**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 26 02:59:59 2013 Oct 26 03:03:00 woop: they don't repair them either, probably :P Oct 26 03:03:46 lol yeah Oct 26 03:04:07 how much does it cost to send it to apple for repair? Oct 26 03:04:26 dammit why do this do not stop Oct 26 03:04:36 aha found why Oct 26 03:04:47 knew as soon as I ranted I'd find the bug Oct 26 03:06:47 nubish: $0 if you do it right Oct 26 03:07:39 haha Oct 26 03:10:45 holy shit im watching this show called the tomorrow people Oct 26 03:10:46 its wicked sick Oct 26 03:15:16 Just had a thought in bed. Why not just use JDBC? Oct 26 03:16:35 Meh sod it. Oct 26 03:16:38 Night all Oct 26 03:17:02 Anthaas: your missile address was noted and given to USSC :> Oct 26 03:17:47 it might work if he uses XML over JDBC :) Oct 26 03:17:56 json wouldn't be as fast though Oct 26 03:17:58 XD Oct 26 03:21:15 Anthaas just needs to read up on all of these Oct 26 03:21:25 omg im farting petroleum Oct 26 03:23:01 careful Oct 26 03:23:09 or usa will claim your butt :P Oct 26 03:23:18 expecially texan Oct 26 03:24:50 had too much milk with poptarts Oct 26 03:25:01 im gonna get so fat Oct 26 03:29:19 hi, anyone have a good alternitive for xml editors other then the one in the Eclipse android dev pack Oct 26 03:29:34 farting oil is one of the joys of either consuming a lot of Olean or using the Alii Oct 26 03:29:43 vim Oct 26 03:32:31 i love vim, but for xml uh Oct 26 03:33:48 Just setting up the look of the app basically Oct 26 03:34:12 the gui in the eclipse on is nice but its way to touchy Oct 26 03:34:16 one* Oct 26 03:36:45 Well... I have Huawei u8815, today i replace touch screen to new one. My oryginal ICS was not able to recognize it. As i tested i need plug old one in boot process and then can replug the new one and use without trouble. Currently i root my device and put cm-10.1-20131025-NIGHTLY-u8815 rom. Oct 26 03:37:07 It boot but still my touch screen is not initialized. Oct 26 03:37:38 Any clue how to initialize it or debug why its fail? Oct 26 03:39:48 Nilium: I found stats on the PHP versions used out there Oct 26 03:39:49 http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/pl-php/5/all Oct 26 03:40:25 I was talking about which version people were coding for, not which version was installed Oct 26 03:40:28 but that only means that the servers are running php5, not that the code on them is php5 Oct 26 03:40:55 finding out that kind of thing seems to be an expensive study nobody cares to do Oct 26 03:41:18 or maybe not... I'm sure some professor could get grad students to email website owners Oct 26 03:41:31 It'd be a boring study. Oct 26 03:41:41 Not really useful either, since knowing doesn't help much. Oct 26 03:42:11 The problem is just convincing people to stop aiming for the lowest common denominator Oct 26 03:43:26 Greetings, folks! Could anyone please suggest me how could I implement two-thumbs seekbar that is vertical as well: is there any libraries or whatever? I know I can write it myself, but this would take much more time than I have Oct 26 03:47:01 two-thumbs seekbar? is that a bar that you have two knobs on? Oct 26 03:47:49 Rager: yeah, it should be Oct 26 03:49:36 As an option it would be very nice if I could set custom background and thumb drawables Oct 26 03:56:28 sounds very custom to me Oct 26 03:56:34 and have to write it I think Oct 26 04:27:54 is it possible to get location updates without having to implement a service Oct 26 04:28:14 (to which its soul task would be to manage a LocationListener) Oct 26 04:38:03 Rager, eating a lot of escolar results in farting and leaking a lot of oil Oct 26 04:40:09 which, according to the wiki, apparently is sold as albacore tuna at sushi joints Oct 26 04:47:23 Is the Nexus 4 considered a normal sized device? Oct 26 04:52:54 not to me Oct 26 04:53:07 i want to go back to the old galaxy s2 format Oct 26 04:53:25 silly bigger screens…ugh! Oct 26 04:53:57 StingRay_: Men are just starting to realize an universal truth that women have known for a long long time... Oct 26 04:54:02 StingRay_: BIGGER IS BETTER!!! Oct 26 04:54:52 what do you guys do to accommodate something like the samsung note; is that a tablet ? Oct 26 04:55:09 just let the phone sized-layouts stretch? Oct 26 04:55:22 stretch ??? Oct 26 04:55:45 the fracking thing is #3 in the analytics for a huge app my buddy is working on Oct 26 04:55:57 so it must be pretty popular Oct 26 04:56:08 yeah, on my beta group quite high ratio also Oct 26 04:56:15 2 more added today Oct 26 04:56:56 good job we can have adaptive UI's right ? Oct 26 04:56:57 :) Oct 26 05:00:37 i have a few beta testers using SM on 3g note 10.1 Oct 26 05:01:38 SM ? Oct 26 05:01:43 my app Oct 26 05:01:46 oh Oct 26 05:01:51 hey, did you try crashlytics ? Oct 26 05:02:02 no bugsense currently Oct 26 05:02:08 working well ? Oct 26 05:02:15 so so Oct 26 05:02:23 well, yes for my needs currently Oct 26 05:02:56 uh, i'm not getting shit done. working on 3 apps at the same time across 2 platforms Oct 26 05:03:01 i can't multitask Oct 26 05:20:27 Man...im trying to use Android Studio Oct 26 05:20:41 I have no idea what's going on :ap Oct 26 05:20:52 What's this whole maven business? Oct 26 05:21:04 How do I import libraries? Oct 26 05:21:33 http://i.imgur.com/nUem835.jpg Oct 26 05:22:49 Lol Oct 26 05:23:55 Blah...I don't even want to use an IDE haha, but my partner insists :P Oct 26 05:25:21 Just use eclipse Oct 26 05:25:24 and ADT Oct 26 05:25:35 or the lazy mans solution Oct 26 05:25:43 Android developer tools pack Oct 26 05:26:00 Meh...eclipse... Oct 26 05:26:09 And yes that's what I want to do... Oct 26 05:29:29 Well, I've finally implemented vertical two-thumb slider. Hooray! Oct 26 05:31:42 Ugh Oct 26 05:31:54 I hate when things dont work :p Oct 26 05:32:53 I spent like 2 hours with it Oct 26 05:33:03 Basically I couldn't get it to find the support library Oct 26 05:33:51 Also...I wonder how efficient the support library is.. Oct 26 05:34:03 I'm developing with a g1 and a garminfone :p Oct 26 05:34:52 frankdrey thats even worse than my droid-1 :D Oct 26 05:35:07 :D Oct 26 05:35:20 are you using sensors or something the emu doesn't have ? Oct 26 05:35:31 My PC is shit slow Oct 26 05:35:39 Emu boots 20 minutes Oct 26 05:36:00 well, ok. i was going to recommend genymotion, but thats vbox and needs about 1G Oct 26 05:36:02 ram Oct 26 05:36:08 Ram I have Oct 26 05:36:11 :o Oct 26 05:36:27 AS needs about 1G too :) Oct 26 05:36:35 so if you have 4G should be OK Oct 26 05:37:21 Linux? Oct 26 05:37:33 hm, i think it works on linux Oct 26 05:37:45 Wait...vbox Oct 26 05:37:47 It should Oct 26 05:38:08 i dont have any extensions either, it was a pretty easy install Oct 26 05:38:19 but i'm on mac, so can't help with linux specifics Oct 26 05:38:51 Yup Linux works Oct 26 05:38:56 Ill give it a shot Oct 26 05:39:04 Tomorrow Oct 26 05:39:06 ;) Oct 26 05:39:09 I need to sleep :p Oct 26 05:40:05 g00s: this crashlytics looks better than bugsense Oct 26 05:40:17 yah Oct 26 05:40:18 well, the web stuff and the freeness of features Oct 26 05:40:58 just asked for invite Oct 26 05:41:23 if api is as easy and adaptable/customisable as bugsense then hey ho, may switch Oct 26 05:41:27 or use both :) Oct 26 05:41:59 nah Oct 26 05:42:07 more shit to go wrong / explode, just use 1 Oct 26 05:42:34 i know somebody working on fixing an app thats crashing because one of 6, yes *fucking 6* analytics libraries is eating shit Oct 26 05:45:02 Now I cant fall asleep knowing I have failed :p Oct 26 05:47:37 StingRay_ i wouldn't be surprised if one crash lib clobbered the other installing the exception handler Oct 26 05:47:47 but if they do it right i think it should work Oct 26 05:47:50 *if* Oct 26 06:09:01 how can I see if a statusbar notification I created earlier still exists, or if the user cancelled it away? Oct 26 06:09:12 Hey guys, just started playing around with android dev today, after a while of working I've run into something that so far I haven't been able to work out: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6h6dw18xzlbmsr1/Screenshot%202013-10-26%2017.03.07.png Oct 26 06:09:20 Any ideas? :( Oct 26 06:16:25 Does freenode ever stop netsplitting? Oct 26 06:16:27 tweeky: does that string resource exist ? Oct 26 06:16:53 I'm not sure, what exactly do you mean? I was following a google guide but must be missing something.. :) Oct 26 06:17:06 Do I have to define it somewhere else? Oct 26 06:17:17 thats not defining it Oct 26 06:17:24 thats referencing it Oct 26 06:17:32 Oh ok Oct 26 06:17:33 it is defined in an xml resource Oct 26 06:17:51 guessing it would be in your strings.xml Oct 26 06:18:00 :) Oct 26 06:18:37 values/strings, i see I see... So I should be defining it all in strings.xml first? =p Oct 26 06:19:04 well if you plan to use it Oct 26 06:19:14 you should go thought the android tuts on d.android.com Oct 26 06:19:18 getting started guides etc Oct 26 06:20:16 Ah ok Oct 26 06:20:18 Thanks Oct 26 06:21:16 Yeah, I've been following googles guides but in no order, mainly because I usually program in windows, for windows in c/cpp and most guides have a lot I don't want/need to know. But I've never done Java really, but I'm getting it :) Oct 26 06:26:14 tweeky: why turn to java/android ? Oct 26 06:26:27 as in what has got you wanting to get into android Oct 26 06:27:12 Bought an S4, couldn't find a launcher that had everything I wanted Oct 26 06:40:57 Hmm, can't seem to use Preference Fragments because I've set the project to run on too low of an Android OS, can the minimum Android version be altered after the project setup? Can't seem to find it... Oct 26 06:47:23 manifest Oct 26 06:47:34 you really should start with the gettings started guides Oct 26 06:49:23 Yeah i'll take a look =p Oct 26 06:50:03 good code for all Oct 26 06:55:16 Admob is paying me 65 cents a click from Canada today...cool Oct 26 06:56:06 what is it normally ? Oct 26 06:56:25 hmm Oct 26 06:57:13 maybe 21 cents Oct 26 06:57:23 http://www.androidhive.info/2013/09/android-sqlite-database-with-multiple-tables/ done with this, i get a data from a method… now how can use this method of data to create a listview ? Oct 26 06:57:27 oh so quite a bump Oct 26 06:57:36 what is it for just a show and not a click ? Oct 26 06:58:02 I think you get a few pennies for showing ads, but the real money is from clicks Oct 26 06:58:21 i mean does that x3 today ? Oct 26 06:58:50 Yaa, it has been going up all month Oct 26 06:59:06 I made at least $87 yesterday Oct 26 06:59:43 I am releasing a new app soon, which hopefully will do good, and I expect things to pick up with the tablets and phones people will get for Christmas Oct 26 06:59:55 rabbi1: by using the cursor in a adapter that powers a listView Oct 26 07:00:00 If I make $98 a day on Android ads I can do Android full time for myself Oct 26 07:00:12 $36000 a year is not much but I can live on it Oct 26 07:00:13 StingRay_: artist ….. Oct 26 07:00:30 ? Oct 26 07:00:41 Ologn: what your current app ? Oct 26 07:00:45 StingRay_: a little more will help… Oct 26 07:01:00 StingRay_, the one I will be publishing in the coming weeks? Oct 26 07:01:08 Ologn: no current Oct 26 07:01:31 I have a few... http://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Panacea+Supplies Oct 26 07:01:32 rabbi1: not sure what other help to give, besides going into full blown training Oct 26 07:02:22 Ologn: oh yeah, I remember.... Oct 26 07:02:24 :) Oct 26 07:03:08 I've been too busy doing my CS homework to release my new app, hopefully I'll have it translated and out for a little bit before Christmas Oct 26 07:03:31 well my 1st app is almost out Oct 26 07:03:41 after all my learning Oct 26 07:03:53 StingRay_: i want to know how to pass the data to a variable of Cursor Oct 26 07:04:06 going to do a soft release, then few feature adds then it will be away and I will shout about it :) Oct 26 07:04:07 yaya Oct 26 07:04:16 rabbi1: One good thing to look at is the Android samples Google has Oct 26 07:04:31 rabbi1, they have examples of passing data to Cursors and junk... Oct 26 07:04:32 rabbi1: a variable to a cursor ? Oct 26 07:04:51 you mean a sqlite query ? Oct 26 07:05:36 StingRay_, the one thing I learned over the past 2.5 years is the whole agile, lean startup etc. thing is the way to go... Oct 26 07:05:38 StingRay_: List contact = new ArrayList(); Oct 26 07:05:38 contact=getAllContacts(); Oct 26 07:05:38 ArrayAdapter adapter = new ArrayAdapter(this, android.R.layout.simple_list_item_1, contact); Oct 26 07:05:38 listContent.setAdapter(adapter); Oct 26 07:05:59 rabbi1: pointless initialization of contact to arraylist that you throw away Oct 26 07:06:18 rabbi1: you need to do the basics Oct 26 07:06:22 on listViews Oct 26 07:06:34 then your questions are answered Oct 26 07:07:21 Hmm I set the minsdkversion to 11 but it still thinks it's 8, even after an ide restart :( Oct 26 07:07:24 Normal? Oct 26 07:07:40 tweeky: where, the manifest? Oct 26 07:07:43 i did it but not with sqlite data… will go through again. thanks Oct 26 07:07:44 yep Oct 26 07:08:20 if you want to change the build target, the project.properties file can be adjusted. Oct 26 07:09:37 Hmm, there's local.properties with a single line in it, a path, that apparantly is generated by the ide (Using AS btw) Oct 26 07:10:20 Oh. Well then I have no idea. Possibly build.gradle lists the sdk used for building, if *that* is what you want to change. Oct 26 07:11:49 tweeky: your maybe using some lib that it referencing a non-support-lib class Oct 26 07:12:03 changing the imports to the support-lib maybe what you need Oct 26 07:12:07 the build version has to be large enough to contain features you want to use, this is why I suggest it Oct 26 07:12:19 oh hang on… I'm talking sh*t Oct 26 07:12:21 tired Oct 26 07:12:23 is there a way to have two apps define the same intent, and detect if the other app is installed, and use the already-installed app's intent if so, rather than the one it defines? Oct 26 07:12:26 8am here now Oct 26 07:12:52 From 6 months ago to now has much changed on Android? Oct 26 07:13:18 significant^ Oct 26 07:13:35 in what way ? Oct 26 07:13:38 not really I dont think Oct 26 07:14:28 just anything significant that a developer should know Oct 26 07:19:48 StingRay_: i need to use http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/declaring-layout.html#AdapterViews SimpleCursorAdapter, under which can you tell me what is ContactsContract ? Oct 26 07:21:46 see on that page you linked Oct 26 07:21:53 there is a seach icon top right Oct 26 07:22:03 search "ContactsContract" and takes you to all the info Oct 26 07:22:17 talbes, fields, intent use etc Oct 26 07:22:19 all of it Oct 26 07:57:56 Hello! anyone knows how to use nine patches? Oct 26 08:02:37 hi, ~apklib-org.holoeverywhere_library_1.6.8 always refer to Maven:com.google.android:support-v4:r13, how can I switch to use "com.android.support:support-v4:13.0.0" ? I'm using Intellij Idea 13. Oct 26 08:03:19 "Maven:com.google.android:support-v4:r13" does not existed in my local .m2 repo, but "com.android.support:support-v4:13.0.0" does. Oct 26 08:05:26 Hey guys, I created an XML for a settings page, with a few check boxes, and added a small class with an onCreate function, but can't find any info on the site on how to actually display the settings page. How would I go about displaying it? I was thinking with intents but still kind of confused. Oct 26 08:05:39 see my IDEA config http://d.pr/i/z553 Oct 26 08:05:54 Trying to have it open on an options button click event. I have two, one for my settings and one for system settings (Which works of course) Oct 26 08:11:03 tweeky: that's fine, what's ur confuse? Oct 26 08:16:58 the conflict part, i think, http://d.pr/i/5dfC Oct 26 08:25:43 Just not sure on how to launch the settings menu Oct 26 08:33:42 Like, my settings class only has one function anyway, onCreate. Oct 26 08:45:21 I'm making a CRUD style app with synchronization. Any thoughts on persistance? I can easily put together a REST server with JPA/JAXB/JAXRS but hmm, what do I do with the client? I don't really feel like typing SQL queries. Oct 26 08:45:51 Is it a good idea to mix ThreadSafeClientConnManager and ThreadPoolExecutor? Oct 26 08:49:10 I looked at ActiveAndroid and db40 but am a bit worried about performance. Are there any extremely light-weight tools? Oct 26 08:54:44 hi Oct 26 08:58:24 hey guys question, how do I make something a decimal Oct 26 08:58:36 double lowfeetplusinch = inchlowint + lowfeettoinch + declowint ; <--- i need the last one to be a decmial Oct 26 08:59:44 I made the edittext box a decimal but it still seems to think its a whole number Oct 26 08:59:53 PureEvil: http://developer.android.com/reference/java/text/DecimalFormat.html Oct 26 08:59:55 how do I get it to add the . Oct 26 09:00:06 I tried that, keeps telling me I cant do it to double Oct 26 09:01:06 do I need to do it before this: double decupint = Double.valueOf(updec_text.getText().toString()) ; Oct 26 09:07:52 PureEvil: setMinimumFractionDigits wouldn't work? Oct 26 09:08:31 dont know that one Oct 26 09:08:51 fyi this is the first app I have ever attempted, so far so good other then this decimal issue Oct 26 09:08:53 lol Oct 26 09:09:36 PureEvil: Am not very familiar either. DecimalFormat has setMinimumFractionDigits which determines number of digits after the . Oct 26 09:10:11 Is it a good idea to mix ThreadSafeClientConnManager and ThreadPoolExecutor? Oct 26 09:15:34 i have a list, 200-300 items.. user can filter. when i filter ArrayList i must clean adapter e re-set adapter in ListView? Oct 26 09:41:02 found a simple fix, just / 100 Oct 26 09:41:09 made it a decmial Oct 26 09:55:21 Can anyone help with my settings problem :) Oct 26 09:55:33 I've looked at a bunch of guides, latest being this: http://android-elements.blogspot.com.au/2011/06/creating-android-preferences-screen.html Oct 26 09:56:23 And I create the settings panel, however I can't work out how to say, go to it. I'm trying to display it on an onOptionsItemSelected option from the home screen. :s Oct 26 10:27:36 double feetupint = Double.valueOf(upfeetinput_text.getText().toString()); Oct 26 10:27:36 if(feetupint == Double.NaN) feetupint = 0; Oct 26 10:27:43 what do I have wrong there? Oct 26 10:28:04 its crashing my app if you leave a EditText empty Oct 26 10:28:59 I also tried == "" and == null Oct 26 10:32:17 if(feetupint.equals(value) ? Oct 26 10:32:50 Can't you just check if EditText has content, and process only if it does? Oct 26 10:35:10 PureEvil Oct 26 10:36:36 I looking at it Oct 26 10:36:54 I want it to just make it a 0 if it has nothing in it Oct 26 10:37:49 OnTextChangeListener Oct 26 10:40:56 I have it in the OnClick for the button now Oct 26 10:41:13 will that make a diffrence if I put it in the on text change? Oct 26 10:45:34 I got it just needed to do this: if (upfeetinput_text.getText().toString().equals("")) { Oct 26 10:58:58 There's probably isEmpty(), it's more elegant, or .length() == 0 Oct 26 11:08:34 thank you alankila Oct 26 11:08:43 .length() == 0 worked perfect Oct 26 11:08:48 and does look much better Oct 26 11:15:53 hi, can I send binary data with the Android SMS app? More precisly I'd like to make an intent starting the SMS app with some binary data prefilled Oct 26 11:16:09 usign the 8-Bit SMS codec Oct 26 11:17:03 hello Oct 26 11:17:46 is there a way to let the adapter know that is getView is called becouse of setAdapter or becouse refresh notifyDataSetChanged ? Oct 26 11:17:58 *its getView Oct 26 11:42:26 hi, how to import the resource from dependency library like HoloEverywhere? I got an error about "no resource found ... @style/Holo.Theme".. Oct 26 12:10:32 guys I'm trying to make an app that would communicate with wordpress installation as a news reader. does anyone have experience with this and what would be the best place to start - ie. plugin or JDBC? Oct 26 12:11:26 you almost certainly want to do your actual Internet communication over HTTP Oct 26 12:12:34 aha, so you'd suggest pulling articles directly via http requests Oct 26 12:13:26 probably best to use a json interface, but rss/xml/etc is doable Oct 26 12:13:47 right, I thought about SAX or so, but this makes sense. Thanks man Oct 26 13:19:17 * Baluse listerin Oct 26 13:19:43 hello i want to select category then product then customization. Oct 26 13:19:55 I had implemented this in past with 3 activities Oct 26 13:20:10 Is it better to use a single activity with fragments? Oct 26 13:42:40 Baluse: its really up to how you want to do it. The three fragments will be more flexible Oct 26 13:54:57 is there a tool to validate if an apk file is properly signed? Oct 26 13:55:28 I'm messing around with a basic launcher... temelate you could say. How should I approach drawing a status bar shadow? As an exercise. Should I draw an image over the screen, say 1x30 and just stretch it horizontally? Or are there ways to draw gradients and primitives within the api? Oct 26 14:06:17 well i want to avoid the lag when opening new activity has Oct 26 14:06:34 but is it possible to change action bar per Oct 26 14:06:38 fragment ? Oct 26 14:12:28 Baluse: yes its possible Oct 26 14:50:19 Is it a good idea to mix ThreadSafeClientConnManager and ThreadPoolExecutor? Oct 26 15:11:22 if anyone is interested I am starting today the Beta for my next game... it's a game on the Tycoon genre (similar to Kairosoft's games, but I consider my game a bit deeper)... Oct 26 15:11:42 all help will be appreciated... more info: http://www.gamedev.net/page/indie/project.html/_/simulation/big-boss-tv-r11 Oct 26 15:27:33 hello Oct 26 15:27:48 rottz did you do the graphics? Oct 26 15:28:04 i want to add search at my listview. Should i put it at actionbar? Oct 26 15:48:26 On android studio, if I want to try the app on a device, I need to click the "Play" button, make it and then deploy, is there a way to just deploy? the make takes quite long time Oct 26 15:49:35 the same is for eclpise Oct 26 15:52:32 search isnt showing at actionbar Oct 26 15:52:34 why? Oct 26 16:01:11 Are you following the developer docs on how to add a search view? Oct 26 16:04:48 yes Oct 26 16:04:58 but only get search at overfow Oct 26 16:05:29 however it seems that this is null SearchView searchView = (SearchView) menu.findItem(R.id.action_search).getActionView(); Oct 26 16:07:32 afternoon Oct 26 16:08:47 can anyone tell me where I might find out more about the animation which is show with a ListFragment when using the "@android:layout/list_content" layout? Oct 26 16:09:13 specifically, I want to determine how I can actually get the loading message to display while my data is being retreived from the database Oct 26 16:36:19 Hello. I have a question.. I was using GCM and MQTT before. GCM is good but somethings it will not be delivered + Google Account is required in Android below 4.0+. MQTT was good too but it does not work for some users (and i have no idea why). Well, now i want to give XMPP a try. Does it require Wake_locks or a Foreground service to run? How about the "heavy-load" traffic? Does it take Oct 26 16:36:19 huge performance or traffic for sending/receiving a message? Oct 26 17:01:21 Hi Oct 26 17:02:27 I've started doing some Android dev using IDEA and Java, but I'm quite frustrated with Java 7 (I'm used to C#) and would like to use Java 8 - would this affect working with Android? If so, would I be better off using Scala, or would that cause problems too - am I better off using Java 7? Oct 26 17:04:31 better off using scala Oct 26 17:05:17 and yes, you cannot use java8 on android Oct 26 17:05:22 Thanks Oct 26 17:05:31 IFAIK some/most/all of Java 7 isn't really officially supported, is it? Oct 26 17:05:52 the stuff that's byte code compatible works Oct 26 17:06:12 which is like everything except try with resources, I think Oct 26 17:06:32 I noticed that I can compile and run with IDEA set to use 7, but I didn't find any Android libs which supported try with resources... Oct 26 17:06:33 Yes that :) Oct 26 17:07:26 but everything in this case isn't much Oct 26 17:07:49 additionally, you don't want to use any libraries that ate only available on 7 Oct 26 17:07:53 I tried to use try with resources with some SQLite stuff and it didn't seem to implement the required interface - not that that's a problem, but when you're used to 'using', it's quite depressing to go back to a = null; try { a = ... } finally { if (a != null) a.close(); } Oct 26 17:07:57 like jodatime Oct 26 17:08:00 ah Oct 26 17:08:18 also further cause of failures Oct 26 17:08:54 if you want a better language for Android, your two choices are monotouch or scala Oct 26 17:09:21 or whatever mono thing that is that lets you do c# Oct 26 17:09:44 yep it's called Xamarin now I think Oct 26 17:09:52 that's the company Oct 26 17:10:03 They renamed the product after the company Oct 26 17:10:04 product is monotouch, I thought Oct 26 17:10:11 is that so Oct 26 17:10:18 Yes, it confused me for a bit Oct 26 17:11:12 I like learning new languages (as long as they're good ;) and it's easier using more 'official' stuff on a platform, so Java or Scala it is, I think Oct 26 17:12:00 scala is not so official, but it works most transparently vs c# Oct 26 17:13:07 Excellent Oct 26 17:14:26 hope you're a functional fanatic Oct 26 17:15:45 Not quite a fanatic, but it's my preferred way to live Oct 26 17:19:05 Can a BaseAdapter know if its getView is called becouse of setAdapter or data refresh ( notifyDataSetChanged )? Oct 26 17:21:03 hi Oct 26 17:21:44 i am trying to create a different view for landscape mode for my activity, but for some reason it always shows the general view, is there a way to trace what is going wrong? Oct 26 17:23:10 meh Oct 26 17:25:31 gdrc, if it matters, you're doing it wrong Oct 26 17:26:32 you say? :P Oct 26 17:34:35 if i start my app in landscape mode it takes the right layout file, but if i then switch to portrait it doesn't switch to the portrait-xml Oct 26 17:35:59 LtRipley: you have to implement onConfigurationChanged maybe ? Oct 26 17:36:38 shmooz: why would i need to do that? Oct 26 17:36:42 If you're handing orientation changes, you need to reinflate your layout Oct 26 17:36:55 i thought that was happening automagically? Oct 26 17:37:53 actually it looks like it is inflatet Oct 26 17:38:01 but with the wrong layout file Oct 26 17:38:13 is there a way to verify why an emulator doesn't run? (black screen) Oct 26 17:38:41 when i turn my device, i will get a new view, but the view takes still the old layout-file Oct 26 17:38:42 Do you have configChanges="orientation" in your manifest? Oct 26 17:39:10 android:configChanges="orientation|keyboardHidden|screenSize" Oct 26 17:39:14 <|0xD34D|> doh Oct 26 17:39:19 Well, there you go Oct 26 17:39:31 <|0xD34D|> you're telling the system you will handle the orientation changes Oct 26 17:39:36 You explicitly told it that you were handling orientation changes Oct 26 17:39:38 <|0xD34D|> instead of letting it do the work Oct 26 17:39:42 Is it a reasonable, sane thing to use NHibernate on Android, or is there something terribly wrong with doing so? Oct 26 17:39:45 SimonVT: oh Oct 26 17:40:01 i don't remember telling it so :D Oct 26 17:40:22 Just that I'm going a bit crazy writing queries in strings for SQLite. It makes me feel like a PHP programmer or something ;) Oct 26 17:40:54 SimonVT: thanks, i guess that solves my problem Oct 26 17:40:54 Sorry, I mean Hibernate, of course Oct 26 17:48:29 it wouldn't work Oct 26 17:48:54 there's no jdbc interface to sqlite for android Oct 26 17:49:19 Foxandxss, wait 10 minutes Oct 26 17:49:31 <^cheeky> o/ Oct 26 17:49:44 pfn: nah, seems like nexus10 emulator needed gpu emulation Oct 26 17:49:46 <^cheeky> i am alive :)) Oct 26 17:51:26 it doesn't need it, it just runs faster with it on Oct 26 17:52:00 <^cheeky> OnCan ... where you @ Oct 26 18:00:33 pfn: seems like nexus10 doesn't work without it :) Oct 26 18:23:58 So I am trying to write an image to a file then have a WebView open the file. I am using "localfile = new File(getActivity().getCacheDir() +"/" + name);" then "new FileOutputStream(localFile);" to write the file, but when I try to load the file into the webview it says it cant find it... what should I do!? Oct 26 18:24:04 I my main problem is that I am not able to tell the webview where to file the image that the fileoutstream wrote Oct 26 18:24:53 localFile.getAbsolutePath() Oct 26 18:25:34 localFile.exists() ? Oct 26 18:25:37 :) Oct 26 18:25:43 StingRay_: that is what I am doing :P Oct 26 18:25:50 StingRay_: webview says nono Oct 26 18:26:05 dunno about webviews Oct 26 18:26:13 use an imageView Oct 26 18:26:15 :) Oct 26 18:27:15 StingRay_: I wanna have the webview since it has soo many nice features, it animates gif, has automatic zoom Oct 26 18:30:27 is there an android API for storing application options, or should i just create my own, IE an sqlite db to store options Oct 26 18:30:46 outlaw84: It also eats memory for breakfast, lunch and dinner. A solution that isn't optimal, but works, would be to encode the image as base64 and just embed it directly Oct 26 18:31:07 rednovae: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/data-storage.html Oct 26 18:31:09 rednovae: shared preferences not enough? Oct 26 18:31:38