**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 10 02:59:58 2013 Oct 10 03:00:53 is there a way to tell the main thread to wait for an async task to complete? Oct 10 03:01:06 if the app is opening for the first time there is some information I need to download Oct 10 03:01:09 navetz: do you know what "async" means? Oct 10 03:01:36 Leeds: yes, but I to get some data from the web the first time the app is opened Oct 10 03:01:51 Then make it synchronous instead of async Oct 10 03:02:29 you show a progress bar - possibly indeterminate - while you're loading data Oct 10 03:02:36 but it has to be an async task if you're downloaded data Oct 10 03:02:56 Says whom, exactly? Oct 10 03:03:08 it has to not be on the main UI thread Oct 10 03:04:00 I see, gotcha Oct 10 03:04:03 thanks guys Oct 10 03:09:02 what exactly is View? Oct 10 03:10:18 view is just some thing you have to have in button handlers Oct 10 03:10:54 (unless they are action bar buttons) Oct 10 03:11:24 what does it do? Oct 10 03:12:06 sorry I don't know either other than I have to have them for buttons Oct 10 03:14:19 https://github.com/android/platform_frameworks_base/blob/master/core/java/android/view/View.java Oct 10 03:14:28 ok Oct 10 03:14:46 that should help you figure out what "View" is! 18000 loc later 8) Oct 10 03:15:03 I just wrote a whole app with no idea what views are Oct 10 03:15:27 zmuser3: that's impressive :p literally the core of android UI Oct 10 03:16:11 I learned some oop while writing it. void foo(View v) {foo();} void foo() { ... } Oct 10 03:16:24 for the different kinds of buttons Oct 10 03:16:27 so If i have intents to one class, I need to extend it from the other class? Oct 10 03:16:32 what exactly does extend do? Oct 10 03:19:35 I just got an icon so I am almost ready to go. should I just make my testers buy from the app store or should I put a download of the apk on my site for volunteer testers? Oct 10 03:20:19 whats the app?> Oct 10 03:20:24 check out testflight Oct 10 03:20:34 https://testflightapp.com/ Oct 10 03:21:05 cool Oct 10 03:22:02 They even have an api to get crashes and log information from the testers. Oct 10 03:22:09 it's optional though Oct 10 03:23:25 i just uploaded a new apk to the app store for alpha testing. How long does it usually take before the new apk takes effect? Oct 10 03:23:33 how do you solicit feedback from users? should I have a link to a website in the app? Oct 10 03:24:02 rednovae: it says 2 hours right there... Oct 10 03:24:22 testflight offers user feedback Oct 10 03:24:29 awesome Oct 10 03:24:32 jaynewstorm ok, two hours, thanks Oct 10 03:24:38 btw where does it say that? Oct 10 04:09:02 <^cheeky> elooo , using Picasso.. library, is there a way to clear the cache manually? Oct 10 04:11:08 Why do you want to? Oct 10 04:11:17 <^cheeky> hiiiiiii Oct 10 04:11:18 <^cheeky> heh Oct 10 04:12:10 <^cheeky> oh ummm.. well, see when i click the clear or let the user do a new search, i empty out my arraylist, so i am assuming .. at this point that the cache for the images and its keys still exist ? Oct 10 04:12:48 They do. Oct 10 04:13:25 Why not let them work their way out through regular use? Oct 10 04:14:27 hello everybody Oct 10 04:14:52 hey i was a part of my text to show in different color in the textview Oct 10 04:15:42 i tried using Html.fromHtml("") but its not working out Oct 10 04:15:55 ForegroundColorSpan Oct 10 04:16:13 <^cheeky> when i check the heap, after couple of images . my heap goes up to 18 MB ish .. this is after say 300 pics .. in 2 x 2 grid view, and also when i run adb shell proc , i see 2570k .. USS Oct 10 04:17:01 <^cheeky> JakeWharton: btw, thank you for this :) Oct 10 04:25:59 Html.fromHtml is crappy and slow Oct 10 04:29:19 pfn: can you please explain how Html.fromHtml is slow ? Oct 10 04:29:54 how? run through traceview and see Oct 10 04:30:24 it's maybe a hundred times slower than using spannables directly Oct 10 04:31:20 if you're processing lots of text to style, it's not an efficient method Oct 10 04:39:24 https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/1375883_10202158124534128_1175448209_n.jpg Oct 10 04:39:26 so there! Oct 10 04:45:57 that's so.... hilarious... really... Oct 10 04:46:20 I dont know if hyou are being sarcastic Oct 10 04:46:28 but I laughed my ass off about it at work Oct 10 04:51:52 you need to get out more Oct 10 04:52:24 that I do Oct 10 05:13:16 <^cheeky> so much to do with so lil time , srsly why no matriX!!!! Oct 10 05:30:45 can i use touch listener in a custom keyboard / ime? Oct 10 05:55:20 hey is it a good practice to make the context as a global member in an adapter ? I need the context in an adapter to retrieve some images Oct 10 05:55:51 <^cheeky> i am wondering the same issue, kinda Oct 10 05:56:24 <^cheeky> sunny_slls: you padd the context into the adapter and have the adapters member variable hold the reference . Oct 10 05:56:24 <^cheeky> ? Oct 10 05:57:15 ^cheeky: anyhow you have to pass the context in the adapter to inflate the view through layoutInflater Oct 10 05:57:59 ^cheeky: till the layoutInflater is alive anyhow context will be alive. so i am thinking that its no harm to assign the context to global variable Oct 10 05:58:03 <^cheeky> well from what i have been mucking about , i would just call get activity, Oct 10 05:58:03 what do you say ? Oct 10 05:58:38 ^cheeky: call getActivity() from adapter ? Oct 10 05:58:48 <^cheeky> but i switched to passing in the context into it .. that being a a get activity in my fragment class, but i also read that you should use getApplicationContect Oct 10 05:58:59 sunny_slls, from the adapter it depends if your adapter is in inner class or not Oct 10 05:59:08 i dont use inner classes for my adapters Oct 10 05:59:18 so context needs to be passed in if i need it Oct 10 05:59:20 <^cheeky> ^^ yeah sorry , like what lemonxah mine was an inner class Oct 10 05:59:24 its not bad practice :) Oct 10 05:59:26 I wouldn't use it as a global variable Oct 10 05:59:36 not global var Oct 10 05:59:40 lemonxah: mine too is an inner class Oct 10 05:59:46 well, you mean public static? Oct 10 05:59:51 hey anyhow we can get context from the LayoutInflater Oct 10 05:59:55 but a local var in the adapter is fine if you dont mind if the context becomes stale Oct 10 06:00:29 you should never have static vars with context in it EVAR Oct 10 06:00:30 heh Oct 10 06:00:34 that is bad Oct 10 06:00:57 lemonxah: thats not static so i don't think I have to worry about memory leak Oct 10 06:01:00 anr Oct 10 06:01:22 i can just do mLayoutInflater.getContext() which will give me the context Oct 10 06:01:31 What are the best android libraries to download images, and for general HTTP requests? Oct 10 06:01:33 <^cheeky> sunny_slls: check out memory analyzer its an eclipse plugin Oct 10 06:01:55 g00s, thnx for the info about the bug fix for 0.3.0 Oct 10 06:02:00 Gavilan3 i guess volley is ? Oct 10 06:02:06 lemonxah ;) Oct 10 06:03:23 sunny_slls, why do you need context in your adapter? Oct 10 06:04:06 lemonxah: i need some images to be retrieved based some conditions Oct 10 06:04:11 my adapter is a generic adapter Oct 10 06:04:23 g00s: have you used it? Oct 10 06:04:34 so for images usually i send an array of drawables but this is a special case Oct 10 06:04:45 so i need context for that Oct 10 06:05:04 Gavilan3 no; i just listen to what people say about it. seems people like it Oct 10 06:07:21 lemonxah: how do you work with adapters ? do you send the drawables or just the rid and retrieve it in adapter Oct 10 06:07:22 ?? Oct 10 06:07:38 retrieve it in the adapter Oct 10 06:07:50 but i only use cursor adapters Oct 10 06:08:00 and reed ids from the sqlite db Oct 10 06:08:22 then fetch them from my cache or download and cache and then get it from the cache Oct 10 06:09:04 lemonxah: still you need context for that Oct 10 06:09:23 yeah i know :) like i said i pass in context when creating the adapter Oct 10 06:09:29 in the constructor Oct 10 06:09:49 was just wondering what you doing with it cause i have seem some messed up backwards adapters :) Oct 10 06:10:46 lemonxah: ofcourse you have to pass the context to inflate the view for LayoutInflater or else you won't be able to do it Oct 10 06:11:24 yes but more than that though Oct 10 06:11:35 lemonxah: but then that happens in the constructor and after that you don't have the context. are you assigning it to a global context member ? Oct 10 06:11:48 and then using it ? Oct 10 06:11:52 like ppl using the context to mutate data in fragments Oct 10 06:12:03 instead of using the context for disk io or network io Oct 10 06:12:25 not global sunny_slls but local to the adapter Oct 10 06:12:31 sunny you can store it in the adapter field Oct 10 06:12:50 lemonxah: ya i mean the adapter's member variable Oct 10 06:12:51 just with private Context mContext; Oct 10 06:12:54 yeah that is fine Oct 10 06:12:57 lemonxah: correct Oct 10 06:13:26 lemonxah: i do the same way. but usually i send an array of user-defined class with drawables in it Oct 10 06:13:32 you might not have the latest context so keep that in mind but if you are nto trying to mutate data on the context you passed in like activity or some such then its perfectly fine Oct 10 06:14:02 sunny_slls, it all depends on the data you have before creating the adapter Oct 10 06:14:25 in our setup all data is in the ContentProvider and we dont do any data related work in the fragments or activities Oct 10 06:14:38 save for adding a chat to the db Oct 10 06:14:52 ok Oct 10 06:15:04 but for displaying purposes the adapter is supposed to do the heavy lifting Oct 10 06:26:15 um not too heavy adapter runs off ui thread so too heavy and you'll get anr Oct 10 06:58:04 anybody know of a good online site that will show me everything in a video tutorial to become android certified Oct 10 06:58:13 i dont mind paying Oct 10 06:58:15 for it Oct 10 06:59:23 android certified ? Oct 10 07:00:25 Zeppelin: there are no official certifications for android programmers, afaik Oct 10 07:00:43 oh really Oct 10 07:00:47 i thought there was one Oct 10 07:01:01 how do you get a android programming job then Oct 10 07:01:11 if you don't have a degree or experience Oct 10 07:01:32 how needs degree or experience in mobile ? Oct 10 07:01:37 *who Oct 10 07:01:59 all the jobs in australia Oct 10 07:02:05 say you need experience Oct 10 07:02:09 get a job in support or QA Oct 10 07:02:11 Zeppelin: github Oct 10 07:02:11 and a degree Oct 10 07:02:13 usually Oct 10 07:02:21 make your github awesome Oct 10 07:02:23 that's all you need Oct 10 07:02:25 whats github? Oct 10 07:02:38 your resume Oct 10 07:02:39 http://github.com/ Oct 10 07:03:09 actually, i dont buy into the github == resume ; plenty of people can't put their stuff online Oct 10 07:03:20 but you should have a portfolio Oct 10 07:03:29 at least 2 apps in the market Oct 10 07:03:45 at least thats what most of the jobs here ask for Oct 10 07:04:33 oh right Oct 10 07:04:39 but i worry about people who ask how to get certified; its putting the cart before the horse Oct 10 07:04:43 i dont have any apps Oct 10 07:04:46 in the market Oct 10 07:04:52 i need to learn android programming first Oct 10 07:04:52 if you do it because you like it; then it will be obvious Oct 10 07:05:21 so hard work and things to show X talkig to people about said things = results Oct 10 07:05:45 i love being around computers Oct 10 07:05:52 but how do you know if you love programming Oct 10 07:06:09 i never want to sit down and learn anything because it seems to long and hard Oct 10 07:06:24 write an irc client. that will give you some gui, some net, some parsing, some protocol understanding, some everything. can't have too many irc clients Oct 10 07:06:45 yer i thought about doing that Oct 10 07:06:55 make an irc client for android? Oct 10 07:07:01 sure Oct 10 07:07:26 how longs it take to write something like that Oct 10 07:09:52 java http://www.drdobbs.com/jvm/if-java-is-dying-it-sure-looks-awfully-h/240162390/ Oct 10 07:10:26 interesting that orace is actually doing a better job than sun at actually releasing versions Oct 10 07:13:48 I have my github commits link in my actual resume ... and Java is healthy ... but Javascript keeps trying to suck me in Oct 10 07:14:06 capella do you like js ? Oct 10 07:14:41 Well, I like it more as I use it and have gotten familiar, but I still dont like runtime interpreted langs Oct 10 07:15:14 but Im old school like that Oct 10 07:16:04 capella hey, wasn't thete a FFOS update today ? Oct 10 07:16:55 Today / yesterday / forget which ... real recent, yah .... I saw some stuff on hackernews and the techCrunch Oct 10 07:22:50 g00s: http://m.techcrunch.com/tag/mozilla/ Oct 10 07:23:38 * capella just got back from a mozilla summit in Toronto ... thinks I'll hack into FFOS for fun and to get chicks Oct 10 07:32:51 capella what do you think of the Shumway thing Oct 10 07:33:21 i kinda wish they would let that crap die Oct 10 07:33:41 We love it ! It's real fast ! And we've needed a replacement player like everyone else Oct 10 07:33:56 Die? Why? Oct 10 07:34:04 flash ? Oct 10 07:34:08 yah Oct 10 07:34:11 g00s: regarding oracle and versions... When you consider that they started by dropping features? Oct 10 07:34:55 capella well, i guess if it doesn't suffer from the same security fiasco as the real flash player Oct 10 07:34:56 ... jesus christ shumway Oct 10 07:35:09 yeah, screw that let flash die Oct 10 07:35:10 g00s: probably worse ;) Oct 10 07:35:14 ouch - critics Oct 10 07:35:18 "So, why are you in FOSS?" - capella: "For the girls, really." Oct 10 07:35:18 :P Oct 10 07:35:33 Chicks dig it XD Oct 10 07:35:44 man we were so close, steve almost did it Oct 10 07:35:48 actually Flash VM was one of the more interesting platforms. And anything that lets you run code and interact with local OS is giant attack surface anyway :> Oct 10 07:35:53 and then you guys bring this crap back Oct 10 07:36:42 kakazza: doesn't sound like a way to pick up people of apropriate orientation/sex ;) Oct 10 07:36:51 hehe Oct 10 07:37:22 well, i bet girls like the cute fox logos :) Oct 10 07:37:45 more like a way to end up in a minefield (ha!) and in soul-sucking industry ;) Oct 10 07:37:46 And the guy in the suit gets major hugs at events Oct 10 07:37:55 haha Oct 10 07:38:09 brilliant; get the fox suit job Oct 10 07:38:44 g00s: according to photo evidence, networking hw gets more action ;) Oct 10 07:39:40 capella the FF feature i want is : which of my 300 tabs is eating my cpu :D Oct 10 07:43:06 Im told we have no such thing :( Oct 10 07:43:43 i know, lots of people ask for it. i don't know how it could be done, really because of the architecture Oct 10 07:44:15 g00s: I think more easily than it was to limit resource usage in Chrome ;) Oct 10 07:44:52 i have this unloadTab extension, it /seems/ to work, but still my ff starts gobbling more and more over time Oct 10 07:45:00 memory and cpu Oct 10 07:45:09 We have this in nightly but its very rough https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis#Enabling_Electrolysis Oct 10 07:45:55 And memory is way more under control than it used to be .... just saw some charts at the summit Oct 10 07:45:57 Hey guys, is this channel appropraite for a chat about how android devices map the bluetooth radio? I'm looking to capture some packets using tcpdump. Oct 10 07:46:25 And my Nexus 4 doesn't appear to have a bluetooth network device, which is causing problems. Oct 10 07:46:55 capella i saw some stuff in aurora about large graphics bitmaps in pages Oct 10 07:47:44 Yah - sounds familiar ... they hit me with a lot of info in 4 days Oct 10 07:48:18 :) I learned we reeeeeally dont like eme Oct 10 07:48:23 https://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/2013/10/01/memshrink-progress-week-117-120/ Oct 10 07:48:34 capella eme ? Oct 10 07:48:48 media encryption W3C standards etc Oct 10 07:48:54 oooh yeah Oct 10 07:49:00 g00s that's the link I saw ! 3d charts Oct 10 07:49:52 Someone actually openned a bugzilla bug for people to agree never to work on patches supporting the standards :P Oct 10 07:50:00 yeah, saw that Oct 10 07:50:04 There's like 150 comments in 4 days Oct 10 07:50:29 i like mozilla; one of the tech companies i really respect ;) Oct 10 07:50:56 capella i might give the fox a hug … hope its not you ;) Oct 10 07:51:20 XD They asked meto sign up to wear it for a shift and I declined Oct 10 07:52:36 g00s! Spent 1800$ on a Thinkpad W530 that bricked after 9 days .... went back for repairs three weeks ago and counting .... :( Oct 10 07:53:20 does anyone have a proguard-android.txt example that adds libraries from gradle's dependency? Oct 10 07:53:25 oh man, what happened ? Oct 10 07:53:41 capella ^^^ Oct 10 07:54:03 well, brick i guess its totally x.x Oct 10 07:54:04 it just froze up .... would turn back on ... parts were backordered now mother board / palm rest they said Oct 10 07:54:06 They actually called this a.m. and said they'd be mad if they were me so they're over nighting a new one Oct 10 07:54:19 wow Oct 10 07:54:32 generally hear good things about lenovo Oct 10 07:54:43 at least their better ones Oct 10 07:54:43 I'm impressed ! And I told them! Oct 10 07:55:19 3-year gauranteed warrantee so I wasnt tooworried but still ... in the shop for that long sucked Oct 10 07:56:01 if this comment on HN is correct (i guess i could really go through the commit history) google stopped optimizing dvm around 2.3 wrt GC and JIT (around the time oracle started the sue them) Oct 10 07:56:13 hi, i use ActionBar .. ActionBarCompact, i put in Mainifest this code android:logo="@drawable/iconebar" Oct 10 07:56:36 I know Cory Doctorow swears by thinkpads on the basis of their global on-site warranty - basically that a guy will come to you within a few hours anywhere in the world they have cover Oct 10 07:56:50 :O Oct 10 07:56:52 on Android 4.3 Nexus 4 it works but on Nexus One android 2.3 don't work i don't see custom logo in ActionBar Oct 10 07:57:05 Wow ! Oct 10 07:57:48 Yeah, that's why I bought my first Thinkpad. Oct 10 07:57:57 3 years warranty, guy comes and repairs or leaves a replacement. Oct 10 07:57:58 All i know is the quadcore with SSD would build FF from ground up in 12 mins vs my last Win machine taking ~3 hours Oct 10 07:58:14 capella windows 8 ? Oct 10 07:58:32 ok, "the next day, or sometimes the day after" http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/may/17/computing-opensource Oct 10 07:58:33 linux ? Oct 10 07:58:34 No - I threw out the Win 7 it camewith and finally went native (linux) Oct 10 07:58:47 capella no driver issues ? Oct 10 07:58:49 native, heh Oct 10 07:59:16 Only driver issue was I switch the NVIDIA to the open source but both were working Oct 10 07:59:27 hibernate / sleep works ok ? Oct 10 07:59:33 no ndis wrapper bs ? Oct 10 08:00:01 I need to get a new laptop very soon... I'm not sure if I'll get something slightly blocky and business-y, or a cheap ultrabook-style one Oct 10 08:02:16 the non-apple ultrabooks with high dpi displays seem to get pretty poor battery life Oct 10 08:02:45 Leeds: Dell offers the same. Both ThinkPads and Dells were covered like that with premium support :) Oct 10 08:04:34 Leeds i had this bookmarked from a while ago, probably out of date http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/09/the-last-pc-laptop.html Oct 10 08:04:41 i dont really keep up :) Oct 10 08:05:07 got meh reviews on amazon though :( Oct 10 08:05:11 if you travel a lot, the IBM global service is likely to beat anyone else - 8 years ago I spent some time working in a clothing factory outside Sri Lanka's main international airport - where they used all IBM (as was) kit because IBM were the only people able to give a proper service aroudn there Oct 10 08:05:56 also, AS/400, but it's better not to talk about that... the HK head office of the same company was all Dell, because Dell have proper local service in HK Oct 10 08:06:09 Leeds: well, my experience with IBM maxed out premium support was also rather... interesting Oct 10 08:06:30 As in "they had an engineer assigned to sit in our office, so that we didn't even have to call" Oct 10 08:07:03 we had HP support like that Oct 10 08:07:28 When I worked for Ryder at their Miami HQ we were a big IBM partner and they located onsite staff just for the account support also Oct 10 08:08:11 before I was in Sri Lanka... I was with Sun in the UK... strangely enough, we mainly used Sun kit, and if we had issues we just swapped something out :) Oct 10 08:11:05 if i am to translate a matrix, for instance matrix.preTranslate(10,10) would this move the matrix's upper left corner to (10,10), or move its current position by (10,10)= Oct 10 08:11:15 Leeds: I talked with a guy who worked with "top end" support staff at Sun. They had this lab with all kind of parts, located at an airfield, and if no one could figure what was happening they would build a copy of customer's system and progressively try to break it Oct 10 08:11:27 Leeds: then they would ship people and parts on direct flights :) Oct 10 08:12:26 I think the point is that there are/were *proper* support services around, of the "we guarantee your computer will be working within X hours, regardless of what it costs us" type Oct 10 08:18:52 making bt-lan game - sometimes there are delays sometimes not. api 14+. im wondering if this is normal behavior in BT? Oct 10 08:20:52 delays are more common if nothing is sent over rfcomm for some time Oct 10 08:21:03 as if the BT-baseband goes to some sleep Oct 10 08:21:11 if i am to translate a matrix, for instance matrix.preTranslate(10,10) would this move the matrix's upper left corner to (10,10), or move its current position by (10,10)= Oct 10 08:24:04 tortal there is no normal bt behavior ;) Oct 10 08:24:50 hah! Oct 10 08:29:15 Hey guys, I'm trying to work with a GridView of ImageViews. I've got it working to the point where my ImageViews show up and everything, but the GridView doesn't seem to make a new row or scroll Oct 10 08:29:59 I thought maybe the fact the GridView is within a ScrollView may be interfering, but when I moved it out of the ScrollView the ImageViews wouldn't even appear Oct 10 08:31:07 I'm kind of at a loss as to what's going on with it; I even tried setting numColumns to a low number and no luck :/ Oct 10 08:31:46 tortal, don't make it sleep then! Oct 10 08:36:07 Zharf: im talking about no transmissions for only abt 5 seconds. it's a real-time game, but spamming "pings" seems just like a ugly hack Oct 10 08:36:27 computertechie, you can have scrollviews in scrollviews Oct 10 08:36:44 cause which one should take the scroll event Oct 10 08:36:54 its like putting a listview in a scroll view Oct 10 08:37:30 tortal, guess how IRC works :D Oct 10 08:38:06 the listview will scroll so you wont see anything below the listview that is also in the scrollview Oct 10 08:38:12 so the scrollview is redundant Oct 10 08:38:30 There's elements other than the GridView in the ScrollView Oct 10 08:39:00 And like I said, I tried moving the GridView out of the ScrollView, but then nothing appeared at all when I added the ImageViews Oct 10 08:39:54 computertechie, the reason nothing shows up could be completely unrelated and i wouldn't know i cant see the code Oct 10 08:41:39 computertechie, also if you want to use a gridview inside a scrollview why not change it to gridlayout inside the scrollview Oct 10 08:41:53 that way you will get the desired scrolling Oct 10 08:42:17 or you have to dispatchTouchEvents to child vies Oct 10 08:42:22 views** Oct 10 08:43:40 guys anyone who can explain matrix.translate / canvas.translate for me ? i know it moves the image or whatever - but if i call translate(10,10) would it move the upper left corner towards those coordinates or just move the current position by the new coordinates Oct 10 08:48:02 troloyolo: it would mean any consecutive operations will be relative to 10,10 Oct 10 08:48:31 if I do something.translate(10,10); something.drawRect(10,10,10,10); Oct 10 08:48:52 the drawRect will draw the rectangle at 20,20 Oct 10 08:49:32 nb-ben is there any other way i can change the position of a canvas ? because my bounds dont function that well Oct 10 08:50:52 lemonxah, I had a GridLayout previously; if I remember right I switched to GridView based on GL not working well with dynamic data/varying number of views Oct 10 08:56:23 Anyone know any problems with using rawQuery in adnroid 4.0.3 and 4.0.4, getting java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: android.database.sqlite.SQLiteDatabase.rawQuery even in the emulator... Oct 10 08:56:55 either the two or three parameter query i get the same result Oct 10 09:04:07 hi, how can i make apps install location to external sd card through modify android source code ? which part ? i am using ics 4.0.4 Oct 10 09:04:56 I have String password = txtPassword.getText().toString().trim(); and want to determine if the string is empty, so I did password.equals( "" ) but this is not working. How do I check for an empty string? Oct 10 09:06:15 why not just check the length? Oct 10 09:06:43 zquad textUtils.isEmpty() Oct 10 09:06:58 .isEmpty() is only available at api 9+ Oct 10 09:07:08 then you won't have to check for nulls either Oct 10 09:07:13 checking the length must be too hard. oh well. Oct 10 09:07:13 my current minimum is 7 Oct 10 09:07:14 ? Oct 10 09:07:21 TextUtils Oct 10 09:08:02 api 1 Oct 10 09:08:27 one sec let me chekc the documentation again Oct 10 09:08:30 someone can tell me how i can use a landscape layout in pixel perfect? on the device the layout is landscape but in the pp view pane it is portrait show, thats makes it hard to optimize. thanks Oct 10 09:10:20 aaah thanks g00s Oct 10 09:12:15 Hey, google analytics SDK zip is 2.8MB, any idea what's the added size on the APK ? Oct 10 09:14:22 does anyone know what the most efficient map data structure in android? Oct 10 09:14:22 viran, ~200k Oct 10 09:14:35 for what Oct 10 09:14:37 someone can tell me how i can use a landscape layout in pixel perfect? on the device the layout is landscape but in the pp view pane it is portrait show, thats makes it hard to optimize. thanks Oct 10 09:14:39 purpose Oct 10 09:15:45 i just want to make it easier to lookup pairs of floatbuffer objects from a given string Oct 10 09:15:58 thanks drindt Oct 10 09:39:20 I am a secure web URL and is getting an error No peer certificate. You need a special procedure for... anyone familiar with this issue? Oct 10 09:39:43 aw man, i got my first bad review "Plain Sucks It just plain sucks" Oct 10 09:40:01 job review? Oct 10 09:40:08 app review Oct 10 09:40:16 OMG Oct 10 09:40:25 sorry I should stop drink this hour Oct 10 09:40:46 well, at least they were descriptive Oct 10 09:54:23 what's the app g00s Oct 10 09:54:24 ? Oct 10 10:00:13 g00s: Yeah, had that recently too. Oct 10 10:00:45 Very foul language, but basically boiled down to "Disappointed it didn't have all the features it explicitly said it didn't have" Oct 10 10:01:12 its disheartening Oct 10 10:01:15 "What, vim doesn't play 4K video? FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT EDITOR" Oct 10 10:01:24 heh Oct 10 10:01:27 inb4 emacs can do that Oct 10 10:02:05 He actually went into great detail, listing all the things he missed, asking for the app to be removed from the app store, heh. Oct 10 10:02:28 asking for the app to be removed ? O.o Oct 10 10:02:32 Gladly, the other reviews are 5 and some 4 stars. Oct 10 10:03:04 Yeah, it seems the app made him really angry. Like it's his personal nemesis. Oct 10 10:03:13 * kakazza shrugs Oct 10 10:03:50 Not sure what to answer. Currently I'm very much in favor of "pls troll somewhere else". But I'll let it slip and come up with a nice reply ;) Oct 10 10:03:53 Heh - I get that ... "I rate this 2 out of 5 stars cause the FF addon restores functionality that my version of FF hasn't removed yet so I dont see why anyone else would need this" Oct 10 10:04:13 hah! Oct 10 10:04:15 There is people in the play/app store that seriously need to find something else to do than publish irrelevant comments in app pages Oct 10 10:04:25 Which addons do you develop/maintain, capella? Oct 10 10:04:27 What options are there to update an app which won't be on the app store (business reasons)? For example the original Humble Bundle ran a check for updated version then downloaded to the device ready for install. Is there a need for a service? Oct 10 10:04:53 I got a 1 star review because the user couldnt download the app from playstore e.e Oct 10 10:04:56 Firefox Mobile addon called QuitNow ... just a stupid little vanity addon Oct 10 10:06:00 Ah Oct 10 10:06:10 Is there really a need for that? Oct 10 10:06:16 Then I get "The addon is supposed to quit the application but I can see it listed in the most recent apps page so its still running - no soup for you!" Oct 10 10:06:18 Do people feel the need to quit FF? Oct 10 10:06:29 ... Oct 10 10:06:40 Yah - we used to have that as a main mennu option but we removed it and people complained Oct 10 10:06:42 Tell him to "adb shell top" ;p Oct 10 10:06:58 It's a fast way to bail the app Oct 10 10:07:06 Heh, people get used to things too quickly. Even if it's probably their only app that had a Quit button. Oct 10 10:07:18 other ways is to hit back like 1000 times or use the Android app killer Oct 10 10:07:41 The Android App killer is my favourite way of doing it. Very comfortable to do with your thumb. Oct 10 10:07:54 At least on phones with soft keys. Oct 10 10:07:58 Like the N4 Oct 10 10:08:19 it would be good to close it by long pressing the back key :/ Oct 10 10:08:31 Yah byt people freke when they see "if you force stop and app it may kill your grandma and rape your cat' Oct 10 10:08:43 type messages Oct 10 10:11:51 I bet there's anecdotal evidence! Oct 10 10:14:07 Heh - I finally put a disclaimer on the addon that I change from time to time ... says stuff like QuitNow does not contribute to global climate change, is not a net producer of galactic neutralinos, has not been shown to create magnetic monopoles, etc.... Oct 10 10:14:57 g00s what is your app? Oct 10 10:15:21 I bet a lot of smokers gave 1 star reviews. "Did not help me quit" Oct 10 10:16:30 Google search for QuitNow turns up a Playstore app for smokers to quit by that name Oct 10 10:16:57 But yah - Im ewaiting for the first one of those XD Oct 10 10:17:30 700,000 downloads and 84,000 avg daily users :D Oct 10 10:17:44 I made a whole bunch of no money ;) Oct 10 10:18:25 i like your icon Oct 10 10:18:51 reminds of the meme "talk to the hand" Oct 10 10:18:58 It's the actual Moz icon from before ... the UI guys asked meto use it Oct 10 10:19:54 how are guys incentivised to keep making apps when they offer them for free? Oct 10 10:20:23 "this app actually compelled me to smoke more than ever!" Oct 10 10:20:34 :) Oct 10 10:20:36 Well Im a moz contributor in the FF android app ... I supplied that in case of user push back ... which we received Oct 10 10:20:48 when we removed the original Oct 10 10:25:36 did the social network aspect really make a signifigant difference to the downloads? Oct 10 10:26:26 *i mean do you know if Oct 10 10:30:15 Hello. By Default executeOnExecutor will process the tasks from the first to the last, right? When i add one task it will be executed as LAST task, isnt it? Oct 10 11:15:24 hi people! Oct 10 11:16:22 I want to create some Fragments that are not visible yet and just register them to the FragmentManager. I do it but when I want to retrieve the Fragments, with findFragmentByTag, it always returns null. Do you have any idea why? Oct 10 11:18:59 define "register them to fm"? Oct 10 11:19:27 tx.add(frgmt, TAG_LIST); Oct 10 11:19:33 tx is a FragmentTransaction Oct 10 11:24:07 Hey everyone Oct 10 11:24:18 your are commiting the transaction? Oct 10 11:24:41 http://pastebin.com/W2yccpNF how can line 12 be NULL? Oct 10 11:24:58 i get a null pointer exception.. Oct 10 11:25:11 db is null Oct 10 11:25:20 believe prefs returns null for string if key not found Oct 10 11:26:15 yes but.. before its checked with != null AND new File(db).exists ... Oct 10 11:26:46 oh yeah tunnel vision setting in ;p Oct 10 11:26:52 wa.decryptDB(new File(db)); Oct 10 11:26:54 wa null? Oct 10 11:27:07 yes I commited the transaction Oct 10 11:27:22