**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 03 02:59:58 2013 Oct 03 03:00:23 so if I want to extend the vertical scrolling range so that the top line isn't cut off, I have to reimplement the exact same thing except use a different value in the Math.min call Oct 03 03:01:25 I don't get why the TextView scrolling doesn't behave like scrolling in urxvt or Konsole in the first place Oct 03 03:19:35 if im rockin a listview w/a viewholder.. whats hte best way in the viewholder onClick to do stuff in items outside of it? Oct 03 03:21:46 acidjazz, items outside of it? Oct 03 03:22:27 outside the listview? Oct 03 03:22:49 no items outside of hte listviews clicklistener Oct 03 03:23:01 like lets say each my items plays a diff song jeppy Oct 03 03:23:16 i have a play/stop button.. i want all items of hte listview besides whats in the handler to switch to play Oct 03 03:23:22 click on and item and play a song? Oct 03 03:23:24 and in my handler that one switches to stop Oct 03 03:23:28 yea Oct 03 03:23:58 playing many sounds at once? Oct 03 03:24:07 only one row plays a sound Oct 03 03:24:13 lol Oct 03 03:24:19 you're losing me Oct 03 03:24:19 so all other rows buttons need to siwtch to "play" Oct 03 03:24:24 ok all the buttons say jeppy Oct 03 03:24:26 hi Oct 03 03:24:28 you click one button it says kevin Oct 03 03:24:42 all the other buttons go back to jepppy.. only "kevin" is shown on the clicked button Oct 03 03:24:53 like a checklist .. but only one item can be checked Oct 03 03:25:03 Have a function in the activity/fragment implement it Oct 03 03:25:07 anyone know the best apporach for displaying a scrollable map interface that displays gps location from a server? Oct 03 03:25:21 what .. resetButtons()? Oct 03 03:25:22 keep a list of the views Oct 03 03:25:29 im using a viewholder Oct 03 03:25:43 and pass the id of the one that is different Oct 03 03:25:50 how about just functionality to change all items in a views button to certain text Oct 03 03:26:06 so Activity A calls an Intent for Activity B... Activity B calls finish()... A.onResume() will be called, right? Oct 03 03:26:42 it should Oct 03 03:26:55 not sure in the case of a dialog activity Oct 03 03:27:34 unless A was finished during B's reign as supreme ruler Oct 03 03:27:53 hmm.. im overriding getVIew.. Oct 03 03:28:30 acidjazz I don't think your issue is related to the listview or viewholder Oct 03 03:29:21 There is an array somewhere containing the views you want to change right (and maybe those you don't want to change) Oct 03 03:29:52 in the viewholder.. sorta... Oct 03 03:29:54 or the backing data for the views Oct 03 03:30:01 paste a link Oct 03 03:30:05 im using a customadapter to override getView.. then a viewholder to cache the elements Oct 03 03:30:12 your descriptions aren't very helpful Oct 03 03:30:21 https://gist.github.com/acidjazz/19626fdca11c90f19554 Oct 03 03:30:39 theres my adapter to the arrayadapter Oct 03 03:31:04 https://gist.github.com/acidjazz/c5c7e281c5ef07830b7a theres my viewholder Oct 03 03:31:25 what's a playstoplistener? Oct 03 03:31:28 maybe i can loop through the viewholder... Oct 03 03:31:44 my onClickLIstener for the buttons Oct 03 03:32:10 it right now just plays the song onside onClick() Oct 03 03:33:19 what exactly are you trying to reach in each holder? Oct 03 03:33:30 the imagebutton? Oct 03 03:33:35 the seekbar.. and i want to hide it Oct 03 03:33:41 i only want to show the seekbar for the song playing Oct 03 03:33:53 so seekbar.setVisibiltiy(View.GONE); or something Oct 03 03:34:15 but that isn't tied to a specific listview entry, it gets recycle Oct 03 03:34:18 d Oct 03 03:34:32 in getView right? Oct 03 03:34:39 right good point Oct 03 03:34:48 maybe set a boolean for playing or some sort of state integer Oct 03 03:34:59 itd have to be for each row Oct 03 03:35:06 oh in the holder? Oct 03 03:35:15 hmm isPlaying.. Oct 03 03:35:18 do you use notifyDatasetChanged or whatever? Oct 03 03:35:25 negatory Oct 03 03:36:59 oh Oct 03 03:38:01 you could loop through the holders and change visibility of each, no? Oct 03 03:38:01 well this is functionality thatll have to run through the views.. Oct 03 03:38:08 thats what im thinking Oct 03 03:38:37 The children of the listview are the holders (i think) Oct 03 03:38:50 well kinda Oct 03 03:39:09 how do i looop through SongsViewHolder Oct 03 03:39:39 you loop through the listview's children Oct 03 03:40:26 when i define the listview? or w/in my adapter? Oct 03 03:40:38 but that might lead to the songs off screen not hiding their slider, and seeing that when scrolling Oct 03 03:41:25 google listview visible views Oct 03 03:41:33 yea getView runs on those when they re-appear Oct 03 03:41:38 so i just need to refresh em Oct 03 03:41:41 thats problem B Oct 03 03:41:47 A is looping first Oct 03 03:42:10 huh? Oct 03 03:42:37 for (int i = 0; i < listview.getCount(); i++) { Oct 03 03:42:38 A is looping first, what's A (and B for that matter) Oct 03 03:43:11 it might be listview.getChildCount or getChildViews or something like that Oct 03 03:43:42 use google. there are posts on SO about this Oct 03 03:44:37 jeppy: https://gist.github.com/acidjazz/370f6e1f12a352e0764e Oct 03 03:44:54 long shot Oct 03 03:45:37 Yeah it is Oct 03 03:46:07 You should think of your problem outside the context of views maybe. Oct 03 03:47:20 use the position or id field from getView Oct 03 03:47:29 as an index Oct 03 03:47:41 in your backing array of data Oct 03 03:48:22 you keep track of the position that is playing Oct 03 03:48:35 if not that position, hide it. Oct 03 03:49:06 (when getting the view) Oct 03 03:49:08 yea thatll probably be faster Oct 03 03:49:58 oh snap i did it Oct 03 03:50:08 that was fast Oct 03 03:50:34 jeppy: https://gist.github.com/acidjazz/4b0afe115455a127677d Oct 03 03:50:43 had to add a findviewbyid after getchild Oct 03 03:50:46 but no this is still not ideal Oct 03 03:52:17 yeah you're getting bogged down in the views way of thinking about it instead of simpler data types, but still it works and the extra time it takes is not likely noticable Oct 03 03:53:42 well if this list gets long.. it will be Oct 03 03:53:51 also want to asyncroload this at some point Oct 03 03:54:22 your only looping through a handful of views no matter how large the list Oct 03 03:55:30 in fact your doing about the best way possible i believe Oct 03 03:55:47 in the onclick() anyways Oct 03 04:27:05 Can anyone point me to an app that uses SlidingPaneLayout? Oct 03 04:27:15 I'm deciding whether its worth it to use, I'm mostly unsure haha Oct 03 04:32:37 oh is that what that's called? i thought that was just a hacked up viewpager Oct 03 04:35:53 bankai_: It is in fact not a view pager Oct 03 04:35:58 it keeps both pages in memory always Oct 03 05:25:28 I've written an opengl appliation for ios in C/C++.. will I have any problems using the generic OGL parts of it with the NDK? (downloading it now) Oct 03 05:26:39 maybe Oct 03 05:28:00 seems like a safe answer. any predictions on what may bite me? reading the docs, it seems like writing straight to native code may be a better option than using JNI Oct 03 05:28:15 but I may be eltting my laothing of java get int he way of the best decisions Oct 03 05:38:25 native is fine xaxxon Oct 03 05:38:34 just need JNI for the set up etc Oct 03 05:38:41 then you game engine can take over Oct 03 05:38:41 hrmm... Oct 03 05:39:02 if you need speed etc C++ is best Oct 03 05:39:20 is it a game? Oct 03 05:39:45 yeah Oct 03 05:39:58 y9ou could just port it to SDL2 Oct 03 05:39:59 well, sort of. it's not "fun" yet, per se Oct 03 05:40:05 and use that on all OSes Oct 03 05:40:26 I'm trying to learn the low level stuff, so I want to figure this out for myself, but it's a good suggestion Oct 03 05:40:34 k Oct 03 05:40:50 Im more intertesed in businesses etc Oct 03 05:40:55 but if you just want to learn :) Oct 03 05:50:47 thebunny actually, that may be the direction I go -- most of my code so far is orthoganal to what sdl does Oct 03 05:50:54 I had forgotten about sdl Oct 03 05:51:36 SDL2 is out now Oct 03 05:51:43 and works on ios, andorid etc Oct 03 05:51:54 supports shaders and a lot of drawing itself now Oct 03 06:01:09 what kind of crazy arithmetic does gridLayout use :/ it looks like it doesn't size the views according to the column/row spans i give it (which would've been very nice) Oct 03 06:06:53 <^cheeky> this is crappy feeling, when you realize galaxy nexus only supports 16mb and your app with single digit Ks in images have a heap size of 40 mb ~ :( Oct 03 06:07:03 <^cheeky> heh Oct 03 06:07:10 <^cheeky> fun Oct 03 06:07:45 <^cheeky> not right now, but so much to implement Oct 03 06:08:58 hi Oct 03 06:10:00 it seems it inserts into sqlite3 successfully in code, but nothing is returned from "select * from table" from command line. any reason? Oct 03 06:14:14 morning peeps Oct 03 06:16:08 <^cheeky> lemonxah: morning morning Oct 03 06:54:52 How can I get the script from a Locale object on Android? Oct 03 06:54:57 I see that this is missing Oct 03 06:55:07 wheres in the Java SE Locale class is present!! Oct 03 07:03:24 How do I get a custom control to show up in the Eclipse layout editor? Oct 03 07:03:32 I'm using a custom control and the Eclipse says that I should use if (isInEditMode()) {...} to remove a warning. I did this and I just did a return in the if statement. Oct 03 07:03:52 but now the custom control isn't shown at all. Oct 03 07:05:14 the custom control is "public class DragSortListView extends ListView" ... so I would be happy to see a ListView in the layout editor with it's list of items displayed. Oct 03 07:06:00 Huh. I supoose all sensible people would be asleep right now. Unless people in Pacific/Asia are here? Oct 03 07:06:40 roadfish: try #eclipse Oct 03 07:07:49 shmoooz: Ok, worth a shot. But isn't the XML layout editor a 100% Android kind-of-thing? Oct 03 07:08:18 no idea Oct 03 07:08:46 might be used elsewhere possibly Oct 03 07:09:06 actually, I tried on other thing. I put a setVisibility(View.VISIBLE) in the true-clause on the if-statement. Oct 03 07:09:40 Right now I'm googling on isInEditMode to see how people are using this in custom controls. Oct 03 07:21:03 How can I make the different between two locales on Android? When the users has the system language Chinese Simplified or Chinese Traditional? They both seem to only give the language code as "zho" Oct 03 07:34:45 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19153384/how-to-get-the-script-from-a-locale-object-on-android Oct 03 07:39:14 how how can I fire up the calendar and do menu->search in it with an intent? Oct 03 07:43:01 Do TextView.setText method convert its arguement to a string in the process of setting the text? Oct 03 08:22:24 Hi, I created a little widget and it works fine. Now I want my activity to be launchable my other apps, for example llama. However my app is not listed in "Apps". What does it need for an Activity to be listed in the Apps list? Oct 03 08:24:48 Needs to have an main intent in the launcher category, if I remember right. Oct 03 08:25:38 Great, I will look that up Oct 03 08:31:09 hi folks! Oct 03 08:32:07 I want to hide my ListView by setting its Visibility to GONE. But when I do it, it automatically shows the empty view, and I would like to hide it also. Do you have any idea how to do it? Oct 03 08:32:30 I think there is some internal mechanism in the ListView that shows the empty view when the listView is GONE Oct 03 08:40:41 if i have a function that takes byte[], how do i just send it a constant value (1 byte, 1 value). like foo(1) ? Oct 03 08:41:29 foo('1') Oct 03 08:41:38 "" is string, '' is char/byte/int Oct 03 08:42:03 oh, misread that Oct 03 08:42:15 "string".getBytes() works Oct 03 08:42:57 is there anyway to use hex? Oct 03 08:43:12 like foo(0xff)? the signed byte is killing me on this project. Oct 03 08:43:14 nope, number constants are integers Oct 03 08:43:22 you can cast (bute)0xff Oct 03 08:43:25 does anyone here use maven? I've inherited a project that does and I can't stand it. Oct 03 08:43:38 I'm looking for a decent tutorial that explains how to use it effectively. Oct 03 08:43:45 deebo: but then i've still got byte and not byte[] Oct 03 08:44:24 margle: so don't use maven, then. convert it to ant or whatever. Oct 03 08:45:38 margle sonatype used to have a free book Oct 03 08:46:01 jnewt: you can just create a new byte[1] and set the first element to your value. Oct 03 08:46:05 pragma-: that's a strategy… Oct 03 08:46:13 g00s: I'll have a look Oct 03 08:46:14 http://www.sonatype.com/resources/books Oct 03 08:46:35 i haven't used mvn in a while; but yeah its defacto standard in most of java land Oct 03 08:46:54 ant adoption is tanking, i think pragma- is the only one using it Oct 03 08:47:00 hi g00s o/ Oct 03 08:47:04 hey hackkitten Oct 03 08:47:30 jnewt: so foo({(byte)0xff}) Oct 03 08:48:14 deebo: that doesn't work, cannot resolve method foo(?) Oct 03 08:48:33 Array initilizer not allowed here Oct 03 08:49:08 good morning - i am using a canvas to scale an image. However i noticed that it does not contain pre-post methods Oct 03 08:49:26 would these method calls both be set? canvas.translate((focusX + translateX), (focusY + translateY)); , canvas.scale(curZoom, curZoom); Oct 03 08:49:31 jnewt: byte[] foo = new byte[] { 0xff }; and pass that to the function. Oct 03 08:49:42 or should i somehow use a matrix in order to get both pre-post scale/translate Oct 03 08:49:44 pragma: yeah, that's what I have now. Oct 03 08:51:28 jnewt: or you could just: function(new byte[] { 0xff }); Oct 03 08:54:17 g00s: what are the alternatives? Oct 03 08:54:36 margle alternative books? Oct 03 08:54:43 g00s: alternatives to mvn and ant? Oct 03 08:54:52 you mentioned that pragma- is probably the only guy using ant Oct 03 08:55:09 if it ain't broke... Oct 03 08:55:57 margle if mvn has working plugins for your situation, its pretty good. if you need to write plugins or have buggy ones, then it starts to suck Oct 03 08:56:26 for /android/ well, google has said they are going to give up on their ant shit and use gradle so Oct 03 08:57:04 so you can use maven with the android plugin, or gradle, or the legacy ant stuff Oct 03 08:57:23 the maven android plugin is not from google, so ymmv but it seems popular Oct 03 08:57:37 lots of people use it and work on it Oct 03 08:57:55 not sure if it supports aar format yet Oct 03 08:58:17 ok Oct 03 08:58:18 thanks Oct 03 08:58:24 i use gradle, even though its kinda meh Oct 03 08:58:39 just because, its where google is putting their energy Oct 03 08:58:52 i like using official / supported stuff Oct 03 08:59:03 dont feel like band-aiding some bs together for my build system Oct 03 08:59:40 <[A3G1S]> Hey guys Oct 03 09:00:09 <[A3G1S]> I am not able to execute this, Runtime.getRuntime().exec("/system/bin/screencap -p /sdcard/sp.png", null, null); Oct 03 09:00:36 [A3G1S]: noted. Oct 03 09:00:54 <[A3G1S]> My app is signed with system certs Oct 03 09:01:02 <[A3G1S]> and i am running it as a system app Oct 03 09:01:14 <[A3G1S]> all required permissions are already there Oct 03 09:01:37 <[A3G1S]> The thing is I am not even getting any errors Oct 03 09:05:35 * Eltjo vindt dat Sparrow wel er veel notificaties stuurt Oct 03 09:05:51 g00s: that makes sense… do you use android studio b/c that just seemed terrible to me. Oct 03 09:06:05 command-line or bust. Oct 03 09:06:09 margle i use AS, and when it pisses me off i go to vim ;) Oct 03 09:06:20 which is like, every day, heh Oct 03 09:06:31 pragma-: how would i set the MSB in a byte? have this: myByte[0]= (byte)(myByte[0] | (0x01 << bit)); for different bits, but when bit is 7, i get -128 or something due to the range of a byte Oct 03 09:07:46 heheehe Oct 03 09:09:14 the android tooling story is kinda weird. you have the ant stuff, which they said they won't work on any more. then you have eclipse / adt, which doesn't support gradle - supposedly still being worked on - but not moving anywhere fast - then intellij, which works OK, then AS which is a preview, and all the crap you expect from a preview Oct 03 09:17:58 jnewt: val |= (1<<7) is indeed how you set it. you get a negative value because that's how two's complement works. Oct 03 09:19:46 jnewt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two%27s_complement Oct 03 09:44:28 when creating a custom viewGroup can i somehow remove the requirement to specify a layout_width and height for the child views Oct 03 09:45:34 is d.android.com down ? Oct 03 09:45:51 well, now it worked, woah Oct 03 09:57:13 any idea why i get incompatible types in a thread while declearing a var with String[] projection = {MediaStore.Images.Media._ID, MediaStore.Images.Media.DATA};? Oct 03 10:11:27 because you didn't read the error message correctly? Oct 03 10:12:10 figured it out already.. tried to start the service within the decleration of the thread.. new Thread( {....} ).start) which was not working as excepted Oct 03 10:13:36 i am using a canvas to scale an image. However i noticed that it does not contain pre-post methods Oct 03 10:13:40 would these method calls both be set? canvas.translate((focusX + translateX), (focusY + translateY)); , canvas.scale(curZoom, curZoom); Oct 03 10:13:45 or should i somehow use a matrix in order to get both pre-post scale/translate Oct 03 10:15:23 pragma-, software was fine. had a short on my circuit board. thanks. Oct 03 10:26:25 Is there a way to prevent a ViewPager from loading the first pages? I currently set the adapter then setCurrentItem, but it still tries to load the first 1-3 pages I don't want it to Oct 03 10:35:03 <[A3G1S]> Is there a bug in ndk ? I created an app with android.uid.system and it is not able to read frame buffer or write to sdcard... Oct 03 10:35:10 <[A3G1S]> can any 1 help me with this ? Oct 03 10:40:08 Hi Oct 03 10:40:22 I harmed my Galaxy S4. Oct 03 10:41:00 I mean I installed SuperSU and added busybox and some stuff. It was fine but because of triangles I couldn't update Oct 03 10:41:56 Then I used Triangles Away and it worked! But after Samsung Update it says I have modified software. I don't have root anymore and Hard Reset doesn't help Oct 03 10:42:00 What is wrong? Oct 03 10:42:56 Do I have to root it again and wipe triangles away? It is a dead circle. Oct 03 10:44:01 karab44 try #android-root, this is the wrong channel (see topic) Oct 03 10:46:26 nice Oct 03 10:46:41 okay by the way Oct 03 10:46:53 Do I need root to develop applications? Oct 03 10:47:22 Is it somehow helpful in any way? Oct 03 10:49:17 Do you guys root your phones to develop apps? Oct 03 10:49:43 i do as matter or principle Oct 03 10:49:47 of Oct 03 10:53:23 no, you do not need root to develop apps Oct 03 10:54:25 for one, you expose yourself to more security risks Oct 03 10:55:07 if its mishandled Oct 03 10:55:37 karab44 http://betanews.com/2013/10/01/5-reasons-not-to-root-android/ Oct 03 10:56:03 the google devs aren't using rooted phones (although they don't have user builds) Oct 03 10:56:38 can you suggest a good book for Android app development? Oct 03 10:56:47 hi guys Oct 03 10:57:21 does anyone know how to set adt bundle to create a heap dump as soon as 'out of memory' exception occurs ? Oct 03 10:57:54 or if it's even possible to do that ? Oct 03 10:58:06 should have the newest features, especially fragments, and lots of examples Oct 03 10:59:15 in eclipse it's possible to add a flag to the VM command line arguments field, but i can't find it on adt Oct 03 10:59:44 thanks in advance Oct 03 11:02:09 * Nilium has a vague idea of why he's spending his time writing a VM but is pretty sure it will never be put to use and will never be faster than just using a scripting language Oct 03 11:05:32 Is there a way to make for example a application_settings.xml in /res/values/ and get that by R.application_settings. Oct 03 11:06:23 I have way too many language-specific strings in normal file, so trying to put server urls in its own file Oct 03 11:07:32 Nilium what are you doing O.o Oct 03 11:07:55 Onack: So what you want is a file that's not language-specific and has string resources? Oct 03 11:08:04 g00s: Writing a VM for fun. Oct 03 11:08:22 Was pondering embedding it in my app, but realized there are some levels of insanity I just shouldn't touch. Oct 03 11:09:07 Nilium: true Oct 03 11:09:27 Plus it's implemented using C++11 and doing NDK stuff would be a world of pain. Oct 03 11:09:40 Not even sure if I can compile for C++11 using the NDK right now. Oct 03 11:10:08 I should write a lisp-like thing that compiles down to VM assembly. Oct 03 11:10:34 The fun part is I can just add instructions willy-nilly if I want something. Oct 03 11:11:33 make sure to implement the load-money instruction Oct 03 11:12:49 I need to get the bytecode execution bit up and running again so I can actually see how much worse I made performance Oct 03 11:14:20 I found this: http://damianflannery.wordpress.com/2011/06/06/alternative-to-strings-xml-for-storing-settings-values-in-android/ But it seems to not work with R... Oct 03 11:14:36 " g00s: Writing a VM for fun." Interesting ! :D Oct 03 11:14:52 I think most people just do that every so often. Oct 03 11:15:45 most? I doubt it. I want to do it but I think I need to read a little bit more about the subject. I would start a very shitty vm xD Oct 03 11:16:31 Anyone know how reliable postDelayed is ? Oct 03 11:16:49 If you want to do it, then I can guarantee most people want to do it. Oct 03 11:17:18 Most programmers will at some point try to write a VM just 'cause they can. Oct 03 11:17:36 Yup, thats true, like the ones that write an os Oct 03 11:17:51 but everyone wants, not so much do Oct 03 11:18:36 Onack: I think the closest you can get is to add a prefix each resource in the file, then accessing the options through R.string.* or R.bool.* or whatever you need. Oct 03 11:20:25 Nilium: You can Oct 03 11:20:25 but wouldnt that be in the same file? Oct 03 11:20:32 Nilium: NDK has Clang 3.2 and GCC 4.8 Oct 03 11:20:41 C++11 rock and roll! Oct 03 11:20:57 err Clang 3.3 Oct 03 11:21:03 ah nevermind, see what you mean Oct 03 11:21:04 and Clang 3.2 Oct 03 11:21:05 thanks Oct 03 11:23:39 Oh, we've got clang now? Oct 03 11:23:43 Praise be to the gods Oct 03 11:43:53 can anyone explain what the difference is between Canvas.Translate() and Canvas.Skew() ? Oct 03 11:44:15 the documentation is identical Oct 03 11:45:55 troloyolo, well one skews the canvas and the other translates the image? Oct 03 11:46:05 those are different operations. Oct 03 11:46:49 Mavrik - i doubt i know what the methods actually does then - could you explain skew for me please ? Oct 03 11:49:22 troloyolo, this is a skewed image: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_C5a2qH8Y_jk/TEUci0Db5CI/AAAAAAAAAhs/LmPEOFbvhuk/s1600/AndroidBitmap_04.png Oct 03 11:49:42 or this: http://keith-hair.net/blog/examples/matrix/skew_diagram.gif Oct 03 11:49:43 Mavrik - okay great, thanks Oct 03 11:49:57 not the method im in need of then :) Oct 03 11:51:05 Hello again :) Oct 03 11:51:50 in a Master Design flow template how can i add icons to the list on the left hand side ? Oct 03 11:55:32 is this something that can be done easily ? Oct 03 12:13:22 im having the same problem as this person http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17514787/add-icon-to-list-in-master-detail-flow Oct 03 12:15:22 ok, this is driving me crazy Oct 03 12:15:29 I'm in the eclipse android IDE Oct 03 12:15:44 and I can't find the option to open the activity layout in the graphical layout editor Oct 03 12:15:51 dbl click goes to the xml editor Oct 03 12:16:00 its a tab at the bottom of the editor view Oct 03 12:16:08 and when I right click and choose "open with" there is not graphical layout editor Oct 03 12:16:15 a damn Oct 03 12:16:19 !!! Oct 03 12:16:20 thanks :D Oct 03 12:16:25 hahah no probs Oct 03 12:16:40 20min looking for that damn thing Oct 03 12:16:50 lol Oct 03 12:17:22 while we're at it... did anyone try to change the shortcut to switch between tabs? Oct 03 12:17:27 CTRL+TAB does something weird Oct 03 12:17:42 and when I changed the shortcuts in the settings pane it didn't seem to have any effect Oct 03 12:18:26 in the window/navigation menu the shortcuts listed are CTRL+F6 Oct 03 12:18:36 but I can't find where to change that Oct 03 12:19:16 a, nvm Oct 03 12:19:17 now i did Oct 03 12:19:45 maybe I should try to find out why my KDE freezes at startup Oct 03 12:19:48 now that I'm on a roll Oct 03 12:21:06 lol Oct 03 12:21:29 meh i cant find help anywhere Oct 03 12:22:14 Zylinx: help on what? Oct 03 12:22:23 oh the icon thing? Oct 03 12:22:30 yeah Oct 03 12:22:38 oh, this is just like that xkcd comic Oct 03 12:22:56 Zylinx: http://xkcd.com/979/ Oct 03 12:22:58 haha yes i know which one u are talking about Oct 03 12:23:05 hahahah Oct 03 12:23:07 love that one Oct 03 12:23:35 "who are you Edalol? what did you see? Oct 03 12:35:06 is it possible getting two scroll indicators on a scrollview ? vertically and horizontally ? Oct 03 12:43:10 can I have a custom constructor on an anonymous class? Oct 03 12:43:15 for a clicklistener Oct 03 12:43:51 like new OnClickListener(this) { ... } Oct 03 12:44:21 I think the VM would now actually work for scripting. Oct 03 12:44:27 Go me. Oct 03 12:44:43 nvm, apparently I can't do that Oct 03 12:57:46 is it possible getting two scroll indicators on a scrollview ? vertically and horizontally ? Oct 03 12:57:57 i simply cant get both functioning at once Oct 03 13:00:02 im having the same problem as this person http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17514787/add-icon-to-list-in-master-detail-flow can anyone give some suggestions ? Oct 03 13:08:09 Anybody :( ? Oct 03 13:09:57 Zylinx: maybe bump that question up? Oct 03 13:10:07 write a comment or something Oct 03 13:12:45 but the xml file is a so I don't know how to edit it. Oct 03 13:12:50 what is a "so" Oct 03 13:13:04 it is a what? Oct 03 13:13:31 oh, it is "as so" Oct 03 13:13:36 yeah Oct 03 13:13:56 you don't know how to edit an xml file? Double click that bad boy. Oct 03 13:14:05 do you have any questions, if so feel welcome to ask Oct 03 13:14:28 "the xml is like this, I mean just look at it... I don't know how to edit that" Oct 03 13:14:55 nseidm1: I don't think Zylinx's problem is editing the xml Oct 03 13:15:14 hence the inquiry, what questions does Zylinx have Oct 03 13:18:06 nseidm1, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17514787/add-icon-to-list-in-master-detail-flow Oct 03 13:18:15 is it possible to share data between multiple users using google-cloud ? Oct 03 13:18:16 is it possible to save a part of the back history? What I want to do is an app, where at one point you reach an activity from which you navigate something that also has a back history... if I use activities for that I get back for free, but I want to preserve this sub-history in case the user presses up, then quits the app, then starts it again... Oct 03 13:18:22 What's the best approach here? Oct 03 13:18:34 Zylinx: that's a little ambiguous Oct 03 13:19:02 Zylinx: the ONLY question in that post is "I don't know how to edit it." Oct 03 13:19:07 you want to know how to edit an xml file? Oct 03 13:19:14 Do you have questions about fragments in xml? Oct 03 13:19:23 do you have questions about ListView? Oct 03 13:19:36 I notice setListAdapter, do you have questions about ListFragment? Oct 03 13:19:50 I have a question, do you have any questions? :-) Oct 03 13:20:18 in a Master Design flow template how can i add icons to the list on the left hand side, that is my question Oct 03 13:20:19 Is it feasible to store a part of the back history, or should I roll my own, where it's just one activity that changes its content onBackPressed according to the history I managed myself? Oct 03 13:20:30 i have no idea which files to edit Oct 03 13:20:45 but if you point me to the right file i can figure out how to edit ti Oct 03 13:20:57 Zylinx I think there's a good Google IO video about exactly that. Oct 03 13:21:14 Zylinx: create a ListView, make a custom BaseAdapter, override getView with an xml that has an image on the left hand side. Use a ViewHolder pattern to lazily load the images into the ImageView. Oct 03 13:21:43 The xml in the StackOverflow post is NOT the "layout" shown in the top code snippet Oct 03 13:22:06 that would be interesting to use fragments as a listItem Oct 03 13:22:46 much easier to use a View as a listItem than a fragment Oct 03 13:22:57 if you want to scroll fragments use a ViewPager instead Oct 03 13:52:03 Hi, anyone familiar with canvas? I'm trying to write some vertical text, but I can't figure out a way to undo the canvas.rotate() call. I tried getMatrix+setMatrix, I just can't draw anything after I call setMatrix. Why isn't it working? Oct 03 13:55:26 to undo a rotate, I do canvas.save() / canvas.rotate() ..... / canvas.restore() Oct 03 13:58:00 Madak, Magic! Thanks Oct 03 13:58:26 np cool ! Oct 03 13:59:16 When I saw the matrix functions I didn't look any further. Too much OpenGL I guess Oct 03 14:07:39 hmmm Oct 03 14:09:28 can anyone explain what canvas.translate actually does ? Oct 03 14:09:35 im a bit confused on that one i think Oct 03 14:09:53 moves. Oct 03 14:12:37 Mavrik - can you help me with getting the last part of my custom scrollview functioning? Oct 03 14:12:38 http://pastebin.com/dGwwh4f5 Oct 03 14:13:05 is opengl required to create a nice looking 2d game with smooth movement and hardware composing of translucent layers? Oct 03 14:13:07 whenever i pinch zoom, the actual view gets messed up boundaries - Oct 03 14:13:43 i'm wondering if i need to create this 2d game using opengl just to get the benefit of GPU acceleration Oct 03 14:16:09 helo, it's probably a good idea yes Oct 03 14:16:13 drawing to surfaceview is fast Oct 03 14:16:36 but if you implement effects as OGL shaders the game will be significantly faster still Oct 03 14:18:05 Mavrik - any idea on how to solve my messed up bounds ? Oct 03 14:18:05 RedNifre, any chance you know what that video is called ? Oct 03 14:26:01