**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 29 02:59:58 2013 Nov 29 03:00:30 looks good Nov 29 03:01:27 where can i get a hat like that ? Nov 29 03:01:43 dude fuck if i know but its dope. Nov 29 03:18:33 Well that sucks. I have to make a selector that sets the drawable to two different card layerlists depending on click state Nov 29 03:38:30 If I want a listener for list item subviews like a button, where can these be assigned? In examples I've seen theyre doing it in an adapter Nov 29 04:00:33 l2tp vpn on kitkat seems flaky as hell Nov 29 04:08:40 anyone using the new NotificationListenerService? Nov 29 04:16:37 I can't figure out how to control when the service gets started Nov 29 04:16:55 Hi, can someone clarify for me about Google Play API v3? Do I have to change anything on my side? or am I already using this API v3? do I have to change the .aidl file or something? a bit confused here.. would appreciate if anyone could clarify for me.. thanks Nov 29 04:22:19 guh Nov 29 04:22:23 bugs bugs everywhere Nov 29 04:22:28 restart phone to clear out service bugs Nov 29 04:22:38 restart eclipse to refresh logcat Nov 29 04:22:39 what's next Nov 29 04:25:38 I want to play around with the GPS sensor Nov 29 04:25:48 which APIs/classes should I read about/ Nov 29 04:28:11 http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/location/index.html Nov 29 04:30:49 i saw that page Nov 29 04:31:07 http://developer.android.com/google/play-services/location.html Nov 29 04:31:13 perhaps thats what I want? Nov 29 04:31:30 if you want to get locked into play services, yeah Nov 29 04:31:43 which is what google wants :) Nov 29 04:34:21 heh, kind of a nice contrast, desmin88 working on a super-christian like app, and then saying "dude fuck if i know but its dope." in regards to christian headwear Nov 29 04:34:50 otiose: lol Nov 29 04:50:17 well if not the play services api, then I want to use the geomagnetic field sensor? Nov 29 05:08:53 ViewGroup.LayoutParams(width, height) Nov 29 05:08:57 are width and height in px or dp? Nov 29 05:09:03 px, kind of Nov 29 05:09:30 do elaborate :) Nov 29 05:09:51 could be MATCH_PARENT or WRAP_CONTENT constants Nov 29 05:10:01 sure Nov 29 05:10:03 and if not, px? Nov 29 05:10:10 kind of Nov 29 05:10:17 what if I actually wanted them to be dp Nov 29 05:10:23 actually maybe I can just do match parent Nov 29 05:10:26 then do the conversion yourself Nov 29 05:10:27 you can convert dp Nov 29 05:10:32 and read the docs next time Nov 29 05:11:18 durka42: what you want is to check android.os.Build.Model and do a big switch on there that contains this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_displays_by_pixel_density Nov 29 05:11:36 haha Nov 29 05:12:51 uhhh Nov 29 05:12:55 that seems like the wrong approach Nov 29 05:13:19 no it's correct Nov 29 05:13:22 it would work Nov 29 05:13:33 it would... Nov 29 05:14:03 i guess you could make a custom APK for every device Nov 29 05:14:06 somebody should make that into a library :P Nov 29 05:15:00 nah, just pack it as a sqlite database and require consumers open it, run a query, and get the result via a Cursor Nov 29 05:15:21 no need to mess about with libraries Nov 29 05:15:51 and license it as GPL Nov 29 05:16:41 boom. ship it Nov 29 05:16:49 sometimes i am too smart Nov 29 05:18:06 … I set match_parent Nov 29 05:28:35 how well do android dev tools run on a Mac? Nov 29 05:28:50 (something like Eclipse, or just the ADT itself) Nov 29 05:28:51 <_genuser_> geez no more custom libraries. Nov 29 05:29:18 <_genuser_> jqueries and whatnots of he world are turning it into a resume skill just to do something using someone else's code Nov 29 05:30:50 sanitypassing: they run just fine Nov 29 05:32:10 okay Nov 29 05:33:02 sanitypassing: but for the emulator, definitely go for genymotion Nov 29 05:33:04 its amazing Nov 29 05:33:28 well I haven't started looking into software just yet. Nov 29 05:33:33 ohok Nov 29 05:33:50 I just need to know if there are any major problems with the dev tools before I buy a macbook Nov 29 05:34:00 well, genymotion will work on windows/mac/linux so Nov 29 05:34:05 alright Nov 29 05:34:22 the emulator being horrible is a dev-tool problem, not an os problem Nov 29 05:34:44 osx has other problems but dev tools work just fine on it Nov 29 05:35:00 gkatsev: what problems? ive been fine Nov 29 05:35:37 just being osx Nov 29 05:35:44 well that's specific Nov 29 05:35:55 one major pain I've seen is that it had horrible multimonitor support. Nov 29 05:36:01 though, I haven't used mavericks yet. Nov 29 05:36:03 as opposed to? Nov 29 05:36:07 ah thats true Nov 29 05:36:10 linux or windows Nov 29 05:36:29 well windows has the problem of...being windows Nov 29 05:36:41 yes, that it does :D Nov 29 05:36:43 granted, i havent used it since vista, but w/o common unix utilities, im lost lol Nov 29 05:36:52 personally, I run linux with windows for gaming Nov 29 05:36:53 cygwin feels hacky... Nov 29 05:37:07 that's because it is Nov 29 05:37:18 it's a huge hack Nov 29 05:37:22 hi Nov 29 05:37:33 it does certain things without OS support, which requires insane hacks that make baby cthulhu cry Nov 29 05:37:34 i use mac becuase ive been using it since i was like 5; and linux because its nice Nov 29 05:38:11 I use mac too. and I'm having because it cannot find my android device connecting via USB Nov 29 05:38:21 oh thats strange Nov 29 05:38:28 i found that easier on mac than linux Nov 29 05:38:51 I'm not sure if it's because my Galaxy Nexus phone is running 4.2.1 Nov 29 05:38:57 tholapz: try killing the adb server and starting it again? Nov 29 05:39:05 no, im running 4.3 and its ok Nov 29 05:39:12 but I tried upload the .apk file and install directly on the phone and the app works Nov 29 05:39:14 * p_l meanwhile looks at the task of writing C code for mainframe, all for a chance of getting a Galaxy Tab ;P Nov 29 05:44:52 ok, thank you for the instruction earlier. I ran 'adb kill-server' and then 'adb install myapp.apk' again still not work Nov 29 05:44:55 * daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 * * daemon started successfully * error: device not found - waiting for device - Nov 29 05:45:00 this is what was shown Nov 29 05:46:57 is it possible to connect a device as a media device and USB debugging at the same time? Nov 29 05:49:21 hi, all, did someone have the TelephonyManager.getNeighboringCellInfo friendly device list? Nov 29 06:07:34 seriously, what the fuck genymotion. Nov 29 06:07:48 how hard is it to see that virtualbox has been installed. Nov 29 06:15:36 desmin88: did you intall vbox on its own, or with the bundled package? Nov 29 06:15:51 bundled package. Nov 29 06:16:20 hmm Nov 29 06:16:31 well, just fixed it Nov 29 06:16:33 oh Nov 29 06:16:36 nice Nov 29 06:16:43 found its registry entries Nov 29 06:17:00 it was looking for virtualbox in the wrong path, which is dumb as hell considering its installer installed it for me Nov 29 06:17:14 :D Nov 29 06:17:25 on mac it asks you for the path Nov 29 06:17:31 now i can enjoy all this goodness Nov 29 06:17:37 yeah its pretty awesome Nov 29 06:18:24 I was going to test my app on this old samsung moment i had so i didnt have to use an emulator, but apparently samsung drivers dont work on 8.1 Nov 29 06:21:32 i'm still having problems with Android Studio's logcat disconnecting from Genymotion vm; anyone know of a workaround? everything else seems to work; build pushes APK to vm just fine, i can browse processes - just logcat stops Nov 29 06:24:32 hi! I am looking for a mirror of the SDK files, I am on archlinux and use `sudo android` to download SDK stuff Nov 29 06:24:42 is there a mirror in China Nov 29 06:26:25 4 emulators running now, so glad i have 16gb atm Nov 29 06:55:10 YAY! http://gyazo.com/d62142abb4f5e62fd3383f850ac453d7 Nov 29 06:57:43 Definitely feels good to see your app be consistent from api 7 - to 19 and work on tablets :D Nov 29 07:13:42 i click that link and get redirected elsewhere without any of your screencaps Nov 29 07:13:44 just FYi Nov 29 07:14:37 not sure about all that space between the listview items on the left Nov 29 07:17:11 ak5: Works for me, must be on your end? Nov 29 07:17:20 bankai_: I can adjust space between items easily Nov 29 07:19:06 bankai_: knocked it from 25 - 18dp Nov 29 07:21:05 Ouch, look at this overdraw.. http://gyazo.com/b7227b1610243356d4946bd4c6a09a78 Nov 29 07:34:30 Is it possible to get a Drawble's size with the "dp" unit? Nov 29 07:57:03 Hey guys, to set onclick listeners for sub views in a list item, where should this be done? Nov 29 08:00:06 anyone know if there is a Toast like notification that kan have an action Nov 29 08:00:27 like the swipe on hangouts gets rid of the chat and then asks you to undo in a toast like manner Nov 29 08:02:13 Hi, are there any documentations on how to switch from Google Play Billing v2 to v3? or there's actually no migration need on the part of the app-side? Nov 29 08:08:33 I'm trying to reserve a game name I'm working on in the amazon store but when I tested by creating another app with the same name amazon allowed this? Nov 29 08:19:00 still the same question like every day.. what is the best push method (beside of gcm) to run in a background-service? it tried http(rest), xmpp, mqtt but they are all not very good. (Queueing for nMinutes, reconnceting, _Heartbeath, etc.). Now i could see Deacon but it seems not work work in a background service and require another webserver (Methor). Im already running nginx and i dont Nov 29 08:19:00 want to spawn another webserver on a different port. So any idea? Nov 29 08:20:32 is amazon ec2 worth the bang for app backend Nov 29 08:20:42 or there are cheap alternatives Nov 29 08:51:15 do i want to use Google Play Location Services in my app? Nov 29 08:51:46 how could I use the GPS otherwise? Nov 29 08:52:27 you can use location provider directly. Nov 29 08:52:33 but then you need to handle some things yourself Nov 29 08:53:17 I've read trhough some docs but I'm still pretty lost Nov 29 08:53:43 are there any downsides to used the Location Services API? Nov 29 08:54:07 do I have to pay google if I make lots of requests? Nov 29 08:54:15 nope Nov 29 08:54:23 downside is that user needs to have Google Play services installed Nov 29 08:54:43 that is, it won't work on Amazon devices or for people using Cyanogen without Google account Nov 29 08:55:01 hm, then maybe I'll just use googles api Nov 29 08:55:10 looks way simpler than the alternative Nov 29 08:55:20 RustyShackleford, using internal location provider is pretty straightforward tho: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/location/LocationManager.html#requestLocationUpdates(long, float, android.location.Criteria, android.app.PendingIntent) Nov 29 08:55:36 just remember to unsubscribe from location updates in onPause or you'll kill peoples battery Nov 29 08:56:38 using Location Services is a lot easier than using the normal providers (there's a few snags) but indeed you require Play sevice to be installed. Unfortunately, there seem to be some weird issues with the Fused Location Provider (which would be the main reason to use this API) and there's no source to figure them out Nov 29 08:56:59 okay so this app I'm thinking of deals with driving and avoiding red light cameras and speed cameras Nov 29 08:57:10 unless your solution is hacky in nature I wouldn't worry about custom ROM users. Amazon maybe... Nov 29 08:57:12 ideally the user wouldn't have to start it every time they get in the car Nov 29 08:58:02 so it would detect when the user is driving, and then monitor their location more closely Nov 29 08:58:09 is that feasible? Nov 29 08:58:36 Possible - yes. But keep battery drain in mind. Nov 29 08:58:54 https://developer.android.com/reference/com/google/android/gms/location/ActivityRecognitionClient.html Nov 29 08:58:59 RustyShackleford, Nov 29 08:59:05 If you use activity detection (from Goole Play Service) or write your own (use sensors, not location for this) ... Nov 29 09:03:06 so I'm still confused. Should I use google's location api? yay or nay? Nov 29 09:04:29 I'm not concerned about custom roms or android devices Nov 29 09:08:26 Hi, I would like to port a linux C-programmed utility which uses alsa/asoundlib.h to access the mic. I'd like a suggestion since I am quite new to the Android's Universe: is NDK a possible way? I've read worrying stuff about ALSA Nov 29 09:08:32 RustyShackleford: with the new kitkat location stuff you might be able to make it really battery-efficient Nov 29 09:09:28 f843d0: I'm processing audio recordings from the mic in a native library in one of my apps, and I'm using JNI to pass byte arrays Nov 29 09:10:52 f843d0, no, you can't just use alsa to grab microphone recordings from NDK Nov 29 09:11:05 but yes, you can use NDK C libraries to process recorded sound buffers Nov 29 09:11:46 Ge0rG, Mavrik: thanks for your answers; so, should I use OpenSL ES instead of ALSA? Nov 29 09:12:16 no idea on that Nov 29 09:13:22 Besides, processing the recorded sound buffers isn't so C-efficient committed, I mean, in your opinion, should I struggle down with NDK or I'd do better in reimplementing the whole thing with ordinary Android APIs? Nov 29 09:13:24 f843d0, it seems OpenSL is capable of recording audio on Android... I'm not sure since which platform API it's supported Nov 29 09:13:50 implementing stuff in Java with Android API's is always easier and more pain-free than playing with NDK Nov 29 09:14:11 depends on what you do. Nov 29 09:14:22 Mavrik: I see, many thanks for the hints Nov 29 09:14:26 depends on your use-case though, if you have a performance requirement you might not have a choice :) Nov 29 09:14:38 aiming for 60 fps game in java might become a burden Nov 29 09:14:53 hokkaido, we're talking about recording audio. Nov 29 09:15:09 Mavrik: that's what I meant with "processing the recorded sound buffers isn't so C-efficient committed" :) Nov 29 09:15:36 has anyone used Tim Roes's Enhanced Listview? Nov 29 09:15:40 java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: de.timroes.android.listview.EnhancedListView Nov 29 09:16:00 lemonxah, obviously for some reason the library isn't compiled into your apk :) Nov 29 09:16:08 i have no idea why though Nov 29 09:16:12 its a maven repo Nov 29 09:16:18 and it doesn't moan about it in the idea Nov 29 09:16:23 IDE ** Nov 29 09:16:28 hmm Nov 29 09:16:32 android studio **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 29 09:18:38 2013 Nov 29 09:18:39 cool ima test again Nov 29 09:18:49 if that doesn't, try to download the aar file and make a files dependency instead of maven Nov 29 09:19:12 * Ge0rG recently broke gradle builds from within AS, by working until the laptop battery went empty. Nov 29 09:19:13 is android studio ready yet? Nov 29 09:19:17 RustyShackleford: no Nov 29 09:19:18 i much rather try to get the maven working cause all my libs are in maven Nov 29 09:19:28 I tried maybe a few months ago but went back to eclipse Nov 29 09:19:42 why would you do that RustyShackleford ? Nov 29 09:19:44 oh and sometimes, it have problems correctly resolve traversive dependencies Nov 29 09:20:00 and it doesn't include the libs enhancedListView need Nov 29 09:20:29 and it helped in that cases to simply specify the libs in your dependencies. Unfortunatlly i was never able to reproduce any of these :( Nov 29 09:24:57 if you want an app to work on iOS and android, whats the best course of action? Nov 29 09:24:57 timroes, it builds fine Nov 29 09:25:10 even from cli Nov 29 09:25:16 but it doesn't have that class Nov 29 09:30:14 so i should rather use aar file dependency Nov 29 09:30:31 i am using 0.1.2 timroes is that the latest version? Nov 29 09:31:30 lemonxah: http://search.maven.org/#search%7Cgav%7C1%7Cg%3A%22de.timroes.android%22%20AND%20a%3A%22EnhancedListView%22 it seems alike :) Nov 29 09:32:09 ok cool i will use a file depency to test it Nov 29 09:32:21 i know there are several waiting pull requests, but unfortunately I had very less spare time in the last months, due to work. Hopefully end of december it should be done and i can finally commit some new versions Nov 29 09:36:10 i wish it just worked Nov 29 09:36:52 meh Nov 29 09:37:10 lemonxah: just another idea: do you use proguard? Nov 29 09:37:56 not yet Nov 29 09:38:08 think we should put that into the proguard? Nov 29 09:38:32 not if you use the 'default' file Nov 29 09:38:41 it should exclude all views from obfuscating Nov 29 09:38:48 so the names in the xml files can be found Nov 29 09:48:32 and it just started working Nov 29 09:48:44 even went back tot he original setup Nov 29 09:48:51 to the .. Nov 29 09:49:01 i have no idea why it didn't work before Nov 29 09:49:51 its cool that its working but a bit concerning Nov 29 10:11:17 guys, how to change ActionBar's bottom line color? I see this: https://developer.android.com/images/training/basics/actionbar-theme-custom@2x.png Nov 29 10:11:23 in dev.android.com Nov 29 10:11:48 It is default way or I need to draw it by myself? Nov 29 10:11:48 In this project, there is a lot of classes that inherits from LinearLayoutEx, when each of them is constructed, it is inflating a view in the constructor using itself as root, will not add to the view nesting a lot? Nov 29 10:33:34 When creating a new android project, is it generally recommended to always use fragments for everything? Even if supporting different UI's for large screens is not an immediate concern? Nov 29 10:34:22 I follow that rule generally Nov 29 10:34:29 I also end up using large displays a lot Nov 29 10:34:34 Nexus 10, nexus 7, etc. Nov 29 10:34:58 so Nov 29 10:35:08 triggers on sqlite dbs on android Nov 29 10:35:16 good idea? Nov 29 10:36:00 It seems like a good idea, not too much extra work is needed to use fragments after all Nov 29 10:36:13 Yeah, I think Fragments are incredibly easy to work with Nov 29 10:36:16 maybe it's justme Nov 29 10:46:27 guys, I've created new package, for example: root package: com.example.myapp; But then I've added com.example.myapp.Adapters; Nov 29 10:46:40 but AS says 'Can't resolve R' Nov 29 10:46:48 what I can do? I don't want to import R Nov 29 10:47:14 woozly: import R. or flatten your hierarchy Nov 29 10:48:48 and don't name the package with capital letter, this violates java naming guidelines Nov 29 10:49:43 imports are also fact of life, don't resist them. We usually let IDEs manage that shit for us and just collapse the whole import list out of view Nov 29 10:50:04 the first time you use R, you have to select if it's your R or android's R you want, and then you can just use it and never care about the issue again in that file Nov 29 10:51:10 If I addView a view that was previously added to something else, what is the expected behavior? Nov 29 10:51:44 armageddon Nov 29 10:51:48 Dammit. Nov 29 10:52:02 I can't do Tree-like structure of my project? Nov 29 10:52:18 but I see that import R is bad practice Nov 29 10:52:21 of course you can, but you're just being kinda retarded about it. Nov 29 10:52:30 what is the problem with import R? Nov 29 10:53:20 woozly importing R isn't a bad practice if you're referencing things from it Nov 29 10:54:15 Okay guys. import com.example.app.R; isn't wrong way? Nov 29 10:54:37 and: why I don't name the package with capital letter, if Android does? Nov 29 10:54:56 I mean: android.app.Activity; android.os.Bundle etc. Nov 29 10:56:51 and Can I do it without importing R, but with configuration Gradle? Nov 29 10:57:02 woozly: eh. You mean a class, not a package? Nov 29 10:57:17 alankila: Oh... my fail Nov 29 10:57:50 alankila: you right. Nov 29 10:57:57 every file, I believe, must declare its imports locally if it wishes to use unqualified references Nov 29 10:58:03 unqualified meaning not a full path to the class Nov 29 10:58:27 hi guys, i'm trying to customise the position, background and text colour on an action bar spinner. the android documentation at https://developer.android.com/training/basics/actionbar/styling.html only discusses how to change the background colour of the entire action bar. could someone point me in the right direction of how to do this ? Thanks! Nov 29 10:59:24 Okay. Where I can get Android examples, I mean great projects with open source code. I want to learn about this niceties. Nov 29 10:59:30 and thank you guys! Nov 29 11:02:41 And last question: Can I add 'drawable' directory? When I created new project in AS, i've got only postfixed 'drawable-' forlder, but no 'drawable'. Nov 29 11:02:42 woozly: I guess you could try searching for android stuff in github or acquire AOSP's packages Nov 29 11:03:42 whether any of what you find is great code is a matter of taste. I guess not all is bad out there. Nov 29 11:04:32 alankila: great thank you! Nov 29 11:07:18 woozly: yes, you can have a "drawable" directory Nov 29 11:07:25 any ideas? Nov 29 11:07:27 usually you put xml drawable/selectors in there Nov 29 11:07:41 CallumTaylor: tu Nov 29 11:08:12 and.. I need auto-update mechanism for my Corp app. What you can advice to me? Nov 29 11:08:33 because we will use a tons of android devices. Nov 29 11:11:51 Should I use built-in Google Corp capabilities for it? Nov 29 11:14:07 timroes, hi :) Nov 29 11:14:16 its working with maven no idea why Nov 29 11:14:48 i have a quick question though i am using a cursor adapter as my backing adapter for that list but its causing a flicker Nov 29 11:15:12 like the item will go away and the animation will finnish then its back in my list and then it dissapears Nov 29 11:16:01 the setDismissCallback clears it from my cursor Nov 29 11:17:24 yeah the flicker is a problem :D Nov 29 11:17:30 unfortunately not a problem i can solve Nov 29 11:17:44 yeah its something i need to do was wondering if you had any ideas Nov 29 11:17:54 i described it in the javadoc, mom Nov 29 11:18:08 appologies :) Nov 29 11:18:32 https://github.com/timroes/EnhancedListView/blob/master/EnhancedListView/src/main/java/de/timroes/android/listview/EnhancedListView.java#L138 Nov 29 11:18:49 the problem is, I cannot know how long you will need to delete the item, if you do it in another thread (like CursorAdapter does) Nov 29 11:19:01 so I must assume it has been deleted when you return from the method Nov 29 11:19:27 meaning you must make sure, somehow through synchonization, that you won't return from the method before your item ahs been deleted Nov 29 11:19:48 unfortauntely CursorAdapter has no easy method to do so, a very very dirty workaround is, to let the thread sleep before returnin from onDimiss Nov 29 11:19:59 for some a mount of time to be a bit more save that the item has been deleted Nov 29 11:20:20 I wanted to have a look into cursor adapter if you can modify it (or build a wrapper to prevent that) .. and again the problem with the lack of spare time :D Nov 29 11:21:15 yeah no worries i will build it into my adapter Nov 29 11:21:41 like a temp deleted state before its actually deleted Nov 29 11:22:31 yeah that will be the best i guess :) Nov 29 11:22:40 someone somewhere posted some kind of snippet to do that :D Nov 29 11:22:47 if i remeber correctly it was on stackoverflow Nov 29 11:22:56 unfortunately i don't have a link right now :/ Nov 29 11:25:42 Hi, all! I need your advice about touchscreen: it has active area about 800x480, but my display has resolution 1280x800.. How can I set right are to the touchscreen? Nov 29 11:26:28 hi! I am looking for a mirror of the SDK files, I am on archlinux and use `sudo android` to download SDK stuff. Is there a mirror in china or a list of mirrors anywhere? Nov 29 11:32:24 ak5, does android tool really need sudo privileges atall? Nov 29 11:35:08 Hello guys, ##java pointed me here. Quick question: I am having a Bitmap I want to copy instead of referencing. Do I need to derivate from Bitmap and implement clonable or is there already a way? Nov 29 11:40:01 I'm trying to reserve a game name I'm working on in the amazon store but when I tested by creating another app with the same name amazon allowed this? Nov 29 11:40:22 Darkchaos: Does Bitmap#copy not work? Nov 29 11:41:13 Or even just Bitmap.createBitmap(Bitmap) Nov 29 11:44:51 Oh that's what I did not even see! :) Nov 29 11:45:00 Which would you prefer Nov 29 11:47:48 I'd prefer to just not copy a bitmap Nov 29 11:50:42 Well, let's say I load one Texture out of the Resources, and then I want to alterate it by e.g. applying some color-filters to it or to do whatever I want, I'd need a copy. However I could still re-read the one from resources. Nov 29 11:55:41 btw, I am starting openGLES Development right now/tomorrow, do I need to take care about double-buffering or will the Engine do it on it's own? (same with android.graphics, however I believe I will remove that part from my engine, since most devices will support openGL ES 2.0, right?) Nov 29 11:57:46 still the same question like every day.. what is the best push method (beside of gcm) to run in a background-service? it tried http(rest), xmpp, mqtt but they are all not very good. (Queueing for nMinutes, reconnceting, _Heartbeath, etc.). Now i could see Deacon but it seems not work work in a background service (subscription works, but as soon as a message sent to the "Channel" it Nov 29 11:57:46 disconncets). Im already running nginx and i dont want to spawn another webserver on a different port. So any idea? Nov 29 12:02:15 hey guys! Would you recommend any easy way to implement printing image via wifi printer in my app? I want something like simple dialog in standart gallery app. Nov 29 12:04:04 pahaloom: I think it needs to write to /opt/ on my system, so yeah but not sure Nov 29 12:43:47 never mind, i found that the android asset studio generates styles information along with graphics. Nov 29 12:44:34 timroes, thnx a lot for all the help i got it working and i got rid of the flicker aswell :) Nov 29 12:44:38 great lib Nov 29 12:47:39 lemonxah: i am glad i could help somehow :) Nov 29 12:52:42 timroes, just one more question how can i stop the side swiping while scrolling that list view? Nov 29 12:58:10 nvm Nov 29 12:58:12 i am stupid Nov 29 13:01:45 Which parent theme should I give a ProgressDialog? If I specify parent="@android/style/theme.Dialog", I get a secondary background color of a box that is wider than the progress dialog Nov 29 13:01:58 And theme.ProgressDialog is not existing Nov 29 13:02:07 -t+T Nov 29 14:25:03 I'm planning to apply test driven development to my Android projects. What are the advantages and which are the most popular frameworks used in the community? Nov 29 14:29:49 why are tab titles in android uppercased? Nov 29 14:31:15 microsoft made it standard in visual studio Nov 29 14:33:08 when I got back to main activity I get a null pointer exception when referencing a button (Button)findViewById(R.id.search_button); , that button comes from a sliding menu, that loads an xml containing the button. Why could that be? The findViewById is executed too fast before the content loads? It happens only when I go back Nov 29 14:36:06 tomasso: that is strange Nov 29 14:36:25 :S yessss i keep scratching my head} Nov 29 14:37:13 tomasso: I can share the scratch for a few minutes, if you share the code :) Nov 29 14:37:52 i also did a while (search_button==null){}; before calling it Nov 29 14:38:01 and waits foreverr Nov 29 14:39:14 its largeee let me make a smaller version Nov 29 14:46:44 hey all! X) Nov 29 14:47:29 anyone know a way you can identify whether you are running on the emulator or a real device?? Nov 29 14:47:44 what would be the best method to notify the UI of a change from a background thread running in a Service context? a Broadcast? Nov 29 14:49:17 <_biff> could i run an apk java parts on a webpage?of course it shuold work corretly... Nov 29 14:49:26 Ge0rg: bind to that service, use handlers? what kind of change? a simple on/off switch on a variable, update a view...etc Nov 29 14:50:01 canvs2321: toggle indeterminate progress, update a view with a status text Nov 29 14:50:24 canvs2321: binding to the service only allows calling from the ui to the service, not getting async results back Nov 29 14:50:36 canvs2321: unless I use message passing, which is not very structured Nov 29 14:50:41 ok, neither are broadcasts. Nov 29 14:51:21 broadcasts i think are a throw it out&someone catches it eventually. Binding you can send messages back to the UI Nov 29 14:51:36 canvs2321: using a Messenger? Nov 29 14:51:44 yea Nov 29 14:51:57 I don't really like that interface. you need a Handler, two Messengers and what not Nov 29 14:52:05 canvs2321, know whether you can identify a *real* vs emulated environment? Nov 29 14:52:24 so far I've failed to actually send a Message to a _background_ thread. the Message is always interpreted on the UI thread :( Nov 29 14:52:35 lacx: not off hand but my google is strong...? Nov 29 14:53:13 thought you wanted to send a message from the background thread, not to? Nov 29 14:53:32 hehe sorry canvs2321 being lazy I thought someone here might have a quick answer, im too impatient! X) Nov 29 14:53:42 canvs2321: correct. sorry for the confusion, I'm already sending messages _to_ the background thread (kind of), but I also need the reply Nov 29 14:54:08 lacx: can guarantee that's a common question already answered. check out stackoverflow or just google it then follow that link to stackoverflow Nov 29 14:55:19 I'm planning to apply test driven development to my Android projects. What are the advantages and which are the most popular frameworks used in the community? Nov 29 14:56:20 cool X) Nov 29 15:07:29 napster: but these presentations should get you started https://speakerdeck.com/jakewharton Nov 29 15:07:49 f2prateek1: cool, thanks mate. Nov 29 15:29:31 <^cheeky> ummm hii .. just wanted to say hope you guys had an awsome thanksgiving :) ok bye bye Nov 29 15:38:03 canvs2321, got it: isEmulator = Build.HARDWARE.equals("goldfish") Nov 29 15:41:06 Guys where can i promote my app Nov 29 15:41:09 for free? Nov 29 15:41:28 I'm poor and can't afford to pay for ads? Nov 29 15:41:47 twitter Nov 29 15:42:04 word of mouth is freww Nov 29 15:42:06 free* Nov 29 15:42:23 Yeah i can't twitter Nov 29 15:42:38 we are coders Nov 29 15:42:47 We are kind of shy Nov 29 15:42:53 get twitter Nov 29 15:42:55 follow other devs Nov 29 15:42:59 ??? Nov 29 15:43:00 profit Nov 29 15:43:15 Geographic restrictions Nov 29 15:43:56 i need effective alternatives Nov 29 16:14:33 DarkSlay3r, viral vids? X) Nov 29 16:57:01 how do i restart my app? Nov 29 16:59:43 kill it in the app switcher, or in settings -> manage apps Nov 29 17:00:13 hiDroids! Nov 29 17:00:44 is there a way to detect that the main menu is shown? (the menu with all the shortcuts to apps) Nov 29 17:01:30 durka42: i mean programmatically Nov 29 17:01:41 oh Nov 29 17:01:43 not sure about that Nov 29 17:02:04 why do you need to do that? is your app as buggy as eclipse? :p Nov 29 17:03:19 durka42: i'm providing a light and a dark theme, and the user can switch between them in preferences. usually apps like this will restart themselves when you switch Nov 29 17:03:33 good point Nov 29 17:03:36 maybe this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15564614/how-to-restart-an-android-application-programmatically Nov 29 17:03:43 thanks Nov 29 17:03:50 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+restart+application Nov 29 17:04:35 i found the answer a while ago CallumTaylor Nov 29 17:04:44 my exact search terms were "android restart app intent" actually Nov 29 17:04:51 :) Nov 29 17:10:00 good day everyone, has anyone tried to implement search with google maps v2? found this tutorial:http://tinyurl.com/meycnln but it seems like I am getting lots of errors while implementing it, not sure how to fix the errors ("getSupportLoaderManager().restartLoader(0, data, this);" error is on restartLoader if anyone have any suggestions or can just point me in a right dirrection, I would highly appretiate it Nov 29 17:14:03 Hi all, does anybody in here use Android Studio? Nov 29 17:18:42 I just completely removed Android Studio and installed from scratch to try and fix this problem but it keeps happning. I create a new project, give it min sdk version 11, and complete the wizard. When the interface comes up I have a Gradle Error claiming "Could not find any version that matches com.android.support:appcompat-v7:+ does anybody know what causes this error? Nov 29 17:31:56 found the reason it's looking for what it's looking for but not the reason it can't find what it's looking for Nov 29 17:31:59 hey just seen something wierd, instantiated a new class (which starts an AsyncTask) in my main activity onCreate() method, though now that seems to be blocking my android:onClick method.. Nov 29 17:32:19 so one of my buttons is no longer firing.. Nov 29 17:33:33 anyone know why that would happen? Nov 29 17:47:14 is there a way to detect that the main menu is shown? (the menu with all the shortcuts to apps) Nov 29 18:27:46 I keep getting force closes at "KeyCharacterMap.java line 334" Nov 29 18:27:48 Any ideas? Nov 29 18:27:52 Can't seem to track this one down Nov 29 18:28:07 And it's effecting quite a few users Nov 29 18:28:16 JoeTheGuest: see the link at the end of the topic? Nov 29 18:29:30 http://pastebin.com/r8LcLZ8h Nov 29 18:30:20 if you want an app to work on iOS and android, whats the best course of action? Nov 29 18:30:34 write two apps? Nov 29 18:30:45