**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 07 02:59:58 2013 Dec 07 03:02:46 derP: http://developer.android.com/google/play/billing/billing_testing.html Dec 07 03:14:34 explodes: is there any particular reason you chose to go with IAP? Dec 07 03:38:31 Developer Error! Dec 07 03:41:35 explodes Dec 07 03:42:03 seand Dec 07 03:42:05 the big D Dec 07 03:42:22 is there any particular reason you decided to go with IAP? Dec 07 03:42:55 i'm trying to decide how to do my paid app when it's released Dec 07 03:43:53 hello all Dec 07 03:44:10 hope all of your day/evnings are going well ^_^ Dec 07 03:52:01 Im looking to get into android development were should i start? Dec 07 03:52:57 http://developer.android.com/training/index.html Dec 07 03:54:18 i want talking about apps lol Dec 07 03:54:39 i mean getting as far into compiling kernels Dec 07 03:54:50 wasnt**** Dec 07 03:56:00 i have this idea of taking my old and super slow android phone and stripping out the phone and texting and cellular networking capabilities out of the os to run only media Dec 07 03:58:03 im also going to be working on a linux distro started from LFS that will flow with the mobile device and the device be able to controll certain aspects of the os and such Dec 07 03:58:16 but i dont know were to start Dec 07 03:58:32 should i start linux side or android side? Dec 07 03:59:59 i would like to do all this in gingerbread seeing as a lot of the older phones should be able to run gingerbreak Dec 07 04:00:10 at least on the device side Dec 07 04:05:03 seand: ease of use, mostly. Dec 07 04:05:41 mdev: compile java with -O to make it go faster Dec 07 04:05:43 explodes: how will you check when the app doesn't have internet access? Dec 07 04:06:14 explodes alrighty thanks Dec 07 04:06:16 we're storing the purchases on a 3rd party system Dec 07 04:06:23 we can cache that information Dec 07 04:06:34 but we're not going to. Dec 07 04:06:49 we're going to assume everyone has internet because the app relies heavily on the internet Dec 07 04:07:06 what with its social sphere and all Dec 07 04:08:12 mdev: -O doesnt work tho ok Dec 07 04:08:15 <|0xD34D|> Chazor_: you should probably start out by getting AOSP, or whatever variant you use, setup and get it building then move on to the other stuff Dec 07 04:08:43 why doesn't it work? Dec 07 04:09:31 mdev: nobody ever implemented it Dec 07 04:10:08 then why'd you say it makes it go faster, you got mixed up? Dec 07 04:10:22 i'm taunting you Dec 07 04:10:32 remember how you got banned from ##java for asking "is java slow" Dec 07 04:10:42 Chazor: android-root Dec 07 04:10:48 and everyone flipped their shit Dec 07 04:10:49 why? gcc if I recall support optimized switched Dec 07 04:10:57 it does Dec 07 04:11:15 but the JVM is an interpreter Dec 07 04:11:30 explodes not everyone acted like that, the one guy was kind enough to give useful information Dec 07 04:11:35 java isn't compiled into machine code, it's compiled into java byte code Dec 07 04:12:58 explodes yeah I know, but i thought the idea is in theory it could run faster than native code as it can produce bytecode optimized for the paticular system after the first run Dec 07 04:13:03 i will look into AOSP and see were that goes thank you Dec 07 04:14:20 0xD34D , I have the device rooted however removing phone and cellular netorking portions of the builds cause them to frease or have constant fc's Dec 07 04:14:21 anyway for mobile it's not an issue, it runs fast enough, I was just probing some general information, I did the same with ##php and no one flipped out and had a nice conversation Dec 07 04:14:34 freeze** Dec 07 04:19:02 Im back Dec 07 04:19:07 Still looking for machines :( Dec 07 04:19:21 I'd need the board/machine to have a case Dec 07 04:19:23 are the dependancys for the cellular network, gps phone and texting stuff run via kernel? Dec 07 04:19:59 do you guys know of a site/repo with collection of open source android apps? Dec 07 04:20:48 no sorry just getting back into android after a few years been stuck with wp7 :,( Dec 07 04:21:00 just google search open source android Dec 07 04:22:15 Chazor_: i'm so sorry Dec 07 04:22:21 that must have been hard for you Dec 07 04:24:55 Anyone have a good filter for logcat they use? Dec 07 04:25:57 Anybody know about any great, more powerful, alternatives to the Raspberry Pi? Dec 07 04:26:13 Or where I can find a dirt cheap mini desktop? Dec 07 04:26:24 Ebay Dec 07 04:26:30 Looked there... Dec 07 04:26:32 old desktop pcs Dec 07 04:26:40 think intel released one recently, it's not as cheap as raspi Dec 07 04:26:44 but is x86 I believe Dec 07 04:26:53 mdev: in the works... not yet out Dec 07 04:27:14 NUC? Dec 07 04:27:40 If so, they are quite expensive... lol Dec 07 04:28:02 that's how intel does it :) Dec 07 04:28:10 hah true Dec 07 04:28:10 premium prices for everything Dec 07 04:30:14 Intel: You can get an artificially constrained processor at a relatively expensive price Dec 07 04:30:28 or a working processor at a premium Dec 07 04:33:13 Anthaas: majority of non-microcontroller ARM SBCs are more powerful than raspi Dec 07 04:33:53 I think that includes stuff that is nearly older than G1 Dec 07 05:02:11 lol dunno how long i was gone but anthaas still talkin about ebay old pcs and raspberry pies which sound amazing Dec 07 05:04:07 turns out i wasn't gone that long rofl Dec 07 05:04:19 Anyone know the fastest way to find a method declaration in eclipse? Dec 07 05:28:35 you know someone is sneaking bad music into your playlist when you here random george bush sound clips Dec 07 05:28:39 hear Dec 07 05:38:28 surprized the irc client didnt dc me lol -_- and yes this phone sucks the lack of support is teribble Dec 07 05:38:36 not even a pandora app Dec 07 05:38:41 v_v Dec 07 05:42:08 lol Dec 07 06:03:51 lasserix: F3? Dec 07 06:05:05 p_l: do you know what function that is supposed to do? i get an error Dec 07 06:20:50 lasserix: I seem to recall that it would go to definition of a method/class that was under text cursor Dec 07 06:20:53 but I might be wrong Dec 07 06:20:58 I don't use Eclipse after all Dec 07 06:43:07 hm, play store 4.5 is out but i still have 4.4 - anyone know why its not updating ? Dec 07 06:53:51 is Play Store pushed out in stages also ? Dec 07 07:07:18 I don't think it's stages as much as not all at once Dec 07 07:08:37 i disabled so many things i may have borked it :) Dec 07 07:10:05 g00s: at the scale they do it... not only is it in stages, the stages might end up so staggered you can wait months for update :P Dec 07 07:10:47 months O.o ? Dec 07 07:12:26 is there a standard package manager like bundler or cocoapods for android? Dec 07 07:15:40 mattvv: just the play store Dec 07 07:16:26 when they update play services, I think it typically takes less than 2 weeks to reach approximately 100% - possibly nearer a few days Dec 07 07:16:58 Leeds ok thx, so things could be ok for my tablet then. Dec 07 07:23:30 Leeds: maybe per-country Dec 07 08:36:03 Argh, anyone know a reliable way to with code close and open the soft keyboard? Dec 07 08:50:50 ahh i see you have to ironically request focus on the edit text before hiding the softkeyboard Dec 07 08:54:59 Hey, im getting some weird results with textColor.getTextBounds("1",0,1,rect ); - I try to draw that rect arount the text but the height is about half the size for some reason. any idea why? Dec 07 09:47:31 <[A3G1S]> hey guys, I've never used any Http library for android I think now it is the time to start using it, can you suggest any library ? Dec 07 10:31:01 anyone here ? Dec 07 10:59:02 The import android.app cannot be resolved Dec 07 10:59:14 when my eclipse -> perference shows android sdk imported Dec 07 10:59:38 The import android.app cannot be resolved Dec 07 10:59:42 when my eclipse -> perference shows android sdk imported Dec 07 11:09:43 is anyone here o.o Dec 07 11:09:44 damn Dec 07 11:13:01 is anyone here ? Dec 07 11:13:03 hello ? Dec 07 11:13:34 hi all Dec 07 11:15:24 If noone answers, ask your question again later Dec 07 11:15:34 Don't start spamming "hello?" "anyone here?" ... Dec 07 11:15:41 ok Dec 07 11:15:57 bu it's a good thing to say hi Dec 07 11:16:06 It wasn't directed at you Dec 07 11:16:06 *but Dec 07 11:20:36 do you know if there is an app for build an app without code ? Dec 07 11:21:13 just a gui Dec 07 11:21:47 for build an app without code. Dec 07 11:25:04 because i want a gui on my tablet Dec 07 11:25:12 and build on it. Dec 07 11:39:42 anyone here Dec 07 11:39:44 ???? Dec 07 11:39:49 Im getting this error Dec 07 11:39:49 http://i.imgur.com/hgjkLZV.png Dec 07 11:44:29 Can it be that sql cannot have too many arguments in the WHERE clause? http://ideone.com/Wgqsey Dec 07 11:50:11 how can i start to build an app ? Dec 07 12:14:24 cortexA9: a) learn Java Dec 07 12:17:54 Leeds: it's not easy :P Dec 07 12:19:22 life is pain Dec 07 12:22:20 Enough material out there in books, webpages, videos, courses, etc. etc. Dec 07 12:23:10 Miklas: how did you start? Dec 07 12:23:16 Leeds: you ? Dec 07 12:23:37 read the topic Dec 07 12:24:02 bankai_: you mean http://d.android.com ? Dec 07 12:24:19 er, I started learning to program about 25 years ago Dec 07 12:24:37 oh cool Leeds Dec 07 12:24:39 Same. Mostly using books. Dec 07 12:24:46 Well not 25 years. Dec 07 12:25:09 Then I went to IT related schools. Dec 07 12:25:17 In any case, nowadays there are tons and tons of websites. Dec 07 12:25:34 Do an internet search for "learn java" and use one of the billion results. Dec 07 12:25:55 Miklas: yea, there are many results. Dec 07 12:26:19 So pick one you like and start coding! ;) Dec 07 12:27:58 Miklas: but i need some experience Of Object Oriented Programming Dec 07 12:28:05 before Dec 07 12:28:28 you won't get experience without coding.... Dec 07 12:29:35 cortexA9: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Java_Programming Dec 07 12:29:56 hi folks Dec 07 12:29:58 i need to get datas on cloud via android.. instead of using cloudclient , i can use rest api on android but writing with java class ?? Dec 07 12:30:19 i write on c# but need help to write it in java http://pastebin.com/wEgpWbiu ? Dec 07 12:32:46 so i need to start with C, right ? Dec 07 12:32:57 Miklas Dec 07 12:33:03 before java Dec 07 12:33:04 i mean Dec 07 12:33:26 cortexA9: do you know any programming? Dec 07 12:33:39 and are you actually serious about learning? Dec 07 12:33:54 Leeds: no atm. But i wanna learn. yes. Dec 07 12:34:15 cortexA9: There is no reason to start with C. Every language has it's advantages and disadvantages. Dec 07 12:34:26 ok, well you don't need to learn C first, but you do need to have patience Dec 07 12:34:54 Leeds: ok Dec 07 12:34:55 cortexA9: However, mainly Java is used when developing for Android and as this is your first language, Java is a pretty good starting point. Dec 07 12:35:18 Check out the link to the book, start reading that. How to setup, how to create your first program, everything is explained. Dec 07 12:35:24 Miklas: what was your first language. Dec 07 12:35:40 ok Dec 07 12:35:41 thanks Dec 07 12:35:47 greek Dec 07 12:36:10 i mean programming language. Dec 07 12:36:20 Mine was Javascript, but I would not recommend that as a starting point. Dec 07 12:36:43 #java is probably a better channel to join too Dec 07 12:36:44 i need to get datas on cloud via android.. instead of using cloudclient , i can use rest api on android but writing with java class ?? any suggestions Dec 07 12:36:51 mine was BASIC, but I *definitely* wouldn't recommend that Dec 07 12:37:49 kansai: what do you want to know? you're not asking a question.. Dec 07 12:38:20 bankai_ u from koh phangan ? Dec 07 12:38:41 i don't know what that is Dec 07 12:38:44 bankai_: i write on c# but need help to write it in java http://pastebin.com/wEgpWbiu ? Dec 07 12:39:02 learn java then.... Dec 07 12:39:56 I am struggling to nest TableLayouts... I want to display TableLayouts side by side by placing them in a TableRow but it doesn't seem to work while http://pastebin.com/9Uh1N6pg does work Dec 07 12:40:00 any advice? Dec 07 12:41:29 nested table layouts sounds like a bad design Dec 07 12:43:06 bankai_: i need to get datas on cloud via android.. instead of using cloudclient , i can use rest api on android but writing with java class... any code or source ?? Dec 07 12:43:17 What would be a good alternative? I want grids within grid boxes so nested TableLayouts seemed like the obvious choice Dec 07 12:49:15 Miklas: i found C hard. Dec 07 12:50:07 Leeds: any alternatives ? Dec 07 12:50:32 Java? Dec 07 12:50:50 Leeds: need to see it. Dec 07 12:51:32 and who is stopping you from looking it up? Dec 07 12:51:45 hehe Leeds no one :) Dec 07 12:52:41 so here Leeds http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/ Dec 07 12:52:50 i think Dec 07 12:53:19 why does http://pastebin.com/ZFb071ef this print nothing to the screen? Dec 07 13:06:28 conor_f make use of some kind of adapter Dec 07 13:06:38 for instance, put your tablelayouts inside a gridview Dec 07 13:06:58 though it depends on what you are actually trying to design Dec 07 13:07:16 i just say this because later you're going to have a lot of pain dealing with a fairly entrenched layout Dec 07 13:10:01 conor_f i believe layoutINNER layout params are supposed to be that of the parent it's being added to (relative layout, not table layout) Dec 07 13:12:07 lasserix: but it displays correctly when I leave out "bigTr" and display each "miniTable" as a new row of "layoutINNER" Dec 07 13:12:41 What sort of pain would I have to deal with because of nested TableLayouts? Dec 07 13:13:07 like what you are dealing with now Dec 07 13:14:04 haha good point Dec 07 13:15:17 It's a pity. The concept matched so nicely :/ I wanted a 3x3 grid in each cell of a larger 3x3 grid Dec 07 13:15:38 so adapters you say? Dec 07 13:17:27 You could get it to work Dec 07 13:17:34 but imagine if it changes or whatever Dec 07 13:18:14 so like you could do a grid view where the cells of the grid are the "parent" and in the getview of your baseadapter you return the the samller 3x3 grid Dec 07 13:18:22 but it really depends on waht your end goal is Dec 07 13:19:00 the end goal is just one set layout of a 3x3 grid containing 3x3 grids Dec 07 13:19:29 I don't know anything about adapters atm so I can't tell if I should switch to them> Dec 07 13:19:32 *? Dec 07 13:26:41 an adapter is a bridge between your data and the ui, so for instance a gallery app might have images it needs to dump into some views, the adapter does that for you Dec 07 13:27:15 in this case you could set it up so the data your adapter is working with contains information about the grids you are making Dec 07 13:29:18 so you want 81 evenly sized tiles? Dec 07 13:29:53 pretty much Dec 07 13:30:15 except every 3rd row/col should be spaced Dec 07 13:30:58 oh yeah Dec 07 13:31:01 so like a grid view Dec 07 13:31:05 would be easy to do this Dec 07 13:31:07 yeah Dec 07 13:31:14 grid view Dec 07 13:31:17 because you have 81 evenly sized tiles Dec 07 13:31:23 okay Dec 07 13:31:35 then you just find the correct type of number to add a margin for spacing Dec 07 13:31:59 are you talking about GridView or Adapters now? Dec 07 13:32:21 gridview is a type of list view except it's not necessarily vertical rows Dec 07 13:32:34 these views are backed by adapters you code Dec 07 13:33:21 though it would probably take you some time to learn how to do it it'll save you epochs of time and if you're planning on doing more android stuff you'll have to learn it anyways Dec 07 13:33:44 ok Dec 07 13:33:50 Suppose I best learn it :/ Dec 07 13:34:19 I feel like an aging web developer still trying to cling on to using haha Dec 07 13:34:21 this will get you started http://www.androidhive.info/2012/02/android-gridview-layout-tutorial/ Dec 07 13:34:42 hehe Dec 07 13:34:47 it's always give and take Dec 07 13:35:00 umm Dec 07 13:35:20 you can think of adapters maybe as style mutators for a given set of data Dec 07 13:35:42 the important method is getView which returns the "cell" based on the position Dec 07 13:36:15 this is called by the listview (gridview in this case) that is set to the adapter Dec 07 13:36:35 ok Dec 07 13:36:53 sorry i am fairly incoherent been coding since ~14 hours ago Dec 07 13:37:21 no hassle :) I understand. I'll let you get back to it so. Thanks for the help! Dec 07 13:42:43 conor_f you could also get the screen dimensions, convert to dp, divide the width by 9, then add 9 tiles (with spacing on 3 and 6) to 9 horizontal linear layout rows (height divided by 9, with 3 and 6 having spacing again) Dec 07 13:43:05 but for instance what are you going to do about aspect ratio? Dec 07 13:44:13 I'm trying to create a nested tic-tac-toe Dec 07 13:44:28 lasserix: sounds like you should sleep within an hour or two. Dec 07 13:44:51 conor_f: sounds like suduko Dec 07 13:44:54 uncmar, yeah that's the plan take the cat out around sunrise and head to bed :) Dec 07 13:45:20 uncmar_: good point. I hadn't looked at it that way... Dec 07 13:47:46 hi. how can i get the options menu selected item index? Dec 07 13:48:33 ok found it Dec 07 13:49:55 Does the "handler Dec 07 13:50:20 I'm very conflicted :/ Dec 07 13:50:20 handler's method "postDelayed" will have delay of itself ? Dec 07 13:50:37 bluesm that is way to metaphysical Dec 07 13:50:53 ;p but no if you set postdelayed to 1ms you'll see it fire ~1ms later Dec 07 13:51:11 lasserix: Well Dec 07 13:51:27 lasserix: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20433024/why-android-os-handlers-method-postdelay-is-delayed-1-3-ms-every-time Dec 07 13:51:48 If I could use nested TableLayouts, it would be very easy to implement the game functionality for onClick() etc. But I know now that GridView + Adapters is probably the correct way to do it :S Dec 07 13:52:19 bluesm because they should put Dec 07 13:52:26 the postDelayed at the end of that runnable Dec 07 13:52:45 the 1-2 seconds is probably the fact they are convering a bunch of string stuff Dec 07 13:53:17 also that code shouldn't work since you cant (or shouldnt be able to) change the UI from non UI thread Dec 07 13:53:33 you have to call postToUiThread on the textview the runnable or runonuithread Dec 07 13:54:07 conor_f it sounded like a dimensioning problem, like either WRAP content or MATCH parent was throwing it off Dec 07 13:54:29 one thing to keep in mind is that the size of a view will generally return 0 if you call getSize from onCreate Dec 07 13:54:39 because onCreate is not garunteed to have laid out all the views Dec 07 13:54:54 i would just try to make a 3 x 3 grid Dec 07 13:55:06 then make a 1 row of 3 3x3 grids Dec 07 13:55:12 and work from there Dec 07 13:55:30 That's what I have been doing lasserix Dec 07 13:56:04 It displays one image fine, then 3 images in a table row, then a 3x3 grid fine Dec 07 13:56:23 bluesm: but the main thing is what the other person said: thread sleeping is not accurate only percise Dec 07 13:56:36 then it gets weird. It will display 3 columns of 3x3 grids, but it won't display them all in one row Dec 07 13:57:43 hmm start over ? ;p! Dec 07 13:58:00 bluesm did you try running a handler post delayed with nothing but a call to logcat? Dec 07 14:01:05 hi again. how can i get the options menu selected item index? Dec 07 14:03:19 i don't want to use the resource ids , because I have the Menu items as item1 item2 ..item3 , so i want to insert the index right on in the url passed to the webview I have.! Dec 07 14:10:25 lasserix: Log just " System.currentTimeMillis() - MainActivity.this.clickedButtonTime" ? Dec 07 14:12:33 ahh Dec 07 14:12:37 well Dec 07 14:12:38 a Dec 07 14:12:53 you want to use SystemClock.upTimeMillis() because currentTime is not garunteed to be monotonic Dec 07 14:13:13 also both calls to currentTime must be on the same thread Dec 07 14:13:25 clock calls between threads are not reliable Dec 07 14:13:31 afaik Dec 07 14:18:04 lasserix: See. Dec 07 14:19:15 lasserix: See at the code the, conversion to string happend AFTER scheduling next handler... Dec 07 14:19:18 see Dec 07 14:19:37 o/ Dec 07 14:19:44 real men do clock calls between threads Dec 07 14:20:15 sigsegv 11, googled everything and derpin in and out ): any suggestions what to look for? Dec 07 14:20:57 lasserix: The same thing happend when logging to the logcat : http://grab.by/sERc Dec 07 14:21:51 bluesm use SystemClock.upTimeMillis() Dec 07 14:22:15 currentTime is not garunteed to be monotonic which means that you can call it once and get 100 and then call it immediatatly afterward and get 98 Dec 07 14:23:11 also you are comparing two time stamps across different threads Dec 07 14:23:16 which doesn't work Dec 07 14:24:19 any tools to get extensive logcat logs? Dec 07 14:31:55 lasserix: Dec 07 14:33:08 ? Dec 07 14:33:23 lasserix: So this is : http://grab.by/sERy because I calculated first "time" on the UI thread ? line 57 Dec 07 14:33:58 lasserix: But then I compare it with upTime from the "handlers's" upTime ? Dec 07 14:34:23 the handler is just a call back designed for threads Dec 07 14:34:44 so the "handler's uptime" means the time gotten on a thread other than the UI thread Dec 07 14:34:49 to see for yourself you can do Dec 07 14:34:58 Thread.currentThread.getName or whatever Dec 07 14:35:06 but that couldbe the source of the problem Dec 07 14:36:48 are you using actual device to test? Dec 07 14:36:56 seems some people have problem with emular Dec 07 14:37:13 actual device. Dec 07 14:37:17 lasserix: ^ Dec 07 14:39:15 hmm Dec 07 14:39:30 i got to take a break when i come back ill see what i get Dec 07 14:39:52 i once made a metronome and the only way to get real ms and less accuracy was to make a method that polled the systemclock Dec 07 14:39:55 lasserix: Get a kitkat :) Dec 07 14:40:06 and then triggered when the now time exceeded the calculated elapsed time Dec 07 14:40:09 I'm trying to fill in my bank details into Google Play but I'm not sure what to input for Bank Code? I've tried entering my BIC and IBAN? Dec 07 14:40:11 Anybody know any good, more powerful, Raspberry Pi alternatives? Dec 07 14:40:50 For under �100 Dec 07 14:42:40 <[7]> anyone where who has a clue how internal "sd card" emulation of android 4.2.2 works? Dec 07 14:43:15 <[7]> I'm not quite understanding how init.rc, zygote and vold interact with each other for that... Dec 07 14:44:39 Anthaas: I don't want put you off... but this is not hardware channel... It is better even on #android channel since they talk about software and the hardware... This channel is probably only for the development for android :) Dec 07 14:45:04 Yeah I know, I just figured a couple people in here might have an idea. Dec 07 14:45:08 Sorry. Dec 07 15:05:53 lasserix: Those are the same threads ? with the "main" name ? http://grab.by/sESK Dec 07 15:18:46 hey, i've got a Horizontal Scroll view with setLongClickable(true) and a listener, the view does not catch the long click, any idea why? Dec 07 15:26:22 anyone? I dont seem to have listeners conflicting (got no other listeners) Dec 07 15:26:29 how can i diagnose this one? Dec 07 15:34:31 You can check if it actually handles long clicks Dec 07 15:36:35 SimonVT: What do you mean, i have a breakpoint on the listener and it never gets there, what else can i do? Dec 07 15:38:14 Anyone know if execSQL is faster than rawQuery for insertions on average? Dec 07 15:38:25 Long clicks are handled in View's onTouchEvent.. Since HorizontalScrollView handles touch events it has to override that method Dec 07 15:38:41 For you to be able to long click it has to either call through to super or handle long clicks itself Dec 07 15:38:45 You can check if it does that Dec 07 15:43:49 SimonVT: I know it's a noob question, but how am I suppose to check that? Look in HSV's sources and find it's onTouchListener? Dec 07 15:47:38 Yep Dec 07 15:55:19 yo Dec 07 15:55:53 is there any way to use a custom action bar layout via styles XML? I can only seem to find answers on SO doing it programatically Dec 07 15:57:52 hi guys... a quick question regarding modifying an AOSP app (like the contacts provider for example). I understand you can't open the entire AOSP source code in eclipse and build it... so what is the proper way to modify a native app ? Dec 07 16:04:08 never mind, got it "android:customNavigationLayout" along with "android:displayOptions=showCustom" Dec 07 16:12:15 I am trying to figure out how to place 4 widgets like this: http://i.imgur.com/OovI0hE.png is there a way to use a grid layout for this? or else what is the best way? Dec 07 16:13:26 Does contentobserver onChange(selfChange, uri) override the calling of onChange(selfChange) for the apis that support it? Dec 07 16:13:51 when I connect my phone to my computer with USB debugging enabled it shows an RSA key fingerprint. How do I verify that it's actually mine? My computer is running Ubuntu 13.10. Dec 07 16:18:42 serp_ look at linear layout weights Dec 07 16:18:51 http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/layout/linear.html Dec 07 16:19:10 so I would nest two of those Dec 07 16:19:11 ? Dec 07 16:19:16 one vertical in the middle one Dec 07 16:19:46 i'd have a horizontal linear layout, weight sum of 60 with 3 children Dec 07 16:20:21 the first child layout_weight of 40, second as 20 and third as 40, and the second layout i'd make a vertical linear layout with weight sum of 100 inside 2 children each with layout_weight of 50 Dec 07 16:21:42 CallumTaylor: nice, did the trick Dec 07 16:21:43 thanks! Dec 07 16:21:46 np Dec 07 16:26:41 Hi. I am developing an app that contains 50% numbers and 50% letter/words. I have chosen one font face to support all numeric and english contect. But what is a good practice if i want to support multilingual content for a few other languages like greek, japanese, etc? Given that the font I have chosen only supports latin characters and symbols, what should i do to support other languages? Roboto supports Greek characters but not japanese. Is t Dec 07 16:35:28 * lupine is looking to add ssl client cert support to an existing android application (yaaic). eclipse is de rigeur, presumably ? Dec 07 16:52:34 Does anyone know if it's possible to re-route audio signal on Nexus 5 ? I'd like to be able to process the incoming voice audio, before sending it over to the modem Dec 07 16:57:06 OX1D, on most devices that isn't possible Dec 07 16:58:50 Mavrik - not possible because of hardware implementation ? Dec 07 16:58:57 yes Dec 07 16:59:10 as the mic is connected directly to the modem ? Dec 07 16:59:39 basically kernel driver just sets up the call and the voice communication goes pass the SoC Dec 07 17:00:03 not on all devices though, I'm not sure if exact details are available for N5 yer Dec 07 17:00:42 what do you mean by "voice communication goes pass the SoC" ? Dec 07 17:01:27 on some devices call audio is not processed by the main processor which makes access to it impossible Dec 07 17:02:33 so how can you mix sounds into the call like call waiting tones ? Dec 07 17:02:40 sms sounds Dec 07 17:02:41 etc... Dec 07 17:03:42 OX1D, that's not part of mic audio now is it_ Dec 07 17:03:44 ? Dec 07 17:04:09 no... but if consider the opposite direction (modem to speaker) Dec 07 17:04:40 it probably goes through the same flow, no ? Dec 07 17:04:45 not really Dec 07 17:05:49 OX1D, it seems that on N5 it is possible to access mic flow, those people did it: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=polis.app.callrecorder Dec 07 17:07:58 any idea how this is done ? Dec 07 17:22:28 hi Dec 07 17:23:04 anyone has configured eclipse to debug android framework ? Dec 07 17:31:01 ech0s7 - i just asked this question not long ago Dec 07 17:31:20 OX1D: have you configured well ? Dec 07 17:31:45 i was told that intellij can be used in order to attach remote android processes for debugging Dec 07 18:06:21 hi Dec 07 18:26:02 greetings all Dec 07 18:26:29 i am looking to do a similiar slide effect that is seen in iOS applications. For example, I press a listview item and the screen slides to the left to show a new view (activity) Dec 07 18:29:23 <|0xD34D|> xximjasonxx: see http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Activity.html#overridePendingTransition(int, int) Dec 07 18:31:06 xximjasonxx: use SlidingPaneLayout - https://developer.android.com/reference/android/support/v4/widget/SlidingPaneLayout.html Dec 07 18:32:31 what do you guys ask of your android developer candidates? Dec 07 18:33:19 funkbox: like in interviews ? Dec 07 18:33:25 yep Dec 07 18:35:14 I am not an employer, but they usually look at your portfolio..ask about content providers, asynctasks etc...(I am talking about beginners here)...what level are you asking about? Dec 07 18:35:36 silver-one: senior Dec 07 18:36:01 someone who could write a fancy AdapterView from scratch with recycling say Dec 07 18:36:25 sorry, no idea...never seen a senior interview before... Dec 07 18:38:24 depends on you....mostly about the stuff you have implemented before....to make sure that u have done it Dec 07 18:40:09 i'm thinking of pair programming through a project, but hard to find something that's doable within an hour or two Dec 07 18:40:35 Can someone help me fix the error I get building my first project on the command line: http://fpaste.org/59839/86441606/ Dec 07 18:44:35 Plouj says right there "/res/crunch" invalid Dec 07 18:44:47 can't just make up your own directories :) Dec 07 18:44:56 under res anyhow Dec 07 18:45:32 Navigation drawer by default in my theme (holo light based on dark actionbar) has an item selected color over the list Dec 07 18:45:57 Any easy way to get rid of the selector for the "selected" item and not the other states a list item can be in Dec 07 18:46:04 like pressed Dec 07 18:46:17 Zooklubba: screenshot ? Dec 07 18:47:00 silver-one: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/1/view/nw70hh380yfkkz6/Public/Captured/vA4Wl.png Dec 07 18:47:25 I have clicked that one, it takes me to another activity. When I leave the second activity and get back to the main one (with the drawer) it's selected Dec 07 18:48:03 Anyone touch Google's mobile backend starter? Dec 07 18:50:24