**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 25 02:59:59 2013 Apr 25 03:02:33 StingRay_, it would probably take too long... =( Apr 25 03:02:33 gotta finish this up in the next two weeks, and there is more to do beyond this Apr 25 03:03:11 so stuck and being desperate, in a paused state, or progress with something else ? hmmm Apr 25 03:03:31 is it not a good lib then ? this graphView ? Apr 25 03:09:57 i would say definitely not Apr 25 03:10:10 since the demo code doesn't even work like the youtube video does Apr 25 03:18:14 StingRay_, it would take me too long to learn how to implement this myself, and i don't think the other recommended graphing libs do dynamic graphs (required) Apr 25 03:26:12 Hey guys, how do I center action buttons in the Notification? Apr 25 04:30:29 Does anyone know if there is a FreeBSD android SDK ? Apr 25 04:31:31 doubt it Apr 25 04:31:45 not out of the question I would think Apr 25 04:31:52 but not an easy task Apr 25 04:35:11 a lot of it's java Apr 25 04:35:23 have you tried the linux version? Apr 25 04:36:58 Aren't there a lot of FreeBSD <-> Linux tools? Apr 25 04:56:19 if i wanted to make an app accessable to other apps through an intent filter, to say save a url and description (which is already part of the app) how do I go about doing this? Apr 25 05:13:28 whats a good synonym for data structure? Apr 25 05:36:28 bit group organizational unit Apr 25 05:36:59 data structure seems very straightforward and clear. what are you trying to describe? Apr 25 05:53:45 hOw do I check Apr 25 05:53:59 So right now I have a Viewpager and something with radio groups Apr 25 05:54:13 If a certain radio button is checked, a popup window shows Apr 25 05:54:32 But, if you navigate back to the fragment via the view pager and the radio button is checked, the popup window always shows up and the user has to dismiss it Apr 25 05:54:35 how would I fix this bug . . . ? Apr 25 05:55:03 give something else the default focus with Apr 25 05:55:18 JackWharton: trying to come up with the name of the superclass of the data structure to hold some common primitives and some implemented data content for uploading/use in an adapter Apr 25 05:55:59 Let's try that. Apr 25 06:00:59 Hmmm Apr 25 06:01:00 That didn't fix it. Apr 25 06:03:38 does anyone know if using a callback in a derived class if the superclass is implementing the interface will work? Apr 25 06:04:27 Well requestFocus didn't work, I'm running out of ideas here . . . Apr 25 06:04:48 viiralvx: what do you mean by "navigate back to the fragment via the view pager" Apr 25 06:05:10 i believe the radio button listener has a bool if the checking was the result of a user event Apr 25 06:05:10 lasserix: Click on the tab/section on the view pager or scrolling back. Apr 25 06:05:37 *oncheckchangedlistener i thin Apr 25 06:05:52 It does have an onCheckChanged listener Apr 25 06:05:58 oh nm Apr 25 06:06:03 But not a property of "from user". Apr 25 06:06:35 you can use a boolean to check whether it is checked as a result of the user event, then only open the window Apr 25 06:07:18 Hmmm Apr 25 06:07:50 How would I do that? Apr 25 06:08:22 I cant remember how I did it, but one way is give all your buttons a touchlistener, then use that to set the bool to true Apr 25 06:08:48 return false so it still propogates, but i dont know if the checkedchangelistener will fire first so log it Apr 25 06:10:16 Yeah, I was using an onClickListener beforehand . . . Apr 25 06:11:03 after choosing the option to always run on a certain device, i try to reset that by going in to the run and debug configuration and choosing "always prompt" for target but still it launches on the first device. wtf? Apr 25 06:11:04 that would work too Apr 25 06:15:02 lasserix: oncheckedchanged always gets fired off before onclick Apr 25 06:15:42 what about touch? Apr 25 06:17:42 hiho, is anyone here? Apr 25 06:18:23 Just bots and monkeys with typewriters Apr 25 06:18:43 i'm an ape, not a monkey Apr 25 06:18:59 I'm Apr 25 06:19:00 An idiot. Apr 25 06:19:02 -__-- Apr 25 06:19:06 ciurkut: oh yeah idiots and apes too :) Apr 25 06:19:08 It was an easy fix Apr 25 06:19:11 For the Viewpager Apr 25 06:19:13 I forgot about the Apr 25 06:19:20 "onTabSelected/onTabReselected" methods Apr 25 06:19:28 cool Apr 25 06:19:35 Just as easy as setting a boolean to make sure that the input is coming from the user and not from tab navigation. Apr 25 06:19:37 Welp. Apr 25 06:19:41 Done with ym research now Apr 25 06:19:56 it's 2:20 AM and I have class at 9:00 AM. . . oh boy, college is such a fun time. Apr 25 06:20:41 i want to make listview with rows filled with imageview of patterns tiled to fit width of screen Apr 25 06:20:58 JakeWharton, I noticed... I just didn't notice the artifactId change at first Apr 25 06:21:22 ah, right. forgot about that. it actually happened in 4.2.0 but I published a 'moved' pom for the old artifact id Apr 25 06:21:25 cirukut: if your rows use linearlayout you can use layout_weight to equally space your tiles Apr 25 06:21:43 but my wouldnt it slow my app Apr 25 06:22:00 to make pattern background everytime in getview? Apr 25 06:22:06 of adapter? Apr 25 06:22:18 uhh Apr 25 06:22:46 i mean i have small background files like 20px x20px Apr 25 06:22:52 depends on what you're doing, but if you keep each row view hierarchy from getting too nested it should be okay? Apr 25 06:23:28 and i want listview to be populated with backgrounds that consists of those backgroundfiles tiled to fit the width Apr 25 06:23:29 you could also just a gridview Apr 25 06:25:32 http://i.stack.imgur.com/ojhy1.jpg Apr 25 06:25:39 i want this to be something like this Apr 25 06:25:44 but in row Apr 25 06:25:51 only imageview with background Apr 25 06:25:56 to fit width :c Apr 25 06:39:47 another question is wallpaper size of fullscreen resolution or fullscreen -statusbar? Apr 25 06:40:18 fullscreen Apr 25 06:40:35 thanks Apr 25 06:44:15 is there a way to append newlines to a stringbuilder? Apr 25 06:44:26 .append('\n') Apr 25 06:44:38 err doh Apr 25 06:44:39 yeah Apr 25 06:44:49 thanks was reading c# so question ;p Apr 25 06:45:22 you can also use System.getProperty("line.separator") for cross-platform nonsense Apr 25 06:45:44 and be sure to cache it. e.g., private static final String NEWLINE = System.getProperty(...); Apr 25 06:49:18 ahh thanks Apr 25 06:49:54 if this is within android framework, is it necessary to use getProperty? Apr 25 06:50:20 no Apr 25 06:58:06 you can't request focus on a view group can you? Apr 25 07:02:07 version 1.8 of gnu ed released! all you intellij/eclipse/vim/emacs suckas ! Apr 25 07:03:31 lasserix: if it's focusable, yes Apr 25 07:03:54 ahh okay Apr 25 07:03:59 i just put a hidden edit text for now Apr 25 07:08:23 I need a fast way to create a unique representation of a set of object instances of mixed types with minimal allocations Apr 25 07:08:44 I was thinking hashCode algorithm of their hashCodes (or integer representations) Apr 25 07:08:55 anything else I should look at/try? Apr 25 07:09:53 'not sue what you are asking. Not IdentityHashMap ? Apr 25 07:10:38 a close analogous would be creating a cache key from a set of params Apr 25 07:11:14 like, /user/54/record/1234 might become "user-54-record-1234" if I were using strings Apr 25 07:11:48 and had Info{user=54,record=1234} as an object Apr 25 07:12:49 basically, given an object whose fields have values create a unique key as fast and as "free" as possible Apr 25 07:13:45 hashCode just seemed like an obvious solution Apr 25 07:15:24 it seems like an obvious solution - can you not open up the scope because the fields are private (classes aren't yours?) Apr 25 07:16:12 everything is mine but i need to determine if two created objects represent the same thing quickly Apr 25 07:17:33 i'm doing human-readable strings right now because it used to be fast enough but it seems that's not really the case Apr 25 07:17:52 i'll do hashcode with benchmarks and allocation tracker and see where we land Apr 25 07:21:42 is there a way to make an inputtable view widget (edit text) go to the top of the device's viewable area anytime it's clicked? Apr 25 07:22:24 I have the problem that the boss wants the home fragment to have centered title/edit text, but if i use autocompletetextview the suggestions appear above the edit text Apr 25 07:30:46 JakeWharton: i'm sure you saw this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/263400/what-is-the-best-algorithm-for-an-overridden-system-object-gethashcode Apr 25 07:31:50 yep that's basically what i'm doing Apr 25 07:31:57 except with 37, of course Apr 25 07:34:04 So I'm trying to make a notification inside an smsReceiver class. I have NotificationCompat.Builder builder = new NotificationCompat.Builder(this), and eclipse says "The constructor NotificationCompat.Builder(smsReceiver) is undefined. What am I doing wrong? Apr 25 07:34:53 you need to pass a context Apr 25 07:35:08 your 'this' is probably an inner-class of something, I assume? Apr 25 07:35:14 try OuterClass.this instead Apr 25 07:35:47 OuterClass cannot be resolved to a type Apr 25 07:37:11 i didn't mean literally Apr 25 07:37:31 you need to pass a context as the argument to the builder Apr 25 07:38:35 why does every example have (this)? Apr 25 07:39:06 probably because they are creating it inside of a context (e.g., activity) Apr 25 07:40:36 this is running in a broadcast receiver, and I'm trying to create a notification with a pendingintent which will start the app if not started Apr 25 07:41:19 so what context would I use? Apr 25 07:41:39 the broadcast receiver gets a context, but I don't know if it's a good one for this Apr 25 07:41:46 it is, use that Apr 25 07:44:17 hmm. ok. so I want the pendingintent to start MainActivity.class in my app. I tried specifying it as MainActivity.class and also as com.mystuff.MainActivity.class, neither of which it can resolve. Do you know how I would specify it? Apr 25 07:50:16 resolve in code editor or resolve in app stack? Apr 25 08:01:43 shouldn't onCreate get called when including another layout for the activity mapped to this layout? Apr 25 08:05:56 I'm doing a phonegap app, and R.anything is undefined. Anyone know how to fix it? Apr 25 08:06:11 I have getMenuInflater().inflate(R.menu.activity_main, menu); and R.menu is undefined Apr 25 08:06:32 or rather menu is Apr 25 08:06:39 undefined Apr 25 08:10:43 did you declare a menu XML Apr 25 08:10:45 what R did you import? Apr 25 08:10:48 uhh make sure you aren't importing the wrong R Apr 25 08:18:35 Who can update http://mvnrepository.com/artifact/com.google.android/support-v4 and add a version for the latest android-support-v4? ("r7" is obsolete) Apr 25 08:24:03 afaik/supposedly google's supposed to take care of that, no idea when that's going to happen though Apr 25 08:25:59 aleb: maven lets you have a local repo; in those cases i just installed it there Apr 25 08:26:27 (get the official from the sdk manager) and install that jar Apr 25 08:26:51 i think this is the invocation http://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-3rd-party-jars-local.html Apr 25 08:37:09 what scale type for an image view will fit maintaining aspect ratio whatever image its set too? Apr 25 08:45:06 lasserix FIT_CENTER ? Apr 25 08:45:54 ahh yeah Apr 25 08:49:15 g00s, Zharf, thanks, I filed a bug, I hope somebody will notice https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=54697 Apr 25 08:59:16 anyone know how to get an emulator to work for xxhdpi? Apr 25 08:59:22 If I am adding an xml file to another xml file, ie, in a fragment i am inflating one view as the layout then depending on some args inflating another view and adding it to the first, what parameter list should I use? Apr 25 09:00:50 yakkof_: your screen can't push that many pixels Apr 25 09:03:06 what's the limitation? Apr 25 09:03:28 The actual density of pixels on your monitor Apr 25 09:06:31 that's ok- at least I can see a portion of the emulated screen on the monitor. need to verify the proper resources are used Apr 25 09:07:52 yakkof_: you can zoom the emulator Apr 25 09:09:33 blackice_ I need to emulate a 1080x1920 xxhdpi screen. can get the emulator to do it. Apr 25 09:09:44 can't get Apr 25 09:10:00 why not? Apr 25 09:10:48 yakkof_: when you run the emu, set the -scale param maybe 0.5 or something Apr 25 09:11:00 don't know- just black screen when emulator tries to load Apr 25 09:11:20 thats the typical emu UX regardless of dpi :D Apr 25 09:11:29 it might be very very slow though, do you run the emulator with x86 and hardware accelerated graphics? Apr 25 09:12:03 oh yeah, the arm version will be slow as hell Apr 25 09:12:50 I think booting xxhdpi without HW gfx and x86 isn't really feasible before the heat death of the universe Apr 25 09:13:46 yeah, but whenever I try to load with that res and density, the 'android' logo never shows and emu just sits there with black screen Apr 25 09:14:03 not even clear it's trying to do anything Apr 25 09:14:22 yakkof_: again, is that with x86 and HW gfx acceleration? Because without those xxhdpi might not really work that well Apr 25 09:19:52 is it possible to set the emu display width and height via adb shell? Apr 25 09:28:59 JakeWharton : I didn't import any R. I thought it was supposed to be created automatically? Apr 25 09:32:41 Hello all,, i am using a tablet which should not be able to browse the internet if it is not connected to a private network with VPN. So i tought i would disable browsing with a firewall. But since i don't want to root my device i am forced to use a firewall which uses VPN technology to block the internet access. Now the problem is that when i disconnect from VPN the firewall is not Apr 25 09:32:41 automaticly started. And since i am using the original openVPN application i cannot modify the source or anything. Do you guys have any advise on how to solve my problem ? (BTW i am using the tablet in a work enviroment. that is why the user cannot use the tablet for personal use. Therefor i installed a application which requires a password to open 'unknown' applications. ) Apr 25 09:39:36 I added a fragment to backstack, I go to next fragment, then hit back, some of my variables are still there even though I have not loaded them from the bundle Apr 25 09:41:46 oh i see so this variables are retained, how do I tell within the fragment i have left the fragment so i can repopulate the data ? Apr 25 09:43:08 onPause() / onResume() Apr 25 09:43:23 oh yeah thanks Apr 25 10:05:49 if i press back, and have previousily setargs for a fragment, will those args be there on going back? Apr 25 10:09:13 what do you mean setargs? you call a setter on a fragment instance? in this case, no. But if you set bundle extras, then yes Apr 25 10:09:28 yeah bundle extras Apr 25 10:16:47 i'm setting the layout size of a Fragment at runtime.. but it's not reflecting on the UI.. any idea why? is there an updateUI method i should call or something? Apr 25 10:17:20 it's instead taking the layout from the xml file Apr 25 10:20:38 you using layoutparams? Apr 25 10:21:18 yeah Apr 25 10:21:40 aView.setLayoutParams(new LayoutParams(android.view.ViewGroup.LayoutParams.MATCH_PARENT, ServiceUtils.getDisplayMetrics(aView.getContext()).heightPixels*50/100)); Apr 25 10:22:07 are you sure those dont match wht the xml does? Apr 25 10:22:13 is your fragment declared in xml? Apr 25 10:23:08 yes, it's declared in the main activity's xml Apr 25 10:23:20 but inside my Fragment class i'm inflating its own xml file Apr 25 10:23:37 then dont put it in the main activitys xml Apr 25 10:23:45 just add it in code since you are inflatig its own view Apr 25 10:23:55 override OnCreateView and return whatever it is your inflating Apr 25 10:24:12 but how do i reference the fragment from the main activity? Apr 25 10:24:28 uhh its a member? Apr 25 10:25:21 right now my main activity's xml file references 3 fragments, each fragments inflates its own ui Apr 25 10:25:33 each fragment* Apr 25 10:25:40 what's wrong with that? Apr 25 10:26:10 you are referencing your fragments in the xml instead of adding them in code in your main activity, correct? Apr 25 10:26:27 correct Apr 25 10:26:36 i thought this is a safe scenario Apr 25 10:28:06 it is but fragments dont work as expected Apr 25 10:28:11 much easier to handle them in code Apr 25 10:28:12 http://pastebin.com/ZsXJCxQ6 Apr 25 10:28:18 here's example code of how to do in it code Apr 25 10:28:45 the thing is i need to resize my fragments dynamically .. at runtime Apr 25 10:28:46 ok Apr 25 10:29:02 yeah that sounds like something you might have to do in code because fragments behave differently Apr 25 10:29:23 of course you're main activity xml, if it is hosting 3 fragments simaltaneousily will be different (ie, the framelayouts or whatever viewgroup would be arranged in however way you want) Apr 25 10:29:32 lasserix, you know.. if i attempt to access my fragment's view from the fragment class, its layoutparams would be null Apr 25 10:29:46 idk Apr 25 10:30:32 this may help Apr 25 10:30:32 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10699464/dynamic-resize-fragment-android Apr 25 10:30:41 alright thanks Apr 25 10:36:33 Hello! I have 3 fragments in stack([1]<-[2]<-[3]; 3 - on the top of screen). Is there any method to pop fragment [1] to the top of screen to achieve following state [2]<-[3]<-[1]? Apr 25 10:37:30 hello, a quick question... which table do I need to update if I want to change the Contacts thumbnail photo? what do I write in the the ContentResolver.update(uri, values ) etc? Apr 25 10:42:43 Please, can anyone help! I have 3 fragments in stack([1]<-[2]<-[3]; 3 - on the top of screen). Is there any method to pop fragment [1] to the top of screen to achieve following state [2]<-[3]<-[1]? Apr 25 10:44:28 I think everyone is either at work, or sleeping :) Apr 25 10:46:19 or sleeping at work, lol Apr 25 10:46:33 :( Apr 25 11:12:40 hm, new ubuntu Apr 25 11:18:47 g00s: 13.04! Apr 25 11:19:36 lol xgear, most likely. Apr 25 11:19:39 its hot Apr 25 11:25:31 hi guys, i got some items i wanna generate and that is going all fine. But when i'd like to remove them it does not work. Im keeping the View's in a List and then itereate and remove them, but they are still there. Apr 25 11:25:36 I was thinking of making another offline dumb jokes app with hundreds of specific jokes, but what would be the best way to put those into the app? Obivously I could put every joke as a string.. but that sounds a bit ... wrong :P Apr 25 11:26:37 Quacked: im quite new to this, but i would use an xml-file Apr 25 11:26:38 cHarNe2: Adaper notified? Apr 25 11:26:44 Adapter* Apr 25 11:27:14 belgianguy: no, i dont think so. But i didnt notify it when adding items Apr 25 11:27:54 cHarNe2: plot 500 jokes in as strings? Apr 25 11:28:27 I was thinking it could be better with some kinda database Apr 25 11:29:00 SQlite? Apr 25 11:30:07 belgianguy: what benefits would that have? Apr 25 11:30:33 it's a database Apr 25 11:30:55 if you're just going to copy/paste them into your app, you might as well use strings.xml Apr 25 11:31:23 anyone used night and notnight resource qualifiers Apr 25 11:34:37 belgianguy: when I think of it I would want to sort them depending on the content, so a database could be the right way to go Apr 25 11:35:31 jokes dependent on names and one column for each name Apr 25 11:35:38 SQLite isn't a full flegded database, but better than nothing Apr 25 11:35:43 belgianguy: this is how i do it: http://pastie.org/7716085 I first try to remove items, then sents a request for an XML-file and after parse it and update. Apr 25 11:35:48 should be ok for this purpose Apr 25 11:35:58 I've used it before but havent bundled with apps Apr 25 11:36:07 i proboble missed something important Apr 25 11:36:51 cHarNe2: oh, I thought you were using a ListView Apr 25 11:37:23 I'm not accustomed to inserting and removing View derivatives Apr 25 11:40:10 belgianguy: ohh god im sorry to have bothered you, i had the "remove" code placed in the wrong function. Apr 25 11:40:20 it works as it should Apr 25 11:42:06 If I were to display a random string in a textview at the click of a button, taken from hundreds of strings, how would I proceed to go through the whole list of strings before starting over? Store progress in sharedprefs? Apr 25 11:42:20 guess that could work Apr 25 11:42:36 mikedg, got a pebble too Apr 25 11:42:44 yeah Apr 25 11:43:03 are pebbles cool? Apr 25 11:43:19 depends on what you want Apr 25 11:43:34 do you want a watch with a few smart things? or do you want a smart watch Apr 25 11:43:36 we can be pebble buddies Apr 25 11:43:43 think iOS vs Android in 2008 Apr 25 11:43:58 iOS == pebble Apr 25 11:44:44 whats the battery life? Apr 25 11:45:21 i'm not sure Apr 25 11:45:26 i charge it every 2 days to be safe Apr 25 11:45:31 there's no indicator that i could find Apr 25 11:45:37 hah Apr 25 11:45:42 weird Apr 25 11:46:14 also no connection indicator without diving into menus Apr 25 11:46:25 so if you get disconnected or your phone reboots, good luck figuring that out Apr 25 11:46:55 they made a decent wearable computer, they failed on the usability and software side outside of having some really nice watch faces Apr 25 11:48:20 guess that will be improved as time goes Apr 25 11:50:21 would a smart watch be something for people who never wear watches? Apr 25 11:50:27 can any dev put apps on it btw? Apr 25 11:50:34 I tend to check my phone for the time :/ Apr 25 11:52:19 Quacked, think so Apr 25 12:18:06 I assume you pebble users swapped out the strap with something like this? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qYWpJFSv9hY/UWDxNciyZqI/AAAAAAAAAR0/Ap2KRt3MRzI/s0/pebble+with+gold+strap.jpg Apr 25 12:19:22 haha, pimpcash Apr 25 12:19:35 I'll get something like that Apr 25 12:19:39 :D Apr 25 12:20:55 Hi all, I open a dialogfragment within my fragmentactivity. When I press the home button while the dialog is opened, the app crashes (Unfortunately, ... has stopped). Any ideas? Apr 25 12:21:49 Kennethos: what does logcat say? Apr 25 12:26:16 Please, can anyone help! I have 3 fragments in stack([1]<-[2]<-[3]; 3 - on the top of screen). Is there any method to pop fragment [1] to the top of screen to achieve following state [2]<-[3]<-[1]? Apr 25 12:28:42 Quacked: I found my mistake. Didn't run the app from eclipse but directly on my phone so I couldn't see the error. It was a nullpointerexception. I tried to add something that didn't exist yet to the outstate in onsaveinstancestate. Apr 25 12:29:59 anyone have March 2013 payout reports yet ? Apr 25 12:34:54 Chainfire, I bought your adbsecure app Apr 25 12:35:00 right before I move to CM10 Apr 25 12:35:17 but I thought, "You know what, he deserves � one pound 99 are you kidding me?�" Apr 25 12:35:27 nah, good work pal, much appreciated Apr 25 12:37:21 thx ;) Apr 25 12:42:18 do people get an email or smth if you reply to their comments ? Apr 25 12:43:44 How can I contact Google Play team? An user is rating innapropiately multiple times my app with same username (same phone model, same comment, etc.), it looks some kind of hack. How do I report this? Apr 25 12:45:05 YRoold, you're going to have to make your app better or feel his wrath :(, sure it's not just the same comment being displayed multiple times (in error) Apr 25 12:46:41 nope, is same username, their difference is username in a case-sensitive manner Apr 25 12:47:08 *facepalm* that blows Apr 25 12:48:29 YRoold: pretty much all you can do is report the comment(s) Apr 25 12:48:55 someone will look at it, sooner or later - but probably later Apr 25 12:49:17 I marked spam, but does nothing Apr 25 12:52:29 it flags it for review Apr 25 12:53:58 Anyone good with GCM - the google push notifications? I'm trying to unregister, but I'm still receiving push notifications - even after it seemingly successfully unregisters the app from GCM. onUnregistered(...) is called in my GCMBaseIntentService subclass Apr 25 12:54:17 I don't think their review manually all comments marked as spam of all google play apps Apr 25 12:54:49 maybe, maybe not - but they do review they if they get enough marks Apr 25 12:55:00 enough might be 1, 10 or 100 - we don't know Apr 25 12:55:37 would be nice an email address support, I only found a way to contact being a consumer but not being developer Apr 25 12:55:46 can't understand this Apr 25 12:56:12 you haven't dealt with Google before, have you? Apr 25 12:56:59 their entire business relies on automated systems at scale - their costs would be completely unsustainable if they dealt with every random question in person Apr 25 12:57:28 that said, there may or may not be Google people here, who may or may not be able to fast-track something, except you haven't told us what your app is :) Apr 25 12:57:46 romainguy@android.com: Subject: Sup Message: So I was just wondering if you'd be doing a talk at Google I/O this year. Kthnxbai <3 Apr 25 13:00:57 :) Apr 25 13:14:53 feesh: why the sentence "right before I move to CM10"? Apr 25 13:26:20 hi, I do not have an android device, only the emulator, can I use google play services ? I am going to use API10 (2.3.3) Apr 25 13:42:36 does proguard strip unused classes from the supportlib .jar? Apr 25 13:45:21 can't add 2 fragments from the same activity? Apr 25 14:11:34 heya folks, quick question - I have a viewpager with child padding set to a negative value so I can see adjacent pages, to create a sort of scrolling gallery effect Apr 25 14:11:49 However, I am trying to kill that negative padding for only the first and the last elements Apr 25 14:11:58 as it leaves a nasty empty space on the sides otherwise Apr 25 14:11:59 any idea? Apr 25 14:24:17 can I somehow get system's accented color (the default blue on ICS)? so my app will fit nicely, if someone has applied some theme on their system. Apr 25 14:24:40 If I inflate a layout which includes items which are set to View.GONE do they still inflate? Apr 25 14:26:51 oh never mind Apr 25 14:26:56 I'm an idiot Apr 25 14:27:14 yes you are ;) Apr 25 14:27:39 Pitel_IPEX: If you don't style it at all it should just use the system theme's colors Apr 25 14:27:56 or do you mean using that color for something else? Apr 25 14:28:14 BlackIce_: yes, for some image compositing in Canvas with Bitmap. Apr 25 14:28:35 BlackIce_: I had copied in the code to inflate the items of a ListView from another ListView and I had forgotten to change the thing I was inflating Apr 25 14:29:12 Ankhwatcher: ah :D silly errors sometimes. Must be late or early over there Apr 25 14:29:46 BlackIce_: nope, but my brain wasn't functioning so well when I made the initial mistake! Apr 25 14:29:52 Pitel_IPEX: this SO question might help: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8472694/how-to-get-android-system-colors Apr 25 14:30:23 Ankhwatcher: I hope it's all better now :D Apr 25 14:30:45 BlackIce_: thanks, this might be it. Apr 25 14:31:12 BlackIce_: all better is a bit of strech, but it's looking up! Apr 25 14:31:29 Pitel_IPEX: np! fyi, this was the first result for "android get system color" in google :P Apr 25 14:31:50 how do I properly make imagebuttons? Apr 25 14:32:23 my image buttons centers the image within the button so you can still see the square Apr 25 14:32:56 create a normal button and use the background attribute Apr 25 14:33:41 I'm trying to dynamically create a layout. What am I doing wrong? http://pastebin.com/5qMfSnKe Apr 25 14:35:06 I will try that chris Apr 25 14:35:08 thanks Apr 25 14:35:50 It seems after calling GCMRegistrat.unregister(...) I still get push notifications - but with an empty "from" extra in the received Intent. Usually that is the SENDER_ID. Yay. Apr 25 14:36:15 my code works find if I just use setContentView(R.layout.answer_activity) but not if I substitute that with setContentView(rl) Apr 25 14:37:04 http://pastebin.com/Zkk8HPg1 I have these errors... what do they mean ? Apr 25 14:41:07 so I've just instantiated a view and I want to animate it into place. that means I need to know its getGlobalVisibleRect for when it's layed out before I can start the animation. What I'm doing now is starting the animation from a view.post runnable, which works fine except - the view flickers for a frame as fully visible before it starts its animation. how would I get the information I need to start Apr 25 14:41:09 the animation before the view is drawn? Apr 25 14:55:43 how would I make an area grey in a layout? Apr 25 14:55:53 only color it? Apr 25 14:58:28 hi Apr 25 14:59:26 is there a built in way to add shading to all the items in a ListView? Apr 25 15:01:14 Ankhwatcher: nope Apr 25 15:02:24 anyone answer my question. how do I make a specific area a different color ?? Apr 25 15:04:40 what do you mean by area, a view? Apr 25 15:05:02 you want to overlay it? Apr 25 15:06:34 Quacked, 18 hours later Apr 25 15:06:44 Hello i am developing an app that could send 4-5 notifications per hour at regular interval. I am worried about battery life. Actually i am using AlarmManager. Is it better to use a service? Apr 25 15:06:47 Quacked, because CM10 has adb in insecure mode to begin with Apr 25 15:07:03 hey gus, is there any way to develop for android in Java on VS Apr 25 15:07:13 no Apr 25 15:07:16 I'm guessing there isn't Apr 25 15:07:18 ugh Apr 25 15:07:38 well I'm just not a big fan of eclipse and other IDEs Apr 25 15:07:52 The_Coolest, you're going to have fun then Apr 25 15:08:09 The_Coolest, you could use it to write the java code Apr 25 15:08:13 but compile it with other tools Apr 25 15:08:19 oh Apr 25 15:08:22 hmm. Apr 25 15:08:32 I think it'd be a pain. Apr 25 15:08:33 but it's going to be like ice skating up hill Apr 25 15:08:42 useless :) Apr 25 15:08:52 well, if visual studio has good java support, you can use it to write code Apr 25 15:09:00 that'd work fine, use an alternative build tool to compile Apr 25 15:09:03 I used eclipse before, but didn't have it installed on my new system Apr 25 15:09:26 thought maybe there have been some new developments since then :) Apr 25 15:10:11 The_Coolest, it's going to be painful regardless I think, moving from Eclipse to Xcode is killer, to VS is also killer Apr 25 15:10:21 you just have to roll with it and take your time Apr 25 15:10:34 what? Apr 25 15:10:39 VS > * :P Apr 25 15:10:55 I'm not claiming it isn't Apr 25 15:10:58 *cough* Apr 25 15:11:03 well i grew up with it, so it's easy to for me to say that :) Apr 25 15:11:16 but there is pain associated with switching IDEs Apr 25 15:11:26 yeah I guess so Apr 25 15:11:47 I hated eclipse for its intelisense lags Apr 25 15:12:03 autocomplete is overrated Apr 25 15:12:11 The_Coolest, that isn't eclipse's fault, that's your machines inability to handle the processing Apr 25 15:12:42 IDEs are overrated :p Apr 25 15:12:50 * pfn codes entirely out of IDEs Apr 25 15:13:00 I don't think you need a multicore beast running at extreme frequency to handle intelisense Apr 25 15:13:00 feesh: lol Apr 25 15:13:04 s/out/outside Apr 25 15:13:08 and it was a core i3 3ghz Apr 25 15:13:15 VS worked fine Apr 25 15:13:23 it's more memory than cpu Apr 25 15:13:32 8gb of RAM isn't plenty? Apr 25 15:13:39 feesh: that's like saying "well, it sucks that your 2GHz computer can't play 8kHz 8bit audio, but that's your computer's fault, not my highly inefficient program" Apr 25 15:13:46 not if your jvm is set to use 256m Apr 25 15:13:53 yes a overlay Apr 25 15:13:57 pfn: as do i, but autocompletion is pretty handy .. my first go-to for things lacking documentation Apr 25 15:13:57 The_Coolest, sure, eclipse doesn't take up 8gb by default Apr 25 15:13:59 pretty sure Eclipse won't run with 256m heap Apr 25 15:14:01 zinx, I know :P Apr 25 15:14:05 The_Coolest, it uses something like 256 or 512m heap by default Apr 25 15:14:12 zinx, it does Apr 25 15:14:14 eclipse has its own script Apr 25 15:14:23 default eclipse.ini has like a 512m heap Apr 25 15:14:37