**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 28 02:59:58 2013 Jul 28 04:34:40 have anyone here used android studio? Jul 28 04:36:00 i got it running, but i'm a newbie Jul 28 04:38:26 im having a problem. that when I try to run my project on it I got the error: cannot obtain path javac classes for JDK Android 4.2.2 platform. Update JDK configuration Jul 28 04:38:45 I'd like to know where can I update these JDK configurations, on android studio. Jul 28 04:57:17 java7 improves absolutely nothing over java6 Jul 28 04:57:34 at least for anything that'd be useful for android Jul 28 05:00:30 hmm, I think I'm a couple hours late Jul 28 05:17:53 how do i debug an android app using eclipse? Jul 28 05:18:08 i mean set break points, not just use logcat Jul 28 05:19:09 pfn java7 has nio.2 and new concurrency stuff Jul 28 05:19:27 i think teh concurrency stuff could probably be backported Jul 28 05:19:53 is it possible to debug android apps with breakpoints? Jul 28 05:22:03 sure Jul 28 05:22:43 when i go to debug as, there is nothing there to choose Jul 28 05:23:17 ok,nvm, right clicking the project gave me some options Jul 28 05:23:25 in package explorer Jul 28 05:57:50 hey guys, how can I rename a file? is there a way to do it with something like FileOutputStream Jul 28 06:03:59 you could Jul 28 06:04:21 just copy from 1 stream to another Jul 28 06:04:28 how so? Jul 28 06:05:12 with a loop Jul 28 06:05:19 and read/write Jul 28 06:08:45 probably an easier way though, not sure Jul 28 06:09:03 rather than taking 10 lines would take 5 :) Jul 28 07:30:02 Hey everyone. Sorry if this is a noob question. I've just installed the latest ADT and would like to know if the NDK is included in this? According to the plugin menu it is, but I can only find 2 jar files with the word ndk in them. Jul 28 07:30:44 nop, download separately Jul 28 07:31:21 Mavrik: Thanks. I guess the plugin is a separate thing. Jul 28 07:34:37 hey guys Jul 28 07:34:47 when calling startActivity from a fragment Jul 28 07:34:56 the Activity end up calling onDestroy and lost all it's state Jul 28 07:34:58 how do I save it? Jul 28 08:17:07 meetoman: you mean when you start another activity, the previous looses the state ? Jul 28 08:17:17 if so then onSaveInstanceState() Jul 28 08:19:01 Hello to the android-dev community. In the past month I've readen some development books that I could get my hands on but they all were out-dated and was not able to get much out of them. I'm sorry for asking for help but I kind of need it, Can anybody help me in pageviewer-related problem? please Jul 28 08:20:39 antta55: depends, have you read the docs, and can you ask and outline a specific problem you are having ? Jul 28 08:20:42 :) Jul 28 08:22:27 yep, I've readen the docs and watched some tutorials on youtube, some on google, but all of them seem to be differently in some way. The thing that I don't get is how to 'stick the fragments together' . Everytime I try the app, the only fragment that shows up is the dummy one Jul 28 08:23:07 "stick" the fragments together ? Jul 28 08:24:06 uhmm, I mean, when I press to the next layout, the only layout that shows is the dummy one. is repeating himself 3 times and the other layouts are not showing at all Jul 28 08:24:30 antta55: have you gone through the tutorials, all the training on d.android.com ? Jul 28 08:24:41 have you worked with the basics of adapters ? Jul 28 08:24:53 yes, this one, right? http://developer.android.com/training/animation/screen-slide.html Jul 28 08:25:13 no Jul 28 08:25:15 http://developer.android.com/training/basics/firstapp/index.html Jul 28 08:25:20 starting there Jul 28 08:25:32 ohh Jul 28 08:25:40 from the begining Jul 28 08:26:05 obviously if you jump 3/4 to the end your gonna have issues with lack of understanding Jul 28 08:26:09 okay, I'll try once again and if so connect you guys few days later if needed. Thanks a lot for being helpful Jul 28 08:26:12 I see Jul 28 08:26:38 you need to do basics > listView + adapter > fragments > viewPagers etc Jul 28 08:26:49 then you will be able to ask specific questions etc Jul 28 08:27:00 with correct terms and understanding of the problem Jul 28 08:27:28 I got it :-? thanks a lot really. Was kind of hard to get any kind of help. I appreciate your time and kindness Jul 28 08:27:42 I will do as you said Jul 28 08:27:48 not a problem, good luck :) Jul 28 08:27:54 thank you Jul 28 09:17:26 do you know if there is any way to pass a startup command line to an Android NDK application? Jul 28 10:03:17 android studio is good for develop an app ? Jul 28 10:04:08 it's complicated ? Jul 28 10:05:12 hello lukecarrier Jul 28 10:06:48 cortexA9 it's just an ide Jul 28 10:19:01 hello again Jul 28 10:19:53 hi. how can i change the width of the progress bar itself? i don't want the width size of the widget in the layout using android:layout_width . Jul 28 10:20:14 cos it appears so thin on my phone Jul 28 10:20:36 "layout" width is for layoutParams Jul 28 10:21:24 so set layoutParams with the width you want, or get/set directly layoutParams.WIDTH I think Jul 28 10:21:51 superlinux-hp, you would need to set the parameters of the layout to whatever fixed dimensions you would prefer. Jul 28 10:22:08 or what StingRay_ said. Jul 28 10:22:56 ok.. let me try other options Jul 28 10:23:45 StingRay_, assume Im trying to create an android chat application for just 2 people. Should I use a TextView object or a ListView object to display chathistory that gets polled from a remote MySQL database, say every 4 seconds? Jul 28 10:24:11 the two are not exclusive Jul 28 10:24:23 as in? Jul 28 10:24:30 but common sense says, a listView with items that have textViews :) Jul 28 10:24:41 :D Jul 28 10:24:46 brilliant idea Jul 28 10:25:50 standard thing more than brilliant Jul 28 10:25:52 :) Jul 28 10:26:03 :) Jul 28 10:27:26 do all the commands like managing projects and adb stuff work with windows? im considering moving from linux to windows and want to make sure all the scripts and stuff i use will still work.... well i guess ill have to convert the bash to powerpoint? but the android commands will still be ok? Jul 28 10:28:10 occ, bash to powerpoint? Jul 28 10:28:17 and now I have a great image of someone trying to use powerpoint as an IDE - thanks! :) Jul 28 10:28:20 occ, what scripts are you trying to move? Jul 28 10:28:22 I really wouldn't recommend converting bash to powerpoint. Jul 28 10:28:28 Leeds, lol Jul 28 10:28:33 powershell, I assume... Jul 28 10:28:35 adb commands do work, yes :D Jul 28 10:28:37 Mavrik, +1 Jul 28 10:28:37 yes powershell Jul 28 10:28:38 sorry Jul 28 10:28:45 Epic fail. Jul 28 10:28:54 * ughlol takes a screenshot to archive, for the lulz Jul 28 10:29:07 lol. but my question still stands, regarding powershell Jul 28 10:29:26 occ, if you need bash scripts to work on Windows, I'd always prefer Cygwin over Powershell Jul 28 10:29:55 i see Jul 28 10:30:31 occ, Cygwin is really powerful and is a pure Unix environment on Windows. Try it out, Im sure you'll love it. Since you're moving from Linux to Windows, you'll find Cygwin very familiar. A lot like a Terminal. Jul 28 10:32:27 thanks ill check it out Jul 28 10:32:47 StingRay_, Mavrik, Im feeling lazy. Dont want to use php scripts that return json objects containing the results of mysql queries. Could you guys suggest something easier? Dont say XMPP though. I only have access to a server that has MySQL and supports PHP. Jul 28 10:32:53 occ, np. :) Jul 28 10:34:04 what's easier than returning data from ORM with a JSNO framework? Jul 28 10:34:52 Mavrik, hold your horses cowboy, im an android n00b Jul 28 10:34:57 * ughlol googles ORM and JSNO Jul 28 10:35:08 you meant JSON? or is there something called JSNO? Jul 28 10:35:51 I'm pretty sure the answer to both is yes Jul 28 10:36:00 but JSNO may have nothing to do with CS Jul 28 10:36:02 :) Jul 28 10:36:46 :O I have to learn a lot. Jul 28 10:37:11 as do we all Jul 28 10:37:41 if you ever stop, or know too much, it's all boring Jul 28 10:39:01 haha, thats true Jul 28 10:57:49 Anyone else using the Corrected Gyroscope virtual sensor? What have they done to it in 4.3? Seems it needs some time to align itself after you start listening for events Jul 28 11:19:15 Anyone know which part of the android source code handles user restrictions? Jul 28 11:19:34 Trying to work out why a socket connection doesn't work as a restricted user Jul 28 11:21:39 hello Jul 28 11:21:46 any android ndk devs here? Jul 28 11:22:00 AlCapwn, you need to request permission to use that feature. And that permission must be taken by adding it into your AndroidManifest.xml file. Jul 28 11:22:07 i need a way to get screen resolution from jni Jul 28 11:22:13 AlCapwn, something like this -- Jul 28 11:22:17 possibly without any system elements Jul 28 11:22:24 so just are that is "mine" Jul 28 11:22:42 area* Jul 28 11:22:57 ughlol: it works fine when not running in a restricted user profile Jul 28 11:23:11 The permission is in the manifest Jul 28 11:23:30 entity, would this help you out? -- https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/android-ndk/5uJmks4_JHs Jul 28 11:23:44 AlCapwn, what do you mean by a restricted user profile? Jul 28 11:25:08 ughlol: the new restricted user profile feature in 4.3 Jul 28 11:25:47 oh i see Jul 28 11:25:58 ughlol: well... i don't have any java code right now, just pure c++ Jul 28 11:26:15 not sure i can have cos i'm using an android port of an engine Jul 28 11:27:22 entity, i dont understand. Could you clarify what exactly you're using and what you want to achieve? I'll be answering you till the pro's (like Mavrik and StingRay_) come back to their desks Jul 28 11:27:52 i just need screen resolution without any system elements Jul 28 11:28:04 but i'm in jni Jul 28 11:28:18 and i don't have any java code whatsoever Jul 28 11:30:52 entity, this might help -- http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12131429/android-get-screen-size-via-c Jul 28 11:33:42 entity, if that didn't help you, do let me know. My c++ skill and android-jni skills might not be up to par. But my Google-fu is real solid. Jul 28 11:34:20 i'm not very sure about this Jul 28 11:34:26 whats the diff btw android version and api level ? Jul 28 11:34:26 where do i put that java code? Jul 28 11:34:43 like i said, i only have c++ code atm Jul 28 11:34:54 no java classes at all Jul 28 11:35:23 bullicon: google : http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/manifest/uses-sdk-element.html#ApiLevels Jul 28 11:35:34 should try a simple search before asking Jul 28 11:35:44 that was 1st 2nd and 3rd results for me Jul 28 11:35:45 :) Jul 28 11:36:00 well different sections of that doc Jul 28 11:36:10 still leading to that though Jul 28 11:36:15 bullicon, API is the Application Programming Interface. Higher API levels contain more classes that help devs increase functionality. But Android versions contain visible changes that are standards etc. Jul 28 11:36:19 Lol. Jul 28 11:36:40 thanks ughlol Jul 28 11:36:48 StingRay_, entity's question seems your type of thing. I'll help bullicon find his answer by googling! :) Jul 28 11:37:04 dunno about jni stuff Jul 28 11:37:04 StingRay_ I knew I would find that by googing Jul 28 11:37:07 bullicon, np. But you should refer to the link that StingRay_ gave you. It will help your understanding. Jul 28 11:37:20 ughlol just want a rough guide for now Jul 28 11:37:28 there is too much to read Jul 28 11:37:29 I would just getDisplayManager() and get the info I need Jul 28 11:37:56 bullicon: it's a simple table, thats all you need Jul 28 11:38:08 in short there is no difference at this moment Jul 28 11:38:13 bullicon, lol. :) Jul 28 11:38:32 except value mapping Jul 28 11:38:34 :) Jul 28 11:38:35 ok StingRay_ the table helps actualy Jul 28 11:38:42 ^^ :) Jul 28 11:39:42 StingRay_: but can you somehow point me in the right direction, i dunno where to put the java code Jul 28 11:39:49 i only have main.cpp right now Jul 28 11:40:02 like I said, no idea Jul 28 11:40:06 dont do c++ Jul 28 11:40:09 or jni Jul 28 11:40:29 I just know how to get it in Java Jul 28 11:41:37 entity, there you go -- http://www.cocos2d-x.org/boards/6/topics/19391 Jul 28 11:42:35 oh he's using cocos2d ? Jul 28 11:42:59 nope lol Jul 28 11:43:07 but that was the best thing that I could find by googling Jul 28 11:43:13 he didn't specify what he's using Jul 28 11:43:22 oh well that works Jul 28 11:43:27 all he says is he wants screen resolution using android-jni and he has c++ Jul 28 11:43:28 it just called native windowManager Jul 28 11:43:34 Hello. In my application, I have a lookup table in my database which will have around ~120 entries. I am wondering if I should fill the table in "onCreate" of my database helper, or when the app is run for the first time, behind a splash screen. Jul 28 11:43:35 but I guess the info in the link should work. Jul 28 11:44:05 sulaiman, you can ask the onCreate() method to call a php script on the server which adds the entries into your table. That would be nice. Jul 28 11:44:55 ughlol, I already know the values, I was thinking of using insert statements on the table from the app Jul 28 11:45:21 sulaiman, it would be much neater just calling a php script which already has all the values. :) Jul 28 11:45:31 whats php got to do with it ? Jul 28 11:45:35 ughlol, then i would need the internet permision Jul 28 11:45:52 StingRay_, he could just call a php script from within onCreate(). Clean. Jul 28 11:46:01 sulaiman, I think you'd need the internet permission either way? Jul 28 11:46:18 ughlol: php to what ? Jul 28 11:46:37 ughlol, I was going to hard code the table data Jul 28 11:46:40 "database helper" <-- think he means an sqlite Jul 28 11:46:44 on the device! Jul 28 11:46:45 Android app --> calls PHP script --> PHP script inserts data into mysql database. Jul 28 11:46:48 yes, that's what I meant Jul 28 11:46:55 LMFAO Jul 28 11:46:57 the sqlite on the database Jul 28 11:46:58 my bad Jul 28 11:46:59 sulaiman: forget php Jul 28 11:47:02 on the device* Jul 28 11:47:17 in your sqlite db you can have create with that many entries Jul 28 11:47:27 as insert/or upgrade sets Jul 28 11:47:36 120 is not really gonna break the bank Jul 28 11:47:57 unless there are 50 fields and blobs in each :) Jul 28 11:48:12 no there are only 2 fields, so i'll stick to onCreate Jul 28 11:48:14 and it's just gonna be the once Jul 28 11:48:23 sulaiman, is it run-time generated data? Jul 28 11:48:41 ughlol, no, it's static Jul 28 11:48:53 well, why dont you have a sqlite db that is pre-populated? Jul 28 11:49:29 instead of having the android-app populate it? Jul 28 11:49:31 ughlol, that's what I meant to ask, where to populate my database, i've decided to do it in the onCreate method now Jul 28 11:49:41 ughlol, oh. I can do that? Jul 28 11:49:46 yes Jul 28 11:50:20 simply copy the database to the /data/data/packaname/ location? Jul 28 11:51:01 yep Jul 28 11:51:48 sulaiman, http://www.razorsql.com/features/sqlite_table_editor.html Jul 28 11:52:01 you can use that to create a pre-populated sqlite db Jul 28 11:52:12 StingRay_, do you think thats a good idea? I really dont know about the consequences. Jul 28 11:53:23 dont know, was not aware you could have any external non-runtime created files outside of RAW assets Jul 28 11:53:37 and then would need to copy to DATA/DATA Jul 28 11:53:49 and 120 x 2 fields is nothing really Jul 28 11:53:57 i agree.. Jul 28 12:10:46 sulaiman, http://blog.softeq.com/2012/12/using-pre-populated-sqlite-database-in.html should guide you through the process of using a pre-populated sqlite database Jul 28 12:25:33 is appcompat/src empty for other people too? Jul 28 12:27:37 It is for everyone Jul 28 12:27:45 The source is compiled in a jar Jul 28 12:28:36 where is the Jar? Jul 28 12:28:42 I only see actionbaractivity inside samples Jul 28 12:28:48 when doing a find in my adk folder Jul 28 12:28:51 In libs Jul 28 12:29:00 It's a library project Jul 28 12:29:04 Just use it as such Jul 28 12:29:43 libs... where? Jul 28 12:29:47 sorry I'm confused Jul 28 12:29:55 In appcompat/ Jul 28 12:29:59 ah Jul 28 12:30:00 right Jul 28 12:30:24 was a little confused. thanks Jul 28 12:31:47 ty SimonVT Jul 28 12:31:57 I'm still going to try to make an apklib, since the rest of my project uses android maven Jul 28 12:33:03 minSdkVersion="14" would solve that Jul 28 12:33:48 you know that if it would solve that I would've been using it for a long time now :) Jul 28 12:35:32 I don't think I can do that until usage drops to below 5% Jul 28 12:35:39 * Yuvi|RanAway is building things for Wikimedia Jul 28 12:36:17 ActionBarSherlock is already available in maven central, could just use that Jul 28 12:36:32 There's pretty much no difference Jul 28 12:37:36 I am currently using that, yeah Jul 28 12:37:55 No reason to switch then Jul 28 12:38:07 just planning on spending an hour to see if I should Jul 28 12:38:24 I think I need yet another library to let me use Drawers with ASB? Jul 28 12:39:15 Neither ABS nor appcompat has drawers Jul 28 12:39:22 support library does Jul 28 12:39:44 So use the support library Jul 28 13:49:26 Yay, we managed to complete our game project! Thanks to all who have helped. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dk.lublu.piratediamonds Jul 28 13:50:26 Is there any way to make tween animations not be clipped by their parent view - for example when translating them? Jul 28 14:13:07 can i show admob as custom view in remoteview in notification ? my program keep crashing , and says : error inflating class admob ..... Jul 28 14:16:52 you want to show an ad in a notification? Jul 28 14:20:40 weox, I advise you to move to LeadBolt Jul 28 14:20:50 less troubles Jul 28 14:20:58 more money Jul 28 14:22:25 Leeds: yes . for one app i should do that Jul 28 14:22:56 I really think you shouldn't Jul 28 14:23:13 You can't Jul 28 14:23:19 thank god Jul 28 14:23:48 SimonVT : i already know apps can do that , if you want i can upload that for you Jul 28 14:23:57 i see it in one game app . Jul 28 14:23:59 RemoteViews doesn't support custom views Jul 28 14:24:18 So no, they're not displaying admob in a notification Jul 28 14:24:35 Leeds: i wen to LeadBolt site, thanks . Jul 28 14:24:44 SimonVT : what they show then ?? Jul 28 14:24:56 I don't know Jul 28 14:24:57 wen = went Jul 28 14:25:07 I don't have any apps that displays ads in notifications Jul 28 14:25:19 if you want i can upload for you , but i am 80% sure it is some thing like ad Jul 28 14:25:38 I'm sure they have ads in a notification Jul 28 14:25:42 But it's not the admob view Jul 28 14:26:26 ads in a notification is a really good way to get notifications blocked, 1* reviews, many uninstalls... Jul 28 14:27:07 Leeds: i agree with that , just imagine ad in notification with ongoing true , it is realy annoying Jul 28 14:27:19 SimonVT: thanks for your time Jul 28 14:27:22 actually, no, it wouldn't be annoying at all Jul 28 14:27:39 because it would get disabled, and probably uninstalled, *really* quickly Jul 28 14:27:51 users just love those push ads :D Jul 28 14:27:56 Leeds: i uninstall any app with out any thought if they want show ad in notification Jul 28 14:28:07 then why the fsck are you asking how to do it? Jul 28 14:28:48 so that he doesn't do it accidentally, jesus Leeds use your Yorkshire brain man Jul 28 14:29:24 Leeds: i am try to do that , 1. i have Experimental to do that , 2. i see one app do that , i am just curious how it doing that Jul 28 14:30:10 1 = i have Experimental app , and i want try that one once Jul 28 14:31:45 sorry i can not type currctly , any way , thanks for your time Leeds Jul 28 14:33:24 ok... Jul 28 14:34:36 Don't suppose anyone here knows why I'd get the following error when I try to import a gradle project in IJ13 on a mac: Project directory '/Users/simonvt/gradletest/build.gradle' is not a directory. Jul 28 14:35:16 Doesn't matter if I open the build.gradle or import the directory and select gradle as the external model Jul 28 15:06:55 anyone know of a site that has a nice collection of holo-friendly icons? I'm looking for osmething that's like "open sidebar" Jul 28 15:10:10 I think holo'like icons are about as simple as it gets Jul 28 15:10:52 StingRay_: basically i'd rather not make one and i'm short on time and oh-my-god where did all those cards in trello come from Jul 28 15:12:13 can I not use otto register inside a fragment in a pagerAdapter ? Jul 28 15:12:45 i setup otto at the activity level and then handle event routing from there Jul 28 15:13:02 huh, suppose Jul 28 15:13:21 just wondering how the structure would prevent it or cause problems on a register Jul 28 15:13:53 does it not work? weird Jul 28 15:13:56 You can register wherever Jul 28 15:14:33 ok, so something I'm doing then Jul 28 15:14:40 * StingRay_ digs deeper Jul 28 15:15:18 hey there guys Jul 28 15:16:34 I'm having the wierdest problem. I've added a internet access permission to my AndroidManifest.xml and every now and again it disappears. I notice it because I get a crash when the app launches but it doesn't tell why it removes the permission. Works for a couple of launches and then, gone... Jul 28 15:16:49 Anyone know if this is a dumb rookie mistake on my behalf? Jul 28 15:23:23 Nevermind, that's what happens when you update your binaries :) Jul 28 15:40:34 ok still stumped Jul 28 15:41:14 fragment works fine outside adapter, inside crashes on otto dispatchProducerResultToHandler Jul 28 15:41:28 take the register away and it's all works Jul 28 15:43:07 Hello everyone! Jul 28 15:49:30 Anyone here who can help me with a soft-keyboard issue? Jul 28 15:50:22 what's your issue Jul 28 15:53:45 Hi funkbox. My issue is that if I try to open the soft-keyboard using ShowSoftInput() of InputMethodManager, the soft-keyboard isn't opened in fullscreen/extract-mode although the app is in landscape mode. Jul 28 15:54:08 why are you explicitly invoking it? Jul 28 15:55:01 I'm working on a game UI where I want to display the soft-keyboard after the user tapped an editbox. Jul 28 15:55:15 ah Jul 28 15:55:44 The issue does only occur on some devices, BTW. Jul 28 15:57:08 I could reproduce the issue on an Acer Iconia B1 and the Nexus 7 emulator image. Jul 28 15:58:05 Sonoma: not super familiar with games, but here's the code i use https://gist.github.com/hamidp/aec4ac5dd60a06d99360 Jul 28 15:58:18 Tablets don't show show the keyboard in full screen Jul 28 16:00:10 SimonVT: And there's no way to force it? Jul 28 16:00:55 I doubt it Jul 28 16:01:20 I'd imagine it's up to the keyboard whether it's full screen or not Jul 28 16:02:38 I checked the android source yesterday and this is what I found for the LatinIME: http://grepcode.com/file/repository.grepcode.com/java/ext/com.google.android/android/4.1.1_r1/android/inputmethodservice/InputMethodService.java#InputMethodService.onEvaluateFullscreenMode%28%29 Jul 28 16:03:45 Sorry wrong link. This is the correct one: http://grepcode.com/file/repository.grepcode.com/java/ext/com.google.android/android-apps/4.1.1_r1/com/android/inputmethod/latin/LatinIME.java#LatinIME Jul 28 16:04:16 Yeah, so it's up to the keyboard Jul 28 16:12:50 I see. Thanks for your help! Jul 28 16:33:57 Hey folks! Been stuck with this problem for three day and have no clue where I'm going wrong. I'm getting a Google Auth Exception: unknown while implementing google SSO in Android Jul 28 16:34:21 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17906699/googleauthexception-unknown-while-doing-google-sso My problem. Jul 28 16:34:29 any help would be much appreciated. Jul 28 16:35:21 does anyone know, why my notification is removed as soon as the app gets closed? Jul 28 16:35:29 even tho my service is still running Jul 28 16:45:42 Im trying to fullscreen a video on rotation (without recreating or launching an activity). Should I be using a SurfaceView for that? its hard to find a clear answer? I know that I have to override onConfigurationChanged(). But are there tutorials about using surfaceview for fullscreen video on rotation? or am I barkin up the wrong tree? Jul 28 16:47:49 has anyone implemented Google SSO on Android here? Jul 28 16:48:36 StingRay_: are you there? Jul 28 16:48:55 ish Jul 28 16:49:16 why? Jul 28 16:49:57 i thought you might know why my sticky service is closed after a while and the notification is just removed as soon as the activity is left Jul 28 16:50:25 code is here: https://github.com/karlsve/AutoLightsOff/blob/master/AutoLightsOff/src/de/karlsve/autolightsoff/LightSwitcher.java Jul 28 16:55:13 no idea Jul 28 16:55:22 I would think your service and die for many reasons Jul 28 16:55:28 should come back up though Jul 28 16:56:07 thats what i thought, especially the notification should not be cleared Jul 28 16:56:10 i would say Jul 28 16:56:31 notification should be held by system, not your app I think Jul 28 16:57:00 unless you dismiss it somewhere Jul 28 16:57:56 it should be dismissed upon destroying of the service since i declare stopForeground there Jul 28 16:59:17 hi, anyone knows if there is a site where to look how "open" certain android devices really are? Jul 28 16:59:28 for example, alone the cyanogenmod support status doesn't say much Jul 28 16:59:51 Anyone here have access to the internal bug tracker? Are the team aware of the gyroscope bugs in 4.3? Jul 28 17:00:23 for example my motorola defy actually was supported, but now there are no easy stable updates to something over android 2.3.x because of some binary blob kernel drivers (it seems) Jul 28 17:03:23 StingRay_: this is really annoying me :D Jul 28 17:03:29 bluesceada dunno; i would imagine its nexus > google edition > developer edition Jul 28 17:03:40 or something like that Jul 28 17:03:49 everything else : all bets are off Jul 28 17:04:26 Hey guys! Anyone implemented google SSO in Android? Jul 28 17:04:33 *begs* *pleads* Jul 28 17:06:53 g00s: i dont get it ... i mean generally for android devices Jul 28 17:07:12 how do I know beforehand that there is even a chance of further updates from the opensource community? Jul 28 17:08:11 bluesceada: what's your dilemma ? Jul 28 17:10:28 funkbox: i want to be able to see easily which vendor/device has everything opensource available Jul 28 17:10:44 bluesceada: "everything" ? Jul 28 17:10:57 no binary blobbed kernel drivers that will prevent me from updating it to recent versions Jul 28 17:11:15 umm yes? everything needed to upgrade to newer android versions Jul 28 17:11:43 you will probably have to keep a list of those devices up to date i guess Jul 28 17:11:48 hmm ok Jul 28 17:11:55 so there is nothing like that available already, ok Jul 28 17:12:03 there might be Jul 28 17:12:11 im just not aware of that Jul 28 17:12:17 All devices have proprietary binary blobs Jul 28 17:12:18 would be nice if that would be added in the cyanogenmod wiki on each device's wiki page Jul 28 17:12:44 Hardware vendors aren't too keen on open sourcing their drivers Jul 28 17:12:47 ok then let's say firmware blobs that get loaded by kernel drivers into the specific hardware are "ok" Jul 28 17:12:53 because those probably will still work when upgrading kernels Jul 28 17:13:00 so at least opensource kernel modules ....? Jul 28 17:13:59 bluesceada: why ? Jul 28 17:14:17 why what Jul 28 17:14:43 linux kernal doesn't have an abi Jul 28 17:14:51 new kernel = new blob Jul 28 17:14:56 bluesceada: why do you want all that Jul 28 17:15:00 sometimes it can work ;) Jul 28 17:15:58 g00s: yeah because of that I want to buy a device only when the kernel module is at least opensource Jul 28 17:16:12 even if it might need to load firmware blobs, whatever ... Jul 28 17:16:29 funkbox: to be sure to be able to get updates? Jul 28 17:16:58 anyway need to go -> afk .. bye Jul 28 17:18:08 bluesceada: just ge ta nexus device Jul 28 17:18:39 if you want to make sure you'll get updates for a device buy what the platform devs are using Jul 28 17:28:55 Alright, so I've come to the conclusion that SharedPreferences is not going to work very well for what I'm trying to do, but the rest of the Preferences system is exactly what I need. Is there a way I could use something like the PreferenceFragment without having to use SharedPreferences? Jul 28 17:29:51 hi, can somebody help me with a simple touch event listener? I'm stuck on some strange behavior, I'm getting ACTION_MOVE even outside my view thus preventing other views to get touch events Jul 28 17:34:50 Hi guys! Anyone who has done Google SSO on android Jul 28 17:34:52 Forkk: what is it that it doesn't do well? if you don't tell us, we don't know which part it is that is "exactly what you need" Jul 28 17:34:53 Need some advice Jul 28 17:34:55 HELP! Jul 28 17:35:45 Xabster, well, I'm going to make a system where users add things to a list and each one has its own set of settings Jul 28 17:36:11 and each also has two of its own lists that things are added to and each of those have their own settings Jul 28 17:36:27 i'd say use sqlite Jul 28 17:36:32 ^^ Jul 28 17:36:49 The problem with that is that I'm going to have different types of things with different sets of settings. Jul 28 17:36:55 SQLite doesn't hold up well there Jul 28 17:37:01 i tried to "hack" my way to use sharedpreferences too, but it wasn't good/faster/prettier for what you're asking Jul 28 17:37:03 so I decided to use JSON Jul 28 17:37:27 ok.. Jul 28 17:37:34 The problem, though, is that the Preferences system is perfect for what I want except for the sharedpreferences part Jul 28 17:37:46 yeah, too bad its tightly coupled like that Jul 28 17:37:57 Because each thing needs to be able to specify what its options are Jul 28 17:37:58 Forkk you may want to take a look at the Settings app Jul 28 17:38:05