**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 30 02:59:58 2013 Aug 30 03:00:55 never mind. I restarted a second time and it appears to be working Aug 30 03:25:47 dcow: hmm.... maybe safe to just create new ones then. Aug 30 03:31:14 Anyone familiar with Android Studio. If I want to include a project like ViewPagerIndicator, how do I include it correctly into my project Aug 30 03:40:39 hey everyone, I'd like to compile the project here: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_external_exfat Aug 30 03:41:11 however, I'm getting two compile time errors: in function exfat_pread:external/exfat/libexfat/io.c:291: error: undefined reference to 'pread64' Aug 30 03:41:22 in function exfat_pwrite:external/exfat/libexfat/io.c:305: error: undefined reference to 'pwrite64' Aug 30 03:41:39 actuallu they're errors during linking Aug 30 03:41:48 anyone have any ideas how to solve this? Aug 30 03:42:25 hey does anyone know how to apply the Holo theme to a Notification.Builder / RemoteView? It seems to be using the old pre-Holo theme on buttons that I'm adding to the layout. Thanks. Aug 30 03:47:12 hey RyanM... you still there Aug 30 03:52:22 Hi all, I changed my MainActivity to extend FragmentActivity so I could use Fused Location services but now I'm getting a "java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Didn't find class" error. Does anyone know how I can fix this? Aug 30 03:53:13 Hi I am having problems with GCM on Android 2.3 and 2.2 I am getting the following error: http://pastebin.com/W9ti99VU Aug 30 03:55:49 any ideas? Aug 30 04:07:33 totic a few people have mentioned issues with gcm and 2.3 / 2.2 … unless that was you and i forgot :P Aug 30 04:08:14 that was me! Aug 30 04:08:20 I got it working on 3 > Aug 30 04:09:00 I got it working on GS2, GS4, GTab 7-2 but not in GTab 7-1 Aug 30 04:10:46 it should be the same for each, right? O.o Aug 30 04:11:46 so i wonder, when google updates play services, if they even test it themselves on all these devices Aug 30 04:13:57 it shouldldddd... Aug 30 04:13:59 but no Aug 30 04:15:48 ok.. i am running the kali linux distro. i installed the android development toolkit. the issue i am have is i cannot access my phone from the computer..^^my phone is a samsung sch-i200 ^^this is the error i am getting:Error mounting: mount: /dev/sr1 already mounted or /media/VERIZON MOBILE busy Aug 30 04:15:56 can anybory help Aug 30 04:16:31 should I learn android dev or iOS dev Aug 30 04:16:45 I am very knowledgeable of Mathematics, Java, C++ and some assembler knowledge Aug 30 04:16:45 learn both Aug 30 04:17:04 Which should I start with? Aug 30 04:17:41 well, if you ask in iphonedev, they will say iphone, if you ask here, we will say android Aug 30 04:17:50 kinda depends what you need to do Aug 30 04:18:09 fool what kind of phone do you have' Aug 30 04:18:10 I want the skills to look good on a resume Aug 30 04:18:15 I have a note II Aug 30 04:18:20 but I don't really ever use it Aug 30 04:18:26 foolcool: do you have a mac? Aug 30 04:18:50 then i would start with android Aug 30 04:18:57 as far as i'm concermed, if this is about prettying up your resume, you've failed from the gate Aug 30 04:19:25 i hope you have a better reason, like, you find it interesting Aug 30 04:19:44 btw, the bubble is almost over, you're late to the resume-prettying party Aug 30 04:20:56 g00s: well I'm starting a java devel job in 2 weeks, but I'm trying to get some freelance work in the meantime Aug 30 04:21:12 and cleaver: I have a vm running windows 7 running vmware running osx, lol Aug 30 04:21:35 no, I don't find it interesting. I find cuda and gpu programming interesting Aug 30 04:22:16 freelance work in 2 weeks? Aug 30 04:22:19 yeah, that doesn't happen Aug 30 04:22:32 foolcool: i was trying to port my android app to ios, but no mater what i did, cant get osx to boot in the emulator Aug 30 04:22:37 so thats just a dead end Aug 30 04:22:38 i've just been searching around on the internet Aug 30 04:22:49 I just have way too much free time Aug 30 04:24:09 take advantage of it while you can Aug 30 04:24:14 then you start working... Aug 30 04:24:37 Is anyone familiar with android studio and including local libraries. I am having a really hard time getting a library included into the project? Aug 30 04:25:53 Hi, I'm trying to incorporate GooglePlayServices in my application but as soon as I make my MainActivity implement GooglePlayServicesClient.ConnectionCallbacks,GooglePlayServicesClient.OnConnectionFailedListener I get a "android java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Didn't find class" error. Does anyone have any insight into what I may be doing wrong? Aug 30 04:27:13 foolcool: if you want a project, go grab my Penroser source code and do something cool with it. https://github.com/JesusFreke/Penroser/ ;) Aug 30 04:29:58 you could add some other penroser tilings in addition to the P3. Of course, you'll have to figure out how to generating the tilings for them efficiently. Aug 30 04:30:07 JesusFreke: what's it supposed to be? Aug 30 04:30:24 "Infinite Penrose tiling generator for Android" Aug 30 04:30:29 (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.jf.Penroser) Aug 30 04:30:53 Just one of my old sideprojects, that's been sitting around unloved for a while. Aug 30 04:31:09 It was a fun one though :) Aug 30 04:31:35 interesting, my searches for opencl + ios are not encouraging there Aug 30 04:31:42 i thought they had that Aug 30 04:31:42 and seems like it would be up your alley (re: gpu/cuda) Aug 30 04:32:56 yeah, I'm checking it out now Aug 30 04:33:03 I'm preparing for my monthly shower too Aug 30 04:33:10 mentally preparing that is Aug 30 04:33:11 uh oh Aug 30 04:33:13 sounds dangerous Aug 30 04:33:21 who knows what you'll find! Aug 30 04:33:32 right Aug 30 04:39:26 Hi, does anyone here use Android Studio? I have run into an issue Aug 30 04:43:57 i use AS as textedit++ Aug 30 04:44:23 stick to the very basics, everything works ok :) Aug 30 04:46:31 g00s: okay, well you may be able to help. No worries if you cannot. I'm trying to get Play Services working and have my code implementing GooglePlayServicesClient's ConnectionCallBacks and onConnectionFailedListener. Both of which, when run together or independently, compile but cause my code to crash at start with a " java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Didn't find class" exception. I'm new to android dev so it's very likely I hav Aug 30 04:46:31 screwed up somewhere but I cannot find my problem Aug 30 04:47:11 Algorithm seems maybe the scope of your dependency in gradle then Aug 30 04:47:35 I have compile 'com.google.android.gms:play-services:3.1.36' Aug 30 04:47:36 in the dependencies section of my build.gradle. One thing I've noticed is that under libs I have the support jar but not a play services one Aug 30 04:48:09 g00s: Any suggestions on what to fix the dependency issue? Aug 30 04:48:21 what to do to fix the dependency issue Aug 30 04:48:49 hm, try dependencies { releaseCompile { … your services library } } Aug 30 04:49:10 oh wait, compile should be fine Aug 30 04:49:34 yeah, it is compiling and sending to my phone. It just crashes on launch Aug 30 04:50:27 what class is causing the ClassNotFoundException? Aug 30 04:50:35 MainActivity Aug 30 04:50:39 oh Aug 30 04:51:04 The class declaration is: public class MainActivity extends Activity implements GooglePlayServicesClient.ConnectionCallbacks, GooglePlayServicesClient.OnConnectionFailedListener Aug 30 04:51:42 :( i haven't used play services yet Aug 30 04:52:15 presumably the play services is on the phone, and all of that Aug 30 04:52:33 okay, thanks for the help. I'm tempted to go back to my LocationManager version I wrote the other day. I have just read that this was much easier and more accurate/battery efficient Aug 30 04:53:16 yeah, I also installed the sdk with the sdk manager. Unfortunately the guides on d.android.com don't' cover the sdk/dependency setup Aug 30 04:55:02 did you build using gradle from the command line ? Aug 30 04:55:23 seems like this should be enough: Aug 30 04:55:26 no, I haven't tried that Aug 30 04:55:28 dependencies { Aug 30 04:55:28 compile project(':libproject:google-play-services_lib') Aug 30 04:55:28 } Aug 30 04:55:40 thanks, I'll try with that Aug 30 04:57:35 it gives me a "Project with path ':lib project:google-play-services_lib' could not be found in project ':Tracker'" Aug 30 04:58:02 oh, well that specific invocation would be for a subproject Aug 30 04:58:26 oh, should I put in the main build.gradle? Aug 30 04:58:48 sorry, like I said I'm brand new. But I really appreciate the help! Aug 30 04:58:57 np , i haven't tried this either Aug 30 04:59:12 well - from the sdk manager, i think you can do two things Aug 30 04:59:40 if you check extra/google play services, you'll probably get some jar/aar/apk in your extras folder Aug 30 05:00:00 which then would have to be physically copied into your project, dunno maybe like a libs/ folder Aug 30 05:00:05 but Aug 30 05:00:13 there is also 'google repository' Aug 30 05:00:35 which may have play services in there too - and gradle should pick up the artifact automatically Aug 30 05:01:14 okay thanks, i'll try that. Aug 30 05:01:26 i wish they would just put this shit on maven central or their own repo, having the sdk manager copy repos is fing stupid Aug 30 05:02:11 Algorithm so, if you use 'google repository' your invocation would just look like : compile "com.google.xyx:version" or something Aug 30 05:03:09 get it working from the gradle command line first Aug 30 05:03:29 once that happens, sync the gradle model to intellij Aug 30 05:03:35 I completely agree. and I have that in my build.gradle. It compiles but gives me that error Aug 30 05:03:51 is intellij difficult to setup for android? Aug 30 05:03:58 oh, i meant AS Aug 30 05:05:10 okay. I'll look into compiling from the command line. Aug 30 05:05:30 It seems that if it compiles from AS, it would probably give the same result? Aug 30 05:05:53 honestly , i don't trust AS atm Aug 30 05:06:04 i just use it to edit the source code, syntax highlighting, etc Aug 30 05:06:12 i use gradle from the command line Aug 30 05:06:21 okay, I'll check that out Aug 30 05:09:58 cd .. Aug 30 05:10:10 / Aug 30 05:10:27 Sorry about that. I typed that in the wrong window. Aug 30 05:10:38 we would never have guessed :) Aug 30 05:10:48 at least it wasn't your password Aug 30 05:10:52 * JesusFreke has done that one before Aug 30 05:11:09 Nice! haha Aug 30 05:11:52 when I run ./gradlew packageDebug where should I find the apk? Aug 30 05:12:05 somewhere in build/ Aug 30 05:12:10 I forget where offhand Aug 30 05:12:44 at least, assuming it's the same as what gradle usually uses (I use gradle for a non-android project, but haven't really used it for an android project yet) Aug 30 05:12:58 thanks JesusFreke. I was in the main project Aug 30 05:14:42 g00s: That build didn't have the error… Thanks for the help Aug 30 05:14:53 hm Aug 30 05:14:57 I'm tempted to use Eclipse. I just don't really want to learn the old one right before the new one Aug 30 05:15:11 in AS, sync the gradle build Aug 30 05:15:22 okay Aug 30 05:15:53 in toolbar, little gradle icon with down arrow Aug 30 05:18:00 That worked. Thanks for the help! Aug 30 05:18:16 is that something that I should have been doing every time I edited the build.gradle file? Aug 30 05:19:27 yeah Aug 30 05:19:44 well thank you so much for the help! Aug 30 05:19:50 ;) yw Aug 30 05:20:27 You will likely be seeing a lot of me on here over the next few weeks Aug 30 05:21:25 i'm a beginner with gradle Aug 30 05:22:38 but clearly much further along than me. I have one more question Aug 30 05:23:24 Currently I have database writes in a separate thread. But would it be better to put them in something else? They are added from a service so I don't believe intent services or asynctasks are an option Aug 30 05:28:27 the writes should be in a separate thread, yeah Aug 30 05:28:53 you'll need to clarify 'added from a service' Aug 30 05:30:05 In the version before using Play Services I had a location listener in a thread in a service and wrote to the database upon receiving an update Aug 30 05:30:27 for reading large quantities and sending over the network I created a new thread but wrote to the database in the service's thread Aug 30 05:33:12 ok, so thats the UI thread then. yeah, you should put that in a thread Aug 30 05:33:35 wait, what's the UI thread? Aug 30 05:33:48 the service's thread is the main (ui) threaf Aug 30 05:33:51 *thread Aug 30 05:34:24 oh, I started a new thread in the service. I read that was preferable to a service inside a thread because of the order the OS will terminate processes when it needs resources Aug 30 05:35:43 well, there are a few things that need to be coordinated, the listener callbacks, networking, and db Aug 30 05:35:52 the listener callbacks could probably be on the main thread Aug 30 05:35:59 ah, hmm Aug 30 05:36:08 but the db / networking needs to be off the main thread Aug 30 05:36:08 that's good to know Aug 30 05:36:17 anyone try including viewpagerindicator with android studio. Doing local libraries is kicking my butt Aug 30 05:36:33 i mean, as long as your callback isn't doing anything long on the ui thread :) Aug 30 05:36:39 yeah. should I be spawning a new thread every second to do a database write or passing messages Aug 30 05:36:46 oh no, Aug 30 05:36:51 don't spawn threads every second Aug 30 05:36:58 use something like an Executor Aug 30 05:37:04 I was thinking the callback was running on a separate thread but I guess I was mistaken. It wasn't really time consuming but it's good to know Aug 30 05:37:09 perfect, thank you! Aug 30 05:37:12 I'll look that up Aug 30 05:37:27 you can also use HandlerThread Aug 30 05:37:46 ah, I remember reading about those Aug 30 05:38:30 thanks again for all the help! I'll read over those suggestions and probably see you back on here later Aug 30 05:39:35 :) Aug 30 05:40:52 is anyone in here using Android Studio, or everyone sticking with Eclipse/Intellij Aug 30 05:48:57 boss got idea to change application title bar text so that first half is in one colour, second half in another. Possible? Aug 30 05:52:58 epsilonorion: Android Studio and IntelliJ are the same thing Aug 30 05:53:48 JakeWharton: I do understand that, but I haven't had any luck finding out how to include your ViewPagerIndicator in either case with a project based on gradle. Still playing with it now Aug 30 05:54:23 it needs to be a separate module Aug 30 05:54:40 let me see if someone wrote a guide for ABS before i switched it to Gradle Aug 30 05:54:44 it'll be the same process Aug 30 05:55:28 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17642094/how-to-properly-setup-gradle-in-android-studio-for-actionbarsherlock Aug 30 05:55:35 I found a few that I have tried. Specifically http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCKWIDGULfY and http://changyeopkim.blogspot.com/2013/05/android-studio-intellij-using-android.html Aug 30 05:56:38 I will check that one out. I am setting it up as a separate module, but no joy yet. Aug 30 06:03:13 so if I pull the viewpagerindicator folder directly over, there is a library folder and a sample folder. I know I can simplify, but assuming I stick with this: so in settings.gradle would I need include '..:viewpagerindicator:library' Aug 30 06:05:21 JakeWharton: and then in my build.gradle file it should be compile project (':viewpagerindicator:library') Aug 30 06:22:36 does anything need to be done to notify google that all my apps are compliant to the new "content policy"? Aug 30 06:22:54 is NDK development on windows a humongous pain? Aug 30 06:25:18 perhaps I'd be better off running eclipse in a VM? Aug 30 06:30:29 also, is image processing a good candidate for the NDK? Aug 30 06:30:39 why Aug 30 06:30:41 and no Aug 30 06:30:56 good candidates for ndk are things where you already have code written in c Aug 30 06:31:04 or things where you want to share your code between android and ios Aug 30 06:31:25 http://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/ndk/index.html Aug 30 06:31:35 what should I look into for image processing on android? Aug 30 06:31:51 not sure :P Aug 30 06:31:58 specifically I want to play around with edge detection Aug 30 06:32:13 libjpeg is a C library and there are some wrappers for it in C++ Aug 30 06:32:25 ok then that is a good candidate for ndk Aug 30 06:32:28 because you already have c code :P Aug 30 06:32:41 but it will probably enlarge your app Aug 30 06:32:49 beucase you need at least three copies of the native lib Aug 30 06:32:54 if not four Aug 30 06:32:54 anyway I'm curious to play around with the NDK Aug 30 06:33:05 i finally have a reason! Aug 30 06:33:30 this is just experimentation. I haven't distributed anything yet Aug 30 06:35:14 OpenCV seems to be advancing pretty well on Android Aug 30 06:39:11 canadiancow: Can't you do multiple apks to avoid that? Aug 30 06:39:16 yes Aug 30 06:39:21 but that's also annoying :P Aug 30 06:39:47 Well yeah, but in the interest of keeping download sizes small. Aug 30 06:40:10 Plus multi-resolution apks as well. Aug 30 06:40:29 yeah ive never personally done that Aug 30 06:40:32 but ive heard it discussed Aug 30 06:40:37 especially with the gs4 and htc one being xxhdpi Aug 30 06:41:23 Although I vaguely recall a scaling/DPI option in settings somewhere. Aug 30 06:41:32 So I wonder if that screws up the apk assumptions. Aug 30 06:45:13 Hm. Seems like I have to revise my theory about how GCM push actually works. Aug 30 06:46:20 I have no idea how they pull it off, but every time I push a message (random time delay) from my server to a device, it's usually on the device and replying within seconds. Aug 30 06:46:51 So either my mobile operator network is unusually good, or the whole 15/30 minute heartbeat thing has been changed. Aug 30 06:47:02 ? Aug 30 06:47:19 that 15 minute "heartbeat" as you call it doesnt mean you only get gcm messages every 15 minutes Aug 30 06:48:04 I know, but it means that sometimes networks drops connections and that heartbeat reconnects. Haven't happened to me once the last 16 hours. Maybe networks are improving! Aug 30 07:00:53 I am still not having any luck pulling the ViewPagerIndicator library into my project within Android Studio Aug 30 07:07:40 JakeWharton: Tried many different ways, but still can't seem to get it. Aug 30 07:08:28 Most typical error is that "Could not find method projects() for arguments [:ViewPagerIndicator] on project.." Aug 30 07:08:32 Question: Imagine a App that - on startup - gets (using REST) some Messages .. while the user is messing around in the app the app gets a GCM tickle - new Messages are there! as I need those messages application wide … whats is the best practice to store them? Aug 30 07:16:34 Not sure what you mean by "store them", but your broadcastreceiver can pretty much do anything, like signalling activities and/or stuffing stuff into databases/content providers. Aug 30 07:17:43 Hi. Can I add the following to the AVD? https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?hl=pt-BR#instructions Aug 30 07:24:32 kjeldahl, I mean to store the messages somewhere as they are relevant to any activity Aug 30 07:25:55 jan1337z: Which is why I said content provider. :-) Aug 30 07:28:37 kjeldahl, Isn't that sqlite? Aug 30 07:29:15 I am more about storing objects Aug 30 07:29:21 jan1337z: Can be anything, up to you. It only defines a standard interface and IPC mechanisms. Usually backed by a database yes. Aug 30 07:30:25 jan1337z: Objects live fine in databases. But depending on your access pattern and data size, it may be overkill for your app, but probably not (sqlite is pretty efficient). Aug 30 07:31:07 kjeldahl, okay I continue reading :D Aug 30 07:35:34 kjeldahl, to me it seems I always have to use sqllite for storing … aint that right? Aug 30 07:38:10 jan1337z: It's probably the easiest way to store (semi-)structured data on Android yes. Aug 30 07:38:34 jan1337z another nice library i've been playing with is mvstore, part of H2 Aug 30 07:38:39 thats for k/v Aug 30 07:38:50 hos is it going kjeldahl Aug 30 07:38:58 *how :) Aug 30 07:39:09 Good. GCM works better than I feared! You? Aug 30 07:39:29 oh, just writing a little parser. not much Aug 30 07:40:02 kjeldahl this is pretty cool https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6298642 Aug 30 07:40:06 Yeah, I've got two projects lined up, but require some learning and understanding before I can go ahead. Aug 30 07:40:21 Why I don't like SQL in the first place is because there is only insert all … there is no update the dataset (with one new message) - got me? Aug 30 07:40:23 i dont know haskell, but its nice to see alternative languages get used Aug 30 07:41:46 jan1337z: Sounds like premature optimization... What's your insert/update date anyway? Aug 30 07:41:59 insert/update RATE anwywa? Aug 30 07:42:33 g00s: Sounds great. I've given up on syntax alltogether and am firmly in the scheme/lisp camp. ;-) Aug 30 07:42:57 :) Aug 30 07:43:12 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15277373/sqlite-upsert-update-or-insert Aug 30 07:43:34 What I want to say is that I get ALL my Messages with each REST request … Aug 30 07:43:42 jan1337z i don't get you Aug 30 07:44:17 so you get all your messages, whats the issue with storing those in the db? Aug 30 07:44:18 jan1337z: Now you're confusing stuff. Getting with REST and stuffing into database are two very different things; do not have to be connected at all. Aug 30 07:44:19 If a GCM tickle comes in, I again get ALL messages Aug 30 07:45:21 I don't think its so clean to -> rest request -> delete all old data -> insert new data -> rest request -> delete all old data -> insert new data Aug 30 07:45:50 jan1337z: Put some identifiers in your tickle, and only GET those. Then upsert those. Aug 30 07:45:59 I can't change the REST Interface Aug 30 07:47:13 In my opinion it would be great just to have an ArrayList stored somewhere global and just replace it each time I get new Data Aug 30 07:47:34 (excuse my englisch :D) Aug 30 07:49:03 still don't get me? Aug 30 08:02:10 jan1337z, singleton with arraylist inside? Aug 30 08:02:55 jan1337z: You can store in memory just fine, as long as the amount of data is limited and does not have to be persisted on the device. A content provider can typically use a MatrixCursor or similar for returning "memory stuff" back to apps. Aug 30 08:08:16 kjeldahl i thought i was only a rumor that stalman developed some repetitive wrist injury from emacs; i see it listed as fact on udemy :D Aug 30 08:08:33 haha, oh shit Aug 30 08:09:05 hm... i added tons of textViews to an tableLayout, and added this tab-layout to a scrollview (for having scroll ability). everything works/looks fine, until the items are bigger/more than they fit on the screen => the items offscreen dont get their border drawn. How would i tackle this problem? Aug 30 08:10:04 g00s: I can certainly imagine why. Aug 30 08:10:35 "the creator of Emacs suffered seriously from Repetitive Stress Injury as proof that Emacs’ reliance on Ctrl + combinations of keys forces the user to frequently adopt unnatural hand positions." Aug 30 08:11:04 I switch to mouse left-handed when I feel a tingling sensation... Aug 30 08:11:12 O.O Aug 30 08:11:56 But mostly, I force myself into using keyboard only shortcuts. It's the mousing that gets to my arms.. Aug 30 08:17:34 cyrilmottier i saw your blog post on genymotion and decided to try it out. are you still using it ? Aug 30 08:18:16 g00s: On a daily-basis yes :) Aug 30 08:18:42 It's not perfect of course but do not hesitate to send them your feedbacks. Aug 30 08:19:03 i am trying to get bluetooth working on mac Aug 30 08:19:46 but its nice so far. quick q - how do you know if there is an update to the client piece (player? vm list?) or the vm you downloaded ? Aug 30 08:20:24 for example, i downloaded 1.1.0, but how would i know when 1.2.0 was out - and the api 18 image is experimental Aug 30 08:20:44 so i guess that would get updated also (but i don't know how i would find out, short of always checking) Aug 30 08:24:18 morning guys, design question, where do you usually put code for sqlite db access, in activities or in fragments? Aug 30 08:26:23 heh, "about:debug" in the default android browswer is pretty handy Aug 30 08:26:32 None of them, but if you have to, probably in the activity. Aug 30 08:27:20 kjeldahl, where would be a good place then? A service? Aug 30 08:29:04 g00s: it prompts Aug 30 08:29:12 anyone awake? Aug 30 08:29:18 ubersoldat: It depends on when and where your content should be available. But a content provider is a common (although crappy IMHO) abstraction. If it's for internal use (your app) only, at least stuff it into model classes that theoretically could be called from both activities and fragments when needed. Aug 30 08:30:35 JakeWharton ah good to know, thanks Aug 30 08:33:39 can i somehow detect if an widget is offscren? Aug 30 08:33:51 currently i am redrawing every widget which is quite ressource hungry :P Aug 30 08:34:12 kjeldahl, thanks Aug 30 08:39:26 question: this is my first android app. When I install an app, I can install a service (without interface) and a separate app (with an interface) separately? Aug 30 08:43:38 zquad: No, with a p value of 0.4. Aug 30 08:44:39 what do you mean p value of 0.4? Aug 30 08:47:04 kjeldahl: It means I'm not very certain, I'm no authority on the subject. :-) Aug 30 08:47:44 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-value but I probably used it wrongly ;-) Aug 30 09:06:48 <^cheeky> hello Android World :) Aug 30 09:12:16 morning all Aug 30 09:15:01 zquad: your application can have a component that is a long-running service and interfaces that interract with it Aug 30 09:16:29 I need to define a drawable to be an empty box with a divider at the bottom, is that possible? Aug 30 09:16:40 Ankhwatcher: Thanks so the service can run in the background consuming the web service independently of the user viewing the results from the webservice?? Aug 30 09:16:49 yes Aug 30 09:17:57 Ankhwatcher, 9.png Aug 30 09:18:16 ubersoldat: ah, nice one Aug 30 09:18:42 http://android-ui-utils.googlecode.com/hg/asset-studio/dist/nine-patches.html Aug 30 09:19:53 Ankhwatcher, you can create a small png file with borders, transparent content and tell 9patch to expand the transparent area Aug 30 09:26:12 hey guys Aug 30 09:26:40 while using the adb push command how do I specify the path to the local file? Aug 30 09:26:41 shadej: yo Aug 30 09:28:34 Ankhwatcher: ? Aug 30 09:28:41 adb push Aug 30 09:28:48 yeah, Aug 30 09:29:21 when specifying the local path am i going to use relative or absolute path Aug 30 09:30:02 shadej: I think you can use either Aug 30 09:31:39 Ankhwatcher: have you ever used it? Aug 30 09:32:05 shadej: I vaguely remember using it while rooting a phone, but I don't think it was recently Aug 30 09:32:22 I think with the root instructions it was pushing from within the folder Aug 30 09:35:25 Ankhwatcher: no once you get into the adb shell ..it becomes hard to specify path because there are devices the emulator and your computer how to differentiate them? Aug 30 09:35:48 how does one use a list with simple_list_item_2? Aug 30 09:38:09 any one familiar with adb push command? Aug 30 09:44:07 can i list the files of my computer from with in the adb shell? Aug 30 09:46:24 ls Aug 30 09:47:25 Ankhwatcher: ls will list the files in the emulator Aug 30 09:47:58 shadej: you ls from outside adb shell for your computer then adb shell ls for the device Aug 30 09:47:58 shadej: why don't you just try pushing something through and see where it shows up Aug 30 09:48:53 perfinion: Ankhwatcher I am specifying the correct path to my file but it says file not found Aug 30 09:49:09 shadej: what command are you trying to run? Aug 30 09:49:12 and from where? Aug 30 09:49:55 perfinion: adb push /home/ubuntuhx/Desktop/ADT /mnt/sdcard/ Aug 30 09:50:20 perfinion: being on the root of the emulator Aug 30 09:50:35 shadej: you dont adb push from inside the emulator Aug 30 09:50:50 exit fist to your normal computer commandline Aug 30 09:50:52 then run it Aug 30 09:51:01 perfinion: oh Aug 30 09:51:07 adb shell is if you want to get a shell on the device Aug 30 09:51:23 there is no adb executable on the device Aug 30 09:51:36 also isnt the path just /sdcard/ ? Aug 30 09:51:52 ie without the /mnt in front Aug 30 09:53:00 perfinion: I dont know i was trying that too Aug 30 09:53:09 perfinion: but now it worked thank you Aug 30 09:53:20 shadej: great :) Aug 30 10:00:12 can anyone point me to a good tutorial about using simple_list_item_2(or a valid alternative) with a recent API? (and possibly Lists/ArrayLists) Aug 30 10:06:12 How can I convert ARGB to Hex color codes (#FFFFFF)? Aug 30 10:06:44 Hex color codes are ARGB… just in hex Aug 30 10:06:57 why do you have to do that anyway? Aug 30 10:07:36 Because I have a Category class with a Colors enum. And they are on hex. So.. for comparing both Aug 30 10:10:32 storing numbers in hex strings is just plain wrong Aug 30 10:10:43 but as I said Aug 30 10:11:02 hex strings are just sequence of hex numbers which you can convert to get ARGB Aug 30 10:15:32 So it is better to store them as ints Aug 30 10:17:03 yes, because that's how OS works with them Aug 30 10:17:34 8 hex digits == 32-bit unsigned int Aug 30 10:17:37 the hex strings are actually the ints :) Aug 30 10:17:42 in string format Aug 30 10:18:26 I'm still not getting this 9 patch thing Aug 30 10:18:58 here is my 9 patch: http://picpaste.com/oChcpGZe.png Aug 30 10:20:35 So if I do ((ColorDrawable) radiobutton.getBackground()).getColor(); if my color is 16759603, I will get 16759603? Aug 30 10:24:28 Hi all, somebody ever used the SIP API ? Aug 30 10:31:26 Why does this: RadioGroup group = (RadioGroup) view.findViewById(R.id.radiogroup); Aug 30 10:31:26 final RadioButton selected = (RadioButton) view.findViewById(group.getCheckedRadioButtonId()); return null? Aug 30 10:31:43 yay, I got my 9 patch working Aug 30 10:34:33 zyngawow: What do you mean? http://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/RadioGroup.html#getCheckedRadioButtonId() says it returns an int, and null isn't one. Aug 30 10:34:57 kjeldahl, the view.findViewById(blahblah) Aug 30 10:34:58 zyngawow: Ah, scratch that. Aug 30 10:35:20 zyngawow: For the hell of it, check that the id returned is -1 (not found). Aug 30 10:35:33 checking Aug 30 10:35:52 -1 meaning no radio button is selected. Aug 30 10:36:55 2131296262 Aug 30 10:37:39 I'll try cleaning Aug 30 10:37:58 Good idea; it's finding _something_. Aug 30 10:39:49 is there any equivalent field to the html file browse field? Aug 30 10:41:41 afternoons Aug 30 10:44:50 brx_: good afternoon Aug 30 10:48:20 This is weird. I do setBackgroundColor(11167436) and it appears as white Aug 30 10:51:00 Ok... If I do ColorDrawable#. Aug 30 10:51:28 ColorDrawable#getColor() I get -3407872 when the color is 13369344 Aug 30 10:52:51 zyngawow: 11167436 is 0xAA66CC Aug 30 10:53:00 what you might forget is that its actually 0x00AA66cc Aug 30 10:53:08 so you have 0% opacity for your color Aug 30 10:53:14 ah! Aug 30 10:53:25 so (a) just use hex colors and not decimal Aug 30 10:53:54 okay there is no (b) :) Aug 30 10:53:59 Yes there is Aug 30 10:54:05 Manually add the 00 Aug 30 10:54:17 just use hex colors, then you won't get confused by Two's complement Aug 30 10:54:32 you want FF there Aug 30 10:54:39 you actually want 0xFFAA66CC Aug 30 10:56:24 what should be something around -2141873869 if i am not wrong Aug 30 10:56:37 and since that is just not recognizeable at all anymore what it means, use 0xFFAA66cc :) Aug 30 10:56:40 4289357516 Aug 30 10:57:01 no Aug 30 10:57:10 thats why i say use hex do't get conffused by two's complement Aug 30 10:57:23 ColorDrawable#getColor returns an int Aug 30 10:57:23 since it begins with an F it should be a negative number Aug 30 10:58:56 but again: use hex colors and you won't have the problem, to calculate what number it will be :) Aug 30 10:58:59 timroes, so how do I compare the int I get from ColorDrawable#getColor to 0xFFAA66CC? Aug 30 10:59:06 with ==? Aug 30 10:59:26