordToDaBird: I think you are sol fine sir
Apr 10 15:51:03 <csaunders> I haven't done anything with webviews in a while, but I did bind a Java object to the webview. And you could call it from within JS
Apr 10 15:51:44 <wordToDaBird> I kind of figured I was, I have spent a week on this already.  But, I need a solution.  Client needs the location services to work, it is paramount.  The part that is annoying is this is such a small part of the app.
Apr 10 15:51:56 <wordToDaBird> But, they require that it work for "all" devices.
Apr 10 15:52:05 <csaunders> wordToDaBird: lawl, that blows.
Apr 10 15:52:29 <csaunders> do the devices have geolocation available at all (i.e. actually on the device)
Apr 10 15:53:06 <dragorn> and has the user enabled geolocation (ie is this a test device or a real-world report)
Apr 10 15:53:16 <csaunders> wordToDaBird: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5923282/binding-javascript-code-to-android-code
Apr 10 15:53:17 <wordToDaBird> fuck if I know, QA is in India so it's like pulling teeth to get an answer from them about anything.  I asked 3 days ago to get me webkit version numbers and they still haven't said jack
Apr 10 15:53:35 <csaunders> wordToDaBir: http://labs.mwrinfosecurity.com/blog/2012/04/30/building-android-javajavascript-bridges/
Apr 10 15:53:37 <dragorn> hell did the device just not have a gps signal. :P
Apr 10 15:53:40 <dragorn> testing, testing, testing :P
Apr 10 15:54:07 <wordToDaBird> hard to test when you don't have the device, the devices I do have it works which is why this is even more annoying.
Apr 10 15:54:12 <csaunders> wordToDaBird: I think you just need to assume that for whatever version of webkit the device has you won't be able to get access to the geolocation services from within the webview
Apr 10 15:54:54 <wordToDaBird> but then I have to bridge back to the server for the webview's session.  Do-able but a line of thought/work that does not exist.
Apr 10 15:55:59 <xviv> Guys, I'm about to make custom adapter by extending CursorAdapter. But, the documentation said it is deprecated. And now I can't get how cursorAdapter works :|
Apr 10 15:56:14 <csaunders> wordToDaBird: what do you mean? You could just make the binding a sort of service that returns geolocation data
Apr 10 15:56:35 <mmoassistdev> can anyone please suggest another place were i could get help because noone here can help me. I need an expert dealing with inputstreams/outputstreams.
Apr 10 15:56:40 <csaunders> so in JS it just looks like you are calling some functions
Apr 10 15:56:40 <Drognan> Can anyone help with my error here?  http://pastebin.com/3CqSxTAb  Just trying to return the json string
Apr 10 15:57:14 <csaunders> mmoassistdev: your question isn't the most helpful.  What do you mean you need help dealing with streams?
Apr 10 15:57:30 <csaunders> mmoassistdev: If you are reading from a file/URI it's going to block
Apr 10 15:57:47 <canadiancow> onPostExecute() shouldn't return anything Drognan
Apr 10 15:57:56 <csaunders> mmoassistdev: Do it on a separate thread or something
Apr 10 15:57:56 <canadiancow> it's void onPostExecute()
Apr 10 15:57:58 <mmoassistdev> im trying to get the output of "getevent" but every method i use blocks and i have to ill the buffer first.
Apr 10 15:58:16 <Drognan> How should i go about getting the json string to the json function?
Apr 10 15:58:40 <blue_pearl> emulator: ERROR: This AVD's configuration is missing a kernel file!! Getting this error while trying to run Kindle Fire 2 emulator�.any help pls�other emulators works fine.
Apr 10 15:59:13 <mmoassistdev> im doing the read/write in the same thread but is seprate from the ui thread is this a problem?
Apr 10 15:59:50 <wordToDaBird> Drognan: you say you want to return 3 strings, not any number of strings
Apr 10 16:00:13 <mmoassistdev> im using extends AsyncTask so I assume im doing all of this in another thread
Apr 10 16:01:03 <xviv> Guys, I'm about to make custom adapter by extending CursorAdapter. But, the documentation said it is deprecated. And now I can't get how cursorAdapter works :|
Apr 10 16:01:39 <xviv> can anoyne please tell me what should I use for replacing cursorAdapter?
Apr 10 16:02:23 <kevin_schultz> xviv, cursoradapter is not deprecated
Apr 10 16:02:25 <kevin_schultz> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/CursorAdapter.html
Apr 10 16:02:28 <kevin_schultz> one constructor is
Apr 10 16:02:58 <kevin_schultz> i generally use CursorAdapter(context, cursor, CursorAdapter.FLAG_REGISTER_CONTENT_OBSERVER)
Apr 10 16:03:21 <kevin_schultz> but they definitely are not deprecating cursoradapter
Apr 10 16:03:30 <xviv> wait, can you repeat your answer please? because my bad internet connection :|
Apr 10 16:04:38 <mmoassistdev> has anyone else goten stuck on something for more than 3 months and loose thier mind trying to figure it out. I dont wana feel alone lol
Apr 10 16:05:28 <pfn> generally no
Apr 10 16:05:50 <pfn> if you got stuck on something for 3 months, it's time to quit
Apr 10 16:05:56 <kevin_schultz> xviv, cursor adapter is not depreaced
Apr 10 16:06:10 <pfn> unless you're some researcher that is trying some experiments
Apr 10 16:06:11 <kevin_schultz> only one constructor and the AUTO_REQUERY flag
Apr 10 16:06:22 <xviv> in the other word, I still could extending cursorAdapter with 3 variable
Apr 10 16:06:32 * xviv is strugling with bad internet connection
Apr 10 16:06:38 <mmoassistdev> lol atleast you have given me somewere to start but i dont understand how i use a socket in my own app
Apr 10 16:06:47 <pfn> oh dear
Apr 10 16:06:48 <pfn> :p
Apr 10 16:06:49 <mmoassistdev> the socket is not connection to a web serve
Apr 10 16:06:51 <kevin_schultz> xviv just look at this I said it a couple times: https://gist.github.com/krschultz/5355996
Apr 10 16:07:33 <xviv> kevin_schultz, sorry, i don't see it at the first time. Off to check it. Thank you!
Apr 10 16:09:56 <speakingcode-wor> just a quick question before i waste time going down the wrong path. UI designer gave me a design where the ActionBar tabs are used as selectors, such that multiple can be selected at a time, instead of using them as true tabs... like a series of toggle switches... is that possible or will the tabs not allow more than one to be selected/"lit" at a time? JakeWharton you are the resident actionbar expert....
Apr 10 16:10:06 <mmoassistdev> all the examples i read show the socket connecting to a server. I just want to read from a stream within my app that is not blocking. IT does not seem like to much to ask for.
Apr 10 16:11:01 <speakingcode-wor> mmoassistdev: reading from a stream is blocking unless you do it asynchronously
Apr 10 16:11:13 <kevin_schultz> speakingcode-wor, i would push back on that one. afaik you can only select one at a time, and even if you make it work, android users are going to hate that
Apr 10 16:11:37 <NucWin> ive set a background for preferenceactivity that is not compatable with dark text / checkbox's or dividers. does anyone know how to change the colours of the dividers/checkbox's ive managed to find the font override?
Apr 10 16:11:53 <mmoassistdev> here is my hehader for the thread that reads the stream.     static class LongRunningIO extends AsyncTask
Apr 10 16:12:05 <xviv> [OFF TOPIC] Am I the only one who disconnected for several times because I think my internet is just fine http://i.imgbox.com/acdEOA4F.jpg
Apr 10 16:12:10 <mmoassistdev> so wouldnt ti be doing it asynchronously?
Apr 10 16:13:01 <speakingcode-wor> kevin_schultz: yeah, that was my thinking. any suggestions on an alternative? I'm _not_ a UI wizard. Need a series of toggles, and the number of options will grow over time
Apr 10 16:13:33 <mmoassistdev> i have everything implemented right to read from the stream. asynchronously
Apr 10 16:13:39 <speakingcode-wor> mmoassistdev: yeah if you're implementing and using your AsyncTask correctly it will be async
Apr 10 16:14:21 <misterli> does anyone know (i cannot figured it out!) if there's anyway to check if a subscription is still valid for a user if i have purchase and subscriptionid?
Apr 10 16:14:28 <speakingcode-wor> xviv: happens sometimes for one reason or another
Apr 10 16:14:29 <kevin_schultz> speakingcode-wor, not sure
Apr 10 16:14:30 <mmoassistdev> im trying to read the output of "getevent" but i only get output if the buffer fills
Apr 10 16:15:32 <xviv> kevin_schultz, So I should use CursorAdapter(Context context, Cursor c, int flags) ?
Apr 10 16:15:39 <mmoassistdev> witch means i only get output when 4k bytes at a time it blocks if this 4k is not filled
Apr 10 16:17:36 <mmoassistdev> does everyone atleast see the problem im having and understand it?
Apr 10 16:18:02 <kevin_schultz> xviv yes
Apr 10 16:19:53 <mmoassistdev> "getevent"s stream never ends so how can I force it to end so that it returns -1
Apr 10 16:19:54 <xviv> kevin_schultz, So I should use CursorAdapter(Context context, Cursor c, int flags) ?
Apr 10 16:20:17 <girishr> is it possible to add a (socket) handle to android's event loop?
Apr 10 16:20:23 * xviv flip his table because his bad internet connection.
Apr 10 16:20:52 <kevin_schultz> xviv, yes exactly
Apr 10 16:21:41 <girishr> boy is this nio stuff overengineered :/
Apr 10 16:22:06 <mmoassistdev> for example if i do-   getevent | grep eventx -c 10   it will output the first 10 lines without blocking. but since getevent by itself does control how many lines to read it will just keep outputting forever
Apr 10 16:22:18 <xviv> kevin_schultz, Thank you zillion! I will try to google some usage example.
Apr 10 16:22:52 <kevin_schultz> xviv, no problem
Apr 10 16:23:25 <kevin_schultz> really all you have to do is override newView and bindView
Apr 10 16:23:29 <mmoassistdev> girishr you are telling me i been stuck on nio forever
Apr 10 16:23:45 <kevin_schultz> newView inflates the layout, bindView sets the values from the cursor
Apr 10 16:25:49 <speakingcode-wor> what is the suggested pattern for navigating to different activities
Apr 10 16:25:59 <evanc> startActivity(..)
Apr 10 16:26:12 <speakingcode-wor> evanc: no i mean UI pattern
Apr 10 16:26:19 <NucWin> keys and keystores: im i understanding right that i need all apps with one keystore but different keys for each app.
Apr 10 16:26:43 <speakingcode-wor> like, a main menu activity is not the preffered pattern, but what is? i don't like the swipe-out-from-the-side navigation menus
Apr 10 16:27:04 <girishr> mmoassistdev: do you know if i can actually use nio selector with android's event loop ? ie i want to use the selector in the main thread and have some callback called when a socket has some activity ?
Apr 10 16:27:30 <girishr> i don't want to create a separate thread for the selector
Apr 10 16:27:47 <JakeWharton> speakingcode-wor: there a giant design section on d.android.com
Apr 10 16:28:30 <speakingcode-wor> JakeWharton: yeah but it's hugely vague, doesn't suggest anyhting for 'main navigation'
Apr 10 16:28:51 <mmoassistdev> im the last person you want to ask a nio question. That is why i am here to get my own nio answer. But im sure you will have to create a separate thread for the selector
Apr 10 16:29:03 <JakeWharton> http://developer.android.com/design/patterns/app-structure.html
Apr 10 16:29:59 <JakeWharton> you should also watch all of the 'Design in Action' YouTube videos
Apr 10 16:30:32 <blue_pearl> getting kernel file missing while i try to run the emulator
Apr 10 16:30:52 <csaunders> mmoassistdev: So wait, you are reading from a stream that is constantly spewing data?
Apr 10 16:30:58 <csaunders> mmoassistdev: and you want to stop at some point?
Apr 10 16:31:31 <mmoassistdev> yep
Apr 10 16:31:41 <csaunders> what are the conditions to stop reading?
Apr 10 16:32:03 <girishr> mmoassistdev: looks like :( this is crazy. all i have to do in normal world is create a socket handle and put it in ui thread's eventloop. instead i have to create a thread for nio selector, then synchronize messages between the ui thread and selector thread.. thank you meaningless abstractions
Apr 10 16:32:03 <mmoassistdev> i detect when user lifts finger off screen
Apr 10 16:32:23 <csaunders> you should probably just read the data and quit when you are happy with what you have.
Apr 10 16:32:25 <speakingcode-wor> meh i've read all this. it still doesn't answer the question. i have X many feature screens. what's the best way to allow a user to go from any of those to anotehr? having a main menu screen requires the user to go back to it to go from a to b. other pattern is the slide-out menu such as in facebook app, which i find detestable
Apr 10 16:32:31 <csaunders> then when that even happens send it via a handler or something
Apr 10 16:33:21 <speakingcode-wor> every app isn't based on consuming heirarchical data and i find it annoying that these 'guides' seem to go on that assumption
Apr 10 16:33:23 <csaunders> handle it in your class, though I think your async class will die
Apr 10 16:33:24 <mmoassistdev> yea but like i said i need to fill the 4k buffer to get output. so say i tap the screen getevents output does not fill this 4k buffer cuz it was just a tap on the screen
Apr 10 16:33:46 <csaunders> then say you need more data...
Apr 10 16:33:59 <csaunders> or just use that tap data and secure random to generate your own 4K bytes work of data
Apr 10 16:34:29 <csaunders> worth*
Apr 10 16:35:01 <misterli> does anyone know (i cannot figured it out!) if there's anyway to check if a subscription is still valid for a user if i have purchase and subscriptionid?
Apr 10 16:35:07 <speakingcode-wor> so if i don't want my user to have to traverse back to a 'main' or top level screen to get from one feature to another, is ther a preffered pattern, besides the slide-out menu
Apr 10 16:35:10 <JakeWharton> speakingcode-wor: you're telling us almost nothing and expecting a specific answer
Apr 10 16:35:26 <JakeWharton> there is no magic pill or recipe
Apr 10 16:35:40 <JakeWharton> download the top 1000 apps, try them out, figure out what you like, and apply it to your app
Apr 10 16:35:58 <speakingcode-wor> i'm not asking for a magic pill, i'm asking if there is a preferred pattern
Apr 10 16:35:59 <Leeds> discarding any which have a back button in the top-left of the screen
Apr 10 16:36:19 <JakeWharton> speakingcode-wor: preferred pattern for what? you are telling us nothing about your app
Apr 10 16:36:36 <mmoassistdev> csaunders Is there a way to fill the inputstream with fake data that way it will fill the buffer and i can just read what i need
Apr 10 16:36:40 <JakeWharton> there's lists, tabs, dashboard pattern, slide-in menus, etc.
Apr 10 16:36:53 <speakingcode-wor> ... to navigate from one feature activity to another, where they are not siblings consuming heirarachical data
Apr 10 16:36:56 <JakeWharton> all have specific and very different use-cases
Apr 10 16:37:14 <csaunders> mmoassistdev: Not that I know of… I believe inputstreams are read only
Apr 10 16:37:24 <JakeWharton> speakingcode-wor: have a button, when it's clicked start a new activity
Apr 10 16:37:31 <speakingcode-wor> exactly. so is there an element for 'high level navigation' as its intended use case, such as slide-ins, but not slide-ins, because i hate them
Apr 10 16:37:38 <JakeWharton> that's all i can tell you with the information you are telling me
Apr 10 16:38:03 <csaunders> speakingcode-wor: tab bars? *shudder*
Apr 10 16:39:16 <speakingcode-wor> i'll make an analogy JakeWharton... the d.android.com website has three links at the top for Design, Develop, and Distribute.. no matter where I am in the site i can always easily jump to another section via those links. I want the equivalent of that ,but in a tasteful way for a phone app
Apr 10 16:40:04 <csaunders> mmoassistdev: so you are reading from a buffer.  Before or after (dunno that's a decision for you to make) you read more data check to see if the end tap event has happened
Apr 10 16:40:12 <csaunders> if it has you know that you are done reading your buffer.
Apr 10 16:40:14 <mmoassistdev> here is the only solution i have so far so tell me what you think. User wants to record just a tap on the screen. so they tap screen. then my app will detect finger lifting off screen and the promt user to tap screen till buffer fill and the read() does not block.
Apr 10 16:40:57 <speakingcode-wor> if there is not a prefered pattern for that, so be it, i'll accept that answer... just curious if there is one
Apr 10 16:41:02 <csaunders> then dunno… have a function like ensures_enough_buffer(current_buffer) that will always spew out the 4K buffer
Apr 10 16:41:29 <csaunders> I thought that if you pass in a buffer to inputstream.read it will fill the buffer to the best of it's ability and return with the number of bytes read
Apr 10 16:42:16 <Leeds> csaunders: I think the problem is that it will fill to full or EOF - but it'll block if the input blocks
Apr 10 16:42:19 <JakeWharton> speakingcode-wor: apps don't tend to have something that equates to headers for instant high-level context switching. hence the reason the slide-in menu became so popular. something like a persistent header would make a lot more sense on a tablet UI but for phones when you click on something inside of a section the entire view usually pushes in requring a back/up to return
Apr 10 16:42:40 <mmoassistdev> in my case i dont get output unless 4k data is in the inputstream
Apr 10 16:42:47 <JakeWharton> you could use something like a collapsed action bar with three tabs where re-selecting a tab takes you to the "top" of that section and a different tab context switches
Apr 10 16:43:07 <Leeds> the real answer, I would say, is not to use buffered data if you don't want to deal with buffers...
Apr 10 16:43:24 <csaunders> Leeds: haha, that would work too
Apr 10 16:43:28 <mmoassistdev> i must to complete my app
Apr 10 16:43:37 <Leeds> why must you?
Apr 10 16:43:42 <csaunders> Leeds: So just byte omnom = inputstream.read()
Apr 10 16:43:46 <csaunders> ?
Apr 10 16:43:51 <Leeds> csaunders: yup, something like that
Apr 10 16:43:58 <mmoassistdev> lol i have not tried that
Apr 10 16:44:06 <mmoassistdev> i have only tried with a buffer
Apr 10 16:44:27 <Leeds> so you've spent hours fighting with buffers and didn't consider... not using a buffer
Apr 10 16:44:31 <csaunders> I don't know how slow that is though… might be fine for something like that, but when I was using it for files it was rather slow
Apr 10 16:44:33 <Leeds> of course there are other implications
Apr 10 16:44:34 <csaunders> haha
Apr 10 16:44:56 <Leeds> also, my fingers keep wanting to type buggers :)
Apr 10 16:45:10 <csaunders> mmoassistdev: Or couldn't you just decrease your buffer size and append all this data to a buffer you keep internally?
Apr 10 16:45:29 <csaunders> mmoassistdev: that is to say, do you have something like byte[] someBuffer = new byte[0x4000]?
Apr 10 16:45:43 <mmoassistdev> at this point i dont care about speed i just want to get all data that is in the inputstream at the time of read(). I dont care if there is more data after that
Apr 10 16:45:43 <csaunders> or whatever it is?
Apr 10 16:45:58 <speakingcode-wor> JakeWharton: thanks. thats the kindo f response i was looking for. the slide-in pattenr makes the most sense but i don't like it beucase 1.) there is usually no way to know it's there unless the user curiously tries and 2. this particular app is based on lots of map visuals and slide-ins plus touch-aware map sounds like a nightmare
Apr 10 16:46:01 <Ologn> My daily installs are tapering off...
Apr 10 16:46:17 <jonp> does anybody know offhand which Android version added support for `adb shell am force-stop`?
Apr 10 16:46:24 <mmoassistdev> when it works yest im using a byte array and converting it to string
Apr 10 16:46:27 <Ologn> ...I wonder if it is because people are waiting to buy the Galaxy S4 or HTC like I am
Apr 10 16:46:42 <csaunders> mmoassistdev: try working with a smaller byte array?
Apr 10 16:46:45 <Ologn> ...daily installs slowed in December for me then exploded after Christmas
Apr 10 16:46:53 <csaunders> mmoassistdev: can you just gist the code that does this?
Apr 10 16:47:29 <kaneda^> jonp, i think honeycomb
Apr 10 16:47:35 <JakeWharton> speakingcode-wor: i hate the pattern too, but sometimes I can see its use. It definitely has its problems (but so do list, tabs, etc.). It's really finding a balance for what works with your app. You are also free to go totally off the rails and try something new but it might not feel natural on Android
Apr 10 16:47:42 <jonp> kaneda^: thanks
Apr 10 16:48:44 <speakingcode-wor> JakeWharton: I may try to just have a dropdown on the action bar, via na action provider
Apr 10 16:48:56 <mmoassistdev> regardless of the size of byte array i use i still need to fill the full 4k internal buffer before i can get output end of story
Apr 10 16:50:22 <csaunders> mmoassistdev: why does it need to be 4K? What I'm understanding is that the users are touching long enough or something.
Apr 10 16:50:38 <csaunders> Why not just show a progress bar and be like "keep tapping the screen squire"
Apr 10 16:50:51 <Leeds> csaunders: it needs to be 4k because mmoassistdev is loading the data into a buffered input stream with a default 4k buffer
Apr 10 16:51:14 <mmoassistdev> see i think leeds understands
Apr 10 16:51:31 <csaunders> I was understanding the buffer as a raw byte array
Apr 10 16:51:40 <csaunders> So you are using a BufferedInputStream?
Apr 10 16:52:15 <mmoassistdev> no im using datainputstream but bufferedinputstream works the same
Apr 10 16:53:18 <mmoassistdev> then i use stringbuilder to convert to text
Apr 10 16:53:33 <mmoassistdev> that works but i must fill this 4k buffer before i get the output
Apr 10 16:53:45 <mmoassistdev> and that is my problem
Apr 10 16:54:39 <speakingcode-wor> as a seperate item, I need a "list" of checkboxes/toggles of some sort to activate/deactiviate different layers on a map view... JakeWharton would an actionprovider be an appropriate mechanism to hold such a list? or do you think an options menu with showAsAction would be better? thnx again
Apr 10 16:55:11 <Leeds> mmoassistdev: you construct a DataInputStream from an InputStream...
Apr 10 16:55:15 <JakeWharton> you can probably just use a submenu with checkable items and a normal action item
Apr 10 16:55:26 <Leeds> or presumably in your case, from a BuggeredInputStream
Apr 10 16:55:30 <girishr> is there no ByteArray in java? in which i can do indexOf and such ?
Apr 10 16:55:37 <speakingcode-wor> oh, that sounds straightforward. let me look that up, thanks
Apr 10 16:56:54 <csaunders> mmoassistdev: if you can get away from whatever it is that is requiring the buffer
Apr 10 16:57:07 <csaunders> i.e. if oyu are using a buffered input stream, stop.
Apr 10 16:58:16 <csaunders> just use an InputStream and interact with it directly if you can… then you have full control over the data
Apr 10 16:59:08 <mmoassistdev> ok i gota run I thank you all for you trouble shooting help.
Apr 10 16:59:08 <speakingcode-wor> JakeWharton: is it possible to define custom layouts for the submenu items, so to add a checkbox or something to indicate on/off, for instance? i'm only familair with being able to set <item> elements with icon, name,
Apr 10 16:59:19 <csaunders> mmoassistdev: If you are back, show source code
Apr 10 16:59:38 <JakeWharton> speakingcode-wor: no, but items can be checkable
Apr 10 16:59:39 <JakeWharton> 1s
Apr 10 16:59:46 <mmoassistdev> ok if i see you when i get back ill show source code k
Apr 10 16:59:51 <mmoassistdev> i gota run see yas
Apr 10 16:59:54 <csaunders> mmoassistdev: kthx
Apr 10 16:59:55 <mmoassistdev> and thank
Apr 10 17:01:15 <csaunders> Leeds: Is that an aspect of BufferedInputStreams? That they block until the buffer has been filled?
Apr 10 17:01:43 <csaunders> Looking through the source now...
Apr 10 17:02:04 <Leeds> I dunno :)
Apr 10 17:02:06 <csaunders> Tbh, I've rarely used BufferedInputStreams… I just use the raw stream :/
Apr 10 17:03:45 <girishr> mm, i have to put my own morris-pratt indexOf algo to search in a byte []. this seems so wrong
Apr 10 17:04:18 <JakeWharton> speakingcode-wor: https://github.com/JakeWharton/ActionBarSherlock/blob/master/samples/styled/res/menu/main_menu.xml#L42-54
Apr 10 17:04:25 <JakeWharton> except don't use "single" as the checkable mode
Apr 10 17:04:38 <csaunders> Leeds: ¯\(°_o)/¯
Apr 10 17:05:08 <JakeWharton> speakingcode-wor: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/menus.html#checkable
Apr 10 17:06:05 <do0ob> What do you call those things that pop up when you first run an app and act as a user guide?
Apr 10 17:06:13 <do0ob> is there a ready made library for that?
Apr 10 17:06:15 <csaunders> girishr: what about Collections?
Apr 10 17:06:31 <csaunders> girishr: They have some search stuff in there… though I don't know if that's what you are looking for or not
Apr 10 17:06:42 <do0ob> the alternative would be a sliding layout i would have to manually design
Apr 10 17:06:58 <girishr> csaunders: i just want to search inside a byte [].
Apr 10 17:07:04 <JakeWharton> do0ob: uh, ViewPager?
Apr 10 17:07:13 <girishr> csaunders: i get bytes from InputStream. now how do i search inside it?
Apr 10 17:07:33 <girishr> this seems like java 101 questions :/
Apr 10 17:07:49 <JakeWharton> you can't search a stream
Apr 10 17:07:57 <JakeWharton> you can collect a stream's data and search that
Apr 10 17:08:17 <csaunders> Use guava? http://docs.guava-libraries.googlecode.com/git/javadoc/com/google/common/primitives/Bytes.html
Apr 10 17:08:34 <do0ob> JakeWharton: i'm talking about the activity overlay like thing which tells what is what
Apr 10 17:08:39 <csaunders> at least for searching the resulting byte array
Apr 10 17:08:42 <girishr> sure, i cannot search a stream. but i want to:
Apr 10 17:08:51 <girishr> stream.read(bytes, 0, 100);
Apr 10 17:09:04 <girishr> now i want to bytes.indexOf('foo')
Apr 10 17:09:12 <JakeWharton> do0ob: dialog with translucent background
Apr 10 17:09:42 <csaunders> String.new(bytes).indexOf("foo")
Apr 10 17:09:51 <csaunders> or whatever
Apr 10 17:10:02 <csaunders> dunno… I'm all thrown off from writing all this ruby these days
Apr 10 17:10:05 <girishr> csaunders: that link looks like exactly what i want. but i wonder why this is not part of coe java ?
Apr 10 17:10:12 <JakeWharton> new String(bytes, "UTF-8").indexOf("foo")
Apr 10 17:10:16 <girishr> converting to string is a performance hit
Apr 10 17:10:19 <csaunders> (new String(bytes)).indexOf("foo")
Apr 10 17:10:20 <do0ob> JakeWharton: oh, i guess i have to do it all myself
Apr 10 17:10:29 <girishr> searching bytes is not the same as searching a string
Apr 10 17:10:50 <do0ob> i was hoping for a library with stuff like the circles, lines and arrows built in
Apr 10 17:11:13 <csaunders> girishr: Dunno… but it'll only help you find the index of a single byte
Apr 10 17:11:24 <csaunders> oh wait… disregard that… there's one for an array
Apr 10 17:11:53 <girishr> csaunders: right :) indexOf(byte[] array, byte[] target)
Apr 10 17:11:59 <csaunders> girishr: If you really don't want to write it yourself just include the guava library
Apr 10 17:12:20 <csaunders> you can probably use proguard or whatever to strip all the crap out you don't use to keep your binary small
Apr 10 17:12:40 <girishr> csaunders: http://www.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/fmi/logic/vboutchkova/sources/KMPMatch_java.html works
Apr 10 17:12:52 <JakeWharton> including guava so you don't have to write a nested for loop...
Apr 10 17:12:55 * JakeWharton shudders
Apr 10 17:13:10 <girishr> but isn't this required for most networking code? it's kinda bizzare it's not part of standard libs
Apr 10 17:13:35 <csaunders> JakeWharton: well he was saying he was going to introduce some algorithm :/
Apr 10 17:13:43 <girishr> like you get some bytes from a socket, you want to check starts with a "header: " (like in http)
Apr 10 17:13:57 <girishr> or indexOf('\r\n\r\n')
Apr 10 17:14:00 <csaunders> I'd just be all naive and just iterate through the array looking for crap
Apr 10 17:14:17 <JakeWharton> girishr: you'd put it into a String first if you were doing anything like that
Apr 10 17:14:41 <JakeWharton> why are you working at such a low-level for HTTP instead of with an abstraction?
Apr 10 17:15:11 <mastro> do anyone know ways to create and release shared libraries project in the market?
Apr 10 17:16:30 <girishr> http was an example, i was writing some custom networking code. i think i will just write it in c and use jni
Apr 10 17:16:56 <csaunders> o_O
Apr 10 17:18:15 <csaunders> girishr: that sounds a bit excessive
Apr 10 17:18:53 <girishr> csaunders: indeed :)
Apr 10 17:19:57 <csaunders> so strings are too slow… why don't you just make some kind of stream parser or something that reads the data as it's coming in and populates objects
Apr 10 17:21:34 <girishr> csaunders: all scanners i found seem to work on strings
Apr 10 17:22:30 <csaunders> then build your own scanner that works with the raw bytes.
Apr 10 17:22:40 <csaunders> I'd just use strings… but I'm lazy
Apr 10 17:26:20 <xviv> Guys, if I want to set OnItemClickListener within row in my listView. Should I do it in my ListActivity or Adapter class?
Apr 10 17:28:19 <xviv> Guys, if I want to set OnItemClickListener within row in my listView. Should I do it in my ListActivity or Adapter class?
Apr 10 17:30:36 <xviv> Guys, if I want to set OnItemClickListener within row in my listView. Should I do it in my ListActivity or Adapter class?
Apr 10 17:31:02 * csaunders hears an echo?
Apr 10 17:31:25 <SimonVT> Less spam
Apr 10 17:32:19 <csaunders> xviv appears to be having a hard time with his connection or something :P
Apr 10 17:32:39 <ninharp> hrhr
Apr 10 17:32:56 <xviv> Am I the only one who couldn't join this channel without dc every five seconds or six?
Apr 10 17:33:12 <ninharp> yep
Apr 10 17:33:14 <ninharp> :P
Apr 10 17:33:24 <xviv> >.<
Apr 10 17:38:12 <wiel> my asynctask is failing silently, what can i do to find the problem? i try to post to a server in the background. http://pastebin.com/VVtXcfPa
Apr 10 17:43:49 <dragorn> wiel: Log.d and figure out where it's dropping dead
Apr 10 17:44:22 <mmoassistdev> csaunders were should i upload the source for you to take a look?
Apr 10 17:44:42 <mmoassistdev> ill post my async task
Apr 10 17:47:11 <wiel> dragorn, log.d the result string?
Apr 10 17:47:35 <MroiZo> wiel: Have you tried Log.d on this: response.getStatusLine().getStatusCode()?
Apr 10 17:47:58 <MroiZo> It'll probably tell you why it's failing
Apr 10 17:48:14 <dragorn> wiel: log.d until you figure out what's failing silently.  Result string is a good place to start, also before you run that to make sure your environment is set up right in the task, etc, etc.
Apr 10 17:50:17 <misterli> does anyone ever implemented a SUBSCRIPTION and VALIDATION by a backend server? There's no documentation about doing that -.-
Apr 10 17:51:45 <nack> I'd like some advice, if possible.  We've got a cross-platform game engine and we want to get it running on android.  I've been porting it over, but I've been tripped up by asset management.  I asked here yesterday about AAssetManager (for some reason it doesn't see assets for me, though they are definitely bundled the apk).
Apr 10 17:52:07 <nack> The conclusion was largely "download stuff instead".
Apr 10 17:52:33 <nack> So I'm looking at what I need to do to call DownloadManager from jni.
Apr 10 17:52:45 <nack> My question is: is this sane?  Should I be doing this differently?
Apr 10 17:52:52 <evanc> nack: use APK Expansion files
Apr 10 17:53:31 <nack> Is there documentation for using those from native code?
Apr 10 17:53:48 <wiel> MroiZo, no, Im going to try that right now
Apr 10 17:54:29 <dragorn> nack: you can always, with difficulty, call whatever you want from native code
Apr 10 17:55:05 <dragorn> nack: you have the java environment and can look up the classes and call them to get the data loaded into your engine.  You wouldn't want to do it realtime but as a startup cost it's probably not unreasonable.  It's not *hard* usually to call native code, just exceptionally tedious
Apr 10 17:55:06 <nack> My problem here is a combination of a short schedule and relative inexperience with java.
Apr 10 17:55:17 <dragorn> s/native code/java code from native/
Apr 10 17:56:28 <nack> I'm an old hand with compiled languages and most of the popular scripting languages, but I've only dabbled in Java and am not yet fluent.
Apr 10 17:57:12 <mdkess> nack, read Effective Java if you haven't already.
Apr 10 17:57:16 <nack> So essentially I'm attempting to script-kiddie my way around the problem until I understand how to do it properly. :)
Apr 10 17:57:33 <dragorn> nack: i don't have any tutorials at my fingertips and the code I was thinking I could link isn't in a public repo.  Look into 'reflection' and 'calling objects from jni'
Apr 10 17:57:58 <nack> I'm doing a bit of that now to get the app cache dir.
Apr 10 17:58:12 <nack> And I'm extrapolating that to calling other things
Apr 10 17:58:41 <dragorn> nack: basically you use introspection to find a class, then you find the init function, then you instantiate it by calling that and getting a jobject, then you can look for methods on that object and call them.  Don't forget your parent pointer if you instantiate a child class.
Apr 10 17:58:43 <nack> But the daunting thing here is more finding out what I even need to call; the language itself isn't the problem for me, it's the library.
Apr 10 17:59:18 <dragorn> well yeah that's a secondary problem I suppose; the docs on the developer site are pretty good.  I've never personally dealt with the external assets.
Apr 10 17:59:49 <nack> The java docs seem decent.  The NDK docs... well...
Apr 10 18:00:18 <nack> At least 80% of the ndk docs seem to be inline comments in the header files.
Apr 10 18:00:29 <nack> And those are pretty terse.
Apr 10 18:00:52 <nack> Unless there's some resource out there I've failed to find, which is quite possible.
Apr 10 18:01:19 <dragorn> I havent' seen a large amount of use of the ndk in public projects
Apr 10 18:01:35 <dragorn> in theory it's possible to do a complete lifecycle w/out java now; i've never seen it done
Apr 10 18:02:00 <nack> Neither have I, but that's what I'm working on.
Apr 10 18:02:24 <nack> We've got a game engine here with ~40 man years of labor invested.  "Port it to java" is not on the table.
Apr 10 18:02:45 <dragorn> no, but there's a big difference between 'port it all to java' and 'pure ndk lifecycle'
Apr 10 18:03:19 <nack> True, but I'm definitely trying to keep the Java part of the equation to the minimum.
Apr 10 18:03:27 <tophyr> i've got a couple bugreport files with stack traces in the logcat that don't correspond to my code like they should. the line the stack trace is pointing to, is not remotely near (like 200+ lines off) the function it's saying the stack frame was in. i'm guessing this is due to dex optimization, or some other recompilation type thing? how can i match this up?
Apr 10 18:03:37 <nack> Everything that gets ported to java is a separate code path we have to maintain.
Apr 10 18:04:17 <nack> Likewise, on iOS we have some ObjC code because you simply can't do iOS without ObjC code.
Apr 10 18:04:41 <nack> But it's only about 0.7% of the code.
Apr 10 18:05:25 <mmoassistdev1> how can i create a raw inputstream seems i can only writebytes to a datainputstream.
Apr 10 18:06:12 <mmoassistdev1> well sorry dataoutputstream is what i writebytes() too
Apr 10 18:09:02 <Solupus> does anyone know what version the android bundle for eclipse is running? and what model like eclipse classic?
Apr 10 18:10:25 <Solupus> i mean... i really tried by installing android adt bundle but it doenst seem like ill ever get used to it. too android oriented
Apr 10 18:10:43 <Solupus> and im not sure if installing PDT would work correctly
Apr 10 18:11:16 <ecraven> can anyone recommend a cross-platform solution for iOs and android? preferably free and open source?
Apr 10 18:23:42 <pfn> mmoassistdev1, you can write bytes to any outputstream
Apr 10 18:24:49 <pfn> mmoassistdev1, all outputstreams implement write(int byte) and write(byte[],off,len)
Apr 10 18:25:22 <pfn> ecraven, there's crap like phonegap
Apr 10 18:26:41 <xviv> test...
Apr 10 18:27:44 <xissy> hello
Apr 10 18:28:45 <xissy> I'm a newbie and looking for awesom REST client with JSON response.
Apr 10 18:28:53 <xissy> Is there any recommendation for me?
Apr 10 18:29:02 <pfn> just use urlconnection and gson
Apr 10 18:29:43 <xissy> urlconnection is async?
Apr 10 18:29:56 <pfn> throw it in a thread or asynctask to make it async
Apr 10 18:30:54 <xissy> it's exactly what I want. is there any automated rest client with that job?
Apr 10 18:31:05 <xviv_> test...
Apr 10 18:31:10 <pfn> it's so simple that it's not worth writing a library
Apr 10 18:31:26 <xviv_> Guys, if I want to set OnItemClickListener within row in my listView. Should I do it in my ListActivity or Adapter class?
Apr 10 18:31:48 <xissy> Okay, thanks pfn!
Apr 10 18:32:01 <speakingcode-wor> JakeWharton: thanks a lot, was at lunch but i see those links you gave me
Apr 10 18:32:44 <g00s> aw, second chrome update in as many days; lost my tabs again pos
Apr 10 18:32:46 <BoxyK> Does anyone know about signing? How does signing an APK with the platform key affect the functions of the APK? Does it have system rights then? Must it be installed in /system?
Apr 10 18:34:12 <pfn> signing it with system keys allows it to request running as the system user and system-only permissions
Apr 10 18:34:31 <mmoassistdev1> think i can use scanner to get the job done of reading the inputstream?  java.util.Scanner s = new java.util.Scanner(is).useDelimiter("\\A");
Apr 10 18:34:40 <pfn> mmoassistdev1, not a good choice, no
Apr 10 18:34:46 <mmoassistdev1> kk
Apr 10 18:34:58 <pfn> I suppose it'll work for some applications
Apr 10 18:35:57 <BoxyK> pfn: But if I do not sign an APK with the platform key it still has system rights when put into /system, right?
Apr 10 18:36:10 <pfn> don't think so, no
Apr 10 18:37:03 <BoxyK> pfn: ok, thanks.
Apr 10 18:37:17 <wiel> how do i convert a List to json?
Apr 10 18:37:31 <pfn> use a library that does it
Apr 10 18:37:39 <pfn> gson is often a good candidate
Apr 10 18:39:04 <Dr_Coke> hi ya'll
Apr 10 18:50:26 <Manavan> I opened an sqlite database and tried this db.execSQL("VACUUM"). App just hangs at that line now.
Apr 10 18:50:31 <Manavan> any idea
Apr 10 18:50:50 <xviv_> In my ListActivity, I set  onItemClickListener. And get some data with something like 'tvName.getText().toString();'. But sometimes, I shrink the string because it's too long. Should I get it from something like cursor or using TAG?
Apr 10 18:51:26 <xviv_> Manavan: Why you exec "VACUUM" directly to sqlite?
Apr 10 18:52:09 <Manavan> xviv, I want to make the db size smaller and efficient.
Apr 10 18:52:17 <Manavan> any other way?!
Apr 10 18:52:20 <xviv_> Manavan: do you want insert or another query?
Apr 10 18:52:49 <Manavan> I just want to run Vacuum and clean up the sqlite db
Apr 10 18:53:04 <lov> Manavan: WHY do you want to do this?
Apr 10 18:53:17 <lov> Do you have any reason to believe that you have severe performance problems that only rebuilding the database will solve?
Apr 10 18:54:01 <lov> I'm very strongly inclined to believe that your performance issues lie elsewhere (poor design, etc)
Apr 10 18:54:10 <Manavan> lov, Its a HTML5 Phonegap Hybrid App which has size limitation on db. A lot of insert and delete happen frequently. I was able to do this in IOS succesfully.
Apr 10 18:54:12 <xviv_> I'm new in sqlite but I guess, you should pay attention at your data type in sqlite.
Apr 10 18:54:30 <speakingcode-wor> hey JakeWharton this is about what I need, but is there a way to make the submenu NOT dismiss when the user makes a selection? I'd like them to be able to go through and toggle each one they want without the menu dismissing
Apr 10 18:54:36 <lov> Manavan: that doesn't really answer the question, though.
Apr 10 18:55:40 <Manavan> "size limitation on db". that doesn't answer your question of "Why do you want to do this"?!
Apr 10 18:58:06 <xviv_> Manavan: So, exec("VACUUM") will shrink the db size?
Apr 10 18:58:43 <g00s> Manavan: android's sqlite is compiled with DEFAULT_AUTOVACUUM=1 anyhow
Apr 10 18:59:07 <Manavan> xviv: Yes. SQLite db just keep grows even if u delete your data. Vacuum will reclaim it. We give this as an option when they reach db size limit in HTML5.
Apr 10 18:59:35 <Manavan> g00s >> Thanks. Do you know if Sqlite in HTML5 has autovacuum turned on too?
Apr 10 18:59:45 <g00s> sqlite in html5 ?
Apr 10 18:59:54 <g00s> no - i have no idea
Apr 10 18:59:56 <xviv_> Hya Guys, In my ListActivity, I set  onItemClickListener. And get some data with something like 'tvName.getText().toString();'. But sometimes, I shrink the string because it's too long. Should I get it from something like cursor or using TAGblablabla?
Apr 10 19:00:34 <Manavan> ya this is a hybrid HTML5/PhoneGap app where I open the html5 sqlite db and clean up at app start (if the user demanded).
Apr 10 19:00:54 <Manavan> g00s >> May be i can query the db to see if it has AUTOVACUUM turned on? do you know how
Apr 10 19:01:19 <birbeck> i dont think you will get much phonegap support here
Apr 10 19:01:46 <Manavan> birbeck, I am still trying to do it on native side though.
Apr 10 19:02:55 <r0ver> How do you center an ImageView between two TextView (as in http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15934129/how-to-center-an-imageview-with-two-textview) ?
Apr 10 19:04:05 <pfn> Manavan, the sqlite available from html5 should be the same as configured on the platform
Apr 10 19:05:35 <Manavan> pfn, thanks! :)
Apr 10 19:09:14 <coco89> hey guys, i've ben trying to use shared preferences to stay logged into the app even after returning when the app closes http://pastebin.com/NSSLMxs8 but for some reason it doesn't work
Apr 10 19:09:24 <Manavan> pfm or g00s >> Do you know if i have an sqlite db file How to find out if it has AUTOVACUUM on or off
Apr 10 19:09:56 <pfn> Manavan, that's for google to answer
Apr 10 19:10:06 <pfn> Manavan, otherwise, look at the source to see what the default definitions are
Apr 10 19:10:08 <coco89> it started to go crazy
Apr 10 19:11:58 <Manavan> pfn >> Got it from Sqlite website :) It is query PRAGMA auto_vacuum; thanks guys!
Apr 10 19:12:19 <coco89> anyone
Apr 10 19:19:44 <coco89> where is everybady
Apr 10 19:26:20 <coco89> hello?
Apr 10 19:27:14 <SimonVT> shh
Apr 10 19:27:20 <coco89> SimonVT, hey
Apr 10 19:27:28 <BoxyK> On a Windows PC, my Android devices suddenly are not reachable via ADB anymore, although they seem to be perfectly fine recognized in the device manager. Does anyone know this phenomenon?
Apr 10 19:27:36 <coco89> SimonVT, i'm trying to stay logged in but it's not working http://pastebin.com/NSSLMxs8
Apr 10 19:27:47 <SimonVT> Fix it then
Apr 10 19:27:51 <coco89> SimonVT, i can't
Apr 10 19:28:07 <coco89> is it even the right way about staying logged in?
Apr 10 19:28:25 <SimonVT> dunno
Apr 10 19:28:33 <coco89> oh
Apr 10 19:32:34 <g00s> MS Office for Android in fall 2014; i can't even begin to imagine how hard that was to port
Apr 10 19:33:16 <coco89> g00s, can you help
Apr 10 19:33:18 <coco89> pleaes
Apr 10 19:33:28 <g00s> coco89: probably not
Apr 10 19:33:45 <coco89> g00s, cos you don't know how?
Apr 10 19:33:47 <misterli> if anyone ever made subscriptions working on a backend server.. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15934656/validate-google-play-subscriptions  10$ by paypal for the working answer..
Apr 10 19:33:58 <g00s> coco89: i probably don't know
Apr 10 19:34:12 * lov glares at misterli 
Apr 10 19:34:15 * lov points at the topic
Apr 10 19:34:18 <coco89> lov, http://pastebin.com/NSSLMxs8
Apr 10 19:34:26 <lov> coco89: yeah, good luck with that.
Apr 10 19:34:30 <misterli> :P sorry
Apr 10 19:34:30 <coco89> lov, wtf
Apr 10 19:34:39 <coco89> you're the one who suggested to use shared preferences
Apr 10 19:34:48 <lov> coco89: your question is extremely vague. "Hey guys, here's a snippet of code. WHATS WRONG????"
Apr 10 19:34:51 <misterli> if anyone can solve this for free.. it would be great too ;)
Apr 10 19:34:54 <lov> well, I don't know, what IS wrong?
Apr 10 19:35:00 <lov> "it doesn't work" doesn't help.
Apr 10 19:35:05 <lov> have you tried stepping through with a debugger?
Apr 10 19:35:36 <g00s> coco89: "THERE’S A SCENE in the movie Planes, Trains & Automobiles where John Candy and Steve Martin accidentally drive down the highway heading the wrong way, against traffic. Oncoming traffic swerves out of the way. Other drivers yell at them, “You’re going the wrong way! You’re going the wrong way!” Candy’s character shrugs it off. “How do they know where we’re going?”
Apr 10 19:35:39 <coco89> yes, well the console started to go nuts and my phone's wallpaper disappeared
Apr 10 19:36:03 <lov> coco89: that sounds unfortunate but that's probably not related to shared prefs.
Apr 10 19:36:26 <coco89> lov, I see but i commented it all out and the app worked again
Apr 10 19:36:30 <coco89> one sec
Apr 10 19:37:08 <lov> g00s: I like this inference.
Apr 10 19:37:47 <Dr_Coke> thats because your gay
Apr 10 19:38:33 <BoxyK> the code seems ok to me
Apr 10 19:38:38 <SimonVT> you're*
Apr 10 19:38:44 <Dr_Coke> exactly
Apr 10 19:40:36 <lov> Dr_Coke: do you actually have anything to contribute to the channel?
Apr 10 19:42:16 <coco89> lov, this is what comes up in the console but it keeps
Apr 10 19:42:37 <coco89> doing it and everything freezes on my phones
Apr 10 19:42:42 <coco89> like it's in a loop or something
Apr 10 19:42:43 <coco89> http://pastebin.com/z3nJz0UE
Apr 10 19:43:31 <coco89> this is the code http://pastebin.com/RED342HU
Apr 10 19:43:45 <lov> That's the garbage collector. you're creating and destroying a bunch of objects.
Apr 10 19:44:30 <xviv_> Guys, what class/lib should I use for opening a file based on it's mimetype? I'll let user choose their fave app to open this file.
Apr 10 19:44:37 <coco89> lov, how :S
Apr 10 19:45:33 <lov> coco89: this I don't know. Nothing jumps out at me, at least not at first glance, that would do this.
Apr 10 19:45:47 <lov> The only possible thing would be if your response is providing you with much, much more content than you expected.
Apr 10 19:46:03 <coco89> oh right :S
Apr 10 19:46:05 <lov> coco89: what happens if you step through this with a debugger?
Apr 10 19:46:25 <lov> also, I'd strongly recommend that you not put finish() in onPause
Apr 10 19:46:30 <xastey> umm how do I add a slide in/out animation when switching fragments
Apr 10 19:46:45 <xviv_> well, what if just opening a file in app that appropriate to it's mimetype?
Apr 10 19:47:07 <coco89> lov, oh really? and one sec i'm trying it
Apr 10 19:47:13 <lov> xviv_: send off an intent for it. That's what intents are for.
Apr 10 19:47:20 <xviv_> I think lov answer is for coco89, lol!
Apr 10 19:47:30 <lov> xviv_: you can always query the packagemanage to see if anyone actually supports the mimetype, etc.
Apr 10 19:47:41 <lov> and yeah, I was responding to coco89.
Apr 10 19:48:04 <Dr_Coke> you know man
Apr 10 19:48:21 <Dr_Coke> i do have something to contribute to the channel
Apr 10 19:48:33 <xviv_> lov: wow, strange word for me. I will try to translate your answer first. Thanks, lov!
Apr 10 19:49:10 <lov> xviv_: https://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/pm/PackageManager.html#queryIntentActivities%28android.content.Intent,%20int%29
Apr 10 19:49:18 <Dr_Coke> lov
Apr 10 19:49:39 <Dr_Coke> here is what i want to contribute to you
Apr 10 19:49:44 <Dr_Coke> REALLY GAY!
Apr 10 19:50:00 <kevinb> xviv_: also see http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/01/can-i-use-this-intent.html
Apr 10 19:50:38 <xviv_> Thanks kevinb, Thanks lov. Off to read it! You guys are awesome!
Apr 10 19:50:45 <lov> np
Apr 10 19:51:37 <NucWin> do i generate one key per app or do i use one key for all my apps? im stuck on key name lol
Apr 10 19:51:56 <SimonVT> yes
Apr 10 19:52:07 <pfn> you can do it either way
Apr 10 19:52:26 <pfn> but if you want to transfer ownership of your apps to another organization/individual/corporation you'll want to use key-per-app
Apr 10 19:59:05 <canadiancow> and if you want to use signature permissions, you'll want to use one key for all your apps :P
Apr 10 19:59:32 <coco89> i've no idea what's going on :(
Apr 10 19:59:44 <misterli> wow. finally i made it. the scope was just wrong.. crappy google oAuth2 -_-
Apr 10 19:59:53 <pfn> well, if you have permissions and stuff that group your apps together, then yeah, you'll want to use a single key for those
Apr 10 20:00:20 <coco89> anyone?
Apr 10 20:00:51 <coco89> my app keeps freezing as soon as i run it and the GC goes crazy http://pastebin.com/RED342HU
Apr 10 20:01:57 <misterli> dude, use your httpclient in an asynctask..
Apr 10 20:01:57 <misterli> lol
Apr 10 20:01:59 <evanc> coco89: man, format your code
Apr 10 20:02:17 <misterli> never use a blocking connection in a mainUI Thread
Apr 10 20:02:50 <coco89> misterli, a blocking connection?
Apr 10 20:03:02 <Zaknafein> your UI is waiting for the http to finish
Apr 10 20:03:28 <misterli> coco89. Use your Blockingstuff in a thread. AsyncTask is a good choice)
Apr 10 20:03:33 <evanc> Zaknafein: how so? postLoginDetails is called off the UI thread as far as I can see (though this is hard to read)
Apr 10 20:03:36 <lov> he's calling postLoginDetails in a thread, or am I misreading this?
Apr 10 20:03:57 <lov> I mean yeah you should probably migrate to AsyncTask but still.
Apr 10 20:04:14 <Zaknafein> hrm hard to read without syntax highlighting
Apr 10 20:04:16 <misterli> oh shit. You'r right. It's hard to read :/
Apr 10 20:04:19 <coco89> yes i'm calling postLoginDetails in a thread
Apr 10 20:04:33 <lov> also!
Apr 10 20:04:44 <coco89> but everything was working until i added the shared preferences thing
Apr 10 20:04:44 <lov> 15:46:15 < lov> coco89: what happens if you step through this with a debugger?
Apr 10 20:04:55 <lov> coco89: I sincerely doubt that Shared Prefs are the cause of this.
Apr 10 20:05:16 <coco89> lov, each time i comment the shared preferences stuff out everything works like a charm
Apr 10 20:05:36 <coco89> lov, i've tried using the debugger and steppin gthrough but it's just blank the whole way through
Apr 10 20:06:04 <misterli> Is it freezing or just crashing by outofmemoryexception?
Apr 10 20:07:02 <evanc> coco89: do you have a ton of shit in your sharedprefs?
Apr 10 20:07:15 <evanc> what all do you write to it?
Apr 10 20:07:23 <coco89> evanc: not that i know of ? :S
Apr 10 20:07:36 <misterli> this shouldnt slow down. I've about 2000 preferences in my app and it's working fine ;)
Apr 10 20:07:38 <lov> what do you mean "it's just blank the whole way through"
Apr 10 20:08:01 <speakingcode-wor> why all the lov for async task over threading?
Apr 10 20:08:02 <evanc> misterli: yeah but what if he has binary stuff in it or something? I'm wondering if it's just taking a while to do the initial read or something
Apr 10 20:08:05 <kevinb> uninstall the app and reinstall it. maybe you had some old code that added new shared preferences in a loop or something and you have hundreds of mb or gb of it
Apr 10 20:08:08 <speakingcode-wor> love* woops
Apr 10 20:08:38 <lov> speakingcode-wor: in this case it makes sense to use an async task since he's doing UI actions anyway in relation to his thread (the progress dialog, the run on ui thing, etc)
Apr 10 20:08:46 <coco89> i've never used shared preferences ever until just now
Apr 10 20:09:45 <pfn> oh, on android 4.2, how do I managed allowed debugging computers?  I don't see a way to manage them in developer options
Apr 10 20:10:31 <coco89> lov, the app just doesn't appear and i'm stepping through the whole code and i'm not sure where the app breaks
Apr 10 20:10:51 <pfn> if it hangs, look at the stack of your app's main thread
Apr 10 20:10:53 <pfn> then fix
Apr 10 20:11:06 <pfn> or, wait for the anr, and look in /data/tombstones or whatever it is
Apr 10 20:12:05 <evanc> /data/anr/traces.txt
Apr 10 20:12:17 <pfn> what that guy said
Apr 10 20:13:20 <coco89> this is what happens when stepping over from setContentView to getSharedPreferences http://pastebin.com/b3BEgEiE
Apr 10 20:13:23 <coco89> pfn, how do i do that?
Apr 10 20:13:27 <speakingcode-wor> lov: ah, i didn't see the context. i just generally prefer plain ole threading over asynctask b/c of portability
Apr 10 20:13:55 <pfn> coco89, go into ddms, click on your app, click on the threads button
Apr 10 20:14:01 <pfn> click on the 'main' thread in the thread list
Apr 10 20:14:04 <pfn> press the request stack button
Apr 10 20:14:10 <pfn> look at the stack where it's stuck
Apr 10 20:14:12 <pfn> and fix
Apr 10 20:15:05 <pfn> huh, where is the developer options setting page in 4.2?
Apr 10 20:15:33 <JesusFreke> pfn: about phone, go down to the very bottom and tap on the last entry 7 times
Apr 10 20:15:34 <evanc> pfn: hidden. go to "About", then tap the build number 7 times
Apr 10 20:15:37 <JesusFreke> (yes, really)
Apr 10 20:15:45 <pfn> wow, terrible
Apr 10 20:15:52 <pfn> so... how do I manage saved rsa keys?
Apr 10 20:16:11 <JesusFreke> grow some pointy hair?
Apr 10 20:16:25 <coco89> pfn,  it says thread update not available for selected client
Apr 10 20:16:52 <pfn> coco89, build it in debug mode
Apr 10 20:16:55 <pfn> not release
Apr 10 20:16:59 <coco89> oh ok
Apr 10 20:18:32 <xviv> Am I doing it wrong? because I got ActivityNotFoundException. https://gist.github.com/xqdzn/5358041
Apr 10 20:18:50 <JesusFreke> I'm pretty sure the answer is "yes" :)
Apr 10 20:19:08 <pfn> text/plain
Apr 10 20:19:10 <pfn> not plain/text
Apr 10 20:19:37 <pfn> hrm, so no way of managing rsa keys on-device?  that's pretty terrible
Apr 10 20:21:28 <xviv> Thanks pfn!
Apr 10 20:21:37 <pfn> hmm, looks like it's stored in /data/misc/adb/adb_keys
Apr 10 20:21:43 <pfn> I guess that's somewhat manageable
Apr 10 20:22:07 <coco89> pfn, http://oi50.tinypic.com/2nbedf6.jpg i've no idea
Apr 10 20:22:24 <coco89> what is giong
Apr 10 20:22:26 <coco89> *going on
Apr 10 20:23:10 <pfn> coco89, that's your list of threads, and you didn't request the stack for 'main' as you were directed
Apr 10 20:23:19 <coco89> pfn,  how do i do that
Apr 10 20:23:24 <pfn> click on main
Apr 10 20:23:26 <pfn> ...
Apr 10 20:24:52 <coco89> pfn, okay i've clicked on main
Apr 10 20:25:20 <coco89> there's juts a bunch of stuff
Apr 10 20:25:38 <pfn> that is how you determine what is hanging where
Apr 10 20:25:41 <pfn> read it and interpret
Apr 10 20:25:54 <pfn> pay attention to the last stack frame that contains your code, and evaluate
Apr 10 20:28:18 <coco89> pfn, how do i read that http://oi50.tinypic.com/vopdll.jpg
Apr 10 20:28:38 <pfn> by expanding the column width
Apr 10 20:30:15 <coco89> it wont expand
Apr 10 20:30:56 <coco89> i can hover the mouse over them and read them one by one
Apr 10 20:31:00 <coco89> but i dont even know what im looking for
Apr 10 20:31:27 <pfn> go up and down the stack until you find your code
Apr 10 20:31:39 <pfn> otherwise, just identify every stack frame and try to understand why it's doing what it is
Apr 10 20:31:58 <pfn> or press one of the buttons to save the stack to a text file
Apr 10 20:34:48 <coco89> i click on them
Apr 10 20:34:53 <coco89> and i'm not getting anything
Apr 10 20:35:05 <coco89> pfn, how am i supposed to understand what's giong on :S
Apr 10 20:35:52 <pfn> coco89, by reading the stack and understanding what's going on
Apr 10 20:35:59 <pfn> coco89, google for how to understand stack dumps
Apr 10 20:36:42 <coco89> i give up
Apr 10 20:36:51 <coco89> :(
Apr 10 20:37:37 <coco89> it's just way too confusing
Apr 10 20:38:14 <JesusFreke> coco89: it's a pretty simple concept. That represents the call stack at that particular moment
Apr 10 20:38:36 <JesusFreke> the bottom most entry is the "oldest". and each entry above that represents a method call from within the lower method
Apr 10 20:38:56 <JesusFreke> you usually get the class name and even the actual line number where the call occurs
Apr 10 20:39:13 <tnzr> is it necessary to use the v4 support lib in order to navigate up with the home button?
Apr 10 20:39:14 <JesusFreke> so you can see exactly where execution is occuring
Apr 10 20:39:14 <coco89>   at android.util.LongSparseArray.binarySearch(LongSparseArray.java:339)	
Apr 10 20:39:14 <coco89> is the top of the stack
Apr 10 20:39:48 <pfn> keep stepping down
Apr 10 20:40:09 <pfn> you'll find your guilty code in there
Apr 10 20:40:10 <JesusFreke> coco89: that isn't necessarily relevant. It's possible that, e.g. you have an infinite loop down lower, in your own code
Apr 10 20:40:37 <coco89> there's like 40 things
Apr 10 20:41:06 <JesusFreke> that's not all that unusual. you can likely ignore the large majority of them
Apr 10 20:41:13 <JesusFreke> I would look for the parts that are in your code in particular
Apr 10 20:41:18 <coco89>   at com.nfc.goldtag.Login.onCreate(Login.java:48)
Apr 10 20:42:08 <JesusFreke> and what is at line 48 in Login.java? :)
Apr 10 20:43:02 <coco89> setcontent view?
Apr 10 20:43:21 <evanc> can you paste login.xml?
Apr 10 20:44:06 <coco89> http://pastebin.com/Rnz7GmKR
Apr 10 20:44:38 <evanc> huh, okay
Apr 10 20:44:57 <evanc> coco89: how long does it freeze for? forever?
Apr 10 20:45:00 <pfn> do you have anything higher up in stack?
Apr 10 20:45:02 <coco89> evanc, yep
Apr 10 20:45:18 <pfn> and why are you using com.nfc as your package prefix anyway?
Apr 10 20:45:47 <pfn> you probably have something more interesting higher up in the stack
Apr 10 20:45:52 <pfn> or it's in a loop
Apr 10 20:45:58 <pfn> pastebin onCreate()
Apr 10 20:46:03 <coco89> pfn,   at android.app.Activity.setContentView(Activity.java:1924)
Apr 10 20:46:04 <pfn> for (ever) setContentView(blah)
Apr 10 20:46:07 <evanc> coco89: do you not get a dialog (eventually) saying "So and so has stopped responding" ?
Apr 10 20:46:20 <pfn> coco89, pastebin the entire stack, not just line by line
Apr 10 20:46:26 <pfn> figure out why your view is truncated
Apr 10 20:46:32 <pfn> because it's not truncated when I view my own stacks
Apr 10 20:47:29 <coco89> pfn, http://pastebin.com/iUkTikFa
Apr 10 20:48:00 <coco89> evanc, nope
Apr 10 20:49:44 <evanc> coco89: really? It just silently hangs?
Apr 10 20:49:55 <coco89> evanc, yeh now it isn't even starting
Apr 10 20:50:36 <evanc> any chance you can post the APK somewhere? You can send me the link privately if you prefer. I'm curious about this behavior
Apr 10 20:50:43 <evanc> also, what device are you testing on?
Apr 10 20:50:50 <coco89> and samsung galaxy s3
Apr 10 20:52:10 <pfn> coco89, where's onCreate's source?
Apr 10 20:52:47 <pfn> for that matter, do you call startActivity() anywhere?
Apr 10 20:52:57 <pfn> or startActivityForResult
Apr 10 20:53:03 <pfn> if so, you probably have it in a loop
Apr 10 20:53:51 <coco89> pfn, http://pastebin.com/gAjQSG8L
Apr 10 20:54:12 <pfn> what happens if you constantly press refresh on the stack trace
Apr 10 20:54:15 <pfn> does it change dramatically?
Apr 10 20:54:40 <coco89> pfn, yes
Apr 10 20:54:56 <coco89> i was wondering about that actually
Apr 10 20:54:57 <pfn> pastebin a few samples of what it looks like
Apr 10 20:55:07 <pfn> my guess, you're calling startActivity in a loop
Apr 10 20:55:34 <pfn> um
Apr 10 20:55:35 <pfn> line 55
Apr 10 20:55:46 <pfn> hopefully mainactivity is not this activity
Apr 10 20:56:03 <pfn> and if it's not
Apr 10 20:56:03 <evanc> snrk
Apr 10 20:56:12 <evanc> yeah, coco89 can you pastebin your AndroidManifest.xml?
Apr 10 20:56:15 <pfn> hopefully main activity does not call LOGINACTIVITY
Apr 10 20:56:16 <coco89> pfn, http://pastebin.com/k4iU5BWk
Apr 10 20:56:45 <pfn> startActivity loop
Apr 10 20:58:11 <coco89> pfn, hmm main activioty does in fact call login activity if the user is not logged in because scanning an nfc tag in my app opens up the main activity so i had to do a check
Apr 10 20:58:14 * evanc facepalms
Apr 10 20:58:26 <evanc> well-spotted, pfn
Apr 10 20:58:33 <coco89> well spotted pfn
Apr 10 20:58:38 <coco89> wait i will paste the main acitivty
Apr 10 20:59:22 <coco89> pfn, http://pastebin.com/LxPV6aSd
Apr 10 21:00:37 <coco89> but it's strange though because the main activity shouldn't be called until the user has actually logged in :S
Apr 10 21:02:23 <pfn> now it's up to you to figure out why your userLoggedIn variable is failing
Apr 10 21:03:28 <coco89> pfn, isn't this line setting it to false boolean isUserLoggedIn = preferences.getBoolean("loggedIn", false);
Apr 10 21:03:29 <pfn> most likely because you set the pref = true, but the Login.userLoggedIn = false
Apr 10 21:03:43 <coco89> ah
Apr 10 21:03:46 <pfn> particularly, this happens if you set the preference = true, quit; restart
Apr 10 21:03:54 <pfn> now: preference = true; userLoggedIn = false
Apr 10 21:04:20 <pfn> of course, isUserLoggedIn != userLoggedIn
Apr 10 21:05:01 <speakingcode-wor> putting an & (ampersand) in the string for the text field of a textview is giving me this error : 	- The reference to entity "T" must end with the ';' delimiter.
Apr 10 21:05:25 <coco89> pfn, I see yeah. can't believe I missed that
Apr 10 21:05:26 <speakingcode-wor> is there some way I can escape it or something?
Apr 10 21:05:28 <pfn> speakingcode-wor, read up on XML and necessary escaping
Apr 10 21:05:31 <coco89> pfn,  thanks a lot
Apr 10 21:05:32 <pfn> &amp;
Apr 10 21:05:42 <speakingcode-wor> thanks pfn
Apr 10 21:05:52 <pfn> AT&T eh
Apr 10 21:06:19 <speakingcode-wor> that's actually the value ;-)
Apr 10 21:06:25 * pfn mindreads
Apr 10 21:06:38 <speakingcode-wor> it worked fine literally in other places
Apr 10 21:06:57 <pfn> not in xml it won't
Apr 10 21:07:11 <pfn> unless you surround it with <!CDATA[...]]>
Apr 10 21:07:22 <pfn> er
Apr 10 21:07:31 <pfn> <![CDATA[ ?  I forget
Apr 10 21:08:53 * pfn wonders how complex writing sound recognition logic is
Apr 10 21:09:03 <pfn> I want to write an automated espresso timer
Apr 10 21:09:16 <pfn> (for machines with a vibration pump, maybe rotary pump as well)
Apr 10 21:12:25 <speakingcode-wor> pfn depends on what you mean by hard
Apr 10 21:12:30 <speakingcode-wor> i've done signal processing work
Apr 10 21:13:23 <speakingcode-wor> you get the audio as raw waveform data and run statistic analyses on it, find patterns/features that match to what you're looking for. all kinds of research in that area
Apr 10 21:13:53 <speakingcode-wor> binary classifiers are a lot easier than general ones. i.e. "is it this?" vs "what is it?"
Apr 10 21:17:30 <tnzr> ugh
Apr 10 21:17:55 <tnzr> when I hit home on a kindle 7 it returns to the right activity (which is a SlidingMenu activity) but the click occurs again for some reason and opens the sliding drawer
Apr 10 21:18:27 <xviv> Guys, can I set mimetype with "image" instead of "image/png" ?
Apr 10 21:20:15 <g00s> tnzr: get yourself a real Android tablet :)
Apr 10 21:21:10 <tnzr> well it works on a nexus 10, nexus 7, asus transformer, galaxy tab and a bigger kindle
Apr 10 21:21:18 <tnzr> oh and on a Xoom
Apr 10 21:21:25 <g00s> well, those are Android tablets
Apr 10 21:21:27 <g00s> :)
Apr 10 21:21:28 <tnzr> haha
Apr 10 21:21:41 <g00s> oh, bigger kindle - heh
Apr 10 21:26:34 <pfn> speakingcode-wor, yeah, just something of a pain to actually codify
Apr 10 21:29:26 <g00s> pfn: and when your espresso is done, you can use this http://foodbeast.com/content/2013/01/24/the-iphone-coffee-holder-so-you-never-have-to-choose-between-texting-caffeine-again
Apr 10 21:30:04 <pfn> cute
Apr 10 21:30:39 <cbates> thats not real I hope
Apr 10 21:32:20 <pfn> but espresso isn't really sipped, so that's not an issue
Apr 10 21:32:40 <birbeck> i need a way to carry my coffee, helmet and smoke at the same time
Apr 10 21:33:14 <pfn> that sounds easy, adapt one of those beer hat with straw things
Apr 10 21:33:27 <pfn> plumb an e-cig into one, and drop the other straw into your coffee
Apr 10 21:33:50 <birbeck> and attach it to my helmet... then i can drink coffee and smoke while riding even
Apr 10 21:33:54 <birbeck> brilliant
Apr 10 21:34:22 <speakingcode-wor> i bet someone makes a badass helmet that hooks into a honda goldwing that does that already
Apr 10 21:34:36 <speakingcode-wor> builtin bluetooth ecig
Apr 10 21:34:59 <birbeck> if you want a 4000lb 2 wheel car
Apr 10 21:35:18 <speakingcode-wor> old man's bike of choice
Apr 10 21:40:45 <coco89> pfn, I don't understand what's making isUserLoggedIn to true
Apr 10 21:41:28 <pfn> coco89, your preference check is
Apr 10 21:42:11 <coco89> which preference check
Apr 10 21:42:32 <pfn> the one where you check preferences.getBoolean("loggedIn", false)
Apr 10 21:44:06 <coco89> so that's getting a boolean from the SharedPreference object which i set to false right?
Apr 10 21:44:08 <cbates> haven't looked at your code but did u save your preferences at some point?
Apr 10 21:44:54 <cbates> I believe SharedPreference is persistent , the false is just the default if it can't be found
Apr 10 21:45:18 <cbates> if you ever saved it would of course be true
Apr 10 21:45:27 <coco89> http://pastebin.com/7fSH2095
Apr 10 21:45:29 <cbates> u can test by uninstalling and trying again
Apr 10 21:45:37 <cbates> thanks
Apr 10 21:45:40 <cbates> that will help
Apr 10 21:45:52 <pfn> coco89, you set it true when you logged in
Apr 10 21:46:09 <coco89> pfn, but that's the thing when I open the app i dont even get the chance to log in
Apr 10 21:46:18 <coco89> because it's juts blank and freezes
Apr 10 21:47:14 <pfn> coco89, because you set it true on a *previous* execution
Apr 10 21:47:46 <cbates> editor.putBoolean("loggedIn", true);
Apr 10 21:47:46 <cbates>                                 editor.commit();
Apr 10 21:47:54 <cbates> yeah its been saved
Apr 10 21:47:58 <cbates> what are u trying to do?
Apr 10 21:48:43 <cbates> sounds like you want something more transient
Apr 10 21:49:01 <cbates> savedInstanceState parameter with onCreate I think is one option
Apr 10 21:49:15 <g00s> damn. http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=14733
Apr 10 21:49:22 <coco89> cbates,  oh?
Apr 10 21:49:33 <coco89> pfn, the previous execution?
Apr 10 21:50:26 <cbates> you are saving "loggedIn" to a file on disk
Apr 10 21:50:46 <cbates> once its saved it will report true on the next time you start
Apr 10 21:51:06 <cbates> thats for persistent preference storage
Apr 10 21:51:30 <hetii> Hi :)
Apr 10 21:52:08 <coco89> oh I see
Apr 10 21:53:36 <speakingcode-wor> coco89: previous execution = lasttime you ran the app/activity
Apr 10 21:55:11 <speakingcode-wor> good read g00s , thanks
Apr 10 21:55:39 <g00s> np
Apr 10 21:57:37 <coco89> cbates, how do I initialise it with false
Apr 10 21:58:29 <cbates>  SharedPreferences.Editor editor = preferences.edit();
Apr 10 21:58:29 <cbates>                                 editor.putBoolean("loggedIn", false);
Apr 10 21:58:29 <cbates>                                 editor.commit();
Apr 10 21:58:44 <cbates> sorry for the code post (seemed faster)
Apr 10 21:59:03 <cbates> if u add that to your create it should get around your issue
Apr 10 21:59:19 <cbates> but i looks like the wrong tool for what u are trying to do
Apr 10 21:59:35 <coco89> cbates, yeah but then each time i open the app it wuold be false
Apr 10 21:59:40 <pfn> coco89, yes, you ran it once, set it to true, it stays true until you set it to false
Apr 10 21:59:57 <cbates> what are u trying to do
Apr 10 22:00:12 <cbates> what is that variable used for
Apr 10 22:00:15 <coco89> cbates, i'm trying to make my app stay logged in until the user pressed log out
Apr 10 22:00:35 <coco89> *presses
Apr 10 22:00:35 <evanc> coco89: what does "logged in" even mean? Just a bit set?
Apr 10 22:00:45 <evanc> if that's the case, just use SharedPreferences
Apr 10 22:00:53 <pfn> that's what he's doing right now
Apr 10 22:00:54 <cbates> thanks that was my next question ;-)
Apr 10 22:01:06 <pfn> he just broke his logic to get stuck in a loop
Apr 10 22:01:15 <evanc> nice
Apr 10 22:01:26 <pfn> rather than setting isUserLoggedIn = pref.getBoolean
Apr 10 22:01:30 <coco89> lol, logged in.  I have a log in page which posts the login details to a web server and gets validated and returns a boolean depending on the result
Apr 10 22:01:36 <pfn> just set userLoggedIn = pref.getBoolean
Apr 10 22:01:41 <pfn> and ditch the local boolean isUserLoggedIn
Apr 10 22:01:56 <coco89> ok i'll try that
Apr 10 22:04:03 <coco89> okay so that worked, thanks pfn
Apr 10 22:04:18 <coco89> i don't know why I can't think today :(
Apr 10 22:04:29 <coco89> I think my own code is confusing me
Apr 10 22:04:38 <coco89> i need to start commenting
Apr 10 22:04:38 <coco89> lol
Apr 10 22:05:33 <evanc> your code is confusing me
Apr 10 22:05:44 <coco89> im confusing my code
Apr 10 22:07:54 <pfn> as for storing login state like that... that's a pretty poor manager of security
Apr 10 22:08:09 <pfn> assuming you want any security
Apr 10 22:15:23 <coco89> pfn, now you tell me
Apr 10 22:16:15 <cbates> looking for a good way to store specific preferences for widgets. Would like to set transparency,  color, etc as the widget is being created.
Apr 10 22:16:28 <coco89> pfn, what would've you suggested??
Apr 10 22:20:41 <coco89> also how do I access a ahsared preference from another activity
Apr 10 22:22:07 <speakingcode-wor> wtf, i'm grabbing a GridView with an id, via findViewById... and getting a ClassCastError (LinearLayout cannot be cast to android.widget.GridView)... howwww?
Apr 10 22:22:47 <cbates> did u change it from LinearLayout?
Apr 10 22:22:53 <cbates> u may just need to do a clean
Apr 10 22:22:54 <speakingcode-wor> it never was a linear layout
Apr 10 22:23:08 <speakingcode-wor> i'll try it
Apr 10 22:25:45 <speakingcode-wor> clean worked. thanks. weirdness
Apr 10 22:26:21 <HorizonXP> if i wanted to playback a video, with the frames going through a GL shader, how might i do that?
Apr 10 22:26:40 <cbates> yeah hit the same error last week
Apr 10 22:27:19 <cbates> it rebuilt your id under the covers
Apr 10 22:28:29 <speakingcode-wor> sneaky lil bastard
Apr 10 22:31:22 <smiley_c_> Hi everyone! Does anyone have any experience developing with Service Discovery for Wi-Fi Direct or Wi-Fi Direct in general?
Apr 10 22:32:42 <coco89> pfn, i broke my app again
Apr 10 22:37:25 <JesusFreke> coco89: have you tried not breaking it?
Apr 10 22:39:03 <coco89> JesusFreke, maybe i shuold be a software tester? :D
Apr 10 22:39:07 <coco89> i just keep breaking apps
Apr 10 22:45:19 <coco89> http://pastebin.com/hhUQ9DSf
Apr 10 22:45:24 <coco89> what's happening now, it keeps freezing again
Apr 10 22:46:39 <evanc> coco89: you broke something again
Apr 10 22:46:59 <coco89> yep :(
Apr 10 22:47:32 <coco89> i tried implementing a logout feature in the mainactivity and set the userLogIn boolean to false
Apr 10 22:47:48 <coco89> everything crashed
Apr 10 22:47:51 <coco89> again
Apr 10 22:47:57 <coco89> and then i commented it out
Apr 10 22:48:08 <coco89> completely and it's still crashing :/
Apr 10 22:48:28 <evanc> I feel like this is coco89's app: http://pastebin.com/awVQZnR1
Apr 10 22:49:38 <coco89> :D
Apr 10 22:49:45 <coco89> not intentioanlly!
Apr 10 22:50:05 <coco89> *intentionally
Apr 10 22:51:18 <coco89> I thuoght i had fixed the logic
Apr 10 22:51:21 <coco89> why is it still crashing?
Apr 10 22:51:34 <evanc> that's not a crash, coco89
Apr 10 22:51:38 <evanc> please don't throw that word aroun
Apr 10 22:51:40 <evanc> around*
Apr 10 22:51:51 <coco89> *freeze
Apr 10 22:52:26 <evanc> it's also not a freeze
Apr 10 22:52:34 <evanc> it's a startActivity loop
Apr 10 22:52:47 <coco89> evanc, which i commented out and should work now but doesn't?
Apr 10 22:52:54 <coco89> and the loop results in a freeze?
Apr 10 22:52:56 <evanc> the reason it's crashing is because you broke something. You said what you changed above. Try undoing that and retrying
Apr 10 22:53:09 <coco89> i did undo it :S
Apr 10 22:53:13 <coco89> hmm
Apr 10 22:54:09 <evanc> coco89: instead of programming by guess-and-check, I would suggest you take ten minutes and step through your code and think about what is actually happening
Apr 10 22:54:30 * coco89 is assuming evanc is found the error
Apr 10 22:54:33 <evanc> this isn't a hard problem, you're just coding without thinking and then asking what's wrong (again, without thinking through your problem)
Apr 10 22:54:39 <coco89> okay
Apr 10 22:54:40 <evanc> coco89: I haven't even looked
Apr 10 22:54:41 <coco89> i'll give it a shot
Apr 10 22:54:47 <coco89> :O
Apr 10 22:55:03 <evanc> I haven't looked because you've had the same problem for like 8 hours now
Apr 10 23:00:23 <HorizonXP> ok, so it seems that MediaPlayer has a setSurface method
Apr 10 23:00:33 <HorizonXP> which I can pass a Surface to, which can wrap a SurfaceTexture
Apr 10 23:00:53 <HorizonXP> so potentially, I have a SurfaceTexture of the video frames to use as the source for my GL shader
Apr 10 23:03:17 <HorizonXP> so then I can use a GLSurfaceView to show the output of the shader
Apr 10 23:13:26 <shmooz> looks like coco89 took a crash course ;)
Apr 10 23:14:29 <Chainfire> hmm, removing files from the mediastore (without deleting the files itself) ended up more difficult than I expected ...
Apr 10 23:17:09 * pragma- detests mtp because it never finds the files he wants.
Apr 10 23:17:25 * pragma- just sticks to adb push/pull.
Apr 10 23:17:53 <pragma-> though it seems like in the recent sdk tools update, you can't push/pull entire directories any longer?
Apr 10 23:25:58 <coco89> evanc,
Apr 10 23:26:32 <coco89> I'm still stuck but I know what's giong on
Apr 10 23:27:39 <coco89> So if I uninstall the app, and reinstall I am greeted with the login page as userLoggedIn=false.  When I enter my details, it brings me to the mainActivity and userLoggedIn = true.
Apr 10 23:28:05 <coco89> so I can now unplug and everytime i close and open the app it brings me to the main activity straight away which is great.
Apr 10 23:28:18 <coco89> However, if i rebuild while userLoggedIn is still true...
Apr 10 23:28:29 <coco89> it crashes??...
Apr 10 23:28:31 <coco89> why is this?
Apr 10 23:29:18 <mdkess_> I have a simple linear layout with two EditText - http://ideone.com/d6ezni - one line title, followed by multi-line body section (this is based off of the notepad tutorial, but I've been writing all of the parts on my own). The problem is that with the multiline EditText (noteBodyEditText), multiple lines seem to expand the view causing the top EditText to be pushed off the screen. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
Apr 10 23:29:28 <pragma-> coco89: because stacktrace and logcat
Apr 10 23:32:50 <cbates> you probably did matchParent on the height
Apr 10 23:33:04 <mdkess_> Ah, I needed windowSoftInputMode="adjustResize" on the activity.
Apr 10 23:33:19 <coco89> pragma-, one sec
Apr 10 23:35:15 <coco89> pragma-, http://www.privatepaste.com/56209f6fd7
Apr 10 23:35:57 <coco89> pragma-, logcat http://www.privatepaste.com/00a4144352
Apr 10 23:35:58 <cbates> mdkess_ - I always have this problem, think u need to use the weight
Apr 10 23:36:13 <coco89> it's obvious it's in a loop i just don't understand how a boolean can be both true and false? da fack?
Apr 10 23:36:25 <mdkess_> cbates, tried that, but it was setting android:windowSoftInputMode that did the trick
Apr 10 23:36:42 <mdkess_> adjustResize forces the window to be resized with the soft keyboard
Apr 10 23:37:05 <cbates> thanks, thats actually really good to know
Apr 10 23:37:38 <cbates> the dynamic layouts have been killing me
Apr 10 23:37:49 <cbates> still getting used to everything being dynamic instead of fixed
Apr 10 23:38:34 <evanc> coco89: _actually_ crashes or gets in your infinite loop?
Apr 10 23:38:56 <mdkess_> cbates, yeah it's trixy
Apr 10 23:38:58 <coco89> evanc, it crashes as soon as i build
Apr 10 23:39:04 <coco89> like, freezes
Apr 10 23:39:08 <evanc> coco89: that is not a crash
Apr 10 23:39:12 <evanc> coco89: or a freeze
Apr 10 23:39:20 <coco89> okay well it gets in the loop and the phone spazes out
Apr 10 23:39:47 <evanc> coco89: that logcat tells you everything you need to know to fix this
Apr 10 23:40:05 <evanc> Tag2 has a false value. Look for why
Apr 10 23:40:56 <coco89> i know that tag2 has a false value i'm here to ask why cos they're the same variable
Apr 10 23:40:58 <coco89> :S
Apr 10 23:41:06 <coco89> i didn't know a variable could be both true and false
Apr 10 23:42:03 <capella> until you open the box
Apr 10 23:42:26 <coco89> evanc, if i build when userLoggedIn is already true, it should be false because the userLoggedIn is initialised as false..?
Apr 10 23:42:48 <evanc> coco89: pastebin your current source for both Login and the relevant part of MainActivity
Apr 10 23:42:56 <evanc> (Tag and Tag2)
Apr 10 23:43:35 <capella> Schrödinger's boolean
Apr 10 23:43:40 <coco89> evanc, http://www.privatepaste.com/49b2eeb2d8 - login
Apr 10 23:44:13 <coco89> evanc, http://www.privatepaste.com/a3dab53b58 - main
Apr 10 23:45:07 <evanc> coco89: you _seriously_ need to format your code, man
Apr 10 23:45:23 <coco89> evanc, woops forgot to shift+i
Apr 10 23:46:24 <evanc> coco89: userLoggedIn != userLoggedIn
Apr 10 23:46:49 <coco89> how?
Apr 10 23:46:57 <evanc> coco89: on line 52 there, change "boolean userLoggedIn = " to "userLoggedIn = "
Apr 10 23:47:09 <evanc> also, rethis this design because it's a mess
Apr 10 23:47:15 <evanc> but that should "fix" it
Apr 10 23:48:19 <evanc> but before you make that change, think about the consequences of it: why it would (or would not) fix it, what the edge-cases might be, etc
Apr 10 23:48:45 <capella> and rename the class global as mUserLoggedIn
Apr 10 23:48:46 <coco89> evanc, oh was i initializing another boolean?
Apr 10 23:49:13 <pragma-> "rethis"?
Apr 10 23:49:20 <coco89> i think he meant rethink
Apr 10 23:49:37 <evanc> oops, yes
Apr 10 23:49:42 <evanc> I need to rethis my typing
Apr 10 23:49:54 <coco89> evanc, i'm assuming i was initializing another boolean?
Apr 10 23:50:05 <coco89> capella, why the m?
Apr 10 23:50:08 <evanc> coco89: don't make an assumption
Apr 10 23:50:24 <capella> kind of a convention for a global class member
Apr 10 23:50:29 <evanc> capella: given that it's public static, don't do the "m" prefix
Apr 10 23:50:33 <coco89> capella, ah I see
Apr 10 23:50:36 <pragma-> absorption is the biggest cause of retention
Apr 10 23:51:04 <capella> oh - public - hmm
Apr 10 23:52:46 <capella> thats a whole other discussion
Apr 10 23:59:26 <coco89> so I've now added Login.userLoggedIn = false;
Apr 10 23:59:26 <coco89>  into onClick method which sets the userLoggedIn boolean to false.  I implemented the code to start the login activity but it doesn't appear.  The userLoggedIn log in the login activity displays true while tag2 is false..
Apr 10 23:59:58 <evanc> coco89: I'm not even parsing that because you're not even trying
Apr 11 00:00:06 <evanc> programming by guess-and-check doesn't work
Apr 11 00:00:37 <coco89> but we're now using the same variable
Apr 11 00:00:39 <coco89> mm
Apr 11 00:01:47 <evanc> you said that last time, too
Apr 11 00:02:15 <coco89> evanc, and then we fixed it :)
Apr 11 00:03:37 <evanc> "we"?
Apr 11 00:04:38 <coco89> yeah, we're a team
Apr 11 00:04:44 <coco89> :D
Apr 11 00:06:27 <coco89> but yeah, I guess you did fix it
Apr 11 00:09:55 <coco89> evanc, so am I not using the same variable here :S
Apr 11 00:16:04 <coco89> evanc, i'm sure i'll figure it out, thanks for your help so far man :) i appreciate it
Apr 11 00:17:45 <canadiancow> <coco89> yeah, we're a team
Apr 11 00:17:50 <canadiancow> aww evanc, don't you feel special? :)
Apr 11 00:26:13 <ProgramMax> hey guys
Apr 11 00:26:20 <ProgramMax> where do I look for holding down the menu button
Apr 11 00:26:33 <ProgramMax> I didn't realize you could even do that
Apr 11 00:26:42 <ProgramMax> what callback gets triggered?
Apr 11 00:29:50 <bankai_> to bring up the stack ?
Apr 11 00:34:48 <ProgramMax> well, if I just click the menu button, normally a menu comes up
Apr 11 00:34:54 <ProgramMax> but it turns out you can also hold the menu button
Apr 11 00:34:58 <ProgramMax> which gets a different reaction
Apr 11 00:35:14 <ProgramMax> the app I am supposed to be supporting has a hold-the-menu-button behavior, which I did not know
Apr 11 00:35:17 <ProgramMax> I need to remove it
Apr 11 00:39:09 <canadiancow> like a physical menu button?
Apr 11 00:43:33 <ProgramMax> canadiancow yeah
Apr 11 00:43:41 <ProgramMax> you know that menu button on your device? That one
Apr 11 00:43:44 <canadiancow> and what is it doing that you dont want it to
Apr 11 00:43:49 <canadiancow> my device doesnt have any buttons
Apr 11 00:43:54 <canadiancow> or rather, it has power and volume
Apr 11 00:43:58 <canadiancow> same with my previous device
Apr 11 00:44:01 <ProgramMax> mine has like...hidden buttons
Apr 11 00:44:08 <ProgramMax> like, you know the home button?
Apr 11 00:44:17 <ProgramMax> to the right of it is probably a "back"
Apr 11 00:44:20 <ProgramMax> and to the left is a "menu"
Apr 11 00:44:51 <canadiancow> no
Apr 11 00:45:00 <canadiancow> my buttons are all on screen
Apr 11 00:45:04 <canadiancow> and there is no menu button
Apr 11 00:45:09 <canadiancow> the menu button was deprecated in honeycomb
Apr 11 00:45:09 <ProgramMax> oh kk
Apr 11 00:45:13 <ProgramMax> well, on the screen is fine, too
Apr 11 00:45:24 <ProgramMax> the behavior I have is when I hold the menu button
Apr 11 00:45:28 <ProgramMax> (whether physical or on the screen)
Apr 11 00:48:43 <coco89> I think I know what's wrong
Apr 11 00:48:45 <canadiancow> ...
Apr 11 00:48:47 <coco89> but I don't know how to fix it :)
Apr 11 00:49:28 <coco89> canadiancow, so basically, even if I do Login.userLoggedIn = false;  the shared preference is settings it to true still
Apr 11 00:49:36 <coco89> but the true boolean is still in preferences
Apr 11 00:49:36 <canadiancow> why are you telling me?
Apr 11 00:49:41 <canadiancow> i dont know what you're talking about ~_~
Apr 11 00:49:45 <coco89> :'(
Apr 11 00:51:25 <coco89> canadiancow, this is my login activity http://www.privatepaste.com/fc05b4f888
Apr 11 00:52:13 <coco89> canadiancow, this is my main activity http://www.privatepaste.com/33c0388cb1
Apr 11 00:52:30 <coco89> so basically i'm using sharedpreferences in order to stay logged in when the user quits the application
Apr 11 00:52:40 <coco89> so when i return to the app it goes straight the main activity
Apr 11 00:52:45 <canadiancow> im too busy to read your code
Apr 11 00:52:48 <canadiancow> please stop saying my name
Apr 11 00:52:51 <coco89> oh okay :(
Apr 11 00:52:52 <coco89> sorry
Apr 11 00:52:59 <canadiancow> and i mean that in general
Apr 11 00:53:03 <canadiancow> there is no reason to single anyone out
Apr 11 00:53:09 <canadiancow> just ask questions, and anyone in here will help
Apr 11 00:53:19 <coco89> okay well if anyone's arond
Apr 11 00:54:09 <coco89> the logout button doesn't work, it refreshes the main activity rather than go back to the login page
Apr 11 00:54:28 <coco89> i was wondering how i'd be able to edit the shared preferences thing from a different activity
Apr 11 01:00:37 <g00s> concerning teens; "This suggests something bigger than a shift away from Facebook; it hints at what could be the beginning of an across-the-board teen rejection of traditional social networking as a whole."
Apr 11 01:01:06 <g00s> seems like services doing well are feed-heavy, light on profile? i dunno what that even means ...
Apr 11 01:01:07 <coco89> g00s, hi
Apr 11 01:01:38 <g00s> hi coco89
Apr 11 01:01:56 <coco89> g00s, how do I edit a sharedPreference from a different activity
Apr 11 01:07:40 <xorgate> coco89 like any other, prefs are 'shared'
Apr 11 01:08:05 <g00s> its free love man, prefs for everyone
Apr 11 01:11:05 <coco89> but I can't do Login.perferences ?
Apr 11 01:11:56 <xorgate> preferences are global, theres no such thing as prefs 'on' an activity
Apr 11 01:12:13 <g00s> prefs can be private to an activity
Apr 11 01:12:36 <g00s> or - at least in froyo … ha , i'm so clueless nowadays
Apr 11 01:12:53 <xorgate> i'm not a fan of the ellipsis char in irc
Apr 11 01:13:03 <rburton-> re
Apr 11 01:13:13 <g00s> i'm still in android = froyo/GB + support library
Apr 11 01:14:09 <rburton-> Today I've been seeing interesting stuff in my debugger
Apr 11 01:14:12 <coco89> xorgate, I'm trying to implement this http://www.privatepaste.com/de5fdd5cb4
Apr 11 01:14:29 <coco89> but SharedPreference preferences is initailised in the other activity
Apr 11 01:14:34 <xorgate> coco just get an instance to the prefs in this one
Apr 11 01:14:44 <rburton-> I had an if(condition) and if I executed the condition statement in the epxression, it returns the right value but then it always jumps into the block when it shouldn't ;)
Apr 11 01:14:46 <xorgate> it's ok, really
Apr 11 01:15:07 <coco89> xorgate, how do you mean
Apr 11 01:15:31 <rburton-> I should take a screen shot of the madness
Apr 11 01:15:33 <xorgate> coco89 https://gist.github.com/xorgate/763f00ab86022dec0fb3
Apr 11 01:15:37 <xorgate> is what i use
Apr 11 01:16:14 <xorgate> maybe better with a final static String vs getString
Apr 11 01:16:51 <xorgate> it's just a way for me to keep it the same as what's defined in xml
Apr 11 01:17:30 <xorgate> coco89 you don't need to store the handle to prefs on the actiivty, is what i mean
Apr 11 01:17:55 <xorgate> and if you did, your other activities should always assume they are the only ones instantiated
Apr 11 01:18:30 <coco89> im so confused
Apr 11 01:18:57 <xorgate> coco89 why do you store
Apr 11 01:18:57 <mdkess_> new problem - http://ideone.com/iiahSv - in onActivityResult, getIntent().getExtras() is null, but as far as I can tell I'm setting it properly. Sup wit' dat?
Apr 11 01:19:04 <xorgate> coco89 why do you store 'preferences' on the activity?
Apr 11 01:19:19 <coco89> xorgate, in the login activity?
Apr 11 01:19:26 <xorgate> yes
Apr 11 01:19:43 <xorgate> what makes you think you can't also do it in the other activity
Apr 11 01:19:58 <xorgate> and beyond that, what makes you think you have to?
Apr 11 01:20:14 <mdkess_> Answer: I should be using data.getExtras() instead of getIntent().getExtras().
Apr 11 01:20:34 <coco89> xorgate, because I wanna refer to the same preference so that userLoggedIn would get the correct up to date boolean
Apr 11 01:20:47 <coco89> 	    userLoggedIn = preferences.getBoolean("loggedIn", false);
Apr 11 01:20:52 <xorgate> coco89 and i say they ARE the same thing
Apr 11 01:20:57 <xorgate> they read from the same database
Apr 11 01:21:03 <coco89> xorgate, oh really?
Apr 11 01:22:34 <coco89> xorgate, so if I did what I showed to you and declared that preferences variable like the way I did in the Login activity, it should work?
Apr 11 01:23:33 <coco89> cos I do that and I get a null pointer exception
Apr 11 01:23:36 <xorgate> you know that place i hid that thing that time
Apr 11 01:23:42 <xorgate> idunno what you mean
Apr 11 01:24:10 <xorgate> just make a method to read a pref like i showed you, or more generic
Apr 11 01:24:43 <xorgate> readBoolean(String name, boolean defaultVal) { getPreferences(); return pref }
Apr 11 01:25:00 <xorgate> getSharedPreferences, even
Apr 11 01:25:07 <xorgate> you are overcomplicating
Apr 11 01:27:42 <coco89> xorgate, I need to put a boolean to preferences
Apr 11 01:28:52 <xorgate> read, write.. whats the difference
Apr 11 01:29:55 <coco89> i'd need an editor right?
Apr 11 01:30:25 <xorgate> yup
Apr 11 01:30:37 <coco89> this is the login activity with the sharedPreferences initialised etc http://www.privatepaste.com/fc05b4f888
Apr 11 01:31:29 <coco89> and my main activity which needs to set the preferences in the login activity to false this is done in the onclick method http://www.privatepaste.com/9bb24373bc
Apr 11 01:32:11 <xorgate> ok so why are you seperating getSharedPreferences() from preferences.edit()
Apr 11 01:32:45 <coco89> where in the main activity?
Apr 11 01:33:00 <xorgate> look it's simple. activity1.getSharedPreferences() and activity2.getSharedPreferences() are the same thing
Apr 11 01:33:10 <xorgate> i dont know how to say it more simply
Apr 11 01:33:13 <coco89> ah
Apr 11 01:35:16 <bluesm> Can I query my php script to get JSON data, and then interpret it on Device ?
Apr 11 01:35:36 <xorgate> bluesm of course
Apr 11 01:35:44 <g00s> why do php people always ask that question :|
Apr 11 01:37:07 <bluesm> g00s: I'm not php person. :)
Apr 11 01:37:07 <Fall> ;D
Apr 11 01:37:15 <bluesm> xorgate: Thanks :)
Apr 11 01:37:57 <wabz> I think querying a http resource and interpreting the response data is a pretty unusual thing to do
Apr 11 01:38:15 <wabz> not sure anyone's done that before??
Apr 11 01:38:15 <Leeds> it's an *extremely* common thing to do
Apr 11 01:38:30 <xorgate> <sarcasm sign>
Apr 11 01:38:37 <madprops> lel
Apr 11 01:39:06 <Leeds> but you have to remember that 'php people' have mostly not had experience of writing real software
Apr 11 01:39:23 <wabz> I like it how people try to shoehorn everything on http these days
Apr 11 01:39:23 <rburton-> Isnt't this soooo strange http://picpaste.com/odd-E0IbNFOp.png
Apr 11 01:39:46 <bluesm> I feel like idiot. :]
Apr 11 01:39:50 <rburton-> While debugging on a device, the top part shows the line triggered. Then if I step again, it executes the second return. Only the first return is used.
Apr 11 01:39:55 <rburton-> I never seen this before
Apr 11 01:39:57 <xorgate> ppl who invert their booleans :(((
Apr 11 01:40:12 <canadiancow> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!result
Apr 11 01:40:23 <rburton-> class BurtonBoolean { private boolean state = false }
Apr 11 01:40:23 <rburton-> ;)
Apr 11 01:40:30 <coco89> xorgate, I've change it now http://www.privatepaste.com/c4bc1c9434 but it's still not working.. userLoggedIn is still true :(
Apr 11 01:40:36 <rburton-> Isn't the picture I shared strange for debugging?
Apr 11 01:40:44 <wabz> I like people who use perl's trailling unless on the end of really long lines
Apr 11 01:40:45 <bluesm> Do you know how people cope with "authorisation" to http resources ?
Apr 11 01:41:44 <HorizonXP> so I'm  developing a native library
Apr 11 01:41:59 <HorizonXP> i'm having trouble getting GDB to break inside my functions
Apr 11 01:42:04 <HorizonXP> anyone have a guide?
Apr 11 01:42:04 <rburton-> bluesm you mean security?
Apr 11 01:42:08 <Leeds> bluesm: unfortunately, HTTP has no built-in mechanism for authentication, like HTTP authentication for example
Apr 11 01:42:21 <rburton-> I'm using a cookie and saving it to disk at the moment
Apr 11 01:43:56 <wabz> Leeds: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1945#section-11
Apr 11 01:44:33 <Leeds> wabz: nope, doesn't exist
Apr 11 01:46:09 <coco89> :(
Apr 11 01:46:43 <wabz> what do you mean?
Apr 11 01:47:24 <Leeds> HTTP has no authentication mechanism
Apr 11 01:47:59 <Leeds> if it did, bluesm wouldn't be asking how to do authentication over HTTP...  unless he has never used a website in his life which popped up a login dialog...
Apr 11 01:48:27 <wabz> oh lol
Apr 11 01:48:34 <coco89> guys, why is this not making the sharepreference false?? http://www.privatepaste.com/1fb1d4c2e3
Apr 11 01:48:40 <coco89> in the other activity
Apr 11 01:49:19 <bluesm> rburton-: So I have to create authentication system on sever side. That will check if particular user have permissions.
Apr 11 01:49:40 <rburton-> bluesm: Correct, keep it on the server and never trust the client.
Apr 11 01:49:54 <rburton-> There are many solutions for how to do it on the backend e.g., oauth, etc.
Apr 11 01:50:02 <coco89> anyone? :(
Apr 11 01:52:42 <bankai_> clear, put, commit/apply
Apr 11 01:52:51 <coco89> ?
Apr 11 01:55:38 <coco89> oh my god this thing is fucking retarded
Apr 11 01:56:34 <Leeds> language...
Apr 11 01:56:43 <Leeds> no need for blasphemy ;)
Apr 11 01:57:44 <coco89> yes but I don't understand why this won't add false to the sharedPreference
Apr 11 02:03:51 <ycheng> if I modify something on aosp/framework, how to just rebuild that certain part
Apr 11 02:04:22 <ycheng> and how to only update that certain part to a phone (to do patch testing)
Apr 11 02:05:50 <g00s> ycheng: i think mm / mmm
Apr 11 02:05:59 <g00s> but this isn't my area
Apr 11 02:06:39 <g00s> actually, this channel is application dev
Apr 11 02:07:08 <ycheng> g00s: do you know which channel is for that ?
Apr 11 02:07:53 <g00s> actually, i don't :(
Apr 11 02:07:59 <coco89> guys can someone help?
Apr 11 02:08:24 <g00s> coco89: i think you exhausted all your help for one day
Apr 11 02:08:26 <g00s> :)
Apr 11 02:08:41 <coco89> yeh but this thing is bugging the shit outta me
Apr 11 02:08:49 <ycheng> g00s: thank for your ideas
Apr 11 02:08:53 <g00s> software is hard ;)
Apr 11 02:09:39 <g00s> ycheng: also, there is a new oreilly book out on embedded android
Apr 11 02:09:49 <g00s> probably explains all this stuff
Apr 11 02:09:52 <xorgate> coco89 are you sure you are reading the proper value, i see you changed where you write it
Apr 11 02:10:01 <ycheng> g00s: I am surprising to find that there is no channel with name aosp
Apr 11 02:10:13 <g00s> i think it used to be #android
Apr 11 02:10:27 <g00s> maybe now they just use google groups
Apr 11 02:11:00 <coco89> xorgate, i'm writing it to preferences?
Apr 11 02:11:12 <coco89> xorgate, http://www.privatepaste.com/1fb1d4c2e3
Apr 11 02:11:20 <ycheng> g00s: let me try mm / mmm related command, thanks a lot
Apr 11 02:11:24 <Leeds> there's never really been enough of a critical mass of framework chat for it to happen in realtime on IRC
Apr 11 02:11:30 <xorgate> coco, and reading?
Apr 11 02:11:55 <coco89> xorgate, in the login activity  userLoggedIn = preferences.getBoolean("loggedIn", false);
Apr 11 02:12:19 <xorgate> coco89 your earlier paste had 'PRIVATE' somewhere
Apr 11 02:12:31 <coco89> private? :S
Apr 11 02:12:38 <xorgate> fuck sake
Apr 11 02:12:44 <coco89> xorgate, oh yeh
Apr 11 02:13:06 <coco89> xorgate, http://www.privatepaste.com/81cb8238c1
Apr 11 02:13:22 <xorgate> seems like 2 different things, check that out
Apr 11 02:13:44 <coco89> what are two different things
Apr 11 02:14:14 <Leeds> coco89: hang on - why are you opening one with an explicit filename, and the other as default?
Apr 11 02:16:07 <g00s> coco89: you are using different things
Apr 11 02:16:37 <coco89> what different things
Apr 11 02:16:39 <g00s> use Context.getSharedPreferences
Apr 11 02:16:48 <coco89> ok
Apr 11 02:16:56 <xorgate> lol
Apr 11 02:16:57 <g00s> not getDefaultSharedPreferences from the Preference framework
Apr 11 02:16:59 <xorgate> i need some sleep
Apr 11 02:17:25 <g00s> coco89: did you read this http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/data-storage.html#pref
Apr 11 02:18:46 <coco89> g00s, to an extent
Apr 11 02:18:48 <sc305495> Hey, I have a quick question regarding an intent coming up as null when I try to use it in the activity I pass it to... would anybody be willing to lend me a hand here?
Apr 11 02:18:55 <coco89> i'm reading it again
Apr 11 02:19:05 <g00s> just keep reading it until it clicks ;)
Apr 11 02:19:52 <g00s> coco89: also, grep through ApiDemos
Apr 11 02:19:52 <wiel> anybody have any luck updating a tab when a change occurs?
Apr 11 02:22:34 <sc305495> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15919682/getintent-getstringarrayextra-always-returning-null if you wouldn't mind taking a look for me... It seems trivial but I can't seem to figure out why it is crashing on me.
Apr 11 02:28:00 <alexfu> is there a way to save the entry-values of a list preference to the shared pref instead o the human readable entry strings?
Apr 11 02:28:10 <alexfu> besides saving the values by hand
Apr 11 02:36:30 <bankai_> coco89: do you already have that value in your shared prefs?
Apr 11 02:41:26 <mobydev> anyone in here with GCM experience ?
Apr 11 02:41:53 <mobydev> I was wondering what to do when messages arrive late or not at all
Apr 11 02:49:38 <pfn> mobydev, wait a reasonable amount of time and try again; if it still doesn't work, then remove the registration
Apr 11 02:49:57 <pfn> ugh, it's so hot in my office
Apr 11 02:56:23 <pragma-> remove your pants
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