**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Apr 20 02:59:57 2013 Apr 20 03:06:23 so ona touch, i understand a callback to onTouchEvent() happens several times, so if i want to look at all these touch events, do I need to make new threads as I receive them? Apr 20 04:52:38 hi guys I am new to android development, I need to know how to display text after a list item is clicked. Apr 20 04:52:57 I need to display different sets of paragraphs for each list item. Apr 20 04:53:13 I have gone through the following tutorial so far: vhttp://www.androidhive.info/2011/10/android-listview-tutorial/http://www.androidhive.info/2011/10/android-listview-tutorial/ Apr 20 04:53:38 but not sure how to store all the text I will be displaying and how to link it to an intent Apr 20 04:55:10 am I in the right chat room? Apr 20 04:55:32 yeah Apr 20 04:55:37 kinda empty friday nights tho Apr 20 04:56:05 oh ok, I would have thought there would be heaps of activity on an android activity Apr 20 04:56:16 where else would be a good place to get help? Apr 20 04:56:24 the web or this Apr 20 04:56:41 ok cool, hopefully someone can help here then :) Apr 20 04:56:43 specify what this means: displaying text after the click? Apr 20 04:56:59 you want a new screen to show up containing the paragraph after the user clicks the item in the listview? Apr 20 04:57:12 yes that's right Apr 20 04:57:29 how much data are you talking about? Apr 20 04:57:39 are you making something like a bible browser? Apr 20 04:57:46 about three paragraphs Apr 20 04:57:53 no i mean, all the data Apr 20 04:57:55 what is a bible browser? Apr 20 04:57:57 how long is the listview? Apr 20 04:58:04 err how many elements would it contain? Apr 20 04:58:06 about 100 list items Apr 20 04:58:26 i would recomend you figure out how to set up a sqlite table that contains all your data Apr 20 04:58:29 and each list time would lead to a new screen with unique content Apr 20 04:58:58 then you can simply after the list item is clicked, fire off the intent with the write lookup information, and display that in the new screen Apr 20 04:59:27 also, you can use fragments instead of distinct activities Apr 20 04:59:35 perfect that sounds great, so you know of any tutorials or samples which can show me how to do that? Apr 20 04:59:51 what are fragments? Apr 20 05:00:03 fragments are like reusable units of UI Apr 20 05:00:13 I see Apr 20 05:00:39 fragments typically live in an activity, and behave much the same functions Apr 20 05:00:54 but instead of starting a new activity, you can just swap out the fragment Apr 20 05:01:31 ok, I had no idea about that. Apr 20 05:02:22 i can't find my bookmarks, but just task yourself with understanding sqlite basics for android, build your table and then pull data from it Apr 20 05:02:44 then the other half is just figuring out how to launch intents with proper lookup information or doing fragments which isn't too difficult Apr 20 05:02:55 i got to go for a bit, google around you should be able to figure it out Apr 20 05:03:07 ok thanks, I will look into it :) Apr 20 05:13:36 im confused how the java execution runs Apr 20 05:13:53 in this example, http://xjaphx.wordpress.com/2011/06/13/detect-xy-coordinates-when-clicking-or-touching-on-screen/ i know what line 11-13 does Apr 20 05:14:11 but the touch detection lines 17 onward seem like they would need a while loop to detect touches Apr 20 05:14:15 is that not necessary? Apr 20 05:22:08 these cheap archos phones would be cool … if they came with 4.2 :| Apr 20 05:30:22 Hey Guys I am making an app which has a list view similar to this:http://www.androidhive.info/2011/10/android-listview-tutorial/ and I want to extend it so the when I click on a list item an intent is launched which retrieves data from a SQlite database and displays it in a new display. Can anyone point me to some useful resources or guide me? I am not familiar with SQlite either Apr 20 05:33:08 ? Apr 20 06:16:23 if i pass intent from A to B. then appended extra data to this intent inside B and then pass this new intent to C will i be able to access data sent by A from C? Apr 20 06:16:28 help please Apr 20 06:27:49 Hi, Is there any way to capture a screen video (i want to record myself playing a game) without rooting the phone? Apr 20 06:28:27 theres a company that does an app like that for ios, i think they have one in beta for android Apr 20 06:29:03 https://everyplay.com/ Apr 20 06:29:40 others exist too naturally Apr 20 06:30:40 if i pass intent from A to B. then appended extra data to this intent inside B and then pass this new intent to C will i be able to access data sent by A from C? Apr 20 06:31:04 deebo, any downloadeable ones? Apr 20 06:47:36 wow, an iOS internals book Apr 20 06:47:48 oops, wrong chan :| Apr 20 06:59:28 ? Apr 20 07:02:48 :) Apr 20 07:17:12 Anyone else getting a Galaxy S4 for OpenGL ES 3? Apr 20 07:17:31 wow, it has ES 3 ? Apr 20 07:18:04 The Snapdragon 600 variant will be the first phone to push the drivers capable of it Apr 20 07:53:54 has anyone ever encountered a SIGBUS exception, with a code of 1 (BUS_ADRALN) ? Apr 20 08:40:46 how to replace fragA with fragB in ViewPager? so far it does not work accordingly to this http://developer.android.com/training/basics/fragments/fragment-ui.html#Replace Apr 20 08:41:25 dont you do that in the getview on the viewpager? Apr 20 08:41:39 err that's a fragment viewpager Apr 20 08:42:29 lasserix: viewpager in ActivityA Apr 20 08:44:27 found some answers from http://stackoverflow.com/ but still cannot find proper one Apr 20 08:46:00 Are you making a view pager when you should be making a fragment pager is what i meant Apr 20 08:49:29 oh kamol you probably have to invalidate the viewpager data set Apr 20 08:50:06 since swapping out the fragment in the layout won't cause the viewpager adapter to automatically update, if you have to invalidate the dataset backing the view pager adapter when you want to replace frag A with frag B Apr 20 08:50:07 lasserix: do you have some sample code? or some link? Apr 20 08:50:31 http://tamsler.blogspot.com/2011/10/android-viewpager-and-fragments.html Apr 20 08:50:37 it' Apr 20 08:50:45 it's like a viewpager except the getview returns fragments Apr 20 08:51:29 ic, seems lovely example! Apr 20 08:52:04 maybe that's not what you want though: but again, the reason i believe it is not working for you right now is because the adapter of your viewpager needs to be told to invalidate/notifydatasetchanged, since replacing fragA with B is actually changing the underlying data set that the view pager adapter is working with Apr 20 08:52:25 it's like changing the data backing a listview and expecting the listview to magically update itself Apr 20 08:52:51 lasserix: got it! Apr 20 08:53:03 cool hopefully one of those will work out for you :) Apr 20 08:53:08 lasserix: Thanks a lot! Apr 20 08:57:35 Hi Apr 20 08:57:39 Hu Apr 20 08:57:41 Hi Apr 20 08:58:27 hi, what does the backend of a multiplayer game look like? Something that gathers 2 or more players into a room and sync the results at the end Apr 20 08:58:48 after all the players finish playing Apr 20 08:59:40 If i have a service that calculate points usimg gps and then appear in my activity each second, which is the best way to communicate? Service sends to activity ir activity request to the service? Apr 20 09:27:03 What files in "bin" folders mean ? Apr 20 09:28:01 they are usually binary executables... Apr 20 09:28:35 maraz: But there is one "myAppName-debu.apk" ,.. But what are the others files ? Apr 20 09:36:45 Hey is it possible to see if the user is running TouchWiz or for example HTC Sense. This is might be useful when debugging the app Apr 20 09:47:11 Can i read my shared preferences in the service if i change some pref in the activity which create the service? Apr 20 09:48:00 sure Apr 20 10:22:45 anyone using vim for android and can tell me their setup? :) Apr 20 10:41:44 When I had the only "values-pl" the string shown in my app was Apr 20 10:42:02 @2130968577 Apr 20 10:42:06 what does it mean ? Apr 20 10:48:31 can you contextualize Apr 20 10:52:28 I am unable to play a video from a stream received from a socket with MediaPlayer. I am having similar problem as described here. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5287798/live-video-stream-between-two-android-phones is there any solution? Apr 20 10:54:53 lasserix: I had only values-pl with strings.xml (and witaj ) Apr 20 10:55:21 and then I called @string/hello in my layout which I then used in my default activity. Apr 20 10:55:35 And instead of this word I get @2130968577 Apr 20 10:57:41 oh weird Apr 20 11:00:28 Maybe your locale isn't set to pl Apr 20 11:00:47 Always put some defaults in values/ Apr 20 11:02:36 Hi, I have an issue I'm struggling to solve with google... I have an activity that starts a service with startService(). The service creates a thread that every 5 seconds creates a TCP socket, sends some data, then disconnects. This runs fine when the activity is up. If I hit the home button I start getting ConnectionException, ECONNREFUSED in my logs, for the service. When I open the app activity the service starts connecting again Apr 20 11:03:02 Is there an additional permission or something I need to make socket connections from the background? Apr 20 11:06:57 SimonVT: hows it going? Apr 20 11:13:22 What is R.string.hello_world ? String ? Apr 20 11:13:58 bluesm: a identifier to a string resource stored normally in res/values/strings.xml Apr 20 11:14:27 Napalm: What is the "identifier" I mean what it is the kind of object ? Apr 20 11:14:36 int Apr 20 11:14:39 All good :) Figuring out gson Apr 20 11:14:54 done that and got the t-shirt Apr 20 11:14:59 SimonVT: Right. My defaults are not pl. Apr 20 11:15:10 SimonVT: But I wonder what does it mean - > : @2130968577 Apr 20 11:15:19 gson is pretty nice, think i might prefer jackson Apr 20 11:15:43 Napalm: So where android keeps my "values" ? Apr 20 11:15:56 That's probably the int value of @string/blah or something Apr 20 11:15:58 Napalm: Is this "int" is the pointer to something ? Apr 20 11:16:48 bluesm: 2130968577 is the value of the int the "@" means its a reference and the decimal values hex is 0x7f040001 which you can search for in your gen/R.java and you will see its name Apr 20 11:17:41 bluesm: the int is an identifier its opaque and you should not treat it any other way, it can change at anytime, the platform doesnt garnetee guarantee its format Apr 20 11:18:36 bluesm: in this case 0x "7f" = app resource "04" == string resource "0001" == string index 1 Apr 20 11:27:12 regarding earlier question, it really helps if you remember to close your Sockets when you're done with them. crisis averted. Apr 20 11:29:38 arctanx, also, watch out for TIMED_WAIT sockets :) Apr 20 11:34:34 Napalm: So I can't have more than ffff (hex) or 65535 (dec) strings ? :P Apr 20 11:35:36 bluesm: not necessarily, as i said they are opque, they probably decrement the top 7f Apr 20 11:35:41 and bucket it Apr 20 11:36:05 opaque Apr 20 11:36:19 as in its value doesnt matter Apr 20 11:36:28 its out of your control Apr 20 11:43:46 Napalm: Ok. "Android Compiler" takes my xml resource files. Categorize it in R class to different types (layout, string) . Assign the "name" of variable as name of variable (sth) in particular class (for example R.string). And then assign it the number. Apr 20 11:45:12 Napalm: This is the index in "app database" ? Apr 20 11:49:47 hmm Apr 20 11:49:52 perhaps this is too generic Apr 20 11:49:53 public abstract class Node, V extends Visitor> implements Iterable>, Visitable> Apr 20 12:01:46 bluesm: no, its an index into your apk's binary resource file .arsc which is a compilation of all your apps resources Apr 20 12:13:03 How does Android night mode work? Does it use the light sensor to detect if it is dark or does it use the time? Apr 20 12:29:30 Marlinc: no idea how the system dectects this Apr 20 12:29:51 Marlinc: you can also use the GPS to get the sun's position Apr 20 12:30:43 Well I might integrate it to give a eye friendly version for the night Apr 20 12:30:47 Or well when its dark Apr 20 12:31:01 So I might use the light sensor instead of the time of the day Apr 20 12:31:11 Because you can have a light on at night Apr 20 12:32:23 yeah the "nightvison" button is no eye candy ;) Apr 20 12:41:36 anybody aound here with andrid printing experience? Apr 20 12:41:55 there are some nice bluetooth printers available and i wonder what reporting engine would fit best Apr 20 12:42:36 Napalm: So this .arsc file is kind of my database ? Apr 20 12:42:56 if you want to think of it like that, but its not a database Apr 20 13:01:46 hey, anybody ever partecipated a android hackathon ? I'm putting together a group of college mates for it and I'm looking for some tip to be ready for the competition Apr 20 13:02:36 sounds like sex without girls ;) Apr 20 13:02:50 ? Apr 20 13:05:22 I'm trying to get also some information on how to make the difference when developing an application for android, like what it makes it "professional", we're following a general course on android development but we haven't any idea about real commmercial products development Apr 20 13:07:21 how far is that problem android specific? Apr 20 13:08:18 uhm, it is about android devlopment ? Apr 20 13:08:28 SimonVT: you about? Apr 20 13:08:43 how to hack vs how to do software engeneering/ALM/Scrum/... Apr 20 13:09:07 you can do that with android, visual basic, html, software documentation, php ... Apr 20 13:09:08 monsti: oh I see what you're saying...hackathon is not about hacking Apr 20 13:10:02 monsti: hackathon is a common way to call a nonstop competition, like 36h of programming Apr 20 13:10:18 yeah that's the sex with out girls part i wrote ;) Apr 20 13:11:23 monsti, I think you can cut out the the sex references before it sparks someone up :) Apr 20 13:11:44 monsti: I didn't get the joke Apr 20 13:12:00 Eit8, I don't think I understand what you're trying to ask. Apr 20 13:12:13 (I've participated and organized a few hackathons myself) Apr 20 13:12:22 lut4rp: basically I'm looking for some professional advice Apr 20 13:12:30 On? Apr 20 13:12:34 finally thank you Google! Apr 20 13:12:54 i see bleeding edge support library with ActionBar and SlidingPaneLayout Apr 20 13:12:57 yay! Apr 20 13:13:06 Napalm, :o Apr 20 13:13:13 https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/support/+/master/appcompat Apr 20 13:13:18 https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/support/+/master/v4/java/android/support/v4/widget/SlidingPaneLayout.java Apr 20 13:13:23 lut4rp: on how to make the difference, a part for the pure coding part Apr 20 13:14:07 Eit8, Hm. For design, the official design guidelines set a pretty professional tone for someone new to writing Android apps. Apr 20 13:14:39 For the code, we usually had a few mentors going around all the tables, answering questions and suggesting good architectural practices. Apr 20 13:14:46 lut4rp: our professor told us we should get into the team some designer and someone able to do the managment part Apr 20 13:15:15 Perhaps you could follow one of the training courses. Apr 20 13:15:28 The ones here - http://developer.android.com/training/index.html Apr 20 13:15:40 lut4rp: I'll look into it Apr 20 13:15:46 Eit8, good luck :) Apr 20 13:16:49 hi Apr 20 13:17:01 lut4rp: was you on the jury of the hackathon or what ? Apr 20 13:17:08 why my service didn't appear as a service in my aplications running? Apr 20 13:17:14 only appears a process Apr 20 13:17:26 Eit8, I have been, yes Apr 20 13:18:11 i do this: bindService(new Intent(this, Service.class), mConnection, Context.BIND_AUTO_CREATE); Apr 20 13:18:16 Napalm: Where I can find this .arsc ? Apr 20 13:18:16 lut4rp: so what were your criteria while evaluation applications ? Apr 20 13:18:28 bluesm: APKs are zip files.. open one up Apr 20 13:18:56 Eit8, design, polish, smoothness, what the goal was, how much was accomplished etc. Apr 20 13:20:23 lut4rp: I'm mostly interested on stuff not code related because I'm afraid our team will be mostly general java / android coders Apr 20 13:21:29 my service is destroyed when i close my activity that binds it Apr 20 13:21:56 can old api below 11 render date & time picker in any way? Apr 20 13:23:34 help Apr 20 13:23:42 Eit8, Then you can code lesser priority while judging. Apr 20 13:23:46 can give* Apr 20 13:25:00 lut4rp: I'm partecipating, I'm looking to information to fill skill gaps that we may have Apr 20 13:25:11 Napalm: Thank you very much :) For you time :) Apr 20 13:25:46 If I rotate screen the layout should change to layout-land ? Apr 20 13:26:07 If I have layout/main.xml and layout-land/main.xml Apr 20 13:26:16 and setContentView(R.layout.main); ? Apr 20 13:26:50 how can i destroy an activity and not the service? Apr 20 13:27:11 bindservice vs startservice Apr 20 13:27:30 can old api below 11 render date & time picker in any way? Apr 20 13:28:06 Abhijit: at least you can use https://github.com/SimonVT/android-numberpicker Apr 20 13:28:18 hi I am having issues playing streaming video with a MediaPlayer Apr 20 13:28:24 can anyone help me out? Apr 20 13:29:05 I am trying exactly like the following http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5287798/live-video-stream-between-two-android-phones Apr 20 13:29:58 Quacked, how can i add if condition in layout so that it will show datepicker only if os version >=11 Apr 20 13:30:52 Socket socket = new Socket(IP,PORT); mMediaPlayer = new MediaPlayer(); pfd = ParcelFileDescriptor.fromSocket(socket); mMediaPlayer.setDataSource(pfd.getFileDescriptor()); mMediaPlayer.start(); Apr 20 13:34:25 can anyone help me out? Apr 20 13:36:15 Abhijit: if ( Build.VERSION. SDK_INT >= Build.VERSION_CODES... ) { Apr 20 13:36:56 Quacked, i know. but will it work in layout xml? Apr 20 13:37:10 nah Apr 20 13:37:18 you cant do conditions in xml Apr 20 13:37:24 ok Apr 20 13:37:49 Abhijit and Quacked, experienced in android mediaplayer stuff? Apr 20 13:38:35 Abhijit: but if you use the library on the link I pasted the numberpicker also works for older builds Apr 20 13:39:08 doctorkira, nah Apr 20 13:39:38 Quacked, maybe but that will need me to learn how to use it Apr 20 13:39:49 damn Apr 20 13:42:34 how can i keep my service running with the activity destroyed ? Apr 20 13:45:17 joker_89: what about activity.dismiss() ? Apr 20 13:45:23 that shuoldnt kill the service Apr 20 13:49:07 i am using startService() only if service is not started and afther bindService(). And i stop the service with a unBindService() without a stopService() Apr 20 13:56:48 can i use: startService()->BindService()-> unBindService()-> StopService()? Apr 20 14:06:01 How can I hide status bar on 2.3 ? Apr 20 14:06:44 is it true that there are no in-app purchases in android apps? Apr 20 14:07:48 lseactuary: http://developer.android.com/google/play/billing/billing_overview.html Apr 20 14:08:17 ah ok cool so there is :) Apr 20 14:08:55 do you know where it says how much i have to pay them? Apr 20 14:10:30 hi, is there someone with Qt5 on android experience here? Apr 20 14:10:42 lseactuary: start here: http://developer.android.com/training/in-app-billing/index.html Apr 20 14:14:27 greetings guys. I am working with GCM, curious if there is a way when I receive a notifications if I can determine if the app is in the foreground or not. If it is I would like to show a simple alert box, if it is not I would like to show a notification. Is there a way to get this information from context? Apr 20 14:15:17 rescue9 - it doesnt say how much i end up paying Apr 20 14:15:53 lseactuary: there are a number of links associated there my friend. You have to do some footwork. I don't remember exactly where the pay structure was located. Apr 20 14:16:39 ye i looked i cant see it anywhere Apr 20 14:16:45 but ill keep looking Apr 20 14:16:46 :) Apr 20 14:17:14 http://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/112622?hl=en Apr 20 14:17:15 correct? Apr 20 14:18:18 I was just looking at that. Apr 20 14:18:27 Hi, Is there any way to capture a screen video (i want to record myself playing a game) without rooting the phone? Apr 20 14:18:29 not sure if that is for in-app as well though Apr 20 14:19:19 anyone? Apr 20 14:19:38 Rescue9: google transaction fee in-app android Apr 20 14:19:54 "The standard 30% transaction fee applies to in-app transactions on Google Play" Apr 20 14:20:09 kewl... get that lseactuary/ Apr 20 14:20:11 ? Apr 20 14:20:16 thanks Quacked Apr 20 14:20:33 right, that was for lseactuary Apr 20 14:21:22 finally figured out my AlarmManager problem! The alarms were firing early. Apr 20 14:21:51 I was calling Calendar nextAlarm = Calendar.getInstance(); from the class. When I moved it directly into the method it fired right on time. Apr 20 14:22:21 I would have thought the method would have grabbed the correct variable when it fired, but this didn't prove to be the case. Apr 20 14:23:30 Can I write down all the member variables from object ? Apr 20 14:23:46 Say from android.os.Build.VERSION_CODES ? Apr 20 14:26:01 How android could have names of future versions ? Apr 20 14:26:05 I mean this if (Build.VERSION.SDK_INT >= Build.VERSION_CODES.HONEYCOMB) ... Apr 20 14:29:32 bluesm: if it helps, it's very likely that the next release will be API level 18 Apr 20 14:33:14 grr Apr 20 14:33:17 this is annoying Apr 20 14:34:07 there has to be a way to determine, from a service, if the related app is in the foreground Apr 20 14:35:30 there's a way: your activity can simply notify it is in the foreground/background in onResume/onPause Apr 20 14:35:47 bubbleguuum: yeah, trying to avoid that Apr 20 14:36:01 i gotta believe Google thought of this scenario when they introduced GCM Apr 20 14:36:19 Leeds: Eeem Apr 20 14:36:34 Leeds: Build.VERSION_CODES.HONEYCOMB (honeycomb) Apr 20 14:36:51 Leeds: I wonder about this name of variable... Apr 20 14:36:59 (or rather constant) Apr 20 14:37:09 why do you wonder? Apr 20 14:37:33 bubbleguuum: sadly, all I am finding is what you suggested Apr 20 14:37:58 that's actually very simple Apr 20 14:39:07 bubbleguuum: I agree, but every other platform (Win8, WinPhone, and iPhone) have dedicated handlers depending on state Apr 20 14:40:09 bluesm: what is there to wonder about? Apr 20 14:40:58 xximjasonxx: services can run without any Activity...why would there be something special ? Apr 20 14:41:18 Leeds: HONEYCOMB is api 11. (I have api 10) so when my software was released, they should know what is the name of following version of system... Apr 20 14:41:22 bubbleguuum: hrmm, I always thought the activity and service were tired together Apr 20 14:41:28 same memory space if I recall Apr 20 14:41:39 the activity portion just might not be running Apr 20 14:42:15 a BroadcastReceiver can also start a Service, without any Activity Apr 20 14:42:33 bluesm: firstly, you should build against a newer SDK... secondly, it's not unusual for there to be update releases of SDKs, and if API10 was updated after honeycomb was published... Apr 20 14:43:01 also... the world will be better when everyone just agrees to pretend that honeycomb didn't really happen :) Apr 20 14:43:19 bubbleguuum: so the user can open an activity, which could then start a service, finish the activity and the service will continue to run Apr 20 14:43:20 ?? Apr 20 14:43:36 yes of course Apr 20 14:43:58 interesting, that differs front the understanding I had Apr 20 14:44:12 well actually, no it doesnt Apr 20 14:44:12 that's sort of the whole point of a service Apr 20 14:44:13 :) Apr 20 14:44:24 Leeds: What was wrong with honeycomb ? Apr 20 14:44:31 it works the same way on Windows Phone and iPhone Apr 20 14:44:31 with startService() Apr 20 14:44:56 bluesm: the design... the devices... the lack of source... the dead-end-ness... Apr 20 14:45:00 the OS seems to know whether the app (activity in this case) is actually displayed in the foreground and will handle the incoming notification approrpriately Apr 20 14:45:26 in fact, what you are describing is probably what iOS and Windows are doing under the hood, you just have to do it manually with Android Apr 20 14:45:55 xximjasonxx: it'll be helpful if you realise that an activity and a service are both just components of an app Apr 20 14:46:14 Leeds: I understand that perfectly :) I thought for a moment that bubbleguuum was saying something different Apr 20 14:46:20 ah, ok Apr 20 14:46:27 Leeds: I think the reason is because of the Intent model Apr 20 14:47:09 xximjasonxx: if you want your Activity do something special when something happens in your service, one way to do it is to have your Service send an Intent and register/unregister a BroadcastReceiver in onResume/onPause of your activity Apr 20 14:48:02 bubbleguuum: not really anything special in this case. Basically I am using the GCM framework within my app to receive Cloud messages. The receiver is a native Google component, but the IntentService is a custom implementation based on the standard GCMBaseIntentService class Apr 20 14:48:37 I just want to display an alert box for the cloud message (push notification) if the app is visible, otherwise invoke the Notification Manager Apr 20 14:49:07 your explanation is helping me realize why Google had to take a slightly different approach from everyone else when it came to handling these notifications Apr 20 14:49:30 my ndk doesn't seem to have cutils ... i have some piece of code that includes cutils ... do i need to install something separately? Apr 20 14:50:21 xximjasonxx: why not simply use a notification in both cases (for simplicity) ? Apr 20 14:50:38 bubbleguuum: this app is for a demo, I would like the demos to be consistent Apr 20 14:50:40 alert boxes = baaaad Apr 20 14:51:31 bubbleguuum: frankly I was more surprised the GCMBaseIntentService didn't abstract this logic for determining whether the related app was visible or not. I agree that the check itself is straightforward, but this is a determination I think would be better left to the OS to make Apr 20 14:52:17 I don't think so, GCM only notify your app of something. It is up to you to handle it for whatever purpose Apr 20 14:53:40 bubbleguuum: so you would rather write static methods into your activities to be checked rather than have the OS simply tell you, I received a notification for an app that is in the foreground? Apr 20 14:53:50 weird Apr 20 14:54:37 xximjasonxx: messaging systems such as GCM do not care about UIs Apr 20 14:55:44 I agree, but at the same time, there is often a UI component associated with a remote message. When both APNS, MPNS, and WNS make this distinction I find it somewhat odd that Google does not follow suite. Just my opinion Apr 20 14:59:34 xximjasonxx: anyway, one of the simplest way is to have your Service send an intent on reception of that message and have whatever component (Activities) that registerered a BoradcastReceiver, process it Apr 20 14:59:35 but bubbleguuum, quite seriously, thank you for your insight Apr 20 15:17:40 I have a number of intents being caught by a couple broadcast receivers. I need to see which intents fire for testing. Currently, I'm sysout'ing the intents that I catch specifically (sysout(intent.getAction().toString());) Apr 20 15:18:20 however.... how can I catch all intents? when I try to sysout 'before' an intent is thrown I get a nullPointerException. Apr 20 15:19:07 so how can I get an activity to respond to an intent being broadcasted? Apr 20 15:24:48 let me rephrase my question.... is it possible to catch an alarmmanager intent? Apr 20 15:26:01 Need to pass parameters from FragA to FragB. If a good idea to send all params as one object? Apr 20 15:26:02 Rescue9: yes, just need to define a receiver to catch the intent Apr 20 15:27:49 xximjasonxx: I've got that much... what I don't know is the definition of the intent I'm trying to catch. for ex: screen off is Intent.ACTION_SCREEN_OFF. I can't figure out which definition is associated with alarm manager intents Apr 20 15:28:16 Rescue9: I mean this in a nice way, check the docs, I am sure Android lists what the intent being broadcast is Apr 20 15:30:47 I'm out Apr 20 15:30:49 xximjasonxx: I did. :-D else I wouldn't ask the question. I believe all intents are listed here. I don't find any associated with the Alarm Manager Apr 20 15:30:54 thanks again to bubbleguuum Apr 20 15:31:00 peace xximjasonxx Apr 20 15:31:02 one second Apr 20 15:31:28 has anyone had the soft keyboard close as soon as it pops up? Apr 20 15:32:16 yea... had that bug once with an app. it didn't want to accept input in landscape, but when I rotated it the keyboard stayed. Apr 20 15:32:27 Think it was the new teamspeak beta that it happened with. Apr 20 15:32:40 Rescue9: check this? http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/Intent.html Apr 20 15:33:09 yea. sorry. meant to send that link when I responded. Apr 20 15:33:27 got nothing then :( good luck Apr 20 15:33:31 only 'alarm intent' EXTRA_ALARM_COUNT Apr 20 15:33:38 thanks man... no worries Apr 20 15:52:14 in as3 i can just make a class, put it in the package with my other stuff, then call to it. do i need to put all my classes in the manifest or something? Apr 20 16:17:40 joep, you have to put all classes that extend Activity in the manifest. Apr 20 16:19:54 it doesnt extent activity tho Apr 20 16:19:58 joep, you also have to include certain other classes that inherit from Android components in the manifest - like services, broadcast receivers and content providers. Apr 20 16:20:17 yea its a broadcast receiver i think Apr 20 16:20:26 class taht gets UDP data Apr 20 16:20:38 joep, Broadcast Receivers go in the Manifest Apr 20 16:24:16 http://pastebin.com/et0gAfc7 Apr 20 16:24:20 is the class Apr 20 16:24:29 googling how to add it to manifest Apr 20 16:27:07 joep, if it doesn't import android.content.BroadcastReceiver it is probably not a BR Apr 20 16:29:22 oh Apr 20 16:29:38 hm Apr 20 16:30:09 ReceiveUDP(); in my main class throws an error, hmmm Apr 20 16:50:01 does android have a statement in the tos talking about the reverse engineering of a free application? Apr 20 17:04:07 some computing terms get lost in translation http://translate.google.com/#en/la/virtual%20machine Apr 20 17:09:54 brx_: thats really strange. I would have expected that latin has an own word for virtual machine ;) Apr 20 17:10:44 timroes: made me giggle that one Apr 20 17:21:18 hi, my ndk based app crashes on launch in AVD for Nexus S, it dies with SIGILL at a location which when disassembled, stands for - e30f1fff movw r1, #65535. Apr 20 17:21:53 i believe that it means that i have compiled my libs for the wrong arch? how can fix this? Apr 20 17:22:33 MOVW is ARMv7 only Apr 20 17:23:13 Nexus S is Cortex-A8 which is ARMv7 Apr 20 17:23:22 Dunno why it is throwing a sigill Apr 20 17:24:26 Maybe QEMU is being derpy when it comes to MOVW and Cortex-A8 bala? Apr 20 17:26:47 Sonicadvance1: i see. would you suggest any way to get around this? Apr 20 17:41:20 So loadUrl() closes the soft keyboard! Is there any workaround, some way to inhibit it from closed? Couldn't find anything useful on SO or anywhere Apr 20 17:41:22 bala, I've no idea, I haven't used AVD Apr 20 17:43:33 konr: not sure loadUrl() closes keybaord, more the contex/focus inside a view alters so the keyboard is not need Apr 20 17:43:43 then the keybaord would close Apr 20 17:47:17 Sonicadvance1: thank you! i tried running it on a Samsung Galaxy S5830, and i get the same error Apr 20 17:48:04 bala, Could be you got the wrong instruction, could be one before or after the PC Apr 20 17:48:22 could very well be a VFP instruction Apr 20 17:48:43 Wait, that phone is ARMv6 Apr 20 17:48:54 bala, You should probably just compile for ARMv6 Apr 20 17:49:31 does android do memory wear leveling? Apr 20 17:49:46 Throw a -march=armv6 in to your gcc build options bala Apr 20 17:50:14 https://www.facebook.com/video/embed?video_id=4969565433241 Apr 20 17:51:13 Sonicadvance1: will do. thanks again! Apr 20 17:53:06 bala, I think you can have Android support multiple arch shared libraries by throwing them in different folders in the libs/ folder as well. I haven't done it so I don't know how well it works. Thinking your may want people with more powerful/newer phones getting better performance Apr 20 17:56:19 Sonicadvance1: i see, a "universal binary" sort of approach. at the moment, i am trying to get Qt5 working on android. i will be very happy just to get one sample running somewhere :) Apr 20 18:07:17 is it possible to refer to the length of an array defined in a resource file from a resource file? Apr 20 18:07:45 something like "@array/myarray.length", is it possible? Apr 20 18:07:51 nope Apr 20 18:07:56 :( Apr 20 18:08:05 that kinda sucks. thanks SimonVT. Apr 20 18:14:52 okay, then. Apr 20 18:26:04 Hello, devs, I have one simple question – is it possible to make proper update.zip just by editing existing update.zip for my ROM? (editing dir/file structure outside META-INF and editing updater-script in META-INF) Apr 20 18:26:54 (and not editing update-binary because I don't understand a char in there) Apr 20 18:26:54 Or is there any simple tool? Apr 20 18:31:51 in that case, is it possible to change the size of my ListView in order to accomodate all the displayed items? Apr 20 18:35:50 You don't usually resize scrollable containers based on the content.. That's why they're scrollable Apr 20 18:37:00 +1 Apr 20 18:38:11 SimonVT: sure, of course. what if I have my ListView inside a ScrollView, in which case I'd like it to be nonscrollable and resize according to the content? Apr 20 18:38:18 or am I going the totally wrong way here? Apr 20 18:38:43 Yeah, don't put a listview in a scrollview Apr 20 18:40:34 sounds liek my old TL Apr 20 18:40:44 LET'S USE THREE LISTVIEWS, AND PUT THEM INSIDE A SCROLLVIEW Apr 20 18:41:42 SimonVT: what do I use instead? Apr 20 18:42:08 That really depends on what you're trying to achieve Apr 20 18:42:34 SimonVT: I want the user to have a list of choices, and be able to choose one of them. Apr 20 18:42:38 the list is defined at compile time. Apr 20 18:43:03