**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Dec 10 02:59:58 2013
Dec 10 03:00:23 <onr> where you're supposed to see it?
Dec 10 03:00:55 <ml417> in the API guides
Dec 10 03:01:18 <ml417> oh wait i found it
Dec 10 03:01:36 <ml417> the half a dozen getScaledx methods made me miss it
Dec 10 03:01:56 <onr> i think you can use getSize too
Dec 10 03:02:19 <ml417> writing with a min SDK version of 8
Dec 10 03:02:22 <ml417> 10*
Dec 10 03:02:43 <ml417> one of my teammates has a Droid X with gingerbread on it
Dec 10 03:07:24 <ml417> okay, quick question, what values does the accellerometer return?
Dec 10 03:07:58 <ml417> is it a value between 0 and 1 or something else?
Dec 10 03:14:35 <ml417> oy, i just answered my own collision detection question from earlier x.x
Dec 10 03:23:15 <Wavesonics> I've got a custom view w\ custom XML attributes, and in one use case it works just fine, gets the Attributes I set on it. And in another place, the custom XML attributes are just missing from the AttributeSet I get passed, anyone seem something like this?
Dec 10 03:37:32 <wmealing> just so I'm reading this right
Dec 10 03:37:38 <wmealing> you have an view, which you inflate from xml
Dec 10 03:37:41 <wmealing> you set some stuff on it
Dec 10 03:37:52 <wmealing> you use the same view, somewhere else, which you inflate from xml
Dec 10 03:38:01 <wmealing> and you check some stuff on the new view, and the previous stuff you set wasn't there
Dec 10 03:56:53 <ml417> so my app is getting a bunch of Timed out waiting on IInputContextCallback, but only for 4/5 times i try launching an activity
Dec 10 03:59:29 <Wavesonics> wmealing, sorry didnt see you replied! I figured it out
Dec 10 03:59:34 <Wavesonics> instead of this:
Dec 10 03:59:35 <Wavesonics> xmlns:app="http://schemas.android.com/apk/res-auto"
Dec 10 03:59:37 <Wavesonics> I had this:
Dec 10 03:59:42 <Wavesonics> xmlns:app="schemas.android.com/apk/res-auto"
Dec 10 03:59:52 <Wavesonics> nothing through an error... it just didn't work...
Dec 10 04:10:51 <Rudolf_> Hi guys
Dec 10 04:11:38 <Rudolf_> Can i use my ps3 for building? I have a custom firmware so i can install ubuntu on it.
Dec 10 04:11:55 <bankai_> congratulations, you are the 694th person to say hi today!
Dec 10 04:12:12 <ml417> hi
Dec 10 04:12:20 <Rudolf_> K...good...glad to know bro
Dec 10 04:12:41 <Rudolf_> Now can you answer me please?
Dec 10 04:12:58 <shmooz> lol
Dec 10 04:14:06 <bankai_> you want to build what with it ? android apps? well i can't see why not if it's x86 running linux
Dec 10 04:14:32 <Rudolf_> Bankai, apps and roms too.
Dec 10 04:14:54 <Rudolf_> Does a ps3 has those specs?
Dec 10 04:15:20 <Rudolf_> I mean it requires a considerable power to build a rom on a pc.
Dec 10 04:15:32 <bankai_> *shrugs* ask #android-root or something, this is an app dev channel
Dec 10 04:16:15 <Rudolf_> Ah...sorry...but you must be having an idea
Dec 10 04:16:54 <bankai_> can it do it? probably...
Dec 10 04:17:06 <Rudolf_> Right bankai_
Dec 10 04:17:12 <Rudolf_> Hmm
Dec 10 04:17:27 <Rudolf_> Dunno...i am asking you :l
Dec 10 04:17:39 <shmooz> Rudolf_: get one of those $399 17.3 inch laptops
Dec 10 04:17:48 <canvs2321> Rudolf_: you don't seem to understand. This is an App dev channel. so adios?
Dec 10 04:18:10 <Rudolf_> K man...no issues
Dec 10 04:18:16 <Rudolf_> Thanks anyways
Dec 10 04:18:32 <shmooz> I don't see anyone doing android dev on ps3
Dec 10 04:18:34 <Rudolf_> I mean you guys are into dev so you must be knowing.
Dec 10 04:18:45 <Rudolf_> Hmm
Dec 10 04:18:47 <canvs2321> Yeah app dev'ing
Dec 10 04:18:47 <wmealing> ps3 is not x8
Dec 10 04:18:48 <wmealing> x86
Dec 10 04:18:49 <Rudolf_> Okies
Dec 10 04:18:59 <canvs2321> /part already?
Dec 10 04:20:58 <bankai_> canvs2321: oh good job ... why didn't you just say that to start with ?
Dec 10 04:21:14 <ml417> lol
Dec 10 04:21:25 <ml417> i need help with my collision detection
Dec 10 04:21:27 <ml417> http://pastebin.com/HrHu74jj
Dec 10 04:21:37 <ml417> it's sending my ball haywire and through things
Dec 10 04:21:42 <bankai_> you said you fixed that
Dec 10 04:21:47 <ml417> though mostly to the end of a wall
Dec 10 04:22:00 <ml417> the app isn't crashing
Dec 10 04:22:13 <wmealing> so you got that going for you
Dec 10 04:22:15 <canvs2321> :)
Dec 10 04:22:19 <wmealing> which is nice
Dec 10 04:22:29 <ml417> it just doesn't gurantee to start every time
Dec 10 04:23:27 <canvs2321> ml417: you are aware of logcat? or atleast on screen display of coordinates?
Dec 10 04:23:39 <JackYoun> is it always returns true?
Dec 10 04:24:49 <ml417> logcat yes
Dec 10 04:24:56 <ml417> on screen display i haven't added yet
Dec 10 04:25:08 <ml417> yeah, the return true thing is useless
Dec 10 04:25:33 <ml417> it sets the velocity and position variables depending on the results
Dec 10 04:25:36 <canvs2321> then use it! :) i'm saying you are going blind with your current situation, debug! something is going haywire, you should know the why where and what of it, it shouldn't be voodoo
Dec 10 04:25:58 <ml417> i can see the ball on my screen
Dec 10 04:26:07 <ml417> it's just not going where it should
Dec 10 04:26:08 <g00s_> grab it .. quick !
Dec 10 04:26:12 <canvs2321> yeah you can see it going haywire
Dec 10 04:26:29 <ml417> mostly teleporting using the walls instead of stopping at them
Dec 10 04:27:03 <ml417> it's a problem with my logic on the collision detection
Dec 10 04:27:11 <canvs2321> it's simple to to add log entries to know position, velocity, collision detects etc, using a simple Log.i/Log.d/Log.WHATEVER to see the ball on screen then read why it is where it is on the screen
Dec 10 04:27:13 <ml417> or at least the positioning based on it
Dec 10 04:27:46 <canvs2321> too much action/reaction using just your sight of a ball isn't working, so get the statistics
Dec 10 04:28:10 <ml417> it's a school project that is due tomorrow
Dec 10 04:28:26 <JackYoun> method name is checkCollision...
Dec 10 04:28:46 <canvs2321> i'm telling you to take in all the information, not just what you see.  Take in why you are seeing what you are seeing
Dec 10 04:28:50 <ml417> group project
Dec 10 04:29:13 <ml417> i try working the logic on paper/my head
Dec 10 04:29:30 <JackYoun> but it isnt check method.
Dec 10 04:30:00 <canvs2321> don't do that, cuz you can't trust anything on paper&especially what's in your head, use the data used that is to draw your object?
Dec 10 04:30:23 <ml417> okay, so how do i make that stuff apear on logcat
Dec 10 04:30:28 <ml417> appear*
Dec 10 04:30:32 <canvs2321> using Log
Dec 10 04:30:37 <JackYoun> you should be separate the logic
Dec 10 04:30:45 <JackYoun> check and modified status..
Dec 10 04:30:57 <ml417> i didnt write most of that chunk of code
Dec 10 04:31:26 <ml417> right now i'm focused on getting it working correctly
Dec 10 04:32:04 <ml417> canvs2321 can you write a line of code for me that will write to logcat?
Dec 10 04:32:13 <ml417> i dont really have much android coding experience in general
Dec 10 04:32:21 <ml417> or at all
Dec 10 04:32:35 <canvs2321> Log.i("MyAppTag_whereImAtInMyCode","currentX:"+ currentX + "/currentY:" + currentY + "|collison:" + collisionDetected); whatever, just take your needed data and extrapolate(sp?)
Dec 10 04:32:50 <shmooz> ml417: sounds like you are checking where its not matching, and skipping the point of collision
Dec 10 04:33:35 <ml417> i'm trying to set the ball next to the wall if it detects a collision
Dec 10 04:33:37 <shmooz> ml417: you might need to check for a range like if greater than and less than so it doesn't step through the collision without being detected
Dec 10 04:33:54 <ml417> at the very least i'm setting velocity in that direction to 0 so it does not move into the wall
Dec 10 04:34:18 <ml417> i have velocity limited so it doesnt step through
Dec 10 04:34:39 <canvs2321> Log is simple&effective, you Log.X("MYTAG","MYDATAPOINTS");
Dec 10 04:35:20 <ml417> i clipped the data from the accelerometer at 5 and set velocity to accel * length or width of cell / 5
Dec 10 04:35:48 <ml417> what would "mytag" be?
Dec 10 04:36:35 <ml417> wait, i think i answered myself
Dec 10 04:37:03 <canvs2321> don't use mytag, use urtag :P
Dec 10 04:37:04 <ml417> would it be like Log.i("xVelocity", mVx);??
Dec 10 04:37:19 <canvs2321> yeah anything you wanna log&see what's happening
Dec 10 04:37:43 <canvs2321> maybe Log.i("xVelocity",""+ mVx); as log want's a string
Dec 10 04:39:05 <ml417> okay
Dec 10 04:39:32 <ml417> so ""+ is a blank string that adds mVx to it?
Dec 10 04:40:03 <canvs2321> yeah, it just makes it take mVx if it's an integer,float,double or whatever&concats it as a string
Dec 10 04:40:28 <ml417> okay, thought so
Dec 10 04:40:34 <ml417> i know c++
Dec 10 04:40:43 <ml417> at least to a certain level
Dec 10 04:40:48 <canvs2321> :) Log will be your friend
Dec 10 04:41:03 <ml417> i know debugger is with my c++ projects
Dec 10 04:41:14 <canvs2321> you know how to view logcat?
Dec 10 04:41:19 <ml417> yeah
Dec 10 04:41:22 <canvs2321> k
Dec 10 04:41:31 <ml417> it's built into eclipse ADT anyways
Dec 10 04:41:44 <canvs2321> before release you can always comment out, or remove any Log.X();
Dec 10 04:41:52 <ml417> but i've been using ADB long before i ever considered writing anything for android, much less need to for a class
Dec 10 04:42:02 <wmealing> get off my lawn
Dec 10 04:42:03 <canvs2321> or if you have windows just open command prompt and adb logcat etc
Dec 10 04:42:15 <ml417> lol i know
Dec 10 04:42:19 <canvs2321> wmealing: lawns are over rated, grow a garden
Dec 10 04:44:42 <bankai_> gotta have chickens too - free eggs!
Dec 10 04:45:14 <canvs2321> free after u pay for them&build them a coop&feed them :)
Dec 10 04:46:45 <ml417> don't forget taken that coop apart after you eat all the chickens
Dec 10 04:46:54 <ml417> taking*
Dec 10 04:47:29 <canvs2321> never it's a perpetual harvest :)
Dec 10 04:47:49 <canvs2321> just slaughter the pig&make bacon!
Dec 10 04:48:31 <ml417> but i'm jewish
Dec 10 04:48:57 <canvs2321> then grow some spinach with your eggs :)
Dec 10 04:49:24 <canvs2321> on your lawn with green beans, bell peppers&all the assorted veggies :)
Dec 10 04:49:36 <ml417> i love meat though
Dec 10 04:49:42 <ml417> especially lamb
Dec 10 04:49:47 <canvs2321> and let the pig sleep in the laundry room
Dec 10 04:49:59 <g00s_> i'm interested in all the cool stuff for indoor (apartment) growing
Dec 10 04:50:11 <g00s_> i'd set up some space and grow my own kale
Dec 10 04:50:20 <JesusFreke> g00s_: are you saying you're growing... herbs... indoors? :p
Dec 10 04:50:33 <g00s_> greens :)
Dec 10 04:50:40 <shmooz> bah, I know you are all just a bunch of potheads
Dec 10 04:50:41 <ml417> it'll be legal in 5-10 years anyways
Dec 10 04:50:49 <canvs2321> g00s_: get some compact flourescents(sp?) or HID lighting and use hydro!
Dec 10 04:50:54 <g00s_> now way man, don't smoke, chew, or date women that do :D
Dec 10 04:51:21 <g00s_> canvs2321 yeah, looking at some indoor hydroponics, etc
Dec 10 04:51:21 <canvs2321> what about dudes?
Dec 10 04:51:27 <ml417> i don't need pot to feel high, a 15 hour coding session lasting until 4-5am does it for me
Dec 10 04:51:28 <g00s_> fish, etc
Dec 10 04:51:39 <shmooz> good, don't smoke it, all the more for me
Dec 10 04:51:40 <canvs2321> that's aquaponics :)
Dec 10 04:51:45 <g00s_> yeah :D
Dec 10 04:52:06 <g00s_> some really adventurous people try this in their apartments (at small scale)
Dec 10 04:52:23 <JesusFreke> ml417: try didgeridoo for 1 hour straight sometime :)
Dec 10 04:53:07 <ml417> try band camp on tuba
Dec 10 04:53:31 <ml417> that's marching band for you non-americans
Dec 10 04:53:36 <JesusFreke> nah, you (generally) don't circular breathe with a tuba
Dec 10 04:53:52 <ml417> very few people can do that to begin with
Dec 10 04:54:06 <canvs2321> g00s_: Hyrdo equiptment can be acquired at most Big Stores, just google it&conquer!
Dec 10 04:54:12 <JesusFreke> it's pretty much a requirement for didgeridoo playing
Dec 10 04:54:27 <ml417> well i guess i can't play the didgeridoo
Dec 10 04:54:36 <JesusFreke> it just takes practice, like anything :)
Dec 10 04:54:49 <g00s_> canvs2321 yeah, but its no fun unless EACH PLANT is on the internet of things :D
Dec 10 04:54:51 <ml417> also i was taught a breathing technique that can get you high on oxygen in 10 minutes instead of an hour
Dec 10 04:54:56 <shmooz> I like how jamiriquai used it in their acid jazz
Dec 10 04:54:57 <g00s_> each plant must have its own IP ;)
Dec 10 04:55:30 <ml417> you do know that circular breathing is pretty much an airway deformty
Dec 10 04:55:37 <canvs2321> no each plant needs it's PH & food requirements, keep deligent&you will be prosperous(sp?)
Dec 10 04:55:48 <ml417> i think the odds of being able to physically do it are somewhere in the 1 to 50 or something like that
Dec 10 04:55:52 <canvs2321> far off topic so i'll stop :)
Dec 10 04:55:59 <JesusFreke> ml417: no, it's physically possible for everyone
Dec 10 04:56:02 <Nilium> (sp indeed)
Dec 10 04:56:13 <JesusFreke> well, everyone with a normal respiratory system, at least
Dec 10 04:56:28 <ml417> hmm are we talking about the same type of circular breathing?
Dec 10 04:56:32 <JesusFreke> you just store air in your cheeks, and then push it out your mouth with your cheeks while you inhale through the nose
Dec 10 04:56:34 <Nilium> I want a robot body.
Dec 10 04:57:08 <ml417> either way, this has really gotten off topic
Dec 10 04:57:14 <ml417> i have a teleporting ball i need to take care of
Dec 10 04:57:15 <JesusFreke> just a bit :)
Dec 10 05:01:42 <dogarrhea> Anyone know about the Tinder app? of course u do
Dec 10 05:02:17 <dogarrhea> i write a stupid monkeyrunner script and press like in while true loop. i post the results on a blog and advertise it. i hope people realize this app is dumb and will leave it kek
Dec 10 05:02:57 <wmealing> wonder if that's the real JesusFreke.
Dec 10 05:02:58 <ml417> hmm, do i need to override touch or keyboard controls if i don't use them?
Dec 10 05:03:01 <Nilium> wat
Dec 10 05:03:28 <JesusFreke> wmealing: it depends on your definition of "real". but likely, yes.
Dec 10 05:03:30 <ml417> i think the issue i've been having is that my app is causing swiftkey to wait for input that is never sent to it
Dec 10 05:03:33 <Nilium> I think dogarrhea should change her name to doggerel.
Dec 10 05:03:57 <wmealing> the rom maker, you also helped me with bionic, about 5 years ago
Dec 10 05:03:59 <g00s_> JesusFreke once in a while AS loses connection with my genymotion vm, even when adb devices shows it. is there a way to reset the adb connection without restarting the IDE ?
Dec 10 05:04:04 <wmealing> thanks btw.. and hi
Dec 10 05:04:13 <dogarrhea> nilium why doggerel
Dec 10 05:04:13 <wmealing> maybe 4 years ago..
Dec 10 05:04:40 <Nilium> So then you can have a gimmick.
Dec 10 05:06:21 <ml417> oh yep, the app broke my phone again, restart time
Dec 10 05:07:36 <ml417> is there a place in eclipse to access adb? or should i just use the cmd?
Dec 10 05:07:55 <canvs2321> ml417: what OS you running>
Dec 10 05:07:57 <canvs2321> ?
Dec 10 05:08:00 <ml417> Windows 7
Dec 10 05:08:08 <canvs2321> use command prompt
Dec 10 05:08:25 <canvs2321> adb logcat i n a command promplt will keep a running tally of logs
Dec 10 05:08:45 <ml417> i can view the logcat with eclipse
Dec 10 05:08:55 <canvs2321> stop it if you no like it
Dec 10 05:08:55 <ml417> it's just my phone got to the point where everything was crashing
Dec 10 05:09:03 <canvs2321> you just ask how to view otherwise
Dec 10 05:09:11 <ml417> no i asked access adb
Dec 10 05:09:15 <canvs2321> crashing will be viewed in logcat
Dec 10 05:09:33 <ml417> yeah, the logcat is practically all red
Dec 10 05:10:01 <ml417> i just was being lazy about opening cmd to type adb reboot
Dec 10 05:10:10 <canvs2321> red in eclipse? you can filter in eclipse, or use command prompt and filter or see all
Dec 10 05:10:19 <ml417> red = bad
Dec 10 05:10:25 <ml417> as in stuff crashing
Dec 10 05:10:29 <canvs2321> don't type adb reboot, that'll reboot your device
Dec 10 05:10:35 <ml417> that was my intentions
Dec 10 05:10:46 <ml417> once in a while my app crashes so badly that it causes everything else to crash
Dec 10 05:10:50 <ml417> requiring a reboot
Dec 10 05:10:55 <canvs2321> doubt it
Dec 10 05:10:57 <JesusFreke> g00s_: dunno, sorry :)
Dec 10 05:11:01 <ml417> i dont
Dec 10 05:11:03 <canvs2321> i do
Dec 10 05:11:05 <ml417> my launcher even crashed
Dec 10 05:11:16 <canvs2321> you are far away from knowing development for android
Dec 10 05:11:21 <ml417> oh i know
Dec 10 05:11:38 <ml417> but when my app crashes and suddenly everything else starts crashing
Dec 10 05:11:51 <ml417> and everything is fine after a reboot
Dec 10 05:11:58 <canvs2321> so it's super late right now EST, but if your shit is crashing everything, then there are threads doing work that are doing it.
Dec 10 05:12:42 <ml417> i haven't been able to pinpoint that particular problem with my app, but it's next on my list after collision detection
Dec 10 05:12:46 <ml417> and it's only midnight here
Dec 10 05:12:53 <ml417> i'm a college student, it's not late
Dec 10 05:15:33 <dogarrhea> OOOH kollege
Dec 10 05:15:45 <canvs2321> but if class is in 6hrs or so you are screwed as you don't know the basics about debugging java apps for android.  Do what you can!
Dec 10 05:15:51 <dogarrhea> soon u will be competing for minimum wage jobs against h1bs and trying to make rent before u decide to flip burgers
Dec 10 05:16:08 <dogarrhea> and get a double major in medicine and go into debt permanently for the rest of your life
Dec 10 05:16:23 <ml417> lol
Dec 10 05:16:34 <ml417> this is for an engineering class, not a java class
Dec 10 05:16:46 <ml417> it's a combined Cpe, EE, and CS course
Dec 10 05:16:56 <dogarrhea> and then?
Dec 10 05:17:12 <ml417> the CS majors take java, CpE/EE take c++, i'm a CpE
Dec 10 05:17:32 <canvs2321> then do what you need to do! but i'm pretty sure no matter how much googling you do, it won't work. just suck it up&make shit work with the limited time you left yourself
Dec 10 05:17:39 <ml417> the CS department also babies their students so they don't have a clue about half of what it takes to create their stuff
Dec 10 05:17:43 <dogarrhea> no one cares about your knowledge of schrodinger equation/Big O/np completeness or what not
Dec 10 05:17:57 <dogarrhea> take it from someone with 5 years of industry experience out of kollege
Dec 10 05:17:57 <ml417> well yeah, the entire thing has been cut down way back to begin with lol
Dec 10 05:18:30 <canvs2321> ml417: how much time have you had to finish this project?
Dec 10 05:18:43 <ml417> dog would you be put in an android project with only knowledge of c++?
Dec 10 05:18:52 <dogarrhea> go ahead. tell your future employer "NO NO NO traveling salesman problem is np-complete. we should not try to optimize" Fed ex pays their data algorithm employees 1 million $ / year to optimize that problem
Dec 10 05:18:54 <ml417> hmm this has been like a month long thing
Dec 10 05:19:11 <ml417> but we did about 60% of the work this weekend
Dec 10 05:19:28 <Eeeeeee> hello
Dec 10 05:19:55 <dogarrhea> no one cares about c++ or java or javascript or android or objective c or c shit shit or whatever language you learn in kollege
Dec 10 05:19:56 <dogarrhea> scheme lol
Dec 10 05:20:04 <dogarrhea> they only care about "WHERES MY FUCKING WEBSITE"
Dec 10 05:20:10 <ml417> haha lol
Dec 10 05:20:26 <ml417> either way i have no idea about the details of java/android
Dec 10 05:20:28 <dogarrhea> "WHERES MY FUCKING APP"
Dec 10 05:20:35 <ml417> but i'm focusing on things part by part
Dec 10 05:20:51 <canvs2321> so had a month, but waited til this weekend. You are a child&fucked up
Dec 10 05:20:53 <dogarrhea> "BUILD SOMETHING FOR ME SO I CAN BE A BILLIONAIRE AND YOU BECOME THAT HOMELESS GUY IN THE STREET"
Dec 10 05:21:06 <Eeeeeee> client work = where's my fucking __
Dec 10 05:21:12 <ml417> no, we've been working on other parts of it before hand
Dec 10 05:21:49 <ml417> it's just we haven't started putting everything together until last week
Dec 10 05:22:03 <ml417> before that it was all proof of concept on varius parts
Dec 10 05:22:34 <dogarrhea> it's mostly "build my entire business for me and i pay you peanuts" these days. but too bad programmers have to make a living some how
Dec 10 05:22:49 <canvs2321> but all proof of concept on visuals. No actual android development involved. Good Luck
Dec 10 05:22:54 <dogarrhea> work 12 hours a day... 9 for your place of work and 3 for your own apps
Dec 10 05:23:19 <g00s_> i think it takes at least a few mos to grok android
Dec 10 05:23:21 <Eeeeeee> say you're using GPS location data as a kind of security key that unlocks something in your app... is there a way to prevent that location from being faked?
Dec 10 05:23:28 <ml417> well the visual proof of concept included a ball moving around on the screen
Dec 10 05:24:11 <ml417> it was also not my part
Dec 10 05:27:16 <dodobrain> is finish() called on an activity if the back button is pressed?
Dec 10 05:28:13 <f2prateek> yes
Dec 10 05:28:29 <dodobrain> thanks
Dec 10 05:28:30 <f2prateek> at least if you don't override onBackPressed
Dec 10 05:28:39 <dodobrain> yeah, i haven't overridden it
Dec 10 05:31:24 <dodobrain> if i launch an activity with startActivityForResult() and just press back once the new activity is visible, what is the resultCode ?
Dec 10 05:34:59 <f2prateek> I would assume RESULT_CANCELED
Dec 10 05:37:41 <dodobrain> right, i'm checking now..
Dec 10 05:37:54 <Nirab> hello guys
Dec 10 05:38:10 <Nirab> i was trying to create a custom view
Dec 10 05:39:05 <Nirab> it is a map view and i wanted to register a longpress listener
Dec 10 05:40:16 <Nirab> i extended GestureDetector.SimpleOnGestureListener
Dec 10 05:42:08 <Nirab> but when i try to register GestureDetectorCompat object eclipse highlights the object as error and i get a suggestion to change it to GestureDetector
Dec 10 05:42:14 <Nirab> why is this ?
Dec 10 05:57:10 <dodobrain> alex_PP, you still here?
Dec 10 05:59:34 <dodobrain> sequence1: Main (not logged in)-> Login (signup button press, startActivityForResult)-> Signup
Dec 10 06:00:02 <dodobrain> now next sequence is:  (back button pressed) -> Login (onResultActivity triggered).. this woks as expected
Dec 10 06:01:21 <dodobrain> but if after sequence1, this is the sequence:  (signed up successfully, setResult(RESULT_OK), startActivity(Main), finish()) -> Main (onResultActivity within Login is *not* triggered)
Dec 10 06:01:22 <dodobrain> :(
Dec 10 06:22:47 <g00s> bluesm there ?
Dec 10 06:57:08 <dodobrain> guys this is crazy
Dec 10 06:58:01 <ml417> so is what my app does have the time
Dec 10 06:58:04 <ml417> half*
Dec 10 06:58:24 <ml417> thank god eclipse catches my types otherwise i'd never be able to code at this hour
Dec 10 06:58:29 <ml417> typos*
Dec 10 07:00:21 <dodobrain> i have 3 activitie: A, B, C.   A is the launcher/main activity. A -> B immediately if user is not logged in, they can login at B or launch startActivityForResult() B->C to signup. C has 2 buttons: signup and cancel. pressing cancel brings back C->B with onActivityResult (in B) triggered. pressing signup starts C->A, but onActivityResult (in B) is not triggered
Dec 10 07:00:58 <Eeeeeee> now only if your irc client would do the same
Dec 10 07:01:47 <dodobrain> Eeeeeee, i'm not understanding your statement/sarcasm/etc. !
Dec 10 07:02:04 <Eeeeeee> talking to ml417 :P
Dec 10 07:02:11 <dodobrain> ah, ok
Dec 10 07:02:21 <ml417> i agree
Dec 10 07:02:30 <ml417> i reread that sentence and it makes almost no sense
Dec 10 07:03:34 <ml417> diagonal collision detection is a bitch x.x
Dec 10 07:03:58 <ml417> every time i think i have it, I realize it's more complex than it seems
Dec 10 07:13:30 <Eeeeeee> dodobrain maybe i don't really understand onactivityresult, but it seems logical that it wouldn't trigger B in that scenario.
Dec 10 07:17:04 <DarkSlay3r> Did i read that someone doesn't understand something?
Dec 10 07:17:34 <dodobrain> DarkSlay3r, maybe you can help me out?
Dec 10 07:17:42 <DarkSlay3r> Depends...
Dec 10 07:17:43 <dodobrain> i have 3 activitie: A, B, C.   A is the launcher/main activity. A -> B immediately if user is not logged in, they can login at B or launch startActivityForResult() B->C to signup. C has 2 buttons: signup and cancel. pressing cancel brings back C->B with onActivityResult (in B) triggered. pressing signup starts C->A, but onActivityResult (in B) is not triggered
Dec 10 07:18:29 <DarkSlay3r> so what's the problem?
Dec 10 07:19:07 <DarkSlay3r> in your onActivity result, you probably have a switch right?
Dec 10 07:19:10 <dodobrain> err.. i would like to call finish() on the onActivityResult() within B
Dec 10 07:19:50 <DarkSlay3r> Did you handle result RESULT_CANCELLED?
Dec 10 07:20:04 <dodobrain> essentially A->B->C->A  so when i do eventually switch from C->A i want B to be finish()ed
Dec 10 07:20:46 <dodobrain> darken, i am not doing anything in that callback onActivityResult() iwithin B. just Log.d("blah", "onActivityResult called");
Dec 10 07:21:08 <dodobrain> this does not get printed if the user actually managed to signup and C->A is the step that happens
Dec 10 07:21:33 <dodobrain> if the user presses the cancel button or back button, C->B happens and onActivityResult() *does* get called!
Dec 10 07:22:35 <DarkSlay3r> Then it means that C doesn't trigger the callback...
Dec 10 07:23:11 <dodobrain> basically C is a activity started by startActivityForResult(). but instead of just doing something and calling finish(). it calls finish() but also triggers a switch to another activity
Dec 10 07:24:44 <DarkSlay3r> C doesn't do what you want it to...
Dec 10 07:25:14 <DarkSlay3r> C's problem not yours
Dec 10 07:25:22 <dodobrain> DarkSlay3r, if i am understanding it correctly. calling finish() within C *should* trigger the onActivityResult() in B *regardless* of whether the activity shown next is B or A or X or Y or Z
Dec 10 07:27:11 <dodobrain> i.e. C has finished doing whatever it wanted to do. oh look, B wanted to know when C was finished, lemme invoke that callback. doesn't matter that i am now showing A
Dec 10 07:28:26 <DarkSlay3r> This isn't making any sense to me...
Dec 10 07:28:45 <dodobrain> the *other* possible reason that the callback is not triggered makes *no* sense: i.e. C hasn;t really finish()ed
Dec 10 07:29:07 <dodobrain> DarkSlay3r, i'll try to explain with batter/proper names now. this A B C business is rubbish
Dec 10 07:29:36 <DarkSlay3r> Well at least i got to practice my Alphabets...
Dec 10 07:30:07 <dodobrain> DarkSlay3r, 3 activities: Main, Login, Signup. starting the app launches Main; onCreate checks if user is logged in. If not. startActivity() for Login
Dec 10 07:33:42 <dodobrain> Main finish()es itself. Login has username/passwd fields and 2 buttons: loginbtn, signupbtn. filling in username/passwd and pressing loginbtn if successful calls finish() and startActivity() Main. if unsuccessful shows a toast. if signupbtn is pressed, startActivityForResult() Signup
Dec 10 07:35:43 <dodobrain> Signup has 2 buttons: cancelbtn, reallysignupbtn. pressing cancelbtn setResult(RESULT_CANCELLED); finish();  and now user is back on Login and the onActivityResult() is triggered . pressing  reallysignupbtn setResult(RESULT_OK); startActivity()Main; finish();    onActivityResult() in Login is not triggered
Dec 10 07:36:13 <dodobrain> I want to finish() Login within onActivityResult() once the user has successfully signed up and is on Main
Dec 10 07:36:29 <dodobrain> maybe, i'm doing this the wrong way.
Dec 10 07:36:54 <dodobrain> DarkSlay3r, how would you handle this situation. i.e. simple app with main screen, login screen and signup screen
Dec 10 07:37:40 <DarkSlay3r> Login -> Main
Dec 10 07:37:46 <DarkSlay3r> Login - Signup
Dec 10 07:37:53 <DarkSlay3r> Not main first
Dec 10 07:38:32 <dodobrain> no.. thats crap because 99% of the time one expects the user to be logged in already
Dec 10 07:38:45 <I440r> wtf is google that DUMB?  "you are using version 3.02 of make, android can only be built by version 3.01"
Dec 10 07:39:04 <DarkSlay3r> Yeah save preferences and then authenticate
Dec 10 07:39:38 <DarkSlay3r> more secure anyway
Dec 10 07:40:13 <dodobrain> umm.. "yeah" to what i said or what you were saying ?
Dec 10 07:41:11 <ml417> is there a way to make my app request a large chunk of memory? logcat has a lot of Grow heap (frag case) in it
Dec 10 07:41:24 <DarkSlay3r> Sorry dodobrain i'm just confused
Dec 10 07:41:27 <Leeds> I440r: not dumb, EVIL
Dec 10 07:41:43 <DarkSlay3r> I guess i don't have an answer for yo
Dec 10 07:41:48 <DarkSlay3r> you**
Dec 10 07:41:56 <dodobrain> :(
Dec 10 07:42:22 <I440r> leeds no. this is just pure dumb
Dec 10 07:42:29 <Leeds> NO, EVIL
Dec 10 07:42:46 <dodobrain> can i bring in a new word for it? moronic?
Dec 10 07:43:32 <Leeds> EVIL COVERS IT
Dec 10 07:43:39 <DarkSlay3r> No
Dec 10 07:43:45 <DarkSlay3r> Google is life
Dec 10 07:43:54 <DarkSlay3r> Everything Google does is perfect
Dec 10 07:44:05 <DarkSlay3r> Google said so
Dec 10 07:44:09 <Leeds> or to put it another way, IT'S A *MASSIVE* AMOUNT OF CODE, WITH A COMPLICATED BUILD SYSTEM, WHICH COULD EASILY BE BROKEN BY A MINOR CHANGE IN MAKE
Dec 10 07:44:46 <Eeeeeee> "calling finish() within C *should* trigger the onActivityResult() in B *regardless* of whether the activity shown next is B or A or X or Y or Z" --- I would think the activity would need to be B to to trigger onfinish, but this is only a baseless guess from reading docs
Dec 10 07:45:25 <DarkSlay3r> Eeeeeee: What bothers me is onActivityResult is not called
Dec 10 07:45:27 <dodobrain> not onfinish.. onActivityResult()
Dec 10 07:46:02 <DarkSlay3r> You need to return be able to return at least activityok and activitycancel
Dec 10 07:46:12 <dodobrain> starting an activity with startActivityForResult() is really just setting up a callback for when the newly started activity finish()es iitself
Dec 10 07:46:23 <dodobrain> doesn;t matter what else the newly started activity does!
Dec 10 07:46:24 <Eeeeeee> ah
Dec 10 07:46:34 <Eeeeeee> like I said, aseless
Dec 10 07:46:38 <Eeeeeee> baseless
Dec 10 07:46:49 <DarkSlay3r> Run a lifecycle test
Dec 10 07:47:01 <DarkSlay3r> then we'll know for sure
Dec 10 07:47:06 <g00s> make 3.02? is this gmake ?
Dec 10 07:47:29 <lasserix> Is it possible for adb to trigger a simulated physical button press?
Dec 10 07:50:43 <g00s> GNU Make 3.81 -- 3.82, which you can download from
Dec 10 07:50:51 <g00s> ugh, i dont know what you guys are talking about
Dec 10 07:52:23 <karab44> hello
Dec 10 07:58:19 <ml417> can someone walk me through the steps of what happens when a new activity is called? I'm having problems with my app freezing on the onCreate() method of the activity that is called right after a buttom press
Dec 10 08:00:57 <g00s> ml417 grab a book, read the user guide ....
Dec 10 08:01:21 <g00s> when is  your part of the project due ?
Dec 10 08:01:23 <ml417> I'm trying to figure out what's going wrong with my code
Dec 10 08:01:33 <ml417> we're presenting Tomorrow evening
Dec 10 08:01:46 <g00s> and you dont know java or android :|
Dec 10 08:01:47 <ml417> i'm doing clean up on the code
Dec 10 08:01:54 <ml417> pretty much
Dec 10 08:01:57 <ml417> i know c++
Dec 10 08:01:57 <g00s> oh, so its done ?
Dec 10 08:02:01 <ml417> sorta
Dec 10 08:02:12 <ml417> the end popup still crashes the app
Dec 10 08:02:19 <ml417> and isn't even in the code i'm using right now
Dec 10 08:02:47 <ml417> and it freezes most times i try opening the main game activity
Dec 10 08:03:08 <ml417> and collision detection still isn't perfect, but i'm pretty close on that
Dec 10 08:06:33 <ml417> wait i think i narrowed down the line that is causing the issue
Dec 10 08:06:37 <ml417> or at least the current one
Dec 10 08:06:47 <ml417> mSensorManager = (SensorManager)getSystemService(SENSOR_SERVICE);
Dec 10 08:26:03 <ml417> what's the cleanest way to get the screen size?
Dec 10 08:26:20 <ml417> pixles wise
Dec 10 08:27:57 <Sirolf> ml417 : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1016896/how-to-get-screen-dimensions
Dec 10 08:28:59 <ml417> thanks
Dec 10 08:29:40 <ml417> i'm trying to figure out why my app freezes on an onCreate() method and I can't figure out why
Dec 10 08:29:49 <ml417> what's causing it*
Dec 10 08:29:55 <ml417> so i'm going line by line
Dec 10 08:31:43 <Looney> 5M+ downloads https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.asbit.pvstar  :-o
Dec 10 08:31:59 <g00s> i wonder if the next version of AS will be based on 13 final
Dec 10 08:32:07 <g00s> build 133.33 something
Dec 10 08:32:07 <Looney> and I thought that YouTube has its own app
Dec 10 08:50:21 <dodobrain> what is the default/good button/menu layout to use if the app has multiple screens?
Dec 10 08:50:49 <xor42> join #Skate2Create
Dec 10 08:52:33 <Sirolf> dodobrain .. multiple screens?
Dec 10 08:52:43 <dodobrain> multiple activities
Dec 10 08:52:58 <dodobrain> my apologies.. multiple screens can mean something else
Dec 10 08:53:05 <dodobrain> and i assume that is possible too with android
Dec 10 08:53:18 <Sirolf> anything is possible ;)
Dec 10 08:53:46 <Sirolf> but multiple activities can be done in many ways
Dec 10 08:54:32 <dodobrain> i was thinking maybe a bottom buttonbar that has buttons 'home', 'feedback', 'Pizza', etc.
Dec 10 08:54:56 <g00s> dodobrain consider the design guidelines for navigation
Dec 10 08:55:04 <Sirolf> you could also use the actionbar
Dec 10 08:55:12 <dodobrain> g00s, yes.. i want some good guidelines for proper native apps
Dec 10 08:55:37 <Sirolf> google has fine tutorials and guidelines on their site
Dec 10 08:55:54 <dodobrain> i'm trying to replicate a design from an ios app, but i think its pretty rubish and it would like out of place with the non-android weirdness
Dec 10 08:56:02 <Sirolf> http://developer.android.com/design/index.html
Dec 10 08:56:38 <Sirolf> get started there ...
Dec 10 08:58:37 <ml417> I think my thread is trying to call onDraw after i press the back button and it causes the app to crash
Dec 10 08:58:51 <ml417> any clue where should i start looking to prevent this?
Dec 10 09:00:24 <dodobrain> ml417, why not kill your thread in onBackPressed() ?
Dec 10 09:00:35 <ml417> okay, so i need to override that?
Dec 10 09:00:44 <dodobrain> in your activity, yes
Dec 10 09:00:48 <ml417> thanks
Dec 10 09:00:55 <Zharf> better to do it in onPause, I think
Dec 10 09:01:09 <ml417> I have an onPause
Dec 10 09:01:17 <ml417> hmm question
Dec 10 09:01:20 <ml417> how do i kill a thread?
Dec 10 09:01:42 <dodobrain> Zharf, i assume back gets him out of the activity and he really wants to kill the thread , i.e. simulation is gone
Dec 10 09:01:48 <ml417> my onPause method just calls super.onPause();
Dec 10 09:01:55 <dodobrain> while i assume his pause is something like getting back to the home screen
Dec 10 09:02:10 <dodobrain> i.e. the simulation is running in bg
Dec 10 09:02:35 <Zharf> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7887668
Dec 10 09:02:40 <dodobrain> or maybe the max he will do is pause the simulation itself, i.e. when resumed the objects will continue from their current positions with their current velocities
Dec 10 09:02:50 <dodobrain> i doubt he really want to kill the thread in onpause
Dec 10 09:02:57 <ml417> i want to kill it
Dec 10 09:03:06 <dodobrain> if you press the home button?
Dec 10 09:03:07 <Zharf> you'll need to make sure your thread handles interrupted state though, also I often have some sort of stop() method in my threads that set the running state to stopped
Dec 10 09:03:12 <ml417> yeah
Dec 10 09:03:23 <dodobrain> don;t you want to resume your animation if user just starts your activity again?
Dec 10 09:03:42 <ml417> nope
Dec 10 09:03:52 <ml417> i want to go back to the main screen and hit start again
Dec 10 09:03:54 <dodobrain> ok, up to you.. kill it!
Dec 10 09:04:04 <ml417> (main screen only has the logo and a start button)
Dec 10 09:04:18 <ml417> and the logo is actually part of the background
Dec 10 09:04:23 <ml417> don't ask me why
Dec 10 09:04:26 <Zharf> threads are tricky in that if they aren't written with care, shutting them down can be bothersome
Dec 10 09:04:42 <dodobrain> you're not really 'pausing' your application if you are killing your thread and removing all state about your particles
Dec 10 09:04:48 <dodobrain> anyway, your app, your rules
Dec 10 09:04:50 <ml417> well right now, to not run out of memory i need to manually clear my app before every time i run it
Dec 10 09:07:27 <ml417> okay, so i added your code into the thread class
Dec 10 09:08:40 <ml417> okay i think i have a problem
Dec 10 09:08:58 <ml417> the instance of the thread class is created inside the surfaceview class
Dec 10 09:09:09 <ml417> how do i call it from onPause?
Dec 10 09:13:25 <ech0s7> Hi all!
Dec 10 09:14:03 <ech0s7> i would go in debug into android framework sources... i have compiled android source and now i'm tring to setup android framework sources into eclipse
Dec 10 09:14:30 <ech0s7> i'm following this guide: http://source.android.com/source/using-eclipse.html#eclipse-is-not-working-correctly-what-should-i-do
Dec 10 09:16:04 <ech0s7> but in Eclipse when i choose "File > New > Java Project"
Dec 10 09:16:17 <ech0s7> there isn't "Create project from existing source"
Dec 10 09:16:19 <ech0s7> why ?
Dec 10 09:16:47 <ml417> try import
Dec 10 09:17:03 <mbor> is there a max URL length for when using loadUrl in a webview? I'm trying to send a JSON string to the JavaScript in the webview but it seems to never go through as the JSON as rather large
Dec 10 09:17:08 <lasserix> Anyone know how to get ints from a database column that are larger than zome value?
Dec 10 09:17:42 <ech0s7> ml417: but i official guide
Dec 10 09:17:43 <ech0s7> http://source.android.com/source/using-eclipse.html#increase-eclipses-memory-settings
Dec 10 09:17:51 <ech0s7> it say File > New > Java Project
Dec 10 09:18:38 <ml417> okay, i'm a novice, so if something says do it one way, you probably shouldn't listen to me
Dec 10 09:19:54 <nortwolf> ech0s7: try "Import" ;)
Dec 10 09:20:33 <nortwolf> ech0s7: right-click on the sidebar with your projects
Dec 10 09:23:54 <nortwolf> lasserix: SQL? "where `column_name` > 42"
Dec 10 09:28:32 <ech0s7> selecting "Import", eclipse start search for projects in all subfolders1
Dec 10 09:29:03 <brickhead> hey Guys
Dec 10 09:29:30 <brickhead> It seems with v18 ActionBar is part of support package, Is there any reason not to move away from ABS
Dec 10 09:29:32 <ml417> ZHarf: I'm still confused about how to properly kill a thread
Dec 10 09:30:10 <Zharf> ml417, does your run() handle interrupted states and does it have some sort of loop that can be exited somehow
Dec 10 09:30:25 <ml417> loop yes, interrupted states i'm not sure
Dec 10 09:30:45 <ml417> it has a typical while (mRun) loop
Dec 10 09:30:56 <ml417> with setRunning(bool)
Dec 10 09:31:16 <Zharf> ew, mCrap :p
Dec 10 09:31:18 <Zharf> aanyway
Dec 10 09:31:32 <Zharf> ml417, make that while (running && !Thread.interrupted())
Dec 10 09:32:22 <Zharf> then when you want to shut it down, call thread.setRunning(false) and the shutdownThread(thread) method that I pasted
Dec 10 09:32:45 <ml417> do i type this.interrupt()?
Dec 10 09:32:53 <Zharf> no
Dec 10 09:33:13 <ml417> it's complaining about not being able to make a non-staic reference static
Dec 10 09:33:23 <ml417> wait
Dec 10 09:33:24 <ml417> reverse that
Dec 10 09:33:45 <ml417> cannot make static reference to non-staic method
Dec 10 09:35:16 <ml417> Zharf: ?
Dec 10 09:35:26 <Zharf> read what I said again
Dec 10 09:35:37 <ml417> x.x
Dec 10 09:35:39 <ml417> got it
Dec 10 09:35:45 <ml417> i reread it 3 times before you said that
Dec 10 09:35:46 <Mavrik> brickhead, depends if you need some additional features ABS offers
Dec 10 09:35:56 <Mavrik> brickhead, you should be moving away from 2.3 anyway ;)
Dec 10 09:36:41 <ml417> Zharf, now what?
Dec 10 09:37:50 <Zharf> well it should shut down if you called those two methods
Dec 10 09:38:12 <ml417> call what where?
Dec 10 09:38:17 <Zharf> 11:32 < Zharf> then when you want to shut it down, call thread.setRunning(false) and the  shutdownThread(thread) method that I pasted
Dec 10 09:38:32 <Zharf> where thread is the thread instance you want to shutdown
Dec 10 09:38:44 <ml417> totally lost that between the join and quit in there
Dec 10 09:38:45 <ml417> sorry
Dec 10 09:38:46 <ml417> it's late
Dec 10 09:40:05 <g00s> late has nothing to do with it; if you don't know android, java, and the homework is due tomorrow, its /procrastinating/ :)
Dec 10 09:40:33 <Zharf> ;)
Dec 10 09:40:43 <ml417> blame my entire team lol
Dec 10 09:40:48 <ml417> i can't control 4 other people
Dec 10 09:41:03 <ml417> i've been contributing to this project every week
Dec 10 09:41:08 <ml417> minus thanksgiving break
Dec 10 09:52:42 <Zgary> hi. I try to update Wallpaper Preferences from code. I do in one of my methods: http://pastebin.com/D4upP4Ny
Dec 10 09:52:57 <Zgary> it does not not work
Dec 10 09:56:59 <brickhead> Mavrik, negative. I've about 30% users still on 2.3
Dec 10 09:57:34 <Mavrik> enabler.
Dec 10 09:58:17 <brickhead> Mavrik,  1btw what other features you have in mind? I might have some styles and themes replying on it I guess
Dec 10 09:58:42 <FrancescoV> Hi, what's the best way to imort a library jar file. copy in the libs folder or add external jar in properties?
Dec 10 09:59:16 <Mavrik> brickhead, IIRC there are some things AppCompat won't support on 2.3... there were some problems with transparency, actionviews and some themes missing
Dec 10 09:59:29 <Mavrik> if you already use ABS then there's really not much reason to switch
Dec 10 09:59:37 <Mavrik> FrancescoV, by using Gradle or Maven really.
Dec 10 10:00:50 <brickhead> Mavrik, hmm.. apart from the extra library size, I can't think of any much advantage
Dec 10 10:03:30 <FrancescoV> Hmm, I have this problem, I can import a class from a library but I've got a java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError error
Dec 10 10:04:41 <dodobrain> FrancescoV, on runtime? then its not in classpath.. i.e. you need to export the lib as well
Dec 10 10:05:00 <FrancescoV> dodobrain: yes on runtime
Dec 10 10:05:07 <ml417> Zharf, I moved my thread outside of my surfaceview class, but now it doesn't create a canvas in run() so it gets a pull pointer on the first onDraw called
Dec 10 10:05:40 <dodobrain> if you are using eclipse, you need to *export* the lib.. check it in build path for the project
Dec 10 10:05:49 <ohcibi> i'll ask again if anybody knows how to access the settings for the advertising ID? I just can't find it on the device
Dec 10 10:06:24 <Mavrik> ohcibi, it's the gray Google icon called "Google Settings"
Dec 10 10:07:23 <dodobrain> does anyone know the solution to my problem? the 3 activitites and onActivityResult() not being triggered problem
Dec 10 10:07:23 <ohcibi> Mavrik: wow thanks... no i've found it, i dont know why i've overseen it.. 8)
Dec 10 10:11:12 <CallumTaylor> has anyone here had any issues with parcelable data and "FAILED BINDER TRANSACTION" errors?
Dec 10 10:11:37 <CallumTaylor> getting the error when leaving my activity to go to another one, but when I orientate, it doesn't happen
Dec 10 10:11:48 <CallumTaylor> even though I'm saving the content in saveInstanceState
Dec 10 10:20:54 <lasserix> Anyone know how to structure the selection clause of a contentresolver such that I can select where column name has a value greater than 0?
Dec 10 10:22:38 <lasserix> *using the selection args arg
Dec 10 10:22:41 <lasserix> (argggghhh!)
Dec 10 10:22:42 <lasserix> ;p
Dec 10 10:30:36 <g00s> in AS i have a logcat filter by package name, but the logs are still spammed by OpenGLRenderer
Dec 10 10:30:58 <g00s> is there a way to remove these ?
Dec 10 10:31:48 <lasserix> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7889888/how-to-filter-out-a-tagname-in-eclipse-logcat-viewer
Dec 10 10:32:23 <g00s> As, not eclipse :)
Dec 10 10:32:41 <ml417> how difficult is it to create a wakelock?
Dec 10 10:34:20 <dodobrain> is relativelayout the one to use as the main container within an activity ?
Dec 10 10:34:48 <dodobrain> i see eclipse creates a relative layout by default if i create a new activity
Dec 10 10:36:28 <g00s> cool
Dec 10 10:36:29 <g00s> tag:^(?!(WifiMulticast|WifiHW|MtpService|PushClient))
Dec 10 10:38:04 <lasserix> yeah
Dec 10 10:38:44 <lasserix> oh sorry not eclipse but same principle :)
Dec 10 10:38:48 <ohcibi> is it possible to generate R's in different packages?
Dec 10 10:39:15 <ohcibi> I want to generate an R in a different package then the default for some resources
Dec 10 10:39:26 <ohcibi> or do I have to create a libraryproject for this?
Dec 10 10:39:35 <CallumTaylor> userLandscape API level 18  (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Dec 10 10:41:33 <dodobrain> what the fish guys..
Dec 10 10:41:54 <dodobrain> why the heck doesn't android provide a good stock set of icons?
Dec 10 10:42:27 <dodobrain> there isn't a food/restaurant/spoon/fork icon :(
Dec 10 10:42:37 <ml417> there is a library of icons somewhere?
Dec 10 10:42:46 <dodobrain> is there some great free resource you guys know of that has good icon coverage?
Dec 10 10:42:48 <ml417> I've been using custom made the entire time
Dec 10 10:43:05 <dodobrain> yeah the default iconset is available
Dec 10 10:43:10 <dodobrain> but it is very limited
Dec 10 10:45:13 <lasserix> the native content providers of android os don't do DISTINCT selection ?
Dec 10 10:46:47 <ohcibi> so when retreiving the users advertising ID. I'd have to check if isLimitAdTrackingEnabled returns true, and if not I must assure that the ID is not used to create targeted advertising?
Dec 10 10:47:14 <ohcibi> (but I could create targeted advertising anyway by just using the ID anyways?)
Dec 10 10:48:14 <CallumTaylor> ml417: http://developer.android.com/design/downloads/index.html
Dec 10 10:49:32 <Mavrik> ohcibi, I'm not sure what you're asking?
Dec 10 10:49:53 <ml417> I was trying to figure out how to add the permission for it, and stumbled upon a single line that keeps the screen on without a wakelock
Dec 10 10:50:03 <ml417> thank you though CallumTaylor
Dec 10 10:50:47 <ohcibi> Mavrik: I guess It is answered already in the docs... it was just a bit confusing to me that the decision wether the user can receive targeted advertising (i.e. based on some profile which is connected to his or here ad ID) or not must be done by the developer with resepect to some boolean..
Dec 10 10:51:00 <ml417> There is one last thing that still makes no sense to me, and that is in the way the ball is being displayed, no one has been able to answer this one so far
Dec 10 10:51:21 <ml417> i turned off the background so i can see the ball's movement, and it looks like every redraw of the ball is moving
Dec 10 10:52:26 <dodobrain> CallumTaylor, i don't see a restaurant/food icon there (
Dec 10 10:52:28 <dodobrain> :(
Dec 10 10:52:41 <CallumTaylor> it won't have every icon, its main action icons
Dec 10 10:52:50 <Mavrik> ohcibi, I don't see what's confusing
Dec 10 10:53:01 <Mavrik> user said "don't track me" and you get that passed
Dec 10 10:53:02 <CallumTaylor> helveticons is a good place for similar style icons
Dec 10 10:53:47 <dodobrain> what is this helveticons ?
Dec 10 10:54:14 <CallumTaylor> lmgtfy.com/?q=helveticons
Dec 10 10:54:16 <CallumTaylor> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=helveticons
Dec 10 10:54:18 <ohcibi> Mavrik: right, I somehow had expected something more "safe" because this can be overseen even by a foolish programmer... but on the other hand I wouldn't know how to implement it "more safe", so yes the boolean is the way to go...
Dec 10 10:56:01 <Zharf> ml417, provide the canvas for it through some other means and just idle in the thread until it's ready..
Dec 10 10:56:44 <ml417> no, i mean it appears as if every instance of the ball is moving with new ones created where the ball goes
Dec 10 10:57:01 <ml417> instead of creating a bunch of stationary balls where it goes
Dec 10 10:58:51 <dodobrain> CallumTaylor, i still don't see a restaurant/food/spoon/fork icon there in helveticons..
Dec 10 10:59:02 <dodobrain> i assume you meant this one? http://mmminimal.com/helveticons/
Dec 10 10:59:42 <CallumTaylor> http://hlvticons.ch/
Dec 10 10:59:46 <CallumTaylor> they have different packages
Dec 10 11:00:17 <CallumTaylor> you may just have to create your own icon
Dec 10 11:03:06 <ml417> the best way i can think of describing what i'm getting is a river of bitmaps, where it looks like all of them are flowing
Dec 10 11:12:15 <ohcibi> is R's package _always_ tied to the root package of the app or can I change the package R lives in?
Dec 10 11:23:14 <macTAR_> Hi guys i got problems with the picture quality of my custom camera application
Dec 10 11:23:35 <macTAR_> here is the full explication : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20420682/android-camera-parameters-setjpegquallity-deprecated-custom-camera-application
Dec 10 11:23:52 <macTAR_> my camera dont want to set jpeg quality :(
Dec 10 11:36:37 <zzxx> hello, I am currenlty trying to import android.support.v4.app.Fragment, but developer studio cannot resolve the support package. other imports seem to work fine (android.os.*, android.Bundle.*, etc) but I am not certain why support is not showing up.
Dec 10 11:36:55 <zzxx> where can i start looking to make sure it is properly discoverable?
Dec 10 11:44:50 <zzxx> further to my question - I have just checked in the SDK manager, and it is showing the support library as installed (at revision 19), so it is not that
Dec 10 11:44:51 <Baluse> helllo
Dec 10 11:45:03 <zzxx> hello
Dec 10 11:46:44 <CallumTaylor> zzxx you need to add the jar into your libs folder, or to your gradle build script
Dec 10 11:46:53 <Baluse> If I create a method in a Class   like startDoingSlowShit()  that could take 5-10 secs   then if I call this using async task
Dec 10 11:47:07 <Baluse> how can i get progress within it ?
Dec 10 11:52:30 <zzxx> CallumTaylor: Thanks! where can i find, or what can i search for to find more info on how to add it to my build.gradle?
Dec 10 11:53:34 <CallumTaylor> compile 'com.android.support:support-v4:19.0.0' I believe
Dec 10 11:53:41 <CallumTaylor> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16746558/android-gradle-build-and-the-support-library
Dec 10 11:54:35 <zzxx> CallumTaylor: great. I'll read that
Dec 10 11:56:53 <OX1D> Hi guys ! i'm trying to implement SQLCipher in the AOSP's ContactsProvider by changing the required package imports to those of SQLCipher and by editing the Android.mk accordingly. However, when i try to mm in order to rebuild i get a lot of unknown symbols errors, which refer to the new SQLCIpher calls in the code. Is something wrong in my work flow ?
Dec 10 12:01:16 <dillonko> h all
Dec 10 12:01:21 <dillonko> hi all
Dec 10 12:03:43 <dillonko> is there a lite weight version of the android SDK. I have a 4 year old netbook and no desktop for now.
Dec 10 12:07:45 <ogamita> I'm trying to compile the LocationProvider example.   I get the infamous NoClassDefFoundError on the SendMockLocationService class.  I've checked that the class is in the classes.dex in the apk.  How comes it can't be found?
Dec 10 12:08:15 <zzxx> dillonko: do you mean IDE?
Dec 10 12:08:41 <OX1D> Guys, can android.mk be used to compile android apps which don't contain jni code ?
Dec 10 12:09:08 <ml417> oh look the sun is rising
Dec 10 12:11:08 <ogamita> ml417: happy programmer!  Time to go to sleep,  Good night!
Dec 10 12:11:16 <lemonxah> after months of hard work public beta is out .. then we get this one guy that rates us a 1 star .. but his comment is "its a great app" lol how does that work?
Dec 10 12:11:37 <ml417> not done yet
Dec 10 12:11:45 <ml417> ball still going through corners
Dec 10 12:12:01 <Eeeeeee> when programming for android, how much coffee is considered too much coffee?
Dec 10 12:12:07 <ml417> i might go to class in 2 hours though
Dec 10 12:12:10 <CallumTaylor> there is never enough coffee
Dec 10 12:12:14 <Eeeeeee> lol
Dec 10 12:12:24 <qurk> Eeeeeee, how many pots have you already had today
Dec 10 12:12:27 <ml417> Eeeeeee i survived the night on mountain dew
Dec 10 12:12:40 <CallumTaylor> i have a direct IV drip to my blood stream with pure concentrated caffeine
Dec 10 12:13:17 <Eeeeeee> actually this is first pot, transitioning from soda
Dec 10 12:13:53 <ml417> oh look, i completely broke it
Dec 10 12:14:00 <ml417> well almost
Dec 10 12:14:05 <CallumTaylor> git reset ALL the code
Dec 10 12:14:09 <ml417> once i go into a wall i cant leave it until i reach another corner
Dec 10 12:14:57 <zzxx> lemonxah: what is your app?
Dec 10 12:15:10 <lemonxah> social network :)
Dec 10 12:15:13 <CallumTaylor> lemonxah: i fucking hate reviews like that
Dec 10 12:15:17 <lemonxah> yaeh me too
Dec 10 12:15:21 <CallumTaylor> i wish you could flag those types of reviews
Dec 10 12:15:36 <lemonxah> yes indeed
Dec 10 12:16:01 <CallumTaylor> but it's all worth it when you get reviews like this http://s.scruffyfox.me/fnja21s.png
Dec 10 12:16:59 <CallumTaylor> you got a link to your app?
Dec 10 12:17:29 <lemonxah> sure am i allowed to post it here?
Dec 10 12:17:41 <CallumTaylor> sure
Dec 10 12:17:44 <lemonxah> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxit
Dec 10 12:17:49 <CallumTaylor> as long as you're not spamming it with no context
Dec 10 12:17:59 <lemonxah> its a redesign of https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxit.android
Dec 10 12:18:15 <CallumTaylor> wow
Dec 10 12:18:17 <lemonxah> that old one was done before i got here at the company
Dec 10 12:18:17 <CallumTaylor> much improvement
Dec 10 12:18:25 <CallumTaylor> looks really nice
Dec 10 12:18:28 <lemonxah> then when i got here i moaned at how bad it was
Dec 10 12:18:35 <lemonxah> so i got to redo it
Dec 10 12:18:41 <CallumTaylor> grats
Dec 10 12:19:01 <Eeeeeee> looks great
Dec 10 12:19:08 <lemonxah> thnx Eeeeeee :P
Dec 10 12:19:09 <CallumTaylor> i love the blurred background of the chat
Dec 10 12:19:14 <CallumTaylor> with the right picture, looks sick
Dec 10 12:19:15 <lemonxah> its a backdrop
Dec 10 12:19:22 <CallumTaylor> yeah
Dec 10 12:19:25 <lemonxah> so its shared for everyone in the chat
Dec 10 12:19:35 <lemonxah> shared background type thing
Dec 10 12:19:40 <CallumTaylor> that's the issue with free apps, any idiot can rate it badly
Dec 10 12:19:46 <lemonxah> yeah
Dec 10 12:19:51 <CallumTaylor> and if you have competition, they do
Dec 10 12:19:51 <lemonxah> i think its pretty decent
Dec 10 12:19:54 <lemonxah> but i am biased
Dec 10 12:20:08 <CallumTaylor> it's defiantly an improvement
Dec 10 12:20:12 <lemonxah> our old client has 960,000 installs
Dec 10 12:20:33 <CallumTaylor> i see its a fresh app rather than an update what was the reasoning behind that?
Dec 10 12:20:38 <lemonxah> and as soon as this one comes out of beta and replaces the old one it will be more than a million
Dec 10 12:20:50 <CallumTaylor> ah ok
Dec 10 12:20:53 <lemonxah> well the old app was just done so badly
Dec 10 12:20:59 <CallumTaylor> not taking advantage of the google play beta functionality?
Dec 10 12:21:06 <lemonxah> and we are going to run a public beta and a public released version side by side
Dec 10 12:21:11 <lemonxah> we are
Dec 10 12:21:17 <lemonxah> the beta one is .. alpha and beta
Dec 10 12:21:35 <lemonxah> and the benefit of having it 2 separate apps
Dec 10 12:21:40 <lemonxah> is that you can run then both
Dec 10 12:21:42 <lemonxah> side by side
Dec 10 12:21:52 <CallumTaylor> mm but bad for users who may get confused
Dec 10 12:21:53 <lemonxah> have the production one and the beta one at the same time
Dec 10 12:22:06 <lemonxah> yeah :) but the beta is just for the advanced users
Dec 10 12:22:16 <CallumTaylor> i know reddit sync does the same
Dec 10 12:22:27 <Eeeeeee> btw most users are blind to words beta
Dec 10 12:22:28 <lemonxah> and google chrome for android
Dec 10 12:22:30 <CallumTaylor> they have 4 versions, a standard, pro, classic (before the last UI update) and a dev
Dec 10 12:23:02 <lemonxah> yeah
Dec 10 12:23:27 <lemonxah> and also it was a strategy to catch all the bad reviews in one BETA
Dec 10 12:23:47 <lemonxah> and then have a great polished app without the stupid ratings cause ofa  silly bug
Dec 10 12:23:58 <CallumTaylor> fair enough
Dec 10 12:24:07 <lemonxah> it might be a bad idea but it wasnt mine :)
Dec 10 12:24:14 <CallumTaylor> but with that many users i wouldn't have
Dec 10 12:24:26 <CallumTaylor> if you upload a brand new app, you've just lost probably half of your install base
Dec 10 12:24:28 <lemonxah> try tell that to men in suits that only see money
Dec 10 12:24:35 <CallumTaylor> yeah that sucks
Dec 10 12:24:36 <lemonxah> oh no no
Dec 10 12:24:41 <lemonxah> once its out of beta
Dec 10 12:24:47 <lemonxah> the old one gets the update
Dec 10 12:25:26 <lemonxah> so we dont loose that install base
Dec 10 12:25:38 <lemonxah> they are just waiting for the new one to be stable if you know what i mean
Dec 10 12:25:58 <lemonxah> anyway
Dec 10 12:26:05 <lemonxah> but you like the look of the new app?
Dec 10 12:26:19 <nortwolf> is this quote talking about the media.AudioRecord-class or what? "Android phones come with a built in Sound Recorder application hidden in the system (no user interface)." as seen on https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pete.recorder
Dec 10 12:26:24 <CallumTaylor> yeah it looks great
Dec 10 12:27:26 <lemonxah> cool
Dec 10 12:27:30 <lemonxah> thnx
Dec 10 12:38:02 <lemonxah> got 1901 installs in about 6 hours
Dec 10 12:38:20 <lemonxah> internal counters on our servers count how many clients that are connecting is using that beta
Dec 10 12:38:46 <lemonxah> its a bit slow heh but its cause its the beta and not the release .. oh well now the hard work starts
Dec 10 12:38:51 <lemonxah> invation :)
Dec 10 12:45:15 <ml417> whelp, my alarm just went off, time to wake up
Dec 10 13:02:39 <Plouj> Where can I find a renderscript tutorial that would work with the latest RS reviision?
Dec 10 13:09:06 <dodobrain> right, i've got a signup activity.. it has EditText entries for username/password/email addr/etc. and a signup button
Dec 10 13:09:23 <dodobrain> the problem is that the keyboard partially covers up the signup button!
Dec 10 13:10:39 <dodobrain> all the text entry fields and the button are enclosed within a linearlayout which is within a relativelayout that encompasses the entire screen
Dec 10 13:11:19 <Eeeeeee> speaking from a user perspective this happens in almost every app
Dec 10 13:11:50 <lemonxah> :/
Dec 10 13:11:59 <lemonxah> why doesn't my notification turn on the notification light?
Dec 10 13:12:02 <dodobrain> eeww.. thats rubbish
Dec 10 13:12:12 <lemonxah> i ahve the .setPriority(Notification.PRIORITY_MAX)
Dec 10 13:12:21 <dodobrain> can i avoid this happening if i put everything within a scrollview or something?
Dec 10 13:12:30 <Eeeeeee> doesn't bother me, that's what the back button is for
Dec 10 13:13:05 <dodobrain> Eeeeeee, but i;ve seen in some apps that the entire top part can scrolled upwards a little bit
Dec 10 13:13:17 <dodobrain> is that the scrollview in action or something like that?
Dec 10 13:13:28 <Eeeeeee> i can only speak from the user perspective sorry
Dec 10 13:14:51 <dodobrain> ummm.. this looks interesting: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/manifest/activity-element.html#wsoft
Dec 10 13:15:22 <Eeeeeee> i have seen what you're talking about, but i don't like when apps do that to be honest
Dec 10 13:17:39 <Baluse> Hello guys. I want to store some json responses in order to have offline working ability. I dont need sql database because i do very simple operations and these objects are read only. I could implement serializable and store as objects but seems that it might not worth it .  How can i do this ? I use retrofit
Dec 10 13:19:56 <ech0s7> i would debug c/c++ code of system_process, it's possible ?
Dec 10 13:23:46 <ogamita> Baluse: you can just store the JSON strings into a file.  Or into a TEXT column of a database.
Dec 10 14:10:37 <jonc> Anyone ever get a stackoverflow when using GSON to serialize something that extends Observable?
Dec 10 14:33:43 <ilmenite> Let's assume an ImageView, which when added to my layout, with no scaling(the scale is now 1). If I call getX(), it returns the correct position. However, if I now call setScaleX() with 2, and then call getX(), I get a totally different value. If i divide this value by the scale factor(2), it still doesn't give me the actual position. How do I get the actual position? Why is getX() returning absurdly large values which keep growing when the ImageVi
Dec 10 14:33:43 <ilmenite> ew is scaled?
Dec 10 14:37:43 <helo> ilmenite: do you do a setScaleX(1) before the setScaleX(2) to ensure there isn't already some scaling?
Dec 10 14:38:29 <ilmenite> not at all, but I know that it's 1, because i can see it in the debugger
Dec 10 14:38:34 <Sirolf> I would like to add numerous TextViews dynamicly to some container layout/view and make a TextView automaticly position on the next row when a given length is reached of the combined textviews already on that row...
Dec 10 14:38:48 <Sirolf> anyone any idea how to accomplish that?
Dec 10 14:39:39 <Sirolf> I guess what I mean is like the Word Wrap function in standard windows Notepad
Dec 10 14:40:42 <ilmenite> Sirolf, do you want to create a new textview after every n characters?
Dec 10 14:41:02 <Sirolf> right now I just add TextViews to a horizontal LinearLayout ... but obviously it doesnt go to next row when linearlayout width is filled
Dec 10 14:41:45 <Sirolf> ilmenite, no I just add new textviews ...
Dec 10 14:42:17 <ilmenite> wrap the linear layout inside a scrollview?
Dec 10 14:42:41 <Sirolf> I guess I would like some kind of Table form ...
Dec 10 14:43:16 <Sirolf> where the amount of columns depends on the width of the combined content
Dec 10 14:43:28 <Sirolf> so it fits horizontally
Dec 10 14:43:36 <Sirolf> :) know what I mean ilmenite?
Dec 10 14:44:52 <ilmenite> Sirolf, some graphics would be good. I really can't understand you
Dec 10 14:45:46 <Sirolf> its like this
Dec 10 14:45:50 <jonc> He wants essentially a wrapping layout
Dec 10 14:45:55 <Sirolf> yeah
Dec 10 14:46:03 <jonc> if he adds too many things horizontally wrap to the next line
Dec 10 14:46:10 <Sirolf> exactly
Dec 10 14:46:16 <jonc> so almost like wrapping text to the next line, but wrapping views to the next line
Dec 10 14:46:32 <Sirolf> is there some fancy layout for that ?
Dec 10 14:47:02 <Sirolf> or what would be your approach jonc ?
Dec 10 14:47:55 <jonc> I have no clue really, I may just do it in code, anytime text changes or another view is added get the width of each view starting from the left, and start breaking them to another line
Dec 10 14:48:34 <jonc> to make it work with a horizontal linearlayout you may want to have a parent vertical linearlayout and for each line add a new horizontal linear layout
Dec 10 14:48:40 <Sirolf> maybe a gridview with custom baseadapter to add stuff the way I like?
Dec 10 14:48:54 <Sirolf> that might work too
Dec 10 14:48:56 <Sirolf> hmm
Dec 10 14:50:06 <Sirolf> I thought maybe there was some nice standard wrapper widget for this
Dec 10 14:51:57 <DOSP> Hi guys, Can someone give me advise, what to use to stream while recording a video to server ? maybe over ftp ?
Dec 10 14:52:06 <jonc> It seems that things were designed to only really work in 1 direction dynamically
Dec 10 14:52:54 <jonc> DOSP, that depends, ftp would require that the connection not be interrupted basically (can get around this), with mobile not the nicest thing
Dec 10 14:53:41 <DOSP> jonc okay if we ignore ftp, what is the best to use ?
Dec 10 14:53:52 <jonc> a TCP connection with a server that will send out a session token for a particular upload would allow you to reestablish any connections
Dec 10 14:54:23 <jonc> and then communicate how far into the upload you were before the connection was terminated
Dec 10 14:54:23 <theblang_> any developers that have released an app that supports pre API level 11, do you maintain two versions of the app or limit yourself to what is included in the support libraries?
Dec 10 14:55:30 <Sirolf> theblang_ half lititting yourself, half checking apilvl dynamicly
Dec 10 14:55:37 <jonc> then server side every day you could remove any non-complete video transfer files, invalidate the session tokens of those videos and require the people to start from scratch
Dec 10 14:56:31 <DOSP> jonc wow, thanks great idea, also, Is there class that handles
Dec 10 14:56:36 <DOSP> hops
Dec 10 14:57:51 <jonc> I would suggest on the clientside that you create a service to do the actual upload (and start it on it's own thread)
Dec 10 14:58:08 <DOSP> 	jonc wow, thanks great idea, also, Is there class that handles vidoe streaming right from camera ? i mean Iam propably gonna create my own video recording app which while recording will be sending data ? or it is better to record to temp or sdcard and from there immeadiatelly start service which will upload the thing
Dec 10 14:58:23 <jonc> I don't know about that, sorry
Dec 10 14:58:42 <DOSP> well you actually answered above :)
Dec 10 14:59:16 <jonc> I guess that depends, if you want to make sure you lose nothing, record to sdcard and start sending that file as it is being written (will take a little coordination)
Dec 10 14:59:20 <Sirolf> you can probably directly upload the streaming data ... but you might miss frames
Dec 10 14:59:25 <jonc> because they could lose connection 1/2 way through recording
Dec 10 14:59:39 <jonc> and then since you never cached that video it is lost
Dec 10 14:59:40 <Sirolf> exactly ;)
Dec 10 15:00:16 <jonc> if you cache it to a file and only upload while you have a connection you will eventually get the entire file sent
Dec 10 15:00:43 <Sirolf> you could also try buffering blocks in memory ... but it's limited in size
Dec 10 15:00:56 <DOSP> Hmmm, I think overloading RAM doesnt come to a question right ? or ? is the video stream large to load whole memory if the recording is saved to TEMP and then uploaded up, so if we lose connection the recording will be stacking in ram
Dec 10 15:01:01 <jonc> also streaming will affect the quality that can be uploaded (based on connection)
Dec 10 15:01:16 <jonc> save it out to a file
Dec 10 15:01:49 <DOSP> yea, will be better
Dec 10 15:01:50 <jonc> cache like 10 seconds at a time in memory, dump to file, queue that 10 seconds to be sent to server
Dec 10 15:02:24 <DOSP> uhmmmm, okay that'll be better
Dec 10 15:03:03 <Sirolf> couldnt saving 10 seconds of hd-quality to sd be slow?
Dec 10 15:03:27 <Sirolf> at least cause lag between the different chunks ?
Dec 10 15:04:11 <jonc> I doubt it will take 10 seconds, you're talking probably around 10-20mb max
Dec 10 15:04:41 <jonc> I believe you get compressed video data straight from the camera
Dec 10 15:04:44 <jonc> mpeg-2 probably
Dec 10 15:05:16 <jonc> (could be wrong though)
Dec 10 15:05:37 <Sirolf> also DOSP : https://code.google.com/p/spydroid-ipcamera/
Dec 10 15:06:02 <Sirolf> is something like that useful?
Dec 10 15:07:50 <jonc> http://developer.android.com/reference/java/io/RandomAccessFile.html   Allows you to read and write to a file at the same time (stream to file while reading to send to server)
Dec 10 15:07:51 <Sirolf> https://code.google.com/p/ipcamera-for-android/
Dec 10 15:07:55 <Sirolf> that one I meant
Dec 10 15:09:13 <DOSP> oooo treasure :) great, thanks guys :)
Dec 10 15:09:32 <Ankhwatcher> Heya is there any way to set TextView's to automatically switch to View.GONE when they have no content and View.VISIBLE when they do have content?
Dec 10 15:10:35 <jonc> You could extend TextView and overload the setText() function, call super.set(text), check the contents of the string parameter and set the visibility based on that
Dec 10 15:10:38 <Sirolf> Ankhwatcher if(tv.getText().equals(""))tv.setVisibility(View.GONE); ?
Dec 10 15:10:55 <jonc> then use your class instead of the textview
Dec 10 15:11:49 <jonc> super.setText(text)*
Dec 10 15:12:57 <Ankhwatcher> how about this: http://pastebin.com/XG7tjZV0
Dec 10 15:13:53 <jonc> should work, just make sure to always call that on the ui thread
Dec 10 15:15:41 <Sirolf> :S
Dec 10 15:15:44 <Ankhwatcher> will calling String.valueof(null) crash my app
Dec 10 15:15:53 <Sirolf> .. there is no spoon
Dec 10 15:16:03 <f2prateek1> Ankhwatcher: try it
Dec 10 15:16:20 <jonc> google it :P
Dec 10 15:16:33 <jonc> first hit of "String.valueof(null)" tells you
Dec 10 15:16:36 <Sirolf> call it out loud ;) see what happens
Dec 10 15:17:19 <osxorgate> sweet, jetbrains gave me a full license because i report so many issues
Dec 10 15:18:10 <Sirolf> nice :)
Dec 10 15:18:13 <Ankhwatcher> osxorgate: was one of them that f***ing thing where it tells you that getClass() is ambiguous?
Dec 10 15:18:33 <Sirolf> lol
Dec 10 15:18:35 <osxorgate> no, but you can report it yourself :0
Dec 10 15:18:42 <Ankhwatcher> If I see that one more time I might have to tie the bug report to a brick...
Dec 10 15:18:53 <osxorgate> i dont think i ever call getClass()
Dec 10 15:19:12 <Sirolf> because it's ambiguous
Dec 10 15:20:47 <Sirolf> and a little racist ;)
Dec 10 15:21:14 <Sirolf> guess it's friday afternoon in my time-zone
Dec 10 15:21:15 <Ankhwatcher> you do know that classism is it's only thing, right?
Dec 10 15:21:57 <Sirolf> more left than right, I guess
Dec 10 15:22:21 <Sirolf> politically speaking
Dec 10 15:23:18 <Ankhwatcher> s/only/own
Dec 10 15:24:39 <BrutusBoots> wondering if anyone can help me out... I have AOSP (4.4) building fine at the command line.  I've followed the Eclipse guide from Google but I'm getting about 3K errors when I load the code into eclipse
Dec 10 15:25:01 <BrutusBoots> I'm assuming the .classpath that's included is out of date/
Dec 10 15:25:01 <BrutusBoots> ?
Dec 10 15:26:03 <Sirolf> what kind of errors BrutusBoots ?
Dec 10 15:26:37 <BrutusBoots> lots of unresolved types
Dec 10 15:26:47 <BrutusBoots> hang on, I'll try and get the error list into pastebin
Dec 10 15:27:43 <BrutusBoots> http://pastebin.com/0zLBtUGh
Dec 10 15:27:50 <BrutusBoots> that's all my build errors
Dec 10 15:27:56 <BrutusBoots> I'm using Eclipse indigo
Dec 10 15:29:09 <BrutusBoots> my .classpath -> http://pastebin.com/9YmDWrFZ
Dec 10 15:31:19 <Sirolf> maybe simply use Project -> Clean.. ?
Dec 10 15:32:46 <BrutusBoots> if I go through the 'out/target/common/obj/JAVA_LIBRARIES/' directories and add some of them to the classpath the errors start to go away
Dec 10 15:32:55 <BrutusBoots> but it's a pain finding out what references are missing
Dec 10 15:35:35 <jonc> if I give a list an array of strings (from a resource), it works, if I use array adapter with a list of strings being read from a file I get nothing. If I extend ArrayAdapter and inflate everything myself, the views are set, but nothing shows
Dec 10 15:35:38 <dodobrain> guys.. how would i hardcode a listview ?
Dec 10 15:36:14 <dodobrain> i want to basically have a twolistitem listview for showing about 5 listitems
Dec 10 15:36:36 <jonc> You can create your own listadapter
Dec 10 15:36:38 <dodobrain> i don;t want to make an adapter and then use java to populate this.. this listview will never change in contents
Dec 10 15:37:04 <jonc> Are you only showing text?
Dec 10 15:37:09 <jonc> like 1 textview?
Dec 10 15:37:18 <dodobrain> i can always put the listitems right next/below each other in the xml, but i lose the nice line separator between listitems
Dec 10 15:37:36 <dodobrain> each listitem has 2 textviews and 1 small img for now
Dec 10 15:37:49 <jonc> then you will have to create your own list adapter I believe
Dec 10 15:38:09 <jonc> that's a non-standard layout and you have to write something that can handle populating the fields correctly
Dec 10 15:38:27 <dodobrain> populating what fields? every string/img is hardcoced
Dec 10 15:38:36 <dodobrain> and it will never change over the liefecycle of the entire app!
Dec 10 15:38:49 <dodobrain> and you still recommend me to write an adapter for this?
Dec 10 15:38:53 <jonc> it is hardcoded, but the generic list adapter that you can use will not handle images / multiple textviews
Dec 10 15:39:30 <dodobrain> err.. what if i have my listitem have only 1 textview?
Dec 10 15:39:41 <jonc> if you want to have more than just text in the list items then you need to write your own adapter that inflates a layout (or make the layout in code) for the list item and assigns the image / text to the appropriate views
Dec 10 15:39:49 <dodobrain> you're still going to tell me to populate the listview from the java code using the default adapter right?
Dec 10 15:40:04 <jonc> then you don't even need a textview, you can just set an array as the items I believe
Dec 10 15:40:22 <dodobrain> yeah i know.. but i want to do this in the layout!
Dec 10 15:40:24 <dodobrain> not in code!
Dec 10 15:40:37 <jonc> yes I understand that
Dec 10 15:40:51 <jonc> and you can create arrays in the resource files
Dec 10 15:41:03 <jonc> you can create an array in your strings.xml values file and then set the listview to use that, all in xml files
Dec 10 15:41:49 <jonc> the "entries" for a listview can be set to an array defined in strings.xml
Dec 10 15:41:49 <dodobrain> good.. that sounds heaps better than writing any code for this trivial task
Dec 10 15:41:50 <jonc> and then bam
Dec 10 15:42:03 <jonc> a customized look is not as trivial as you'd think
Dec 10 15:42:23 <jonc> it doesn't know where the image should go, or what textview any strings should go into
Dec 10 15:42:30 <jonc> now with just text, yes you can do that
Dec 10 15:42:34 <dodobrain> err.. i have heaps of listviews where the listitems have a complex layout.. i have written the adapters for such and they work fine
Dec 10 15:42:39 <jonc> but anything more, how does it know to populate things?
Dec 10 15:42:45 <dodobrain> just for this one i don;t *want* to write *any* code
Dec 10 15:42:56 <jonc> then you will only be able to show text
Dec 10 15:43:27 <dodobrain> is there a way to draw the horizontal line separator?
Dec 10 15:43:47 <jonc> it should draw it on it's own
Dec 10 15:44:03 <jonc> but I've used other views and just set their height to 1-2 px if I want a seperator
Dec 10 15:44:06 <dodobrain> if yes, my job will be complete as i will simply put the hardcoded/hardlayoutted items within a scrollview and bam, my job is done without touching code
Dec 10 15:45:12 <jonc> http://pastebin.com/ir9nfLfX
Dec 10 15:45:28 <jonc> doing that allows you to create a line
Dec 10 15:48:17 <dodobrain> jonc, is border_breaks a builtin definition of the colour ?
Dec 10 15:48:33 <jonc> nope, our own color in colors.xml
Dec 10 15:49:01 <dodobrain> umm.. wouldn't that mess up if the user has a different colour scheme or something >?
Dec 10 15:49:09 <jonc> no
Dec 10 15:49:23 <jonc> colors.xml is part of the resources of your app
Dec 10 15:49:31 <jonc> you can define colors to be used all over the place
Dec 10 15:49:42 <jonc> same thing with strings.xml, numbers.xml, styles.xml
Dec 10 15:50:24 <jonc> all of them are things to be reused throughout your app so you can change the value in 1 place and it will change the look of anything that references it
Dec 10 15:51:54 <BrutusBoots> sirolf: clean doesn't help anything
Dec 10 15:52:05 <BrutusBoots> is anyone here building Android 4.4 in eclipse?
Dec 10 15:52:09 <BrutusBoots> could you share your .classpath file?
Dec 10 15:56:40 <Sirolf> BrutusBoots : http://pastebin.com/wLCQDe8h
Dec 10 15:56:41 <Zgary> hi
Dec 10 15:56:52 <Zgary> I try to modify preferences of a wallpaper from code, http://pastebin.com/MeAbrwvG
Dec 10 15:57:10 <Zgary> my key does not change as the output shows
Dec 10 15:57:15 <Zgary> any ideas?
Dec 10 16:02:03 <dragorn> Zgary: you have to commit an editor after changing something
Dec 10 16:02:34 <Zgary> I use: prefs.edit().commit() . is that wrong?
Dec 10 16:02:57 <dragorn> I don't see that in your pastebinned code
Dec 10 16:03:03 <BrutusBoots> sirolf - thanks!
Dec 10 16:03:18 <Zgary> is in the Log:     Log.i(TAG, "done?: " + prefs.edit().commit());
Dec 10 16:03:31 <dragorn> and I don't know if it's correct, regardless - edit returns an editor instance, i've only ever seen it assigned, changes made, and the instance committed.
Dec 10 16:03:40 <dragorn> I'd suspect edit() returns a new instance every time
Dec 10 16:03:46 <dragorn> the fact that your code doesn't work would back that up :P
Dec 10 16:03:52 <BrutusBoots> sirolf - and you use that to build aosp in eclipse? :o
Dec 10 16:04:33 <Zgary> so i should do prefs.edit().putBoolean("rotate key", flag).commit() ?
Dec 10 16:05:03 <dragorn> I wouldn't.
Dec 10 16:05:13 <Sirolf> final SharedPreferences.Editor edit = mPrefs.edit();
Dec 10 16:05:14 <Sirolf>         edit.putInt("zoomLevel", mMapView.getZoomLevel());
Dec 10 16:05:18 <dragorn> I'd assign the edit instance to something, modify it, then commit it.
Dec 10 16:05:20 <Sirolf> edit.commit();
Dec 10 16:05:25 <Sirolf> that's what I use
Dec 10 16:05:27 <dragorn> Like that, yes
Dec 10 16:05:28 <Zgary> thx
Dec 10 16:05:50 <dragorn> you MAY be able to stack calls, but I've only ever done what sirolf does, and only ever seen it of that style, too
Dec 10 16:06:00 <dragorn> of course, try one, and if it doesnt' work, try the other
Dec 10 16:06:45 <Zgary> tried my method, the chain, it works
Dec 10 16:06:54 <Zgary> I think I will use yours to be safe
Dec 10 16:07:28 <Sirolf> it's easier if you'd like to put more in the editor before committing I think
Dec 10 16:10:03 <dragorn> yup, that too
Dec 10 16:10:14 <Zgary> now I want to show a Toast message from the update method of a class TapObserver that implements Observer   (I detect when a flag changes state    true/false) .. I cannot get a context for the Toast, is it possible to show one?
Dec 10 16:12:41 <jonc> can't pass the TapObserver a context in the constructor?
Dec 10 16:12:54 <dragorn> Zgary: if your callback is inside an activity you can use ActivityWhatever.this ; otherwise you could pass a context to your observer class after its created or in its constructor
Dec 10 16:13:59 <Zgary> for a live wallpaper where should I get the context from?
Dec 10 16:14:30 <jonc> Should you be showing toasts from a live wallpaper?
Dec 10 16:15:09 <Zgary> I want to confirm when a long press is detected
Dec 10 16:15:19 <Zgary> this changes a state on the wallapaper
Dec 10 16:15:19 <jonc> Log it?
Dec 10 16:15:33 <Zgary> I want to confirm the change to the user
Dec 10 16:15:37 <dragorn> according to google, it looks like the wallpaper passed in your renderer functions as a context
Dec 10 16:15:50 <jonc> Yeah, realized that after you said the state change
Dec 10 16:17:39 <theblang_> I am trying to use setProgressBarIndeterminateVisibility, but it doesn't seem to work on my older devices running 2.3.x.  Anyone else come across the same problem?
Dec 10 16:18:23 <Zgary> I investigate on getting the context, thx dragon
Dec 10 16:20:07 <schwiz> Anyone know where Google moved ant to in the mac sdk?
Dec 10 16:20:17 <schwiz> Seems my binary is missing after updating to the 4.4 sdk
Dec 10 16:21:41 <Leeds> I'm pretty sure ant has never been in the SDK - on Linux at least - it's a separate install
Dec 10 16:22:08 <schwiz> hmmm I don't recall ever installing it but I guess that doesnt mean anything :)
Dec 10 16:23:37 <schwiz> does ant come pre-installed on ubuntu?
Dec 10 16:23:59 <theblang_> Ahh, it was because I wasn't using supportRequestWindow
Dec 10 16:24:11 <Leeds> doubt it, but I don't use ubunutuntun
Dec 10 16:25:36 <Estel> Anyone encountered "Fragment com.google.etc.MapFragment did not create a view" before when adding it through xml?
Dec 10 16:26:09 <dillonko> is there a lite version of the sdk
Dec 10 16:26:14 <dillonko> for linux
Dec 10 16:26:56 <Leeds> dillonko: what would a light version exclude?
Dec 10 16:27:40 <Leeds> only takes 1.3 seconds to download the existing SDK...
Dec 10 16:28:08 <dillonko> IDK im new to android coding
Dec 10 16:28:27 <Leeds> you do mean the SDK, not the ADT bundle, right?
Dec 10 16:28:42 <dillonko> but i code on my netbook
Dec 10 16:28:45 <Leeds> you obviously think it's too big, or you wouldn't have asked the question
Dec 10 16:28:48 <Leeds> ooh, that's a bad sign
Dec 10 16:29:14 <jonc> You code exclusively on your netbook?
Dec 10 16:30:08 <dillonko> yes
Dec 10 16:30:10 <Leeds> jonc: he also types really slowly, apparently
Dec 10 16:30:28 <jonc> I couldn't do that, too small of a screen and no 2nd monitor :P
Dec 10 16:30:49 <dillonko> no i was also doing some python practice
Dec 10 16:31:14 <dillonko> sorry im on codeacademy
Dec 10 16:31:21 <jonc> just started at a new place and they gave me a 15 inch laptop, had to request a 2nd monitor immediately
Dec 10 16:31:43 <jonc> and now the laptop sits off to the side
Dec 10 16:31:46 <Leeds> second monitor I can live without - actually got mine turned off at the moment - but I like having a proper keyboard and mouse
Dec 10 16:32:09 <Eeeeeee> gaming mouse needed
Dec 10 16:32:16 <Estel> jonc: sounds like an underpowered mac mini :P
Dec 10 16:32:17 <dillonko> the i know i need a desktop
Dec 10 16:32:20 <jonc> Yeah, that's what I've done here, hooked up a mouse + keyboard and a 24 inch monitor to the laptop, the external monitor is my primary monitor now
Dec 10 16:32:29 <dillonko> i will get one soon
Dec 10 16:32:32 <jonc> hell no, no mac's here
Dec 10 16:33:02 <jonc> Although I do need to request more ram for this, only has 4gb
Dec 10 16:33:03 <dillonko> i have a linux mint
Dec 10 16:33:14 <dillonko> i dont like windows
Dec 10 16:33:28 <Estel> jonc: anyway, yeah, no reduced version of the sdk, but IDE is a bigger concern I guess
Dec 10 16:33:45 <dillonko> damn
Dec 10 16:33:54 <jonc> The thing I love about windows is the Windows Key + Direction buttons for snapping windows (linux probably has it also, or at least something you can install)
Dec 10 16:33:58 <Leeds> nah, you don't need an IDE
Dec 10 16:34:02 <jonc> I know macs don't have it
Dec 10 16:34:06 <dillonko> what can i do to keep it from crashing
Dec 10 16:34:09 <Leeds> real men use vim
Dec 10 16:34:11 <dodobrain> how do i set the spacing between 2 elements in a linearlayout ?
Dec 10 16:34:21 <jonc> Padding or margin dodobrain
Dec 10 16:34:41 <jonc> padding is internal, margin is external
Dec 10 16:34:54 <dodobrain> padding is for the first and last elements.. or rather the elements that are close to the boundary of the linearlayout
Dec 10 16:34:55 <Estel> dillonko: what bit is crashing? What are you using?
Dec 10 16:35:13 <jonc> you can add it to the inner elements
Dec 10 16:35:47 <jonc> adding bottom padding (as long as backgrounds are transparent) will give you the same look as if you added a top margin to an element below
Dec 10 16:36:17 <dillonko> just the sdk
Dec 10 16:36:29 <dodobrain> yeah, i'll do it with margins and an extra linearlayout container encompassing everything
Dec 10 16:36:33 <dodobrain> thanks
Dec 10 16:38:37 <Estel> dillonko: Eclipse?
Dec 10 16:39:00 <dillonko> sorry yes eclipse
Dec 10 16:39:08 <Leeds> eclipse is not the SDK
Dec 10 16:39:17 <Leeds> do not attempt to run Eclipse on a netbook
Dec 10 16:39:24 <Leeds> it may melt
Dec 10 16:39:42 <jonc> ^
Dec 10 16:40:01 <jonc> You may have to code in something like Notepad++ and build using command line
Dec 10 16:40:09 <Leeds> vim
Dec 10 16:40:10 <rymate1234> error: Error retrieving parent for item: No resource found that matches the given name '@android:style/Widget.Holo.Dark.ActionBar'.
Dec 10 16:40:17 <jonc> I hate vim
Dec 10 16:40:19 <Leeds> jonc: wtf is Notepad++?
Dec 10 16:40:30 <CallumTaylor> notepad + 1
Dec 10 16:41:16 <jonc> It's similar to sublime text
Dec 10 16:41:25 <jonc> it's almost like Notepad meets an IDE
Dec 10 16:41:26 <michalrus> Similar... ;O
Dec 10 16:41:37 <rymate1234> sublime text is infinitely better though
Dec 10 16:41:48 <Leeds> all of which are inherently inferior to vim
Dec 10 16:41:52 <Leeds> also, emacs
Dec 10 16:41:53 <lupine> gedit > *
Dec 10 16:41:58 <lupine> FIGHT
Dec 10 16:42:01 <jonc> No, Vim is terrible
Dec 10 16:42:09 <Leeds> anyway, to get back to the serious point
Dec 10 16:42:12 <michalrus> sed >> anything
Dec 10 16:42:24 <dillonko> how do i get sublime text to work with android sdk
Dec 10 16:42:25 <lupine> pff, ed
Dec 10 16:42:28 <Eeeeeee> sublimetext ftw
Dec 10 16:42:28 <jonc> I prefer notepad++ with explorer and nppexec plugins
Dec 10 16:42:35 <Leeds> dillonko: whatever the developer site suggests, you do not have to use an IDE - if you don't have a computer capable of running one, don't
Dec 10 16:42:40 <helo> is this the best solution for a horizontally scrolling listview - http://www.dev-smart.com/archives/34
Dec 10 16:43:05 <jonc> dillonko, if you don't use android studio / eclipse you will have to do a lot more upfront work to get things started
Dec 10 16:43:07 <Eeeeeee> jonc tried sublime text?
Dec 10 16:43:11 <jonc> yes
Dec 10 16:43:24 <dillonko> ahhh
Dec 10 16:43:31 <dillonko> so im stuck
Dec 10 16:43:38 <dillonko> that sucks
Dec 10 16:43:41 <jaynewstrom> anyone write tests using gradle and android studio?
Dec 10 16:43:42 <Eeeeeee> sublime text isn't good for android/java i've found
Dec 10 16:43:44 <jonc> dillonko, and on a netbook you will have to ignore android studio / eclipse
Dec 10 16:43:44 <helo> if you're used to using vim, vim is great
Dec 10 16:44:09 <shmooz> dillonko: how is eclipse crashing ?
Dec 10 16:44:20 <shmooz> try Android Studio
Dec 10 16:44:49 <shmooz> but yeah if it's a netbook you're better off with vim
Dec 10 16:45:16 <shmooz> there won't be enough screen real estate for eclipse
Dec 10 16:45:32 <dillonko> i think its better if i show you an example
Dec 10 16:46:02 <jonc> Screen real estate isn't the issue, memory will be the big problem
Dec 10 16:46:09 <dillonko> shmooz: it crashed when i run a test program
Dec 10 16:46:20 <dillonko> like hello world
Dec 10 16:46:34 <shmooz> the IDE disappeared ?
Dec 10 16:46:39 <shmooz> no error msg ?
Dec 10 16:46:56 <shmooz> or are you talking about your hello world app crashing ?
Dec 10 16:48:32 <dillonko> let me get a snap shot. a picture is worth a thosand words
Dec 10 16:48:44 <shmooz> I do have a friend who says he runs eclipse fine on his netbook
Dec 10 16:49:14 <shmooz> so it can run on netbooks
Dec 10 16:50:54 <dillonko> to be exact its android studio
Dec 10 16:51:30 <dillonko> i have written many java projects in eclipse
Dec 10 16:51:48 <dillonko> i love eclipse
Dec 10 16:51:59 <Leeds> dillonko: sicko
Dec 10 16:52:13 <shmooz> ok then get the eclipse juno mobile or whatever
Dec 10 16:52:27 <shmooz> and you'll feel at home
Dec 10 16:52:42 <dillonko> Leeds: lol
Dec 10 16:53:45 <dillonko> but I really hope it wont crash on me agaim
Dec 10 16:57:15 <CallumTaylor> "dillonko: i love eclipse"
Dec 10 16:57:17 <CallumTaylor> what
Dec 10 16:57:22 <CallumTaylor> no one loves eclipse
Dec 10 16:58:20 <jrtappers> Is there any reason that apps would look different on a Samsung Galaxy S4, and on an emulator with Google API 17?
Dec 10 16:58:20 <dillonko> CallumTaylor: really y
Dec 10 16:58:47 <dillonko> maybe in still new to the hidden pains of use
Dec 10 16:59:26 <dillonko> the biggest headache is it eats ram like a cookie monster
Dec 10 16:59:31 <jrtappers> It is a phonegap app, and it looks ok on most of the devices I have tested, but when it was downloaded on an S4 I got a screenshot and it looks bad
Dec 10 17:00:14 <Looney> can I call MyActivity.onCreate(null) from within some Listener of MyActivity ? ?
Dec 10 17:02:24 <dragorn> jrtappers: s4 has two flavors, touchwiz and google experience
Dec 10 17:02:30 <dragorn> jrtappers: touchwiz is skinned differently
Dec 10 17:03:04 <jrtappers> is there a way to test if that is the problem?
Dec 10 17:06:30 <jrtappers> It looks ok on Nexus 4,7,10 (Emulated) and Galaxy Ace and Toshiba AT300, and it even looks ok in chromium with the correct screen size for the S4
Dec 10 17:07:18 <jrtappers> But on the actual S4 the text is a lot larger, so is there a way to emulate a touchwiz device to test if that is the problem?
Dec 10 17:07:21 <ohcibi> is there a standard implementation for a webbrowser-view? like just a webview, back and forward and refresh and a close button? or is this something  android apps don't do? on ios its common that apps open links in a small webview, but I actually can't remember how it is on android... are all apps openening links via intents?
Dec 10 17:07:47 <dragorn> ohcibi: you can set a webview to open the real browser for any links inside it
Dec 10 17:08:00 <dragorn> jrtappers: not so far as i know
Dec 10 17:08:13 <dragorn> jrtappers: unless samsung provides a touchwiz vm on their dev pages or something
Dec 10 17:08:24 <ohcibi> dragorn: i know but the webview does not have a back and forward and a refresh button... I was asking if there is a standard implementation for it or if I have to build this myself..
Dec 10 17:08:55 <dragorn> ohcibi: as far as I know it doesn't, it's not really meant to provide a web browser environment
Dec 10 17:42:48 <Thrae> Hi, I'm trying to troubleshoot why my ASUS Transformer TF101 won't do Android encryption (dm-crypt) even with the stock ROM anymore. Can anyone here possibly help me out? I'm kinda out of ideas at the moment after trying all sorts of different ROMs.
Dec 10 17:48:55 <explodes> Is this bad design:
Dec 10 17:48:56 <explodes> public class StudioActivity extends BaseStudioActivity implements IStudioDrawerListener, IPhotoDrawerListener, IAcquirePictureListener, IChooseOverlaySetDrawerListener, IChooseOverlayDrawerListener, IPhotoOptionListener, IScaleListener, IChooseFontDrawerListener, ITextEditOptionListener, ISVGEditOptionListener,
Dec 10 17:48:56 <explodes> 		IPreviewDrawerListener, IShareDrawerListener, IOverlayDecodedListener, IOverlayUpdatedListener, IBookmarksDrawerListener, IOverlayMarketDrawerListener
Dec 10 18:00:28 <woozly> guys, how to overlay TextView at top of other views in layout?
Dec 10 18:00:43 <woozly> I have RelativeLayout
Dec 10 18:01:55 <explodes> with relativelayout's children, you can do alignTop="@id/myOtherView" and the top's will be the same.
Dec 10 18:02:21 <explodes> if you align TOP BOTTOM LEFT and RIGHT, the TextView will appear to be inside the view to which you are aligning.
Dec 10 18:03:40 <woozly> explodes: okay... I'll try to create new TextView programmatically, and then set it at top of whole layout, but It doesn't work :(
Dec 10 18:04:29 <explodes> whelp
Dec 10 18:05:36 <SimonVT> Just put the relativelayout and the textview in a framelayout
Dec 10 18:06:46 <ColinTheShots> I noticed that the Google apps include a send feedback widget… is this widget available in the API or is it just a Google thing? I'm guessing the latter.
Dec 10 18:09:56 <explodes> Hey SimonVT, how do I test that proguard ran successfully on my APK?
Dec 10 18:10:15 <Thrae> ColinTheShots: Hmm, I know there's the "Market Feedback Agent" service that likes to startup on boot and run in the background.
Dec 10 18:10:58 <explodes> mmm, I see: http://jd.benow.ca/
Dec 10 18:11:23 <SimonVT> Decompile and see if it did the stuff you told it to?
Dec 10 18:15:16 <FireBreath> Hi all.  WOuld anybody know if there's a way to default bluetooth radio to being ON when you start up the device?  My Nexus 7 2013 always boots with it turned off.
Dec 10 18:33:27 <veeti_> how do i make a nexus 5/1080p phone emulator? i've tried cloning the nexus 4 emulator and changing it to 1080p but that just results in some unholy phone-tablet avd
Dec 10 18:37:02 <Arkky> Hello, I have got a fragment in which I add an handler: "    public static Handler myHandler = new Handler(){    @Override      public void handleMessage(Message msg) {" Do you know how can I get the activity into the handleMessage function please ? I would like to do Toast.makeText inside which will make a text appear on the fragment but I can't get the view nor the activity :(
Dec 10 18:40:24 <tyr1ck> I have an issue with styling a ListView
Dec 10 18:40:38 <tyr1ck> If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it
Dec 10 18:40:39 <tyr1ck> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20501959/styling-string-in-listview-android-dev
Dec 10 18:40:47 <dragorn> Arkky: you can call SomeFragment.this.getActivity() probably
Dec 10 18:40:55 <tyr1ck> I posted the issue on stackoverflow but haven't received a response yet
Dec 10 18:41:51 <Arkky> Dreadnaught: I've tried but I get "No enclosing instance of the type Settings is accessible in scope". I will implements Handler.Callback I think
Dec 10 18:44:39 <tyr1ck> If I can just get the ListView styled, I will be done with this project >.<
Dec 10 18:46:48 <Baluse> hello
Dec 10 18:46:55 <Baluse> is there a way in retrofit
Dec 10 18:47:08 <Baluse> to return data + response without
Dec 10 18:47:11 <Baluse> callback ?
Dec 10 18:47:20 <evanc> can you
Dec 10 18:47:25 <evanc> collapse your messages
Dec 10 18:47:27 <evanc> into one question
Dec 10 18:47:29 <evanc> in the future?
Dec 10 18:47:43 <Baluse> what do you mean in the future ?
Dec 10 18:48:09 <evanc> the next time you ask a question, please don't send four messages for one sentence :)
Dec 10 18:50:23 <tyr1ck> After the pretentious corrections you are doubtful to get a response from these jackasses
Dec 10 18:50:51 <Baluse> lol
Dec 10 18:50:58 <tyr1ck> ;)
Dec 10 18:51:06 <tyr1ck> I'd just move on evanc
Dec 10 18:51:15 <tyr1ck> shrug it off... and move on
Dec 10 18:52:30 <JakeWharton> Baluse: use Response as method return type
Dec 10 18:52:39 <JakeWharton> no callback param
Dec 10 18:56:44 <Baluse> JakeWharton rethinking my problem seems that Response  return type is what I need
Dec 10 18:58:17 <Baluse> JakeWharton  you have implemented tons of things..  How can something like this bottom sliding bar can be implemented at android ? http://i.imgur.com/0zYn57v.png
Dec 10 18:58:48 <Baluse> it behaves like title strip and tabs
Dec 10 18:59:24 <lhunath> how do I know how much memory my app is allowed to use for caches?
Dec 10 19:00:17 <jaynewstrom> Runtime.getRuntime().maxMemory()
Dec 10 19:00:30 <shmooz> Baluse: is that russian or greek ?
Dec 10 19:00:41 <jaynewstrom> obviously you don't want to use that much for your caches... but that'll steer you in the right direction
Dec 10 19:03:39 <Baluse> greek
Dec 10 19:04:40 <Baluse> lhunath if you want to store bitmaps they are heavy:P . I recall days when windows mobile could handle only one bitmap before memory overlflow
Dec 10 19:11:49 <w9jds_> Yea I loaded one bitmap (full size) into memory for google glass and it overflowed :P\
Dec 10 19:32:51 <kbs> How does one retrieve the status of syncadapters associated with an account/provider pair? [eg: the last run time] I've written an authenticator and associated it with the mediastore provider. Is it possible to get back some statistics about its operation via the framework [without needing the adapter to record it separately on each run, of course.]
Dec 10 19:38:00 <g00s> capcool, ff 26
Dec 10 19:38:04 <g00s> capella :)
Dec 10 19:39:21 <rymate1234> trying to transfer my project to gradle, getting this error https://gist.github.com/rymate1234/7896787
Dec 10 19:45:24 <Eeeeeee> I want to eventually use a master-detail fragment to display content from local database. Not knowing much about fragments, would it be smart to skip using fragments all together at first, and implement them after rough functionality of app is established? Or should I just learn fragments and implement them from the start?
Dec 10 19:45:36 <kbs> the whole syncadapter/accountmanager waltz seems strange, if at the end of all the dancing it still doesn't let you retrieve the stats sent back via the syncadapter. Ah well. Guess time to record it separately.
Dec 10 19:45:47 <jaynewstrom> Eeeeeee: just don't use fragments period...
Dec 10 19:46:17 <rymate1234> jaynewstrom: fragments are cool!
Dec 10 19:46:27 <jaynewstrom> Fragments are dumb
Dec 10 19:46:49 <|0xD34D|> Eeeeeee: I would go with using fragments, might as well start getting use to using them now
Dec 10 19:46:51 <rymate1234> why?
Dec 10 19:47:54 <rymate1234> jaynewstrom: fragments make it really easy to make a tablet app in the future
Dec 10 19:48:01 <jaynewstrom> Management is painful
Dec 10 19:48:19 <eghdk> Hey guys, so I have a small problem. I'm trying to make a messaging app, but when I press send, my view doesn't seem to get added to the listview. If I hide the keyboard, the view is added. Any ideas?
Dec 10 19:48:38 <rymate1234> jaynewstrom: not for me
Dec 10 19:50:23 <viran> Hey, when linking a Play account with Google analythics, does the analytics updates daily? how does that work?
Dec 10 19:52:28 <f2prateek> Daily
Dec 10 19:53:02 <f2prateek> It's mor frequent through the analytics site directly, but the play dashboard only updates daily
Dec 10 19:53:30 <Eeeeeee> |0xD34D| that's my thought process. Is everything done differently with fragments? If I adopted them later, would I have to completely change approach for specific functionality, or is everything more or less portable (not requiring recode or different approach)? Not sure if this makes sense
Dec 10 19:54:13 <kbs> I've personally found that using fragments is rather like hailing a cab to go to the next block. It's certainly possible; though it seems rather excessive if the objective is to simply to visit the next block. And it sometimes prevents one from seeing more elegant solutions [like climbing up stairs rather than walking a block.]
Dec 10 19:54:58 <kbs> then again, lots of folks [and the android/google crowd in general] loves using fragments, so lots of folks find joy to be had using fragments
Dec 10 19:55:19 <Eeeeeee> nice analogy
Dec 10 19:56:15 <jonc> It seems like the standard now is to use fragments, they are greatly encouraged
Dec 10 19:57:06 <Eeeeeee> From a learning perspective as well?
Dec 10 19:58:04 <jonc> I would say learn them as early as possible
Dec 10 19:58:17 <jonc> To me they make more sense than an activity
Dec 10 19:58:35 <Eeeeeee> maybe I shouldn't start with the master-detail fragment though
Dec 10 19:58:38 <jonc> at least for multiple pages of an app
Dec 10 20:00:06 <Eeeeeee> appreciate the advice everyone
Dec 10 20:15:02 <jonc> If I have an activity with a container and a fragment (fragA) inside that container, is it bad practice to replace that fragment (fragA) with another inside of fragA's code?
Dec 10 20:19:48 <g00s> jonc its probably best if fragments dont know about each other, but i'm not an expert on it
Dec 10 20:20:51 <Schalla> Good evening. I got a question, any good recommendations when you wanna get into android development in general?
Dec 10 20:21:01 <Schalla> Books (Print or PDF), Tutorials, ...
Dec 10 20:23:25 <jonc> For me the best way to learn was to just start building what I wanted / was needed
Dec 10 20:23:45 <jonc> I was given a design and some requirements and built towards that, learned as I went.
Dec 10 20:24:15 <Schalla> That's right, I also did it like that in any language I started.
Dec 10 20:24:20 <jonc> When searching for how to do certain things and learning from it, everything will feel more worthwhile
Dec 10 20:25:06 <jonc> Possibly find a tutorial for an ok sample app, but instead of following it word for word the first time, get the design and see if you can put together what they have on your own?
Dec 10 20:25:17 <jonc> and then compare with their final code / resources
Dec 10 20:25:22 <Schalla> Wanted to start out with a simple ToDo App.
Dec 10 20:25:30 <Schalla> Guess that is a pretty basic-example
Dec 10 20:25:52 <jonc> http://www.developerfeed.com/building-todo-list-app-android-using-sqlite
Dec 10 20:26:13 <jonc> it uses eclipse I believe, but not hard to use android studio with it
Dec 10 20:26:25 <Schalla> jonc: Using IntelliJ here, deployment works like a charm already.
Dec 10 20:26:34 <eghdk> I'm having trouble with setShadowLayer with the paint object. It takes 4 parameters, radius, x and y and color.
Dec 10 20:26:37 <Schalla> Thanks for the link, thought. :)
Dec 10 20:26:38 <jonc> Yeah, I use Android Studio
Dec 10 20:26:41 <eghdk> I'm not sure about the first three.
Dec 10 20:27:38 <jonc> x and y are the offset
Dec 10 20:27:44 <jonc> and the radius is the blur radius
Dec 10 20:27:54 <jonc> (how far it will go out)
Dec 10 20:29:31 <jonc> How can I preserve the fragment inside a container inside an activity?
Dec 10 20:29:55 <eghdk> jonc: I'm trying to use this shadow layer as a border. What would I set the offset?
Dec 10 20:30:11 <jonc> It seems like the activity goes back to the first fragment (the one that is added in the activity's onCreate) if I suspend the app and bring it back
Dec 10 20:30:37 <jonc> I am not positive, but 0,0 I would imagine means don't offset at all, and it blurs all edges the same
Dec 10 20:30:55 <jonc> by setting an offset it may push it towards different edges
Dec 10 20:31:30 <jonc> so a blur radius of 10 and 10,10 may give you a bottom right shadow only (not positive)
Dec 10 20:31:40 <jonc> try different values and see what it does
Dec 10 20:35:07 <eghdk> Hmm… thats not gonna work. My main paint color has alpha, and so setting a shadow layer actually paints another entire path. So I can see my shadow under my actual image.
Dec 10 20:35:15 <eghdk> Any ideas on adding a border?
Dec 10 20:35:20 <eghdk> TO a paint object?
Dec 10 20:38:15 <jonc> Create an image that is your image size + 2x border width / height
Dec 10 20:38:38 <jonc> flood it with the color you want, then draw your image offset by border width and height onto the all 1 color image
Dec 10 20:39:33 <jonc> eghdk, will the image be displayed in a view or is this for like a game / being displayed using opengl?
Dec 10 20:39:46 <eghdk> view
Dec 10 20:39:54 <jonc> if a view, just wrap it in a RelativeLayout with the image on the inside
Dec 10 20:40:07 <jonc> set the relativelayout padding to be equal to your border width size
Dec 10 20:40:24 <jonc> set the background of the relativelayout to the color of your choice
Dec 10 20:40:29 <jonc> and then bam, border
Dec 10 20:40:30 <theblang> Does anyone have a clue what could be causing this stacktrace?  I am a bit stumped.  It is only a warning, not error level.  It seems to be happening after messing around with a navigation drawer + support library.  http://pastebin.com/NxkDSpJ4
Dec 10 20:41:48 <eghdk> What if the view inside is transparent though. Wont the background color bleed through?
Dec 10 20:42:34 <jonc> yes
Dec 10 20:42:49 <eghdk> Also, I'm basically drawing a semi tranparent circle, so creating a layout inside of it, will not really give me the 2px border I'm looking for. Any other ideas?
Dec 10 20:43:24 <jonc> so the image is a circle, with transparency?
Dec 10 20:43:32 <eghdk> yeah.
Dec 10 20:43:36 <jonc> and you want to add a border around the circle part only?
Dec 10 20:43:42 <eghdk> Yep!
Dec 10 20:43:59 <eghdk> Im' drawing the circle as a custom view, with Paint() and Path()
Dec 10 20:44:01 <kbs> maybe simplest to just use two separate paints to draw your circle. One with stroke, the other with fill.
Dec 10 20:44:03 <jonc> the only way I would know how to do it would be render to a texture with a pixel shader
Dec 10 20:44:47 <jonc> I don't know of any built in android functions that will actually go into the image and check if something is transparent and draw the border around the transparent / non-transparent parts of the image
Dec 10 20:44:54 <eghdk> kbs: I'm not sure how I would do that.
Dec 10 20:45:29 <eghdk> I want to use paint.setStyle(Paint.Style.FILL_AND_STROKE); BUT I Don't know how to use a seperate color for fill, and sepetate for stroke
Dec 10 20:45:35 <jonc> Why not put the border around the image in photoshop or something similar?
Dec 10 20:45:54 <eghdk> It's not an "image", I'm drawing it as a custom view.
Dec 10 20:45:58 <jonc> gotcha
Dec 10 20:46:10 <kbs> eghdk: I said - two paints. not, one paint with fill_and_stroke
Dec 10 20:46:13 <eghdk> sorry for the misunderstanding.
Dec 10 20:46:35 <jonc> gotcha
Dec 10 20:46:37 <kbs> canvas.drawPath(my_circle_path, paint_with_alpha_fill)
Dec 10 20:46:53 <kbs> canvas.drawPath(my_circle_path, paint_with_stroke)
Dec 10 20:47:03 <kbs> dunno, that's the dumb and simple way to do it I guess
Dec 10 20:47:14 <eghdk> Okay, so do canvas.drawPath TWICE.
Dec 10 20:47:18 <eghdk> I'll try that now.
Dec 10 20:51:36 <RxDx> I am starting with android... please, can anyone help me? Im trying to print a json get, but my app is crashing.
Dec 10 20:52:00 <jonc> RxDx, stacktrace?
Dec 10 20:52:23 <eghdk> kbs: I still need to mess around with it, but I think that will be the solution. Thanks very much.
Dec 10 20:52:29 <RxDx> jonc, noob question.. whats that? I am lost with logs
Dec 10 20:52:34 <kbs> eghdk: sure, good luck.
Dec 10 20:53:06 <jonc> It should show up in the logs
Dec 10 20:53:15 <jonc> it should have line numbers and an exception
Dec 10 20:53:35 <santebi> look for FATAL in logcat
Dec 10 20:53:57 <RxDx> jons, is it suppose to appear on Console tab or LogCat tab?
Dec 10 20:54:10 <santebi> in the logcat tab in ddms/monitor
Dec 10 20:54:14 <jonc> ^
Dec 10 20:56:09 <RxDx> ddms/monitor? didnt find
Dec 10 20:57:07 <santebi> hmm sorry must have confused you, are you using eclipse ? there should be a logcat tab or view
Dec 10 20:57:43 <RxDx> 12-10 18:56:43.228: E/Trace(22554): error opening trace file: No such file or directory (2)
Dec 10 20:57:48 <RxDx> santebi, yes.. eclipse
Dec 10 20:57:53 <santebi> try to toggle it to show "errors" only
Dec 10 20:58:41 <RxDx> http://pastebin.com/fbHWwqjt
Dec 10 20:59:18 <RxDx> is this a stacktrace?
Dec 10 20:59:54 <santebi> no, this is a log dump :) there isn't anything that i can see that suggests a crash ...
Dec 10 21:01:14 <santebi> usually when a crash occurs you will see something like "FATAL EXCEPTION <threadname> <date>"
Dec 10 21:01:46 <RxDx> santebi, ok.. ill try to read more in android documentation
Dec 10 21:01:47 <RxDx> thanks :)
Dec 10 21:02:20 <theblang> Is it a good idea to make a MasterActivity that all of your activities inherit from, in order to implement stuff like navigation drawer and menus in one place?
Dec 10 21:02:36 <helo> adb logcat | grep `adb shell ps | grep com.sample.stuff | cut -c10-15`
Dec 10 21:02:44 <helo> ^ good stuff
Dec 10 21:02:59 <kurt21> Is there a simpler,lighter,faster alternative to using the Android emulator for basic dev testing of a basic GUI app? I don't need hyper accurate simulation, I just want to make sure the basics work.
Dec 10 21:03:30 <helo> kurt21: there is an x86 emulator, which is quite a bit faster than the arm emulators
Dec 10 21:03:59 <helo> it's still basically the same VM approach, just native performance
Dec 10 21:04:08 <kurt21> is there a tool that just runs a single android app and doesn't simulate an entire android device?
Dec 10 21:04:42 <XXCoder> uh OS is definitely required
Dec 10 21:04:43 <helo> not that i know of... the tool would have to reimplement a ton of stuff
Dec 10 21:05:09 <rymate1234> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20504004/attempting-to-transfer-my-android-app-to-gradle-having-some-issues-with-buildin
Dec 10 21:05:18 <rymate1234> any help is appreciated
Dec 10 21:05:19 <santebi> the arm emulators run quite nice on linux with gpu acceleration
Dec 10 21:05:20 <helo> notifications, ibinder, etc etc... it would end up being an android reimplementation :)
Dec 10 21:05:38 <kurt21> helo: awesome. is that a configuration option in the stock emulator or a completely separate product?
Dec 10 21:07:30 <helo> kurt21: you set the CPU/ABI to 'Intel Atom (x86)' when you make a new Android Virtual Device. it looks like it is only available for some devices
Dec 10 21:07:43 <kurt21> helo: awesome. thanks
Dec 10 21:07:51 <helo> and only more recent API levels
Dec 10 21:08:33 <santebi> i think you also need to download an image from the sdk manager for the x86 flavors
Dec 10 21:10:05 <Kilian]> Hi
Dec 10 21:10:50 <Kilian]> is it possible to send Messages via a Handler between two worker threads? If yes, doe s someone have an example or maybe a better idea in general
Dec 10 21:11:13 <g00s> Kilian] sure , a basic scenario
Dec 10 21:11:25 <FabianH> hey guys
Dec 10 21:11:27 <FabianH> i need your help
Dec 10 21:11:31 <FabianH> i'm freaking out..
Dec 10 21:11:32 <FabianH> SDK location not found. Define location with sdk.dir in the local.properties file or with an ANDROID_HOME environment variable.
Dec 10 21:11:42 <FabianH> i get this error in android studio over and over again..
Dec 10 21:11:48 <FabianH> i tried setting android_home
Dec 10 21:12:00 <FabianH> tried to set in local.properties.. all not working
Dec 10 21:13:05 <f2prateek> pastebin local.properties
Dec 10 21:13:26 <f2prateek> and what do you get for 'echo $ANDROID_HOME' in terminal?
Dec 10 21:13:38 <FabianH> dk.dir=D\:/android developing/sdk
Dec 10 21:14:23 <g00s> FabianH you can also try setting this in AS default settings for Projects
Dec 10 21:14:30 <f2prateek> change it to sdk.dir=D\:/android\ developing/sdk
Dec 10 21:15:11 <f2prateek> and was that ANDROID_HOME or from local.properties
Dec 10 21:15:16 <FabianH> i was to stupid to copy -.-
Dec 10 21:15:20 <FabianH> it was sdk.dir........
Dec 10 21:15:29 <FabianH> where to set this default settings?
Dec 10 21:15:41 <santebi> FabianH eclipse ?
Dec 10 21:15:55 <FabianH> android studio
Dec 10 21:15:57 <FabianH> not eclipse
Dec 10 21:16:47 <FabianH> i'm freaking out
Dec 10 21:17:43 <santebi> in eclipse it's under Window->Preferences->Android, it might be the same in android studio as it's based on eclipse
Dec 10 21:18:16 <g00s> FabianH go to file -> close project
Dec 10 21:18:17 <SimonVT> AS isn't based on eclipse
Dec 10 21:18:32 <santebi> SimonVT ok grandson of eclipse :)
Dec 10 21:18:41 <g00s> FabianH then go to configure -> project defaults
Dec 10 21:18:44 <RxDx> santebi, is this a stacktrace? http://pastebin.com/sVR5JMum
Dec 10 21:18:47 <dcow> santebi: not even that
Dec 10 21:19:10 <g00s> Project Structure - set it there
Dec 10 21:19:14 <dcow> how can java have a c++ baby?
Dec 10 21:19:22 <santebi> isn't IDEA a fork of eclipse ?
Dec 10 21:19:30 <g00s> lol
Dec 10 21:19:35 <g00s> where did you get that idea
Dec 10 21:19:38 <g00s> IDEA
Dec 10 21:20:00 <FabianH> i defined the sdk path at platfrom settings sdk
Dec 10 21:20:07 <dcow> haha
Dec 10 21:20:41 <shigeru> is there anyw ay to tell proguard to not optimize only a certain class?
Dec 10 21:20:44 <shigeru> rather than the whole app
Dec 10 21:20:55 <shigeru> -dontoptimize seems to work on the whole app
Dec 10 21:21:21 <santebi> RxDx: you are trying to access the internet / networking on the main thread, try to use an asynctask for network connections as thsese are blocking operations
Dec 10 21:21:25 <FabianH> C:\Users\fabian>echo %ANDROID_HOME% D:\android developing\sdk
Dec 10 21:21:36 <RxDx> santebi, thanks :)
Dec 10 21:22:07 <f2prateek> echo reads a value
Dec 10 21:22:12 <f2prateek> export sets the value
Dec 10 21:23:06 <FabianH> export is for linux
Dec 10 21:23:21 <FabianH>  C:\Users\fabian>echo %ANDROID_HOME%
Dec 10 21:23:24 <FabianH> gave the output
Dec 10 21:23:26 <FabianH>  D:\android developing\sdk
Dec 10 21:24:04 <FabianH> i hate it -.-
Dec 10 21:31:39 <FabianH> i give the one that helps me a reward
Dec 10 21:31:52 <FabianH> a big cookie
Dec 10 21:35:32 <FabianH> ok i give you 2 cookies
Dec 10 21:35:38 <FabianH> last offer
Dec 10 21:35:40 <FabianH> i'm poor :P
Dec 10 21:36:07 <bankai_> how about a nice healthy apple
Dec 10 21:36:12 <FabianH> ok
Dec 10 21:36:17 <FabianH> only if you help me :P
Dec 10 21:36:54 <bankai_> with what
Dec 10 21:37:16 <FabianH> with android studio
Dec 10 21:37:27 <FabianH> gives me  android_home error
Dec 10 21:37:54 <bankai_> take the space out of the file path, certain things don't like that
Dec 10 21:37:59 <jonc> cookies or apples? I am going home and cooking burgers and corn on the grill
Dec 10 21:38:08 <FabianH> what you want
Dec 10 21:38:13 <FabianH> if you help me you get a steak :D
Dec 10 21:39:01 <FabianH> the spaces?
Dec 10 21:39:01 <jonc> It bothers me that there is still no nice way to close the keyboard
Dec 10 21:39:12 <FabianH> daaay, then i have to change everything..
Dec 10 21:39:24 <FabianH> *daayuum
Dec 10 21:39:26 <Eeeeeee> fabianh google is your friend
Dec 10 21:39:38 <FabianH> i googled like a stupid fish
Dec 10 21:39:44 <FabianH> like for hours..
Dec 10 21:40:17 <Eeeeeee> your google skills need improvement
Dec 10 21:40:54 <FabianH> so you give me a solution
Dec 10 21:40:57 <Eeeeeee> reread the documentation a couple more times, google a couple more times
Dec 10 21:41:01 <FabianH> and you get a medal
Dec 10 21:41:14 <FabianH> a gold medal
Dec 10 21:41:17 <FabianH> so just show me
Dec 10 21:41:28 <g00s> FabianH this is an intelligence test :)
Dec 10 21:41:31 <santebi> are you running studio from a shortcut ?
Dec 10 21:41:52 <Eeeeeee> maybe developing isn't for you
Dec 10 21:42:16 <FabianH> oh, wow, that really hurt
Dec 10 21:42:21 <FabianH> you want a diss battle now?
Dec 10 21:42:23 <FabianH> or smth
Dec 10 21:42:24 <FabianH> ok
Dec 10 21:42:29 <FabianH> but private please :)
Dec 10 21:42:41 <santebi> FabianH: you might be setting the environment locally (only for the terminal session), trying setting the variables in os settings
Dec 10 21:42:49 <Eeeeeee> not trying to be hurtful...
Dec 10 21:42:52 <FabianH> i did
Dec 10 21:43:02 <FabianH> i did it with ennvironment variables..
Dec 10 21:43:14 <santebi> under windows settings?
Dec 10 21:43:19 <FabianH> yes
Dec 10 21:44:10 <santebi> and another dummy question, have you tried to run the sdk manager ?
Dec 10 21:44:20 <FabianH> yes i did
Dec 10 21:44:25 <FabianH> i tried everything..
Dec 10 21:44:26 <f2prateek> local.properties overrides the ANDROID_HOME stuff so doesn't really matter
Dec 10 21:44:34 <santebi> and you installed the basic sdk tools ?
Dec 10 21:44:40 <FabianH> yes
Dec 10 21:44:49 <FabianH> i updated them too
Dec 10 21:44:56 <f2prateek> you still have a space in your sdk.dir path
Dec 10 21:45:13 <FabianH> my path has a space
Dec 10 21:45:14 <santebi> if it's an os wide env, can you try running an admin terminal and try to run studio from there
Dec 10 21:45:15 <jonc> sdk.dir is in local.properties correct?
Dec 10 21:45:25 <FabianH> yes
Dec 10 21:45:27 <f2prateek> use \ to escape the space
Dec 10 21:45:36 <jonc> delete the file and have android studio remake it
Dec 10 21:45:42 <Fisiu> Im using this selection http://pastebin.kde.org/pcscszudh/m4lbzq with cursor to get contacts list, but how can I exclude contacts which are on sim card(s)?
Dec 10 21:45:45 <f2prateek> like i said earlier - sdk.dir=D\:/android\ developing/sdk
Dec 10 21:45:47 <FabianH> tried that too :(
Dec 10 21:46:03 <FabianH> ok i'll try that
Dec 10 21:46:40 <Eeeeeee> why not start over from beginning following docs very closely
Dec 10 21:47:38 <FabianH> f2prateek
Dec 10 21:47:43 <FabianH> i think..
Dec 10 21:47:46 <FabianH> it may..
Dec 10 21:47:53 <FabianH> Could not find property 'VERSION_NAME' on project ':datetimepicker-library'.
Dec 10 21:47:57 <shmooz> if you visit my website it will give you a cookie
Dec 10 21:48:02 <FabianH> i really love that shit -.-
Dec 10 21:48:15 <Eeeeeee> Fabian uninstall android studio and use eclipse
Dec 10 21:48:22 <FabianH> i'm using eclipse..
Dec 10 21:48:47 <FabianH> i'm currently working with eclipse.. but i want to try android studio ..
Dec 10 21:48:56 <Eeeeeee> don't
Dec 10 21:49:22 <FabianH> Could not find property 'VERSION_NAME'
Dec 10 21:49:22 <Eeeeeee> wait for it to be out of preview
Dec 10 21:49:32 <FabianH> if you help me fix that, you get all cookies
Dec 10 21:49:56 <Eeeeeee> want us to write the code for you as well?
Dec 10 21:50:14 <FabianH> if you want to
Dec 10 21:50:15 <shmooz> yes and compile and sell it too
Dec 10 21:51:04 <FabianH> you are so nice!
Dec 10 21:51:06 <FabianH> thank you :)
Dec 10 21:51:16 <FabianH> compiling would be nice
Dec 10 21:51:19 <FabianH> -.-
Dec 10 21:53:49 <FabianH> http://www.ahrens.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Cookie.jpg
Dec 10 21:53:56 <FabianH> for those wo helped me :)
Dec 10 21:54:03 <Eeeeeee> alt + f4 for private message, and i will help
Dec 10 21:55:01 <FabianH> oh wow
Dec 10 21:55:14 <FabianH> better start your career as comedian
Dec 10 21:56:12 <Schalla> I made a entry to my strings.xml and would like to access it like android:entries="@string/entries", I have to reference it somehow in the main.xml?
Dec 10 22:00:23 <Schalla> android:entries="@string/entries">
Dec 10 22:00:26 <Schalla> or that's notvalid?
Dec 10 22:02:23 <Arkky> Hello, I am trying to set a progress bar visible in a fragment (using a Handler) but it stay invisible), could someone help me please ? :) http://pastebin.com/g7p31Jpp
Dec 10 22:03:23 <f2prateek> where are you chanign the progress abrs visibility?
Dec 10 22:03:32 <f2prateek> just saw it nvm
Dec 10 22:04:09 <f2prateek> line 11 and 17 are referencing different id's
Dec 10 22:04:36 <Arkky> yeah I've just changed it, deleting a few line in my pastebin that's all
Dec 10 22:05:48 <Arkky> I arrive well in my handlemessage function, there is a Log.v inside which tells me that
Dec 10 22:07:24 <g00s> holy crap. textual 4.0 is out
Dec 10 22:11:16 <shigeru> g00s any new interestring changes?
Dec 10 22:12:27 <Schalla> Anyone may help me regarding my starting problem?
Dec 10 22:14:07 <evanc> Schalla: did you try the code you posted?
Dec 10 22:14:16 <Schalla> Sure I did, else I would not ask.
Dec 10 22:14:30 <Schalla> That would be pretty unpolite.
Dec 10 22:15:01 <evanc> you asked "or that's notvalid?" which implies that you didn't try it. Anyway, could you post the relevant bit(s) of your strings.xml and your main.xml?
Dec 10 22:15:13 <evanc> http://pastebin.com/
Dec 10 22:15:47 <Schalla> http://pastebin.com/4jJ5gwKb
Dec 10 22:15:47 <Schalla> Thanks.
Dec 10 22:16:02 <Schalla> evanc: Sometimes things are valid but there is a problem with the setup e.g.
Dec 10 22:16:21 <Schalla> So I came up with the question if it's valid
Dec 10 22:16:44 <evanc> your pastebin has a backslash
Dec 10 22:16:55 <evanc> @string\entries is most certainly not valid
Dec 10 22:17:24 <Schalla> oh sorry, that's a typo. Also tried with /
Dec 10 22:17:41 <Schalla> IntelliJ marks as symbol not found, compiler also fails.
Dec 10 22:20:08 <evanc> oh, duh: @array/entries
Dec 10 22:21:02 <Schalla> Oh. I thought the string makes a reference to the strings.xml and not to the type :/ Thanks evanc.
Dec 10 22:24:58 <kript> hi
Dec 10 22:26:01 <kript> how i grab graph.facebook.com i have error json
Dec 10 22:28:08 <DOSP> Guys, how to solve this error ? I always do something wrong http://pastebin.com/8DmGVrAw , thanks
Dec 10 22:28:15 <kript> i use http://pastebin.com/WJPhjR54
Dec 10 22:28:19 <kript> i have json error
Dec 10 22:29:08 <JesusFreke> That has no JSON parsing code at all.
Dec 10 22:29:55 <JesusFreke> I would debug the app and look at the actual value of result
Dec 10 22:30:16 <JesusFreke> if it's invalid, you should be able to see what is wrong with it
Dec 10 22:30:27 <kript> JesusFreke,  you speak at me ?
Dec 10 22:30:28 <JesusFreke> and if it's not invalid, then you know your json parsing logic is wrong
Dec 10 22:30:28 <kript> after json ?
Dec 10 22:30:32 <JesusFreke> yes.
Dec 10 22:30:45 <kript> not json error sorry
Dec 10 22:30:50 <kript> {"error":{"message":"An access token is required to request this resource.","type":"OAuthException","code":104}}
Dec 10 22:31:13 <JesusFreke> sounds like you need to authenticate first
Dec 10 22:31:32 <JesusFreke> If it's an official facebook api, then consult facebook's documentation
Dec 10 22:31:41 <JesusFreke> otherwise, you're on your own to figure it out :)
Dec 10 22:32:03 <kript> because user enter name facebook.com/name
Dec 10 22:32:20 <kript> i get name and grab ID
Dec 10 22:32:23 <f2prateek> do you have an oauth token?
Dec 10 22:32:27 <kript> for go on facebook page
Dec 10 22:33:15 <kript> if you are not log on facebook work ..
Dec 10 22:33:22 <kript> https://graph.facebook.com/name
Dec 10 22:33:39 <kript> test https://graph.facebook.com/facebook
Dec 10 22:35:04 <JesusFreke> kript: try using a GET instead of a POST
Dec 10 22:35:40 <f2prateek> ^^
Dec 10 22:41:42 <canadiancow> how would view.getLayoutParams() return null if view is in a listview?
Dec 10 22:41:46 <kript> thx
Dec 10 22:42:17 <ColinTheShots> is there a good solution to handle code logic for unattached fragments or do I just have to sprinkle my entire codebase with checks that the fragment is still attached before doing anything?
Dec 10 22:42:25 <charco> hi! The preferred class to represent Dates in android is Calendar? JodaTime? DateTime?
Dec 10 22:44:17 <theblang> charco I use DateTime from jodatime atm
Dec 10 22:44:42 <charco> Ok, thanks theblang :)
Dec 10 22:46:01 <theblang> If I want to create a "Master" Activity, that all my activities will inherit from, and that will set up stuff like my Navigation Drawer, what is the proper way to do it?
Dec 10 22:48:18 <evanc> theblang: public class SomeOtherActivity extends MasterActivity { /* this is for you to fill in */ }
Dec 10 22:48:40 <theblang> evanc right, but the trouble I am having is how to setup my layouts
Dec 10 22:49:28 <charco> Does anyone know of good android tutorial videos?
Dec 10 22:51:15 <ech0s7> charco: youtube ?
Dec 10 22:53:39 <eghdk> Hey guys, I created a custom text view, it draws a purple square, and now I want to use it in my xml. I put my text in it, but my text shows up beneath the purple square. Ideas?
Dec 10 22:55:04 <JesusFreke> eghdk: I assume you overriding onDraw and calling super.onDraw()?
Dec 10 22:55:24 <JesusFreke> if so.. draw your purple box before calling super.onDraw()..
Dec 10 22:55:57 <JesusFreke> oh, wait. which meaning of "beneath" did you mean there?
Dec 10 22:56:13 <JesusFreke> vertically beneath, or covered by?
Dec 10 22:58:31 <eghdk> The box is covering the text
Dec 10 22:58:51 <eghdk> I can see some letters peaking out from under the box.
Dec 10 22:59:08 <eghdk> under the box = below the box.
Dec 10 23:01:04 <JesusFreke> yeah, then call super.onDraw after drawing the box, assuming that's how you're doing it.
Dec 10 23:01:27 <eghdk> moved super.onDraw down after drawing on canvas, as per your suggestion and it works now.
Dec 10 23:01:31 <eghdk> Thanks very much.
Dec 10 23:08:23 <eghdk> JesusFreke: Any idea why my text wont center?
Dec 10 23:09:00 <eghdk> Basically, I have a square, and my text consists of a single Letter. Let's say "J", but it's not being centered…
Dec 10 23:09:01 <JesusFreke> eghdk: nope :)
Dec 10 23:13:28 <g00s> wow, installing textual 4 was a mistake :(
Dec 10 23:14:59 <explodes> With Parse, does query.include('whatever') make the query then require 'whatever' to not be null?
Dec 10 23:22:14 <desmin88> eghdk: the text isnt centered in the textview?
Dec 10 23:34:45 <ech0s7> why running
Dec 10 23:34:46 <ech0s7> ./arm-linux-androideabi-nm -an /Volumes/android/SOURCES/out/target/product/generic/system/bin/app_process
Dec 10 23:34:56 <ech0s7> i get no symbols
Dec 10 23:34:57 <ech0s7>  ?
Dec 10 23:35:43 <desmin88> lol
Dec 10 23:36:49 <hawkal> Excuse my ignorance but why does the sdk emulator have to emulate hardware that's running under a vm? (it's soo slow)  Surely it's only really necessary for testing native apps?
Dec 10 23:41:37 <desmin88> hawkal: hardware running under a vm?
Dec 10 23:44:30 <hawkal> desmin88: Yes I mean if the virtual machine is a point of abstraction from the device hardware then why emulate it (e.g arm/x86 atom emulator)? Why not just provide a vm that can run on host machines x86/x86_64?
Dec 10 23:46:07 <desmin88> umm
Dec 10 23:46:11 <desmin88> that made little sense
Dec 10 23:47:01 <|0xD34D|> hawkal: there are x86 images
Dec 10 23:47:14 <|0xD34D|> not for 4.4 yet but lower APIs have them
Dec 10 23:47:39 <hawkal> Is it possible to use them for testing?
Dec 10 23:47:41 <desmin88> |0xD34D|, i was initially thinking along those lines but he mentioned x86 images.
Dec 10 23:47:52 <|0xD34D|> I use them when possible
Dec 10 23:47:54 <desmin88> which had me confused
Dec 10 23:47:57 <|0xD34D|> and if need be
Dec 10 23:48:16 <desmin88> Technically, ARM is emulated, and the x86 images are 'virtualized'
Dec 10 23:48:26 <hawkal> ok
Dec 10 23:48:30 <desmin88> |0xD34D|, also api 19 has the x86 images
Dec 10 23:48:44 <|0xD34D|> desmin88: oh they have them up now?
Dec 10 23:48:51 <desmin88> yup
Dec 10 23:49:14 <|0xD34D|> luckily I have a device running 4.4 but I might as well download them now just to have
Dec 10 23:49:49 <desmin88> or use genymotion
Dec 10 23:50:49 <desmin88> i still dont know what hawkal means lol
Dec 10 23:50:58 <|0xD34D|> don't see 4.4 in their list of images in the cloud
Dec 10 23:51:12 <desmin88> 'the cloud'
Dec 10 23:51:16 <|0xD34D|> at least not via their gui front end
Dec 10 23:51:26 <desmin88> http://gyazo.com/4003db43c961a8dd63aee1c1c1e79bdb
Dec 10 23:51:32 <|0xD34D|> yes "Virtual device available from the Genymotion Cloud"
Dec 10 23:51:39 <desmin88> oh
Dec 10 23:53:19 <BrutusBoots> Hey All.. I have pulled the AOSP code (tag: android-4.4_r1.2) and am compiling file via make.  I want to get everything loaded in Eclipse (Indigo) so I copied the .classpath file from /development/ide/eclipse to the root of my source folder and created a new java project based on my source path.
Dec 10 23:53:52 <BrutusBoots> All the projects seemed to load fine, however I'm getting a lot of build errors (http://pastebin.com/0zLBtUGh) related to missing references
Dec 10 23:53:57 <|0xD34D|> 4.4.1_r1 or gtfo :P
Dec 10 23:53:59 <|0xD34D|> j/k
Dec 10 23:54:10 <BrutusBoots> this is my .classpath - http://pastebin.com/9YmDWrFZ
Dec 10 23:54:23 <BrutusBoots> can anyone help me out?
Dec 10 23:55:00 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: haha
Dec 10 23:55:40 <BrutusBoots> if I modify my build path I can find some of the missing refs in 'out/target/common/obj/JAVA_LIBRARIES/'
Dec 10 23:55:57 <BrutusBoots> but shouldn't it build fine using the provided .classpath ?
Dec 10 23:56:05 <|0xD34D|> I could never get that to work right when I tried it
Dec 10 23:56:29 <hawkal> Thanks desmin88 and |0xD34D|
Dec 10 23:56:36 <BrutusBoots> I'd love to be able to debug in an IDE
Dec 10 23:56:43 <|0xD34D|> I use intelliJ to import AOSP projects to make use of some of the features it offers and to debug but never to build
Dec 10 23:57:07 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: whoa.... wait
Dec 10 23:57:12 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: I can use IDEA?
Dec 10 23:57:16 <|0xD34D|> I do
Dec 10 23:57:17 <BrutusBoots> and debug?
Dec 10 23:57:21 <BrutusBoots> oh snap
Dec 10 23:57:22 <|0xD34D|> sure
Dec 10 23:57:25 <BrutusBoots> <3 IDEA
Dec 10 23:57:25 <|0xD34D|> that's what I use
Dec 10 23:57:29 <BrutusBoots> don't like Eclipse
Dec 10 23:57:41 <|0xD34D|> I just use import project and import what I want to work on
Dec 10 23:57:46 <|0xD34D|> for example, SystemUI
Dec 10 23:57:53 <|0xD34D|> I even imported all of frameworks/base
Dec 10 23:58:00 <BrutusBoots> interesting
Dec 10 23:58:03 <|0xD34D|> and I can attach to system_process to debug services
Dec 10 23:58:22 <|0xD34D|> you can set breakpoints and inspect variables and all that jazz
Dec 10 23:58:35 <|0xD34D|> it sure beats spamming logcat
Dec 10 23:58:45 <BrutusBoots> you gonna be here for a few if I give this a go?
Dec 10 23:59:01 <|0xD34D|> I'm in and out but just ping me
Dec 10 23:59:20 <|0xD34D|> I use ZNC so I'm always on even when away from the screen
Dec 10 23:59:59 <BrutusBoots> ok cool.  Installing IDEA on my VM right now
Dec 11 00:01:15 <BrutusBoots> I just noticed there's an initellij folder in development/ide
Dec 11 00:01:22 <BrutusBoots> worth using anything in there?
Dec 11 00:04:37 <|0xD34D|> I'm inspecting it now as a matter of fact
Dec 11 00:04:56 <|0xD34D|> setting up a shadow of my build directory so I don't screw anything up
Dec 11 00:07:06 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16582112/aosp-and-intellij-idea
Dec 11 00:07:22 <BrutusBoots> wish they had a readme or something in that folder
Dec 11 00:07:35 <|0xD34D|> I don't have ideagen.sh
Dec 11 00:07:58 <|0xD34D|> *idegen.sh
Dec 11 00:10:24 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: there's a similar script in tools
Dec 11 00:12:06 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: development/tools/idegen
Dec 11 00:12:30 <|0xD34D|> "Couldn't find idegen.jar. Please run make first."
Dec 11 00:12:38 <|0xD34D|> even though I've recently built the damn ROM
Dec 11 00:12:44 <BrutusBoots> lol
Dec 11 00:14:31 <|0xD34D|> but there is an Android.mk in there so I made it
Dec 11 00:14:56 <BrutusBoots> let me know if you figure anything out
Dec 11 00:15:25 <|0xD34D|> will do, it finished so time to see start up idea again and set it up
Dec 11 00:16:44 <JesusFreke> |0xD34D|: how are you running idegen.sh? iirc, you need to run it from the root of the android build tree
Dec 11 00:17:00 <|0xD34D|> correct
Dec 11 00:17:11 <|0xD34D|> ./development/tools/idegen/idegen.sh
Dec 11 00:17:23 <|0xD34D|> from the root of AOSP or whatever ROM I am using :P
Dec 11 00:17:46 <|0xD34D|> it created the android.ipr project file
Dec 11 00:18:12 <|0xD34D|> and intellij is currently loading and indexing
Dec 11 00:18:21 <JesusFreke> ah, yeah. sonuds like you have it working
Dec 11 00:18:29 <JesusFreke> but yeah, that first index run... takes a while :)
Dec 11 00:18:35 <|0xD34D|> I can imagine
Dec 11 00:18:55 <JesusFreke> I usually try to strip down the set of projects it includes in the project
Dec 11 00:19:13 <|0xD34D|> normally I just import the projects I want to work on
Dec 11 00:19:26 <|0xD34D|> a system app most of the time or possibly frameworks/base
Dec 11 00:19:36 <JesusFreke> Yeah, it's just a pain figuring out the set of projects you need, to be able to resolve all the dependencies
Dec 11 00:19:59 <|0xD34D|> I usually don't worry about dependencies since I build from the command line
Dec 11 00:20:10 <|0xD34D|> it's more to make use of the IDE features and debugging
Dec 11 00:20:14 <JesusFreke> But but but, the red squigglies! :)
Dec 11 00:20:32 <|0xD34D|> I work on a hercules monochrome monitor
Dec 11 00:20:43 <JesusFreke> The grey squigglies! :)
Dec 11 00:20:48 <JesusFreke> or white, I guess.
Dec 11 00:20:49 <|0xD34D|> amber squigglies!
Dec 11 00:21:01 <|0xD34D|> amber everything!
Dec 11 00:22:04 <|0xD34D|> ~45% indexed \o/
Dec 11 00:22:54 <hwrd|work> Does anyone know if google has open sourced the libraries it uses for licensing dialogs in their apps?
Dec 11 00:24:11 <JesusFreke> hwrd|work: you mean http://developer.android.com/google/play/licensing/index.html ?
Dec 11 00:25:54 <hwrd|work> JesusFreke: Nah I mean like this: http://cl.ly/image/0G051N321i0A
Dec 11 00:26:04 <JesusFreke> ahh
Dec 11 00:26:33 <JesusFreke> I would guess you can probably find the source somewhere in AOSP, but not positive.
Dec 11 00:26:57 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: so it's still going?
Dec 11 00:27:03 <hwrd|work> JesusFreke: Yeah that's a good idea I'll dig around in there
Dec 11 00:27:26 <|0xD34D|> BrutusBoots: it just finished up
Dec 11 00:28:26 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: that'd be sweet if it loaded up
Dec 11 00:28:32 <zzxx> Hello, What is the non-support library version of a FragmentActivity?
Dec 11 00:30:48 <f2prateek> Activity?
Dec 11 00:31:09 <evanc> zzxx: FragmentActivity
Dec 11 00:31:50 <evanc> oh wait, duh; f2prateek is correct
Dec 11 00:32:01 <zzxx> evanc: Android Studio does not seem to recognise it unless... ah yes. ok
Dec 11 00:32:10 <zzxx> i figgured that might be the case
Dec 11 00:32:15 <zzxx> but was not sure
Dec 11 00:32:24 <zzxx> Im still new and learning. thanks
Dec 11 00:32:37 <|0xD34D|> BrutusBoots: it seems to be working, no "red squigglies" on hidden API classes and methods
Dec 11 00:32:57 <|0xD34D|> even for stuff I added to the framework so it seems good to go thus far
Dec 11 00:33:04 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: awesome
Dec 11 00:33:16 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: trying it now
Dec 11 00:35:22 <BrutusBoots> so once idegen is done, start idea and import project?
Dec 11 00:36:07 <Eviltechie> Soooo, push notifications. I was reading this http://developer.android.com/google/gcm/gs.html, but then when I opened the sdk manager it said the cloud stuff was deprecated
Dec 11 00:36:18 <|0xD34D|> BrutusBoots: just choose open project
Dec 11 00:36:27 <|0xD34D|> it creates a project file in the root named android.ipr
Dec 11 00:36:30 <BrutusBoots> gotcha
Dec 11 00:37:18 <CocoStorm> Hey guys, are there any good android testing tutorials? Apart from the docs of course
Dec 11 00:37:24 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: idegen is putting a beating on my VM lol
Dec 11 00:37:49 <|0xD34D|> you are using a VM, what do you expect :P
Dec 11 00:38:10 <|0xD34D|> mine took a little over 12 seconds
Dec 11 00:38:12 <|0xD34D|> Traversed tree: 12424ms
Dec 11 00:38:40 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: this laptop is an i7 w/16GB of RAM.. I should just dual boot
Dec 11 00:39:02 <BrutusBoots> Traversed tree: 221319ms
Dec 11 00:39:04 <BrutusBoots> lol
Dec 11 00:39:31 <|0xD34D|> just wait until you open it in IDEA and it starts indexing
Dec 11 00:39:50 <Eviltechie> Where are the current docs for google's push notification stuff?
Dec 11 00:40:14 <JesusFreke> http://developer.android.com/google/gcm/index.html
Dec 11 00:40:49 <Eviltechie> JesusFreke: I thought it was moved into google play services. Is that still current?
Dec 11 00:41:21 <JesusFreke> Eviltechie: that is current, afaik. It used to be c2dm when it was in beta, but then was changed to gcm when it was officially released
Dec 11 00:42:23 <Eviltechie> JesusFreke: The sdk manager says "[Deprecated] Google Cloud Messaging for Android Library"
Dec 11 00:42:33 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: shoot.  I didn't increase idea's default ram settings... wonder when this will bomb
Dec 11 00:43:03 <CocoStorm> Hey guys, are there any good android testing tutorials? Apart from the docs of course
Dec 11 00:43:23 <bankai_> there's some great vids on junit, CocoStorm , have you seen those?
Dec 11 00:43:26 <|0xD34D|> BrutusBoots: after an hour
Dec 11 00:43:29 <JesusFreke> Eviltechie: http://developer.android.com/google/gcm/gs.html mentions that you need the google play services SDK
Dec 11 00:43:41 <CocoStorm> bankai_, they are basically the same thing?
Dec 11 00:43:59 <JesusFreke> so it sounds like it's a part of the play services stuff, and the GCM-only jar is deprecated
Dec 11 00:44:09 <JesusFreke> but that's still the correct documentation :)
Dec 11 00:44:24 <JesusFreke> and it's still called, GCM, etc.
Dec 11 00:44:42 <Eviltechie> I swear I just saw something that said download the gcm thing
Dec 11 00:45:06 <bankai_> CocoStorm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEhu57pih5w
Dec 11 00:45:27 <bankai_> and espresso http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7ugmCuNxDU
Dec 11 00:45:44 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: lol
Dec 11 00:46:03 * Eviltechie shrugs
Dec 11 00:47:19 <CocoStorm> bankai_, thanks
Dec 11 00:47:53 <mea> hello I have a simple question: is it possible to open another app from your own app but then manipulate the other app e.g. simulating clicking?
Dec 11 00:48:07 <bankai_> also, if you're interested, there's a good vid on (square)dagger dep injection
Dec 11 00:49:14 <_Auron_> mea: unless you have root, which I don't know how much that'd help if at all, or the other app has receivers to take external app input, no.
Dec 11 00:49:48 <bankai_> i wonder if you can manipulate espresso to do that :S i doubt it, but it'd be an interesting experiment
Dec 11 00:50:11 <mea> _Auron_: I have a 1st gen Nexus 7 so i could theoretically get root access ?
Dec 11 00:50:36 <mea> I don't intend to have this be an externally available app - its more of an experiment yeah
Dec 11 00:51:04 <charco> Hi, I have a noob question here :P
Dec 11 00:51:12 <JesusFreke> mea: I believe you can send keyboard/mouse input via adb (even without root)
Dec 11 00:51:48 <charco> I have an application, that has 2 activities, I don't know why, but its textViews and EditTexts are saved upon configuration changes (screen rotate). And I have another app which doesn't save the status of textViews and EditTexts
Dec 11 00:52:09 <charco> I have checked the manifest and the views and I can't find what's the difference between the apps :/
Dec 11 00:52:22 <JesusFreke> mea: but you can't access adb from an application on-device of course, that would only be from a script or something running on a machine that the phone is connected to
Dec 11 00:52:23 <charco> (I don't do any saving)
Dec 11 00:52:50 <mea> JesusFreke: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4386449/send-touch-event-from-adb-to-a-device this is probably what I want, yeah?
Dec 11 00:52:59 <charco> Any ideas?
Dec 11 00:53:03 <JesusFreke> mea: sounds right :)
Dec 11 00:53:07 <bankai_> espresso does this, mea
Dec 11 00:53:26 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: you were't kidding.  this index is going to take a while
Dec 11 00:53:30 <bankai_> also the uiautomator
Dec 11 00:53:59 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: so I loaded the userdebug build of the rom on my device.  What's the procedure to attach the debugger in idea?
Dec 11 00:54:26 <_Auron_> ah adb works too
Dec 11 00:55:04 <mea> adb seems simplest
Dec 11 00:55:18 <mea> just gotta find the right coordinates and write a bash script
Dec 11 00:55:51 <|0xD34D|> BrutusBoots: in the upper right there should be an icon that looks like a device with a bug in the bottom left corner of it
Dec 11 00:56:07 <bankai_> haha yeah specifying something by id/description is pretty hard, hardcoded touch locations is 'much' easier -_-#
Dec 11 00:56:08 <|0xD34D|> that lets you attach the debugger to an android process
Dec 11 00:59:58 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: ok.  So you didn't have to create and debug configurations or anything?  Do you have any android tools installed?
Dec 11 01:00:24 <|0xD34D|> I never create any configurations, just attach and go
Dec 11 01:02:44 <|0xD34D|> BrutusBoots: http://i.minus.com/ibwiWAT4KkpIP5.png
Dec 11 01:03:31 <|0xD34D|> I do seem to need to have an android SDK associated with the project in order to attach the debugger
Dec 11 01:03:46 <charco> I have an application, that has 2 activities, I don't know why, but its textViews and EditTexts are saved upon configuration changes (screen rotate). And I have another app which doesn't save the status of textViews and EditTexts
Dec 11 01:03:55 <|0xD34D|> I went with API 19 from the sdk and from there I can attach to my process just fine
Dec 11 01:06:43 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: I don't have the debug icon.. you sure you didn't install any android tools previously on your copy of idea?
Dec 11 01:07:02 <|0xD34D|> yeah I already had that stuff setup, sorry
Dec 11 01:07:06 <|0xD34D|> I use it for app dev too
Dec 11 01:07:22 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: oh, you know what... maybe mine will show up once it finishes indexing
Dec 11 01:07:42 <BrutusBoots> I'll probably just have to point my ide at the sdk
Dec 11 01:08:53 <|0xD34D|> "Create a JDK configuration named "1.6 (No Libraries)" by adding a new JDK like you normally would and then removing all of the jar entries under the "Classpath" tab. This will ensure that you only get access to Android's core libraries and not those from your desktop VM."
Dec 11 01:09:03 <BrutusBoots> ok
Dec 11 01:09:13 <|0xD34D|> that's from the README in idegen
Dec 11 01:10:59 <Gentoon> Hello world, I am a noob and am reading about buttons and aligning.
Dec 11 01:11:34 <Gentoon> I am in my fragment_main.xml and inside of a <Button .. />
Dec 11 01:11:52 <charco> I don't know. I have two EditText in my Activity, rotate the screen and they aren't deleted :S
Dec 11 01:12:05 <Gentoon> Anyways I am messing with android:layout_gravity
Dec 11 01:13:30 <Gentoon> but no matter if I do center, center_horizontal or center_vertical I can not get my button centered in the middle horizontally?
Dec 11 01:13:55 <Gentoon> android:layout_gravity="center_horizontal"
Dec 11 01:13:57 <bankai_> Gentoon: without the back story and all the fluff, what's your question ?
Dec 11 01:14:19 <Gentoon> You need the backstory or my question wouldnt make sense
Dec 11 01:14:34 <Gentoon> I have been using IRC for help for 8 years, please don't tell me how to ask a question.
Dec 11 01:14:51 <bankai_> obviously you didn't learn anything in those 8 years then
Dec 11 01:15:10 <Gentoon> I learned to ignore trolls with no knowledge to help me, just like this.
Dec 11 01:15:14 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: I bet that explains why the provided eclipse .classpath is out of date... probably supposed to use idegen instead
Dec 11 01:15:37 <Gentoon> If I wouldn't have give the "Back story" my question would not have made sense, genius.
Dec 11 01:15:51 <|0xD34D|> most likely and the fact all the searches online reference the old way
Dec 11 01:16:48 <|0xD34D|> anyhow I'd rather use IDEA than Eclipse
Dec 11 01:17:24 <BrutusBoots> me too
Dec 11 01:17:34 <Gentoon> Long story short
Dec 11 01:17:35 <BrutusBoots> I think even google is starting to see the light
Dec 11 01:18:00 <Gentoon> http://pastey.org/view/7562586c
Dec 11 01:18:10 <Gentoon> Here is the xml for my button
Dec 11 01:18:21 <Gentoon> but it is not centered in the middle of the screen
Dec 11 01:18:26 <Gentoon> Any idea why?
Dec 11 01:18:52 <f2prateek> what's the parent view?
Dec 11 01:19:05 <Gentoon> ?
Dec 11 01:19:18 <Gentoon> That is all the code for the button
Dec 11 01:19:52 <f2prateek> and is the button in a frame/linear/relative layout?
Dec 11 01:20:04 <Gentoon> Linear
Dec 11 01:20:23 <f2prateek> xml for that?
Dec 11 01:21:34 <Gentoon> f2prateek: http://pastey.org/view/ef05a459
Dec 11 01:21:47 <Gentoon> It is a fragment, since that is default for AS now.
Dec 11 01:24:42 <Gentoon> Do I have to manually center it by defining a left layout margin?
Dec 11 01:24:52 <f2prateek> Try FrameLayout insted of LinearLayout
Dec 11 01:25:07 <f2prateek> I'n blanking on how to center in the linear layout for now
Dec 11 01:25:48 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: almost done indexing!
Dec 11 01:25:58 <Gentoon> the totorial I am following hasnt taught me anything but linear layout..
Dec 11 01:26:00 <|0xD34D|> ...CRASH
Dec 11 01:26:20 <f2prateek> oh, specify android:orientation="horizontal" for the linear layout
Dec 11 01:26:23 <Gentoon> I'd rather keep with a Linear layout
Dec 11 01:26:46 <Gentoon> Weird, why do none of these tutorials tell me these things?
Dec 11 01:26:54 <Gentoon> Especially the one from google itself?
Dec 11 01:27:08 <f2prateek> maybe they didn't need it centered
Dec 11 01:27:27 <Gentoon> They center it in the tutorial
Dec 11 01:27:33 <Gentoon> With the exact code I posted
Dec 11 01:27:45 <Gentoon> Oh well, I will just use a margin I guess
Dec 11 01:27:58 <Gentoon> Tht just wont adjust to different resolutions though
Dec 11 01:28:10 <charco> Ok, I don't know what's happening. Why on earth does an EditText mantains it value after a rotate (or any other onDestroy method)? I don't do any explicit saving neither do I set the values on the manifest to avoid persisting values on rotate.
Dec 11 01:28:24 <|0xD34D|> Gentoon: try using android:layout_gravity="center"
Dec 11 01:28:34 <|0xD34D|> or is it just android:gravity ?
Dec 11 01:28:40 <f2prateek> Gentoon: what happened with  android:orientation="horizontal" ?
Dec 11 01:28:46 <Gentoon> gravity is just for the text
Dec 11 01:28:52 <f2prateek> android:gravity is for centering text within the textview itself
Dec 11 01:28:55 <Gentoon> f2prateek: Nothing
Dec 11 01:29:01 <|0xD34D|> Gentoon: use layout_gravity for the button
Dec 11 01:29:17 <Gentoon> I am
Dec 11 01:29:19 <charco> please help :(
Dec 11 01:29:20 <f2prateek> Gentoon: sorry vertical
Dec 11 01:29:31 <f2prateek> ndroid:orientation="vertical"
Dec 11 01:29:33 <Gentoon> I don't want Vertical?
Dec 11 01:29:49 <Gentoon> Vertical is up and down
Dec 11 01:29:56 <|0xD34D|> you do if you want things in the layout stacked on top of one another
Dec 11 01:30:30 <Gentoon> |0xD34D|: Please scroll up and read everything, you are suggesting things I have already explained I have tried. Thanks.
Dec 11 01:30:46 <f2prateek> Gentoon: try it first
Dec 11 01:30:48 <|0xD34D|> calm your titties
Dec 11 01:30:52 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: don't jinx me hah
Dec 11 01:30:58 <bankai_> Gentoon: http://pastebin.com/XEFhwbhR works fine
Dec 11 01:31:00 <Gentoon> I am calm.
Dec 11 01:31:21 <|0xD34D|> it may help if you pastebin your entire layout and not just one snippet in the future
Dec 11 01:31:28 <Gentoon> I did
Dec 11 01:31:31 <Gentoon> If you read
Dec 11 01:31:44 <Gentoon> Please don't "Help" anymore.
Dec 11 01:31:48 <|0xD34D|> I see a link to button
Dec 11 01:31:58 <Gentoon> There is 2 lonks
Dec 11 01:32:01 <Gentoon> links
Dec 11 01:32:04 <|0xD34D|> damn those lonks
Dec 11 01:32:20 <Gentoon> Very clever.
Dec 11 01:33:25 <Gentoon> f2prateek:
Dec 11 01:33:28 <Gentoon> http://youropensource.com/projects/593-center-align-position-in-android-button
Dec 11 01:33:44 <Gentoon> There are only those 3 options in everything I search in google.
Dec 11 01:34:13 <f2prateek> use orientation="vertical" in the linear layout
Dec 11 01:34:42 <Gentoon> I have one element.. Why does vertical alignment matter?
Dec 11 01:35:22 <Gentoon> and where does that code go?
Dec 11 01:35:28 <Gentoon> in the parent or in the button?
Dec 11 01:35:36 <|0xD34D|> because you are using wrap_content for the button width
Dec 11 01:35:39 <Gentoon> cause either place the IDE doesnt liek it
Dec 11 01:35:49 <f2prateek> http://pastebin.com/RxGWevbV
Dec 11 01:35:50 <|0xD34D|> it will only size it to match the content and be aligned on the left
Dec 11 01:36:20 <Gentoon> |0xD34D|: That makes no sense, f2prateek Thanks.
Dec 11 01:36:21 <f2prateek> Gentoon: that's wrong sorry, this is right http://pastebin.com/HJ2z84H0
Dec 11 01:36:27 <Gentoon> Ok thx
Dec 11 01:36:31 <|0xD34D|> if you do what f2prateek has suggested with the orientation you will be closer to the desired results
Dec 11 01:37:12 <Gentoon> |0xD34D|: Please just stop, you don't even understand what is happening. I am being helped, thanks for your efforts.
Dec 11 01:37:21 <|0xD34D|> actually I do understand
Dec 11 01:37:29 <|0xD34D|> and don't tell me to stop, you can use /ignore right?
Dec 11 01:37:32 <bankai_> |0xD34D|: wow man, kick in the balls ...
Dec 11 01:37:33 <|0xD34D|> try it if you are being distracted
Dec 11 01:37:51 <|0xD34D|> bankai_: ikr
Dec 11 01:38:01 <Gentoon> try what?
Dec 11 01:38:10 <Gentoon> No one is distracted.
Dec 11 01:38:31 <Gentoon> You are a common internet troll, trying to annoy me or get some reaction.
Dec 11 01:38:43 <|0xD34D|> Actually no I am not, I've been in here helping
Dec 11 01:38:50 <Gentoon> helping who?
Dec 11 01:38:57 <|0xD34D|> BrutusBoots: where you at buddy
Dec 11 01:39:00 <Gentoon> You have provided zero help with anything.
Dec 11 01:39:23 <|0xD34D|> Gentoon: you have not been here long enough to even know that
Dec 11 01:39:25 <|0xD34D|> sorry bud
Dec 11 01:39:27 <Gentoon> f2prateek: Thanks you, that works.
Dec 11 01:39:32 <|0xD34D|> well no shit
Dec 11 01:39:39 <Gentoon> I have been here for 8 years.
Dec 11 01:39:41 <|0xD34D|> now go figure out why
Dec 11 01:39:47 <|0xD34D|> not in this channel
Dec 11 01:39:53 <Gentoon> well not this channel for 8 years
Dec 11 01:39:55 <|0xD34D|> and that's what I am referring too.  not IRC in general
Dec 11 01:40:00 <Gentoon> this channel for about 3
Dec 11 01:40:12 <Gentoon> Just stop.
Dec 11 01:40:18 <f2prateek> I can't quite explain in words why horizontal doesn't work so I won't really try, but maybe someone else can
Dec 11 01:40:19 <|0xD34D|> then scroll up and read up on my conversation with BrutusBoots
Dec 11 01:40:39 <Gentoon> Yeah, doesn't really makse sense to me haha.
Dec 11 01:40:44 <|0xD34D|> because views are added from left to right
Dec 11 01:40:56 <|0xD34D|> so you can center vertically
Dec 11 01:41:08 <|0xD34D|> but not horizontally, unless you match parent and add padding
Dec 11 01:41:32 <Gentoon> But that isn't what we did. So no.
Dec 11 01:41:33 <|0xD34D|> easier to go with the vertical orientation for the LL and set the layout_gravity
Dec 11 01:41:53 <|0xD34D|> looking at the paste from f2prateek it is
Dec 11 01:42:03 <|0xD34D|> android:orientation="vertical"
Dec 11 01:42:08 <|0xD34D|> android:layout_gravity="center_horizontal"
Dec 11 01:42:08 <Gentoon> we set the orientation to vertical
Dec 11 01:42:27 <bankai_> |0xD34D|: don't waste your time
Dec 11 01:42:38 <f2prateek> and when the button does wrap_content as it's width, the linear layout reserves the leftover space for other child views, so you can't center the button horizontally
Dec 11 01:42:40 <|0xD34D|> these old timers are crazy
Dec 11 01:42:49 <Gentoon> Yeah, you guys will make great friend.. go do eachother Regex or something
Dec 11 01:42:54 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: got everything loaded up in IDEA... just trying to figure out why I don't have an attach to debugger button
Dec 11 01:42:59 <Gentoon> just take it somewhere else
Dec 11 01:43:12 <|0xD34D|> BrutusBoots: you may need to add an android SDK
Dec 11 01:43:14 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: I added the android sdk and the java sdk like in the readme
Dec 11 01:43:36 <|0xD34D|> what about under Run in the menu?
Dec 11 01:43:44 <Gentoon> f2prateek: so if I just set the width of the button manually, I won't have to deal with all of this?
Dec 11 01:45:03 <|0xD34D|> BrutusBoots: I found that I need to actually use the android SDK (API 19) in order to debug and see my processes
Dec 11 01:45:05 <f2prateek> that will have the same effect, the left over space is used for other views so can't center horizontally (assuming parent linear layout has horizontal orientation)
Dec 11 01:45:18 <f2prateek> if you have only one child view, frame layout is probably better
Dec 11 01:45:19 <|0xD34D|> using the empty java6 jdk like in the readme does not work well for some reason
Dec 11 01:46:21 <Gentoon> f2prateek: Okay, thanks.
Dec 11 01:46:28 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: I think i'm attached!
Dec 11 01:46:36 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: let me try a breakpoint
Dec 11 01:47:37 <|0xD34D|> BrutusBoots: thank god your problem is soooooooooo much easier to solve than trying to get a Button centered in a LinearLayout :D
Dec 11 01:47:55 <bankai_> i knew you couldn't help yourself :P
Dec 11 01:48:01 <|0xD34D|> of course not
Dec 11 01:48:03 <|0xD34D|> :D
Dec 11 01:48:13 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: lol
Dec 11 01:53:22 <charco> Ok.. Please, anyone, help me :(. I have a TextView which isn't deleted on OnDestroy. And I have another app that has another TextView which gets destroyed on onDestroy(). I don't do any saving of the contents of the TextView in neither of the apps. Why can this happen? Any idea?
Dec 11 01:54:37 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: I'm debugging!  sweet
Dec 11 01:54:44 <|0xD34D|> awesome
Dec 11 01:54:52 <|0xD34D|> a lot better that way
Dec 11 01:55:01 <BrutusBoots> def
Dec 11 01:55:25 <BrutusBoots> so if I have an app that I wrote and I want to debug it in this environment, what's the easiest way?
Dec 11 01:55:32 <BrutusBoots> import my app into this project?
Dec 11 01:55:41 <|0xD34D|> is it a system app?
Dec 11 01:55:44 <BrutusBoots> I want to be able to step into the OS code from my app
Dec 11 01:55:58 <bankai_> charco: so ... when you return to the app the text is set to something and it's retained upon recreation ?
Dec 11 01:56:03 <|0xD34D|> in that case you may want to do it the way you mentioned
Dec 11 01:56:30 <charco> bankai_, I think that I've found the problem. An EditText isn't deleted on onCreate?
Dec 11 01:56:32 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: ok, I'll give that a go.  Don't think it'll be too painful
Dec 11 01:56:45 <|0xD34D|> probably less so than importing all of AOSP
Dec 11 01:56:55 <BrutusBoots> you'd think
Dec 11 01:57:02 <BrutusBoots> have you ever debugged native code?
Dec 11 01:57:06 <|0xD34D|> I would but then again you  never no with this stuff
Dec 11 01:57:19 <|0xD34D|> I have debugged native c++ in eclipse a while back
Dec 11 01:57:42 <|0xD34D|> was porting a game that used SDL and I was able to debug the native code
Dec 11 01:58:38 <charco> matense putos
Dec 11 02:01:04 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: I'm trying to learn more about stagefright... hoping I can get a better idea by debugging
Dec 11 02:01:34 <|0xD34D|> haha, I'm working on something with it too :P  adding sound recording to the screenrecord in 4,4
Dec 11 02:02:14 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: very nice.  I'm just trying to gather some info on media as it's playing... the MediaPlayer doesn't seem to expose much information at all
Dec 11 02:02:37 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: bitrate, current stream url, etc
Dec 11 02:02:47 <|0xD34D|> usually only what they think the app developer needs to know
Dec 11 02:02:53 <|0xD34D|> which usually isn't what they want to know
Dec 11 02:03:28 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: yeah.  I'm hoping I can find the info somehow... don't have high hopes though
Dec 11 02:04:48 <bankai_> if you wanna get some info, there's an android ffmpeg lib floating around somewhere
Dec 11 02:08:28 <nuke_> Hi everyone, is this the right place to ask for help with Android Studio?
Dec 11 02:10:16 <bankai_> when ever anyone says that it means "gradle isn't working" lol
Dec 11 02:11:26 <nuke_> no... having an issue with the emulator... it isn't showing up in the device list
Dec 11 02:11:42 <nuke_> have it installed on two Macs and one works the other doesn't
Dec 11 02:11:51 <nuke_> not sure where to look to investigate the problem
Dec 11 02:13:15 <f2prateek> run 'android avd'
Dec 11 02:13:25 <f2prateek> from the promp
Dec 11 02:13:27 <f2prateek> *prompt
Dec 11 02:16:21 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: I imported my app as a module and can debug it but if I try to step into any OS code it doesn't find it.  I'm thinking I need to somehow get my code into the AOSP tree hmmm
Dec 11 02:16:41 <BrutusBoots> |0xD34D|: build it as a system app maybe...
Dec 11 02:18:50 <|0xD34D|> You could add it to packages/apps/
Dec 11 02:19:56 <|0xD34D|> If you do I think you need to run idegen again, check the readme since it says what do to when you make changes like that
Dec 11 02:23:11 <nuke_> sorry got pulled away.... 'android' is not a command in the path... is it in the android studio bundle?
Dec 11 02:37:14 <phong_> hi all
Dec 11 02:37:15 <phong_> ?clear
Dec 11 02:41:21 <f2prateek> nuke_: click on the devices icon in android studio
Dec 11 02:46:35 <nuke_> AVD Manager or something else?
Dec 11 02:47:26 <bankai_> nuke_: does the emulator start through AS ?
Dec 11 02:47:28 <nuke_> The devices pane in the bottom left...
Dec 11 02:47:35 <nuke_> Says no connected devices
Dec 11 02:47:39 <nuke_> even though the emulator is running
Dec 11 02:48:11 <bankai_> kill the emulator and start it again
Dec 11 02:48:17 <Gentoon> I wish AS didnt start using a fragment_main
Dec 11 02:48:30 <Gentoon> none of the tutorials out there are using this new version
Dec 11 02:48:46 <bankai_> can't you just start it with a blank activity ?
Dec 11 02:48:54 <Gentoon> I do
Dec 11 02:49:13 <Gentoon> but the design template is in a fragment_main.xml
Dec 11 02:49:50 <bankai_> nothing is stopping you from changing that
Dec 11 02:50:06 <nuke_> ok closed it and now I have the choose device up... Launch Emulator and my device definition is in there... so I pick Ok...
Dec 11 02:50:08 <Gentoon> What do you mean?
Dec 11 02:50:17 <Gentoon> the whole template is based around it
Dec 11 02:50:41 <phong_> does anyone have a sample how to connect to webservice and get data ?
Dec 11 02:50:43 <Gentoon> I would have to rewrite the template and I don't know enough, being a complete noob
Dec 11 02:50:53 <phong_> i try to use webservice to sql server.
Dec 11 02:50:59 <phong_> how to use android to call it?
Dec 11 02:51:04 <nuke_> The emulator is starting up... on the other computer it then shows up in the device list... on this one it does not
Dec 11 02:51:15 <bankai_> phong_: use spring rest templates or something similar
Dec 11 02:51:54 <bankai_> nuke_: are you connecting to adb via TCP or something ?
Dec 11 02:53:03 <nuke_> I just installed android studio... didn't pick a connection method...
Dec 11 02:53:41 <nuke_> how do you pick that?
Dec 11 02:54:08 <bankai_> nuke_: i don't understand why you're talking about another computer then .... how does that relate to your setup ?
Dec 11 02:54:18 <nuke_> I have it installed on two computers
Dec 11 02:54:27 <nuke_> it works on one not on the other
Dec 11 02:54:37 <nuke_> trying to fix it on the one that isn't working
Dec 11 02:55:26 <bankai_> so AS will start it, but won't adb won't connect to it once it's started?
Dec 11 02:56:05 <Binbo> Can I disable file copy in android (or put password on it etc)
Dec 11 02:57:05 <nuke_> right
Dec 11 02:57:14 <Binbo> I have developed an android app and I'm gonna give the device to someone else. I dont want the app to be copied into pc or other device
Dec 11 02:57:31 <nuke_> it launches but doesn't connect to the emulator... an actual device connected via USB shows up
Dec 11 02:58:24 <bankai_> Binbo: not really no
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