**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Nov 28 02:59:58 2013 Nov 28 03:11:34 what the heck. I'm sending an Intent, with an extras bundle that looks like: Bundle[{value1=herpderp, value2=derpherp}]. In my receiver (onStartCommand in a service, I'm sending it there via a PendingIntent), it's coming back as: Bundle[{value2=derpherp}]. This one is melting my brain. Nov 28 03:14:08 I get the same behaviour if I use the Intent's direct putExtra() method or if I make my own bundle and putExtras(). Nov 28 03:16:59 oho. ghosts of the past. I'm getting an old PendingIntent that is surviving recreations of the notifications and reinstalls of the app. Nov 28 03:42:48 i love otto/event bus's Nov 28 03:43:17 makes fragment - fragment/ fragment - activity communication so easy. Nov 28 03:50:45 Hi Nov 28 03:51:12 yo Nov 28 03:51:25 Hows it going Nov 28 03:51:53 grand Nov 28 03:52:10 Good good Nov 28 03:53:18 okayy Nov 28 03:53:47 Im drunk lol Nov 28 03:54:14 Can I add a new fragment "ontop" of an another so the other fragment isnt killed? Nov 28 03:55:11 Fragment.ontop (other) Nov 28 03:56:34 thanks Nov 28 03:57:01 Anytime bro Nov 28 03:58:16 learned something new. cool Nov 28 03:58:30 whatd you learn Nov 28 04:00:03 How to fragment Nov 28 04:00:18 about ontop Nov 28 04:01:08 thats not an actual thing Nov 28 04:01:17 hehe Nov 28 04:01:21 *hides* Nov 28 04:01:53 although my original question stands Nov 28 04:02:22 <_genuser_> if I see my galaxy s4 device in explorer as a drive, eclipse should be able to see it for debugging? Nov 28 04:03:05 Check the ddms _genuser_ Nov 28 04:03:50 Shoyld be right thurr Nov 28 04:04:08 <_genuser_> CocoStorm: thx. let me find ddms in eclipse. Nov 28 04:05:19 <_genuser_> nothing under devices. Nov 28 04:05:32 <_genuser_> does that mean the driver isn't correct or my phone options aren't correct? Nov 28 04:05:59 Genuser you should check your phone first make sure yoyve set it as debuggable Nov 28 04:06:04 In the settings Nov 28 04:06:09 Then check your driver Nov 28 04:06:49 Is there a way to get a bitmap of a viewgroup and all of its visible children? Nov 28 04:07:01 <_genuser_> CocoStorm: developer options -> USB debugging is checked. Nov 28 04:07:27 I see yes then maybe its a driver issue Nov 28 04:07:54 <_genuser_> CocoStorm: thanks. I'll google some more. hopefully I can get it working quickly. Nov 28 04:09:20 Genuser also try checking use as media device Nov 28 04:09:28 If its not already Nov 28 04:17:35 urgh Nov 28 04:18:36 <_genuser_> CocoStorm: yeah, the Use as media device is checked. When I plugged it in, windows auto installed a driver. I'm thinking it isn't the Samsung provided driver so might be missing functionality. Nov 28 04:19:09 <_genuser_> I was happy using the emulator until this app which works perfect on the emulator but not on the phone. Nov 28 04:19:22 Yeah drivers then Nov 28 04:20:16 <_genuser_> CocoStorm: altho, my emulator is 4.0.3 and my phone is 4.3. Maybe if I upgrade the emulator it will give me the same problem and I can debug the little punk. Nov 28 04:22:57 In any case you need to run it on your device eventually Nov 28 04:23:33 <_genuser_> true that. :) Nov 28 04:24:49 fuck this Nov 28 04:24:55 im just going to cave in and do 2 activities Nov 28 04:24:56 2 fragments Nov 28 04:25:27 Sorry I couldnt help desmin88 lol theres usually someone more advanced around Nov 28 04:25:40 its ok Nov 28 04:26:59 Ive never had to use fragments I mean Nov 28 04:34:56 there just seems to no good/all shit examples for tis Nov 28 05:01:17 Are there device usage stats by country anywhere? Nov 28 05:01:47 in what context Nov 28 05:02:25 Well, at some point, I'm going to develop an app, and I'm curious how many people are still running 2.x Nov 28 05:02:43 I haven't seen anything that is only the US Nov 28 05:03:00 oh Nov 28 05:03:07 well i can say that Nov 28 05:03:19 28% of all devices in the world approximately are api < 14 Nov 28 05:03:30 so thats 2.x Nov 28 05:03:39 Yes, but how many of those devices are out of the US? Nov 28 05:04:04 idk lol Nov 28 05:04:06 30% is not small, but if half of those are elsewhere, then I'll just write the other 15% off Nov 28 05:04:13 a lot of them Nov 28 05:04:16 are in india/china etc Nov 28 05:04:23 'developing countries' Nov 28 05:04:29 Yeah, that's what I am getting at Nov 28 05:05:02 Basically, setMinSdkVersion="14" Nov 28 05:05:04 theres no point Nov 28 05:06:30 gb will be dead soon Nov 28 05:06:38 its something like >2% every month Nov 28 05:09:59 anyone have any problems with their phone displaying off color? Nov 28 05:10:51 nope Nov 28 05:12:20 is there any alternative to passing data between activity - activity than bundle with a parcelable? Nov 28 05:12:40 use fragments instead of activities Nov 28 05:12:45 use an application singleton Nov 28 05:13:00 i am using fragments too Nov 28 05:13:10 oh Nov 28 05:13:18 you can serialize your data as a string and pass it as a string extra Nov 28 05:13:24 ^^ Nov 28 05:13:31 im afraid that wouldnt work Nov 28 05:13:36 e.g. with gson just use json.toString(src) Nov 28 05:13:54 what's your use case? Nov 28 05:14:05 Master/detail flow Nov 28 05:14:19 So, activity can either be passing some item to a new activity, or to a fragment Nov 28 05:14:22 This item Nov 28 05:14:25 is monster sized Nov 28 05:14:41 application singleton? Nov 28 05:14:44 Then go the singleton route Nov 28 05:15:00 ok, i will Nov 28 05:15:02 thanks guys Nov 28 05:15:15 btw: http://pastebin.com/JnrguHAp Nov 28 05:15:29 that aint no monster Nov 28 05:15:30 That is the first level. its just goes the wordpress post rabbit hole Nov 28 05:15:58 http://gyazo.com/5f9263cdec15b0994a772c2549cffe69 Nov 28 05:16:08 ohh Nov 28 05:16:10 All of these classes are required to make 1 post object. Nov 28 05:16:13 you can use private content provider Nov 28 05:16:52 i dont think thatd work Nov 28 05:17:16 it would but probably too much overhead Nov 28 05:17:17 I get these post objects off a rest api, gson-them, add them to a list, display list. Nov 28 05:17:31 why the interactivity? Nov 28 05:17:54 hmm? Nov 28 05:18:05 why pass it between activities? Nov 28 05:18:50 Activity 1 (the master list) can pass it to Activity 2 (detail view) or fragment 2(detail view) Nov 28 05:19:09 wait Nov 28 05:19:19 wait Nov 28 05:19:27 make activity 2 a fragment Nov 28 05:19:41 what if my application singleton holds my list data, then in my bundles i just pass the position? Nov 28 05:20:38 why not just make activity 2 that is on top of the first fragment of the activity? Nov 28 05:20:46 *make a fragment Nov 28 05:21:22 okay but the issue still remains Nov 28 05:21:47 2 activities simplifies backing though. Nov 28 05:23:00 If I'm calling a variable from another activity in a fragment like com.app.whatever.variable is it being cashed incase its called again? Nov 28 05:23:01 one activity with multiple states, you can use a non ui fragment to hold the data (With set instancestate true) then pull from that fragment in whatever other fragment (activity 2) Nov 28 05:24:02 * LuisLeite good evening Nov 28 05:25:53 lasserix: thats a possibility Nov 28 05:26:43 Hey guys, I'm using the JAVA - ADT here and I'm trying to create a socket object. I have ` Socket s = new Socket("www.google.com", 81);` For some reason, it tells me "Unhandled exception type IOException" even before I even launch the application. Oh and I did import java.io.IOException Nov 28 05:28:08 well uhh Nov 28 05:28:12 http://imgur.com/jacoj Nov 28 05:28:42 hahah sorry sorry, I came here too fast. I think I'll have to use "try{}catch(){}" Nov 28 05:28:58 desmin88: And there's no stacktrace, I haven't launched the application yet Nov 28 05:29:14 oh i see what youre saying Nov 28 05:29:14 lol Nov 28 05:29:29 catch(IOException e) Nov 28 05:29:37 do you have that anywhere? Nov 28 05:29:54 If I'm calling a variable from another activity in a fragment like com.app.whatever.variable is it being cashed incase its called again? Nov 28 05:30:03 If I'm calling a variable from another activity in a fragment like com.app.whatever.variable is it being cashed incase its called again? Nov 28 05:30:05 f2prateek: I'll use catch(Exception e) instead, since Socket can also throw UnknownHostException, which is not an IOException. Am I right in doing so? Nov 28 05:30:12 Wait, if variables are received from another activity anyways doesn't mean that its already cached because its the same variable? Nov 28 05:30:15 AndreYonadam: y u do dis? Nov 28 05:30:22 My bad Nov 28 05:30:29 I pressed my up key on my keyboard Nov 28 05:30:48 what do you mean by cached Nov 28 05:31:04 wilornel: you can do that, but a better way would be to have to catch blocks for each exception Nov 28 05:31:34 So try{}catch(IOException e){}catch(someType e){}? Thanks! :) Nov 28 05:31:39 yeah Nov 28 05:31:59 mainly so you don;'t ignore any runtime exceptions Nov 28 05:32:11 desmin88: Like if the variable is still being stored in main memory and can be called normally without being like restarted or anything Nov 28 05:32:35 So by "calling a variable" what do you mean Nov 28 05:32:42 desmin88: My bad now that I think of it its kinda of a fail question. Nov 28 05:32:49 it is Nov 28 05:32:51 desmin88: What I meant was so I have to activities in a fragment Nov 28 05:33:09 : Nov 28 05:33:14 activities cant be in fragments Nov 28 05:33:15 its vice versa Nov 28 05:33:48 sorry I have my vocal all messed up lol Nov 28 05:33:49 :D Nov 28 05:33:53 f2prateek: So there should also be a catch(RunTimeException e) ? Nov 28 05:34:23 desmin88: and like I wanted to get the variables in the class of the hidden activity when the other fragment is running. I was wondering if strong the variable in a local variable in that fragment would be more efficient than fetching the variable over and over again from the other fragment that is not visible Nov 28 05:34:50 willornel: no you should let that exception crash the app Nov 28 05:34:58 i still dont get what your saying Nov 28 05:35:28 e.g. in your case an exception could be due to not having the internet permission in the manifest Nov 28 05:35:38 f2prateek: Oh alright alright. So a runtime exception is of type Exception. If I do catch(Exception e) I'm catching the runtime exception, so it doesn't let the app crash, which is a bad thing Nov 28 05:37:21 yup Nov 28 05:37:56 f2prateek: Why isn't eclipse telling me anything about UnknownHostException handling if I do not include catch(UnknownHostException e) ? Nov 28 05:38:23 it extends form IOException Nov 28 05:38:25 desmin88: So do you know how there can be two fragments in an activity. Would it be more efficient to set a local variable for the fragment equal to the variable in the other activity (i.e. com.whatever.class.variablename) or just repeatedly use com.whatever.class.variablename. That "variable name" is from another fragment that is hidden because the current one is selected. I don't know if you still don't get it its alrigh Nov 28 05:38:31 so you're probably catching that already Nov 28 05:39:01 f2prateek: no it doesn't Nov 28 05:39:10 f2prateek: it does! Nov 28 05:39:10 sorry Nov 28 05:40:35 AndreYonadam: do what you thinks best Nov 28 05:41:55 desmin88: will do. thanks Nov 28 05:43:53 AndreYonadam: it doesnt matter either way i think Nov 28 05:44:31 desmin88: yeah i think they are both the same too because I mean they are both local variables Nov 28 05:44:51 I meant like nothing is really changing Nov 28 07:12:27 Any suggestions to make this look a bit easier? http://i.imgur.com/JaG7QyR.png Nov 28 07:12:34 uhh, better* Nov 28 07:13:27 Got it finally to scale height keeping aspectratio Nov 28 07:22:35 remote cross near back Nov 28 07:23:22 ? Nov 28 07:23:36 where is indent Nov 28 07:24:19 what do you mean remote cross Nov 28 07:24:39 oops Nov 28 07:24:47 s/remote/remove/ Nov 28 07:25:53 uhh Nov 28 07:25:55 wat Nov 28 07:28:00 you have confused here Nov 28 07:28:21 squ: in his dreams, the chicken flies south for the winter Nov 28 07:28:30 pls Nov 28 07:29:59 desmin88: on Tuesdays, large buildings bluish prettily Nov 28 07:30:03 er, blush Nov 28 07:30:16 pls no. Nov 28 07:30:19 dont do this to me Nov 28 07:32:11 desmin88: who is this year's lonely uncle? Nov 28 07:32:45 :9 Nov 28 07:35:27 oops, I killed him Nov 28 07:39:49 <_genuser_> my RemoveViewsFactory is returning a view in getViewAt(int), however the widget just keeps saying "Loading....". There are no exceptions thrown or logged in LogCat. Nov 28 07:39:55 <_genuser_> anybody got any ideas on how to debug? Nov 28 07:42:13 If I have a WebView with a JSInterface attached to it Nov 28 07:42:27 and that JSInterface has the webview as a private property... is that a memory leak? Nov 28 07:42:39 i dont know much about java garbage collection Nov 28 07:43:38 How can I find out what are the supported language for Google Play store? https://play.google.com/store/apps/id=com.mycompany.myapp&hl=[two letter language code] I want to find out the *all* the two letter language codes Google Play supports Nov 28 07:43:42 <_genuser_> I don't know about the specifics of those controls, but typical java garbage control runs periodically and frees up memory from object that have zero references in runtime. Nov 28 07:44:14 <_genuser_> to a references b, but nothing references a, then a should be GC'd and b also. Nov 28 07:44:43 <_genuser_> the order of a and b being GC'd varies from lang to lang or something. Nov 28 07:45:16 so having retain cycles like that -would- create a leak? Nov 28 07:46:02 <_genuser_> otiose: if nothing is referencing JSInterface at garbage collection time, then it will be freed up. Nov 28 07:46:17 _genuser_: the webview would be referencing the JSInterface Nov 28 07:46:33 <_genuser_> and anything it was referencing would have then zero references. and that should also be GC'd. hopefully at the same run, but if not, then on the next GC run. Nov 28 07:46:36 webView.addJavascriptInterface(new JSInterface(webView)); kinda thing Nov 28 07:46:47 (assuming the constructor just sets a private variable for the webview) Nov 28 07:47:04 <_genuser_> lol, interfaces is the single reason I dislike java so much. Nov 28 07:47:38 well, this isnt an -interface- per se Nov 28 07:47:45 <_genuser_> I have worked mostly with .NET runtime, and it's quirky. if cleans up references object the object. So in destructors, you can't clean up properly. Nov 28 07:47:52 <_genuser_> and that's how someone chose to design it. Nov 28 07:47:54 its a javascript interface... which is an object tha tyou can call things on from JS in a webview Nov 28 07:48:49 <_genuser_> otiose: so webView is adding interface which takes the same webView as a paramter, right? Nov 28 07:49:02 yep Nov 28 07:49:23 or at least thats how i would like to set it up, but i think it might be super leaky Nov 28 07:49:37 <_genuser_> that's a circular reference. But if the main webView is gone, I'd assume you'd be left with a JSinterface that nothing in active code is referencing. Nov 28 07:50:14 but if the JSInterface is referencing the webView, how can it be gone? Nov 28 07:50:21 i dont know how java handles retain cycles Nov 28 07:50:38 (coming from an ios background if that means anything) Nov 28 07:50:41 <_genuser_> in general, this is where I'd create 100-1000 of object in question and dump free mem before and after creation to see how it goes. Nov 28 07:50:53 haha Nov 28 07:50:56 yeah that would work Nov 28 07:51:21 <_genuser_> I understand it this way: webView is not being referenced by your code anymore. but JSinterface is referencing it. but now it's a contained loop that your code isn't referencing. Nov 28 07:52:09 <_genuser_> lot of devs don't specify this kind of information freely and if they do, lot of us devs don't bother reading 10,000 pages to get one bit of nugget. Nov 28 07:52:12 <_genuser_> vicious cycle. Nov 28 07:52:31 so basically, your advice is try it out and see hwat actually happes Nov 28 07:53:28 <_genuser_> yeah, I'm one of those devs who doesn't get certified in new technologies. I just code it up and see how it pans out. sometimes keeps me out of the loop on cool aspects of frameworks. Nov 28 07:54:01 i dont get certified, i generally read docs Nov 28 07:54:05 which are nice in ios :P Nov 28 07:54:39 <_genuser_> honestly, I finally now read docs. google docs are much nicer than most others. and it's helped me understand android stuff better. Nov 28 07:55:06 <_genuser_> stuff like inner working of .NET, I just brute force my way thru it. Nov 28 07:55:06 is there android certification? Nov 28 07:55:18 just wondering heh Nov 28 07:55:30 <_genuser_> not unless someone quickly becomes a certifying authority. Nov 28 07:55:47 <_genuser_> it would most ideally be google. but I hear they're moving away from royalty mindset lately. Nov 28 07:55:56 <_genuser_> hence not hiring only PhD's anymore. Nov 28 07:56:31 Can I put a list of Serializable object to Bundle? Nov 28 08:02:15 yes maven__ but not serializable .. parcable Nov 28 08:02:50 state.putParcelable Nov 28 08:02:53 lemonxah, I just do not want to implement the Parcable :( since extra codes required. Nov 28 08:03:05 maven__, its not a lot of code though Nov 28 08:03:10 its pretty simple and fast Nov 28 08:03:42 Ok, I will try it.:) Nov 28 08:05:01 did someone ever used rest for push notifications (in a background service)? Nov 28 08:10:05 urgh Nov 28 08:10:13 JSONArrays and JSONObjects are so annoying Nov 28 08:10:17 Nah Nov 28 08:10:19 try/catches everywhere... Nov 28 08:10:23 Use Gson :) Nov 28 08:11:07 misterli: Not sure what you mean; I use GCM for receiving push messages on the device. You can't push to device with REST AFAIK. Nov 28 08:11:57 kjeldahl. There must be another way of using push without gcm, c2dm, gxmpp. I want to avoid using external services and only my own server. Tried now: Http Push, Mqtt, Xmpp but all of them are not working perfectly Nov 28 08:12:31 yeah it looks nice but i dont know if i can use it Nov 28 08:13:04 misterli: Your own "server" on the device?? And you need to remember that the "stability" of connections on mobile probably need to be handled (losing connections which you will not know until you try a heartbeat or similar). Nov 28 08:13:39 No. Own server to handle the Pushs Nov 28 08:14:07 Why isn't xmpp not working for you? Nov 28 08:14:13 And yes. I know because of the heartbeat problem on xmpp (idle connections) and mqtt. This is what fucks me up heavy. MQTT works perfectly but after a while .. Nov 28 08:14:23 misterli: And you want to push to the device IP? HTTP REST is not a "push" service, if you want the device on the receiving end, you need a "web server". Nov 28 08:14:29 Because its overloaded. I only need pushs. No transfer, two-way-push, whatever Nov 28 08:15:01 And the only one "good" and stable xmpp client is asmack which is toooo heavy Nov 28 08:15:08 misterli: Best you can do with HTTP/REST on the device I believe is what is known as "long polling", which is a kind of push I guess. Nov 28 08:15:15 Yes, right Nov 28 08:15:36 I dont want to code my own long polling server/client .. since this would take another 1-2 weeks of coding Nov 28 08:15:52 Mosqutto/Mqtt seems to be fine but in some cases it just wont reconnect anymore Nov 28 08:15:58 Well, can't help you with that, but I can report that GCM works great. I expected latency upwards to 15 minutes, but at most it's 30 seconds, usually a lot less. Nov 28 08:16:11 Yes. I experienced latency up to 30 min which was very bad Nov 28 08:16:22 And it runs only on 2.2+ AND not in some countrys like china, hebrew, .. Nov 28 08:16:29 You polling is also going to cost battery, unless you are able to sync it with the "regular" connection heartbeats of the device. Nov 28 08:17:06 Yes this is why im looking for a good solution beside of gcm. :s Nov 28 08:17:24 Good luck! I'm higher up in the "API chain" ;-) Nov 28 08:17:41 haha Nov 28 08:20:45 If you have some gold to spare and you decide to go the xmpp route, I can recommend the library from IPWorks Nov 28 08:20:59 No gold :P Nov 28 08:21:04 too bad :) Nov 28 08:21:11 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/redis-db/79w_LlLJAHw too many people tried to replace the push already... Nov 28 08:21:35 <_genuser_> beautiful! the docs reference stackwidgetinfo.xml and associated project. But it doesn't exist in samples. Nov 28 08:33:19 is there an easy way to detect if the app is running on a tablet or a phone Nov 28 08:35:28 cause depending on which it is i want to use different cursor adapters Nov 28 08:36:03 why do you want to do that? Nov 28 08:36:08 Check if Phone-app is installed Nov 28 08:36:15 Check Display Size/resolution Nov 28 08:36:28 can't you install phone-app on tablets too? Nov 28 08:36:52 Yes and no. It does work but this is not common Nov 28 08:40:08 that seems a bit sloppy :/ Nov 28 08:48:37 lemonxah, the way I do it is I use different layouts for the different devices Nov 28 08:48:46 yeah i do that too Nov 28 08:49:05 you can use findviewbyid to check if elements are present or not Nov 28 08:49:12 but the layouts dont use cursor adapters Nov 28 08:49:27 but i am doing something else now on my activity also with layouts Nov 28 08:49:59 didn't want to duplicate code for 2 adapters Nov 28 08:50:05 but will fix that later Nov 28 08:57:47 if i'm looping through a JSONArray and adding things from inside to an external array, and then midway through, i get an exception (that's caught)... Nov 28 08:57:54 everything I added before the exception is still OK rihgt? Nov 28 08:58:04 its not like everything in the try is discarded Nov 28 09:02:40 yippee, the answer is yes Nov 28 09:07:15 anyone here use android studio on mac? Nov 28 09:07:23 how can I get ctrl+d to delete characters to work Nov 28 09:07:30 and ctrl+k to not only cut the line, but copy it? Nov 28 09:07:39 define your own hotkeys Nov 28 09:07:42 and then ctrl+y to yank it back Nov 28 09:07:43 :( Nov 28 09:11:04 guys question how do you pop the backstack but leave 1 item Nov 28 09:11:11 well there was an emacs preset Nov 28 09:11:12 my desired behaviour is as follows Nov 28 09:11:23 that i can fix later if i want (undo is ctrl+/ which is kind of annoying) Nov 28 09:11:25 i start the activity then add the home fragment Nov 28 09:11:50 then from there i keep replacing the fragments where the home fragment is but all of those i use .addtobackstack Nov 28 09:11:58 lemonxah: I definitely have code for that somewhere, I know it's possible. It's something like you can check the count ont he stack, and pop 1 at a time until 1 is left Nov 28 09:12:12 then if i tap on a menu item in my drawer layout Nov 28 09:12:35 i want to pop all the way back to the original homefragment Nov 28 09:12:51 and then add the new fragment ontop of that one with another .replace and .addtobackstack Nov 28 09:13:00 so that pressing back will go back to the home fragment Nov 28 09:13:10 does that baviour make sense? Nov 28 09:15:32 well... that explains why my app would try to launch when i wanted to delete a character... Nov 28 09:19:06 D: why does android.webkit.BrowserFrameBrowserFrame have a stringByEvaluatingJavaScriptFromString method but we're not allowed to use it ;_; Nov 28 09:19:56 it sounds like some form of eval(), and "eval() is evil" Nov 28 09:23:23 fm.popBackStack(null, FragmentManager.POP_BACK_STACK_INCLUSIVE); Nov 28 09:23:30 if i dont want to pop backstack inclusive Nov 28 09:23:52 there is no FragmentManager.POP_BACK_STACK_NONINCLUSIVE Nov 28 09:23:56 how would i do that? Nov 28 09:37:10 how do you pull images off your dev device Nov 28 09:38:30 You mean like screenshots? Nov 28 09:41:21 yeah i have some images in my gallery... i tried removing them the same way i put them on... Nov 28 09:41:23 but didnt work Nov 28 09:41:39 ddms->file explorer->push file onto device Nov 28 09:41:41 works to put them on Nov 28 09:41:56 but when i do ddms->file explorer->pull a file from device Nov 28 09:41:58 it doesnt take them offf Nov 28 09:43:06 wait Nov 28 09:43:09 think i got it Nov 28 09:58:20 hello Nov 28 09:58:26 how do i do a GET request in android Nov 28 09:58:41 the most efficient way Nov 28 09:59:46 https://developer.android.com/reference/android/net/http/AndroidHttpClient.html Nov 28 09:59:53 I'd say this is a good starting point Nov 28 10:00:17 thanks i will see how i can use it to pull json Nov 28 10:03:26 Has anybody looked in detail at the new SMS stuff in 4.4/KitKat? I've got an app that is still able to send SMS'es without any trouble, Is the "new" thing with default app only that it is sent "through" the default app, and that I would typically be unable to remove stuff from inboxes etc? Nov 28 10:06:07 wow making a http request in android is a doozy Nov 28 10:06:28 is there a more straightforward way Nov 28 10:06:43 what do you mean? Nov 28 10:07:27 is there an easier api as simple as 'response = get(url);" Nov 28 10:08:27 beaky: From the GUI thread? Not advisable. Nov 28 10:08:30 Hello! When building the Android kernel, I need to recreate the boot image. So I copy the zImage back into device/.../kernel and... what do I do? Tried make and make bootimage, but all say nothing is to be done. Any way to force rebuild of boot.img without having to rebuild the entire system? Nov 28 10:08:50 atm first i have to define an adhoc class specailized from async tasks, then i have to constrct an httpclient object from an http request response, then i have to do lots of manual error checking Nov 28 10:09:16 beaky: http://www.androidsnippets.com/executing-a-http-get-request-with-httpclient Nov 28 10:09:39 wow that is quite straightforwad Nov 28 10:09:50 but isnt that going to block gui thread? Nov 28 10:09:51 and error-prone Nov 28 10:09:55 yes it is Nov 28 10:18:50 Sometimes I wonder why it's 4 in the morning and I can't stop programming to sleep Nov 28 10:18:51 ... Nov 28 10:21:05 sleep is for beginners Nov 28 10:29:02 I sleep and I thought that it is for weakling macTAR :-( Nov 28 10:42:34 i sleep so much Nov 28 10:42:35 i love it Nov 28 10:42:41 but i had a dream that i woke up one day, and i was old Nov 28 10:42:50 i felt young, but my body was old... Nov 28 10:47:07 I feel old but my body is young Nov 28 10:47:07 lol Nov 28 10:49:33 i feel oung and my body is young Nov 28 10:57:14 ...but not as young as i used to be Nov 28 10:59:20 Like, just started writing the user management portion of my web backend Nov 28 10:59:25 and now it's 5 AM Nov 28 10:59:26 lol Nov 28 10:59:44 why did I spend hours setting up a mirror dev env on my second laptop instead of just getting my primary laptop out... Nov 28 11:15:14 Hi, all! How can I calibrate my touch screen? Nov 28 11:23:17 I'm working on an Android+iOS library to communicate with a backend server, using https and xml. Should I rather make two separate libs in ObjC and Java, or should I use C++ for a common code base? Nov 28 11:23:50 two seperate Nov 28 11:23:52 Use the native environments in each. Nov 28 11:24:11 Hi guys, is it possible to use AccountManager just to save/retreive the user/password? At the moment I should like to handle myself the login process Nov 28 11:24:14 the NDK should only be used if your app requires it, such as for GPU rendering Nov 28 11:24:25 (being java for android and objc for ios) Nov 28 11:24:38 Yeah, "native" was a bit confusing, meant java though. Nov 28 11:24:50 I see how C++ works out for games, but for server communication prabably not so good Nov 28 11:24:55 is android how to program a good book Nov 28 11:24:58 or for this purpose it would be better to store credentials somewhere else? Nov 28 11:25:02 Ge0rG: since objc allows C, and in android you can do C too with extra effor. Why not take that extra effort? :) Nov 28 11:25:26 squ: because https+xml sucks in C Nov 28 11:25:29 squ rtfm http://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/ndk/index.html Nov 28 11:25:35 " In general, you should only use the NDK if it is essential to your app—never because you simply prefer to program in C/C++." Nov 28 11:25:42 Ge0rG: xml is fine Nov 28 11:26:13 Ge0rG: https://github.com/squm/xml Nov 28 11:26:29 They all have a primary development environment where you get a lot of code and framework things for free. Go low-level only when it's absolutely require (typically for speed). Nov 28 11:27:00 For network stuff, low level code will not help you speedwise, only complicate your life. Nov 28 11:27:45 It will probably take more time implementing a common code base for both than to implement two 'native' ones Nov 28 11:28:00 Also take maintenance into account Nov 28 11:28:15 I want when i click outside a EditText the kyboard goes down Nov 28 11:28:17 how? Nov 28 11:29:15 Ge0rG: you can even ask anything libxml author on irc Nov 28 11:51:57 hello i am making a app in which i have to save a json file with email and password in sdcard encrypted , how to save the file with json object and retrive the file ? Nov 28 12:17:45 Anyone who knows where I can change the android boot logo in the sources? Nov 28 12:42:17 I'm trying to use the NotificationListenerService but it doesn't work in my (complex) app. But in a simple standalone app I made for testing, it works Nov 28 12:43:08 when I enable the permission in settings, all apps in the list react: android unbinds from the service and binds again if the app has permission Nov 28 12:43:26 I see a message from my test app and another third party app indicating so Nov 28 12:44:30 but not my app! it won't bind no matter what. I've set the target sdk correctly and added the service to the manifest and so on, just like i did in the test app. I've even copied and pasted it from the test app just to be sure it was exactly the same. Nov 28 12:45:12 any idea what could be going on? Nov 28 12:50:19 hello Nov 28 12:50:38 how do i make a good gui Nov 28 12:50:43 i am horrible at design Nov 28 12:51:07 beaky: this is a tough one Nov 28 12:51:09 a) you get better, or b) you get someone else to do it Nov 28 12:51:14 let me know if you find the answer Nov 28 12:51:36 I am pretty much looking for an answer other than what Leeds is saying Nov 28 12:51:53 or c) you work with the design guidelines and at least produce something which isn't downright ugly Nov 28 12:52:49 i love guidelines Nov 28 12:53:05 so google has some ui and ux guildeines? Nov 28 13:01:33 How to disable an edittextbox when an activity loads? Nov 28 13:01:35 (java) Nov 28 13:16:51 beaky, search for android ui patterns. it returns some good results. i always go to the image results first Nov 28 13:18:06 beaky> so google has some ui and ux guildeines? Nov 28 13:18:16 hah, seems like he almost visited dev.android.com before coming here. Nov 28 13:20:26 Hi Nov 28 13:20:53 tell me please, is it possible to program against low-level driver api in closed (not jailbroken) android? Nov 28 13:21:13 you wish Nov 28 13:22:11 hm? Nov 28 13:22:13 the lowest levels are very limited OpenMAX AL and OpenSL ES Nov 28 13:22:36 ah Nov 28 13:22:54 I would like to disable video card signal Nov 28 13:22:57 nvidia provides their own apis for tegra chips Nov 28 13:23:02 no can do Nov 28 13:23:18 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9561320/android-how-to-turn-screen-on-and-off-programmatically Nov 28 13:23:52 I'm trying understand what is difference between disabling vga card signal vs turning screen like that Nov 28 13:24:29 any help highly appreciated Nov 28 13:24:36 disabling video card signal is like putting a bit into VBIOS that DIE NOW Nov 28 13:24:47 and the link you pasted is like "hey, go blank yo" Nov 28 13:25:26 so it will just put all pixels into black, not turn off the display, right? Nov 28 13:25:52 or if you consider it a low level access that you tell in java that "I am ok with you blanking the screen", then were taking about totally different things. Nov 28 13:26:00 I mean display conected via cable, not tablet/phone screen Nov 28 13:26:35 what I'm trying to do is turning off cable connected display Nov 28 13:26:55 .... Nov 28 13:27:00 so I thought about eliminating vga card signal Nov 28 13:27:08 but maybe there is other way? Nov 28 13:27:38 "eliminating vga card signal" on "(not jailbroken) android" is not possible. Nov 28 13:28:22 ok, that's solid information already :) but maybe there are other ways? Nov 28 13:29:33 android wants you to do it from system's properties. Nov 28 13:29:56 and like in windows or macs, you usually don't setup the displays directly from application. Nov 28 13:30:06 you do it from OS properties Nov 28 13:32:24 hokkaido: do you know maybe name of that property to let me find this in api doc? :) Nov 28 13:32:34