**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 22 03:00:00 2013
Nov 22 03:00:03 <Netgodddd> Sorry, bankai_..., and to you as well Leeds, but I'm at a loss.
Nov 22 03:00:13 <Leeds> at a loss with what?
Nov 22 03:02:29 <Netgodddd> I have a huawei h866c here, with a corrupted os (Gingerbread 2.3.6). I'm in need of help with trying to find a stock ROM.
Nov 22 03:02:44 <Leeds> yup, wrong channel
Nov 22 03:02:45 <bankai_> could have just started with that ...
Nov 22 03:02:46 <Leeds> :)
Nov 22 03:03:00 * Netgodddd sighs
Nov 22 03:03:09 <Netgodddd> Thanks then
Nov 22 03:03:10 <bankai_> read the topic, kiddo :)
Nov 22 03:03:19 <Leeds> Netgodddd: you could try #android-root, but don't expect too much... otherwise, you're probably going to end up trawling xda-developers, or just lots of
Nov 22 03:03:26 <Leeds> oh... didn't want advice then
Nov 22 03:03:45 <bankai_> haha
Nov 22 03:08:44 <piracyd3> hey guys
Nov 22 03:12:13 <desmin88> hi
Nov 22 03:12:50 <piracyd3> I have a question here, can I ask here?
Nov 22 03:13:15 <XXCoder2> no
Nov 22 03:14:22 <desmin88> you get 1 question
Nov 22 03:14:24 <desmin88> u just used it
Nov 22 03:14:26 <desmin88> sorry
Nov 22 03:15:54 <XXCoder2> seriously though dont ask to ask
Nov 22 03:18:04 <piracyd3> lol kidding. So I'm building an app for user to upload their photos and get Rate/Comment. Question is how do I make the comment/like system?
Nov 22 03:18:31 <piracyd3> Just started learning a month ago. Too newbie :(
Nov 22 03:18:32 <XXCoder2> I'm pretty sure there is 100 packages like that already
Nov 22 03:18:49 <XXCoder2> but then android
Nov 22 03:18:53 <desmin88> that is super nebulous of a question
Nov 22 03:19:35 <piracyd3> Really? I found Socialize, but it's too complicated for me.
Nov 22 03:19:52 <piracyd3> And I don't want the comment to be shared on facebook etc
Nov 22 03:20:53 <piracyd3> I have no idea on how to make it from scratch. But I already have the user management system. So I might just use that of course.
Nov 22 03:29:22 <Leeds> piracyd3: are you asking how to make the server side, how to communicate, how to implement a rating/comment interface, all of the above?
Nov 22 03:30:38 <piracyd3> Not the full code though I know you guys wouldn't help me with that.
Nov 22 03:30:45 <piracyd3> Well at least the algorithm is fie
Nov 22 03:30:47 <piracyd3> fine*
Nov 22 03:31:16 <Leeds> what algorithm?
Nov 22 03:31:26 <desmin88> lol
Nov 22 03:32:27 <piracyd3> I have come up with a table in db which has comment(varchar), from_user_id(int), to_photo_id(int). Which basically maps which user comments to which photo
Nov 22 03:33:28 <desmin88> that doesnt look very good
Nov 22 03:34:12 <durka42> why not? I too am somewhat of a db noob
Nov 22 03:34:27 <piracyd3> I don't know if it works in a long term
Nov 22 03:38:31 <Leeds> nothing wrong with that, I think
Nov 22 03:39:49 <desmin88> i would do a document store
Nov 22 03:39:53 <ficklepickle> can anyone help me make it so my java app will listen for a key press (physical buttons, not softkeys) and then handle it?
Nov 22 03:39:57 <desmin88> photo { comments {} }
Nov 22 03:40:06 <ficklepickle> sample code?
Nov 22 03:40:14 <ficklepickle> without a text box
Nov 22 03:40:38 <ficklepickle> (edittext)
Nov 22 03:40:49 <piracyd3> desmin88: yeah, json exchange would be good in this case. thanks
Nov 22 03:41:51 <piracyd3> ficklepickle: onItemClick() with some layout id blabla
Nov 22 03:42:17 <piracyd3> eh wait, physical buttons?
Nov 22 03:42:22 <ficklepickle> yes
Nov 22 03:42:34 <ficklepickle> like do something when i press middle button, or volume buttons
Nov 22 03:43:44 <desmin88> ficklepickle: google "android detect hardware menu button"
Nov 22 03:44:37 <Leeds> ficklepickle: presumably you mean while your app is running, not all the time?
Nov 22 03:44:59 <ficklepickle> while its running
Nov 22 03:45:06 <Dragonya> Jebus writing javadocs takes a long time o.O
Nov 22 03:45:14 <Dragonya> i should really get into the habit of writing them as i go
Nov 22 03:54:22 <durka42> repeating question from before… what's a good way for a service to hold a wakelock, now that screen_bright_wake_lock etc are deprecated?
Nov 22 04:21:28 <desmin88> son of a gun having so much trouble with this retrofit
Nov 22 04:25:21 <XXCoder2> is there such thing as opengl for android?
Nov 22 04:25:55 <desmin88> sure why not
Nov 22 04:26:03 <durka42> yes
Nov 22 04:26:16 <XXCoder2> interesting
Nov 22 04:26:53 <Leeds> did you consider doing the slightest bit of research - like, say, putting exactly that question into Bing - before asking?
Nov 22 04:27:17 <XXCoder2> leeds my internet access is effed up now
Nov 22 04:27:24 <XXCoder2> around 24k speed
Nov 22 04:27:40 <XXCoder2> and I am already downloading rather large file (for that connection speed)
Nov 22 04:27:42 <desmin88> he didnt even bing it
Nov 22 04:27:59 <Leeds> ah, and that makes IRC your search engine... cool
Nov 22 04:28:00 <XXCoder2> so yes I normally google
Nov 22 04:28:10 <desmin88> lol <3 u Leeds
Nov 22 04:28:21 <durka42> whaddayaknow, google images has a license filter
Nov 22 04:28:58 <seand> how do i fetch a drawable in java code by theme?
Nov 22 04:29:17 <ficklepickle> what function tells me how many things are in an array?
Nov 22 04:29:26 <ficklepickle> * in java
Nov 22 04:29:43 <ficklepickle> i know in python it's len(array)
Nov 22 04:29:54 <Leeds> ficklepickle: fscking google it
Nov 22 04:30:05 <desmin88> are u srs.
Nov 22 04:30:07 <desmin88> srs.
Nov 22 04:30:11 <seand> .length dude
Nov 22 04:30:16 <desmin88> thats java 101
Nov 22 04:30:51 <desmin88> guys how do i start my pc?
Nov 22 04:33:15 <XXCoder2> how do I type on keyboard
Nov 22 04:33:24 <desmin88> but u just.
Nov 22 04:33:29 <Leeds> how is babby formed?
Nov 22 04:33:36 <XXCoder2> lol
Nov 22 04:34:48 <desmin88> omfg Leeds
Nov 22 04:34:50 <desmin88> <3
Nov 22 04:34:56 <Leeds> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll-lia-FEIY in case anyone hasn't seen it :)
Nov 22 04:35:07 <bankai_> i'm scared to click on that after your last comment
Nov 22 04:36:04 <XXCoder2> I have tough guts and brain but my internet access is lacking
Nov 22 04:37:54 <XXCoder2> 23 minutes to download 24 mb file bah
Nov 22 04:38:02 <XXCoder2> thats with 7 mb done
Nov 22 04:38:16 <Leeds> XXCoder2: 1 second me for, if I can get a good link :P
Nov 22 04:38:18 <bankai_> gee where are you, australia ?
Nov 22 04:39:20 <XXCoder2> bank nah just effed up network. I'm using my phone connection. its barely getting 3g so that dont help either
Nov 22 04:39:53 <XXCoder2> reminds me of days I had to wait 2-3 hours for 4 mb file lol
Nov 22 04:51:06 <durka42> lol, fragments have onCreateView and onViewCreated? that's not confusing at all
Nov 22 04:51:37 <XXCoder2> think thats initial create and after its done
Nov 22 04:51:40 <XXCoder2> but then I'm probably wrong
Nov 22 04:54:01 <durka42> you're probably right
Nov 22 04:54:07 <durka42> I say it's pretty bad word choice though
Nov 22 05:13:27 <XXCoder2> durka42: yeah what would be better though?
Nov 22 05:17:34 <durka42> yeah I dunno I guess
Nov 22 05:17:47 <durka42> maybe onBeforeCreate and onDoneCreating or onAfterCreate
Nov 22 05:18:29 <XXCoder2> add View then maybe.
Nov 22 05:22:23 <pepigno75> up :)
Nov 22 05:23:57 <seand> what is the java equivalent of ?attr/my_image  ?
Nov 22 05:24:45 <g00s> pfn did you ever put qicr on github?
Nov 22 05:31:12 <durka42> wait is this legal
Nov 22 05:31:13 <desmin88> great scott i think ive got it.
Nov 22 05:31:14 <durka42> YourActivity.this.setListAdapter(adapter);
Nov 22 05:31:17 <durka42> how can that possibly work
Nov 22 05:33:59 <desmin88> try it out
Nov 22 05:35:31 <desmin88> k guess not still cant get this to work
Nov 22 05:38:15 <desmin88> i dont think ill be able to use retrofit as much as i want to
Nov 22 05:39:28 <pepigno75> I'd like show text and icon in option menu, is it possibile?
Nov 22 05:50:56 <g00s> desmin88 there's only like several hundred rest clients; try another ;)
Nov 22 05:51:43 <desmin88> true.
Nov 22 05:52:17 <desmin88> ok 1 more try
Nov 22 05:52:57 <g00s> here's one i pulled out of my butt http://docs.spring.io/spring-android/docs/1.0.x/reference/html/rest-template.html
Nov 22 05:53:24 <desmin88> eww i dont want to touch it then
Nov 22 05:53:31 <g00s> :)
Nov 22 05:54:41 <seand> hey, if i have R.drawable.search_dark and R.drawable.search_light for holo dark/light themes, how do i make an R.drawable.search that's accessible depending on the theme?
Nov 22 05:54:49 <desmin88> well i got it working, but its quite ugly.
Nov 22 05:55:21 <desmin88> seand: have one drawable with a color thats a ?attribute that is in your theme
Nov 22 05:55:48 <seand> these are icons
Nov 22 05:55:57 <desmin88> oh.
Nov 22 06:00:05 <desmin88> then i dont know :p
Nov 22 06:01:59 <damccull> a project in C# that I'm using as reference for my project has a class converting ASCII to Unicode. Why would I want to do this?
Nov 22 06:10:13 <seand> this is ridiculous, why is it so hard to find out how to do this
Nov 22 06:12:35 <canvs2321> seand: where are you setting your theme?
Nov 22 06:12:45 <seand> androidmanifest
Nov 22 06:13:11 <canvs2321> then base your choice on the theme you are choosing
Nov 22 06:13:14 <alankila> damccull: that is not possible for us to say. The reason is not in what it does, the reason is in how it fits into the larger whole.
Nov 22 06:13:42 <seand> canvs2321: the idea is to provide 2 themes which the user can switch between
Nov 22 06:13:48 <damccull> alankila: I see...if I tell you it takes text from a mud/telnet server and displays it in a window, does the context help?
Nov 22 06:14:18 <canvs2321> well if you are in control of the switch, why not the choice of light/dark search too?
Nov 22 06:14:28 <alankila> only very mildly. This is why java has stuff like 'new String(bytearray, coding)'
Nov 22 06:14:49 <damccull> alankila: Ok. thanks :) I'll look at it
Nov 22 06:15:00 <seand> canvs2321: i don't understand what you're saying
Nov 22 06:15:08 <alankila> when you receive data from the network, it is a byte stream. If you want to display it, you must turn it into a string. There is generally two ways to do it, by a reader API, or by direct conversions like this.
Nov 22 06:15:32 <damccull> seand: he's saying that you should be able to define the icon to use inside of your style/theme xml file
Nov 22 06:15:33 <alankila> java strings are always in unicode, technically utf-16.
Nov 22 06:15:44 <canvs2321> i'm saying if you have it as an option to change themes, then when you are changing themes you have your light/dark search icon set in the theme you are loading
Nov 22 06:16:03 <alankila> in order to convert between byte data and unicode strings, a coding is required. This coding is guessed from your environment if you do not provide it, but as a rule of thumb it can always be provided.
Nov 22 06:16:09 <seand> canvs2321: that is my question. how do i access the icon based on the theme in java code
Nov 22 06:16:21 <damccull> alankila: I see! Thanks, that's very helpful
Nov 22 06:16:34 <seand> in xml it's easy: style="?attr/icon"
Nov 22 06:17:38 <damccull> seand: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13735675/change-drawable-based-on-theme
Nov 22 06:17:55 <damccull> seand: you should use xml whenever possible in android
Nov 22 06:17:57 <seand> damccull: that is xml
Nov 22 06:18:27 <damccull> seand: why do you not just build two theme files, and then select one with java code?
Nov 22 06:18:31 <seand> i'm passing this icon into a MatrixCursor for a SearchView
Nov 22 06:19:40 <pfn> g00s, yes
Nov 22 06:20:38 <damccull> no idea what that means. Try using getTheme() in conjunction with instance of or some other object comparison and then just a simple if will do it
Nov 22 06:21:16 <Blou_Aap> my auto importing doesnt work in Android Studio
Nov 22 06:21:17 <pfn> g00s, https://github.com/pfn/qicr
Nov 22 06:21:25 <Blou_Aap> any one have same issue ? or way to fi it ?
Nov 22 06:21:38 <seand> damccull: are you saying compare getTheme() to my light/dark theme and hardcode the respective drawable ids in the java code?
Nov 22 06:21:48 <Blou_Aap> I have to go to every error and cmd+1 to import each one
Nov 22 06:21:59 <damccull> seand: something like that yes
Nov 22 06:22:07 <damccull> now, whether getTheme() exists or no, I hav eno idea.
Nov 22 06:22:27 <seand> damccull: i considered that but i know there's a correct way to do it
Nov 22 06:22:49 <damccull> seand: the correct way is to use xml themes and let it load the resource dynamically
Nov 22 06:23:26 <seand> damccull: i'm pretty sure you can't use xml in this case
Nov 22 06:23:43 <damccull> i don't know of a UI element in android that can't be defined in xml
Nov 22 06:24:07 <seand> damccull: let me introduce you to one, it's called http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/SearchManager.html#SUGGEST_COLUMN_ICON_1
Nov 22 06:24:10 <damccull> unless maybe you're drawing to a surfaceview :)
Nov 22 06:24:19 <damccull> learnin' time hang on
Nov 22 06:25:22 <damccull> hmm. is this the thing that searches my apps from the google search bar?
Nov 22 06:25:53 <seand> probably the same component... it's used for search autocomplete results
Nov 22 06:26:18 <damccull> seand: i suggest storing a sharedpreference with the currently chosen theme, and then sending the icon based off the result
Nov 22 06:26:18 <pfn> but that can be..
Nov 22 06:26:42 <damccull> pfn can be what?
Nov 22 06:28:35 <g00s> pfn cool thanks; wanted to take a look at the service that manages all the irc connections
Nov 22 06:33:08 <desmin88> hmm
Nov 22 06:33:20 <desmin88> forget appcompat, im just going to use minsdk14
Nov 22 06:35:18 <dck28> Hi, is there a way to set up a daemon on Android studio and do get fetch every 30 mins for example?
Nov 22 06:35:33 <dck28> git* fetch
Nov 22 06:38:45 <Blou_Aap> anyone have any idea why optimize imports dont do anything ?
Nov 22 06:38:52 <Blou_Aap> in AS/Idea
Nov 22 06:39:00 <alankila> maybe already optimized?
Nov 22 06:39:07 <Blou_Aap> no
Nov 22 06:39:24 <Blou_Aap> i remove all my imports to see if it is just struggling to find the classes
Nov 22 06:39:35 <Blou_Aap> but wont even import basic android.app stuff
Nov 22 06:39:48 <g00s> Blou_Aap  i have 'optimize imports on the fly'
Nov 22 06:39:58 <Blou_Aap> me to
Nov 22 06:39:59 <g00s> oh
Nov 22 06:40:00 <Blou_Aap> nothing
Nov 22 06:40:14 <g00s> well, maybe new as tomorrow better luck then :D
Nov 22 06:40:19 <Blou_Aap> went and fiddled over and over trying to see what stopped it
Nov 22 06:40:22 <Blou_Aap> it used to work
Nov 22 06:40:44 <g00s> i had issues with it a long time ago, maybe 0.3.0 or something
Nov 22 06:42:26 <damccull> what is scala?
Nov 22 06:43:02 <desmin88> google it.
Nov 22 06:47:49 <Blou_Aap> lol ok now it doesnt import, it updates it to direct access
Nov 22 06:48:02 <Blou_Aap> so instead of import class at top
Nov 22 06:48:13 <Blou_Aap> it turns to direct access
Nov 22 06:48:14 <Blou_Aap> :/
Nov 22 06:53:35 <g00s> may as well just use vim then
Nov 22 06:53:37 <g00s> :D
Nov 22 06:57:34 <Blou_Aap> autocompletion and other stuff still works fine
Nov 22 06:58:28 <desmin88> so now i lost my actionbar
Nov 22 06:58:45 <Blou_Aap> googleit, might find it again
Nov 22 06:59:08 <desmin88> hilarious
Nov 22 07:01:54 <desmin88> <style name="AppBaseTheme" parent="@android:style/Theme.Holo.Light"> is used, but no actionbar. hmm.
Nov 22 07:03:02 <maven__> How to build this layout http://imgbin.org/images/15767.png   I think I maybe use the gridview,but how about the divder line solid for row and dotted for column.
Nov 22 07:03:36 <Blou_Aap> use drawable shapes for lines
Nov 22 07:03:48 <Blou_Aap> even dotted one
Nov 22 07:04:18 <Blou_Aap> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6103713/how-do-i-make-a-dotted-dashed-line-in-android
Nov 22 07:04:57 <desmin88> bollocks.
Nov 22 07:07:37 <maven__> Blou_Aap, Thanks, I will have  a try.
Nov 22 07:08:17 <desmin88> Okay guys, my min sdk is 14, my theme is holo light, but my actionbar doesnt show. Any clues?
Nov 22 07:14:59 <desmin88> Specifically here is my styles xml: http://pastie.org/8500256
Nov 22 07:16:00 <seand> desmin88: you need to inherit from an actionbar
Nov 22 07:16:01 <durka42> grrr
Nov 22 07:16:08 <durka42> how can I get the versionCode out of an installed app
Nov 22 07:16:12 <seand> Widget.Holo.Light.ActionBar.Solid, for example
Nov 22 07:16:16 <durka42> or do I just have to set it to 10000000 so it will let me install
Nov 22 07:16:30 <desmin88> fail.
Nov 22 07:17:22 <alex_PP> durka42, if you have access to the apk, run aapt d badging whatever.apk
Nov 22 07:17:48 <durka42> oh I figured it out, gradle was setting versionCode to the build date
Nov 22 07:17:57 <durka42> 10000000 wasn't high enough :p
Nov 22 07:25:01 <pfn> damccull, a language
Nov 22 07:27:18 <seand> pfn: would you happen to know the answer to this question? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15804858/why-gettheme-doesnt-work-well-on-application
Nov 22 08:06:33 * LuisLeite good morning :>
Nov 22 08:06:52 <lemonxah> morning
Nov 22 08:07:21 <piracyd3> 4pm here. Can't wait to go back ome
Nov 22 08:07:22 <piracyd3> home*
Nov 22 08:08:43 <lemonxah> 10 am here still working :/
Nov 22 08:09:35 <g00s> hah, this is hilarious http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/21/5131668/google-responds-to-microsoft-smear-campaign-with-witty-retort
Nov 22 08:09:44 <g00s> i thought both were funny
Nov 22 08:09:50 <g00s> i want a scroogled mug :)
Nov 22 08:10:09 <LuisLeite> 8AM just got back from firehouse lol
Nov 22 08:12:08 <g00s> firehouse the band ? are they still together ?
Nov 22 08:13:08 <g00s> hehe http://www.last.fm/music/Firehouse
Nov 22 08:13:22 <g00s> 'hair metal'
Nov 22 08:14:27 <piracyd3> Both companies have always been funny to me
Nov 22 08:23:17 <LuisLeite> g00s, firehouse aka firefighter :P
Nov 22 08:23:19 <LuisLeite> hehe
Nov 22 08:34:59 <squ> g00s: hahaha
Nov 22 08:36:42 <squ> g00s: they have something against apple?
Nov 22 08:37:00 <g00s> i dunno :)
Nov 22 08:37:12 <squ> looks like the end of empire
Nov 22 08:47:08 <lasserix> Anyone know if I can override the IME autocorrect triggers? Problem is I have an edit text for a search, and if the user rotates device, their input will be autocorrected...
Nov 22 08:48:02 <lasserix> Or is there something in the TextWatcher class I can use to ignore autocorrect if I set a flag isRotatingDevice, for instance?
Nov 22 09:01:41 <Kegsay> Anyone have any idea why it would take an absurd amount of time (800-1600ms) to perform a single insert into a SQLiteDatabase on the Galaxy S (GT-I9000 running 2.3.6)? Traceview unhelpfully only provides SQLiteStatement.native_execute as the blocker
Nov 22 09:02:45 <Kegsay> table seems fairly standard, 12 columns, 1 of which is unique, no index
Nov 22 09:06:57 <g00s> Kegsay i thought those old samsungs had some crappy file system
Nov 22 09:07:17 <Kegsay> aha, I was hoping it was something like that
Nov 22 09:08:50 <Kegsay> if that really is the block here, then I guess the only thing I can practically do is minimise the number of inserts that are required for the app to function
Nov 22 09:08:51 <Kegsay> hmm..
Nov 22 09:29:12 <Miklas> MediaMetadataRetriever.getFrameAt is returning me a bitmap with width and height of -1. Anyone got an idea why?
Nov 22 09:33:40 <lasserix> Anyone know how to close the soft keyboard onCreate, I have an edit text that saves its input, which I believe is causing the soft keyboard to open, no matter what method I use to hide it in onRestore (even with a post to a root view in layout)
Nov 22 09:39:50 <Kegsay> lasserix, have you tried making some dummy view focusable?
Nov 22 09:40:01 <lasserix> ahead of it in the layout ?
Nov 22 09:40:04 <Kegsay> yup
Nov 22 09:40:47 <Kegsay> typically android:focusable="true" and android:focusableInTouchMode="true" --- It's not a nice solution but will work on all android versions
Nov 22 09:41:02 <Kegsay> but it will prevent the edit text from getting focus onCreate
Nov 22 09:41:12 <Kegsay> which pops up the keyboard
Nov 22 09:43:23 <lasserix> but then i can just programmatically bring it up?
Nov 22 09:43:26 <procton> lasserix: Tried 'android:windowSoftInputMode="stateHidden"' in manifest for activity?
Nov 22 09:43:41 <lasserix> stateHidden works, but then I can't bring it up on the times i need to show up in oncreate
Nov 22 09:44:00 <lasserix> ie none of the coded methods will bring it up in the case i need it (via a flag in onRestore)
Nov 22 09:44:39 <procton> lasserix: Ok.
Nov 22 09:45:09 <Kegsay> oh I see, so you *sometimes* want it up. I suppose doing requestFocus() on it would bring it up
Nov 22 09:45:20 <Kegsay> I can't think why that wouldn't bring it up
Nov 22 09:45:41 <procton> requestFocus() on the input view, that is.
Nov 22 09:45:46 <Kegsay> of course
Nov 22 09:48:05 <lasserix> finally
Nov 22 09:48:11 <lasserix> wow that was depressing long time to resolve that
Nov 22 09:48:15 <lasserix> thank you both
Nov 22 09:48:48 <lasserix> for reference, i had to check if an input was null or not, if not hide the keyboard (request focus on dummy view) if null show keyboard (request focus on edittext input)
Nov 22 09:48:49 <lasserix> thanks again
Nov 22 09:49:18 <Kegsay> no problem
Nov 22 09:50:50 <lasserix> oh Kegsay try your sqlite q in #sqlite
Nov 22 09:51:13 <Kegsay> thanks, I will do
Nov 22 09:52:54 <lasserix> Wow using a dummy text view is imho much better way than manipulating IME
Nov 22 09:53:20 <maven__> I have an activity which will read a raw file and then add some views dynamically to the activity, however I am afraid the file loading will cost too long, any idea to improve it?
Nov 22 10:03:07 <Kegsay> maven__, the question isn't helpful, are you just concerned that it may be slow? Have you profiled it on older devices and found it to be an issue? Obviously the improvement would be to not add views using the file at all, but I assume you have good reason for it. Without more context, I cannot help you
Nov 22 10:07:16 <lasserix> maven_ use a preloading screen
Nov 22 10:07:52 <lasserix> if it is indetermine what the length of loading will be, you don't want to leave your users hanging on an empty screen so use a progress indicator or whatever until you are ready to populate your view.
Nov 22 10:08:07 <maven__> I try to display a list of data which are not updated frequently, so I put them in the /raw folder, and it is almost 2M. Then I will read this file can create LinearLayout for each item.(For some reason, I can not use the ListView).
Nov 22 10:08:30 <CallumTaylor> you definitely want a list view then
Nov 22 10:08:42 <CallumTaylor> if you can't use the list  view then don't use the data
Nov 22 10:08:52 <CallumTaylor> because 2m of data loading as views into a linear layout will be very bad
Nov 22 10:09:15 <maven__> Event use the ListView, the data are still need to be loaded.
Nov 22 10:09:22 <CallumTaylor> yes
Nov 22 10:09:29 <lasserix> loading is seperate from listview,
Nov 22 10:09:31 <CallumTaylor> use an AsyncTask
Nov 22 10:09:55 <CallumTaylor> in onDoInBackground, read from the cache and in onPostExecute, set the items in the list adapter
Nov 22 10:10:43 <Kegsay> I agree with CallumTaylor - you should focus on why you can't use a listview when what you have described is basically the same as a listview. The delay when loading the raw data into the app can be masked by using either an AsyncTask or a splash screen, as suggested
Nov 22 10:11:13 <CallumTaylor> even in a splash screen you will need to use a thread as long operations on the UI thread will cause a ANR
Nov 22 10:11:30 <maven__> ok
Nov 22 10:11:35 <Kegsay> You lose a lot of optimisations if you choose to not use a listview (such as view recycling), so scrolling through this monster of a layout would be painful
Nov 22 10:11:53 <Kegsay> this is why it is usually preferable to use listview if possible, rather than a big layout
Nov 22 10:12:02 <maven__> I will give a screenshot what I want soon
Nov 22 10:12:04 <CallumTaylor> that's if you get to that part. Loading a 2m file will most likely cause many OOM errors
Nov 22 10:12:40 <Kegsay> 2MB won't be a problem for OOM, I would be surprised if the rest of the app was taking up >14MB
Nov 22 10:12:57 <Kegsay> of course, if there are bitmaps involved, have fun with that.
Nov 22 10:12:58 <CallumTaylor> that's if you correctly use buffers
Nov 22 10:13:30 <Kegsay> well ideally he would lazy load the data as it is required
Nov 22 10:14:11 <Kegsay> because yes, just blatting all of it in may work today, but when this file gets bigger and bigger as more stuff is presumably added to it, it won't end well.
Nov 22 10:18:07 <maven__> http://imgbin.org/images/15768.png
Nov 22 10:18:11 <maven__> This is what I want.
Nov 22 10:18:51 <maven__> I try to parse the raw file to an ArrayList<HashMap<String,String>> object, and then populate the view according to the data.
Nov 22 10:27:58 <lasserix> maven
Nov 22 10:28:03 <lasserix> just make each table a listview row
Nov 22 10:28:16 <lasserix> so you don't have to reinvent the wheel of the listviewgroup
Nov 22 10:34:00 <maven__> create tablelayout for each item dynamically?
Nov 22 10:36:51 <ravirdv> hi
Nov 22 10:37:12 <ravirdv> anyone with BLE api experience?
Nov 22 10:38:28 <lasserix> maven do you know how to make a custom list view?
Nov 22 10:39:00 <maven__> I know
Nov 22 10:39:05 <lasserix> the thing you probably want to do is copy that data into an sqlite table, then use a cursor loader / adapter to do the listview
Nov 22 10:39:45 <maven__> I used to use the ArrayAdapter for listview, is CusrorAdapter better of my case?
Nov 22 10:42:21 <lemonxah> maven__, do you ahve your data in a database?
Nov 22 10:42:27 <lemonxah> using content providers?
Nov 22 10:42:31 <lemonxah> then yes cursor adapter
Nov 22 10:42:41 <maven__> Not they are json format
Nov 22 10:43:12 <Baluse> hello how can I set seekbar to take the remaining space and put at right the EditText ?
Nov 22 10:43:13 <Baluse> http://paste.ie/view/17070ae5
Nov 22 10:45:05 <dan2k3k4> gah sqlite, I have data from one XML that uses different ids and columns but I import into a table, then another JSON file has a different structure but I import it into the same table (with same column names for things) - problem is that in the XML there's an object that has the same title in the JSON and I want to use the JSON version to 'replace' the XML version (only the title is the same, no IDs or anything else)
Nov 22 10:52:06 <cff> Is it possible to change IMEI number of a phone?
Nov 22 10:52:16 <GNUtonWrk> cff, no
Nov 22 11:01:18 <cff> GNUtonWrk: You can
Nov 22 11:02:18 <GNUtonWrk> cff, I work for a company which makes phone and as far as I know that's not possible
Nov 22 11:02:44 <GNUtonWrk> cff, if that's doable I would like to know how you can change IMEI via software
Nov 22 11:07:39 <CallumTaylor> i always thought imei was like a mac address in that it was coded into the hardware
Nov 22 11:11:02 <GNUtonWrk> the thing is modem firmware is different from the android OS one
Nov 22 11:11:16 <GNUtonWrk> then you cannot spoof the IMEI
Nov 22 11:11:28 <GNUtonWrk> at modem communication level
Nov 22 11:21:37 <Miklas> When I'm using MediaMetadataRetriever.getFrameAtTime() I'm getting a bitmap with a width and height of -1. However, the documentation does not state when such a bitmap will be returned, so what is going on?
Nov 22 12:15:57 <switchgott> Hi, please could someone explain me, how i can add ethernet support to work with all apps?I have the problem, that my tab recognize the usb ethernet, and browser works well, but android intself and other apps wont work
Nov 22 12:16:07 <switchgott> So it must be a source problem.
Nov 22 12:16:28 <switchgott> Is there a github commit, which files or code i need, to get it full working?
Nov 22 12:23:06 <cff> You can change the IMEI
Nov 22 12:23:08 <cff> just google it
Nov 22 12:23:21 <cff> GNUtonWrk: ^
Nov 22 12:25:50 <switchgott> Any idea how i can found out, why android not recognize ethernet?
Nov 22 12:25:59 <switchgott> Tells me only, now internet avaliable.
Nov 22 12:27:06 <Mavrik> cff, GNUtonWrk,note that changing the IMEI is illegal in large number of countries.
Nov 22 12:27:19 <cff> Mavrik: I didn't ask if its illegal!
Nov 22 12:27:25 <cff> Mavrik: I asked if its possible!
Nov 22 12:28:25 <p_l|backup> cff: often it is. Methods depend on baseband
Nov 22 12:41:07 <macTAR>  hey guys, I had a problem with a custom camera app, when i was taking picture they doesnt appear instantly on the gallery, so I used a scanner. But now, when i delete a picture, it still appears on the gallery (only the preview)
Nov 22 12:41:11 <macTAR> an idea ?
Nov 22 13:00:40 <switchgott> No help?No idea?
Nov 22 13:05:38 <Leeds> switchgott: you see where the channel topic says "Android application development"?
Nov 22 13:07:30 <switchgott> Ohh no.I guess android dev is for android dev inself, not applikation
Nov 22 13:08:22 <switchgott> But in which channel i am right?
Nov 22 13:10:15 <switchgott> Thanks
Nov 22 13:44:00 <Yatekii> You may include ?s in the where clause, which will be replaced by the values from whereArgs. The values will be bound as Strings.
Nov 22 13:44:09 <Yatekii> do they mean ? as placeholde ror ?s?
Nov 22 13:48:10 <Chainfire> where: "something = ? and other = ?"
Nov 22 13:48:23 <Chainfire> whereArgs: new String[] { "1", "2" }
Nov 22 13:48:30 <Chainfire> --> something = 1 and other = 2
Nov 22 14:05:11 <Yatekii> ty Chainfire
Nov 22 14:05:26 <Yatekii> written very missleading :S
Nov 22 14:17:30 <Yatekii> Any idea how this: http://ideone.com/DQdFYW can give me NullPointer on l6?
Nov 22 14:19:24 <Chainfire> e.printStackTrace();
Nov 22 14:19:29 <Chainfire> pastebin the result :)
Nov 22 14:21:37 <Yatekii> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5e6e838c6b988eaced62 Chanifire
Nov 22 14:21:41 <Yatekii> *Chain
Nov 22 14:21:47 <Yatekii> *Chainfire
Nov 22 14:21:47 <Yatekii> wtf
Nov 22 14:21:50 <Yatekii> dammit
Nov 22 14:23:23 <Chainfire> dunno
Nov 22 14:23:33 <Chainfire> separate the lines one by one, see whcih one does it
Nov 22 14:27:29 <burmat> Yatekii: what is on line 74 (onCreate())
Nov 22 14:28:11 <burmat> of MirarActivity.class
Nov 22 14:29:07 <cff> Are there RSS feeds for reviews in all the languages for Google Play? Like Apple Store: https://rss.itunes.apple.com
Nov 22 14:29:49 <cff> Where you can create feeds for reviews in all the languages
Nov 22 14:30:05 <cff> So you can create a visualization tool around them
Nov 22 14:30:58 <cff> Why there is no API to get reviews from Google Play?
Nov 22 14:31:03 <cff> *official API*
Nov 22 14:31:05 <Ge0rG> I'd be glad to get one feed of reviews.
Nov 22 14:31:11 <cff> Who doesn't!
Nov 22 14:31:24 <cff> But Google sucks and is not developer friendly
Nov 22 14:31:31 <cff> like it claims to be
Nov 22 14:32:28 <cff> http://itunes.apple.com/rss/customerreviews/id=400274934/json
Nov 22 14:32:37 <cff> AND THIS: http://blog.manbolo.com/2012/09/10/useful-itunes-web-services
Nov 22 14:32:51 <cff> If someone from Google reads what I say, implement the above ^
Nov 22 14:32:57 <cff> ASAP!
Nov 22 14:33:19 <Ge0rG> nobody from Google ever reads any feedback ;)
Nov 22 14:34:13 <Yatekii> burmat: trackManager = new TrackManager(Environment.DIRECTORY_MUSIC, trackDatabase);
Nov 22 14:36:24 <cff> Ge0rG: screw them then, I'll move to Apple with all my development
Nov 22 14:36:37 <Izhido> cff: NO!
Nov 22 14:36:55 <burmat> Yatekii: you intialized trackDatabase correctly, right? Seems like it is that line that is hanging you up.
Nov 22 14:39:46 <MrMaffen> Currently working on customizing the way gradle builds my apk. Basically I want to change the versionName in my AndroidManifest.xml in my debug and release builds. I already found a way to parse the manifest and change the value of versionName. The problem is, that I don't want to change my original AndroidManifest.xml, but rather only the AndroidManifest.xml for the build I'm currently making. Any suggestions on how to do this?
Nov 22 14:40:10 <cff> Izhido: yes!
Nov 22 14:40:12 <MrMaffen> How can I alter the AndroidManifest.xml of my debug build, when running ./gradlew assembleDebug
Nov 22 14:40:13 <MrMaffen> ?
Nov 22 14:40:19 <cff> Also, how do you profile your native code in Android ?
Nov 22 14:40:45 <cff> My app uses lots of C and C++ native code, how do I profile the code ?
Nov 22 14:41:11 <cff> The tooling is non existant or poorly documented
Nov 22 14:41:27 <cff> I've tried Valgrind with little to no results
Nov 22 14:41:27 <MrMaffen> cff: yep I've also struggled with this and couldn't find a good way to profile the code
Nov 22 14:41:38 <MrMaffen> the NDK is a total mess :(
Nov 22 14:41:55 <cff> It's not a mess, just that the profiling tools are lacking
Nov 22 14:42:54 <MrMaffen> which defines it as a mess for me
Nov 22 14:43:14 <cff> I think I need to recompile the kernel and build OProfile, Perf, or some other tool
Nov 22 14:43:17 <MrMaffen> debugging was the worst when I worked with the NDK and a c library
Nov 22 14:44:28 <Izhido> is there a real need for a NDK on modern devices?
Nov 22 14:44:37 <cff> of course!
Nov 22 14:44:43 <Yatekii> burmat: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/abae408d410d69dc2e6b I think so, but see yoursef :) If I watch the db-Object in the debugger it seems ok ... and the db exists at this path
Nov 22 14:45:21 <Yatekii> and burmat it hangs in the Trackmanager-ctor
Nov 22 14:45:28 <cff> Izhido: I write most of the code in C++ for performance & portability reasons, I want to port the application to Apple, Google, Windows stores
Nov 22 14:45:32 <cff> and Tizen
Nov 22 14:45:33 <Yatekii> on line 6 of my extract I pasted :)
Nov 22 14:45:55 <cff> Izhido: writting most of the code in C++ reduces the need to rewrite code for each platform
Nov 22 14:46:12 <Yatekii> fin = new FileInputStream (storedData); is null even tho storedData exists :S
Nov 22 14:46:34 <Izhido> hm. So, how is Apple compatibility working for you?
Nov 22 14:48:54 <cff> Izhido: much more enjoyable and easy to use the Objective-C with C++ integration through Objective-C++ than through a wrapper layer like JNI on Android
Nov 22 14:49:37 <cff> Izhido: where you have to write a wrapper for every api you want to access in Java from native code
Nov 22 14:49:43 <burmat> Yatekii: Yeah, I'm stumped.  Going off of that stacktrace you pasted, it seems like TrackManager does not like one or both of those arguments you are using.  I can't really figure it out from there because it all looks ok to me : /
Nov 22 14:50:00 <Izhido> do you have a link for this objective c++ language that you speak of?
Nov 22 14:50:24 <Yatekii> burmat: that's the funneh part, I can't see much of mistakes too
Nov 22 14:50:40 <Yatekii> fin = new FileInputStream (storedData); is null for whatever reason
Nov 22 14:50:41 <p_l|backup> Izhido: it's essentially Objective-C compiled with C++ instead of C
Nov 22 14:50:43 <Yatekii> so strange
Nov 22 14:52:04 <Yatekii> http://grab.by/sgiU so weird
Nov 22 14:52:06 <p_l|backup> what with C++ hating being integrating into anything so you have to end up compiling C++ anyway ;)
Nov 22 14:52:10 <burmat> Yatekii: are you *sure* that: Environment.DIRECTORY_MUSIC + "/Cache/Mirar" exists?
Nov 22 14:52:39 <cff> Izhido: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/objective-c%2b%2b?sort=votes&pageSize=50
Nov 22 14:52:55 <burmat> Yatekii: never mind, that log seems to verify it does..
Nov 22 14:53:15 <Yatekii> burmat yeah, and and it is used after the line on which the error occurs in the ctor
Nov 22 14:53:26 <Yatekii> so that can't be the fault
Nov 22 14:53:33 <burmat> Yatekii: so it looks like fin is holding you up
Nov 22 14:53:41 <Yatekii> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/848c947cbd82cd9ef653
Nov 22 14:53:42 <Yatekii> ya
Nov 22 14:53:49 <Yatekii> but I have a verification the file exists
Nov 22 14:54:01 <Yatekii> and I just wrote that file through fileOutputStream
Nov 22 14:54:10 <Yatekii> and I checked it with some Filebrowser on android
Nov 22 14:54:15 <Yatekii> it contains the right number
Nov 22 14:54:23 <Yatekii> and has the right name in the right directory
Nov 22 14:54:27 <Yatekii> I am really confused
Nov 22 14:54:57 <Yatekii> funny stuff: I had similar errors back then when I tried to serialze stuff
Nov 22 14:55:26 <burmat> Yatekii: change: FileInputStream fin; to: FileInputStream fin = null;
Nov 22 14:56:10 <Yatekii> k I try
Nov 22 14:56:35 <Izhido> can't find anything on apple developer site
Nov 22 14:56:43 <Yatekii> burmat: same problem :S
Nov 22 14:57:13 <Izhido> even though (it seems) there was something about it a few years ago
Nov 22 14:57:22 <Izhido> sounds like it was abandoned
Nov 22 14:57:36 <Yatekii> dunno why readLine() is coressed out but maybe this is some indicator: http://grab.by/sgjw
Nov 22 15:00:10 <burmat> Yatekii: Yeah, me either. You are sure there is at least one line of data, right?
Nov 22 15:00:24 <Yatekii> yep it's a long int
Nov 22 15:00:40 <Yatekii> written that way: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/75d9f8aa2fa6292ede2c
Nov 22 15:00:47 <burmat> Maybe try BufferedReader and use readLine()?
Nov 22 15:00:52 <Yatekii> and I checked it was really written
Nov 22 15:01:05 <Yatekii> ok I try gotta google that one
Nov 22 15:01:09 <Yatekii> I am pretty new to java
Nov 22 15:06:13 <Yatekii> burmat exact same problem
Nov 22 15:06:15 <Yatekii> very fun
Nov 22 15:06:16 <Yatekii> haha
Nov 22 15:06:27 <Yatekii> well dw I got this don't waste your time :)
Nov 22 15:08:16 <burmat> Yatekii: bummer. does it look something like this? http://pastebin.com/h5sn1dhC
Nov 22 15:09:39 <Yatekii> burmat exactly like that
Nov 22 15:09:55 <Yatekii> ahm burmat I got the mistake ... dunno how to fix it tho: dateModified = Long.getLong(value);
Nov 22 15:10:02 <Yatekii> somewhat there is bugged
Nov 22 15:10:05 <Yatekii> it reads the string
Nov 22 15:10:17 <Yatekii> I wrote the read line into a String
Nov 22 15:10:23 <Yatekii> and it is filled with the right number
Nov 22 15:10:31 <Yatekii> and stored in that String value
Nov 22 15:10:32 <burmat> Yatekii: so just dumpe the string fo rnow. Are there "-" or "/" in the string if it is a date value?
Nov 22 15:10:37 <Yatekii> but the converting fails
Nov 22 15:10:43 <burmat> because that will cause Long.getLong to go pissy
Nov 22 15:11:06 <burmat> You can only have numbers and decimal places
Nov 22 15:11:35 <burmat> Or, try Long.parseLong("your string")
Nov 22 15:11:52 <Yatekii> Debugger says I have a clean number: http://grab.by/sgkC
Nov 22 15:12:18 <burmat> sure looks like it. Use parseLong, not getLong
Nov 22 15:12:20 <Yatekii> or I'm dumb
Nov 22 15:12:36 <Yatekii> works great!
Nov 22 15:12:38 <Yatekii> thanks so much
Nov 22 15:12:45 <Yatekii> wow I hate debugging :P
Nov 22 15:12:59 <burmat> Yatekii: : )
Nov 22 15:13:16 <burmat> yeah, it's frustrating sometimes. really, the simple stuff is the more frustrating stuff.
Nov 22 15:13:38 <Yatekii> wow caching works so well now too
Nov 22 15:13:51 <Yatekii> first time it needs aprox. 5secs to chach all 500 songs
Nov 22 15:13:57 <Yatekii> and after that it just runs smooth
Nov 22 15:14:14 <burmat> Yatekii: smooth is good
Nov 22 15:14:14 <Yatekii> got some little errors though but will eliminate em quick
Nov 22 15:14:29 <Yatekii> I'm using sqlite now
Nov 22 15:14:33 <Yatekii> hope it was a good choice
Nov 22 15:21:12 <macTAR>  i cant import java.awt.image.BufferedImage; is that normal ?
Nov 22 15:22:10 <Ge0rG> macTAR: yes. java.awt is not part of the android runtime
Nov 22 15:22:26 <macTAR> ok :'(
Nov 22 15:26:32 <MickeySoFine> Hi All
Nov 22 15:26:52 <MickeySoFine> How do I set a layouts hight in api 8?
Nov 22 15:26:59 <pfn> layout_height
Nov 22 15:27:03 <pfn> same as it's always been
Nov 22 15:32:36 <MickeySoFine> pfn: I though the newer way is layout.getLayoutParams().height = 10; ?
Nov 22 15:33:26 <pfn> newer way?
Nov 22 15:33:28 <pfn> why would you think that
Nov 22 15:33:54 <MickeySoFine> because thats what comes up in all my googling?
Nov 22 15:34:25 <burmat> michalrus: if you want to do it programmatically you can do it that way I guess. if you have a layout.xml file, just use the layout_height attribute
Nov 22 15:34:50 <burmat> sorry, MickeySoFine :** if you want to do it programmatically you can do it that way I guess. if you have a layout.xml file, just use the layout_height attribute
Nov 22 15:36:00 <MickeySoFine> burmat: aha! I see now, but I need to be compatible with api 8 so I cant just use LayoutParams lp = new LayoutParams();
Nov 22 15:37:18 <burmat> MickeySoFine: why? LayoutParams is compatible with 8, unless i didn't get the memo
Nov 22 15:37:41 <CasW> Hey guys, can you help me? I'm having trouble scaling a couple of images, I generate ImageViews on the fly and I want them to scale until they're a certain height (they're all in a linear layout in a horizontal scroll), but I can't seem to manage it... The most important code right now I think is layoutParams = new LinearLayout.LayoutParams(ViewGroup.LayoutParams.WRAP_CONTENT, ViewGroup.LayoutParams.MATCH_PARENT); and imgview.setScaleType(ImageView.ScaleT
Nov 22 15:38:46 <MickeySoFine> burmat: in eclipse its says "Call requires API level 11 (current min is 8): new android.app.ActionBar.LayoutParams"
Nov 22 15:39:56 <burmat> MickeySoFine You want to use ViewGroup.LayoutParams (or LinearLayout.LayoutParams, RelativeLayout.LayoutParams, etc.. depending on your layout), not "ActionBar.LayoutParams"
Nov 22 15:40:38 <burmat> ActionBar is not compatible with 8 : )
Nov 22 15:40:46 <MickeySoFine> ah ok
Nov 22 15:41:09 <snowpong> when a Fragment is re-created (not created) when moving in the backstack are the arguments passed to it in newInstace() lost? So getArguments() is actually empty?
Nov 22 15:41:25 <pfn> MickeySoFine, you've never been able to just say new LayoutParams() ...
Nov 22 15:41:52 <pfn> MickeySoFine, ActionBar is not available on api 8...
Nov 22 15:42:33 * LuisLeite good afternoon
Nov 22 15:42:56 <MickeySoFine> pfn: you can in api 11 though
Nov 22 15:43:28 <Yatekii> burmat: can you tell me, does the Debugger hold the App back much? like on the PC?
Nov 22 15:43:34 <burmat> MickeySoFine: if you are trying to set the height of a layout object, you are not looking for ActionBar.LayoutParams. Trust me. Look at the docs
Nov 22 15:44:00 <dragorn> stupid question:  I need to get some data out of an arbitrary app.  I could create a stub activity and do startactivityforresult, have that activity immediately full in the result intent and call finish() ... is there a smarter way?
Nov 22 15:44:11 <MickeySoFine> burmat: yes your right I've start using LinearLayout.LayoutParams instead
Nov 22 15:44:35 <dragorn> (I suspect there is and my search-foo is just failing me)
Nov 22 15:44:49 <burmat> Yatekii: not realy. I honostly have survived off of LogCat and don't use the debugger often : /
Nov 22 15:45:02 <dragorn> (and I don't particularly want to require a service - it's a one-off operation)
Nov 22 15:46:45 <Yatekii> burmat: oki ty :)
Nov 22 15:52:46 <burmat> dragorn: what kind of data are you trying to get from this arbitrary app?
Nov 22 15:53:00 <dragorn> burmat: nothing that can't be easily attached to an intent
Nov 22 15:53:10 <dragorn> burmat: a few short strings and a boolean.  i control both ends of the comm.
Nov 22 15:53:35 <burmat> dragorn: why can't you just do the work in an async task or other background thread?
Nov 22 15:53:44 <dragorn> burmat: it's totally DOABLE as stub activities doing a forresult, but that seems klugey.  I don't really want to make it a broadcast intent.  A service would be 100 times more than I need.
Nov 22 15:53:52 <dragorn> burmat: I don't follow the correlation
Nov 22 15:54:54 <dragorn> burmat: yes, the query will be in an async, but that doesn't really answer if there's a smarter directed intent option.  I suppose I could do a bcastrx with a directed intent to the specific app.  The app reporting status isn't expected to create a UI while doing so.
Nov 22 15:56:03 <burmat> dragorn: yeah, i have always just used broadcastintents for stuff like that, but maybe someone else can chime in with something better
Nov 22 15:56:13 <gitorol> hello guys and girls
Nov 22 15:56:58 <gitorol> i am right now trying to build aosp 4.4 for mako aka nexus 4 and have some questions i hope somebody might be able to answer in here
Nov 22 15:57:00 <dragorn> burmat: actually then I'll need bidirectional bcast rx.  bleh.
Nov 22 15:57:10 <Leeds> gitorol: are these questions about Android app development?
Nov 22 15:57:43 <burmat> dragorn: yeah, i wouldn't do it that way then lol
Nov 22 15:57:50 <gitorol> Leeds: not directly, more about including/removing apps in aosp
Nov 22 15:58:08 <Leeds> gitorol: then this is the wrong channel...
Nov 22 15:58:53 <gitorol> Leeds: can you please tell me which channel is the right one? the other #android channel told me i should go here
Nov 22 15:59:09 <Leeds> gitorol: android-building mailing list/google group, maybe
Nov 22 15:59:38 <gitorol> Leeds: hmmm takes forever to get an answet there
Nov 22 16:00:28 <Leeds> good to know
Nov 22 16:00:41 <MrMeTooo> burmat !!!!
Nov 22 16:00:58 <gitorol> Leeds: what about #android-root?
Nov 22 16:01:43 <Leeds> you can ask there, but it's mainly full of people either trying to recover devices they've buggered up, or getting annoyed because nobody will give them exact instructions on how to root some 2-year-old Cambodian phone they just bought
Nov 22 16:02:17 * SpeedEvil decides not to make a Gary Glitter joke.
Nov 22 16:02:29 <Leeds> SpeedEvil: wise choice
Nov 22 16:02:59 * SpeedEvil wishes more vendors would comply with their legal requirements.
Nov 22 16:03:06 <SpeedEvil> That'd at least be a start.
Nov 22 16:03:59 <burmat> MrMeTooo: hey man!
Nov 22 16:04:46 <MrMeTooo> burmat FREAKN GENUIS!!
Nov 22 16:04:58 <burmat> MrMeTooo: hahah it works, doesn't it. I TOLD YOU : D
Nov 22 16:05:05 <MrMeTooo> got it to work this morning
Nov 22 16:05:28 <Raziel> Leeds, I got a nexus phone and all I needed to root it was run one command
Nov 22 16:05:31 <Raziel> What am I doing wrong?
Nov 22 16:05:37 <burmat> MrMeTooo: good man, i'm psyched for you. if you can tackle ListView and custom ArrayAdapters, you can tackle ANYTHING lol
Nov 22 16:05:45 <Leeds> Raziel: not being a fuckwit, mainly
Nov 22 16:05:58 <burmat> ^ lol
Nov 22 16:06:00 <MrMeTooo> burmat TRUE! I just got to figure out two more things then I can move on
Nov 22 16:06:11 <burmat> MrMeTooo: .... oh boy.
Nov 22 16:06:44 <MrMeTooo> burmat lol
Nov 22 16:07:02 <Raziel> MrMeTooo, remember to parallelize whatever populates the adapter, everyone knows it's faster that way
Nov 22 16:07:44 <MrMeTooo> Raziel I'll keep that in mind
Nov 22 16:08:05 <Raziel> Well, it might actually be faster depending on how you populate it
Nov 22 16:08:15 <Raziel> Like if, say, you read stuff from files or http connections
Nov 22 16:10:04 <theblang> is there an easy way to handle onTouch for a MapFragment?
Nov 22 16:11:11 <MrMeTooo> burmat this is how i got it to keep the values http://pastebin.com/trWGY0Xx
Nov 22 16:11:29 <Raziel> Forrest*
Nov 22 16:11:34 <Raziel> lel
Nov 22 16:11:50 <Raziel> also fix your indentation yo
Nov 22 16:12:37 <gitorol> ok i wrote an app for android which is supposed to be an music player, i now want to replace the aosp music player in the aosp source by my app. how do i remove the aosp music player? just editing makefiles?
Nov 22 16:12:38 <MrMeTooo> ooops minus the list.add( Med) and Med2...thats what im working on now
Nov 22 16:13:08 <burmat> MrMeTooo: you could probably ditch  add.notifyDataSetChanged(); since you are setting your ArrayList before creating your adapter. You only need to call it when your ArrayList changes
Nov 22 16:13:19 <Yatekii> burmat: do you know Sqlite implementation of Android? If yes, does a Cursor with args provided always look like that? http://grab.by/sgty shouldnt the ? be replaced with the args I provided ... ? (a String array)
Nov 22 16:13:47 <burmat> MrMeTooo: I guess I just don't know *how* you want it to look though. Maybe do a paint of it or something.  Did you end up using my ListAdapter I wrote?
Nov 22 16:14:21 <burmat> Yatekii: oh shoot, give me a few minutes here. I haven't used sqlite in a while.
Nov 22 16:14:28 <FrEaKmAn_> what is the best way to store specific settings like url to API for getting data?
Nov 22 16:14:37 <FrEaKmAn_> is AndroidManifest good location?
Nov 22 16:14:57 <burmat> Yatekii: yeah that is def wrong. something is wrong there
Nov 22 16:15:04 <Yatekii> burmat k ty
Nov 22 16:15:12 <Yatekii> so gotta fig. out wtaht
Nov 22 16:15:12 <burmat> where are you passing the args args, i closed the tab and don't have the code up anymore
Nov 22 16:15:36 <Yatekii> burmat: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/68ebdb663d6184517d85
Nov 22 16:15:55 <Yatekii> maybe it's a verdy dumb newbie mistake
Nov 22 16:16:06 <Yatekii> sqlit3 was so much easier with python and php :D
Nov 22 16:16:35 <MrMeTooo> Burmat Yes. now I'm trying to change my spinner the same way
Nov 22 16:16:57 <burmat> MrMeTooo oh boy lol
Nov 22 16:17:38 <burmat> brb, quick meeting. Yatekii i will look at your stuff here in a few minutes
Nov 22 16:18:47 <Yatekii> burmat: you owe me no duty ;) so no hurry I am glad if you help at all ;)
Nov 22 16:23:28 <pfn> how do I package an apk using maven?
Nov 22 16:24:18 <pfn> package?
Nov 22 16:27:05 <ovrflw0x> why is emulator running 'slow'?
Nov 22 16:27:07 <ovrflw0x> on linux
Nov 22 16:27:32 <gdrc> use intel image
Nov 22 16:27:41 <ovrflw0x> ?
Nov 22 16:27:44 <ovrflw0x> what is intel image?
Nov 22 16:28:30 <cff> How can I get a list of all the supported Google Play languages?
Nov 22 16:29:06 <gdrc> ovrflw0x: in the android sdk manager you are able to download intel image of android that is different from the arm one, much faster
Nov 22 16:29:17 <gdrc> or you can use genymotion that is pretty fast
Nov 22 16:29:18 <cff> I want to make requests to https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.myawesomapp&hl=[language code here]
Nov 22 16:29:30 <cff> But I need a list of *ALL* the languages codes Google supports
Nov 22 16:30:27 <cff> oh, https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2843119?hl=en
Nov 22 16:30:53 <cff> But alas, I have only a country list, not languages list
Nov 22 16:38:53 <seand> anyone know why getApplicationContext().getTheme() is not the correct theme?
Nov 22 16:39:33 <MrMeTooo> Hey guys simple question how can I add multiple items to list.add?
Nov 22 16:40:37 <seand> MrMeTooo: ##java
Nov 22 16:40:54 <MrMeTooo> Yes. Android
Nov 22 16:41:01 <greymalkin> hmm...
Nov 22 16:41:26 <MrMaffen> I'm trying to get my gradle build script working with the ndk-build script. It already works on the commandline when I call ./gradlew assembleRelease or ./gradlew assembleDebug ... However in Android Studio the same build script doesn't work. It throws this error: Gradle: Execution failed for task ':buildNative'.
Nov 22 16:41:26 <MrMaffen> > execCommand == null!
Nov 22 16:42:37 <seand> MrMeTooo: are you talking about the list class?
Nov 22 16:42:51 <MrMaffen> the error happens here http://pastebin.com/TRHUaix3
Nov 22 16:42:57 <MrMeTooo> seand yes
Nov 22 16:42:58 <MrMaffen> Any thoughts on what I might be doing wrong?
Nov 22 16:43:11 <seand> MrMeTooo: java.util.List.... so ##java
Nov 22 16:43:18 <greymalkin> How can I examine the manifest of an existing apk, now that it seems to be binary?
Nov 22 16:43:29 <greymalkin> (Trying to seek out intents I can use on another application)
Nov 22 16:44:20 <MrMeTooo> seand this is what I mean but this is wrong http://pastebin.com/na9hdaKx
Nov 22 16:44:42 <seand> oh
Nov 22 16:44:48 <MrMeTooo> wrong because it adds 3 lines
Nov 22 16:47:27 <MrMeTooo> seand any ideas?
Nov 22 16:49:15 <ovrflw0x> gdrc: seems it's a long process, will installing bluestacks on windows work for android dev?
Nov 22 16:49:40 <gdrc> sure
Nov 22 16:49:55 <theblang> anyone ever put a MapFragment in a ScrollView?
Nov 22 16:49:55 <ovrflw0x> gdrc: what do you prefer for android dev? win or lin?
Nov 22 16:50:15 <seand> MrMeTooo: the typical way a ListView is used is you set a list adapter for it. http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/declaring-layout.html#AdapterViews
Nov 22 16:50:15 <gdrc> i dont like linux
Nov 22 16:50:20 <ovrflw0x> why?
Nov 22 16:50:34 <gdrc> interface is buggy
Nov 22 16:50:50 <ovrflw0x> good point
Nov 22 16:50:52 <ovrflw0x> is that all?
Nov 22 16:51:06 <seand> theblang: why would you do that
Nov 22 16:51:18 <MrMaffen> gdrc: well at least the bugs are predictable. with windows I never know what'll happen next :D
Nov 22 16:51:29 <gdrc> ovrflw0x: no, on linux you dont have windows software like office
Nov 22 16:51:42 <theblang> seand because I show a map along with information below it.  I don't want the information to scroll, as the user will feel cramped.  I want the entire page to scroll.
Nov 22 16:51:43 <gdrc> you cant play etc..
Nov 22 16:52:01 <seand> theblang: do you want the map to scroll?
Nov 22 16:52:08 <theblang> seand yes
Nov 22 16:52:50 <burmat> MrMeTooo: make your ArrayList list ArrayLIst<String[]> to hold multiple string arrays. then in get view, use position to pull the array and use the values for your list entry
Nov 22 16:53:09 <ovrflw0x> MrMaffen: what distro do you use?
Nov 22 16:53:10 <burmat> Yatekii: back, taking a look now
Nov 22 16:53:15 <burmat> unless you got it working already
Nov 22 16:53:16 <MrMaffen> ovrflw0x: kubuntu
Nov 22 16:53:20 <Yatekii> wb
Nov 22 16:53:26 <Yatekii> nah unfortunately i did not :S
Nov 22 16:53:30 <ovrflw0x> MrMaffen: did you easily make intel image?
Nov 22 16:53:37 <ovrflw0x> or it's a long process
Nov 22 16:53:45 <MrMeTooo> burmat ok let me break it again lol
Nov 22 16:53:47 <ovrflw0x> ?
Nov 22 16:53:59 <MrMaffen> ovrflw0x: I didn't make one
Nov 22 16:54:00 <seand> theblang: i did something similar in my app. put an image of a map with address below, and make it clickable to open the scrollable map
Nov 22 16:54:01 <burmat> MrMeTooo: save often! lol
Nov 22 16:54:09 <ovrflw0x> then?
Nov 22 16:54:50 <seand> burmat: it's called source control lol
Nov 22 16:55:02 <MrMeTooo> burmat so no way I can can just add it to list.add did you see the pastebin on what i mean?
Nov 22 16:55:09 <burmat> seand: ^ touche lol
Nov 22 16:55:45 <theblang> seand yeah, I was thinking about just doing a toggle icon like you mentioned.  this SO answer (http://stackoverflow.com/a/17315956/1747491) talks about a solution, putting a transparent ImageView over the map in order to use requestDisallowInterceptTouchEvent.  I don't know why you can't just use mapFragment.getView().setOnTouchListener, because requestDisallowInterceptTouchEvent is exactly what needs to happen.  Really dumb.
Nov 22 16:55:46 <MrMaffen> Anybody using gradle with Android Studio in here ?
Nov 22 16:55:46 <ovrflw0x> MrMaffen: what do you mean i didn't make one? don't you dev  on linux?
Nov 22 16:55:53 <burmat> MrMeTooo: you would do it the same way, you would use list.add() but you would pass it a string array, not a single string
Nov 22 16:56:04 <burmat> Yatekii: you are hardcoding and appending ?=? no matter what
Nov 22 16:56:26 <burmat> Yatekii: also, your counter starts at 0 but you are using i++ to start populating your array at position 1, not 0
Nov 22 16:56:34 <burmat> Yatekii: so position 0 literally has nothing in it
Nov 22 16:56:45 <ovrflw0x> MrMaffen: you there?
Nov 22 16:56:47 <MrMeTooo> ummm ok. let me give it  a swing
Nov 22 16:56:55 <zyngawow> Where can devs get app ideas?
Nov 22 16:57:41 <MrMaffen> ovrflw0x: yea i'm developing on linux. If you're takling about the intel system image of a particular android platform version, no I have never "made" one
Nov 22 16:57:43 <Yatekii> burmat position 0 is the tablename
Nov 22 16:57:55 <Yatekii> and how do I not hardcode ?=? ?
Nov 22 16:58:02 <ovrflw0x> MrMaffen: then how do you dev on linux w/o emulator?
Nov 22 16:58:12 <Yatekii> from the refs I figured I just write ? for a string as placeholder
Nov 22 16:58:35 <MrMaffen> ovrflw0x: first of all ... there is such a thing as actual android devices and secondly you can just use the arm system images Oo
Nov 22 16:58:49 <ovrflw0x> latter is slow
Nov 22 16:58:52 <seand> theblang: i just stuck a Button over the map fragment
Nov 22 16:58:54 <MrMaffen> ovrflw0x: true
Nov 22 16:59:05 <burmat> MrMeTooo: for example, one entry might look like {"lrg value", "med value", "med2 value"} and you would add it to ArrayList<String[]>. then in getView just use position to pull that array and grab the values
Nov 22 16:59:13 <burmat> Yatekii: ok, let me look again
Nov 22 16:59:26 <theblang> seand so what do you do if user clicks button and shows the map?
Nov 22 16:59:45 <Yatekii> ok fck brumat
Nov 22 16:59:51 <Yatekii> you're right about the i++
Nov 22 16:59:58 <Yatekii> but what with the placeholders?
Nov 22 17:00:01 <burmat> yea, i was just lookign at it again
Nov 22 17:00:07 <MrMeTooo> gotcha
Nov 22 17:00:10 <burmat> idk, honostly idk what you are trying to do there
Nov 22 17:00:14 <burmat> seems kinda trivial
Nov 22 17:00:15 <seand> theblang: i show the map? the minimap is not interactive
Nov 22 17:00:36 <seand> theblang: why should it be, it's just a preview
Nov 22 17:01:09 <burmat> first you shoudl move your incrementor down to the bottom of the for loop and just use: args[i] to put them into the array
Nov 22 17:01:24 <Yatekii> nah that's not the prob
Nov 22 17:01:29 <Yatekii> prob is with the query
Nov 22 17:01:45 <MrMeTooo> burmat so I'm do both static and dynamic at the same time ( kind of ) right?
Nov 22 17:01:50 <theblang> seand in my case I have the MapFragment, and under is a lot of textual information, all of which is in a ScrollView.  it looks so much cleaner to make everything scroll.  I might try using that transparent ImageView hack
Nov 22 17:01:54 <Yatekii> refs tell you can have ?s in your WHERE clause and provide a String[] with args being set instead of the ?s
Nov 22 17:01:58 <MrMeTooo> doing
Nov 22 17:02:02 <Yatekii> but the replacement doesnt work
Nov 22 17:02:41 <seand> theblang: why have the minimap scroll at all?
Nov 22 17:02:57 <theblang> seand because if it doesnt scroll with the page, the screen feels cramped
Nov 22 17:03:07 <theblang> seand just a user experience reason
Nov 22 17:03:23 <burmat> Yatekii yeah, because you are using ?=? instead of actual values
Nov 22 17:03:36 <burmat> MrMeTooo: exactly, a dynamic arraylist of string arrays lol
Nov 22 17:03:39 <theblang> seand why is it that mapFragment.getView().setOnTouchListener doesn't work I wonder
Nov 22 17:03:40 <seand> theblang: by scroll i was referring to the map itself, not the map within the page
Nov 22 17:04:14 <theblang> seand oh, good question, because the map is showing the user where they need to go from their location to a marker, so they will probably want to zoom in and move the map around
Nov 22 17:04:15 <MrMeTooo> LOLOL damn i'm complicated!
Nov 22 17:05:25 <Yatekii> burmat: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/database/sqlite/SQLiteDatabase.html#update(java.lang.String,%20android.content.ContentValues,%20java.lang.String,%20java.lang.String[]) I just tried to do what is written there ...
Nov 22 17:05:30 <MrMeTooo> ok let me give it try
Nov 22 17:06:05 <seand> theblang: sounds like the page is trying to do too much. i would be annoyed that i can only scroll the page by using the area the map does not take up
Nov 22 17:08:21 <pfn> goddamnit, I hate gradle manifest merging
Nov 22 17:08:34 <pfn> so very many libraries have incorrect manifest versions
Nov 22 17:08:39 <pfn> like they say minSdkVersion=19
Nov 22 17:08:51 <pfn> and then android builder just poops
Nov 22 17:08:57 <seand> lol, seems restrictive
Nov 22 17:09:09 <pfn> because the library doesn't actually require minSdkVersion=19
Nov 22 17:09:17 <MrMaffen> pfn: do you know why this http://pastebin.com/TRHUaix3 fails when I try to compile it within Android Studio but when I try to compile it via commandline ?
Nov 22 17:09:30 <MrMaffen> +not
Nov 22 17:09:35 <pfn> I don't use gradle
Nov 22 17:09:37 <MrMaffen> it works on the commandline
Nov 22 17:09:41 <MrMaffen> hmpf
Nov 22 17:09:48 <pfn> and because android studio doesn't use gradle until 0.3.6 for building
Nov 22 17:10:40 <MrMaffen> pfn: yea but I want that "clone it, build it" feeling when somebody wants to contribute to my project :/
Nov 22 17:10:50 <MrMaffen> and it seems like gradle would be the perfect choice
Nov 22 17:10:53 <pfn> MrMaffen, android studio 0.3.6
Nov 22 17:11:08 <MrMaffen> pfn: yea I'm using 0.3.6
Nov 22 17:11:22 <pfn> then make sure it's using gradle aware make, I guess
Nov 22 17:11:24 <pfn> otherwise
Nov 22 17:11:25 * pfn shrugs
Nov 22 17:11:28 <pfn> don't build in android studio
Nov 22 17:11:32 <MrMaffen> it does use gradle
Nov 22 17:11:36 <MrMaffen> but it throws an error
Nov 22 17:11:58 <Yatekii> burmat: http://stackoverflow.com/a/10601764/2135358 exatly what I try to do .. but doesn't work for me seems
Nov 22 17:12:06 <theblang> seand maybe I should put just a button to the map and have it be the entire screen... good point
Nov 22 17:12:14 <MrMaffen> pfn: this one to be exact Gradle: Execution failed for task ':buildNative'.
Nov 22 17:12:15 <MrMaffen> > execCommand == null!
Nov 22 17:13:34 <pfn> ndkBuild is null?
Nov 22 17:13:42 * pfn shrugs
Nov 22 17:14:12 <MrMaffen> pfn: yea that was my first thought. but it isn't ... same error happens if comment everything inside task buildNative
Nov 22 17:14:17 <MrMaffen> if I comment*
Nov 22 17:14:22 * pfn shrugs
Nov 22 17:14:25 <pfn> give it another name then
Nov 22 17:14:55 <burmat> Yatekii: okay, i am trying to understand this a little better before I blindly tell you things lol
Nov 22 17:15:29 <MrMaffen> pfn: just tried it. didn't work :(
Nov 22 17:15:55 <theblang> seand I think im going to go with your suggestion.  make the map static, and just have an onclick listener to open a new activity with a fully featured map.  if I can do an onclick listener on the map
Nov 22 17:16:05 <pfn> MrMaffen, try giving the build task another name
Nov 22 17:16:15 <seand> theblang: good idea :)
Nov 22 17:16:36 <MrMaffen> pfn: you mean task buildNative or which one ?
Nov 22 17:16:53 <seand> theblang: to achieve that, i put a borderless button inside the <fragment> in the xml layout
Nov 22 17:16:57 <burmat> Yatekii: so you want key = value in yoru where, right?
Nov 22 17:17:01 <pfn> MrMaffen, rename it from buildNative, maybe you have a conflict
Nov 22 17:17:09 <Yatekii> burmat yep
Nov 22 17:17:12 <burmat> ok
Nov 22 17:17:16 <theblang> seand so you can't just put a clicklistener on the map itself?
Nov 22 17:17:27 <MrMaffen> pfn: yea I just tried that. didn't work though :/
Nov 22 17:17:31 <seand> theblang: not sure... try it and let me know
Nov 22 17:17:34 * pfn shrugs
Nov 22 17:17:38 <theblang> seand will do
Nov 22 17:17:44 <seand> thx
Nov 22 17:17:49 <FrancescoV> Hi all, does somebody know if a device (don't care which one) can send and receive bluetooth low energy signals? The device needs to be connected with android phone but the device needs to send a signal (bluetooth) when connection with smartphone is lost
Nov 22 17:19:49 <machinarius> Hey guys! I have published an AAR artifact to maven central using "gradle uploadArchives" successfully (com.github.machinarius:preferencefragment:0.1) but gradle is only downloading the pom when i try to build a project that depends on that artifact. Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?
Nov 22 17:21:17 <MrMeTooo> burmat lot of breaking going on here lol
Nov 22 17:22:17 <burmat> MrMeTooo: lol oh boy. give me a paste when you get a sec of when you populate your arraylist and your getView() method
Nov 22 17:22:34 <burmat> Yatekii: I think i have something for you
Nov 22 17:23:03 <MrMeTooo> burmat ok
Nov 22 17:23:04 <SimonVT> machinarius: Your packaging seems to be wrong (aar.asc)
Nov 22 17:23:07 <SimonVT> It should just be aar
Nov 22 17:23:26 <SimonVT> You can reference the aar directly by adding @aar after the version
Nov 22 17:24:42 <Yatekii> burmat k?
Nov 22 17:24:54 <explodes> Hello!
Nov 22 17:25:37 <theblang> seand do you recall offhand how you made the map static (not movable?)
Nov 22 17:25:59 <burmat> Yatekii: http://pastebin.com/72iymfHh
Nov 22 17:26:24 <seand> theblang: i just overlayed a button over the entire width/height of the map fragment, so it doesn't receive any touch events
Nov 22 17:26:34 <burmat> Yatekii the if for checking for appending the "AND" might be off by 1 so you have to dump your query and see how it looks, my brain is a little fried today
Nov 22 17:28:40 <burmat> Yatekii: but from my understanding, you only want to add value to the array and use ? to use it with the key.
Nov 22 17:29:05 <burmat> so you just write the value for key writing into your parameters string..
Nov 22 17:29:13 <g00s> hey capella , did you read about kitkat not coming with a web browser (oems must license chrome or build there own)
Nov 22 17:29:52 <capella> get out! no!
Nov 22 17:30:12 <g00s> http://www.unwiredview.com/2013/11/21/android-4-4-kitkat-ships-without-browser-app-oems-have-to-license-chrome-or-build-their-own/
Nov 22 17:30:36 <capella> cool - ill read inna bit - on the way to the dentist  :(
Nov 22 17:30:43 <burmat> Yatekii: also, if you move i++ above that if statment to check the size against your counter, it should validate and make that logic correct.
Nov 22 17:31:51 <Ge0rG> heh. it looks like you can't Service.startActivity(), but you can Service.getApplicationContext().startActivity(). is that a bug or a feature?
Nov 22 17:31:52 <evanc> g00s: don't all non-GPE devices generally have their own e.g. S-Browse anyway?
Nov 22 17:32:45 <g00s> i dont think it makes much difference for consumers; presumably oems licensing the googly things will also license chrome
Nov 22 17:32:58 <theblang> seand GoogleMap.getUiSettings().setScrollGesturesEnabled(false);
Nov 22 17:33:46 <machinarius> SimonVT, That worked. Thank you very much. One question though, how can i fix my packaging so i don't have to explicitly ask for the aar package on compile?
Nov 22 17:34:04 <seand> theblang: so that + onclick listener works?
Nov 22 17:34:49 <MrMeTooo> I am sooo far from doing this right
Nov 22 17:35:07 <burmat> MrMeTooo: ahh, you have to be close if you had it working earlier
Nov 22 17:35:09 <theblang> seand affirmitive
Nov 22 17:35:27 <seand> theblang: sweet, thanks
Nov 22 17:35:51 <theblang> seand thank you, definitely going with your advice that I was trying to do too much on the Activity
Nov 22 17:36:04 <MrMeTooo> burmat yea the edittext is working but trying to implement what you told me is the pain
Nov 22 17:36:10 <MrMeTooo> I'll keep at it
Nov 22 17:36:27 <burmat> MrMeTooo: let me try to get some demo code written up for you
Nov 22 17:37:07 <SimonVT> machinarius: I just added packaging 'aar' to pom.project
Nov 22 17:37:14 <MrMeTooo> ok am I using a totally new Array list or just adding them to the one I already have?
Nov 22 17:37:57 <Yatekii> burmat I wanted ? for both, key and value :S but if that's not possibkle kk
Nov 22 17:38:17 <burmat> MrMeTooo: well there is a difference between ArrayList<String> and ArrayList<String[]>. one holds strings and the other holds arrays. you are going to have to modify quite a bit to get it working with the arrayadapter we wrote yesterday
Nov 22 17:38:30 <burmat> Yatekii: yeah, idk man. that was my best shot : /
Nov 22 17:38:46 <Yatekii> yeye np tks so much :)
Nov 22 17:39:04 <seand> Yatekii: why do you want ? for key
Nov 22 17:39:23 <MrMeTooo> burmat Yeah I figured shoot that sample when you can
Nov 22 17:40:09 <machinarius> SimonVT, This is the build.gradle for the library in question https://github.com/Machinarius/PreferenceFragment-Compat/blob/master/build.gradle - It already has packaging set to aar
Nov 22 17:40:24 <Swiftwork> Hi, I am loading a few images from my sdcard through BitmapFactory.decodeFile(), however occasionally one of these files is missing and a FileNotFoundException occurs. The issue is that Android Studio (SDK) is not allowing a try/catch block around my BitmapFactory.
Nov 22 17:40:26 <seand> Yatekii: i use MessageFormat.format("{0} = ?", key)
Nov 22 17:41:07 <Yatekii> seand: because I have a function that want's key value pairs that must match for a search result ;)
Nov 22 17:41:55 <machinarius> Swiftwork, Can you elaborate please? the compiler will never complain about a try-catch block unless you are doing it wrong
Nov 22 17:42:20 <SimonVT> machinarius: I have no idea, haven't had that issue
Nov 22 17:42:25 <machinarius> Or you may be trying to catch an exception that the compiler does not know about
Nov 22 17:42:31 <Yatekii> k gotta move to train
Nov 22 17:42:32 <Yatekii> lata
Nov 22 17:42:43 <machinarius> SimonVT, can i see a sample build.gradle that works for you please?
Nov 22 17:42:51 <seand> does anyone know the answer to the question? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15804858/why-gettheme-doesnt-work-well-on-application
Nov 22 17:43:08 <SimonVT> https://github.com/SimonVT/MessageBar/blob/master/messagebar/build.gradle
Nov 22 17:44:40 <SimonVT> machinarius: What's android-maven?
Nov 22 17:45:10 <machinarius> SimonVT, I use it as a workaround, applying the maven plugin conflicts with android's install
Nov 22 17:45:42 <machinarius> android-maven is a slight mod of maven so gradle install does install the artifacts into the local repo
Nov 22 17:46:21 <machinarius> gradle install by default installs the apk on the device
Nov 22 17:46:33 <SimonVT> Granted it was a long time since I pushed an aar, but the maven plugin worked fine for me
Nov 22 17:46:50 <SimonVT> So that's probably where I would search for the issue
Nov 22 17:47:25 <machinarius> SimonVT, You may be right, i will try to tinker with that a bit, mostly as i don't need local installation anymore - i have a sonatype repo now
Nov 22 17:47:26 <MrMeTooo> burmat here is some old code I have I'm guessing its close to this http://pastebin.com/fhSsaHRC
Nov 22 17:52:58 <burmat> MrMeTooo: yeah i just converted the project i gave you yesterday to use what i was talking about
Nov 22 17:53:37 <burmat> I will pastebin the entire file and you can check it out
Nov 22 17:53:44 <burmat> i will leave comments too
Nov 22 17:54:50 <MrMeTooo> ok thanks
Nov 22 18:00:47 <burmat> MrMeTooo: http://pastebin.com/1Sa44LiW here it is. working 100% (even the edit text and button) on my end. all of the string arrays just have dummy data in the "med", "med 2", "lrg"
Nov 22 18:01:13 <MrMeTooo> ok let take a look and get to work
Nov 22 18:01:14 <burmat> but hopefully you can take it from here and populate your lists accordingly. Pay very close attention in getView() as to how you actually get the information out.
Nov 22 18:01:37 <zyngawow> Where can devs get app ideas?
Nov 22 18:01:52 <burmat> zyngawow: bars
Nov 22 18:01:55 <gdrc> zyngawow: your head i suppose
Nov 22 18:02:03 <explodes> How do I make my app not restart on crash?
Nov 22 18:02:05 <zyngawow> gdrc, and if I have none?
Nov 22 18:02:14 <burmat> seriously. 99% of my good ideas have come from a night out with friends + alcohol
Nov 22 18:02:30 <zyngawow> burmat, I do that too, but I don't get ideas :(
Nov 22 18:02:55 <gdrc> zyngawow: could be a problem
Nov 22 18:03:12 <durka42> explodes: how about making it not crash, instead :)
Nov 22 18:03:35 <explodes> Its harder to do when log cat fills up with my Log statements that are shown on startup
Nov 22 18:04:09 <explodes> Its just inconvenient that I have to wade through that crap every time I forget to leave the app with the "App has crashed" dialog
Nov 22 18:04:58 <MrMeTooo> zyngawow think about what you need or would be cool to know chances are there are more ppl what want to know the same thing
Nov 22 18:05:01 <burmat> filter by just errors
Nov 22 18:05:16 <burmat> take it off of verbose
Nov 22 18:05:23 <burmat> and use a unique tag
Nov 22 18:05:25 <gdrc> durka42: nice one
Nov 22 18:05:35 <zyngawow> MrMeTooo, problem is most things I need have a problem and are hard to implement. See, a decent stock exchange app. Everyone charges for data
Nov 22 18:06:42 <MrMeTooo> zyngawow well make one that doesnt charge
Nov 22 18:06:58 <zyngawow> MrMeTooo, Data providers charge for data, not me
Nov 22 18:07:40 <MrMeTooo> zyngawow what do you mean by "they have a problem"
Nov 22 18:08:17 <explodes> burmat that's the only solution? my app never used to restart on its own, suddenly it did.
Nov 22 18:08:21 <zyngawow> MrMeTooo, see, you want stock quotes, you have to pay. App developers have to
Nov 22 18:10:06 <MrMeTooo> zyngawow think simpler dude... let the code be the hard part not the idea http://blog.gauffin.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/albert-einstein-if-you-cant-explain-it-simply-you-dont-understand-it-well-enough.png
Nov 22 18:10:12 <tomasso> is there some way to check how used is the internet connection being?  If it isnt used that much by applications, I would like to make mine, preload images, so the app becomes more responsive,
Nov 22 18:11:30 <Swiftwork> machinarius: Using BitmapFactory.decodeFile(path, options); caused a java.io.FileNotFoundException in my android log (did not crash, but still occured). To remedy this issue I tried surrounding the call with a try/catch for a FileNotFoundException, however Android Studio tells me that FileNotFoundException is never thrown in this block.
Nov 22 18:12:24 <gdrc> I have to starting to develop for iOS as well
Nov 22 18:14:49 <burmat> explodes: yeah, i mean maybe i don't understand what you are getting at, but if an app crashes it usually generates a stacktrace. if you are only viewing logs from your package and you only filter by errors, it should be right in front of you. It's only a few mouse clicks to change the filters on LogCat..
Nov 22 18:15:49 <burmat> and when you do use logcat, just make sure you use .e, .v. and .i accordingly so that it is easier to filter when you are trying to debug your stuff.
Nov 22 18:18:16 <explodes> is there a GOOD manual for log cat filters anywhere? I can never find one when I'm curious
Nov 22 18:20:00 <burmat> explodes: this is pretty straight forward i think: http://developer.android.com/tools/debugging/debugging-log.html
Nov 22 18:20:04 <MrMeTooo> burmat is the code you sent me all in one activity?
Nov 22 18:20:33 <MrMeTooo> no passing between two
Nov 22 18:20:48 <burmat> MrMeTooo: yep, that would be "ListActivity" for you, it is "MainActivity" for me (and my project environment)
Nov 22 18:21:24 <MrMeTooo> ok
Nov 22 18:21:31 <burmat> MrMeTooo: idk if you compilied the project i put up for you yesterday, but you should literally be able to copy and paste that code right on top of what I gave you yesterday and it will compile
Nov 22 18:22:06 <burmat> then you can get a sense of how it works
Nov 22 18:22:15 <MrMeTooo> burmat i did. will do
Nov 22 18:27:23 <MrMeTooo> burmat no receiving bundle?
Nov 22 18:28:35 <burmat> MrMeTooo: you can add that the same way we did yesterday, but I don't think I fully grasp what you keep in that bundle so you are going to have to play with it.  The dummy data in the String arrays are meant to represent your bundle data
Nov 22 18:29:09 <MrMeTooo> oh ok
Nov 22 18:33:22 <machinarius> Swiftwork, Weird. Are you sure it's a FileNotFoundException? It could be wrapped in another exception class. FileNotFoundException is not a RuntimeException so the compiler knows in advance whether it can be thrown or not
Nov 22 18:39:14 <MrMaffen> I'm trying to get my gradle build script working with the ndk-build script. It already works on the commandline when I call ./gradlew assembleRelease or ./gradlew assembleDebug ... However in Android Studio the same build script doesn't work. It throws this error: Gradle:
Nov 22 18:39:15 <MrMaffen>     Execution failed for task ':buildNative'.
Nov 22 18:39:15 <MrMaffen>     > execCommand == null!
Nov 22 18:39:15 <MrMaffen> the error happens here http://pastebin.com/TRHUaix3
Nov 22 18:39:15 <MrMaffen> Any thoughts on what I might be doing wrong?
Nov 22 18:40:42 <sabton> im looking to start an animation after n seconds, does Animation provide this facility or shall I implement my own timer?
Nov 22 18:45:13 <evanc> sabton: use Handler#postDelayed to kick off the animation
Nov 22 18:45:46 <sabton> hi evan, yes i considered this but would also want the ability to cancel/reset the start delay on user interaction
Nov 22 18:45:57 <evanc> sabton: Handler#removeCallbacks
Nov 22 18:45:57 <sabton> cannot do this with postDelayed right?
Nov 22 18:46:37 <sabton> cool, thanks :)
Nov 22 18:48:29 <sabton> Animation has setStartDelay, etc and have been looking at that for a bit... red herring =\
Nov 22 18:51:56 <burmat> MrMeTooo: how is it comin?
Nov 22 18:52:46 <MrMeTooo> burmat got an error on holder.sex.setText(listItem[1]); trying to see why
Nov 22 18:53:11 <burmat> paste the stacktrace somewhere
Nov 22 18:53:30 <MrMeTooo> or line 136 in pastebin
Nov 22 18:53:52 <MrMeTooo> 137
Nov 22 18:53:58 <MrMeTooo> i ment
Nov 22 18:55:32 <funkbox> i'm seeing a weird issue where Canvas.drawBitmap(Bitmap bitmap, float left, float top, Paint paint) results in the background being drawn twice
Nov 22 18:58:04 <burmat> MrMeTooo: yeah i know what line, just don't know what error you are getting. is it happening at runtime or you can't even get it built?
Nov 22 18:59:00 <MrMeTooo> burmat once I click the submitt button
Nov 22 18:59:30 <burmat> ahh, probably because you didn't copy the click listener from the paste I just did?
Nov 22 18:59:58 <MrMeTooo> burmat yea thats where im at
Nov 22 19:00:20 <burmat> You have to provide an array now to the ArrayList, not just a single string. So you are getting an error because you are still passing a single string
Nov 22 19:00:44 <burmat> and getView is looking for an array with 3 placeholders
Nov 22 19:05:00 <MrMeTooo> burmat gotcha
Nov 22 19:07:29 <MrMeTooo> burmat I'm keepng the Intent as well right?
Nov 22 19:07:54 <burmat> MrMeTooo: idk what you mean by that : /
Nov 22 19:08:00 <burmat> for your bundle?
Nov 22 19:08:49 <MrMeTooo> burmat yes. If i get rid of the Intent will it still send the data onClick ?
Nov 22 19:11:10 <burmat> idk what your code looks like, but from what i sent you it will work find if you use onclick. I don't have any intents anywhere and when you use the "submit" button it just adds what was in the box and two static strings "med dummy" and "med 2 dummy". If you want to start playing around with intents, you are going to just have to play with it on your end and find something that works
Nov 22 19:11:57 <burmat> literally every string and peice of data you see there is just meant to be placeholdlers for you. Just get the data you need and replace them. and if you don't understand how it works, just compile the class with the project i gave you yesterday and see what's happening
Nov 22 19:13:20 <MrMeTooo> burmat gotcha thanks. sending activity http://pastebin.com/1rU6sXKU
Nov 22 19:13:50 <MrMeTooo> well were im at now making the changes
Nov 22 19:16:31 <burmat> MrMeTooo: so you are taking the input from 2 spinners and an edittext and passing it into your listactivity. why do you need to add multiple items then if you only are passing in one listitem?
Nov 22 19:18:06 <MrMeTooo> burmat thats were the public static ArrayList<String[]> list = new ArrayList<String[]>(); comes into play I want the list to grow on every button press in activity 1
Nov 22 19:18:36 <g00s_> 'update for 'google keyboard' could not be downloaded due to an error (923). oh, android ...
Nov 22 19:18:45 <g00s_> yeah, so what am i supposed to do about it ?
Nov 22 19:20:35 <g00s_> so, what the hell, the back button doesn't seem to be working in the Play store
Nov 22 19:22:43 <Kake_Fisk> Any tips on how to handle multiple screen sizes with a 2D platform game?
Nov 22 19:23:59 <g00s_> that was weird. after force stopping Play store, back behavior was restored
Nov 22 19:34:42 <Kake_Fisk> What is API 19 when API 17 is the current?
Nov 22 19:35:39 <SimonVT> What?
Nov 22 19:35:47 <w9jds_> API 19 is Kit Kat API 17 is 4.2
Nov 22 19:35:55 <Kake_Fisk> ohh
Nov 22 19:36:19 <Kake_Fisk> What would I generally want to develop in if I want to support 2.2 to 4.2?
Nov 22 19:36:40 <w9jds_> Put min. sdk as 2.2 and target sdk as 4.2
Nov 22 19:36:55 <Kake_Fisk> Thanks
Nov 22 19:37:05 <w9jds_> yup
Nov 22 19:37:51 <Kake_Fisk> I have always had a hard time understanding what developers that do not use vector graphics do though
Nov 22 19:39:13 <Zharf> I odn't us graphics
Nov 22 19:39:43 <Kake_Fisk> How do you not use graphics+
Nov 22 19:40:37 <burmat> MrMeTooo: alright, well i guess just do what you did to get it to work this morning, just use String[] instead of String : )
Nov 22 19:40:40 <w9jds_> only graphics I use are images.
Nov 22 19:41:00 <Zharf> Kake_Fisk, weird question!
Nov 22 19:41:24 <coderroadie> friends don't let friends do Graphics.
Nov 22 19:41:31 <w9jds_> ^
Nov 22 19:41:41 <MrMeTooo> burmat on it. Thats what I thought
Nov 22 19:51:42 <Kake_Fisk> There's no problem in targeting 4.4? If in reality I'm targeting 4.2?
Nov 22 19:51:55 <w9jds_> nope
Nov 22 19:52:06 <Kake_Fisk> ah, okay :)
Nov 22 19:52:21 <w9jds_> except some apis might be available for on 4.4 that aren't on lower ones.
Nov 22 19:52:48 <Kake_Fisk> yes, of course :)
Nov 22 20:17:45 <chuckk> I am having a problem with Spinners in a TabPager, is this the right place to ask for help?
Nov 22 20:27:03 <ovrflw0x> i am on linux and trying to create new device - But, i have "CPU/ABI" option "greyed out" and can see onlyl "ARM.." there wtf?
Nov 22 20:27:19 <ovrflw0x> i can't select intel atom
Nov 22 20:27:32 <chuckk> Is there anywhere else that Android developers chat in real time? This is a bit quiet.
Nov 22 20:27:36 <|0xD34D|> did you download the atom image fromt the sdk manager
Nov 22 20:27:58 <evanc> chuckk: #android-dev
Nov 22 20:28:15 <chuckk> This is #android-dev
Nov 22 20:28:42 <ovrflw0x> oh ok
Nov 22 20:28:42 <crosscourt> I'm curious what some of you use for design  mock ups?
Nov 22 20:28:46 <evanc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xECUrlnXCqk
Nov 22 20:29:01 <ovrflw0x> |0xD34D|: sdk manager of eclipse?
Nov 22 20:29:56 <ovrflw0x> |0xD34D|: how to start this "SDK Manager"?
Nov 22 20:30:03 <pfn> type 'android'
Nov 22 20:30:06 <chuckk> Cool joke brah
Nov 22 20:30:37 <g00s_> facebook version  4.0.0.0.2.  … they really get fine grained :)
Nov 22 20:31:34 <chuckk> I am having a problem with Spinners in a TabPager - when the view fragments are restored the Spinner listeners are fired. I can't find any way to prevent this. I can catch the first initialization with a boolean variable, but it won't work after that.
Nov 22 20:31:37 <rodrigo_golive> uhm, anyone facing the following error on android 4.4? "SOMELIB.so has text relocations. This is wasting memory and is a security risk. Please fix."
Nov 22 20:32:01 <g00s_> i guess the Play Store  "designed for phones" tag of shame is in effect
Nov 22 20:32:09 <rodrigo_golive> the application uses mainly NDK, and is running well til 4.3
Nov 22 20:32:28 <chuckk> I have a flag that I'm setting in onPause and OnResume, but the listener is still firing when the fragment is not visible
Nov 22 20:33:28 <ovrflw0x> pfn: where's this intel image? i don't see there
Nov 22 20:33:36 <ovrflw0x> i'm on linux
Nov 22 20:34:18 <ovrflw0x> there's no image for 4.4
Nov 22 20:34:26 <pfn> there's no x86 image for 4.4 yet
Nov 22 20:34:40 <ovrflw0x> so now what should i do will 4.3 image work?
Nov 22 20:36:08 <ovrflw0x> pfn: ?
Nov 22 20:36:34 <chuckk> ovrflw0x: do you need 4.4 API's?
Nov 22 20:36:38 <ovrflw0x> no
Nov 22 20:36:43 <ovrflw0x> i'm just starting out beginner
Nov 22 20:36:51 <chuckk> don't worry about it then
Nov 22 20:37:03 <kjeldahl> ovrflw0x: Intel images typically come a bit later. Also if you need to hook up to the google api/accounts, you need to run the arm images anyway (as they haven't been supported on the intel images previously at least).
Nov 22 20:37:07 <chuckk> just install level 12 and 18 to start with , I would suggest
Nov 22 20:37:25 <g00s_> i'm still using 4.1.1
Nov 22 20:37:57 <chuckk> there can be advantages to building with a higher API level even if you are targeting something else
Nov 22 20:38:34 <chuckk> set min 12 target 18 is pretty good right now
Nov 22 20:38:48 <ovrflw0x> chuckk: i've downloaded "bundle ADT"
Nov 22 20:38:49 <g00s_> yeah, but you better know what you're doing :)
Nov 22 20:39:11 <g00s_> if you just change targetSdk without testing you could wind up in trouble
Nov 22 20:39:16 <SimonVT> Set min to 15
Nov 22 20:39:24 <g00s_> for example, the alarm manager stuff changed in 4.4
Nov 22 20:39:43 <g00s_> the behavior will be determined by your targetSdk
Nov 22 20:39:56 <chuckk> yeah, but he can't install 4.4
Nov 22 20:40:27 <chuckk> I don't think there's too much disadvantage building for Honeycomb tablets as well because of the support library
Nov 22 20:40:45 <chuckk> If I was targetting phones only I'd agree with 15
Nov 22 20:41:19 <chuckk> but it really depends upon your users
Nov 22 20:41:29 <SimonVT> Yeah, gotta get those extra 0.1% users
Nov 22 20:42:01 <SimonVT> At the cost of having to implement compat behavior for a lot of extra api's
Nov 22 20:42:19 <chuckk> my point is, depending on the user base for your app, they may be a lot more than 0.1% of every Android device on the planet
Nov 22 20:42:22 <FabianH> Hey guys
Nov 22 20:42:44 <FabianH> does anyone else has problems with android studio ?
Nov 22 20:42:57 <evanc> FabianH: gonna have to be a lot more specific
Nov 22 20:43:05 <FabianH> i'm getting unsupported method: gradleproject
Nov 22 20:43:12 <FabianH> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20007140/unsupported-method-gradleproject-getbuildscript
Nov 22 20:43:32 <FabianH> suggests a fix, but in my build.gradle there is no classpath..
Nov 22 20:44:19 <SimonVT> Sure there is, or you wouldn't be able to use it for android apps
Nov 22 20:45:21 <SimonVT> Seems like you got your answer there anyway.. Make sure you use gradle 1.8 and 0.6.+ of the android plugin
Nov 22 20:45:30 <desmin88> ever since i minsdk'ed to 14 life has been so easy
Nov 22 20:47:07 <chuckk> has anyone used a spinner in a fragment in a tabpager?
Nov 22 20:48:01 <chuckk> How can I stop the OnItemClickListener from firing when the fragment is recalled prior to display?
Nov 22 20:48:53 <FabianH> http://pastebin.com/vWQtusDn
Nov 22 20:48:59 <FabianH> that's my build.gradle
Nov 22 20:50:12 <SimonVT> Either you have a parent project where the previously mentioned dependency is defined, or your build fails
Nov 22 20:51:13 <FabianH> i tried to import the project.
Nov 22 20:51:26 <FabianH> but there it fails.. i have no clue what to do now..
Nov 22 20:51:49 <chuckk> Anybody ever used Spinner able to help?
Nov 22 20:52:25 <SimonVT> FabianH: http://tools.android.com/tech-docs/new-build-system/user-guide#TOC-Simple-build-files
Nov 22 20:53:22 <SimonVT> Except, use 0.6.+
Nov 22 20:53:37 <burmat> chuckk: may be a stretch, but try adding android:focusable="false" to it
Nov 22 20:55:15 <burmat> chuckk: or maybe try using setOnItemSelectedListener instead?
Nov 22 20:55:30 <burmat> i'm reaching...
Nov 22 20:55:31 <chuckk> whoops, yeah, that's what I'm using
Nov 22 20:55:38 <chuckk> it's not a focus problem
Nov 22 20:55:39 <burmat> okay
Nov 22 20:56:14 <burmat> chuckk: is the actual selection changing when you load up the fragment?
Nov 22 20:56:18 <chuckk> after a spinner is created in a fragment, it's set to a value automatically and that fires the listener
Nov 22 20:56:30 <burmat> chuckk: yeah, because you are changing the selection
Nov 22 20:56:37 <burmat> that's working as it should..
Nov 22 20:56:46 <chuckk> yeah that's right
Nov 22 20:56:58 <chuckk> I've got 6 fragments in the pager, and it destroys and recreates them when they are not adjacent to the current view
Nov 22 20:57:12 <chuckk> when they're recreated, the listener is fired again
Nov 22 20:57:18 <chuckk> I can't find any way to suppress it
Nov 22 20:57:21 <burmat> because you are setting the value again
Nov 22 20:57:29 <burmat> right?
Nov 22 20:57:48 <chuckk> the accepted method is to have a boolean flag that your listener uses to ignore the first instance (i.e. when it is set automatically)
Nov 22 20:58:09 <burmat> chuckk: maybe check the item position and compare that to the default value you are setting it to? If it is, just ignore the event?
Nov 22 20:58:13 <chuckk> but the fragment behaviour in the pager means that it is constantly being re-created
Nov 22 20:58:17 <burmat> chuckk: idk, like I said I am reaching here
Nov 22 20:58:19 <chuckk> but not by OnCreateView
Nov 22 20:58:45 <shvelo> do Fragments work on Android 2.3?
Nov 22 20:59:12 <burmat> but if you have a global variable for your spinner that is assigned to the same value as your default selection, you can just compare that when an event happens to see if you should actually handle it or ignore it
Nov 22 20:59:45 <chuckk> shvelo: only Lists and Dialogs I think
Nov 22 21:00:11 <chuckk> right, the problem is, I can't set that variable again when the fragment goes off screen
Nov 22 21:00:20 <burmat> hmmm...
Nov 22 21:00:40 <burmat> sounds like a stupid problem that someone else must have encountered. I hate spinners.
Nov 22 21:00:56 <burmat> there must be a way to handle it..
Nov 22 21:01:00 <chuckk> It's initially set during OnCreateView and I successfully suppress the first firing ok
Nov 22 21:01:07 <burmat> yeah
Nov 22 21:01:37 <chuckk> but after that it just fires every time I move tabs, even if it doesn't come on screen
Nov 22 21:02:42 <chuckk> I've tried setting it in OnPause/OnResume, Start/Stop, onActivityCreated but the listener is doesn't see the change
Nov 22 21:02:54 <chuckk> I can't work out where in the fragment lifecycle this is happening
Nov 22 21:03:10 <SimonVT> The fragments view is created and destroyed as it moves in and out of the page limit
Nov 22 21:03:27 <FabianH> thank you simonVT :)
Nov 22 21:03:37 <burmat> yeah, those activity lifecycle methods won't run when a frament is destroyed/created
Nov 22 21:03:45 <FabianH> but, it's still not working :)
Nov 22 21:03:46 <SimonVT> So it's likely happening when its view is created
Nov 22 21:03:55 <chuckk> yeah that's right, but OnCreateView doesn't seem to be called when it's created for a second or later time
Nov 22 21:04:06 <FabianH> i'll just stick with eclipse -.-
Nov 22 21:04:15 <SimonVT> Sure it is
Nov 22 21:04:18 <burmat> it should be. absolutely
Nov 22 21:04:43 <msch> anyone got experience building kiosk apps with android? Is there a way to truly hide the navigation bar? what about when it shows the keyboard? are there solutions for this out there or is it all just bad hacks that depend on the device manufacturer?
Nov 22 21:04:45 <chuckk> I've got toasts firing in each method, it just seems really wierd
Nov 22 21:05:20 <chuckk> so, why would "listenersMuted = true;" as a line in the OnCreateView work the first time but not subsequently?
Nov 22 21:05:31 <chuckk> it's not static or anything silly
Nov 22 21:09:16 <chuckk> so my options seem to be to subclass Spinner and override the retaining and restoring stuff and wipe out the automatic functionality, or to manage my listeners outside the fragments and detach and attach them according to my own logic
Nov 22 21:09:27 <chuckk> both ways seem unnecessarily involved.
Nov 22 21:10:04 <burmat> chuckk: i would god with option two
Nov 22 21:10:09 <chuckk> Literally nobody has an answer for this
Nov 22 21:10:24 <burmat> maybe create one listener and then use it to handle all of your spinners
Nov 22 21:10:31 <burmat> idk the scope of your project though
Nov 22 21:10:45 <burmat> i mean, yeah it's a pain in the ass, but there may be no way around it
Nov 22 21:10:58 <SimonVT> There are lots of stackoverflow posts about spinner listener firing too much
Nov 22 21:11:04 <SimonVT> I'm sure one of them has an answer
Nov 22 21:11:16 <chuckk> Yeah, it's a pretty common issue, my SO post got tagged as a duplicate, but it's not
Nov 22 21:11:34 <chuckk> You'll see they all say to use a boolean to suppress the first firing and then it's golden
Nov 22 21:11:39 <chuckk> but that's not true in a pager
Nov 22 21:12:08 <SimonVT> It is a duplicate, there's nothing special about it being in a viewpager
Nov 22 21:12:34 <SimonVT> The fragments view is destroyed when it leaves the offscreen page limits, is created when it enters
Nov 22 21:12:56 <SimonVT> So the spinner listener can only fire between those two callback
Nov 22 21:13:21 <SimonVT> In an activity it would be between oncreate and ondestroy
Nov 22 21:14:04 <chuckk> Right, but it doesn't respect the boolean set in OnPause/Resume, Start/Stop/ActivityCreated etc. which is when the listener is active, even though it's offscreen
Nov 22 21:14:42 <chuckk> As far as I can tell it's because of the fragment trying to recreate the configuration after it's been created for the first time
Nov 22 21:14:44 <yiati> Is there any way I can modify the versionCode and versionName of an app in a Gradle task in my root build.gradle?
Nov 22 21:14:48 <chuckk> so the behaviour is different
Nov 22 21:14:58 <SimonVT> As I said, between onCreateView and onDestroyView
Nov 22 21:15:17 <SimonVT> Those two methods can be called multiple times between onResume and onPause
Nov 22 21:15:50 <chuckk> When you create a fragment the first time, it's cool, but subsequent times, it's doing extra stuff because of the instance state
Nov 22 21:16:00 <chuckk> that's what causes the problems
Nov 22 21:16:46 <SimonVT> View state is restored when the view is created, just like in all those other SO questions
Nov 22 21:17:43 <chuckk> SimonVT:  that's not right, onCreateView and onDestroyView are not called between Resume and Pause - they are called before and after respectively
Nov 22 21:18:07 <SimonVT> If you say so
Nov 22 21:18:12 <burmat> chuckk: I just don't understand why you can't just keep a global variable to handle it has a flag. I mean, it doesn't matter how many times you destory/recreate the fragment, you can keep track of your selects and just figure out the logic on your listener
Nov 22 21:18:26 <chuckk> "if I say so"
Nov 22 21:18:32 <chuckk> wow
Nov 22 21:18:35 <burmat> even in onResume and onPause, it won't change until you update it
Nov 22 21:18:48 <chuckk> Am I wrong about that? I would like to know if I am
Nov 22 21:19:16 <SimonVT> You are right and you are wrong
Nov 22 21:19:21 <SimonVT> For this problem, you are wrong
Nov 22 21:19:45 <chuckk> ah, well I might be getting somewhere then, thanks.
Nov 22 21:20:06 <chuckk> So in this case, onCreateView is called after onResume but before onPause?
Nov 22 21:20:27 <chuckk> That would explain the behaviour, but I have completely misunderstood Fragment lifecycles if that's the case
Nov 22 21:20:53 <SimonVT> When initially added, onCreateView is called first
Nov 22 21:21:09 <chuckk> yes
Nov 22 21:21:13 <SimonVT> When it is removed, onDestroyView is caleld after onPause
Nov 22 21:21:19 <chuckk> yes
Nov 22 21:21:41 <SimonVT> When it is detached because it goes outside the viewpagers limits, its view is destroyed but it is not paused
Nov 22 21:22:32 <chuckk> In this case it is possible for onDestroyView to be called without onPause having been called first?
Nov 22 21:23:41 <bubbleguuum> anyone knows what is exactly required to pass the "design for tablets" check named "Your layout should make use of the available space on tablets" in the dev console optimization tips? The linked doc is not very specific about what is required.
Nov 22 21:24:48 <chuckk> SimonVT: You have confused me, could you please let me know if I have understood you correctly, this is an unknown behaviour to me, and with respect I need to be sure you are correct.
Nov 22 21:25:46 <Kake_Fisk> Is there any problem casting context to activity?
Nov 22 21:25:51 <SimonVT> All that matters is onCreateView and onDestroyView
Nov 22 21:26:07 <SimonVT> Between those two lifecycle methods your listener can be fired
Nov 22 21:27:02 <chuckk> Yes, I understand that, but you said that onDestroyView can be called before onPause - are you sure?
Nov 22 21:27:28 <SimonVT> Almost
Nov 22 21:27:56 <chuckk> Is there somewhere I can read up about that. The API docs don't suggest that at all.
Nov 22 21:28:29 <chuckk> As I said, I'm popping toasts in each step and it appears to follow the lifecycle illustrated in the Fragments documentation
Nov 22 21:29:01 <chuckk> Alright, let's try a different approach. When is the instance state restored in the lifecycle?
Nov 22 21:29:29 <chuckk> after OnCreateView but before OnActivityCreated?
Nov 22 21:29:46 <four33> hello, I ahve a problem with image positions - I have margin left defined in dps, but on devices larger than my test devices, the image is not positioned correctly in the screen - is there a way to set one left measurement (in pixels) to all device widths?
Nov 22 21:30:12 <SimonVT> You should use log statements instead of toasts
Nov 22 21:30:16 <four33> (in percentage)**
Nov 22 21:30:56 <chuckk> This is for convenience while I am building, don't concern yourself. I find it easier than switching screens or remote logging.
Nov 22 21:33:23 <four33> hello?
Nov 22 21:33:38 <chuckk> Anyway, I do not agree at all that onDestroyView can be called before onPause. I think that you are wrong.
Nov 22 21:34:40 <burmat> chuckk: set up a demo app to log the events. my understanding was onPause when moved over, onDestroy when moved over again. I mean, the docs are pretty straight forward and i'm not reading anything about onPause not getting called occasionally.
Nov 22 21:34:50 <burmat> chuckk: http://developer.android.com/guide/components/fragments.html#Lifecycle
Nov 22 21:35:37 <SimonVT> Probably
Nov 22 21:35:42 <burmat> chuckk: maybe if you programmatically changed fragments it would cause onPause to not fire, but otherwise I don't see that case happening.
Nov 22 21:35:54 <four33>  hello, I ahve a problem with image positions - I have margin left defined in dps, but on devices larger than my test devices, the image is not positioned correctly in the screen - is there a way to set one left measurement (in pixels) to all device widths?
Nov 22 21:36:03 <chuckk> So I still have this unwanted behaviour: when the fragment recalls its instance state, listeners attached to Spinners fire, and do not respect the mechanism that works in onCreateView
Nov 22 21:36:19 <burmat> back to that then lol..
Nov 22 21:36:34 <SimonVT> Maybe your listener is called twice
Nov 22 21:37:11 <burmat> maybe, or maybe you are just setting it twice which is causing it to trigger. which would def happen after an onDestory event, possibly on an onPause event
Nov 22 21:37:51 <chuckk> no, only once because of onCreateView, suppress-able as detailed on SO, then once when the instance is restored - apparently un-suppress-able
Nov 22 21:37:55 <burmat> what if you created a seperate class to handle the current state of the spinners using the context you are using for the fragment? and just grab them based on the fragment index
Nov 22 21:38:17 <burmat> when i say current state i mean current selection
Nov 22 21:38:30 <burmat> idk man
Nov 22 21:38:34 <chuckk> burmat: thanks for all this, but I feel like I need to override the recall behaviour
Nov 22 21:38:45 <burmat> you are probably right
Nov 22 21:38:45 <chuckk> I just feel like I can't be the only person who's ever come across this
Nov 22 21:38:53 <burmat> i highly doubt you are
Nov 22 21:39:19 <chuckk> but I can't find anything about solutions anywhere
Nov 22 21:39:22 <chuckk> ah well
Nov 22 21:39:27 <chuckk> thanks for all your help
Nov 22 21:39:57 <chuckk> it's still better than XULrunner LOL
Nov 22 21:41:14 <burmat> well good luck man, let us know if you figure it out
Nov 22 21:41:18 <four33> hello
Nov 22 21:42:03 <chuckk> will do, this needs an answer!
Nov 22 21:42:26 <four33> hello
Nov 22 21:44:57 <four33> hello.
Nov 22 21:45:04 <chuckk> hello four33
Nov 22 21:45:09 <burmat> lol
Nov 22 21:45:12 <four33> wtf
Nov 22 21:45:25 <four33> did you see my question regarding imageviews and positioning?
Nov 22 21:45:33 <burmat> explain your problem again
Nov 22 21:46:03 <burmat> are you trying to center it or just use a margin?
Nov 22 21:46:06 <chuckk> if you want to set an absolute position in pixels, you can do that, but it is not recommended
Nov 22 21:46:28 <four33> I have two images stacked in a relativelayout, the upper image is positioned with "dp", but on screen resolutions larger than the one im testing on, the upper image is not positioned correctly, and is the wrong width
Nov 22 21:46:29 <chuckk> RelativeLayout is your annoying friend I would guess
Nov 22 21:46:48 <chuckk> is it scaling?
Nov 22 21:46:50 <four33> im wondering if there's a way to set the position and width with percentage so it'll be uniform
Nov 22 21:46:58 <four33> no, I set a width also
Nov 22 21:47:10 <chuckk> I mean, it is scaling proportionally?
Nov 22 21:47:15 <four33> negative
Nov 22 21:47:25 <chuckk> have a look at the scaling type
Nov 22 21:48:32 <Kake_Fisk> Not sure if I should use Activity or SurfaceView as the top class of my game hierarchy
Nov 22 21:48:44 <Kake_Fisk> Any thoughts=
Nov 22 21:48:46 <Kake_Fisk> ?*
Nov 22 21:49:12 <four33> im not sure how to use ScaleType
Nov 22 21:49:52 <four33> there are no possibilities for % positioning?
Nov 22 21:50:03 <burmat> four33: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/ImageView.ScaleType.html
Nov 22 21:50:16 <burmat> for you can use DisplayMetrics to get the screen with and conver that to a percent
Nov 22 21:50:48 <burmat> then use LayoutParams to apply the margins you want
Nov 22 21:51:03 <burmat> that's one option. it sucks but it's an option
Nov 22 21:51:15 <four33> what about from within XML?
Nov 22 21:52:33 <four33> im not really sure how adding scaleType would help if i'm using dps to position left and bottom
Nov 22 21:52:42 <burmat> gonna have to rely on density pixels (dp) then and make sure your IV has the proper attributes to not get skewed. like scaletype and stuff
Nov 22 21:53:34 <burmat> you could try playing around with layouts and set the weight instead of using width, but i doubt that would give you the desired result.
Nov 22 21:54:18 <burmat> I would just make the suckers on the fly if you, might be easier to debug down the road if you just use arithmetic.
Nov 22 21:54:25 <burmat> if i were you*
Nov 22 21:58:00 <four33> super confusing
Nov 22 21:59:02 <burmat> yeah, but do it once and you learn how to do it forever.
Nov 22 21:59:07 <four33> scaleType doesn't work at all
Nov 22 21:59:50 <four33> I would have thought dp would account for the size of the screen
Nov 22 22:03:56 <four33> so best to make some helper functions that calculate screen width and height then position imageview and set width based on aspect ratio?
Nov 22 22:07:56 <SimonVT> dp is a physical size
Nov 22 22:08:08 <SimonVT> 160dp is 1 inch
Nov 22 22:08:27 <four33> is there a relative size?
Nov 22 22:10:58 <Yatekii> Anyone knows how I can stop the goddamn logcat in Android Studio from scrolling uppon update?
Nov 22 22:15:44 <four33> and AbsoluteLayout is deprecated?
Nov 22 22:16:09 <Kake_Fisk> Logic in SurfaceView or MainActivity?
Nov 22 22:20:59 <theblang> Yatekii lol, isn't that the most annoying thing ever.  not just in android studio, but anytime it happens
Nov 22 22:21:08 <yiati> Does anyone know if I could modify the versionCode and versionName of an app through a Gradle task in my root build.gradle?
Nov 22 22:21:58 <yiati> By actually accessing the versionCode and versionName in the build.gradle rather than doing a replacement regex of the AndroidManifest
Nov 22 22:22:23 <Yatekii> theblang: yeah and you cannot kill dat feature
Nov 22 22:22:26 <Yatekii> well I call it a bug
Nov 22 22:22:35 <Yatekii> so damn retarded .. no sense in it
Nov 22 22:32:02 <dzan> pff finally got the OTA nexus 4 android 4.4 update then it failed :s
Nov 22 22:32:02 <dzan> could no longer boot my nexus 4, so downloaded factory image
Nov 22 22:32:02 <dzan> tried to flash it with fastboot:
Nov 22 22:32:02 <dzan> sending 'bootloader' (2203 KB)...
Nov 22 22:32:02 <dzan> FAILED (data transfer failure (Value too large for defined data type))
Nov 22 22:32:04 <dzan> any clues?
Nov 22 22:39:57 <evanc> Yatekii / theblang: just click on the line you're interested in and it will stop scrolling
Nov 22 22:47:10 <yiati> Hello, how are you all
Nov 22 22:51:13 <lasserix> Hello. What's the way to force an activity to resize / draw its layout? I have a view i'm toggling visibility between gone/visible above a listview and need to the listview to move below it when i toggle it to be visible
Nov 22 23:00:22 <lasserix> nm
Nov 22 23:02:14 <pfn> requestLayout
Nov 22 23:02:23 <pfn> but toggling visibility does that alreadyt
Nov 22 23:03:20 <lasserix> pfn: yeah thanks, didn't see that the previous coder was using a relative layout instead of a listview
Nov 22 23:03:23 <lasserix> err linear
Nov 22 23:04:26 <FabianH> hey guys
Nov 22 23:05:03 <FabianH> is there a way to have a column in sqlite that is unique but has an exeption?
Nov 22 23:05:17 <pfn> no
Nov 22 23:05:25 <pfn> if it is not unique it is not unique
Nov 22 23:05:28 <FabianH> i need smth like that..
Nov 22 23:06:17 <FabianH> daaaaayum
Nov 22 23:06:55 <lasserix> use pid and then use a pid bitmask
Nov 22 23:06:57 <pfn> what does this buy you?
Nov 22 23:07:02 <pfn> if you have a duplicate then it is not unique
Nov 22 23:07:03 <pfn> period
Nov 22 23:07:16 <lasserix> primary key col and then primary key column with some bitmask
Nov 22 23:07:20 <lasserix> normally they are all 0000
Nov 22 23:07:29 <lasserix> masked can trigger whatever you need
Nov 22 23:07:48 <lasserix> but as pfn says this is no different from just what you'd normally do
Nov 22 23:08:09 <FabianH> i now declared another column as unique..
Nov 22 23:08:23 <FabianH> it's just not the best solution for me, but i works :)
Nov 22 23:08:35 <FabianH> just wanted to know if there was smth
Nov 22 23:08:39 <FabianH> thanks guys
Nov 22 23:17:25 <jedir0x> So i'm having a problem on two devices.  The QA guy installs the build via test flight - and whenever he goes to the launcher (by pressing home) and comes back to the app, the app doesnt' restore it's state - it opens at the home screen. HOWEVER, once i plug it into the debugger and run it there, it works fine (app properly restores state to the last visible screen).  Has anyone here experienced this before?
Nov 22 23:31:14 <Yatekii> anyone here familiar with sqlite + Android?
Nov 22 23:36:13 <four33> I'm very new to Android dev - should I be supporting older versions of Android? Is there a statistic on how many users are on which API version?
Nov 22 23:36:14 <QbY> If there are any developers in Los Angeles looking for full time work, please ping me...  We're looking for more team members.
Nov 22 23:37:25 <JesusFreke> QbY: no recruitment :)
Nov 22 23:37:37 <JesusFreke> (see #topic)
Nov 22 23:37:39 <QbY> JesusFreke: Ooops. Sorry, didn't know.
Nov 22 23:37:44 <QbY> oh shit.
Nov 22 23:37:48 * QbY hangs head in shame
Nov 22 23:39:38 <agy2154> Does anyone here know why I keep getting a "java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to instantiate activity ComponentInfo"
Nov 22 23:40:28 <evanc> because ComponentInfo isn't an activity
Nov 22 23:40:37 <evanc> agy2154: also, we can't see your source code
Nov 22 23:40:53 <agy2154> ohh
Nov 22 23:41:20 <agy2154> My bad. I'm going to post my source code for both activities.
Nov 22 23:41:29 <agy2154> Sorry, I just got back to android Dev after a year.
Nov 22 23:42:50 <agy2154> http://pastebin.com/pF1kShg0
Nov 22 23:46:25 <Yatekii> any guy here that can tell me why cursor.getSting() says I try to read at index -1 when my Debugger tells me it is 0 ?
Nov 22 23:48:07 <steeve> hey guys
Nov 22 23:48:21 <steeve> is there a changelog between android 4.2 and 4.3 somewhere ?
Nov 22 23:48:52 <evanc> http://www.android.com/about/jelly-bean/
Nov 22 23:49:18 <evanc> it's by no means comprehensive
Nov 22 23:49:41 <steeve> i'm looking for linker changes
Nov 22 23:49:47 <steeve> specifically
Nov 22 23:53:03 <evanc> git log the relevant project, then
Nov 22 23:53:44 <gdrc> QbY: wich company?
Nov 22 23:54:20 <evanc> steeve: changelogs like that don't really get written for android, to my knowledge (I've never seen one)
Nov 22 23:54:42 <steeve> crap :/
Nov 22 23:54:48 <steeve> they changed something in 4.3
Nov 22 23:54:55 <steeve> which makes my program work nicely
Nov 22 23:55:08 <steeve> where in 4.2.2 it doesn't even start, due to missing symbol
Nov 22 23:55:25 <steeve> i have a .so importing symbols from the main program (done via "extern")
Nov 22 23:56:52 <Arkky> Hello, I would like to use the jsch.jar (secure ssh transfert protocol classes) on my android application. Is that possible to simply import it or will I get version problem? =-O
Nov 22 23:57:06 <Arkky> Do I need to "convert" my jar into something else
Nov 22 23:57:16 <four33> Does anyone know why Animation.stop() and Animation.reset() might not be working on Tablets only?
Nov 22 23:57:46 <four33> sorry .cancel()
Nov 23 00:02:07 <Yatekii>      Caused by: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Couldn't read row 0, col 1 from CursorWindow.  Make sure the Cursor is initialized correctly before accessing data from it.  LOL I can SEE in the debugger that it is properly initialized LOL
Nov 23 00:02:14 <Yatekii> wow this is so dumb
Nov 23 00:04:00 <jedir0x> So i'm having a problem on two devices.  The QA guy installs the build via test flight - and whenever he goes to the launcher (by pressing home) and comes back to the app, the app doesnt' restore it's state - it opens at the home screen. HOWEVER, once i plug it into the debugger and run it there, it works fine (app properly restores state to the last visible screen).  Has anyone here experienced this before?
Nov 23 00:06:44 <evanc> agy2154: I suspect you're not reading your whole log message; would you mind sharing the whole line?
Nov 23 00:07:23 <agy2154> Sure
Nov 23 00:07:28 <agy2154> evanc: 11-22 19:07:15.890: E/AndroidRuntime(1397): FATAL EXCEPTION: main 11-22 19:07:15.890: E/AndroidRuntime(1397): Process: com.TechDigy.parabolicmotion, PID: 1397 11-22 19:07:15.890: E/AndroidRuntime(1397): android.content.ActivityNotFoundException: No Activity found to handle Intent { act=com.techdigy.ParabolicMotion.Results } 11-22 19:07:15.890: E/AndroidRuntime(1397): 	at android.app.Instrumentation.checkStartActivityResu
Nov 23 00:07:46 <agy2154> I changed the activity name in the android manifest for some testing
Nov 23 00:07:48 <agy2154> It says it can't find it
Nov 23 00:07:58 <g00s> jedir0x go into dev options and select something like 'destroy background activities' or something that sounds like that
Nov 23 00:07:58 <agy2154> I've been having problems with this project recently in eclipse
Nov 23 00:08:20 <jedir0x> g00s, ok
Nov 23 00:08:33 <jedir0x> g00s, you may have just become my hero man
Nov 23 00:11:53 <g00s> jedir0x Settings / Dev Options / Apps / Don't keep activities
Nov 23 00:12:08 <g00s> if you see your problem on your good device with this, then - you
Nov 23 00:12:10 <lasserix> Why does grid view ignore layout_width?
Nov 23 00:12:17 <g00s> you aren't saving state somehow
Nov 23 00:23:00 <steeve> any android ndk guru here
Nov 23 00:23:01 <steeve> ?
Nov 23 00:23:10 <steeve> need help regarding the android's linker
Nov 23 00:25:45 <agy2154> Would you prefer Intellij compared to eclipse? Can I easily transfer my projects
Nov 23 00:25:46 <agy2154> ?
Nov 23 00:26:27 <gdrc> eclipse
Nov 23 00:28:02 <agy2154> gdrc: thanks
Nov 23 00:28:04 <g00s> vim!
Nov 23 00:28:15 <gdrc> gh
Nov 23 00:28:19 <g00s> (or emacs) ;)
Nov 23 00:28:29 <gdrc> do you really use vim, g00s ?
Nov 23 00:28:41 <g00s> i use vim, AS, and eclipse
Nov 23 00:29:02 <g00s> not so much eclipse any more for android though, but for lua
Nov 23 00:29:08 <g00s> xtext, etc
Nov 23 00:29:24 <g00s> paho
Nov 23 00:29:44 <g00s> i use vim when AS goes crazy ;)
Nov 23 00:29:57 <gdrc> I see
Nov 23 00:30:55 <g00s> i thought there would be an AS update today , guess not
Nov 23 00:33:52 <agy2154> evanc: It turns out it wasn't the manifest that was causing the problems. It was ABS and now R isn't being generated.
Nov 23 00:36:08 <evanc> agy2154: that makes no sense but okay
Nov 23 00:36:46 <agy2154> evanc: Lol I'm going to try to get back to you soon. I'm going to fix the problem.
Nov 23 00:44:17 <lasserix> how to set the maximum width of a gridview ?
Nov 23 00:44:42 <lasserix> do i have ovveride on measure, cause no matter what i do it always match full width of root parent
Nov 23 00:45:05 <agy2154> evanc: turns out had to ABS libs
Nov 23 00:45:55 <Yatekii> wow sqlit3 so fast
Nov 23 00:47:16 <g00s> Yatekii especially in-memory :)
Nov 23 01:00:10 <Arkky> Hi guys, I have a problem when running my app, it doesn't even launch. I guess this is a configuration problem. Here are the logs http://pastebin.com/KXxW41jE   Otherwise the error is : java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to instantiate activity ComponentInfo{com.example.msync/com.example.msync.MainActivity}: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Didn't find class "com.example.msync.MainActivity" on path: DexPathList[[zip file "/data/app/
Nov 23 01:00:22 <Arkky> If anyone has a problem it would be great :)
Nov 23 01:00:27 <Arkky> a tips for the problem*
Nov 23 01:04:39 <agy2154> Arkky: I was undergoing similar problems.
Nov 23 01:04:51 <agy2154> I'll try my best to help you out. I've just got back to android recently.
Nov 23 01:05:16 <agy2154> Can you post your manifest.xml?
Nov 23 01:05:18 <Arkky> agy2154:  thanks :) I have no idea, some people on the web said to check the manifest
Nov 23 01:05:22 <Arkky> on my way
Nov 23 01:05:27 <agy2154> I can check it for you
Nov 23 01:05:31 <agy2154> Thanks
Nov 23 01:05:44 <agy2154> \help
Nov 23 01:05:47 <agy2154> !help
Nov 23 01:05:49 <agy2154> help
Nov 23 01:05:51 <agy2154> lol sorry
Nov 23 01:05:57 <agy2154> Trying to figure out how to change nickname
Nov 23 01:06:34 <Arkky> agy2154:  here is the manifest: http://pastebin.com/z0S54K1u
Nov 23 01:07:10 <Arkky>  try /nick <new_pseudo>
Nov 23 01:08:36 <agy2154> Arkky: Thanks I'm checking it.
Nov 23 01:11:50 <agy2154> Replace
Nov 23 01:11:52 <agy2154> Arkky
Nov 23 01:12:13 <agy2154> Arkky: Replace Intent("com.example.msync.MainActivity") with Intent("android.intent.action.MAIN");
Nov 23 01:13:00 <agy2154> Arkky: Also do you have a java file called MainActivity.Java?
Nov 23 01:14:15 <Arkky> AndreYonadam: Okay done, I rebuild
Nov 23 01:14:32 <AndreYonadam> Arkky: Alright test it out and tell me how everything goes.
Nov 23 01:14:34 <Arkky> and no I don't have a MainActivity.java
Nov 23 01:15:11 <Arkky> it's msync.java, the name of my app
Nov 23 01:15:42 <AndreYonadam> That's the java file you want to launch when you want to open the app? is that the java file under SRC and your package name?
Nov 23 01:16:41 <Arkky> Yes it is, should I rename it ?
Nov 23 01:16:51 <Arkky> I still have the same problem after the rebuild
Nov 23 01:16:58 <AndreYonadam> I mean
Nov 23 01:17:03 <AndreYonadam> It would be easier to change the manifest
Nov 23 01:17:24 <AndreYonadam> com.example.msync.MainActivity to com.example.msync.msync
Nov 23 01:17:41 <AndreYonadam> Also Make your classes Capital
Nov 23 01:17:45 <AndreYonadam> like Msync.java
Nov 23 01:17:57 <AndreYonadam> and Mysnc
Nov 23 01:19:11 <Arkky> AndreYonadam: okay done thank you, I retry!
Nov 23 01:19:22 <Arkky> my class name is MSync.java so I've put:
Nov 23 01:19:30 <Arkky>           android:name="com.example.msync.MSync"
Nov 23 01:19:35 <AndreYonadam> yeah
Nov 23 01:19:37 <AndreYonadam> try that
Nov 23 01:20:40 <Arkky> AndreYonadam: It's working !! Yeahhh :D
Nov 23 01:20:43 <Arkky> thanks a lot !!
Nov 23 01:20:50 <AndreYonadam> Arkky: Lol Anytime :D
Nov 23 01:25:50 <lasserix> if i have four imageviews returned in getview of a gridview, is there any way to center them if their total width is less than the width of the phone (i dont want equal spacing between them, just equal padding on the outsides)
Nov 23 01:27:08 <AndreYonadam> idk layout gravity?
Nov 23 01:28:29 <lasserix> yeah it still doesn't work
Nov 23 01:28:43 <lasserix> tried wrapping in a relative layout with said idea
Nov 23 01:44:35 <mntwins7__> Hello
Nov 23 01:44:51 <mntwins7__> I need some help
Nov 23 01:45:29 <mntwins7__> Anyone here?
Nov 23 01:46:48 <mntwins7__> ?
Nov 23 01:53:29 <lasserix> if i override physical search long key press, will it not work if i have activity to singletask?
Nov 23 02:28:21 <maven__> hi, is it possible to handle the BACK key pressed event duing a ProgessBar is showing?
Nov 23 02:28:49 <four33> is there a lowest resolution/API that y'all support, or is it best practice to try and support all of them?
Nov 23 02:38:36 <dragorn> four33: depends on your target audience and how much hassle it is
Nov 23 02:38:46 <dragorn> four33: 2.3 is about 25% of the market still
Nov 23 02:39:15 <four33> that's level 10?
Nov 23 02:40:26 <Peetz0r> 2.3.3 ~ 2.3.7 is api 10
Nov 23 02:40:32 <Peetz0r> 2.3.0 is even api 9
Nov 23 02:41:30 <Peetz0r> my current app supports api 9 (altough it's hard to find any device which runs any other gingerbread than 2.3.7 :p
Nov 23 02:42:03 <four33> sucks
Nov 23 02:42:16 <Peetz0r> I see that api 9 has a user share of less than 0.1% so I actually don't care
Nov 23 02:42:30 <Peetz0r> (I might change my minimum api to 10 after all)
Nov 23 02:42:35 <Peetz0r> http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html
Nov 23 02:42:49 <canadiancow> four33, people on 2.3 are on old or cheap devices, so if you're trying to sell stuff, target people who spend money on hardware ;)
Nov 23 02:43:08 <canadiancow> if i were starting a new app today, i'd likely do ICS+
Nov 23 02:43:12 <Peetz0r> canadiancow: no, there are enough high-end devices with 2.3 on it
Nov 23 02:43:13 <four33> im just using a getSize() method which requires min level of 13
Nov 23 02:43:32 <canadiancow> Peetz0r, OLD high end devices maybe
Nov 23 02:43:36 <Peetz0r> four33: isn't there something you can use in the support libraries?
Nov 23 02:43:42 <dragorn> if your app doesn't need new features, you might as well support the older stuff
Nov 23 02:43:42 <canadiancow> but if they were new, they wouldnt launch with GB
Nov 23 02:43:47 <Peetz0r> canadiancow: not that old
Nov 23 02:44:00 <dragorn> most of my stuff requires 4.x only features so that decision is made for me
Nov 23 02:44:06 <dragorn> the one that could support 2.x, I just don't bother
Nov 23 02:44:15 <canadiancow> im pretty sure that OEMs havent been allowed to launch GB on devices that can run ICS for a couple years
Nov 23 02:44:31 <Peetz0r> some devices have upgrades to 4.x, but not all users actually do the update
Nov 23 02:44:31 <canadiancow> anyway, my recommendation today is ICS+
Nov 23 02:44:37 <four33> @Peetzor: Not sure... I've never used them
Nov 23 02:44:54 <canadiancow> the cost of supporting GB is, in my opinion, not worth the effort
Nov 23 02:44:59 <Peetz0r> some OTA upgrades are also limited to some counties or some carriers, leaving certain users on a different version than others
Nov 23 02:45:17 <Peetz0r> the cost of supporting GB is, in my experience, not really a problem
Nov 23 02:45:31 <Peetz0r> 26% of the android users are still on GB
Nov 23 02:45:40 <SpeedEvil> I bought a Froyo device last year
Nov 23 02:45:41 <dragorn> Completely depends on what your app does.
Nov 23 02:45:46 <SpeedEvil> Actually - no - this year
Nov 23 02:45:48 <SpeedEvil> New
Nov 23 02:45:57 <SpeedEvil> Nook Simple Touch
Nov 23 02:46:21 <dragorn> Which brings us back to, "if if doesn't really hurt to support 2.x, by all means, do it".  if your app requires high-end features or stuff that only exists in 4.x, eh.
Nov 23 02:46:23 <Peetz0r> bottom line, you'll have to support GB for at least a while
Nov 23 02:46:53 <Peetz0r> you could limit some features of your app to 4.x, or make it look somewhat less pretty
Nov 23 02:47:49 <Peetz0r> and I would simple not support tablets on 2.3, it's safe to assume that tablets run 3.0 or later (and 99.9% of those run 4.x)
Nov 23 02:48:30 <Peetz0r> we can practically ignore the whole 3.x 'accident', while 2.3.x is still quite big
Nov 23 02:49:02 <four33> my app breaks below API 13 because the feature I need isn't available before then
Nov 23 02:49:06 <four33> it's really odd
Nov 23 02:49:20 <dragorn> four33: if you care about supporting it then you need to figure out a work-around
Nov 23 02:49:51 <Peetz0r> What feature are you using?
Nov 23 02:50:44 <four33> Display.getSize()!
Nov 23 02:51:07 <four33> I guess I could do an alternative if the build version is lower than a certain level
Nov 23 02:53:36 <Peetz0r> use getWidth and getHeight for <13 and use getSize for >= 13
Nov 23 02:54:02 <four33> yeah
Nov 23 02:54:11 <four33> but for some reason getWidth and get Height really don't seem accurate
Nov 23 02:54:17 <Peetz0r> the getWidth and getHeight methods are deprecated since 13, in favor of getSize, but they provide more or less the same functionality in a different form
Nov 23 02:54:18 <four33> or at least they're returning different than getSize
Nov 23 02:54:29 <Peetz0r> oh, that's weird
Nov 23 02:54:37 <four33> yep
Nov 23 02:55:14 <Peetz0r> try comparing getSize and getRealSize on a api >= 13 device
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