**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 15 02:59:59 2013 Aug 15 03:26:22 * gummylick too drunk to code. Aug 15 04:14:09 For building an android app that talks to a server with a web interface, what is the best way to authenticate your user on both Aug 15 04:14:59 what would a drop down menu list gui component in android be called? Aug 15 04:44:47 BullShark: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/controls/spinner.html Aug 15 04:46:07 bankai_ -> thanks Aug 15 04:50:38 are there any descriptions of the stuff in the repo/manifest … as things get larger i have to be more selective about what i pull down. but i'm not so sure about a lot of these repos Aug 15 05:10:51 doubtful Aug 15 05:15:03 wow, are you downloading aosp for the first time now? Aug 15 05:15:24 pfn lol, no … i think i did about 6mos ago :P Aug 15 05:15:35 maybe longer Aug 15 05:15:40 sure sounds like the first time Aug 15 05:18:05 you can specify the groups you want to repo Aug 15 05:18:15 it's defined in manifest Aug 15 05:25:10 when using "match_parent" of the outermost Layout, what is it's parent? Aug 15 05:25:20 its* Aug 15 05:25:55 i think its a frame layout Aug 15 05:27:11 so what is being used? a default value for frame layout? Aug 15 05:28:35 BullShark see http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/03/android-layout-tricks-3-optimize-by.html Aug 15 05:29:49 notice id/content Aug 15 05:30:08 if thats what you were asking (outermost layout) Aug 15 05:31:11 the first line of the xml layout beings with the first line of the xml layout begins* with g00s you failed me Aug 15 05:35:04 you are back in android Aug 15 05:35:26 actually spend most of my time on something else :P Aug 15 05:35:42 but i would like to maintain my app Aug 15 05:36:51 did you guys see that interview with Larry Ellison the other day? i wonder how correct he is about apple Aug 15 05:37:21 he doesn't give too many interviews Aug 15 05:38:08 isnt larry ellison the oracle dude? Aug 15 05:38:19 ya Aug 15 05:38:30 heres what I say... hes probably right abut apple to some extent Aug 15 05:38:42 but whos he to be making predictions like that Aug 15 05:38:50 his company has gone from the very top Aug 15 05:38:56 to becoming a dinasaur Aug 15 05:39:31 oracle does seem like its being nibbled on Aug 15 05:39:48 oracle related shit I've used in the last 5 years Aug 15 05:39:55 they just dont hold ANY competition Aug 15 05:40:04 the comptetition and business they have is old legacy shit Aug 15 05:40:10 their database engine is a fucking joke imo Aug 15 05:40:58 they got the biggest dba network because to manage their db's you actually need a dba Aug 15 05:41:03 i dont really care about them; he did have a special relationship to steve though; he probably knew some interesting things about the company Aug 15 05:41:10 g00s -> i understand from the link you gave that allows you to place views on the root FrameLayout, but how can we know what attributes the root FrameLayout has? Aug 15 05:41:32 BullShark hmm Aug 15 05:48:37 why do you need to know it's attributes Aug 15 05:48:49 it's a full screen frame layout Aug 15 05:49:47 it has no attributes of interest Aug 15 06:21:37 bummer, couldn't get wcd or kcd to compile on mac Aug 15 06:22:06 kcd was awesome; sucks when its not maintained any more Aug 15 06:34:03 pfn -> because id like to know what i am getting from match_parent Aug 15 06:36:03 pfn -> it's not a full screen layout if you look at the view hierarchy g00s gave a link to Aug 15 06:44:33 g00s -> btw, using breaks text completion in eclipse =/ Aug 15 06:44:57 is Android Studio stable enough to use while learning how to develop for Android? Aug 15 06:45:41 I would say no :> Aug 15 06:45:47 hmm, okay. Aug 15 06:45:57 But you can give it a try. Aug 15 06:46:19 probably wouldn't hurt, I suppose. Aug 15 06:46:46 just didn't want to become familiar with Eclipse if I'm going to eventually end up using Android Studio Aug 15 06:47:04 sanitypassing: yes. it's perfectly stable Aug 15 06:47:11 ...enough Aug 15 06:47:37 if you're really worried just use IntelliJ IDEA 12 Aug 15 06:48:05 hmm, I've never even heard of that. Aug 15 06:48:38 Android Studio is 99.9% IntelliJ IDEA Aug 15 06:49:22 it's an IDE that is far more stable, powerful, and sane than Eclipse Aug 15 06:49:24 well that would probably make the transition easier Aug 15 06:49:41 Yeah, never liked Eclipse. It's what has kept me from learning Java thus far. Aug 15 06:49:42 it would. they are the exact same thing. Aug 15 06:50:28 Studio itself is stable, but lint warning and stuff is way better visible in eclipse. Though using Android Studio will make you learn to use gradle Aug 15 06:52:37 In Studio there was an Issue with resource matching for app compat. IDEA told you that it cannot find themes, but you could build and run the app perfectly. This is one example of an issue, you might will have. In the latest version it is fixed, but there might be more bugs in the ADTs Aug 15 06:53:14 well I'm not looking to be able to produce anything right now, so I can probably just deal with bugs. Aug 15 06:57:54 sanitypassing: give it a try and let us know how things worked for you :) Aug 15 06:58:06 can do. :D Aug 15 06:59:43 JakeWharton are you using AS or idea 12 at work ? Aug 15 07:00:10 AS and IJ 13 EAPs Aug 15 07:00:50 JakeWharton: but there is no Android Plus for IJ 13? Aug 15 07:00:54 *plugin Aug 15 07:01:05 sure there is Aug 15 07:01:15 Cool. Aug 15 07:01:16 Android Studio *is* the android plugin for IntelliJ Aug 15 07:01:26 they are one and the same Aug 15 07:01:48 Yeah, but it is shipped bundled with the community edition Aug 15 07:03:12 I'd like to purchase IntelliJ Idea UE + the support like Android Studio Aug 15 07:06:05 the intelliJ versions are just a few weeks behind in the features Aug 15 07:07:18 okay, I see, got it Aug 15 07:08:06 EAP sounds nice, I'll check it at weekend for my private project Aug 15 07:10:37 I was ta Aug 15 07:11:43 I was totally wrong about how IntelliJ and Google are creating Android Studio. I thought it's just a branch from the community version, enhanced, and pulling the community master from time to time. Aug 15 07:12:19 could anyone have any book recommendations? Aug 15 07:13:38 JakeWharton is the gradle plugin in tools/build ? i did a repo sync for just that , but nothing downloaded - i must have f'd the manifest Aug 15 07:14:43 Tools are filtered by default. You have to add them. Aug 15 07:15:14 I'm on mobile. Google for building Android Studio and you'll run into the repo command. Aug 15 07:15:40 k, thx Aug 15 07:16:30 well, I've apparently already encountered an issue with android studio. Aug 15 07:17:24 It was on adt-dev@ Aug 15 07:17:54 g00s: it's here http://tools.android.com/build Aug 15 07:18:08 it apparently decided to allocate 1.8 GB of RAM and then crash. Aug 15 07:18:11 JakeWharton thanks Aug 15 07:18:38 -notdefault should be enough Aug 15 07:19:13 sanitypassing: this is probably an layer-8 issue Aug 15 07:25:34 wow, bigger than i thought Aug 15 07:26:04 i mean, the plugin is pretty complex Aug 15 07:33:53 Hello guys, is there a way to implement a offline version for a certain spot of google maps in an android app Aug 15 07:37:01 tagrudev maybe try open street maps (OSM) Aug 15 07:37:39 did that not fun Aug 15 07:51:11 Hello. I need some help. I got an app in the store that I got from my companys coding subsidary. Now the app that is in the Store works fine and so does the new version. But sadly the old Version doesnt detect the new Version in any way (dont get an update option). What went wrong and where ? Aug 15 07:56:47 Sadly, our coding team is a continent away and our TPM is gone. So I'd love some help from you guys, much appreciated. Aug 15 07:57:49 Guys, need a bit of help. I'm using an ABDT for my navigation drawer, and no matter what I do, the nav drawer icon doesnt appear at all. Aug 15 07:58:16 I have the ic_drawer png all setup, etc. Aug 15 07:59:28 anyone using sherlock with android studio Aug 15 07:59:39 is there a how to on importing it ? Aug 15 08:00:37 any ideas? Aug 15 08:02:41 min sdk for this is 14 desmin88 Aug 15 08:03:00 tagrudev: atm im using 17. Aug 15 08:05:19 SrRaven-work, are there two different entries in the store, are the package names different? Aug 15 08:05:38 no a single entry Aug 15 08:06:06 package names...may be different, cant check it can I ? Aug 15 08:07:06 when did you upload the new version? Aug 15 08:07:25 Friday Aug 15 08:07:57 I didnt upload it, my company did Aug 15 08:08:12 this is probably some dumb rookie mistake, hmm. Aug 15 08:08:51 does the new version appear correctly, e.g., on the websites of the play store? Aug 15 08:08:56 yes Aug 15 08:08:59 new screenshots etc Aug 15 08:09:06 when I download it (after removing old version) it works fine too Aug 15 08:15:20 SrRaven-work, I don't know if the play store doesn't prevent this but if the versionCodes of both version would be the same this could be an explanation, although I don't really think it's possible Aug 15 08:15:39 Huzzah! forgot to set getActionBar().setDisplayHomeAsUpEnabled(true); Aug 15 08:15:44 Nah, our App Deployment Team mentioned that too. We have a new VersionCode in the new Version Aug 15 08:17:12 just tested it, the developer console shows an error if the versioncode is the same as of the last release Aug 15 08:18:29 the package name might be an issue Aug 15 08:18:38 but I somehow doubt that, is there a way to check that ? Aug 15 08:18:51 like "catch" the apk from the store to see it? Aug 15 08:19:19 well, if you have the apks it's possible Aug 15 08:19:35 however, what about the keys used for the signature, did they possibly change? Aug 15 08:19:36 I have the apks (from our provider) not our store though Aug 15 08:19:50 nope,same team that signed it Aug 15 08:20:18 somehow the App in Store also shows that you have the App already installed, just sooooooomething is missing to show its an update Aug 15 08:25:40 EPG any idea if the apk filename itself matters? Aug 15 08:26:29 shouldn't have any effect Aug 15 08:27:03 well than I really have no fcking idea what went wrong :( Aug 15 08:27:08 then* Aug 15 08:27:12 also after reading up a bit on this, I believe that a new package name would also require a new app page etc. and likely isn't the issue Aug 15 08:27:21 oki Aug 15 08:27:57 well meh Aug 15 08:28:32 on which/how many devices does this problem occur? Aug 15 08:30:38 every single device Aug 15 08:31:35 Personally tested it on the N4,colleagues have same problem on all their mobile versions Aug 15 08:33:12 anyone know how to structure java classes via a DAO to have a new table that has a child relationship to another table? I'm new to Android dev and trying to modify some open source code Aug 15 08:34:20 SrRaven-work, it's a free app, right? Aug 15 08:34:33 yes Aug 15 08:36:04 was the old version also installed via the play store? Aug 15 08:36:14 yes Aug 15 08:36:29 well yes and no, I didnt cause im the QA Guy here Aug 15 08:36:37 so I have to remove and test it all the time Aug 15 08:36:46 but colleagues used the official play download Aug 15 08:40:59 SrRaven-work, I haven't any other "good" idea anymore. I'd get both the old and new apk, get the AndroidManifest.xml's out of them and compare them as a start. Aug 15 08:42:00 yeh have both of them open Aug 15 08:42:03 full of jibber jabber sadly Aug 15 08:42:12 is there a "proper" way to open it? Aug 15 08:42:52 you can decode it via apktool Aug 15 08:45:02 and dont need any special key or something? Aug 15 08:46:07 no Aug 15 08:46:25 need SDK to run apktool or am I reading this wrong? Aug 15 08:49:32 SrRaven-work, afaik not Aug 15 08:50:36 you need the aapt tool which is part of the SDK but also on the download site of apktool Aug 15 08:54:28 kk Aug 15 08:57:50 well crap I cant install JRE on my machine due to company policy Aug 15 08:59:29 SrRaven-work, if you want, I can check this on my machine quick (I guess this should be no problem if the app is available for free on the play store) Aug 15 08:59:58 you need the two manifest files right? Aug 15 09:00:15 yes, but decoded Aug 15 09:00:27 yeah and you will encode...right? Aug 15 09:01:49 well, you've extracted from the apk which resulted in something rather unreadable Aug 15 09:02:09 using apktool you can decode the whole apk very easy, incl. the manifest Aug 15 09:02:29 however, I don't know if it's possible to only decode the manifest using apktool Aug 15 09:02:44 well,will be worth a try I guess Aug 15 09:23:21 have the strange'ush problem Aug 15 09:24:10 in a ListFragment inside a ViewPager when ever I drag the list to the left or right on top of a row with 3 textviews it doesn't drag Aug 15 09:24:21 if I drag the list anywhere it works Aug 15 09:25:14 so why is my textviews consuming the touch event when they are not clickable, focusable, no listeners just plain size, margins, and that's it Aug 15 09:29:00 selectable? Aug 15 09:29:19 like moving a cursor.. Aug 15 09:38:23 cmaier: I removed the singleLine and maxLines=1 and now the ViewPager drags Aug 15 09:38:35 but why?? Aug 15 10:14:20 why we are using MainActivity.this Aug 15 10:14:24 cant we just use this Aug 15 10:14:26 ? Aug 15 10:14:43 its a context Aug 15 10:15:08 this isnt a context too Aug 15 10:15:10 ? Aug 15 10:15:49 yeah but if you are using a this is a async then it shows error , its like providing a correct address then just pointing to the direction Aug 15 10:18:28 you mean Aug 15 10:18:30 async context ? Aug 15 10:18:35 I dont understand Aug 15 10:19:04 MainActivity.this points to the outer classes this in an anonymous class Aug 15 10:19:22 oh Aug 15 10:19:38 like new onClickListener(){ here}; Aug 15 10:20:31 am I true Aug 15 10:23:33 bilgisayarci: yes, that is an anonymous class Aug 15 10:23:48 thanks guys Aug 15 10:27:56 http://android-developers.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/some-securerandom-thoughts.html Aug 15 10:27:59 my newbie question -> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18250286/how-do-i-structure-java-classes-for-this-android-project-to-represent-a-child-re Aug 15 10:27:59 :( Aug 15 10:43:52 I have what I think an important question regarding publishing on play store: If I used to sell an apk of I.D. "com.example.app" on account-X and for some banking related reasons, e.g. shifting to another country, I have of course to continue selling the same package ID on a different account-Y. so will the app continue with the updates on the customer phones? Aug 15 10:54:47 no Aug 15 10:55:12 You won't be able to use the same package name on two different accounts Aug 15 11:03:37 you can request that they move an app to another account - i did it before, you just contact them from the current account and the new account and it takes them a couple days or so Aug 15 11:14:56 Hey guys, how do I delete project from Android Studio and make it forget them. Somehow it keeps remembering them! It's so annoying Aug 15 11:23:21 right-click delete? Aug 15 11:23:30 or select and on a mac fn + back? Aug 15 11:26:24 cmaier, when I reopen the app it builds the projects again Aug 15 11:26:33 I've even removed the gradle files Aug 15 11:28:26 Has any of you guys used the "contentDescription" in an xml layout? Aug 15 11:33:54 sja! Aug 15 11:34:26 maybe a strange question, but can i submit my app to the playstore and say it needs to have minimal 720p screen as lower requirement? Aug 15 11:37:54 xlarge screens are at least 960dp x 720dp Aug 15 11:37:54 large screens are at least 640dp x 480dp Aug 15 11:38:03 720 is width i guess? Aug 15 11:44:17 Is it possible to get Licence Test Response from developer account when any APK is published to production? Aug 15 11:44:43 Asmooh: http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html (not sure if what you want is possible) Aug 15 11:44:57 yeah im there already :) Aug 15 11:44:59 :) Aug 15 11:45:09 i dont really get it, when i check the picture Aug 15 11:45:21 it says large goes till 7 inch Aug 15 11:45:28 but normally 4inch and higher is 720p Aug 15 11:45:35 doesnt make sense Aug 15 11:45:36 Asmooh: that depends on screen density Aug 15 11:45:42 how many pixels per inch Aug 15 11:45:54 hm Aug 15 11:46:00 what should 720p be? Aug 15 11:46:04 large or extra large Aug 15 11:46:17 720p is minimum my app supports Aug 15 11:46:28 dp = density independant pixel..... something like pixel * (density/standard_density) Aug 15 11:46:34 yeah Aug 15 11:46:43 but how do i know that for all devices :O Aug 15 11:46:50 i work based on screen res :) Aug 15 11:47:03 well you should adapt to devices Aug 15 11:47:13 what should be same size regardless of density, is in 'dp' Aug 15 11:47:22 hm Aug 15 11:48:06 and if device is smaller, you scale image down, add scrollview... dont be so picky about user devices Aug 15 11:48:20 your goal is to cover as many devices as possible Aug 15 11:48:34 even if experience isnt optimal. i think. Aug 15 11:48:39 well, no not totally Aug 15 11:48:52 my goal is only accept devices with minimal 720p screens and higher Aug 15 11:48:53 :) Aug 15 11:49:12 for now at least Aug 15 11:49:29 how can i check the current activity from activity stack ? Aug 15 11:49:34 Hey guys, how do I delete project from Android Studio and make it forget them. Somehow it keeps remembering them! It's so annoying Aug 15 11:49:34 in android Aug 15 11:50:57 I want to make a service which keeps looking at the activity stack and run a activity Y when the current activity is X Aug 15 11:53:56 hi guys could anyone help me ? Aug 15 12:02:05 is there any way to show an invisible native activity on top of another application? Aug 15 12:03:13 reason I ask is becuase the Xperia Play only accepts input via a NativeActivity which when losing focus means you lose input Aug 15 12:23:50 Hiho Aug 15 12:24:17 i'm currently working on my bachelors thesis with the topic "extending the android's lockscreen" Aug 15 12:24:47 is there anyone who is into that? Aug 15 12:24:57 im trying to understand the whole keyguard stuff Aug 15 12:25:15 but still have some problems.. so sad there isnt any documentation Aug 15 12:29:22 there's code - what more do you need??? Aug 15 12:30:11 i need to open a activity Y when user open a activity X , by a service in background Aug 15 12:36:37 hello Aug 15 12:36:51 how do I group controls? Aug 15 12:37:29 so I can run a command like .Visibility = GONE and all the ontrols would begone Aug 15 12:40:24 add them all to ArrayList controls and then for (View v : controls) { v.setVisibility(View.GONE); } (dont know any magic for that) Aug 15 12:40:40 how can i run a activity X when a activity Y is started by the user (Y) being the calling activity Aug 15 12:40:50 i want to do this with a service Aug 15 12:41:10 like fo example in a language like VB.NET, there is either a view or a grid Aug 15 12:41:32 and there controls are actually INSIDE it Aug 15 12:42:36 if they are all inside same ViewGroup (such as LinearLayout, RelativeLayout,...) you can hide that viewgroup too Aug 15 12:43:12 whats the difference between them? Aug 15 12:49:45 MDTech-us_MAN: http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Understanding_Android_Views,_View_Groups_and_Layouts Aug 15 12:51:18 i was away and i will repeat my question Aug 15 12:51:21 I have what I think an important question regarding publishing on play store: If I used to sell an apk of I.D. "com.example.app" on account-X and for some banking related reasons, e.g. shifting to another country, I have of course to continue selling the same package ID on a different account-Y. so will the app continue with the updates on the customer phones? Aug 15 12:52:03 i should say, will the app keep updating as usual? Aug 15 12:52:22 superlinux-hp: 13:03 < carbohydrate> you can request that they move an app to another account - i did it before, you just contact them from the current account and the new account and it takes them a couple days or so Aug 15 12:53:06 miha, is the moving free of charge? Aug 15 12:54:51 superlinux-hp: dont know never did that Aug 15 12:55:26 See, my damie, Pootie Tang don't wa-da-tah to the shama cow... 'cause thats a cama cama leepa-chaiii, dig? Ain't come one, but many tine tanies! Aug 15 13:01:00 miha, thank you Aug 15 13:04:54 http://android-developers.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/some-securerandom-thoughts.html if someone missed this Aug 15 13:08:57 can we access the uninstall system activity ? Aug 15 13:11:24 how to check if user is in a perticular system activity through a service Aug 15 13:11:36 Xabster ? can you help ? Aug 15 13:12:15 p_l if you could guide me somewhere ? Aug 15 13:12:26 sd Aug 15 13:14:50 wrong key combination Aug 15 13:15:10 android doesnt get when i make a pic in html5 50x50 that is should be 50x50 and not 81x81 Aug 15 13:27:09 Question: After registration to GCM can I get my canonical reg-id? Aug 15 13:33:21 jan1337z: Not sure what you mean, but maybe gcm = GoogleCloudMessaging.getInstance(this); then regid = gcm.register(SENDER_ID); Aug 15 13:33:40 this = your activity Aug 15 13:35:04 I am just wondering how I can clean my regid list after sending Aug 15 13:35:22 If I have failures I guess I should delete those I ids from the DB Aug 15 13:35:54 yes, you need to check return codes and request a new one if the old one fails. Aug 15 13:50:21 kjeldahl, is there a list of possible return codes and their meaning? Aug 15 13:50:41 jan1337z: I have no idea. Aug 15 13:51:55 jan1337z: But this page probably explains most of it; http://developer.android.com/google/gcm/client.html Aug 15 13:52:51 It seems the registration id is valid until the app gets updated, so I may have misled you.. Aug 15 13:53:39 I want to clean it on the server side Aug 15 13:55:23 Well, that's easy, just add an api endpoint that removes it, similar to what you do when you app "phones home" with it's own regid (when it gets inserted). Or am I missing something? Aug 15 13:55:25 After making my post to http://android.googleapis.com/gcm/send I want to clean my DB with the informations provided by the response Aug 15 13:56:46 I'm having a problem, setting OnScrollListener of an ExpandableListView , it seems it does not get called. Anyone know about this ? Aug 15 13:59:47 check that you're not setting it 2x Aug 15 14:03:17 I think I know where things go awry. I have a hunch at least :) Aug 15 14:06:47 hunch correct. Wee! :D Aug 15 14:18:23 I'm working on a custom AppWidgetHost and wan't to be able to drag the widgets. However, I don't get onTouch/onLongClick events for the AppWidgetHostViews although I register the corresponding listeners. How can I detect when the widget is long clicked or touched? Aug 15 14:26:58 I'm developing mobile website with main action to upload photo. User clicks "Choose file", Android offers different sources for it, chooses Camera and takes picture, uploads it. When i tested on my device, browser got killed by Android while camera was running and when i finished taking photo, browser loaded page again and "Choose file" field was empty Aug 15 14:26:58 Should this be a common behaviour on non-high-end phones? Aug 15 14:34:10 hello Aug 15 14:34:17 how I get featured on Google Play? Anyone has a clue? Aug 15 14:34:45 My rating is above 4.6 and I am top25 in my category in my target countries (mostly in europe) Aug 15 14:34:57 speeder: you need to sleep with a bunch of google engineers Aug 15 14:35:16 Ge0rG: :( Aug 15 14:35:33 seriously, no idea. I suppose Google will contact you if they want to feature your app Aug 15 14:37:56 speeder, you talk to google Aug 15 14:38:10 speeder, there's an editorial team that does that Aug 15 14:38:14 Can I get some advice here... I am interested in learning to write programs for the Android OS, I have moderate experience with BASIC, VB, ASP, C++, Java and HTML ... Obviously I dont even know what I dont know, so what Im asking where should I start I dont want to diver right in to the middle of things I want to get a good foundation of how things work... what advice can you give me, resources to get, and book/sites t Aug 15 14:38:14 o read/view Aug 15 14:38:17 Mavrik: how I do that? Aug 15 14:38:27 uh Aug 15 14:38:36 Mavrik: I've been looking for a way to contact the editorial team since like forever Aug 15 14:38:38 grrrr damn android doesnt get what i want -_- Aug 15 14:39:03 maybe its the phone because on a S4 it worked perfect Aug 15 14:40:22 I even found a brazillian googled, that reviewed my apps and said they are approved to be featured, and then I asked him: "what now?" his reply was: "it is up to the editorial team now, so dunno." Also he said he can only pass his official report to brazillian editorial team, and although I am brazillian living in Brazil, my target market right now is europe (not only france and germany, but Russia, Portugal, etc… too) Aug 15 14:40:40 but when I e-mailed a US googled, he forwarded to the brazillian googler because I am from Brazil Aug 15 14:41:00 (and the Brazillian googler got upset, because he thought that I e-mailed the US googler because I was impatient with him) Aug 15 14:41:19 it is maddening :( Aug 15 14:43:10 It is John Madden'ing Aug 15 14:49:54 j Aug 15 14:52:01 why is the AVD emulator so slow and sluggish? Aug 15 14:53:22 can i do anything to make it faster? im trying to emulate a samsung galaxy s3, and an s4... s4 refuses to run without using the host GPU, and is much slower than the s3 Aug 15 15:01:56 Hello people, is it possible to merge adt and kepler? Aug 15 15:08:05 if i have a custom adapter on a dialoginterface, how can I change the background color of an item once its pressed? Aug 15 15:09:09 the dialoginterface has an onclicklistener, so when something gets clicked on, the item should have already changed the background color when it called th handler Aug 15 15:11:59 heres the code for the dialog box itself, http://www.fpaste.org/32330/76579400/ The setAdapter takes the adapter and a click handler. Here is the code for the adapter, http://www.fpaste.org/32331/57947613/ The rows are alternating in color already. Aug 15 15:17:27 how much advanced java knowledge is it required for android programming? Aug 15 15:17:55 define "advanced" Aug 15 15:18:27 molossus, Aug 15 15:18:39 jan1337z, like building those cools apps in the android store, i mean does that involve deeply knowing advanced java? Aug 15 15:19:24 i know the usual : ifs else, while, for loop, arrays, arraylist, i know how to create objects, inheritance extend classes Aug 15 15:19:52 but for some reason when i see android code i cant seem to put it together like in just plain java , or php programming Aug 15 15:20:03 molossus, you should have a very basic understanding in threading and some knowledge about networking as well Aug 15 15:20:51 i want to be able to write code on my own for android apps without having to look at examples all the time , but seems so different from a plain java application Aug 15 15:20:52 and then deal with the android architecture and get some fundamental knowledge Aug 15 15:21:28 I am an android developer for like 3 years now and I still look at examples Aug 15 15:22:14 google for best practices and stuff Aug 15 15:22:15 jan1337z, how did you start with android programming? was it also confusing at the beginning even if you understood java? Aug 15 15:22:56 What is the difference between ITEM_TYPE_SHORTCUT and ITEM_TYPE_APPWIDGET? I'm dumping info from the laucher SQLite database and I don't understand the itemType field ... which sometimes hold 0 and sometimes hold 1 for different apps on the home screens. Aug 15 15:23:00 I had to modify an app @ my job so I was quite confused … read a book and googled a lot Aug 15 15:24:19 but look back it is very important to know the fundamental elements and have a robust understanding in the basics Aug 15 15:24:24 *looking Aug 15 15:25:17 the big thing is to not get overwhelmed. Looking at a rather large project will be overwhelming, take a look at some smaller example projects that are meant to just demo certain features Aug 15 15:25:29 I started doing Android after only doing pure java and i found it rather easy really Aug 15 15:25:40 also 3 odd years ago Aug 15 15:26:16 Wasn't half as much documentation and stuff back then, just read the developer site and got on with it. It's best to get an understanding of how Android works and move on from there imo Aug 15 15:26:30 is it ok to start by looking at lynda.com building a note app taking ? does anyone had a experience with video training? or are books better ? Aug 15 15:27:34 Hi. I am currently trying to build an app for a website to view its content more comfortably on a phone. To reduce data usage I decided to write a php based API so I only receive relevant information. I now run into the problem though how I handle the loginsystem the website has. I have no access to the database of the website and previously I managed the session, cookies etc. from within the app. A Aug 15 15:27:34 ny ideas? Aug 15 15:28:16 Flaiker, are you using a webview? Aug 15 15:28:36 flaiker you could have the php script send the information to the actual site and recieve the cookies and throw those back to the client also Aug 15 15:29:04 jan1337z: I do not Aug 15 15:29:52 jonc: that seems logical. Ill look into doing it that way thanks Aug 15 15:31:06 Could there be problems because the website receives all these requests from one IP (the api server)? Aug 15 15:31:29 as long as you aren't spamming several a second then it shouldn't be a problem Aug 15 15:31:40 having a problem running avd's Aug 15 15:31:55 i run emulator -avd blah and i get segmentation fault Aug 15 15:32:26 emulator -avd avd -gpu on is what i actually run Aug 15 15:32:34 jonc: okay thx Aug 15 15:32:50 When I made a facebook scraper it took quite a few calls per second to finally get banned for a day Aug 15 15:33:40 had on the order of 100 threads running (most of the time was waiting on IO so figured why not test the limits) hitting facebook to pull public interest data down Aug 15 15:36:05 ok if i run emulator-arm -avd avd it works but the avd window has no window decorations Aug 15 15:36:12 i.e. i cant drag it Aug 15 15:36:33 BullShark, for all intents and purposes, it's fullscreen and you don't have to worry, the rest is window decor Aug 15 15:37:21 why does my avd window not have any window decorations? Aug 15 15:37:31 i have no title bar or close button or any of that Aug 15 15:40:02 my app has GPS usage in an activity. and if my phone auto-rotates from portrait to landscape the GPS service gets killed for no reason. how can I let the GPS resume? Aug 15 15:40:25 are you using the support libraries? Aug 15 15:40:52 jonc, talking to me? Aug 15 15:40:55 and a fragment activity / fragments Aug 15 15:40:56 yeah Aug 15 15:41:11 just a simple activity Aug 15 15:41:22 I know there is a known issue with recreating fragments using the support library sometimes Aug 15 15:41:24 simple form of inputs Aug 15 15:41:34 can someone tell me why my avd window has no decorations? Aug 15 15:41:37 gotcha, check the stack trace? Aug 15 15:41:52 anyway i can simply force the activity to portrait Aug 15 15:41:53 every other window gets them. why does the avd not have a title bar or close button or resize widgets? Aug 15 15:42:25 jonc I have to go outside to test the GPS. I cannot move my box Aug 15 15:42:43 anyone> Aug 15 15:42:48 i mean my PC Aug 15 15:42:49 you can use the last known position for testing Aug 15 15:43:28 simply i don't care.. I always set it to portrait. it's just for calculations. nothing more Aug 15 15:43:41 manager.getLastKnownLocation(LocationManager.NETWORK_PROVIDER) something like that but use GPS_PROVIDER I believe Aug 15 15:43:55 i know. i know Aug 15 15:46:03 can someone please tell me why my avd window has ZERO decorations? Aug 15 15:46:12 i have no title bar so i cannot drag the window Aug 15 15:46:14 i have no close button Aug 15 15:46:17 i have nothing Aug 15 15:46:24 wtf over? Aug 15 15:52:39 can i force the AVD emulator to use more than 1 cpu core? it could be why its so slow Aug 15 15:53:33 the emulator will always be relatively slow, it emulates a different CPU architecture Aug 15 15:53:41 lol that would be a good question, specially as i have 12 ores :) Aug 15 15:54:08