**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 30 02:59:58 2013 Sep 30 03:13:55 eclipse build hell day 2 Sep 30 03:16:37 anyone use android studio? i am trying to find a list of the highlighting colors that it uses. i've got several lines partially highlighted in bright yellow, but don't know what that means Sep 30 03:17:05 mouse over it tells you Sep 30 03:19:06 i get a yellow light bulb that gives options such as "remove braces fro if statement" and there's no if statement Sep 30 03:19:42 run the code inspector Sep 30 03:22:55 those lines don't come up. they're all like this: op1.setVisibility(View.INVISIBLE); and it highlits setVisi Sep 30 03:40:13 that's odd, i wonder if it's caching previously bad lines? tried restarting it ? Sep 30 03:48:12 I am getting a NullPointerException in my view handling scroll after I call removeView(). It seems ViewGroup.dispatchDraw throws it as one of the child is null now. Sep 30 03:59:01 hi guys, what framework do you use for automated UAT in android? Sep 30 04:10:10 oy, so tired, I didn't electrocute myself, so that's a good thing, heh Sep 30 04:10:28 need to run a couple new circuits someday, too Sep 30 04:19:25 <^cheeky> oh man he left !!! :( Sep 30 04:19:51 <^cheeky> this it Worked ...!!!!!!!!! Sep 30 04:20:24 <^cheeky> if i could setup a futureTask Sep 30 04:23:15 hello, how can one have a listview item selected only when it is held? Sep 30 04:24:50 onItemLongClickListener ? Sep 30 04:25:05 <^cheeky> OHHH that held // Sep 30 04:25:48 well, onItemLongClickListener is called like once and not while right? Sep 30 04:26:12 I want the list item to be highlighted while it is being pressed Sep 30 04:26:54 <^cheeky> oh ... wait i think i read that you might have to do that on the Contextmenu handler something Sep 30 04:26:59 <^cheeky> hold on lemme look Sep 30 04:27:03 thanks Sep 30 04:29:19 <^cheeky> listView.setMultiChoiceModeListener(new AbsListView.MultiChoiceModeListener() ... Sep 30 04:29:59 <^cheeky> but hey i really suck With droid && stuff but perhaps this might have been what you were talk about Sep 30 04:30:16 thanks cheeky, I'll check that out Sep 30 04:30:45 <^cheeky> oh no problem . ... hope that works Sep 30 04:30:51 <^cheeky> crap i dont want to sleep !!!! Sep 30 04:31:26 <^cheeky> btw... put my app on my phone and then after scrolling the gridView .. i got a bug Report .. :/ Sep 30 04:31:29 <^cheeky> :( Sep 30 04:33:02 haven't worked with gridviews at all, might as well trace through the logcat Sep 30 04:33:25 Could not find BaseGameUtils.apk Sep 30 04:33:40 k... its right f'n there. Sep 30 04:33:41 <^cheeky> oh i can get the bug report through logCat Sep 30 04:33:42 <^cheeky> nice Sep 30 04:35:06 omg cheeky MAX_NOOB Sep 30 04:35:19 <^cheeky> yes sir!! Sep 30 04:35:41 <^cheeky> i have the properties of Tofu thou... :) Sep 30 04:36:02 <^cheeky> i thought only if it stops working completely Sep 30 04:36:18 <^cheeky> lol Sep 30 04:40:51 i dunno how to reason with this contraption Sep 30 04:42:15 con*trap*tion best single word description of my first 1.5 days experience with google play services sdk Sep 30 04:42:40 aww what's wrong with it ? Sep 30 04:43:32 im not a big expert in having multiple projects in single eclipse workspace reference each other, but theoretically it wouldnt be that difficult Sep 30 04:43:48 oh... eclipse ... enough said Sep 30 04:44:11 what else should i use? ant only? Sep 30 04:44:25 IJ :) Sep 30 04:45:08 IntelliJ? Sep 30 04:45:19 <^cheeky> Android Studio Ftw :P Sep 30 04:45:31 AS is rubbish Sep 30 04:46:59 bankai_ dislike AS proper, gradle, or both? Sep 30 04:47:27 <^cheeky> shows how much i know , but so far me likey likey Sep 30 04:47:53 i tried it when it first came out, didn't work properly and i haven't given it the time since. IJ works well. I honestly don't see the 'point' of gradle Sep 30 04:49:26 i don't push it very hard, but its been fine for me since a few weeks ago Sep 30 04:50:35 the first attempt was, not positive ;) Sep 30 04:51:34 actually, with AS, gradle, genymotion, and minSdk=15 or so, android is "almost" fun again ;) Sep 30 04:53:20 but i've just figured out eclipse :D Sep 30 04:53:22 :{ Sep 30 04:53:54 i liked eclipse, but not the ADT Sep 30 04:53:57 eclipse is pretty retarded but doesnt mean whatever alternative isnt equally Sep 30 05:00:53 i have to admit, i like the Darcula theme ;) Sep 30 05:01:58 i don't understand teh appeal with that theme, i've heard lots of people say that Sep 30 05:02:59 bankai_ hm, i use Regular by day, Darcula at night. i hate staring into a lightbulb (white screen) after sunset Sep 30 05:03:17 i had an eclipse plugin that was 'mostly dark Sep 30 05:03:30 but it didn't do all the panes, and some of the UI elements were messed up Sep 30 05:03:41 all my terminals 'n' stuff is black on white, i guess i'm uased to it. the pure dark makes me tired Sep 30 05:07:35 hi android experts... need some direction from u guys... if I install android NDK... and i already have an eclipse environment setup with ADT... do i still need to reconfigure to use NDK i downloaded ? Sep 30 05:07:46 or NDK is just separate for C development ? Sep 30 05:08:00 portValue[0] = (byte)(portValue[0] | (0x01 & 0xFF) << (op-1)); how do i get it to translate 8 to 10000000 ? i'm having some issues with 127 limit Sep 30 05:17:17 hello mates Sep 30 05:17:21 i have a quick question Sep 30 05:17:48 i have captured a screenshot using glReadPixels and then created a Bitmap from it Sep 30 05:18:21 I want to send an intent to share that bitmap, but notice that the putExtra method that takes a Parcelable Uri in the sample code Sep 30 05:18:32 and Bitmap implements Parcelable as well Sep 30 05:18:44 so can I send the intent a Bitmap object right away? Sep 30 05:19:10 as in, place the Bitmap object within the putExtra(EXTRA_STREAM,...) Sep 30 05:21:24 anyone here? :( Sep 30 05:26:49 also, is there like a more ndk oriented channel? Sep 30 05:28:42 limbiccodemonkey: ndk is for what ? Sep 30 05:28:54 native development kit? Sep 30 05:28:56 is it for C development ? Sep 30 05:28:59 aye Sep 30 05:29:01 ok Sep 30 05:29:15 im just trying to setup cocos2dx...asked me to install ndk Sep 30 05:29:48 since i already set up everything... just curious if i still need to reconfigure my eclipse for ndk Sep 30 05:30:08 guess its just specifically for native development purposes Sep 30 05:30:50 so… anyone got anything on the Bitmap Parcelable stuff? Sep 30 05:31:09 hm maybe i add the bin/lib.apk as 3rd party jar as well as project dependency Sep 30 05:31:34 insanity... or genius? Sep 30 05:32:10 the apk size has increased! Sep 30 05:34:56 s/project dependency/project reference/ Sep 30 05:55:31 got my game running... now derived from com.google.example.games.basegameutils.BaseGameActivity! Sep 30 05:55:57 the impossible has been render simultaneously possible and accomplished Sep 30 06:21:05 hey. so to have logging go to logcat i have to set android:debuggable to true in the manifest right Sep 30 06:21:09 is there anything else i have to do? Sep 30 06:27:06 * ^cheeky fails Sep 30 06:30:15 gatt.readCharacteristic(readChar) has a callback method in BluetoothGattCallback called onCharacteristicRead . that callback method never gets entered. i don't know how to debug / fix it. Sep 30 06:36:27 jnewt you're convincing me i should probably wait a bit until ble is more fully baked Sep 30 06:37:16 i got a previous ADT in my ecplise.. and downloaded the latest NDK... do u think building my project can cause it to crash because of some incompatibility... just cant get my cocos2dx to launch properly Sep 30 06:37:25 g00s: i'm not sure that there is anything missing, but the learning curve is quite steep for me. This is my first round with android, let alone BLE Sep 30 06:37:43 g00s: I was able to get everything dark in eclipse including the UI, but it was a lot of searching and work, and now I don't remember how Sep 30 06:38:02 jnewt: android development environment pretty much suxs Sep 30 06:38:22 jnewt i've heard other people have problems with ble Sep 30 06:39:11 quite frankly, this is one of those areas iOS is 12-24 months ahead of android Sep 30 06:39:13 g00s: i think many tried it prior to 4.3 and had lots of issues. Sep 30 06:39:56 no, i'm talking 4.3 official support Sep 30 06:40:05 not the crappy oem specific apis from moto or sammy Sep 30 06:40:06 moto and samsung have proprietary drivers and libraries. luckily i'm using a nexus with 4.3, so i think it's all there, I just suck at java. Sep 30 06:40:27 g00s: oh, well you negated my answer prior to my giving it Sep 30 06:41:36 i think i just don't know how to use this callback properly. i start the read, and then expect the callback. i never get it and have no idea what to do. Sep 30 06:42:42 good mornings Sep 30 06:43:37 <^cheeky> morning :) Sep 30 06:44:39 i mean even if i botched the read call, you'd think i'd still get the callback with the status flag just being something other than success Sep 30 06:55:37 g00s: yes, I looked at OCaml, but so far only briefly Sep 30 06:55:41 if i open up BluetoothGatt.java from the Android API 18 Platform Library there are several 'Cannot resolve symbol errors'. should i have also included the google api 18? and does the java sdk version 1.7.0_25 vs 1.7.0_40 matter? Sep 30 06:56:02 afk Sep 30 06:56:04 p_l what did you think ? Sep 30 06:58:27 <^cheeky> this is somme fun !!!!!!!!!! Sep 30 06:59:02 I have a serious problem .. I always get this error: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Didn't find class "android.support.v4.widget.DrawerLayout" on path: Sep 30 06:59:14 and the app crashes Sep 30 07:45:37 i have 640x960 splash but for some reason it is rotating it the wrong way Sep 30 07:45:43 i wonder if i shuold have 960x640 Sep 30 07:49:21 get rid of the splash, problem solved ! Sep 30 07:50:46 <^cheeky> g00s: Niice :) Sep 30 07:51:09 when i use getVal on a BLE characteristic, it just returns the value that was read the last time readCharacteristic was called right? Sep 30 07:59:30 Goodmorning boys and girls, I have a weird thing I hope you can help. I set for a linearlayout background color to "#f8f8f8", but on my LG P9 it shows white. While on my HTC Sensation it shows the correct color. What could be the reason that one device can't show the right color and how to deal with such a problem? Thank you. Sep 30 08:06:24 i have a custom fling method to my custom scrollview - however the fling method doesnt work properly when i have scaled the image. http://pastebin.com/PVz1zt9N Sep 30 08:09:55 fragment manager Sep 30 08:09:59 oh how i hate thee Sep 30 08:10:24 mainly cause i dont understand why my fragment's targetFragment dissappears from it Sep 30 08:12:14 probably better to use some kinds of message bus Sep 30 08:12:43 well, i take that back. maybe target fragment really fits Sep 30 08:13:34 Hello guys, I have a weird thing I hope you can help. I set for a linearlayout background color to "#f8f8f8", but on my LG P9 it shows white. While on my HTC Sensation it shows the correct color. What could be the reason that one device can't show the right color and how to deal with such a problem? Sorry for asking it the second time. Sep 30 08:13:49 the problem sounds like "fragmentation" :) Sep 30 08:13:50 i am in a fragment and starting the other fragment to return data to my original fragment Sep 30 08:14:16 ok Sep 30 08:14:23 as for as i know that is the pattern to use Sep 30 08:14:36 i do a .repalce().addToBackStack().commit() Sep 30 08:14:39 lemonxah, you can keep the data in the main activity, while switching fragments. Sep 30 08:14:46 and it works fine .. till the second screen rotate Sep 30 08:15:10 Number5, that is an anti pattern isn't it? i dont want to make my fragments rely on an activity Sep 30 08:15:16 they should be self contained Sep 30 08:15:23 so that i can reuse them where ever i want Sep 30 08:15:36 without having to remember to implement activity code Sep 30 08:16:12 lemonxah, but what has data to do with it. You could also get data from a database or from a network. Sep 30 08:16:29 its a multi user selector Sep 30 08:16:50 it asks the contacts fragment to do a multi selection and then return the contacts to it Sep 30 08:17:07 contacts fragment has a mode that handles that Sep 30 08:17:16 no code duplication in my codebase at all Sep 30 08:17:25 I understand you want to stick to the right pattern, but maybe for now it's more important to get the job done and than see how to improve it. Sep 30 08:18:04 no cause if we dont fix this now the company will never go back and fix it Sep 30 08:18:11 i dont believe in make it work and fix it later Sep 30 08:18:27 out of experience they never give us time to fix it cause its working** Sep 30 08:18:47 lemonxah, I believe in get it work now and improve it later (in a more professional manner). Sep 30 08:19:16 lemonxah, as long as they don't complain, don't fix ;-) Sep 30 08:19:50 i dont believe in bad code Sep 30 08:19:53 My experience is, get the job done, and than give them updates, they like updates Sep 30 08:20:10 updates should never include bad code fixes Sep 30 08:20:20 only bug fixes that you didn't konw about and new features Sep 30 08:20:54 lemonxah: you can drop fragments and stay clean ;) Sep 30 08:20:56 i cant knowingly add bad code to the app .. i wont sleep at night Sep 30 08:21:06 It's not about bad codes, I assume you have decent skills to program the most of it well. But there are situations you need a quick fix to get the job done. Sep 30 08:21:11 heya Sep 30 08:21:29 Otherwise you'll never end. Sep 30 08:21:35 very rarely do i want to do a quick fix if that means breaking a pattern Sep 30 08:22:06 Well, I wish you good luck ;-) Sep 30 08:22:12 beware the destruction of perfectionism Sep 30 08:22:17 you cant half-ass a pattern .. whats the point of using design patterns if it depends on situational use Sep 30 08:23:02 I really need to learn design patterns Sep 30 08:24:11 thnx Number5 .. but it shouldn't be too hard i just need to understand how the fragment manager manages backstack and how to keep the targetFragment inside the fragment manager when doing a .replace Sep 30 08:25:23 lemonxah, you're welcome. It's going to be more fun when you want Fragments for older versions like 2.x and you want also be able to switch from portrait mode to landscape mode. Sep 30 08:25:47 number5 that is allready in place with the supportFragmentManager Sep 30 08:25:57 we are supporting 2.2 < Sep 30 08:26:09 Great and what about screen orientation? Sep 30 08:26:15 also work Sep 30 08:26:17 s** Sep 30 08:26:42 ok, well, than you understand the concept very well Sep 30 08:26:45 only instance where its not working not even on new devices(which tells me i am doing it wrong) Sep 30 08:26:47 nothing to say about it Sep 30 08:26:48 lemonxah: does your shmoooz, that works if there is external config changes and the onConfigurationChanged(Configuration newConfig) does not get called Sep 30 08:27:58 i have looked into that Sep 30 08:30:24 https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/resources/runtime-changes.html#HandlingTheChange Sep 30 08:30:39 " This technique should be considered a last resort" Sep 30 08:32:39 hello again everyone Sep 30 08:32:53 all i really want to do is keep the fragment in the fragment manager even after a .replace Sep 30 08:33:28 anyone know why this would work: Sep 30 08:33:29 jclass bitmap_config_class = loadExternalClass("android/graphics/Bitmap$Config"); Sep 30 08:33:35 but this wont Sep 30 08:33:36 jclass bitmap_compress_format_class = loadExternalClass("android/graphics/Bitmap$CompressFormat"); Sep 30 08:35:41 lemonxah: how bout this ... http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14184182/why-wont-fragment-retain-state-when-screen-is-rotated Sep 30 08:36:03 lemonxah, detatch().add().commit() ?? Sep 30 08:37:16 alex_PP, that looks ok let me try that Sep 30 08:37:56 shmoooz, that is not my issue thnx though :) already solved that issue months ago Sep 30 08:38:54 alex_PP, thnx that has helped me a little bit Sep 30 08:39:30 it seems on the rotate the current fragment puts the fragment that is in the setTargetFragment into the fragmentmanager again Sep 30 08:39:39 and at this point it fails now cause i have manually added it Sep 30 08:40:04 ah nevermind, solved it Sep 30 08:40:05 so now i just need to figure out why on a second rotate it fails to re-add the getTargetFragment to the fragmentmanager Sep 30 08:40:06 thnx anyways Sep 30 08:48:51 just reflash my nexus7, like a boss Sep 30 08:49:19 meaning i followed some random instructions and did NOT brick my device Sep 30 08:51:14 cut and paste boss? Sep 30 08:51:15 :) Sep 30 08:56:49 <^cheeky> lemonxah: i do alot of cut && paste :( Sep 30 08:57:03 its ok we all start somewhere Sep 30 08:57:15 lol Sep 30 08:57:17 <^cheeky> heh Sep 30 08:57:24 * lemonxah hides his cut and paste scripts Sep 30 09:02:08 <^cheeky> heh Sep 30 09:22:43 What version of the android support library do I need to add an actionbar to android 2.1+ ? Sep 30 09:22:55 v13 v7 or v4? Sep 30 09:23:04 i think v7 Sep 30 09:23:34 The android support library page changelog says that v4 has been updated most recently that's why I'm confused Sep 30 09:24:35 nvm v4 is for api level 4 or later Sep 30 09:24:38 found it Sep 30 09:31:13 Bas_, its v4 but rev 18 Sep 30 09:33:35 lemonxah: ah okay thanks Sep 30 09:33:39 whoops Sep 30 09:34:39 Bas_: you need v7 appcompat library Sep 30 09:36:07 hi guys... how do i add files into the asset folder ? i just added Resource folder into the project but it doesnt appear in asset folder. any ideas ? Sep 30 09:36:21 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18271429/difference-between-android-support-v7-appcompat-and-android-support-v4 Sep 30 09:36:37 I added the library and followed the instructions on the docs page but I get an exception when initialising Sep 30 09:36:52 ok ... i guess there is an asset folder Sep 30 09:37:07 09-30 09:34:52.576: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(287): java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError Sep 30 09:37:09 at android.support.v7.app.ActionBarActivityDelegate.createDelegate(ActionBarActivityDelegate.java:51) Sep 30 09:37:25 axilaris, are you using the gradle folder layout if so src/main/java is your java code and sr/main/assets will be where it is Sep 30 09:37:42 axilaris: Refresh the folder in you IDE Sep 30 09:37:47 Bas_, you need v4 rev 18 and v7_AppCompat Sep 30 09:37:57 lemonxah: ok i didnt know asset folder exists... i thought adding a multimedia file automatically inserts into asset folder... Sep 30 09:37:59 I added both libs Sep 30 09:38:00 the v7_AppCompat only adds AppCompat that is all it adds Sep 30 09:38:07 just looking at some cocos2dx example Sep 30 09:38:16 V4 was next to the v7 appcompat in the v7 folder so I added both Sep 30 09:38:30 so everything have to be duplicated just for android Sep 30 09:38:54 is it possible to access multimedia files outside the asset folders ? Sep 30 09:40:36 has anyone knows where to find sample code to decode h264 bitstream using MediaCodec API? Current I have only found decoding from file. I'm facing great difficulty right now =( Sep 30 09:43:06 Bas_: check your actionbar references, you may be referencing the API11 actionbar somewhere, not the AppCompat one Sep 30 09:43:29 import android.support.v7.app.ActionBarActivity; Sep 30 09:43:52 Bas_, there are 2 v7 libs Sep 30 09:43:57 there is the normal v& Sep 30 09:44:04 V&? Sep 30 09:44:05 and there is the v7_AppCompat Sep 30 09:44:09 v7** Sep 30 09:44:15 I'm using V& appcompat Sep 30 09:44:18 v7* Sep 30 09:44:19 Bas_: search in the log what exactly 'caused' the exception Sep 30 09:44:30 the actionbaractivity Sep 30 09:44:33 1 sec Sep 30 09:45:12 http://pastebin.com/LHF1YFsJ Sep 30 09:46:00 Bas_: also, how did you added the libs? Sep 30 09:46:24 through the same way I always add libs in intelij Sep 30 09:46:27 http://pastebin.com/Sqxme8AN Sep 30 09:46:27 are you aware of the special procedure of those libs with resources? not just copying the jars Sep 30 09:46:53 I need to import extra resources? Sep 30 09:47:01 hmmm Sep 30 09:48:12 are you using Android Studio? Sep 30 09:48:24 I'm using intelij Sep 30 09:49:37 http://developer.android.com/tools/support-library/setup.html <-- Search for Adding libraries with resources, there're the procedures with Eclipse and Android Studio, not sure which one will apply for intelij Sep 30 09:50:08 ill have a look Sep 30 09:50:13 brb Sep 30 09:53:55 how is it done with intent extras?If i start an activity and pass an extra, i can get this extra via intent.getExtra(). If i then start the next activity and there press the back button, is the extra null or does it have the same value as when the activity was started the last time? Sep 30 09:55:01 so if i check for an intent extra at the start of an activity, can it be empty if the activity is start by coming back from another (that sends no intent extra)? Sep 30 09:57:44 i hope this is understandable Sep 30 10:04:52 <^cheeky> skullcrasher: hi hi, umm from the lil i know about droidSpeak, there are different type, of Intents you can send, now like if you want the value or anything you passed it to the other activity , you then expecting a code back. so then you use StartIntentForActivityResult() and then get the value or what desired... i am not sure if this is what your question refers to Sep 30 10:14:19 hey ^cheeky, not rly. It's more like that.I have an activity that starts another and passes an extra. the started activity has a search widget. if the search action is start i intercept the intent an put the extra string from the previous activity to it, then start the searchable activity. the searchable activity gets the intent extra (searchoption) and does the search. if i now go back to the activity with the wid Sep 30 10:14:40 if not, at the search action would given a wrong/no extra to the searchable instead Sep 30 10:29:06 com.google.example.games.basegameutils.GameHelper::onStart sabotages me... freezes + burns me Sep 30 10:29:54 if i call it.. suddenly i dont seem to get touch events... altho my touchlistener is a different class Sep 30 10:38:15 ah found the error nice Sep 30 10:50:22 hey. once I have android booted, how do I check if it's jbmr1, jbmr2 or the regular jellybean? Sep 30 10:54:01 Back Sep 30 10:54:30 I added the resources etc but I still get an exception when my activity extends actionbaractivity Sep 30 10:54:39 even though that's what the docs say I should do Sep 30 11:25:32 For some reason it's still complaining Sep 30 11:25:43 java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: android.support.v7.appcompat.R$styleable Sep 30 11:25:54 But R.syleable exists :/ Sep 30 11:33:59 um... did you add the resources to your own app, or did you add the library properly? Sep 30 11:38:18 guys, if I'm developing an app for API 14 (ICS) minimum, do I also need to set ldpi layout? I only set xhdpi and tablet (7'') Sep 30 11:47:00 bah.. has anyone seen import issues with the latest android studio? Sep 30 11:48:08 hi everyone, im having problems with an ArrayAdapter object, concretaly, loading an String array from database (driver jdbc). The ArrayAdapter is loaded next the try catch with the connection... any idea? Sep 30 11:54:02 is there a way to add a support fragment to a xml layout file? Sep 30 11:54:07 cause fragm Sep 30 11:54:32 fragment = android.app.fragment and that cannot be cast to support.v4.app.fragment Sep 30 11:54:45 and android.support.v4.app.Fragment cannot be cast to View Sep 30 11:55:39 lemonxah: should work Sep 30 11:55:50 oh ok thnx Sep 30 11:56:01 just fragment refers to 11+ fragments Sep 30 11:56:07 The following classes could not be found: Sep 30 11:56:07 -�support.v4.app.fragment Sep 30 11:56:24 do i need a new namespace? Sep 30 11:56:35 android.support.v4.app.fragment mabye Sep 30 11:56:41 whatever the full path to it is Sep 30 11:56:41 tried that too Sep 30 11:56:44 same result Sep 30 11:57:43 hi everyone, im having problems with an ArrayAdapter object, concretaly, loading an String array from database (driver jdbc). The ArrayAdapter is loaded next the try catch with the connection... any idea? Sep 30 11:57:53 lemonxah: my bad, now that i htikn about it you can't Sep 30 11:58:08 yeah :/ Sep 30 11:58:13 simplest way is to do it through code otherwise big mess Sep 30 11:58:20 minSdkVersion=14 my friend Sep 30 11:58:24 things get a lot simpler Sep 30 11:58:27 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14949698/how-to-add-an-android-fragment-to-an-activity Sep 30 12:03:00 how do i start debugging exported apk in eclipse? Sep 30 12:11:37 Anyone had problems to make connection with jdbc driver over android? The log: W/System.err: com.mysql.jdbc.exceptions.jdbc4.MySQLNonTransientConnectionException: Could not create connection to database server. Thanks Sep 30 12:15:59 Are you trying to connect to a remote database directly? Sep 30 12:16:13 Is there no API in between the DB and the android application? Sep 30 12:22:10 yes Sep 30 12:22:15 sonOfRa Sep 30 12:22:26 directly Sep 30 12:22:50 that is almost always a bad idea Sep 30 12:24:04 then what can i do? Another solution? Sep 30 12:24:06 hello everyone! Sep 30 12:24:13 Create an API that handles these things Sep 30 12:24:28 if you have the mysql DB password embedded in your application, anyone can do what they please Sep 30 12:24:30 I need some experience feedback regarding ListView usage Sep 30 12:25:40 I know that we can use an empty view that will be displayed when there is no data in the adaper. This View means "there is no data". But I always would like to have some kind of view showing only a progress saying "loading datas". Sep 30 12:25:52 if possible, i would like to avoid using a Dialog Sep 30 12:26:20 what do you think about using 2 Adapters? One for the data and another one only for the wait view. Then I can switch the adapters only? Sep 30 12:29:55 sonOfRa, another thing created yet? Sep 30 12:30:19 I don't understand the question. Sep 30 12:30:46 Usually, if you want your android application to talk to a remote database, you'd have some kind of web-service (usually REST), that talks to the database Sep 30 12:31:08 that way you can handle authentication with your REST service, and have better control over what data can be accessed/modified by a single client Sep 30 12:31:46 and most importantly get better behaviour Sep 30 12:35:06 i see Sep 30 12:35:50 any advice to use a web service? Sep 30 12:36:35 and why doesn't work with direct connection Sep 30 12:40:24 to make phones charge faster, why dont we put more batteries in them? Sep 30 12:40:26 database protocols aren't appropriate for use over high-latency, low-reliability, insecure channels Sep 30 13:27:30 why can't I setup an avd with api 14 ? http://i.imgur.com/ubV3blU.png Sep 30 13:30:18 try restarting? do you have two version sof the sdk? Sep 30 13:30:41 just one Sep 30 13:34:15 reboot worked Sep 30 13:35:16 <^cheeky_> ell00 ell00 Sep 30 13:35:32 https://plus.google.com/u/0/116031914637788986927/posts/LLspEu5Knwf Sep 30 13:38:20 mikedg: you've a strange surname :D Sep 30 13:38:36 <^cheeky> blaah Sep 30 13:38:42 <^cheeky> i need sleep again !!! Sep 30 13:44:44 grdc: you've got a strange ircname Sep 30 13:46:29 gdrc: in fact you missed it :P Sep 30 13:47:56 exactly Sep 30 13:47:59 so weird i cant even type it Sep 30 13:48:08 from now on I will call you Molly Sep 30 13:55:07 hello Sep 30 13:55:25 what IDE shoudl I use? is android studio the ultimate on windows? or should I use xamarin, or should I use the command-line + vim Sep 30 13:56:29 if you're used to cli+vim, use that Sep 30 13:57:00 beaky: android studio Sep 30 13:57:02 maybe i am missing out on some powerful featureset that is exclusive to eclpse or android stuido Sep 30 13:59:50 beaky: android studio. use it. it's good. Sep 30 14:00:32 eclipse Sep 30 14:01:21 android studio is based on jetbrains, so it must be good Sep 30 14:01:33 s/jetbrains/intellij/ Sep 30 14:09:07 * Zharf uses plain old IDEA Sep 30 14:09:32 android studio is too in flux Sep 30 14:09:36 use it if you have time to waste Sep 30 14:09:42 at least IDEA has a good vim plugin, unlike eclipse ;) Sep 30 14:10:33 Can anyone help me fix the memory leak in this code? Sep 30 14:10:47 pastebin.com/h3TE9g5z Sep 30 14:11:10 please add http:// to your links in the future Sep 30 14:11:16 http://pastebin.com/h3TE9g5z Sep 30 14:13:16 Zharf found anything in it? I'm not sure why the memory use keeps increasing Sep 30 14:13:18 yeah i use 13 EAP Sep 30 14:14:16 The retry() method is called till the file is downloaded Sep 30 14:15:53 i am, as ive said in here before, a custom scrollview. I have the dragging and pinching nearly sorted - however, i am trying to get the pinching to work so that it actually scales from the middle of two points. This is somewhat working, but only in a selected area of my image, upper left corner. Any ideas to how i can solve this ? Sep 30 14:16:13 javanoob, it seems weird Sep 30 14:16:39 Zharf the formatting? Or logic? Sep 30 14:16:42 Does anyone have paid applications into Play Store? Sep 30 14:16:46 both Sep 30 14:17:10 My country (Greece) is not listed in the supported for merchant countries. What options do I have? Sep 30 14:17:25 Can you suggest a better way? Sep 30 14:17:52 I couldn't find out why memory use is increasing Sep 30 14:19:29 sorry I'm too tired Sep 30 14:20:02 hakermania: send your cod to me Sep 30 14:20:04 ill publish Sep 30 14:20:10 i give you 30/70 cut Sep 30 14:20:40 mikedg, hahaha. Google already eats 30%. Sep 30 14:21:43 but youll get your name out there Sep 30 14:21:46 thats more important Sep 30 14:21:55 if you save up you can come to america! Sep 30 14:21:57 and self publish Sep 30 14:22:35 like my great grand parents! Sep 30 14:23:01 mikedg, I am wondering if opening a bank account to a bank of the listed countries can be done. What you're talking about it theft. Sep 30 14:23:06 is theft* Sep 30 14:23:13 how is it theft Sep 30 14:23:35 mikedg, You keeping 30% for publishing my app? What the heck? Sep 30 14:23:45 im providing a service Sep 30 14:24:02 in the days before downloads, that would be considered a top notch bargain Sep 30 14:25:01 think about it Sep 30 14:25:02 services are theft! Sep 30 14:25:08 you want to make money, i want to make money Sep 30 14:25:15 you are making apps right now btu not making money Sep 30 14:25:18 mikedg, Nope. I will get 70% of my app. Nothing less. Sep 30 14:25:50 i can be your publisher and you can get small percent, you can be your publisher and you get 0%, or you can start cooking meth Sep 30 14:25:57 there's a huge market for meth now Sep 30 14:26:19 throw some food colouring in it, make it blue Sep 30 14:26:33 kroot, ping Sep 30 14:27:40 pong Sep 30 14:28:05 So, anyone else who has attempted being a merchant from an unsupported country ? Sep 30 14:39:42 helo Sep 30 14:39:51 how do i become a better programer Sep 30 14:40:05 write programs Sep 30 14:40:10 practice :P Sep 30 14:40:15 google can answer that for you Sep 30 14:40:17 i write programs but they all suck Sep 30 14:40:19 magic Sep 30 14:40:20 and i still suck Sep 30 14:40:27 you haven't written enough Sep 30 14:40:35 to master something, you need 10s of thousands of hours of practice Sep 30 14:40:39 I doubt you've spent that Sep 30 14:42:51 yes ive only started programing last year Sep 30 14:43:00 so i need.... 10 more years? Sep 30 14:43:20 anyone http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18618067/how-set-textview-text-both-clickable-and-selectable ? Sep 30 14:46:08 I started writing useful programs after 10 years of on-and-off writing crap ;) Sep 30 14:46:20 wasn't very active about it Sep 30 14:46:53 should i use xml or json Sep 30 14:47:01 for what Sep 30 14:47:16 for android Sep 30 14:47:26 iformation interchange Sep 30 14:48:20 i still don't write useful programs Sep 30 14:48:34 i plan to write something good right before I retire Sep 30 14:48:47 and then get sucked into maintaining it Sep 30 14:49:02 mikedg, better wait for someone to write something good and jump in to get the 30% Sep 30 14:49:20 hakermania: thats what ive been trying to do Sep 30 14:49:41 mikedg, yeah, and everyone will trust you. Immediately :) Sep 30 14:50:01 im the most turtleworthy person in this room Sep 30 14:50:41 mikedg, at turtle for you http://bit.ly/1bmfqqF Sep 30 14:51:00 thank you Sep 30 14:51:49 an app a day keeps the doctor away ;) Sep 30 14:52:38 does GCM require that the sending server have an entry for every single android device that will receive its message? Sep 30 14:53:52 i.e. if i wanted to broadcast scores for a game, ideally the app would just register to listen to the messages for the game, and my server would tell GCM to send the latest scores to all devices that are registered for some shared game specific key Sep 30 14:54:25 rather than the app connecting to my server and me having to tell gcm to send the latest score to each device individually Sep 30 15:03:30 broadcasting scores isn't a good use of gcm Sep 30 15:03:38 scheduled polling is better Sep 30 15:04:14