**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 22 02:59:58 2013 Jun 22 03:00:33 Xabster: ah, the drawColor function just calls drawColorRect, passing the clip coords! Jun 22 03:00:50 as i was expecting, the Canvas for a single view, has a reference to the canvas of the entire window Jun 22 03:00:57 with clipping applied to all operations Jun 22 03:01:02 yes Jun 22 03:01:08 so internaly, they all refer to a single bitmap Jun 22 03:01:09 restricted coordinates Jun 22 03:01:12 yes Jun 22 03:01:13 that Jun 22 03:01:16 's normal Jun 22 03:01:23 and the window compositor maps them together in the end Jun 22 03:01:40 does it have double buffering built in ? Jun 22 03:01:44 normaly just 3 window objects i think, status, activity, and softkeys Jun 22 03:01:47 there is no composition at that level Jun 22 03:02:16 shmooz: i believe the double buffering comes in much later, when the compositor copies the 3 windows i mentioned into the inactive buffer Jun 22 03:02:19 and then flips Jun 22 03:02:19 there's an editable bitmap that is only editable from the right parts of your code Jun 22 03:02:26 but only if the hardware driver declares support Jun 22 03:03:01 Xabster: do you happen to know much about gralloc and the compositor? Jun 22 03:03:11 i think I disagree, where do you see compositor in the native code? Jun 22 03:03:13 none at all Jun 22 03:03:30 Xabster: its not within canvas, its at another layer, i have a link on it somewhere... Jun 22 03:05:22 Xabster: http://source.android.com/devices/graphics.html Jun 22 03:06:08 i see Jun 22 03:06:24 Xabster: mainly, the hardware composer section Jun 22 03:06:24 the compositor is what makes transparency possible then of course Jun 22 03:06:55 dont think it has that feature, i think what your seing is just transparency within a window window Jun 22 03:07:02 drawing over the existing content of the bitmap Jun 22 03:07:32 Xabster: http://source.android.com/devices/graphics.html#hwc first bullet point Jun 22 03:08:05 good to know Jun 22 03:08:15 i'm rather new to android though, but java for many years Jun 22 03:08:21 normal apps only ever have access to the main window surface Jun 22 03:08:33 only way to access the others is to start getting into custom roms Jun 22 03:10:09 are you making a game and trying to push performance? Jun 22 03:10:17 nowhere close Jun 22 03:10:24 but i have tried to fix the raspberry pi port Jun 22 03:10:35 2 odd bugs interacting in a weird way Jun 22 03:10:55 1st one, somebody made a major typo in the kernel driver, causing it to claim double-buffering doesnt work Jun 22 03:11:12 2nd one, if i fix #1, it just draws solid black to the screen Jun 22 03:11:29 raspberry pi port? Jun 22 03:11:39 oh, ported version Jun 22 03:11:47 i was confused for a second there Jun 22 03:12:23 Xabster: http://elinux.org/RPi_Beginners Jun 22 03:12:40 i know what a pi is Jun 22 03:13:09 i thought someone had made a physical port like hdmi port to connect to raspberry pi's from a specific android device Jun 22 03:13:13 it's 05:13 am here Jun 22 03:13:16 i can kinda get android to boot, but due to the 2 above bus, the graphics performance is horrible Jun 22 03:13:51 also, the 1st bug, only triggers for screen resolutions over 512 pixels high Jun 22 03:14:06 anything smaller (composite video out) and it claims to support double-buffering, causing the 2nd bug to blank the screen Jun 22 03:14:24 i think i spent several hours trying to get it to work on my tv Jun 22 03:16:52 i should also get to bed soon, getting late here Jun 22 03:18:37 so for intellij / gradle; is an intellij module most closely related to a gradle sourceSet ? Jun 22 03:24:39 Does anyone have recommendations for open-source Android apps I should read to get better with Android development? Or any other recommendations for someone who knows Java and wants to get up to speed on Android? Jun 22 03:39:19 cheese: developer tutorial docs Jun 22 03:40:11 How can i turn the back / home / recent app icons on the soft menu bar into diamonds? Jun 22 03:40:54 lots of heat and pressure Jun 22 03:41:13 that's soooo 1800s Jun 22 03:41:19 these days we're using nano printers Jun 22 03:41:19 :) Jun 22 03:41:33 but i mean uhh like minimal mode, ive seen it on some of the fulls creen games Jun 22 03:44:17 byte o bit developing navigational toggles for 3d games is a long process Jun 22 03:44:30 far far worse than designing layouts for different screen sizes Jun 22 03:49:03 it's called Lights Off Mode. there's a SYSTEM UI flag you set for it Jun 22 03:49:37 ahh and now im out of papers Jun 22 03:49:43 oh thanks kevinb Jun 22 03:52:15 ok, i guess then a intellij module is like a gradle sub project Jun 22 03:53:00 kevinb: do you know min api for that? Jun 22 03:53:14 looks like 11 Jun 22 03:53:32 i think there are multiple flags for it. some came with honeycomb and some newer ones came with ICS or JB Jun 22 03:54:18 navbars didn't exist prior to 11 so the 11 one should be good. i can't remember what the advantage of the newer ones is. Jun 22 03:59:41 anyone try using http websocket client lib on android? Jun 22 04:18:05 can we use java 1.7 ? Jun 22 04:18:43 yes Jun 22 04:18:56 when did that start? Jun 22 04:19:18 unless by chance you have mac os x 10.7 - i recommend staying with apple java if you already have it installed Jun 22 04:19:39 nah I'm on windows atm Jun 22 04:20:01 java 7 used to not be supported though Jun 22 04:24:43 they said it is now ; web site has old info Jun 22 04:37:06 java 7 syntax? Jun 22 04:40:44 V-Vega: i've only been exposed to the one the IRC Cloud guys use Jun 22 04:40:53 working on our own impl (slowly) Jun 22 04:41:31 https://github.com/c99koder/android-websockets Jun 22 04:42:47 yo Jun 22 04:42:55 mistype Jun 22 04:44:14 g00s: all java 7 language features? Jun 22 04:44:21 Xabster no Jun 22 04:44:27 set compliance to 1.6 Jun 22 04:44:39 some java 7 features work Jun 22 04:45:42 diamond operator and multi catch and string switch I believe too Jun 22 04:45:45 but not try with resource Jun 22 04:50:31 fuck the ides Jun 22 04:51:06 intellij won't let me create a test module for some reason; 'tested module' says [none] .. won't let me change, and i have library module in the project Jun 22 04:52:31 g00s, test modules? you writing FPGA? Jun 22 04:53:03 heh, no that would be more fun tho Jun 22 04:53:16 hells yea it would be Jun 22 04:54:29 bit o bit is it nice when raw code runs (mostly) as planned on the first try Jun 22 04:54:52 parco work with fpga? which tools are you using? Jun 22 04:54:57 xilinx Jun 22 04:55:07 oh man, how much did that cost ? Jun 22 04:55:25 they're free my friend Jun 22 04:55:32 hm Jun 22 04:58:14 android studio better than IDEA and eclipse? aye or nay? Jun 22 04:58:23 they all suck Jun 22 04:58:46 Xabster: who cares Jun 22 04:58:51 the whole android ecosystem seems to be a steaming pile Jun 22 04:58:54 me, obviously Jun 22 05:04:01 Xabster i think you saw me ask in #eclipse if there will be any more 3.x releases - they said no Jun 22 05:04:14 so? Jun 22 05:04:18 so, i guess it depends on if you like kepler; which will be out next week Jun 22 05:04:56 wheter or not android studio is better? Jun 22 05:05:11 maybe, but then it also depends on new versions of IDEA and AS Jun 22 05:05:17 so let's compare what we have :) Jun 22 05:05:18 yeah Jun 22 05:05:33 kepler is gonna have baby issues too Jun 22 05:17:16 man I'll tell ya, Samsung Remote Test Lab would be a great thing if it worked Jun 22 05:17:21 too funny. so i'm trying to create an empty project in intellij (project without modules). its there in the list of things to create. when i try though, it says "cannot save settings: enter a module name" Jun 22 05:26:19 yeah, so give the module a name Jun 22 05:26:41 parco its a bug Jun 22 05:26:51 oops, Xabster :) Jun 22 05:26:58 what is? Jun 22 05:27:12 there is no place to enter a name for a module, because its a empty project without modules Jun 22 05:27:34 so apparently if you select one of the other facets, start to type something, and then select another one, idea gets really confused Jun 22 05:27:44 it works for me Jun 22 05:28:07 i'm using 12.1.4 and its 100% reproducible for me Jun 22 05:28:20 steps? Jun 22 05:28:42 anyhow, i just backed out of the new project dialog, and made sure empty project was the first one i selected Jun 22 05:31:04 holy shit, i just made intellij crash outrite Jun 22 05:40:03 I'm using a com.google.android.gms.common.SignInButton in combo with a call to GoogleAuthUtil.getToken after AccountPicker.newChooseAccountIntent. This creates a bright red G+ login button. Does anybody know if it will work for people who ONLY have a gmail address (and are not on G+)? Jun 22 05:40:30 Hard to test on a real app since alpha/beta testing requires people to be on G+ already... Jun 22 05:49:10 well thats enough for tonight... Jun 22 05:49:13 g'night all Jun 22 05:49:19 thanks for the help as usual... Jun 22 05:50:42 no sleep Jun 22 05:50:51 androids apps to be written! Jun 22 06:16:58 I could still use some proguard help Jun 22 06:17:15 I have an activity that derives from v4 support's FragmentActivity Jun 22 06:17:24 so it gets setContentView from its parent class Jun 22 06:17:29 however, I get this: Jun 22 06:17:55 Error: ProGuard: [blah] Warning: blah.blah.MyActivity: can't find referenced method 'void setContentView(int) Jun 22 06:18:02 ' in class blah.blah.MyActivity Jun 22 06:30:21 turn off proguard :) Jun 22 07:15:14 would eye tracking be a difficult app you think? Jun 22 07:16:42 if numberOfApps < 3 && numberOfYearsProgramming < 4 && unsureOfTaskPercent < 50 ….. . then yeah Jun 22 07:18:34 btw I just made that up Jun 22 07:18:38 :) Jun 22 07:18:56 lol Jun 22 07:19:03 StringRay - I'm tempted to Jun 22 07:19:06 but just so you know, asking the question in the first place is a bad start Jun 22 07:19:20 why man? just trying to get a feel Jun 22 07:19:32 as to how hard it'd be to wing it Jun 22 07:19:35 cause A ) it means you have no idea of whats envolved Jun 22 07:19:56 and b ) based of A ) you have no idea of the concepts that are needed Jun 22 07:20:39 delta pixel data maps and heavy math + some wicked error tollerances are ….well…. not easy to do right Jun 22 07:21:11 all you had to say man Jun 22 07:21:20 no need to get fired up Jun 22 07:21:30 not fired up Jun 22 07:21:43 unfortunate for me, not even close to fired up Jun 22 07:21:51 get HYPED Jun 22 07:22:03 it 8:21 am and I'm about 5 coffees short of even being awake Jun 22 07:22:12 lol Jun 22 07:22:18 drink greentea :) Jun 22 07:22:25 your a girl Jun 22 07:22:38 cause that why my g/f says all the time Jun 22 07:22:44 greentea = healthiest drink in the world...afaik and i've researched it a lot Jun 22 07:22:53 but as I understand, thats a calming thing though Jun 22 07:22:57 plus greentea = caffeine but no crash like coffee Jun 22 07:23:04 if I were any calmer atm I would be in a coma Jun 22 07:23:19 * Leeds goes to get his breakfast green tea Jun 22 07:23:27 omg your all girls Jun 22 07:23:40 well you have a cultural excuse Leeds Jun 22 07:23:48 but only just Jun 22 07:24:05 real men eat bacon as sweets, smoke, and drink coffee Jun 22 07:24:07 :) Jun 22 07:24:24 dam I need a cig Jun 22 07:24:31 don't smoke man Jun 22 07:24:43 stuff so terrible, is literally rat poision, among other things Jun 22 07:25:07 I don't eat bacon or smoke :) Jun 22 07:25:09 yeah I dont do packets/processed Jun 22 07:25:26 greentea helps protect your body against alcohol dmg, liver dmg, lot of diseases etc...but smoking is so terrible Jun 22 07:25:42 and you will find that most sweetners are pure rat poison Jun 22 07:25:47 grew up having to breathe that crap in, glad society finally turned their back on it Jun 22 07:25:48 and I avoid them Jun 22 07:27:03 yeah my missus told me artifical sweetners are bad Jun 22 07:27:07 in the past Jun 22 07:27:16 being android devs we need to stay in shape Jun 22 07:27:21 so are all the diet drinks Jun 22 07:27:27 coke, pepsi etc Jun 22 07:27:42 I use to drink coke/pepsi like it was water, because it was so cheap Jun 22 07:28:01 stuff rots your teeth though, I rarely ever drink it, maybe once or twice a year, or every few years now Jun 22 07:30:26 Leeds: no bacon?!? Jun 22 07:30:43 bacon does sound good :) Jun 22 07:30:48 I won't deny Jun 22 07:31:04 JakeWharton: god says no Jun 22 07:31:29 gods are replaceable... bacon is not! Jun 22 07:31:36 (or actually: upbringing/tradition says no) Jun 22 07:31:46 Only one true God Jake Jun 22 07:31:54 bacon is pretty good though, turkey bacon Jun 22 07:31:56 and normal Jun 22 07:32:06 Andy Rubin is the one true God Jun 22 07:32:15 I'm not sure I'd credit Jake with being the one true God Jun 22 07:32:15 my parents cook it to where it's crispy...I think it takes the flavor out Jun 22 07:32:27 I like it with fat on it still Jun 22 07:34:43 how does one alter the theme used for something like a button or dialog (date time pickers etc) from code ? Jun 22 07:34:48 is it even possible ? Jun 22 07:35:04 you can't alter the theme at runtime Jun 22 07:35:14 you can change a button's style in a few ways though Jun 22 07:35:32 well was more the holo dark light I wanted Jun 22 07:35:42 and dialogs mainly Jun 22 07:35:49 like date and time pickers Jun 22 07:36:15 android and it's style system …ugh… they have to improve this Jun 22 07:37:07 they won't, and it's not that bad when you come to understand it Jun 22 07:37:23 depends on which attributes your rating it Jun 22 07:37:35 on my set, it's really bad Jun 22 07:38:17 considering the style is approaching a two-digit age I think it's pretty impressive how powerful it is and how much forethought went into it Jun 22 07:38:40 *style system Jun 22 07:39:03 powerful ? you and I disagree there :) Jun 22 07:39:26 unless your idea of power is inheritance Jun 22 07:39:57 mine is adaptive and changeable, in this case Jun 22 07:41:14 if you say so. i've been able to do some pretty compelling things with it Jun 22 07:42:56 sure you can do very compelling things, just dont hope to dynmically alter those compelling things or have any freedoms over it Jun 22 07:42:58 :) Jun 22 07:43:11 I should have more days like this, where I just code Android at home ... instead of C# at work. Jun 22 07:43:59 your overly vague descriptions of dynamism don't really speak to whether the fault is yours or the resource system Jun 22 07:44:30 use case, I want a user to be able to set shadle level of a theme Jun 22 07:44:52 use case, based on even x, I want ui element Y to use a different style Jun 22 07:45:06 the latter is easy with a ContextThemeWrapper Jun 22 07:45:11 use case I want the user to be able to pick a button style Jun 22 07:45:20 same thing there Jun 22 07:45:31 hmmm Jun 22 07:45:38 the first case would require a bit of work though Jun 22 07:45:47 we used to do something similar where the theme could be based on 64 different colors Jun 22 07:46:42 we had light and dark control drawables on which we adjusted the alpha with a flat color behind them Jun 22 07:46:56 maybe it was only 32. 64 sounds like a lot Jun 22 07:47:56 thankfully the designers that liked that moved on and we expunged it just as fast as possible, was terrible UX... and usually just flat-out ugly Jun 22 07:49:06 well I have my own custom objects I use as styles now, that allow me to use attribs to do a few things that I could not see how to do with styles Jun 22 07:49:17 or still with ContextWrapper Jun 22 07:49:41 a context theme wrapper is only useful if there's a finite amount of choices Jun 22 07:49:51 and they are known at compile-time Jun 22 07:49:52 re Jun 22 07:50:08 also, not really open to change based on event x for individual item a Jun 22 07:50:51 true, we're burdened by a UI stack that was designed to compete with a 2005 blackberry, not a 2007 iPhone Jun 22 07:51:39 well I've found since ditching xml, and styles, as an artist I can get more of what I want, just easier and quicker Jun 22 07:51:52 but I do call date/time pickers :) Jun 22 07:52:52 what a movie Johnny Got His Gun Jun 22 07:54:10 rburton-: just read synopsis ...fk!!! Jun 22 07:54:32 your on about the 1971 film ? Jun 22 07:54:45 Metallica has a song with words from it Jun 22 07:54:49 made me look it up Jun 22 07:56:51 the part where they're playing cards with jesus one guy turns to him and says "He's not going to die, whys he here?" Jun 22 08:13:11 I dont reccomend updating to latest build of AS Jun 22 08:13:34 for some reason in a lib project it looses some R references Jun 22 08:13:42 I keep having to re-build Jun 22 08:13:45 odd Jun 22 08:22:59 anyone here on latest (as of few hours) version of AndroidStudio ? Jun 22 08:23:29 I'm having to do a full build everytime now… wondered if anyone has the same prob Jun 22 08:38:33 Yes, it's dog slow. Jun 22 08:38:48 reading https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=56843&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars Jun 22 08:38:53 what a fkup Jun 22 08:40:23 kjeldahl: you know how to rollback a version ? Jun 22 08:41:27 Nope, haven't tried. They do seem to push updates quite often, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Jun 22 08:44:14 Have you tried downloading the whole AS distribution? Maybe you could do a step-by-step upgrade? Jun 22 09:55:36 so Jun 22 09:55:49 I would love you to death if you could help me out with some proguard problems Jun 22 09:56:55 * StingRay_ is not interested in "man" love, and equally not interested in having enough of it so it would kill me Jun 22 09:57:19 don't deny your feelings Jun 22 10:03:20 you tried turning it off and on ? Jun 22 10:03:22 :) Jun 22 10:05:06 I wish IT Crowd would make another season Jun 22 10:08:55 Why is Google's Navigation Drawer so much harder to use than simonVT's? :P Jun 22 10:09:55 because unlike SimonVT's it forces usage convention on you Jun 22 10:10:03 rather than letting you descide :) Jun 22 10:10:15 Damn it usage convention, always getting in the way of genius Jun 22 10:10:39 usage convention = same old, genuis = new :) Jun 22 10:11:21 That's right! Jun 22 10:15:42 Because google likes to over engineer things Jun 22 10:17:13 love them or hate them, Microsoft makes the best IDE's for sure, visual studio .net makes designing visual stuff insanely easy, i've never seen anything remotely like it yet Jun 22 10:17:15 i think they try to do that with the purpose of combating crappy apps from devs that know nothing about design Jun 22 10:17:29 hopefully google puts all those highly payed engineers on it, and copy Microsofts work Jun 22 10:17:42 for android :) Jun 22 10:17:47 In any case, I'm getting it. It's just annoying Jun 22 10:29:03 Does the Android Navigation Drawer require the content frame to be a framelayout? :/ Jun 22 10:35:03 how is that a problem? Jun 22 10:35:32 I don't know Android development well enough :P Jun 22 10:38:33 * StingRay_ is having his 1xt green tea Jun 22 10:38:37 1st Jun 22 10:38:47 tastes like burnt rat sh*t Jun 22 10:38:59 but hey ho it's good for me Jun 22 10:39:14 erm, and the obvious question... Jun 22 10:39:38 speculation Jun 22 10:39:45 I'm and artist Jun 22 10:39:47 interesting Jun 22 10:39:47 I can imagine Jun 22 10:51:07 How can I find an already created nested fragment? Jun 22 10:53:40 has anyone here used opencv4android? Jun 22 10:59:26 I drink the best tea, loose leaf half Earl Grey Half Ceylon with fresh ginger that I boil for 5 minutes before putting in the tea Jun 22 11:00:14 hmmm, yeah g/f was showing me how to measure the temp with a little probe before puring etc Jun 22 11:00:32 odd Jun 22 11:01:46 StingRay_, Thermometer? Jun 22 11:02:05 yeah, wtf is all that about Jun 22 11:02:10 70 degrees sh*t Jun 22 11:02:22 ugh, last thing I need on a morning is more complication Jun 22 11:02:24 Different teas need to be steeped at different temperatures Jun 22 11:02:46 * StingRay_ misses smoking, and the simplicity of coffee Jun 22 11:02:47 :) Jun 22 11:03:13 Good rule of thumb is dark teas need to be made in boiling water while lighter teas it is a bit lower Jun 22 11:03:33 see I even thought green tea was a type Jun 22 11:03:34 this is the tea I buy from the Afgan supermarket http://persiangrocery.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/alghazaleen-ceylon-earl-grey-tea.jpg Jun 22 11:03:46 but there are loads of green teas Jun 22 11:04:03 Matcha is my favourite green tea Jun 22 11:04:27 * StingRay_ doesn't even know what he's drinking at the moment Jun 22 11:04:36 other than "my g/f gave it to me" Jun 22 11:04:44 I poured the water though Jun 22 11:04:46 :) Jun 22 11:06:06 holy fk, I just went to get a refil, the canteen ….the tea…. it now looks like an underwater jungle Jun 22 11:06:35 I have a fresh water tropical fish tank that looks cleaner than my tea Jun 22 11:08:16 green tea is healthy and doesn't go well with cigs, so stick to that, it just doesn't taste much like tea to me though, since I been a real black tea drinker ever since Jun 22 11:09:12 pardon my absolute lack of knowledge, green and black just refer to the actual leaf color then ? Jun 22 11:09:19 hi , guys , i use textview to show a content with 3 or 4 lines , i have two question about it , how can i change the line heigh between them and also how can adjust all text ! help please Jun 22 11:09:19 and there are many different types of each Jun 22 11:09:40 no there's a real tea plant that's just tea Jun 22 11:10:27 kamali: http://bit.ly/131xymd Jun 22 11:10:31 i'm a huge huge tea drinker, so let me answer this Jun 22 11:10:45 white,black, green all come from the same plant, they're just harvested at different times Jun 22 11:11:03 from my research green tea seems to be the heathiest of the 3 Jun 22 11:11:12 hmmm ok Jun 22 11:11:31 and seems to be the healthiest drink in the world.. helps protect against tons of major diseases Jun 22 11:12:03 and lots of benefits, they're still being studied Jun 22 11:12:17 the name of the plant is Camellia sinensis Jun 22 11:12:29 thats why you get 200 year old kungfu chineese masters :) Jun 22 11:12:51 china/japan been drinking it for like 1000+ years, and both countries have highest life expectancy rates of any other countries...so it's possible it plays a role, since they're the top consumers of the stuff too Jun 22 11:12:56 like on Kill Bill 2 Jun 22 11:13:32 I better not be drink GM green tea Jun 22 11:13:40 that would piss me off Jun 22 11:13:55 dinking* Jun 22 11:13:56 you could be getting Chernobyl Tea, watch out Jun 22 11:14:05 or Fukishima Tea Jun 22 11:14:19 ew this tea now tastes very crap, 2nd cup from same canteen Jun 22 11:14:24 http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5560171&page=1 there's 25 health benefits, interesting list. I will say this, stay away from green tea supplements, some of that stuff is like 50 glasses in a little pill...obviously terrible for your liver Jun 22 11:14:25 very bitter Jun 22 11:15:08 also some have had bone deformaties from drinking insane excesses of it due to the floride in it and in water...10 or less glasses a day should be good, gallons and gallons is not, obviously Jun 22 11:16:10 it's suppoes to help with bones, teeth, breathe, hair, brain, help protect liver, etc... but like anything, if in excess can be harmful. It contains about half the caffeine as a cup of coffee but doesn't make you crash due to an ingrediant I can't think off of top of my head Jun 22 11:16:15 that's all i'll say about that Jun 22 11:16:16 :p Jun 22 11:19:16 the taste comment is amusing, lot of people say that, I think it tastest good Jun 22 11:19:43 coffee can be good, but it can be hard to swallow, depending Jun 22 11:21:06 yay, got the Google Navigation Drawer working, was just a bit of a pain Jun 22 11:21:14 but I now understand how it works...forever @_@ Jun 22 11:21:27 you should write a step by step tutorial(with pictures) Jun 22 11:21:35 and explain it to others :D Jun 22 11:23:44 StingRay_: im sorry , but im a newbie android developer , so can u just direct me to a solution .. and i think this channel made for problems , in other ways everbody knows where google is ! Jun 22 11:25:08 is this channel related to the android-dev subreddit? Jun 22 11:29:20 mdev, I think so Jun 22 11:31:23 mdev, "How to replace FrameLayout with fancy listview" Jun 22 11:31:25 :P Jun 22 11:32:28 http://cyrilmottier.com/2011/08/08/listview-tips-tricks-3-create-fancy-listviews/ Jun 22 11:54:35 i have a method on one class as "public String getLocation().." and i wanna know if i can use its output in the main activity as like this: "mLocation = LocationClass.getLocation();" ? Jun 22 12:01:04 omid8bimo: since its not a static method (assuming your m ethod signature is right) ofc you cannot call it on the class, but need an instance to call it on Jun 22 12:02:49 timroes: i created the instance, and its not static. but my question is on the addressing part in the main activity. i wanna know if its correct to put "return null" at the end of the class and map it to a String in the main activity? Jun 22 12:03:36 Hello guys. I want my app to clean some cache's on the GC-Event. Is this possible? My App could trigger itself depending on the memory situation, however It would be nice if it could also do that on user GC-request Jun 22 12:03:38 of course, if "return null" at the end of method is correct! since its supposed to return an String, should i return something else other than null? Jun 22 12:05:03 I want a google/IO t-shirt :P Jun 22 12:07:13 is anyone selling it here? :) Jun 22 12:13:01 I have one Jun 22 12:13:04 what are you offering Jun 22 12:14:00 I wouldn't say no to a spacious yacht Jun 22 12:17:14 hah ;) Jun 22 12:17:25 then I better try to get a ticket next year :p Jun 22 12:18:47 cool Jun 22 12:18:51 bring me a shirt if you manage Jun 22 12:21:49 everyone gets only one i think Jun 22 12:34:46 I have a compiled jar that I've added as a dependency to my project Jun 22 12:34:54 it requires some .so files to function... Jun 22 12:34:58 what should I do to fix this? Jun 22 12:35:10 get this working* Jun 22 12:37:07 hmm Jun 22 12:37:12 liquidmetal, does it use JNI? Jun 22 12:37:20 yes Jun 22 12:37:35 opencv is the library... if you're familiar with that Jun 22 12:37:40 mhm Jun 22 12:38:05 are your .sos already compiled for armv7 and/or other architectures you're gonna be running the app on? Jun 22 12:38:19 hello, I'm running Debian Wheezy and just downloaded ADT Bundle, and trying to run "hello world" application on AVD, but when I set it up and click on Start and Launch, emulator doesn't show up and doesn't boot. Could it be because I have openjdk, not sun jdk? Jun 22 12:38:37 Mavrik, yes Jun 22 12:38:41 openjdk should work, emulator isn't java code anyway Jun 22 12:38:57 liquidmetal, then the .so files go into "libs/armeabi-v7a" folder of your app project Jun 22 12:39:04 or armeabi if they're compiled for armv5te Jun 22 12:39:19 upon install Android will unpack them and System.loadlibrary() call will find them there Jun 22 12:39:22 armeabi it is Jun 22 12:39:34 oh - it needs to be in a dir named armeabi? Jun 22 12:39:38 Mavrik, so how could I find out why it doesn't run? Jun 22 12:39:44 liquidmetal, yeah Jun 22 12:39:57 liquidmetal, since you can have multiple copies of same file in different dirs depending on the architecture Jun 22 12:40:03 armeabi/armeabi-v7a/x86/mips Jun 22 12:40:16 liquidmetal, play store will also do filtering according to presence of those folders Jun 22 12:42:25 nice! thanks! Jun 22 12:47:00 is it possible to decompile android .bin file? Jun 22 12:49:05 In shared preferences I could store only key - value pairs ? Jun 22 12:49:19 bluesm: what else would you want ? Jun 22 12:49:24 And Anyway everything is converted to string ? Jun 22 12:49:57 StingRay_: I would like to just have one array of string.. (Maybe list, that I could make bigger) Jun 22 12:51:46 it says it is running but i can't simply see anything.. Jun 22 12:52:18 bluesm: sounds like database work Jun 22 12:52:25 StingRay_: Current solution I use, is make the keys 1 , 2 , 3, 4 ... And so on. Jun 22 12:52:38 sharedPrefs is an xml file Jun 22 12:52:46 for basic things Jun 22 12:53:03 you could use json i suppose Jun 22 12:53:04 StingRay_: It sound basic :P ? List of task ? Jun 22 12:53:22