**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 11 02:59:58 2013 Jun 11 03:03:45 jayzuz #java has some jerks in there Jun 11 03:05:09 sure does! Jun 11 03:05:33 is there also an easy way to get headers from a response? Jun 11 03:06:02 can someone give me pointers on passing data back to an Activity from a ListFragment once a user clicks on a listitem? Jun 11 03:06:48 thebean you can have the mainactivity define an interface like `Callbacks#onItemClicked(Item item)` and have the ListFragment implement that interface Jun 11 03:07:33 or rather have MainActivity implement the interface Jun 11 03:07:40 and in ListFragment Jun 11 03:07:58 's onAttach, cast the activity to that interface and save a reference to it that you invoke whenever someone clicks something Jun 11 03:08:36 shigeru: thanks...I found a tutorial with this approach in mind...wasn't sure if there was anything easier Jun 11 03:08:54 i think i see a lot of people using event buses too as an alternative Jun 11 03:10:36 gotcha Jun 11 04:16:00 Hey, I am trying to push a git repo to my bitbucket account in Android Studio, how do I do this? Jun 11 04:22:28 by not using that piece of crap and instead learning how to do it on the command-line Jun 11 04:23:27 Snicers-Work: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16644946/how-do-you-sync-projects-to-github-with-android-studio Jun 11 04:23:44 (it's not GitHub-specific) Jun 11 04:24:58 I did that before, but when I pulled the source on a different computer it would not compile, threw all sorts off errors and ended up telling me the APK location was not set. Jun 11 04:25:44 what did you include and exclude in the repo? Jun 11 04:28:16 you should not have the bin / gen directories or local.properties in VCS Jun 11 04:29:05 (Actually, nevermind; i'm not sure what is and isn't required by AS / Gradle. The above is for Ant.) Jun 11 04:30:16 * pjdelport still doesn't understand why anyone would willingly use Git when there's hg Jun 11 04:33:02 Git is MacGyver and Mercurial is James Bond Jun 11 04:44:29 pjdelport: I only barely used hg, but from the little I saw of it, I prefer git Jun 11 04:44:46 not that hg is bad Jun 11 04:44:58 but, git just jives better with me Jun 11 04:45:51 I want to create a git repo in the project root folder , not the src folder correct? Jun 11 04:46:02 yes Jun 11 04:52:52 why would you use hg when there's git? Jun 11 04:52:56 hg's a bit slower than git, too Jun 11 04:53:08 or it was when I tried it Jun 11 05:02:07 pfn: more features, better UI :) Jun 11 05:02:20 though the latter easily gets into religious territory, of course Jun 11 05:10:45 More features? LOL Jun 11 05:11:11 pfn: It wasn't "a bit" slower when I used it on larg-ish project. Jun 11 05:11:15 It was _a lot_ slower. Jun 11 05:11:35 pjdelport: By UI you mean what? Jun 11 05:15:15 kakazza: in terms of features heavily miss things like revsets, mq and named branches whenever i have to use git Jun 11 05:16:31 I dunno about more features or better ui, either Jun 11 05:16:42 same thing on both fronts, clone, commit, push, pull, same diffs Jun 11 05:17:11 by UI i mainly mean the command set; git makes it a comparative mission to do the equivalent of things like hg in/out and hg manifest Jun 11 05:17:16 The difference I see is that rebasing works like a charm in git and changing branches happens in an instant instead of taking a bit of time. Jun 11 05:17:24 kakazza, indeed Jun 11 05:17:32 more of an instant if y9ou're on an ssd Jun 11 05:17:55 more instanter than instant Jun 11 05:18:46 the features that work the same are fine; it's the features that are missing that i miss Jun 11 05:19:15 missing things are missed! news at 11! Jun 11 05:20:12 in any case, i'm sure there's a script for everything that you think is missing. Jun 11 05:20:58 And thus, the possibility for an alias to do the same thing, just faster ;) Jun 11 05:21:23 not for the things i mentioned Jun 11 05:21:35 (i wish there were, but oh well) Jun 11 05:22:28 And now we go and mention the seven things mercurial can't do. Jun 11 05:22:38 I switched after two years of hg to git and never looked back. Jun 11 05:22:57 The one thing that mercurial just doesn't have is the performance and speed of git. Jun 11 05:23:24 And when I converted the hg repo to git, it also became half the size. Not saying that is a general thing with git, but it's one thing I noticed. Jun 11 05:25:13 kakazza: What can't hg do? Jun 11 05:25:54 it can't make you cool Jun 11 05:26:01 That for one. Jun 11 05:26:05 ;p Jun 11 05:26:34 I switched to git back then, because I was using Google Code which didn't have git support at the time and it was impossible to delete branches. Jun 11 05:27:15 So I ended up having shitloads of feature branches I couldn't get rid of. And since Google had their own version of a Mercurial server which was old and not feature complete, I was kind of forced to switch to git. Jun 11 05:27:28 Because at the time, github seemed like the better alternative to bitbucket. Jun 11 05:28:44 Can you now delete branches in Mercurial? Jun 11 05:31:01 From what I've seen, no. Jun 11 05:31:57 You mean bookmarks? You can delete them, yes. Jun 11 05:32:11 Branches. Jun 11 05:32:26 What hg calls bookmarks is the same thing as what git calls branches. Jun 11 05:32:39 http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/PruningDeadBranches Jun 11 05:32:57 What hg calls named branches, git doesn't have any equivalent of. Jun 11 05:33:44 It doesn't make sense to talk about deleting a named branch: it's an immutable part of the changesets themselves. Jun 11 05:34:04 You can close it, though. Jun 11 05:34:13 See, you're just going "hg does it that way, any other way doesn't make sense" Jun 11 05:34:26 no, hg does it both ways Jun 11 05:34:28 I want to rewrite history if I have to. Or heck, if I just want to. Jun 11 05:34:34 git lets me do that. Jun 11 05:34:48 if you want bookmarks, you use bookmarks Jun 11 05:35:19 Do I use bookmarks for short lived features branches? Jun 11 05:35:56 You use bookmarks if you want the same behavior as git's branches: they're the same thing. Jun 11 05:36:26 I can push them to the repo and delete them after they've been merged to default? Jun 11 05:36:30 yes Jun 11 05:36:54 http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/Workflows Jun 11 05:36:59 Does not talk about bookmarks much. Jun 11 05:37:05 They talk about named branches for features. Jun 11 05:37:57 Seriously, I spent a good portion of my time in #mercurial trying to deal with the limitation of what named-branches offer. No one - including developers - even once said anything about bookmarks. Jun 11 05:38:27 And whatever you say won't make me switch again. git does everything I need and more without being slow. Jun 11 05:38:33 And this isn't the right place to discuss this. Jun 11 05:38:36 well, that page says "If you want git-style branching, just use bookmarks." Jun 11 05:39:19 oh, no one's trying to make you switch; i'm just griping about when i have to use git Jun 11 05:39:39 When you value your time. Jun 11 05:40:44 If I want git-style branching, I'm going to use git. Just saying. Jun 11 05:47:17 (As a side note, I don't see bitbucket supporting bookmarks in their web UI) Jun 11 05:47:18 * kakazza gone Jun 11 05:48:35 they should show up Jun 11 05:49:23 unless you found a bug Jun 11 05:50:27 Can you show me a repo using bookmarks Jun 11 05:50:34 I'd be interested. Jun 11 05:55:42 PM me if you know of one to not disturb the channel anymore. Jun 11 05:56:12 i don't know of one offhand; we use named branches for everything Jun 11 06:05:04 Are there any alternatives I should consider for android-query? Jun 11 06:06:11 I'm thinking of pulling that in to reduce helpers i'm writing... Jun 11 06:09:48 good morning :) **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 11 06:41:24 2013 Jun 11 07:05:23 hey I need to implement a "slidingtray" to one of my apps to handle for navigation (yes, i know actionbar but a "slidingtray" or "slidingdrawer" is needed... does anyone know where I can possibly find a tut or code or library that will satisfy this need? I could just do it myself, obviously, but curious if there is anything out there I could maybe use??? Jun 11 07:06:11 killmesoftly one was added to the support library Jun 11 07:06:34 http://developer.android.com/design/patterns/navigation-drawer.html Jun 11 07:07:16 alternatively this is a great 3rd party lib to do it https://github.com/SimonVT/android-menudrawer Jun 11 07:10:01 thank you very much lasserix!!! Jun 11 07:15:59 Andengine and libgdx, whats up with them? Jun 11 07:23:29 Taking the default 'Master/Detail' flow template in Eclipse, and adding a third Fragment (let's call it Edit, launched from the pre-existing Detail Fragment) and I'm now looking to open the Edit Fragment when a user clicks on an item in the Detail Fragment. I've implemented an interface on the Detail fragment, however depending on whether the application is on a Tablet or Phone (dual-pane or not), the Iterface requires to be implemented by either the De Jun 11 07:23:29 tail Activity, or the Main Activity in order to function. Have I implemented this incorrectly, or is there a best practice that would allow me to unify the implementation of the interfaces into the main activity? Sorry for the long winded question! Jun 11 07:24:11 Note, that the Edit fragment utilizes the same placeholder used by the Detail fragment. Jun 11 07:25:07 c/p this since you would probably get mor help 12-14 hr from now (or ask on stack overflow) Jun 11 07:25:55 Ah right, ok I'll chuck it up on stack overflow. Thanks anyway :) Jun 11 07:31:37 Sieder: the detail callback to the activity housing the fragments should request the edit fragment Jun 11 07:31:53 depending on the phone perform the right layout/fragment transition Jun 11 07:32:21 ericthegreat: libgdx or andengine? Jun 11 07:32:56 andengine is written by a guy who is now owned by zynga and only runs on android phones. libgdx is a little more technical, but is crossplatform Jun 11 07:33:19 both work and have many games developed on them, up to you what you want out of them Jun 11 07:34:47 oh Sieder: my layout for this stuff is that all fragments that need to request another fragment go through the parent activity, so each fragment has a listener and the activity implements it Jun 11 07:35:53 since with context you can get fragment manager this is not necessary (you could switch out fragments in a fragment) i just like consolidating my navigation code in the activity so it's consitent Jun 11 07:38:56 what lasserix describes is the 'best practice' for the record ( http://developer.android.com/training/basics/fragments/communicating.html ) Jun 11 07:41:26 What is the best way to get one of the android sample projects into android studio so it can be ran on a device? Jun 11 07:42:59 Thanks lasserix / Kegsay. The Detail fragment (second fragment) is requesting the edit fragment, however due to the fact that the Detail fragment is either added as a fragment by the main activity, or by the detail activity, the activity that implements the detail fragments interface changes based on device. This sounds pretty ugly to me - I guess I've got myself into a bit of a mix-up somewhere? Jun 11 07:43:45 (the detail activity can be started by the main activity, again based upon whether or not the device is a phone) Jun 11 07:44:17 I have put the question on Stack Overflow, including a couple of code snippets, if you'd be willing to take a look? Jun 11 07:44:56 It's got to be my understanding of how to implement these interfaces that's at fault - I can't believe you have to implement them twice. Jun 11 07:50:02 the interface should *never* change depending on the device, it should just be a set of actions that the activity may or may not be interested in Jun 11 07:50:09 send a link over Jun 11 07:50:16 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17038696/three-fragments-interface-on-second-fragment-requiring-implementation-on-both-m Jun 11 07:50:24 Thanks Jun 11 07:51:02 I've been going around in circles the last couple of days - once I know how this is supposed to work, I know I'm going to face-palm hard. Jun 11 07:51:57 how well does libGDX work for android development? Jun 11 07:52:06 Also, does anyone know the lisencing on it? Jun 11 07:54:51 I've heard a couple of people recommend it - as for licensing, I've seen references stating that using it for Closed or Open source projects on Android / iPhone is permitted, however for iPhone (as stated on their site) you will need a MonoTouch license (which is not free). Jun 11 07:55:18 I've not used it myself, but looking at the products that DO use it, it's obviously a pretty powerful and mature library. Jun 11 07:56:44 I've played around with it a bit, and so far it's the best library I've used. Jun 11 07:57:04 As long as it doesn't have drastic performance issues anywhere and no crazy lisence, i'm pretty sold on it Jun 11 07:58:26 hopefully that makes sense Seidr Jun 11 07:58:53 libdgx is Apache License 2.0 Jun 11 07:59:13 Explain apache lisence 2.0 like im 5, i forget what it does Jun 11 08:00:24 nvm stack overflow already did Jun 11 08:00:50 That does make sense, but the two fragments referenced there (WaveListFragment and WaveDetailFragment) are infact ListFragments, with Activities (used for launching the Fragment, if a phone device is used). Jun 11 08:01:04 I supposed I need to unify those separate Activites into a single 'Main' activity? Jun 11 08:01:07 gah, it's one of those Wall-of-text licenses... that's why I prefer the 2-clause bsd license... Jun 11 08:01:13 yes Seidr Jun 11 08:01:45 you should have a single Activity, which implements both fragments. Then if you're on a phone, you treat the onClicks from Detail Fragment differently than on a tablet (which would spawn the Edit Fragment) Jun 11 08:01:46 2 and 3 clause BSD are my favs Jun 11 08:02:04 I forgot what the 3rd clause used to be ;) Jun 11 08:02:28 is that the one where they can't use your name to promote the derived product or somesuch? Jun 11 08:02:48 Riiight, so instead of starting an Intent to open the second Fragment, I would simply use the code from the second Activity that opens the Fragment, in place of the Intent? Jun 11 08:03:04 yeah Jun 11 08:03:07 that's what 3 clause is Jun 11 08:03:26 well, I don't care about that one that much, so 2-clause for me ;) Jun 11 08:03:41 (so the only difference between opening the Fragment on phones or tablets, in my case, would be the adding of the Fragment to the back stack. Jun 11 08:03:47 I use 3 clause in one of my librarys i wrote just because i didn't want people yelling at me if it was used incorrectly Jun 11 08:03:48 yup Jun 11 08:04:03 Excellent, thank you Kegsay! :) Jun 11 08:04:09 That's much clearer now. Jun 11 08:04:11 ^^ no problem Jun 11 08:04:46 * mitch0 goes and finds that lib to yell at octopus anyway Jun 11 08:05:12 no don't! I know it was poorly written, it was never meant for serious use! Jun 11 08:05:44 I actually had a nightmare that it caused some sort of catasrophic failure, and then woke up and someone posted about 3 clause bsd and i thought "it's a sign" Jun 11 08:13:00 BSD ftw. although I'm tempted to use WTFPL for something (http://www.wtfpl.net/) Jun 11 08:17:33 Apache 2.0 seems nice Jun 11 08:26:17 p_l: too many words! ;) Jun 11 08:28:09 JesusFreke: well, it's basically armor plating for your arse, written in legalese Jun 11 08:30:33 hey Jun 11 08:30:44 I can't seem to get phone location using 3G network Jun 11 08:30:55 meaning - no wifi, no gps Jun 11 08:31:03 using LocationClient Jun 11 08:31:08 any suggestions/strategies? Jun 11 08:31:33 the problem with WTFPL is that there is no reason for you to include a lisence with it Jun 11 08:32:05 you might as well just say Jun 11 08:32:08 this has no lisence Jun 11 08:32:08 or Jun 11 08:32:26 in some jurisdictions, there is no such thing as public domain Jun 11 08:33:03 Octopuscabbage: "no license" means "it's illegal for you to even read it" Jun 11 08:34:02 so you have to explicitly provide a license that grants the rights someone would normally have on a public domain work Jun 11 08:34:07 or at least, that's the way I understand it :) Jun 11 08:34:23 IANAL Jun 11 08:34:42 JesusFreke: "public domain" is something that has to be explicitly done in USA, because otherwise chances are close to 0 the work will ever be in public domain Jun 11 08:34:58 I'm trying to use the ActionBar's Tabs. And I want to style these Tabs heavily so that I define their width. Anyone know if this is possible? So far I've had no luck; the Action seems to override anything i do to the tabs themselves. Jun 11 08:35:24 many european systems OTOH have separation of "authorship" and "copyright" (you could call them "author" and "material" rights, I guess) Jun 11 08:36:12 "author" rights never expire, and are non-transferrable. "material" rights expire after time and lead to basically "public domain" condition Jun 11 08:36:17 but in any case, the wtfpl is essentially a snarky way of putting something in the public domain Jun 11 08:36:41 Instead of using the nice ActionBa, I'm currently considering a solution similar to this http://thepseudocoder.wordpress.com/2011/10/13/android-tabs-viewpager-swipe-able-tabs-ftw/ to achieve what I want. Jun 11 08:36:47 I prefer Apache 2.0 because it protects the publisher against certain issues Jun 11 08:36:50 But I'd rather have a solution for the ActionBar.Tab. Jun 11 08:38:04 yeah, I just prefer the simplicity of bsd, for my own personal projects. Jun 11 08:39:51 Googlers must see this Jun 11 08:39:57 Ethiopian Developers voice Jun 11 08:39:58 http://google-ethiodevs.blogspot.com/2013/05/ethiopian-developers-want-google-to.html Jun 11 08:46:12 can black people even program Jun 11 08:47:01 I work with one Jun 11 08:47:06 he's not the best example Jun 11 08:47:12 I mean, he's not Ethiopian, just black. Jun 11 08:47:17 nigerian prince scams can go mobile! Jun 11 08:47:20 but he's mostly just not a good coder Jun 11 08:47:25 wtf? Jun 11 08:47:46 which has nothing to do with his blackness - just orthogonal information Jun 11 08:50:02 so did anyone else actually jump for joy when google switched official support from eclipse to intellij Jun 11 08:50:25 I did until I realized it wrecked my jni stuff Jun 11 08:50:39 to switch from one system to the other Jun 11 08:50:39 Hi! Is it safe to link in my database ids from contacts provider across different devices? Jun 11 08:50:46 your jni stuff was wrecked from the beginning and you know it. Jun 11 08:50:57 honestly... lol, it was Jun 11 08:51:25 the contractor my bosses hired to do that work didn't even have an android device, from what I remember Jun 11 08:51:32 Octopuscabbage: how stupid are u? Jun 11 08:52:03 yola: do you want a scale or an adjective, scale of 1-10 i'd say like 7, adjective, i'd say above average stupidity Jun 11 08:52:47 Octopuscabbage: hmm sure Jun 11 08:52:54 yola: why do you ask? Jun 11 08:53:11 to be fair, at least Octopuscabbage spells out the second-person personal pronoun fully Jun 11 08:53:20 Octopuscabbage: because u said "black can't program" Jun 11 08:53:33 Here's a classic; I'm pushing timestamps from my server to my Android app. When I stuff those timestamps into an Sqlite database on the device, it adjusts for my local timezone, which I do not want (since the timestamp from the server is UTC). Suggestions for easiest workaround (e.g. force UTC timezone in sqlite)? Jun 11 08:53:43 yola: it's true, how many colors do you know that can program? green is almost there i think Jun 11 08:54:09 kjeldahl: you could always take the easy way out and just store timestamps as integer types rather than as date types Jun 11 08:54:11 green is kind of taking a scala approach though, so we'll see how that goes Jun 11 08:54:49 Octopuscabbage: you should have been in 17 century Jun 11 08:54:55 whateverman: That's definitively one way. Jun 11 08:55:21 yola: I hope I live long enough to live in 17 different centuries, that would be awesome! Thanks for the good words on my behalf! Jun 11 08:56:12 yola: is your handle a reference to cocaine? Jun 11 08:56:25 whateverman: mine is Jun 11 08:56:33 damn, son Jun 11 08:56:59 whateverman: wht are u saying? Jun 11 08:57:14 read the words. They're pretty plain. Jun 11 08:58:51 whateverman: you are supporting him, right? Jun 11 08:59:02 yola: why so confrontational? Jun 11 08:59:48 nobody likes an Internet Tough Guy. Jun 11 09:00:03 whateverman: because what he said is not correct Jun 11 09:00:05 i do, i like him Jun 11 09:02:38 Cool. He just seems to have like... a Mexican restaurant's worth of chips on his shoulder. Jun 11 09:03:23 is openGL the only rendery thing android supports Jun 11 09:03:29 and does every device support it Jun 11 09:03:40 * whateverman points to google.com Jun 11 09:03:42 try it out Jun 11 09:03:55 but my cursor was already hereeeeee Jun 11 09:04:17 Octopuscabbage: use Alt+tab Jun 11 09:04:39 this channel isn't very interesting Jun 11 09:04:40 rendery thing Jun 11 09:04:56 balls2thewall: it's 4 am and i couldn't think of what it is Jun 11 09:04:56 with Octopuscabbage and yola waving their dicks around Jun 11 09:05:10 i mean the channel is called #waveyourdickaround Jun 11 09:05:53 whateverman: sorry Jun 11 09:06:31 * whateverman helicopters his dick around and goes back to replacing the JNI ffmpeg system the contractor built Jun 11 09:08:09 :| Jun 11 09:08:44 hey guys, is anyone familiar with the alpha/beta channel at Google Play? just published an alpha version, but was wondering what's the flow for installing the alpha version. after joining the tester group, does Google Play automatically serve up the alpha version based on the user login account from the SAME URL as the currently published app? or is there a special URL? Jun 11 09:13:07 dck28: should be the same app, it'll show up as any update in Play. Jun 11 09:15:26 thanks appell. Jun 11 09:21:41 I've just downloaded the Android SDK Bundle - is Eclipse included? I can't find it? Jun 11 09:21:41 Any way to quickly make a surfaceless OGL/EGL context in Android? Jun 11 09:23:03 surfaceless? what would the context even describe without one Jun 11 09:23:42 he wants to do radix computing Jun 11 09:34:09 hey ejcweb pm me and i'll sort you out Jun 11 09:39:45 is there a way to close/open the navigation drawer on will? not really sure which function to call. How do I set the navigation drawer to open up on onCreate function when starting up the app? Jun 11 09:41:26 i have an inner class that extends SimpleCursorAdapter. which method should i override here to set my ImageView? Jun 11 09:41:59 eSatsu: navigation drawer? Jun 11 09:44:59 actually found it. its just mDrawerLayout.openDrawer(mDrawerList); Jun 11 09:45:13 appel1: http://developer.android.com/training/implementing-navigation/nav-drawer.html Jun 11 09:47:06 ok Jun 11 09:55:55 Hi all! Jun 11 09:56:30 Any way to quickly make a surfaceless OGL/EGL context in Android, no one made an applicable answer prior Jun 11 09:58:09 Needed to pull out GL_VERSION and various other string Jun 11 10:02:01 Sonicadvance1: there are apps that do that for you, if you just want to quickly view that info Jun 11 10:02:20 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.realtechvr.glview Jun 11 10:02:30 My application needs to pull it out :| Jun 11 10:03:18 I could easily create a GLSurfaceView, and grab the information in there, but it would be nicer to make a surfaceless context Jun 11 10:05:40 There /is/ a reason why there is the EGL extension EGL_KHR_surfaceless_context Jun 11 10:07:10 sonicadvance if you can't find what you are looking forjust make a glsv but don't apply it to layout and let it go Jun 11 10:07:12 hey guys, is it possible to register JNI calls on the Java side on a different thread? Jun 11 10:07:35 I guess I could do Jun 11 10:07:42 basically when the ndk lib calls for the java code, I want to run that in a permanent non-ui thread Jun 11 10:07:43 I was just hoping for a nicer solution Jun 11 10:08:03 really its no different then instancing displaymetrics to get device screen w/h Jun 11 10:08:43 deleet, yes Jun 11 10:08:50 or more importantly doesn't sound like a bottleneck so why waste time on trying to cut your lawn to within the nanometer Jun 11 10:09:21 Sonicadvance1: do you achieve this by binding the jni lib in a different thread or? (it's not my lib) Jun 11 10:09:32 Most for not crying at ugly code Jun 11 10:10:07 glsurfaceview glview = new glsv(this); //get data glview = null; voila not too ugly Jun 11 10:10:23 can't imagine getting egl context alone is going to look much different Jun 11 10:10:25 Hi guys i am going crazy because i piece of code of mine is rising nullpointer exception while nothing of mine is a nullpointer :( http://pastebin.com/Us6u4SL5 Jun 11 10:10:35 Picky D: Jun 11 10:10:59 hehe yeah i know what you mean but you just got to pick your battles, if you find a solution later revise it for now worry about actually important things Jun 11 10:11:11 it's like never writing a line of code because you can't settle on what to name your method Jun 11 10:11:41 lasserix: is that bad? that's like, 80% of my day Jun 11 10:12:11 deleet: just a matter of how you like to spend your days, get the code done worry about what to call it afterward Jun 11 10:12:31 it's not like your rearing a child and once the name is on the certificate you're screwed ;p Jun 11 10:12:38 g10 what line is giving the NPE? Jun 11 10:12:41 I more like the to put off the issue of causing kernels to hard lock with my OpenGL code Jun 11 10:12:46 I've named things NoClueWhatToCallThisClass Jun 11 10:13:04 lasserix accountSpinner.addView(tv); Jun 11 10:13:18 line 8 Jun 11 10:13:35 where is this code taking place? Jun 11 10:14:05 Mostly just need a check if (adreno && GLDriver == V14) Enable OGLES3; :P Jun 11 10:14:47 i have an inner class that extends SimpleCursorAdapter. which method should i override here to set my ImageView? Jun 11 10:14:57 my activity connect bind to a service, that code is excuted when the conncetion is done so i can get data from the service Jun 11 10:15:20 accountSpinner context is the activity? Jun 11 10:15:30 it should be Jun 11 10:15:53 i have tryed also using AcivityName.thi as context but obtain the same exception Jun 11 10:16:28 did you determine if accountSpinner or tv is showing up as null ( ie if (accP == null) { Log.d('its the spiner') } ? Jun 11 10:16:44 yes Jun 11 10:17:10 as you can see i call methods on them before of that they dont' raise nullpointerexception Jun 11 10:17:44 but anyway i have tested them with that if in other version of the code to understand what was giving the exception Jun 11 10:18:06 g10 i feel like one of your contexts isn't right Jun 11 10:18:14 like if you are trying to call this in the service Jun 11 10:18:26 what you have to do is pass the info to the activity, then call this Jun 11 10:18:51 yes the emthod is in the actovity Jun 11 10:19:05 but are you calling the method from the service? Jun 11 10:20:34 Is there a constant id one could use for "no resource reference"? I assume 0 (or -1) is appropriate, but... Jun 11 10:20:59 lasserix i think it is not called by the services Jun 11 10:22:15 g10 you mean the activity is current when this is called? Jun 11 10:22:20 the method is called by as a callback of ServiceConnection.onServiceConnected that is inside the activity not on the service Jun 11 10:22:54 is accountSpinner a spinner? Jun 11 10:23:01 yes Jun 11 10:23:11 um Jun 11 10:23:17 i dont think you can use addView on a spinner? Jun 11 10:23:32 how to add elements on spinner ? Jun 11 10:23:42 you have to use some adapter, Jun 11 10:24:00 so ther eis no simple way ? Jun 11 10:24:18 you can use a simple arrayadapter Jun 11 10:24:41 http://start-jandroid.blogspot.com/2011/01/android-spinner-example.html Jun 11 10:24:47 thanks lasserix i'll try to do that and see what happen ;) Jun 11 10:24:48 or http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1625249/android-how-to-bind-spinner-to-custom-object-list for custom Jun 11 10:26:58 omid8: while it looks like you should be able to do it easily, i think you might have to implement a custom adapter to do that Jun 11 11:27:47 fucking Toast .show() grr Jun 11 11:29:57 so... should i expect problems if i use eclipse 4.2 for android development? Jun 11 11:34:45 Don't see why you would hrnt - never really had any issues with Eclipse for Android development, ranging from pre 2.0 to current day. Jun 11 11:35:32 after updates eclipse stopped to generate R class Jun 11 11:35:36 if i extend from SimpleCursorAdapter, which method i should override to show cursor data in my views? (4 textview and one imageview) Jun 11 11:35:45 i have tried to clean and rebuild project but didn't worked :| Jun 11 11:36:15 Make sure you're not importing android.R. Had that issue a few times. Jun 11 11:36:46 Strangely though, I've sometimes had to import the projects R implicitly in order to get access to R - doesn't seem right to me, but importing it has worked for me. Jun 11 11:37:35 no im not importing it Jun 11 11:37:48 moreover in the folder res no error is reported :| Jun 11 11:38:10 the gen folde is empty :| Jun 11 11:38:58 Try the answer given here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3002722/gen-folder-disappearing-in-eclipse-android-project Jun 11 11:39:05 Perhaps your build settings have gone a bit screwy Jun 11 11:40:34 i am taking a look thankls for pointing it ;) Jun 11 11:42:16 No problem Jun 11 12:08:32 what do ppl use instead of slidingdrawer these days? Jun 11 12:08:44 ... it already became obsolete? Jun 11 12:08:49 yep Jun 11 12:09:35 what's the newest ui navigation trend? Jun 11 12:10:08 http://developer.android.com/design/patterns/navigation-drawer.html Jun 11 12:10:12 lasserix: riverdance on tablet? ;) Jun 11 12:10:27 thx karlo|w Jun 11 12:10:31 p_l: seriousily Jun 11 12:10:40 i i have trying everything to make eclipse works, but it seems after the last update nothing is capable of make eclipse to return to asnity... i am trying android studio, someone have good experience with it ? Jun 11 12:11:04 oh to me sliding drawer ~= navigation drawer Jun 11 12:11:24 lasserix: yeah, me too Jun 11 12:18:36 hey Jun 11 12:18:45 do you recommend pull to refresh design pattern? if so do you have any recommended library? Jun 11 12:19:05 p_l: i'd love to get a crystal ball navigation! Jun 11 12:19:19 e.g. a onBeforeUserClick() event Jun 11 12:20:06 pen, some people argue it should be avoided, but the newest gmail app actually has it (works a little bit different than typical implementation though) Jun 11 12:20:09 monsti: that can actually be supported Jun 11 12:20:35 yeah with mental training ;) Jun 11 12:20:47 karlo|w: so what do you think? is there a better alternatives? or good lirbaries Jun 11 12:20:53 monsti: nope, with the appropriate hardware ;) Jun 11 12:21:10 implementation wise I recommend https://github.com/chrisbanes/Android-PullToRefresh Jun 11 12:21:25 "you are booting the Samsung S5 - please put the USB plug in your brain..." Jun 11 12:21:41 "... mounting /dev/nsa" Jun 11 12:21:42 monsti: xperia sola Jun 11 12:21:57 pen, read this http://cyrilmottier.com/2012/03/28/the-pull-to-refresh-an-anti-ui-pattern-on-android/ Jun 11 12:22:23 but as I said even google pulled it out now which was surprising for me Jun 11 12:22:54 pen, usually pull-to-refresh really isn't a native Android pattern Jun 11 12:23:07 since listviews don't have an overscroll effect like iOS views do Jun 11 12:23:08 Mavrik: then what is it? Jun 11 12:23:13 Mavrik: yea, I noticed Jun 11 12:23:14 well, go check the apps Jun 11 12:23:31 you'll see that they have mostly refresh button in action bar (see G+, Press, etc.) Jun 11 12:23:43 however, some apps still do have PTR effect (twitter, Gmail, etc) Jun 11 12:24:04 also, remember, since there's no built-in overscroll you'll have hellova time making listviews do the overscroll properly :) Jun 11 12:24:33 interesting Jun 11 12:24:43 gmail pull to refresh doesn't have elastic scroll Jun 11 12:25:07 probably because every implementation has some problems Jun 11 12:25:23 yeah, because they're mostly faking it with fake listview items Jun 11 12:25:41 which totaly fucks up item positions and makes animations that deal with listview changes 100x harder to handle Jun 11 12:26:24 or they use header item Jun 11 12:26:39 the one I linked uses it afair Jun 11 12:27:59 karlo|w, no it doesn't Jun 11 12:28:12 at least not in default configuration that lets you scroll the list Jun 11 12:28:25 (I just had the honor of implementing it :P ) Jun 11 12:29:52 ok, I guess I will just implement a refresh button Jun 11 12:29:53 easier Jun 11 12:29:54 :P Jun 11 12:31:35 pen: do you come before pfn Jun 11 12:31:46 ? pfn? Jun 11 12:36:21 nevermind Jun 11 12:36:36 ugh getting gradle errors again, doesnt seem to be exporting the guava crapola Jun 11 12:52:57 i have a custom application object, how can i get a handle on it? is this getApplicationContext() ? Jun 11 12:55:07 ye' Jun 11 13:13:12 I cannot access Project Structure under ANdroid Studio, where am I supposed to do "Add As Library"? Jun 11 13:14:03 in my top-level settings.gradle there is only include ':myProject' and in the other settings.gradle I have included the Jar I need and it shows up in the project, yet when running I get a ClassNotFound exception Jun 11 13:14:17 here's the problem exactly, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16608135/android-studio-add-jar-as-library Jun 11 13:14:26 but I don't have access to step 2 of the solution Jun 11 13:15:55 How to get raw touches ? Jun 11 13:16:04 i mean not filtered by anything ? Jun 11 13:16:40 hmm any fails because it cant delete bin/ and as usually windows says its in use, this is ridiculous Jun 11 13:16:52 I just want to know how what happen when there are two click simultaneously (almost in the same time) Jun 11 13:23:52 argh, fuck Gradle Jun 11 13:27:18 using sql, i have an intentservice that updates the db. and i have a fragment that can read from this db. how can i ensure that this reading does not happen during an update? Jun 11 13:43:45 hello. I have a lengthy but important question. anyone wants to participate for 150 points bountry ? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17005837/persistent-foreground-android-service-that-starts-by-ui-and-also-starts-at-boot Jun 11 13:46:23 Sircle: I have two such apps... yaxim and aprsdroid :> Jun 11 13:47:04 Sircle: but your post is tl;dr Jun 11 13:49:13 Ge0rG: are those apps opensourced? and whats tl;dr? Jun 11 13:49:39 too long; didn't read Jun 11 13:49:49 Loader question: in the fragment lifecycle, is it better to call initLoader() from the fragment's onActivityCreated() or onStart() ? Jun 11 13:50:04 Sircle: yes, they are both. google the names / look on github. what ecraven said. Jun 11 13:51:32