**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 24 02:59:59 2013 Jul 24 03:28:59 im trying to put a webview in a FrameLayout Jul 24 03:33:54 i'm attempting to figure out why I have visual fkups! Jul 24 03:39:06 very interesting, as well as the "android needing a anti-gruber" comment (which I agree with) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6094141 Jul 24 03:39:54 g00s: I suspect there are lots of potential anti-grubers, but they've been swallowed up by the Borg Jul 24 03:40:19 :) Jul 24 03:41:01 I also don't quite understand gruber... he's a rabidly pro-Apple blogger who mostly posts links with short commentary, and occasional longer pieces Jul 24 03:41:50 he doesn't seem, to me, to have enough output to have the sort of profile he's given Jul 24 03:43:06 i dont follow any of these people, but once in a while a blog will pop up on HN which i find insightful. i have no idea what gruber does otherwise Jul 24 03:44:14 i never even replaced google reader :( Jul 24 03:44:28 is it bad I dont even know who John Gruber is ? Jul 24 03:44:53 course not Jul 24 03:45:39 just looking at the last few entries on his blog, they're pretty much all one-line comments on someone else's story, sometimes with a quote called out, sometimes not Jul 24 03:47:47 he makes some good points, he posts some good links, but he's mostly a short-form blogger... so I'm not sure how he's so high-profile Jul 24 03:48:39 he does occasionally post longer pieces - but not often enough that he's anything like a full-time blogger/writer... except he appears to make a living from in-stream ads on his blog Jul 24 03:48:41 wish I could :) Jul 24 03:49:43 people like short and sweet (twitter) Jul 24 03:50:50 the thing that resonated most with me was the anti-gruber comment "This character must be pissed off for reasons, he must elucidate them consistently, and must be relentless in the coverage of his ire." Jul 24 03:51:04 (also, incidentally, I find it really hard to read HN on the web - far better with the comments reformatted by an app) Jul 24 03:51:07 "A churlish character who, rather than celebrating the excellent, laments the shabby." Jul 24 03:51:20 A real ronyon. Jul 24 03:51:37 What blog are you referencing? Jul 24 03:51:51 lasserix 1st comment from my link ^^^ Jul 24 03:51:57 lasserix: daring fireball - john gruber Jul 24 03:52:08 g00s: lasserix wasn't here for your link... Jul 24 03:52:09 g00s: i just joined Jul 24 03:52:20 thanks Jul 24 03:52:27 lasserix https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6094141 Jul 24 03:52:50 i read phandroid / androidpolice, there are a number of people reviewing this or that (& the verge) Jul 24 03:53:06 I actually like android central Jul 24 03:53:14 but i think when gruber criticizes apple, they do listen. of course he's pretty gentle Jul 24 03:53:58 but there is no one person that has the stature (that i can think of) like gruber, that says, "hey google, this is fucked!" Jul 24 03:54:14 i mean, i say that all the time but nobody gives a crap :) Jul 24 03:55:04 maybe they listen to the crowd more? Jul 24 03:55:22 huh my display probs have fk all to do with device performance, or android version :( Jul 24 03:55:35 runs smooth on a 2.3 i9000 :( Jul 24 04:02:53 one thing that comes to mind, that the article referenced in the HN mentions - is that gruber is a reflection of apple's philosophy (which is , after money, pretty easy to grock) Jul 24 04:03:18 but after all the i/o keynotes, i still don't know /where/ google is going with android Jul 24 04:03:40 i wouldn't be surprised at any time if they give it to the oha, merge it with chrome, etc Jul 24 04:04:10 thats probably why there can't be a android/gruber Jul 24 04:04:34 heh grock just reading stranger now :) Jul 24 04:07:22 when rubin got on stage, it was pretty clear to me that #activations was their main metric Jul 24 04:08:33 g00s: FYI, looks like the nokia 1020 review embargo just lifted Jul 24 04:10:03 my take is... obviously Android engineering, design, etc. want to make the best mobile computing system they can, according to their own definition of 'best' Jul 24 04:11:28 but the bigger Google picture is/was firstly to stop anyone *else* taking a dominant position in mobile, and to promote a system which uses Google services - mostly in a non-locked-in way, because mostly Google doesn't/didn't do lock-in Jul 24 04:12:03 Leeds only thing i've heard about the 1020 is that it may have a good camera (crazy #mp) Jul 24 04:15:00 yeah, I think it's pretty much the same platform as all the other Lumias, but with an 808-style camera bolted on Jul 24 04:16:38 i was more bullish about WP last year; still kinda surprised it isn't doing so well. tech looks good, is it just management screw ups? what i'm most interested in now is the ubuntu edge. Jul 24 04:17:26 heh, you funny man Jul 24 04:17:53 will you buy a mount so you can use it while riding your unicorn? Jul 24 04:19:41 seriously, unless someone is going to come in at the last moment and top up the campaign, covering the missing $20million from their goal, there's no chance of it happening Jul 24 04:19:53 g00s i think a lot of people didn't buy microsoft windows because they had much of a choice, and wouldn't if they had a better alternative. i wonder if this set a precedent for people to avoid buying a surface, Jul 24 04:21:11 i'd like to hear the ubuntu phone anti-fragment story though; if its the same as android i'm will have lost interest a bit, but in its purest form (stock / c++ / qml) i would love it - i think Jul 24 04:21:30 ubuntu hardly works on desktop Jul 24 04:21:43 or another way is that if you can afford and want an ios device, you get it. if you can't afford it or don't want an ios, you have a plethera of android devices. so why get a ms device espicially if you've been using windows all along and it hasn't been anything but a functionally nuetral exp for you Jul 24 04:22:27 g00s: there's no anti-fragment story worth telling, because there's no ecosystem Jul 24 04:25:27 of course; but shuttleworth has noted what happened here (to android) and doesn't want that to happen; we'll see if he can see that vision through though Jul 24 04:25:44 ubuntu touch is their third attempt to move past PC/server software into a more hardware-centric sell-through-OEM model, and the previous two appear to have failed completely Jul 24 04:25:53 think Android@Home levels of failure :) Jul 24 04:26:05 in the end, there has to be real incentive - if you put something open in the hand of a US carrier it will turn to shit Jul 24 04:26:34 Ubuntu TV and Ubuntu for Android both sank without a trace Jul 24 04:27:15 AFAIK not a single product has shipped using those platforms... Jul 24 04:28:15 and to me, you don't go asking the community for $32million for a phone with unfinished specifications unless you can't get any support from carriers or vendors for a more traditional launch Jul 24 04:29:41 but they have "centuries of hardware expierience" Jul 24 04:31:13 making and shipping hardware is *really* hard, compared with software Jul 24 04:31:51 Leeds i share your skepticism Jul 24 04:32:11 i do want to see it succeed though; i know if it did i would gladly try it Jul 24 04:32:45 have you put your money down or not? Jul 24 04:32:47 Ubuntu has trouble shipping good software, never mind hardware Jul 24 04:33:03 Leeds i dont have money to put down, so no Jul 24 04:33:39 g00s: you mean you don't have $830 (or $600, if you got in on day 1) lying around to lend to Canonical for a year? Jul 24 04:33:52 no Jul 24 04:34:04 how can i manually gradle something or view the console from within android studio using the wrapper? I'm getting an error that says to see the console but I can't see any additioanal info Jul 24 04:34:09 and that's why it's absolutely going to fail Jul 24 04:34:10 Something about Manifest merge failed. Jul 24 04:34:30 openmoko anyone? :p Jul 24 04:34:53 i think it will likely fail for lots of reasons; if its more open than android (which it seems to be, ideally a good thing) than its more likely to be abused by carriers Jul 24 04:35:43 it will fail a long time before that Jul 24 04:36:08 the Edge crowdsouring campaign will fail to raise $32,000,000.00 Jul 24 04:36:13 but, in the us - the carriers are a mjor force in what succeeds Jul 24 04:36:28 if samsung makes 90% of the android phones, they want a position against sammy Jul 24 04:36:36 doesn't matter Jul 24 04:36:41 if that other oem makes - gasp - a ubuntu phone, i bet it has a chance Jul 24 04:36:47 it will never exist as a product Jul 24 04:37:12 the Edge will *certainly* never exist - I'd be willing to put money on their crowdsourcing failing Jul 24 04:37:17 MS probably came to the table with too many apple-like demands - problem is, apples was there first, they said "f off", carriers were like "OK", and ms isn't in that position Jul 24 04:39:06 i'll start to be more worried if intel starts to back it Jul 24 04:39:09 :) Jul 24 04:39:23 so no then? Jul 24 04:39:45 damccull: sorry, I've never touched gradle Jul 24 04:39:49 k Jul 24 04:39:49 or AS... Jul 24 04:40:23 damccull did you try gradle from the command line :P Jul 24 04:40:29 with verbose Jul 24 04:40:41 g00s: that's my question. How? I have a wrapper. Jul 24 04:40:59 * g00s scratches head Jul 24 04:41:13 i just say "$gradle" Jul 24 04:41:22 i have no gradle other than this folder in my project says gradle wrapper Jul 24 04:41:23 don't need no stinkin wrapper Jul 24 04:41:31 heh, I'm still learning how this whole doohickey wors Jul 24 04:41:33 works Jul 24 04:44:35 g00s: do you suggest i install gradle itself instead of using this wrapper? Jul 24 04:44:54 i dont know how the wrapper works Jul 24 04:45:01 i just downloaded gradle myself Jul 24 04:45:04 me either. lol. Jul 24 04:45:06 ok i'll do that Jul 24 04:45:07 its just a zip file Jul 24 04:45:17 i would imagine you have it already :| Jul 24 04:45:29 is it burried somewhere in AS ? Jul 24 04:47:00 dunno. When you set up the 'wrapper', it creates a gradle folder with a gradle-wrapper.jar in the project. Also creates a .gradle folder in my home folder. In there is a 1.6 folder containing taskArtifacts foldr and that has a few .bin files. That's all I can find Jul 24 04:48:17 i like using the command line before letting the ide do all the crazyness Jul 24 04:56:43 guys, I have a game released, and a friend is reporting me that the game is getting slower after a few days of play... I couldn't find a reasonable explanation, so I asked him to clear the "cache" of the app that was with 8mb (created by the ads providers I suppose), and the game got fast again... was it a coincidence? Jul 24 04:56:58 or should I write some code to clear the cache every couple days? Jul 24 04:57:04 or... Jul 24 04:58:30 or… what ? Jul 24 04:58:37 you tell me :) Jul 24 04:58:43 the suspense is killing me Jul 24 04:58:47 Could you artificially inflate the cache and test yourself rottz? Jul 24 04:58:49 or something else Jul 24 04:58:49 you can just stop on "or.." Jul 24 04:58:54 ?? Jul 24 04:58:58 can't* Jul 24 04:59:01 lol Jul 24 04:59:16 well, yeah, I could try that Sonicadvance1 :) Jul 24 04:59:53 the reason I asked was because it might be a common thing, like "how could you release a game that doesn't clear up the cache every couple days? everybody does that!" Jul 24 05:00:28 I dont see an explanation for the cache slowing down the game also... this is all very weird :/ Jul 24 05:00:43 if it was a crash it would be easy to find/debug, but "slowness" is a pain Jul 24 05:17:30 rottz what type of time step are you using for the engine? Jul 24 05:23:35 g00s you might enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bM3Gut1hIk **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 24 05:27:41 2013 Jul 24 05:39:52 lasserix fixed step, 60fps / 16ms Jul 24 05:40:24 its not slowing down on the same session.. it gets slower every day Jul 24 05:40:29 after a week playing it gets unplayable Jul 24 05:40:57 since I have an SQLite DB I thought it was something with it (growing too big) Jul 24 05:41:10 ahh that might make sense Jul 24 05:41:12 lasserix thx Jul 24 05:41:16 make sure to index your tables Jul 24 05:41:18 but clearing the cache solved (?) it... so I have no idea what was the problem Jul 24 05:41:48 yeah I have to optimize it, Im leaving orphan data there also Jul 24 05:41:49 what do you mean? big sqlite = longer query times Jul 24 05:41:53 after a matches finishes I dont clear it up Jul 24 05:42:18 "a match" Jul 24 05:42:29 since you are using fixed step, the timing shouldn't be doing it on the update, but if you are querying constantly that could be why... Jul 24 05:42:55 it slows down A LOT.. like freezes for 2s... 5s... 30s Jul 24 05:43:07 after clearing up the cache it was lightning fast again Jul 24 05:43:21 oh Jul 24 05:43:25 very weird Jul 24 05:43:29 are you for some reason creating a lot of garbage? Jul 24 05:43:45 that could be a gc problem Jul 24 05:44:16 if your cache is not properly recycling objects... Jul 24 05:44:17 but its not a session-slowness... if he closes the game and reopens it is still slow Jul 24 05:44:43 yeah because the cache is still large and somehow creating garbage? Jul 24 05:44:44 what is this cache? I dont use the cache, I suppose it is from AdMob Jul 24 05:44:50 ohh Jul 24 05:45:04 hmm idk about admob Jul 24 05:45:30 look at DDMS in allocations, i think you can mark where to trace in code, and see if it is creating lots of garbage? Jul 24 05:45:36 *as the cache grows Jul 24 05:46:08 what is this cache? is it for the allocations? or some temporary folder for random files? Jul 24 05:46:42 well I put a code to clear up the cache every time the app starts, so hopefully the problem goes away :) Jul 24 05:46:54 not that I understood why it was happening... lol Jul 24 05:47:45 cache is usually to speed up access by caching the files, dunno what abmob is caching for, maybe images or something? Jul 24 05:48:14 the problem i could see is that if the cache is continually allocating new objects, as opposed to recycling them in a pool or whatever, it'll make the gc fire Jul 24 05:48:28 espicially if a big cache creates lots of gc targets Jul 24 05:48:33 each time it is being accessed Jul 24 05:49:59 prolly images.. actually I have a couple other smaller banner providers that might be the culprit Jul 24 05:50:15 I had performance problems with one of them while integrating Jul 24 05:50:31 I removed them now and put this cache-cleaning code Jul 24 05:50:37 hopefully it will be faster now Jul 24 05:51:41 use abitmap pool to decode Jul 24 06:11:31 Hey, when creating a DialogFragment, in onCreateDialog which creates and returns a Dialog object, in some cases I'd like to abort the dialog, is there a good way to do it? Jul 24 06:11:37 returning null will crush the app Jul 24 06:12:40 in some cases, just dont create it ? Jul 24 06:12:49 or use a callback to dismiss it? Jul 24 06:16:34 I'm currently working with the following code: http://paste.strictfp.com/38710 and I was wondering why the protected variable run-time values aren't accessible from MySensorListener Jul 24 06:19:29 lasserix: which callback? on the activity or the dialog? Jul 24 06:19:38 because you're doing it wrong and not adhering to the life cycle Jul 24 06:21:23 pfn: Talking to me? Jul 24 06:22:08 yes Jul 24 06:22:39 I am trying to get a simple bluetooth server working on android. I have the following code: http://codepad.org/vvOxjqdm -- this is a thread class which is fired when i start a server (by pressing a button). It listens on a bluetooth socket with a specific UUID. Calls accept(), waiting on connection, and then immediately sends a timestamp, closing the connection. When I use a test client (in linux/python) I connect to socket whcih works. However when Jul 24 06:23:02 How does it not ad-hear to the life cycle? Jul 24 06:23:15 I think the receive on the socket is not synchronized with when the data is sent. Jul 24 06:24:03 steven10172, clearly, what is going to call on create if you use it like that Jul 24 06:28:06 Still doesn't explain why that SubClass can't access the values of its parents class at deceleration Jul 24 06:28:31 of course it can Jul 24 06:29:01 but the way you do it, it will always be null Jul 24 06:29:22 How can I change it? Jul 24 06:30:08 by just making your main activity implement the interface and pass this instead Jul 24 06:39:27 pfn: an example please? Jul 24 06:52:44 jellybee: activity tells dialog to dismiss on abort Jul 24 06:53:09 listener goes wherever abort flag is raised Jul 24 06:59:50 Hey, quick question ive been searching for hours to figure out, is there a path similar to file:///android_asset to access /data/data/com.mypackage ? Jul 24 07:00:06 for use in webview Jul 24 07:01:37 thats odd Jul 24 07:01:39 :) Jul 24 07:03:27 Im trying to make a tiny phonegap app that downloads all the assets it needs after first run then gives the user options to download other assets that are not required to be downloaded at the time of first run. I cant store them on external storage as the company doesnt want the assets to be that protable Jul 24 07:03:54 this is for app dev, not web stuff, try #phonegap Jul 24 07:04:30 this is more of an android question then phonegap Jul 24 07:04:40 not really Jul 24 07:04:46 webview ? ew Jul 24 07:04:48 :) Jul 24 07:05:19 dblosevn: well, you can try to store it in /data/your-app Jul 24 07:05:26 out of interest have you ever found a "user" acceptable phonegap made web app on android ? Jul 24 07:05:27 thats what im asking Jul 24 07:05:47 thats close to normal app quality Jul 24 07:05:49 i want to store the stuff in /data/data/com.myapp.myapp/ Jul 24 07:06:13 but i cant figure out how to reference that from webview Jul 24 07:06:15 StingRay_: It depends on what you do in the app... If it's mostly static, you can get it... If you are doing "animated" or heavy duty stuff, you won't.... Jul 24 07:06:27 ill write native code to store the files there Jul 24 07:06:39 gavilan2: any example really Jul 24 07:07:00 just something that is close to normal apps Jul 24 07:07:08 On that matter, has anyone seen anything decent out of Sencha Touch, or does it have similar weak points to Phonegap/Cordova? Jul 24 07:07:09 StingRay_: Check Fastbook from Senecha.... Jul 24 07:07:09 I know bbc did one for olympics Jul 24 07:07:19 but that is now disabled Jul 24 07:07:47 I think I can replicate about 95% of a native app they have on itunes, I really wanted to do the whole app native but they required phonegap for the android version and were going to phase out the native ios app we built for them Jul 24 07:08:25 sencha touch is just a web framework Jul 24 07:08:42 like jquery mobile Jul 24 07:08:55 dblosevn: to do bussines apps or things as a web app.... Jul 24 07:09:26 its a business app but not very complicated the only thing im ging to loose really is the killer background video animation that the ios app has Jul 24 07:09:31 gavilan2: not a good comparison Jul 24 07:10:05 facebook native is doing boat loads more in the background … like tracking and watching you!!!! Jul 24 07:10:06 :) Jul 24 07:10:50 The code review team with the company put the phonegap restriction on me as its easier to maintain and it is portable/multiplatform Jul 24 07:12:42 I just want to see something other than a mobile website example Jul 24 07:12:47 dblosevn: What app are you creating_ Jul 24 07:12:48 ? Jul 24 07:12:51 is there any open source client for facebook btw? Jul 24 07:12:52 and have yet to find one Jul 24 07:12:58 is this channel logged? Jul 24 07:14:02 never mind, http://test.chosd.com/178 Jul 24 07:14:13 Thats the hardware kiosk version of it Jul 24 07:14:16 link in the post Jul 24 07:14:52 Theres a native ios replica, and now Im working on droid and windows 8 Jul 24 07:15:33 also an update to the web/hardware kiosk version of it that is responsive and doesnt require 1920x1080 res Jul 24 07:16:21 the web version was orginally only to be used on preloaded kiosks that we shipped them so thats the only reason it only works in chrome and requires such high res Jul 24 07:21:32 huh Jul 24 07:21:40 why just paving sh*t Jul 24 07:21:47 where are my tele lifters Jul 24 07:22:19 cat do some big big direct drive telescopics Jul 24 07:23:55 Ya our contract is with the paving group Jul 24 07:24:10 StingRay_: ok too bad Jul 24 07:24:28 StingRay_: I guess it needs somebody with time to reverse engineer things :/ Jul 24 07:27:19 well I will try file:///data/data/com.packagename.package/file.name but it seems like there would be a uri reference to that directory Jul 24 07:28:15 if that even works Jul 24 08:08:45 Anyone else getting error 500 when trying to access play store dev console? Jul 24 08:10:11 negative Jul 24 08:10:16 all fine here (UK) Jul 24 08:12:13 Here too (Norway). Jul 24 08:21:58 Chainfire: you here ? Jul 24 08:22:20 yeah Jul 24 08:22:43 was it you who were playing with a universal way to get offset of the UI status bar ? Jul 24 08:22:59 well dimension Jul 24 08:23:05 not sure why I said offset Jul 24 08:23:12 I remember talking about it some time ago but not sure Jul 24 08:23:15 height actually Jul 24 08:23:19 :) Jul 24 08:23:40 did you manage to get a reliable way ? Jul 24 08:24:04 I don't remember Jul 24 08:24:27 I think I ended up just using 54dp or whatever Jul 24 08:24:42 I don't even remember what I needed it for, haha Jul 24 08:42:08 hello, is there any way I can run a command with root permissions without having to "adb shell su" first? I mean, something similar to ubuntu "sudo, adb shell sudo "? Jul 24 08:42:29 adb shell su -c "" Jul 24 08:42:39 Chainfire, great!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jul 24 08:42:48 Chainfire, lemme try that Jul 24 08:46:05 heya guys - quick question Jul 24 08:46:44 Hi! I see the MediaPlayer class can use a content URI as data source. But can it be used to provide binary data to it with a OutputStream? Jul 24 08:47:04 The default Holo EditText style looks bad on a light background color. Namely, the "underline" background is too bright. Rather than creating my custom background for it, I was hoping that there is a "dark style" built-in background asset Jul 24 08:47:05 Is there? Jul 24 08:47:59 Tee_Pee, I'm pretty sure there's a holo dark theme. Jul 24 08:48:07 Tee_Pee, http://developer.android.com/design/style/themes.html Jul 24 08:48:43 That should include a default background for the theme.. Jul 24 08:49:47 am aware, was just wondering if I could add that style specifically to only one text field. Jul 24 08:50:22 You should be able to reference the color 'background_holo_dark' as the EditText background color Jul 24 08:50:29 Is that what you mean? Jul 24 08:50:47 well you would not want just the color Jul 24 08:51:11 there are about 5 states that go with it :) so you want the stateList I would think Jul 24 08:53:26 luc4> Hi! I see the MediaPlayer class can use a content URI as data source. But can it be used to provide binary data to it with a OutputStream? --- Look into AudioTrack if you want to play raw PCM data Jul 24 08:53:39 hmpf, this'll be tricky Jul 24 08:53:49 Kegsay: not PCM data. Jul 24 08:54:00 luc4, no, it can't read data from arbitrary streams of file handles Jul 24 08:54:21 which is dumb, especially it's just a stagefright interface problem Jul 24 08:54:27 you can set file descriptors on MediaPlayer but not a stream itself I believe Jul 24 08:54:29 Tee_Pee: found it Jul 24 08:54:39 edit_text_holo_dark :) Jul 24 08:54:41 simples Jul 24 08:54:54 luc4, the usual trick is to do a loopback http socket, but that has some of its own problems Jul 24 08:55:04 No, file descriptors are not ok I guess. I need to provide dynamically generated data. Jul 24 08:55:06 yeah, I found it too, thanks, but this means that it'll sport this background even on non-holo devices :( Jul 24 08:55:22 Yes, I know that trick, I was trying to avoid that. Jul 24 08:55:45 Tee_Pee: ah, see your point, well unless you add to an extended holo style ? Jul 24 08:55:49 luc4, well unless you wanna do your own decoder and video rendererer, that's it Jul 24 08:56:01 Tee_Pee: this is why I dont use styles :) Jul 24 08:56:05 yeah, I don't think there's any other way luc4 :( Jul 24 08:56:07 * StingRay_ has no style Jul 24 08:56:43 Mavrik: I see it is possible to provide a ParceFileDescriptor, where with a pipe I can provide data. But that pipe is like a regular unix named pipe? Jul 24 08:56:44 StingRay_ - the project specifications of this app are very... colorful. Each category has its own colors for the actionbar, nav buttons, selection overlays etc. Jul 24 08:56:52 I not only have styles, I have stupidly convoluted styles Jul 24 08:56:55 :( Jul 24 08:57:06 I do that too Jul 24 08:57:14 I am overhauling it though to set it all programatically Jul 24 08:57:17 via hex codes Jul 24 08:57:28 I just dont use styles Jul 24 08:57:46 luc4, that won't work Jul 24 08:57:55 cause it is not seekable? Jul 24 08:58:11 no, because stagefrigt runs an fstat on the filedescriptor and that pipe will return 0 as size Jul 24 08:58:17 causing the player to die Jul 24 08:58:40 if you find a third way… do tell me ;) Jul 24 08:58:52 I've wasted enough of my life on that :P Jul 24 08:59:10 Tee_Pee, have you thougjt about using the HoloEverywhere library? https://github.com/Prototik/HoloEverywhere Jul 24 08:59:28 Mavrik: unfortunately, the fd must be seekable, which means that, without creating a custom device with a kernel driver I fail with any idea I had :-) Jul 24 08:59:42 That would bring the applications style in line across all devices. Jul 24 08:59:59 Seidr - project specifications also list "native look of common elements such as text fields" Jul 24 09:00:06 Mavrik: did you try using a local http server already? Jul 24 09:00:13 Ah ok Jul 24 09:00:14 which is really really stupid considering that no other android design principles are used. Jul 24 09:00:17 luc4, yp. Jul 24 09:00:23 like the action bar, or home icon navigation Jul 24 09:00:31 Mavrik: does it work correctly? Jul 24 09:00:43 it works. Jul 24 09:00:57 on some devices the MediaPlayer randomly takes up to 5 seconds to prepare Jul 24 09:01:00 but otherwise it works. Jul 24 09:01:32 Mavrik: I'll do it like that then, thanks. Could you also tell me what http server you used? Jul 24 09:02:16 Mavrik: I don't want to end up with issues related to the http server as well :-) Jul 24 09:07:22 luc4, wrote my own. Jul 24 09:07:39 Mavrik: I see. Thanks for the information! Jul 24 09:10:57 Chainfire, thank you very much mate! Jul 24 09:20:18 hey folks, do you have experience with putting root-only apps on the play store? are there many people downloading and then complaining? Jul 24 09:48:14 hi all, please remind me how to load reasourses. I nead to get a LinearInterpolator. Im trying to do something like that: LinearInterpolator interpolator = getResources(android.R.anim.linear_interpolator) Jul 24 09:49:15 dont think you load an interpolator Jul 24 09:49:31 you can load an anim that uses an interpolator Jul 24 09:52:40 well ok, so how do I do that? I mean getResourses() is not the one who I need Jul 24 09:53:10 what do you want to do ? Jul 24 09:55:03 cause any anim by defualt will/should use simple linear interpolation Jul 24 09:56:25 I want to create an Interpolator in code and then set it via animation.setInterpolator(interpolator); Jul 24 09:57:05 by default you dont need one then Jul 24 09:57:15 unless you wanted something OTHER than linear Jul 24 09:57:42 example being a DecelerateInterpolator Jul 24 10:01:13 do DIP scale per resolution? Jul 24 10:02:26 yes ? Jul 24 10:02:37 if you read the docs it tells you Jul 24 10:04:10 cool :) Jul 24 10:04:23 i thought they do, just wanted to have a quick check Jul 24 10:27:04 what is the best way to add the admob.jar to my /libs folder? Jul 24 10:27:07 android studio Jul 24 10:27:34 drag&drop it there, rightclick - "add as library" Jul 24 10:27:48 and configure in build.gradle to compile it Jul 24 10:28:01 compile files('admob.jar') Jul 24 10:28:37 has anyone ever experienced not receiving messages over GCM? Jul 24 10:28:44 like - it completely stops receiving them Jul 24 10:30:10 zhulikas, you probably received new registrationId and didn't handle that. Jul 24 10:30:16 especially after app upgrade. Jul 24 10:30:35 okay Jul 24 10:30:41 I do handle it Jul 24 10:30:42 I can't find the admob.jar Jul 24 10:30:59 after a while it does start working again Jul 24 10:31:01 where is it intended to be. Turns out nothing is in /sdk/extra/google/admob Jul 24 10:31:14 (mac os x) and yet the package manager shows it as installed Jul 24 10:31:24 I think it may be phone losing connection to google server Jul 24 10:32:54 okay, reinstalled it :) Jul 24 10:44:34 in android studio, is it possible to show the docs inline? Jul 24 10:44:49 e.g. i hover over "String" and it shows me its docs Jul 24 10:44:54 spobat, Ctrl+J Jul 24 10:45:24 Which i assume stands for jocumentation. Jul 24 10:45:45 JuiceSSH: that works great! :) Jul 24 10:52:24 JuiceSSH, Javadoc? Jul 24 11:13:20 how can I get a time string with seconds formatted according to the locale? DateFormat.getTimeFormat() is only HH:MM Jul 24 11:15:20 Date date = parseString(datestr); Jul 24 11:15:23 String str = android.text.format.DateFormat.getDateFormat(ctx).format(date); Jul 24 11:15:51 If you have a Date instance already, just feed it to the second line with a proper context. Jul 24 11:16:09 (parseString is my own custom method..) Jul 24 11:16:24 ah, java.text.DateFormat.getTimeInstance(DateFormat.MEDIUM) does the trick Jul 24 11:16:48 kjeldahl: thanks though :) Jul 24 11:16:54 How does that method know what locale your phone uses?? Jul 24 11:17:24 Maybe it works for YOUR locale, but that's a flawed assumption. Jul 24 11:18:58 kjeldahl: I need to display the current time to the user, and the time should show seconds. I am pretty sure if my locale has a seconds display for MEDIUM, the other ones can be assumed to do it as well Jul 24 11:19:10 kjeldahl: of course I could just define a format string and ignore the user locale.... Jul 24 11:21:22 If you're only looking or seconds, the locale doesn't come into play anyway, and there are simpler ways of getting to it. But I (probably wrongly) assumed you wanted to show a time and date in the user's locale. If you've solved your problem alredy, good for you! Jul 24 11:21:30 looing *for seconds.. Jul 24 11:21:38 *looking *for seconds.. Jul 24 11:29:08 anyone know why I dont have a standard "drawable" folder in my android studio project? I created it but its unable to reference anything in there Jul 24 11:30:35 or it seems it fails to preview Jul 24 11:33:24 Hi Jul 24 11:35:07 In open gl es shaders there's a variable called vPosition. I have looked in the official docs and googled a lot but I can't find out much about it. I am guessing that it is a variable that is shared from the code that generates the edges. has anyone got any decent info on it please? (tnx) Jul 24 11:48:27 Anthy the sl has its own built in variables, Jul 24 11:48:55 I am guessing vPosition is not one of them, but is a variable you have to provide a value for via the glAttributePointer call Jul 24 11:48:57 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8551935/opengl-es-2-0-specifiying-position-attribute-vec3-or-vec4 Jul 24 11:49:55 without seeing your code I am assuming vPosition, in the shaders, represents a vertex in your vertex buffer (untransformed by view, projection and model matrices) Jul 24 11:50:38 tnx for your reply. I really don't understand this I think I need to tinker a little Jul 24 11:51:32 hmm this website is down but is good for you http://www.learnopengles.com/android-lesson-one-getting-started/ when up Jul 24 11:51:53 this is also very good http://www.arcsynthesis.org/ Jul 24 11:52:02 but it is not gl es just gl Jul 24 11:52:35 Does anybody know if there is any information on exactly HOW the Gradle plugin for Android supports "Full incremental builds"? Jul 24 11:52:41 so some of the functions are changed, also it uses glut or something (designed for c++) but you can probably figure out how to parse it (ie it has a onwindowresized callback and android has on windowchanged callbeck) Jul 24 11:52:58 I have a geometry engine running just I am onto the shaders that's the bit where I am having problems. I can render triangles etc just I need to know what and where these weird variables they keep using without description keep popping up Jul 24 11:54:50 when its back up http://www.learnopengles.com/android-lesson-one-getting-started/ will explain all that to you Jul 24 11:54:57 lasserix: you are right in your assumption vPosition. I pass this through a proj matrix and it's fine. Jul 24 11:55:04 Yep those pages are down at mo Jul 24 11:55:23 usually you want to pass it through proj * view * model Jul 24 11:55:27 in the vertex Jul 24 11:55:30 shader Jul 24 11:55:55 if you don't you can pretend you did but view and model where identity Jul 24 11:56:00 *were Jul 24 11:56:45