**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 28 02:59:58 2013 Oct 28 03:00:24 i have to admit, i'd like to put a nice camera on one for some tricky compositions Oct 28 03:00:35 but rather they are all outlawed ;) Oct 28 03:00:36 g00s: afaik legally it can only apply to ones treated as RC models Oct 28 03:01:27 there's a federal law regarding shooting airplanes since 1920s or earlier, I think Oct 28 03:02:40 but "drone hunters" don't scare me as much as the chemtrail idiots that want to shoot down airliners to get "the truth" Oct 28 03:03:36 i knew a chemtrail believer ... Oct 28 03:04:06 the truth is out there Oct 28 03:04:52 we just need to shoot enough airplanes to prove it Oct 28 03:04:55 totally off topic; i was reading how occult stuff is getting a resurgence http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/10/25/witches-brooklyn-williamsburg.html Oct 28 03:05:04 turns out, people believe in the craziest shit Oct 28 03:05:11 "chemtrails", a belief created when uneducated idiots look to the sky for the first time since birth Oct 28 03:07:01 <^cheeky> thats what i am going to do be a card reader !!! Oct 28 03:07:04 * g00s deploys drone to grab p_l awesome new laptop bwahahahaha Oct 28 03:07:41 g00s: it predictably loses power after getting lost near the east coast due to bad nav software :P Oct 28 03:07:42 <^cheeky> i want drone !!!!!!! Oct 28 03:07:49 <^cheeky> soo freakiing awsome1!!!!! Oct 28 03:08:14 ^cheeky: you can get the Parrot one, its pretty good Oct 28 03:09:09 <^cheeky> yeah, i was looking @ it , but umm a lil too expensive right now :P , so i just bought the remote control small helicopters to get that urge our of mu system cost me 20 bucks lol Oct 28 03:13:24 Hey guys, I have a ViewPager that causes an ANR when I call setCurrentItem() a few pages to the left. Ideas on how to troubleshoot? Oct 28 03:13:49 look at your anr trace Oct 28 03:13:50 fix it Oct 28 03:13:58 in /data/anr Oct 28 03:14:55 seems to be stuck in android.support.v4.view.ViewPager.setCurrentItemInternal(ViewPager.java:550) :/ Oct 28 03:15:26 you have an infinite loop Oct 28 03:16:14 i.e. you call setCurrentItem repeatedly without end Oct 28 03:16:25 <^cheeky> is it bad to use, the action bar icon to display the user icon and titla and subtitle in the view pagers, Oct 28 03:17:08 pfn, I call it only once. There's no loop or anything, and the logs confirm that it enters setCurrentItem but never gets out Oct 28 03:17:14 Max-P, wrong Oct 28 03:17:17 you have a loop Oct 28 03:17:34 you do something like setCurrentItem(n); onPageChange() { setCurrentItem(m); } Oct 28 03:18:02 ^cheeky, look at common design patterns and figure that out for yourself Oct 28 03:18:24 pfn, If I did that wouldn't it crash at every use of the pager? Oct 28 03:19:27 I can swipe the pages just fine. I have a button in my actionbar that allows to replace the viewpager to the default page. The onClick calls setCurrentItem() on the pager and that's about it Oct 28 03:20:06 can i have my listview draw a divider above the first item? Oct 28 03:20:17 <^cheeky> pfn: the reason i am asking if its bad, is because, the icon and the subtitle, are not synced with the image that i display , the pasgeStateAdapter creates three fragments. so this is why i dunno if its good idea to use it Oct 28 03:20:17 And it only does it when the page is on the left (target item < current) Oct 28 03:23:47 From the logs, I also know that it creates the pages properly (calls my instantiateItem() on the adapter), which reaches the return statement fine too Oct 28 03:25:05 g00s: there is a #Nexus7 channel here on freenode, I'm always there too Oct 28 03:25:07 p_l is a new world order chemtrail propagandist Oct 28 03:25:11 :) Oct 28 03:25:16 oh thanks shmooz :D Oct 28 03:26:50 Even better, sometimes if I'm patient enough, it will actually go through and switch to the correct page Oct 28 03:33:57 pfn, I think your guess is destroyed: if I setAdapter(exactSameAdapterInstance) (which resets it to 0) and then setCurrentItem like I do, it works perfect, there's no way I did an infinite loop if replacing the adapter works. Oct 28 03:34:40 kind of noob question, but is there a simple way to persist a model of objects between app loads, or am I going to have to marshal it into something like sqlite or saved preferences? Oct 28 03:34:50 Ologn: more like I'd be among likely deaths if some wackos went through such plan... Oct 28 03:35:11 (or first in line to slowly torture the perps, assuming the prison guards don't get to them first) Oct 28 03:41:54 wheee, finished doing great password update Oct 28 03:42:55 only 5 repeated passwords left Oct 28 03:44:11 p_l what are you using to hold your passwords ? Oct 28 03:46:30 Max-P, you're the one doing it wrong Oct 28 03:46:41 Max-P, and my guess isn't destroyed until you've proven otherwise Oct 28 03:46:48 g00s: LastPass Oct 28 03:55:13 pfn, It definitely hangs in the support library code. I've added logging to every single method of the associated adapter and use the bare minimum from the ViewPager (basically, new ViewPager() addView(mPager) setAdapter(mAdapter)). Oct 28 03:56:16 I'm reading ViewPager.java to figure out what the hell happens in there. For some reason, it doesn't like page 15981, almost like it scans them all in a n^2 algorithm Oct 28 03:59:54 page 15981 ? Oct 28 04:00:15 15k pages in a ViewPager ? Oct 28 04:00:39 OK... 15k pages... Oct 28 04:03:14 ... that sounds like asking for a crash Oct 28 04:03:52 *sigh* it's not mentionned in the documentation :/ Oct 28 04:04:06 I'll leave the cheap setAdapter fix there instead Oct 28 04:05:10 At least it works perfectly fine in one way, I'll leave a comment in the code. Oct 28 04:06:40 ... and roll my own ViewPager later that actually do support adapters of arbitrary sizes ._. Oct 28 04:06:51 im trying to get everything setup on a ubuntu so that I can start building but I need to intall Java so the virtual machine works ... do I need oracle java or will the open JDK work Oct 28 04:07:23 donavan01, Using OpenJDK 7 here, works perfectly fine. Oct 28 04:07:36 ok good deal thanks Oct 28 04:09:13 besides openjdk 7 and the SDK and eclipse is there any thing else I need that I have overlooked in the wiki Oct 28 04:10:36 im just trying to get going on this and havent read all that much but I want to get the right setup before I begin coding so I know that im not fighting a program missing something rather than trying to troubleshoot my coding errors Oct 28 04:11:16 donavan01, Not that I know of. If you run a 64bit computer you will need the 32bit libraries too (ia32-libs and the appropriate 32bit driver that matches your graphic card), but that's pretty much it Oct 28 04:12:15 donavan01: did you run SDK Manager and install stuff ? Oct 28 04:12:16 ok I am just using what ever it installed not sure if it even installed the correct ones for my card or just used generic drivers Oct 28 04:13:59 donavan01, I mentionned the drivers because I've seen people on the french ubuntu forums having trouble with it. Oct 28 04:14:13 donavan01: you also need to run AVD Manager and create a virtual device Oct 28 04:14:16 If it complains about opening libGL.so.1 then you miss appropriate video drivers Oct 28 04:15:08 not yet just got the system set up and dowloaded the adt bundle Oct 28 04:15:59 I was trying to follow what the wiki said but it assumes you already have everything installed and ready to go unless you jump about half way through Oct 28 04:17:01 what's that testing suite called that fires onClick methods for you ? Oct 28 04:19:33 trove4j is just so fucking awesome ;) Oct 28 04:21:03 when I start setting up should I go ahead and install different versions of the emulator and packages or only do that when I need something that it doesnt have Oct 28 04:21:30 you need at least one version of each Oct 28 04:22:09 installed in their Manager Oct 28 04:23:27 ok so just start with say ICS and if I need jellybean or GB Oct 28 04:23:28 then get the Oct 28 04:23:28 m Oct 28 04:23:50 well got to reboot ...java is isntalled Oct 28 04:23:56 I would pick the latest version 4.3 Oct 28 04:35:07 hmm, is there anything special that I have to do to install the NDK? the "android NDK dev guide" seems incomplete Oct 28 04:37:33 "anything else is not supported, including std::string or std::vector", i'm guessing the docs bundled with the NDK is severely out of date? Oct 28 04:39:23 ok will it hurt anything to include more version of the SDK than I really need .... would downloading all of them be advisable or stupid Oct 28 04:39:48 donavan01: you can download as many platform versions as you like, if that's what you mean Oct 28 04:40:20 not really ... I mean as a beginner is it going to be more confusing having all of them installed or better Oct 28 04:40:24 rurufufuss: without having ever used the NDK, the instructions on the website seem to consist of "download package, unpack package" Oct 28 04:40:31 I would pick the latest version 4.3 and maybe 2.2 for backwards compatibility Oct 28 04:41:01 Leeds: yeah, its docs says "installation guide: 1. make sure you have make, 2. precautions", and doesn't have 3. or 4. Oct 28 04:41:11 rurufufuss: do you have make? Oct 28 04:41:23 yeah, ran make, some other errors came up, no idea where I'm supposed to run make Oct 28 04:41:32 what about 2.3 and 4.0 ... do you have to have all the steps in between or what im not totally sure how that works Oct 28 04:41:55 it reads like the make is tryign to make an app, instead of installing the NDK itself Oct 28 04:42:27 to anyone that developed for both iOS and android, is android dev as rage-inducing as iOS dev is? Oct 28 04:42:55 donavan01: you should install any versions you intend to build/test against - it's up to you what those versions are Oct 28 04:43:39 rurufufuss: I'm just having a look - it takes a lot longer to unpack the NDK archive than to download it Oct 28 04:44:08 Leeds: thanks for that, I'm on day 1 of android dev Oct 28 04:44:41 rurufufuss: then you did read all the stuff about "you shouldn't be using the NDK unless you have a specific reason and you know what that reason is", right? Oct 28 04:44:58 Leeds: yep, porting a c++ codebase to android, not gonna redo everything in java Oct 28 04:45:07 oh well Oct 28 04:45:28 leeds so if I build it for ICS and froyo then in theory it might work for GB too but unless I have everything on there then I cant actually test it but it might work anyways or will it just not run Oct 28 04:46:44 rurufufuss: okay, exactly which instructions are you looking at? Oct 28 04:47:00 donavan01: you've read the docs about targeting API versions, right? Oct 28 04:47:14 Leeds: docs/INSTALL.html Oct 28 04:47:38 is it just me or it's missing section III, IV, etc? Oct 28 04:47:57 it only has two sections in the one I'm looking at - requirements, and "you used to have to do something, but you don't anymore" Oct 28 04:48:16 at this rate i'm tempted to just put that directory under my PATH and hope everything works Oct 28 04:48:35 GNU Make 3.81, a working Android SDK, and nawk/gawk Oct 28 04:48:38 yeah, exactly, it's like an unfinished first chapter of a novel Oct 28 04:48:41 leeds yeah though I didnt really get that part completely thus the question ... mainly my question is just ... should I just download all the SDKs and call it a day or is doing so going to confuse the crap out of me when I try to start coding Oct 28 04:48:42 um, no Oct 28 04:48:51 it's like instructions which are telling you you don't have to do anything Oct 28 04:49:07 donavan01: it doesn't make any fscking difference Oct 28 04:49:09 wonder if i can sendReliableRealTimeMessage to myself at little extra cost that short circuiting Oct 28 04:49:17 hmm Oct 28 04:49:26 must mean that installing the SDK is all that is needed then Oct 28 04:49:28 leeds ... good enough Oct 28 04:49:34 may as well try and then curse google if fails Oct 28 04:49:34 donavan01: you're just saying "should I download stuff I might not need, or wait until I find out I need it?" Oct 28 04:49:48 more or less Oct 28 04:50:15 so decide what you think you need, download what you need, feel free to go back and download more later Oct 28 04:51:22 but its not going to make things more complicated for me having it all just offer more choices Oct 28 04:51:32 correct? Oct 28 04:51:51 maybe you should go (back?) to iOS, if you get easily confused by too many choices Oct 28 04:52:00 decide what you need Oct 28 04:52:02 download what you need Oct 28 04:52:05 if you find you need more Oct 28 04:52:06 download more Oct 28 04:52:10 not fscking complicated Oct 28 04:52:23 argh Oct 28 04:52:38 donavan01: select 4.3 and 2.2, because I told you to Oct 28 04:52:40 ios ... dear god you couldnt pay me to use an iphone Oct 28 04:53:04 shmooz ....heheh ... not really what I was going to for but ok Oct 28 04:53:14 heh, i've heard the opposite on #iphonedev Oct 28 04:53:16 but I digress Oct 28 04:55:04 sorry to sound like a complete ass here but i just remember learning C++in borland and if it add the wrong things to your enfvironment it cause you giant head aches ... I just wanted the most clean but best setup so when I use tutorials and all im not getting into issues because I installed something extra or some weirdness like that Oct 28 04:55:43 thanks for they help and the advice Oct 28 04:56:04 donavan01: also install everything in the +Extras folder Oct 28 04:56:35 you'll need it all eventually Oct 28 04:56:42 thanks Oct 28 04:57:50 well im off to catch my router on fire downloading all this... night all and thanks again for dealing with my noobishness (if thats even a word) Oct 28 05:55:23 hmm, is the android emulator meant to run at a choppy frame rate, or is there something i'm missing? Oct 28 05:56:14 rurufufuss: check if you have hw GL acceleration enabled as well if you are using x86 emulator image Oct 28 05:56:34 p_l: thanks, will try that Oct 28 06:47:25 is dl-ssl.google.com down for anyone else? Oct 28 06:47:39 no Oct 28 06:47:50 redirects to https://www.google.com/intl/de/chrome/browser/ though Oct 28 06:48:12 hmm, my android sdk manager is trying to fetch from it Oct 28 06:48:19 but somehow I can't access it Oct 28 06:48:29 could it be crappy australian internet :/ Oct 28 06:48:45 the host is definitely reachable Oct 28 06:49:06 I can't even ping it Oct 28 06:49:07 hmm Oct 28 06:53:05 updating sdk as I type Oct 28 06:53:28 I am totally blaming australian internet Oct 28 06:53:43 good for 'em mate ;-) Oct 28 06:53:47 might have to configure a tunnel :/ Oct 28 06:54:09 wait for some hours, who know you may get through Oct 28 06:54:28 rurufufuss: try changin your DNS server Oct 28 06:54:30 yeah I guess that's all I can do Oct 28 06:54:40 shmooz: will do that after dinner I guess Oct 28 06:55:24 nice point shmooz, I missed it :-( Oct 28 06:56:00 nice as in worth giving a try Oct 28 06:56:18 yeah sometimes it works Oct 28 06:56:36 not always ;) Oct 28 06:57:03 but in his case it might Oct 28 06:57:35 Looney: did you make that guy's app for him ? Oct 28 06:57:45 he ain't in some country where YouTube/(some Google service) is blocked, so it is highly likely it will work Oct 28 06:57:54 welll gave him a demo Oct 28 06:58:03 but he did not seem legit Oct 28 06:58:04 cool Oct 28 06:58:10 so I pulled the connection plug Oct 28 06:58:16 doh! Oct 28 06:58:24 hesistant in showing $ Oct 28 06:58:36 luckily, I sensed it Oct 28 06:58:54 claimed to be on payroll of Carlos Slim Oct 28 06:59:04 thats what gave him up Oct 28 06:59:17 who's that? some mafia boss ? Oct 28 06:59:56 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Slim Oct 28 07:00:42 omg you just missed out on billions of dollars ! Oct 28 07:01:15 apparantly yeah, but hell no Oct 28 07:01:52 well, keep waiting ... maybe Bill Gates will show up and ask us to do an app Oct 28 07:02:29 hehehe Oct 28 07:02:54 as if he could not hire someone in person that he would turn to IRC Oct 28 07:07:44 advice for you is to stay away from likes of him Oct 28 07:23:13 hello! I have a problem with reading files Oct 28 07:24:12 tried putting your glasses on? Oct 28 07:24:17 I'm doing Intent viewoIntent = new Intent(Intent.ACTION_GET_CONTENT); Oct 28 07:24:28 and then starting the activyty for result Oct 28 07:25:07 and when I get the result and do this.file = new File(resultIntent.getData().getPath()) Oct 28 07:25:17 then this.file.exists() yields false Oct 28 07:25:58 even though getPath() returns something like '/external/..../12345 Oct 28 07:29:22 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19629013/genymotion-unable-to-load-virtualbox-engine-on-mavericks-vbox-is-setup-corr Oct 28 07:29:28 Hey, assuming I had an expansion file (.obb) which contained multiple sound clips is it possible to set the ring tone of the device to one of those clips without 'recreating' the file outside of the .obb and storing it somewhere else? If it is can anyone give me some advice about how to tackle it/point me in the direction of some resources that will help? Thanks in advance. Oct 28 07:32:04 Zulandia: that can't be done, the OS needs the file to be somewhere on the device storage Oct 28 07:32:29 just put the file in your app space maybe nstead of .obb Oct 28 07:33:15 That's what I thought unfortunately, thanks for the reply :) Oct 28 07:35:06 hi, does rild service can restart through property_set ("ctl.restart", "ril-daemon")? Oct 28 07:53:49 Hey Guys, I have multi-pane UI for andorid, I want to make customize Actionbar for left and right pane differently Oct 28 07:53:58 is there a easy way to go about it Oct 28 07:57:11 hi all Oct 28 08:46:25 Is it recomended to return a new reference to a view in onCreateInput view of an IME sub'd class each time it is called? Or is there some way to call removeView on the parent that holds the returned view for the ime? Oct 28 09:03:51 Anyone know if on a rotation the soft keyboard is supposed to be redisplayed automatically by android or is that the job of the activity containing the input view? Oct 28 09:31:03 I have a custom view where if i drag my finger outside of the custom view, it'll project the x,y coordinates onto the custom view and return those for ACTION_UP. What is the way (without listening to ACTION_MOVE) to detect when a pointer moves outside of the custom view's bounds? Oct 28 09:32:16 Guess I could just ignore all coordinates within a distance of the ltrb perimeter Oct 28 09:56:42 be,, Oct 28 09:56:44 hello Oct 28 09:57:09 is there any way to add margin to a button at top within a list? Oct 28 09:58:19 Hi! I'm planning to implement log-to-file functionality and I'm wondering is it best to have an opened file handle across an app's lifetime (close() on exit) or do a series of micro open()-write()-close() stuff on a file stream? Oct 28 10:00:31 do open in onResume() and close in onPause()? Oct 28 10:01:18 hokkaido: well, i'm not necessarily talking about activities. Logging is an app-wide thing, may be needed in helper classes. Oct 28 10:01:36 ok. forget what I said. Oct 28 10:02:13 :) not sure how this is done (forgetting), but it might happen :) Oct 28 10:03:25 If I connect a compatible DSLR camera with a compatible Android phone with USD OTG, is there an easy way to copy the pictures as they are taken by the camera? I don't need to control the camera in any way, I only need to access(read) new pictures as they are stored onto the SD card. Oct 28 10:05:18 keep a cached copy of filelist and poll for the changes? Oct 28 10:05:33 that is a bit ineffective, but should do to job? Oct 28 10:05:40 to->the Oct 28 10:05:42 I don't have a Android with OTG so I cannot test this. I'm wondering if it's as easy as reading files in a folder, or if I need to use some PTP mumbo jumbo such as this: https://gitorious.org/agphoto2 ((yet unfinished) gphoto2 port for android) Oct 28 10:06:13 hokkaido: Was that a reply to me? Oct 28 10:07:03 yes. Oct 28 10:07:17 "is there an easy way to copy the pictures as they are taken by the camera" Oct 28 10:07:24 that was my suggestion to this part Oct 28 10:07:37 see changes in the list of files and copy the added files Oct 28 10:07:56 hokkaido: So you mean I can operate the camera normally and at the same time easily access the files from the phone? Oct 28 10:08:00 does anyone know is there some limitations for file uploads that need to be configured? Oct 28 10:08:14 it seems my file uploads always hang somewhere between 4-5 megabytes Oct 28 10:08:30 murple: I wonder. that depends on camera? Oct 28 10:08:46 that does it go into file transfer mode when usb is plugged in or not. Oct 28 10:09:15 hokkaido: You see, I asked the same question in #android and they said it didn't work this way. The camera's SD card would not mount as a standard file system, because that would risk corruption or something. I'll see if I can find a quote. Oct 28 10:10:43 hokkaido: See this exerpt: http://pastebin.com/R9aDHNLG Oct 28 10:10:49 well. plug your camera into your computer in that mode and see can you take pictures when you're transferring them into your computer. Oct 28 10:11:03 if it does, then you perhaps could do it with your android device too. Oct 28 10:11:27 I think you have the bits and pieces needed to answer to your question? Oct 28 10:12:21 murple: https://developer.android.com/reference/android/mtp/MtpDevice.html Oct 28 10:12:30 have you tried to read the api documentation? Oct 28 10:14:00 hokkaido: You mean the API documentation you just linked to? It's the first time I've seen it, I noticed some google results refered to MtpDevice but wasn't sure what it was. Oct 28 10:14:48 murple: I recommend to use api documentation instead of google as your first stopping point for information regarding to android programming. Oct 28 10:15:41 for example: https://developer.android.com/reference/android/mtp/MtpObjectInfo.html Oct 28 10:15:47 hokkaido: Understood. Well, if this is some native functionality which can access the device with PTP I think I might have found a feasibly solution Oct 28 10:15:52 hokkaido: I was just reading up on https://developer.android.com/reference/android/mtp/MtpDevice.html#importFile(int, java.lang.String) Oct 28 10:15:55 see with getProtectionStatus() what is the status for the image that you just shot Oct 28 10:16:40 I can't quarantee that the camera doesn't return an incompletely written image to you. Oct 28 10:16:47 so you just have to try what happens. Oct 28 10:17:04 when you get that far in your project. Oct 28 10:17:36 hokkaido: I agree, it seems like android.mtp is exactly what I need. Oct 28 10:18:21 it seems like using this is quite straght forward, that you could have some experience in few hours. Oct 28 10:19:32 hokkaido: Right. Well, that translates to days and weeks for me since this will be my first App, but that's fine. If this is the "right way" to do this, then I might also be able to find some tutorials or at least some similar examples elsewhere online. Oct 28 10:19:41 hokkaido: Part of my problem was finding the right information. Oct 28 10:20:14 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19632159/is-there-a-maximum-size-limit-in-android-file-uploads Oct 28 10:21:51 hokkaido: Thank you so much for your help. Oct 28 10:22:16 murple: np Oct 28 10:22:41 my list view shows some white background when scrolling. How to fix that? I tried setting the cacheColorHint to transparent but had no effects Oct 28 10:22:42 hokkaido: Can you fix my damaged Raspberry Pi now so I can finish my previous project and get started on this one? Oct 28 10:32:13 hokkaido: I was just kidding with that last question.... Oct 28 10:59:19 murple: sure, I can offer consulting for 100€/hour + other expenses. Oct 28 10:59:31 :D Oct 28 11:09:28 hokkaido: Deal! Oct 28 11:15:25 hi Oct 28 11:15:37 how do I list my app as being able to open image files? Oct 28 11:16:19 Jonno_FTW: https://developer.android.com/training/sharing/receive.html Oct 28 11:16:25 ty Oct 28 11:16:27 Oct 28 11:21:27 yo yo Oct 28 11:21:28 helo Oct 28 11:22:04 i need some help hopfully one of you can guide me Oct 28 11:22:15 im haveing issue with this supports screen manifest tag Oct 28 11:22:17 Oct 28 11:23:32 for some reason it returns me the new nexus 7s and the sony xperiaZ which is expected but then it also returns me the old Samsung Galaxy Note with it aswell which has a totally different screen resolution Oct 28 11:24:04 i was hopeing maby someone can help me find the correct dp configurations for this Oct 28 11:24:09 http://www.wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Flo_Info Oct 28 11:24:21 and for http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_i717-4374.php Oct 28 11:24:23 that Oct 28 11:24:32 please i would really appretiate it Oct 28 11:25:03 i know with the old nexus 7 i could do Oct 28 11:25:04 Oct 28 11:25:24 but what would be the correct one for this nexus 7 without includeing all those galaxy tabs? Oct 28 11:25:33 sorry the galaxy notse Oct 28 11:26:34 any 1 have any dea? Oct 28 11:37:08 javaDon: what's the problem with galaxy note screen? it's almost 6" and 285 ppi Oct 28 11:37:38 yes but that one has a 1280 by 800 resolution Oct 28 11:38:08 im talking about these notes Oct 28 11:38:09 http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_i717-4374.php Oct 28 11:38:15 the older ones Oct 28 11:39:11 the older nexus 7 also has 1280x800 resolution Oct 28 11:39:34 you want to support only the new nexus 7 ? Oct 28 11:39:36 but why Oct 28 11:41:09 javaDon: You should not care about px resolution, really. You should check against dp resolution. Oct 28 11:41:30 Not that it would solve your original problem, I suppose. Oct 28 11:48:08 how would I rewrite this that incomingIntent is properly instantiated? http://pastebin.ws/3a10cj Oct 28 12:01:05 i am checking against dp Oct 28 12:02:00 but the problem is that the tag of android:screenDensity="xhdpi" android:screenSize="large" /> returns 2 different dp sizes Oct 28 12:02:07 i need to know the dp for Oct 28 12:02:12 http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_i717-4374.php Oct 28 12:02:15 and the dp for Oct 28 12:02:25 http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Flo_Info Oct 28 12:02:55 in other words what is the correct dp measurement fo Oct 28 12:02:55 http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Flo_Info Oct 28 12:03:21 and to answer your question icedp i want to suppot both with different apks Oct 28 12:05:39 any1 know the correct screenDensity mesurment for the nexus 7 flo? Oct 28 12:08:07 android has hit the tipping point Oct 28 12:08:27 Hi android Dev, I'm using gradle with a complex suite of android and android libraries projects with dependencies. When I try and assemble I am getting Unexpected Top level exception, already added com/google/common/annotations. I know this is something to do with the classpath having dupilicates but I dont know how to diagnose which ones or how to fix it Oct 28 12:08:36 stack overflow is full of obviously non-english speakers who have never attempted to learn basic java before jumping into android Oct 28 12:09:05 Clockworkant: might you have that library already in /libs and have it required in gradle? Oct 28 12:10:12 javaDon: can you try screendensity="213" (specific value) Oct 28 12:10:26 javaDon: * android:screenDensity="213" Oct 28 12:12:15 icedp thats for the smaller nexus 7 devices Oct 28 12:12:37 i need for the 1920 by 1200 ones Oct 28 12:14:03 javaDon: then calculate or google the value Oct 28 12:14:18 i tried i cant figure it out Oct 28 12:14:24 oh I see Oct 28 12:14:26 mikedg: I've just checked my projects and only one uses a libs dir to include a jar, and its our own jar so shouldnt cause an issue Oct 28 12:14:50 are there any gradle tools to show me what dependencies its trying to merge or add twice Oct 28 12:14:55 javaDon: did you try 323 Oct 28 12:16:40 Clockworkant: not sure, i keep bouncing back and forth between gradle and no gradle Oct 28 12:18:16 hmm, well the issue I'm having is with Guava. Its used in multple library projects I am referencing. And appears to crash the build with already added Oct 28 12:18:53 i did not icedp i will try right now thank you Oct 28 12:19:26 i have a request... can i obscure my code? ok there is porguard but is it sufficient? Oct 28 12:20:39 icedp i got a You included an invalid line in your AndroidManifest.xml: 400/323 Oct 28 12:21:14 javaDon: strange... you just changed the value, right? Oct 28 12:21:32 javaDon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_displays_by_pixel_density I've got info from here ) Oct 28 12:23:48 icedp i used Oct 28 12:24:22 javaDon: seems right, strange Oct 28 12:25:41 nope didnt work many its close? Oct 28 12:25:58 now you know why i need help with this Oct 28 12:26:19 also funny i also was looking through that list Oct 28 12:28:15 javaDon: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/manifest/supports-screens-element.html#requiresSmallest can that help? Oct 28 12:28:39 thanks but no i read through that like a miilion times Oct 28 12:30:35 i think it might be 326 Oct 28 12:30:53 no its 323 Oct 28 12:30:55 arg Oct 28 12:35:03 ok it just got way worse Oct 28 12:35:07 i just used a Oct 28 12:36:15 Oct 28 12:36:21 that one worked Oct 28 12:36:31 but im still getting the old galaxy notes Oct 28 12:37:21 What is the requirement? The width of the screen or height or both? Oct 28 12:37:36 both Oct 28 12:38:02 i have 2 different apks 1 is set for the 1280 by 800s and one is set for the 1920 by 1200s Oct 28 12:38:07 What about required widht/height? Oct 28 12:38:14 ah. Oct 28 12:38:53 an when i use that tag i get a mixture of 1280 by 1800s and 1920 by 1200s Oct 28 12:44:17 any1 else have any input or help for me please Oct 28 12:44:32 Necessary for two apk's insead of just different layouts? Oct 28 12:46:59 yes Oct 28 12:47:28 this is a game the file size would be way to big Oct 28 12:47:32 its only 21 devices Oct 28 12:47:44 got ya. Oct 28 12:47:46 is there a way to specificly support a device from within you manifes Oct 28 12:47:52 t Oct 28 12:55:53 hello when my device has power save on wifi Oct 28 12:55:54 i get this Oct 28 12:56:00 http://i.imgur.com/FXG6oLL.png Oct 28 12:59:30 javaDon: maybe an option for you to go would be using APK Extension Files ? Oct 28 13:00:55 s//Expansion/ Oct 28 13:03:36 and use just 1 apk? Oct 28 13:03:53 but would it still download both assets? Oct 28 13:06:40 javaDon: http://developer.android.com/google/play/expansion-files.html#Downloading there is possibility to download them from your app on request. so your app could start, determine the device and choose which file to download Oct 28 13:08:36 thats an option Oct 28 13:08:58 but id rathor not make people wait befor they start there game Oct 28 13:09:10 it would make a 1 step process into a 2 Oct 28 13:09:14 first download Oct 28 13:09:17 now download again? Oct 28 13:09:21 tomuch Oct 28 13:09:37 javaDon: it won't be any longer by stopwatch but I agree with your point Oct 28 13:16:54 Is it still true that onStop() _may not_ be called? Oct 28 13:17:30 Can I hide the heap space stuff in the bottom? Oct 28 13:17:33 at the bottom Oct 28 13:24:22 is there a similar service to testflightapp for android? or do people just send out a mail "hey guize new .apk is out plz download it"? Oct 28 13:34:22 rurufufuss: Android has beta communities you can setup Oct 28 13:34:26 we use those internally Oct 28 13:35:17 hmm, I see Oct 28 13:35:29 looks like testflightapp itself supports android, silly me Oct 28 13:38:52 hello Oct 28 13:42:44 hi Oct 28 13:42:53 i need some help please Oct 28 13:43:09 Oct 28 13:43:28 that tag is being atrocias to me right now Oct 28 13:45:57 its giving me support for devices with 2 different resolution Oct 28 13:46:08 1920 by 1200 and for 1280 by 800 Oct 28 13:46:18 its weird i cant figure it out Oct 28 13:49:21 and i get the same eact results for Oct 28 13:49:22 Oct 28 13:49:30 eact = exact Oct 28 13:54:01 sorry for asking twice i just noticed that there has been allot of ne users that logged on Oct 28 14:01:10 i could really really use some help here evrything ive tried keeps leading to these devices being bunched into the same category Oct 28 14:01:35 heres my delema Oct 28 14:02:37 i have 7 apks built all to target different device densitys and resolutions the reason i have to split it up into 7 apks is because this is a game and the resources for all the different resolutions would make the file size way to big Oct 28 14:02:51 so i have seperated it into 7 Oct 28 14:03:31 now i have the correct tags set in place across all the different device densitys and resolution this is the only tag that is giveing me problems Oct 28 14:04:02 javaDon: Both devices are xhdp with large devices. Oct 28 14:04:14 xhdpi, I mean. Oct 28 14:04:32 javaDon: can you this version for new nexus 7 then, but use screenDensity="213" for older version Oct 28 14:05:48 javaDon: According to my calculations, the note's DPI is 285, while Nexus is 323. Oct 28 14:08:00 whenever I receive a push notification, and my app is open (onstart on stop counters) I am trying to create a dialog from the onMessage method.. Oct 28 14:08:14 when i use 323 and 285 i get an incompatible tag use from the dev console Oct 28 14:08:34