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Dec 26 03:00:02 <Catharsis> Can anyone tell me which is better (preferred) assigning an onClick in the UI view or using implements onClickListener?
Dec 26 03:00:18 <Ologn> Mobclix is the big non-Google mediator...I don't know how well or not they handle Admob
Dec 26 03:00:48 <Ologn> I use Admob, Millenial Media and Inmobi, all are good.  Inmobi was a hassle to set up two years ago, don't know if that improved.
Dec 26 03:00:53 <desmin88> Catharsis: butterknife is great for onclicks
Dec 26 03:01:13 <JakeWharton> Catharsis: never do onClick in XML
Dec 26 03:01:19 <Catharsis> desmin88: What on earth is butterknife?
Dec 26 03:01:30 <Catharsis> JakeWharton: can you explain why?
Dec 26 03:02:04 <JakeWharton> can't be used outside of activities, uses reflection for invocation, creates a tight coupling from layout to context
Dec 26 03:02:07 <JakeWharton> not refactor safe
Dec 26 03:02:23 <Catharsis> iI'm fairly new to Android dev and just trying to school myself in best practices
Dec 26 03:02:26 <jalcine> any tips on defining a custom theme for an android app? (would love links and books)
Dec 26 03:02:45 <Catharsis> JakeWharton: Ah okay that makes sense
Dec 26 03:03:21 <Catharsis> Makes me wonder why it's there in the first place then
Dec 26 03:03:25 <Catharsis> Legacy perhaps?
Dec 26 03:03:54 <JakeWharton> yeah it's been around for a long time
Dec 26 03:05:05 <Catharsis> JakeWharton:Right not been removed just probably deprecated, athough I have found no documentation (as yet) telling me so
Dec 26 03:05:27 <Catharsis> I so hate then when learning a language at times
Dec 26 03:05:35 <Catharsis> unclear deprecation
Dec 26 03:06:23 <Catharsis> Or maybe I just don't know where to look
Dec 26 03:06:27 <Catharsis> Thanks JakeWharton
Dec 26 03:07:12 <desmin88> Catharsis: when you get a nice foundation of the android api, look into all the great apis by JakeWharton/Square
Dec 26 03:07:23 <desmin88> once you know how to do it all the hardway, then use those libraries
Dec 26 03:08:16 <Catharsis> desmin88: Yeah I tried to start to use Cobold2D is it.. just confused matters so I went back to basics
Dec 26 03:08:33 <Catharsis> Really want to create a 2d game I have in mind
Dec 26 03:08:43 <Catharsis> but have to learn to walk before I can run
Dec 26 03:10:15 <Ologn> Made $135 so far today on my apps...five more hours to go
Dec 26 03:10:48 <Ologn> The next few days should be good too...a lot of people who get tablets/smartphones as gifts don't mess around with them until the next day
Dec 26 03:14:16 <dragorn> cool
Dec 26 03:14:23 * dragorn wonders if his has gotten any traffic
Dec 26 03:14:49 <dragorn> heh.  Nope :P
Dec 26 03:15:10 <dragorn> one.  I guess that counts. :P
Dec 26 03:15:15 <hdon> hello and merry christmas all :) i'm using eclipse debugger and android 2.3.5. is it possible for the debugger to catch a RuntimeException when one is thrown?
Dec 26 03:15:43 <hdon> sorry not "catch," rather, "break on"
Dec 26 03:16:32 <hdon> with other exception types i didn't have a problem, but this one, possibly because it's special, isn't working when i add it as a "caught and uncaught" java breakpoint exception
Dec 26 03:18:14 <bankai_> does the stack trace not explain where/when/why it happened?
Dec 26 03:23:15 <hdon> hmm
Dec 26 03:24:31 <hdon> i think i've made a mistake
Dec 26 03:24:42 <hdon> right now i'm looking at a stack trace but
Dec 26 03:24:46 <hdon> it's all JVM (no debugging source for android.opengl.GLSurfaceView i suppose)
Dec 26 03:25:59 <hdon> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3864319
Dec 26 03:28:32 <hdon> i thought i wasn't getting a stack trace because it wasn't appearing in the part of the eclipse gui i'd come to expect it in
Dec 26 03:29:04 * hdon tries to understand what the actual error is
Dec 26 03:29:14 <hdon> oh, this isn't a stack trace at all
Dec 26 03:29:22 <hdon> this is just a disassembled class
Dec 26 03:30:11 <hdon> oh, i see.. i do have a stack trace, but the stack is very shallow (only one function, GLThread.run())
Dec 26 03:30:20 <dragorn> it's definitely possible to crash things inside native code, too
Dec 26 03:31:15 <hdon> yeah, that's something i'd considered. don't know what i'd do then. i don't know if eclipse will let me debug it.
Dec 26 03:31:43 <hdon> not that i'd really want to, because that's probably a long route for a simple mistake i could find more easily by examining my own code
Dec 26 03:51:51 <cripto> Can anyone help me with this http://puu.sh/5YNkj.png
Dec 26 03:52:19 <cripto> new to development
Dec 26 03:52:20 <leslie> cripto Eclipse or Android Studio?
Dec 26 03:52:27 <cripto> Android Studio
Dec 26 03:52:44 <leslie> and you've referenced the support library in build.gradle?
Dec 26 03:53:29 <cripto> if this is correct http://puu.sh/5YNsE.png
Dec 26 03:53:58 <leslie> yep. and you've installed the support library repository in the sdk manager?
Dec 26 03:54:35 <cripto> this is what I downloaded http://puu.sh/5YNwE.png
Dec 26 03:55:15 <leslie> hmm. not sure then
Dec 26 03:55:15 <cripto> well, I did the entire extras folder. But Im assuming thats the one I needed
Dec 26 03:55:45 <Ferdroid> hey i need to destroy an activity from another one
Dec 26 03:55:47 <Ferdroid>  how could i to do this?
Dec 26 03:56:06 <cripto> leslie: then I had to add it to the project using the "project Structure" menu. Right?
Dec 26 03:56:28 <cripto> leslie: all the forms say to add it to the modules.
Dec 26 03:56:39 <cripto> leslie: but I have two of them http://puu.sh/5YNCJ.png 0__o
Dec 26 03:56:53 <pfn> cripto, you didn't install the repo
Dec 26 03:57:27 <cripto> pfn: can you tell me more. Im not sure what you mean
Dec 26 04:00:25 <pfn> look in sdk manager
Dec 26 04:00:31 <pfn> install support repo
Dec 26 04:02:20 <cripto> pfn: oh, I have that too. http://puu.sh/5YNSI.png I have the entire extras folder
Dec 26 04:03:03 <leslie> cripto try a clean build
Dec 26 04:03:10 <pfn> then just add the library to your build.gradle as documented, and you're done
Dec 26 04:04:28 <cripto> leslie: How do I clean and build. Im using the play button in android studio
Dec 26 04:04:52 <leslie> I forget what the command is in AS
Dec 26 04:05:03 <leslie> but from the commandline it'd be ./gradlew clean
Dec 26 04:05:09 <JakeWharton> build > rebuild project
Dec 26 04:06:15 <JakeWharton> if you've only just added the dependency, you need to sync the IDE model with the gradle model
Dec 26 04:06:27 <JakeWharton> there's a button on the toolbar and also one in the gradle window
Dec 26 04:08:20 <cripto> JakeWharton leslie the rebuild didnt work
Dec 26 04:08:32 <cripto> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16588064/how-do-i-add-a-library-project-to-the-android-studio
Dec 26 04:08:50 <cripto> this says I have to add it to my project using the menus. is this correct.
Dec 26 04:09:31 <JakeWharton> dunno. never used the UI
Dec 26 04:09:41 <JakeWharton> always just messed with the build.gradle manually
Dec 26 04:10:26 <cripto> hmm, what about this http://puu.sh/5YOgg.png
Dec 26 04:10:28 <cripto> is that ok
Dec 26 04:11:56 <leslie> cripto, try Tools > Android > Sync Project
Dec 26 04:13:21 <cripto> Actually guys, I just fixed it. File > Project Structure > Libaries > Add Android-support-v4
Dec 26 04:13:27 <cripto> thanks you leslie for trying
Dec 26 04:13:31 <cripto> thank you JakeWharton
Dec 26 04:20:00 <alienxp03> how to prevent another app from uninstall our app?
Dec 26 04:20:10 <alienxp03> is the only possible way is to change the package name?
Dec 26 04:21:07 <leslie> another app can't uninstall your app, it can only prompt the user to uninstall it. I don't believe you can prevent that
Dec 26 04:22:01 <alienxp03> yeah. they can prompt the user to uninstall it. right now it's happening from our competitor. the new software update requires them to uninstall our apps before they can use their app
Dec 26 04:22:48 <alienxp03> it's kinda unethical I think
Dec 26 04:24:32 <leslie> well, it's against the Play Store guidelines, from what I can tell
Dec 26 04:24:44 <leslie> "Apps must not encourage, incentivize, or mislead users into removing or disabling third-party apps except as part of a security service provided by the app."
Dec 26 04:28:05 <Overv> Would it be okay to start using Android Studio in production? I realise it's officially still an early preview, but it'd be worth it if the productivity improvement is good enough.
Dec 26 04:30:42 <desmin88> Overv: sure why not?
Dec 26 04:31:06 <Overv> desmin88: perhaps there are still essential features missing/annoying bugs
Dec 26 04:31:19 <desmin88> i have no bugs
Dec 26 04:31:27 <desmin88> although ymmv
Dec 26 04:31:35 <desmin88> it seems fine enough for production
Dec 26 04:31:37 <Overv> desmin88: is it easy to get into gradle if you've only worked with ant?
Dec 26 04:32:22 <leslie> gradle has simpler defaults
Dec 26 04:32:53 <desmin88> gradle is real easy.
Dec 26 04:33:22 <Overv> and not much trouble getting stuff like ABS to work?
Dec 26 04:33:36 <desmin88> nope
Dec 26 04:33:56 <leslie> I'd say it's easier
Dec 26 04:34:11 <leslie> though you might want to use AppCompat instead
Dec 26 04:35:41 <leslie> having dependency management is a nice improvement over the old ant stuff
Dec 26 04:42:13 <yeoj> i have a very basic app that prints some information into a textview, i'm using runonuithread to run some other logic and hoping to update the textview before sleeping for a couple seconds, and running in a loop for x times.  it works in the sense that i can see my logging and when it hits x number of runs it shows the correct information in the emulator, but while it's actually running in the emulator the title bar disappears and i never see any of the up
Dec 26 04:45:18 <leslie> you're not sleeping in the UI thread, are you?
Dec 26 04:46:56 <yeoj> of course i am. :)  i guess i should have gathered that i shouldn't have been doing that.
Dec 26 04:48:24 <yeoj> should i instead be creating a new thread and using runonuithread and sleeping there?
Dec 26 04:48:56 <leslie> do as little as possible in the UI thread, otherwise your app will be unresponsive
Dec 26 04:49:27 <leslie> so yeah, what you described would work
Dec 26 04:54:05 <leslie> yeoj http://developer.android.com/training/articles/perf-anr.html
Dec 26 04:54:50 <bankai_> use an asynctask, that's what it's there for
Dec 26 05:05:45 <yeoj> thank you both
Dec 26 05:11:34 <jmfurlott> What is the choice of IDE/setup here in #android-dev? Android Studio is using 1.16GB in addition to the emulator in RAM....
Dec 26 05:14:42 <desmin88> jmfurlott: what do you expect?
Dec 26 05:17:45 <jmfurlott> desmin88: vim + all the stuff intellij automates :))
Dec 26 05:18:27 <desmin88> 1.16gb seems a little high but with the emulator and project open that sounds about right
Dec 26 05:19:13 <jmfurlott> emulator is taking another 600
Dec 26 05:19:30 <desmin88> sounds about right
Dec 26 05:20:01 <jmfurlott> wow really? I haven't done Android since Eclipse and I thought this would be a lot better
Dec 26 05:27:04 <kbwt> I've had an app on the Android Market for over 2 years, and its active installs are at <9%.
Dec 26 05:27:18 <kbwt> I bet that gets me penalized pretty heavily in the search results.
Dec 26 05:29:18 <kbwt> Tons of spam apps and unrelated apps appearing in the search results for the main keyword long before my app. Oh well, they probably have higher active installs because the only people installing them have no clue how to uninstall an app.
Dec 26 05:31:08 <kbwt> For the exact same keyword, "Google Applications Search" ranks my app first place while Google Play ranks it at about 50th place.
Dec 26 05:37:04 <jmfurlott> kbwt: I am sure that the Play Store is weighting it down unfortunately
Dec 26 05:42:38 <hdon> hi all, and merry xmas! i'm looking at glVertexAttribPointer(). how do i specify my Buffer and an offset into the Buffer?
Dec 26 05:43:04 <hdon> it seems there are two overloads of this method, but one accepts a Buffer, and the other accepts an offset, not both!
Dec 26 05:48:34 <zinx> hdon: http://www.opengl.org/wiki/Vertex_Buffer_Object#Vertex_Buffer_Object
Dec 26 05:48:43 * hdon clicks
Dec 26 05:50:46 <hdon> oh, so i cannot use glVertexAttribPointer() to give a handle to my Buffer if i want to have multiple vertex attributes interleaved in the same Buffer? i must create a VBO?
Dec 26 05:51:35 <kbwt> Yeah, you have to use a VBO.
Dec 26 05:51:43 <hdon> ah, thank you kbwt and zinx
Dec 26 05:51:45 <zinx> well, i'm not sure where it starts when you pass it a Buffer in java
Dec 26 05:52:07 <zinx> Buffer has some state, some of which is the start point.. but a VBO is going to be more performant in many cases anyway
Dec 26 05:52:15 <hdon> oh
Dec 26 05:52:17 <hdon> good point zinx
Dec 26 05:52:26 <hdon> i'll give that a try quickly and plan for VBO in either case
Dec 26 05:52:45 <hdon> zinx, i think you're right
Dec 26 05:52:59 <zinx> in C (which OpenGL/GLES/etc were designed for), it's just a void*, so in C you just do pointer math :/
Dec 26 05:53:05 <zinx> obviously not an option in Java :)
Dec 26 05:53:35 <zinx> but yeah, try setting the position/limit/whatever on the Buffer
Dec 26 05:53:47 <zinx> Android has been known to occasionally ignore that for some functions, though.
Dec 26 05:53:58 <hdon> yeah
Dec 26 05:54:17 <hdon> i'm much more comfortable in the systems programming world
Dec 26 05:54:38 <hdon> but java is simple in some specific ways that make it attractive for certain uses
Dec 26 05:54:45 <hdon> thanks for the help zinx and kbwt
Dec 26 05:54:53 <zinx> np, hope you figure it out :)
Dec 26 06:01:52 <hdon> zinx, it worked!
Dec 26 06:02:12 <hdon> zinx, i will "upgrade" to VBOs when i get a chance, but this is not a serious project, just a toy for girlfriend
Dec 26 06:02:20 <hdon> thanks again and merry xmas
Dec 26 06:06:35 <kbwt> hmm, interesting: https://cvs.khronos.org/svn/repos/ogl/trunk/doc/registry/public/api/
Dec 26 06:06:56 <kbwt> they deprecated the old .spec files and replaced them with xml
Dec 26 06:07:34 <kbwt> doesn't seem like it adds that much information though
Dec 26 06:08:18 <kbwt> the typedefs seem to still be mostly plaintext typedefs with some (useless) tags in between
Dec 26 06:09:32 <kbwt> still no way to validate extensions thoroughly, like GLX_EXT_swap_control_tear allowing negative parameters to glXSwapIntervalEXT
Dec 26 06:24:42 <Seraf> Hello everyone. Merry christmas ! I'm stuck with a problem I described on stackoverflow : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20764214/android-speak-failed-tts-engine-connection-not-fully-set-up if someone can help me, it will be very very nice :)
Dec 26 06:59:00 <desmin88> Has anyone here used mopub?
Dec 26 07:33:17 <Looney> what is mopub desmin88
Dec 26 07:33:21 <Looney>  /j #c++
Dec 26 07:34:11 <desmin88> Looney: http://www.mopub.com/
Dec 26 07:35:26 <Looney> lately, tried admobs though
Dec 26 07:40:18 <brickhead> hey guys
Dec 26 07:40:30 <brickhead> how do I want to use holo theme progress bar
Dec 26 07:40:46 <desmin88> how do you want to?
Dec 26 07:40:47 <brickhead> don't I'm ok if it defaults to native progress bay < 3.0
Dec 26 07:40:53 <desmin88> wat?
Dec 26 07:41:01 <brickhead> I get an error Failed to find style 'progressBarStyle' in current theme
Dec 26 07:41:08 <brickhead> for 2.3
Dec 26 07:41:39 <brickhead> so My question is how do I define this theme for < 3.0
Dec 26 07:41:50 <desmin88> my answer is
Dec 26 07:41:54 <desmin88> support sdk 14 and up
Dec 26 07:43:01 <brickhead> I have to support sdk 8
Dec 26 07:43:09 <desmin88> says who
Dec 26 07:44:09 <brickhead> says 30% of my existing customers
Dec 26 07:49:20 <desmin88> define customers
Dec 26 08:05:10 <capella> That cuts out GB
Dec 26 08:06:25 <capella> Froyo, meh :)
Dec 26 08:18:07 <thepoosh> I decided I hate Android Studio
Dec 26 08:18:15 <thepoosh> it's just not nice to Eclipse users
Dec 26 08:18:23 <thepoosh> and there's no real documentation
Dec 26 08:28:43 <stkim1> question. Do i have an alternative/substitution for logcat? any OSS project out there?
Dec 26 08:30:57 <zipc> i use pidcat http://jsharkey.org/blog/2009/04/22/modifying-the-android-logcat-stream-for-full-color-debugging/
Dec 26 08:33:17 <stkim1> zipc thanks man! looks v. promising
Dec 26 08:37:18 <desmin88> thepoosh: what do you expect using an alpha product
Dec 26 08:37:58 <thepoosh> finding it at least easy to setup
Dec 26 08:38:06 <thepoosh> it's freaking impossible
Dec 26 08:38:20 <thepoosh> desmin88:
Dec 26 08:38:22 <desmin88> its pretty easy i think
Dec 26 08:38:28 <thepoosh> i dunno
Dec 26 08:38:36 <thepoosh> imported my project from Git
Dec 26 08:38:49 <thepoosh> and pointed to my gradle library
Dec 26 08:38:54 <thepoosh> and still got a freaking error
Dec 26 08:39:01 <desmin88> which is
Dec 26 08:43:59 <jack10> hi guys, whats the best way to communicate from a Service to an Activity.
Dec 26 08:45:42 <desmin88> jack10: google "android communicate from a service to an activity"
Dec 26 08:45:49 <storkme> eventbus/binding/broadcasts
Dec 26 08:45:52 <storkme> depends on your use case
Dec 26 08:47:19 <jack10> T have a gps tracking service and want to draw the route to a map.
Dec 26 08:50:04 <thepoosh> desmin88: unable to load class 'org.gradle.artifacts.result.ResolveModuleVersionResult'
Dec 26 08:50:25 <thepoosh> at first it told me Gradle 1.8 is lower than 1.8
Dec 26 08:50:30 <thepoosh> and then I got this
Dec 26 08:52:38 <desmin88> well that sucks
Dec 26 09:00:27 <thepoosh> hmmm
Dec 26 09:00:31 <thepoosh> that was helpfull
Dec 26 09:50:38 <CaptainFarrell> good day, everyone
Dec 26 10:15:06 <Seraf> Hello, is there someone who have experience with the TTS Engine please ?
Dec 26 10:23:38 <jaami-win> in a loop i found the item that contains the search text but how to set that item as current selected item in listview?
Dec 26 10:24:01 <jaami-win> can someone help
Dec 26 10:25:12 <jaami-win> i could not find any example to set any litstview ite, as current item displayed as selected
Dec 26 10:25:45 <jaami-win> item**
Dec 26 10:29:34 <jaami-win> i want to scroll list to the item i searched in a  loop, how to do it plz tell
Dec 26 10:47:15 <ahri> hi, i'm having an issue with my apk, which crashes when i run it with: `Caused by: java.lang.SecurityException: META-INF/MANIFEST.MF has invalid digest for com/badlogic/gdx/utils/arial-15.png' -- but when i run `jarsigner -verify android/target/aligned.apk -keystore ~/.android/debug.keystore -verbose' i get the following on that line: `smk    21814 Thu Dec 26 01:33:52 GMT 2013 com/badlogic/gdx/utils/arial-15.png' -- am i missing something?
Dec 26 10:47:59 <thepoosh> ahri: try clean build
Dec 26 10:48:44 <ahri> the problem is likely in my build chain -- i've constructed it myself to try to get a better understanding of android/apks by rolling my own
Dec 26 10:49:04 <ahri> i have done a clean build with no improvement
Dec 26 10:49:17 <ahri> perhaps it's the way i'm using jarsigner?
Dec 26 10:51:38 <ahri> thepoosh: https://gist.github.com/ahri/8132214 -- this is what i'm executing to sign my apk
Dec 26 10:53:03 <vmusr> any idea how to fix this: gradle Task 'wrapper' not found in project
Dec 26 10:54:40 <ahri> thepoosh: unsure how relevant, but here's the content of the MANIFEST.MF - https://gist.github.com/ahri/8132244
Dec 26 10:57:03 <ahri> thepoosh: for completeness; the jarsigner verify output: https://gist.github.com/ahri/8132266
Dec 26 10:59:53 <ahri> so i guess what i come back to is: what does "invalid digest" mean? is it invalid because it's the wrong format, or is it invalid because the file contents don't match up to the sign/digest?
Dec 26 11:06:24 <rrva> what is a good tool to automate ui tasks in a third-party app? Clicking buttons, filling in text fields etc
Dec 26 11:06:42 <ahri> oh yeah; another bit of information: this is not happening at install-time -- the apk installs fine -- it's at runtime that it crashes
Dec 26 11:06:52 <rrva> not like espresso or robotium which are for ui testing your own app
Dec 26 11:06:57 <xperia> hi. what lines need to be changed so i am able to compile/build android for the armv5 cpu ?
Dec 26 11:10:00 <Seraf> Hello, is there someone who have experience with the TTS Engine please ?
Dec 26 11:11:47 <rrva> oh, i guess all I needed was uiautomatorviewer
Dec 26 11:35:36 <izemize> it possible replace front camera in android to /dev/video0??
Dec 26 11:39:49 <CaptainFarrell> guys, how does OnSharedPreferenceChangeListener work? If I change prefs in one activity/fragment but set that listener in another one, will I get a callback?
Dec 26 11:48:23 <pikaro> hi! I'd like to open a config activity once a widget is placed on the home screen. google tells me that with appWidgetProvider, I just have to place the relevant lines in onEnabled, which seems to be untrue for the stock aosp launcher. works a-ok with adw, but the stock launcher seems to call onEnabled once the widget is picked up, not once it's dropped, so my activity cancels the widget placement. is there a better way to do this?
Dec 26 11:49:01 <storkme> one of those days i guess, none of the bloody emulators are starting. sigh.
Dec 26 11:49:05 <pikaro> (at least I think it's the stock aosp launcher, the one that comes with the 4.1.2 emulator)
Dec 26 11:59:35 <Looney> storkme: I use my Wildfire and I can bet that it is faster than your emulator instances  :-P
Dec 26 12:06:20 <cooldharma06> hi
Dec 26 12:06:55 <cooldharma06> anybody there
Dec 26 12:07:24 <cooldharma06> i am newbie to android and i am exploring the developers.android.com..
Dec 26 12:07:52 <cooldharma06> in that camera face recognization.. its not recognizing the face..
Dec 26 12:08:02 <cooldharma06> but the function is getting called
Dec 26 12:10:26 <storkme> Looney: naw it isn't
Dec 26 12:11:30 <Looney> think what you want to think and let me think what I want to think
Dec 26 12:13:12 <storkme> if it helps you sleep at night i guess
Dec 26 12:15:16 <autrilla> This: http://gyazo.com/fd70a1cd4d0fde5764698c668987e009.png or this: http://gyazo.com/1b1e3169fbb7149643c2b71715c4e102.png
Dec 26 12:16:57 <storkme> tough call. depends how popular each is, imo. The larger example looks nicer, but obviously you can only fit four on a screen at a time. If however 90% of your users are using those four, it's probably a pretty safe bet.
Dec 26 12:19:46 <cooldharma06> anybody know facedetection i am facing small problem
Dec 26 12:21:26 <autrilla> storkme, I like the looks of the larger one best too, but I could add a search bar on the actionbar to make it easier... It's inspired on Google Play Music
Dec 26 12:26:47 <storkme> reinstalled haxm and that was that...
Dec 26 12:31:59 <W1SS> @autrilla or you could simply resize the large photos to fit 3 results per line effectively utilizing the available whitespace
Dec 26 12:32:30 <kakazza> Looney: Then you're not using the hardware accelerated x86 emulator.
Dec 26 12:32:55 <MDijkstra> are there some best practices for an Android Studio workflow where some of the library projects are independent of the main project?
Dec 26 12:33:28 <MDijkstra> ie, I have a library project in Eclipse currently which is in a different git repository than the applications using it
Dec 26 12:33:39 <Looney> hmm, will try it out kakazza
Dec 26 12:34:08 <kakazza> Be sure to read the instructions carefully. Downloading HAXM using the SDK Manager is not enough, you have to manually install it.
Dec 26 12:34:19 <MDijkstra> as far as I understand it Android Studio forces you to have a directory structure in which the application project and library projects are part of a hierarchical directory structure
Dec 26 12:34:27 <MDijkstra> so should I use git submodules?
Dec 26 12:34:45 <kakazza> MDijkstra: I guess you could have it as a local dependency in gradle?
Dec 26 12:35:08 <kakazza> Like back in the days when we had to use ABS (a library project) it was defined as a dependency.
Dec 26 12:35:30 <kakazza> I'm not sure how'd that would work for local projects, I guess you'd have to deploy to the local maven/gradle repo, never done that before, tho.
Dec 26 12:36:41 <MDijkstra> kakazza: that's an option, yes, if I can specify an aar as a local dependency
Dec 26 12:36:47 <MDijkstra> which I'm guessing is possible
Dec 26 12:43:04 <Looney> Qt Creator is quite neater than Eclipse, and yes I am not speaking from Android perspective  :-)
Dec 26 12:43:13 <cooldharma06> anybody know camera facedetection
Dec 26 12:43:25 <kakazza> No, sorry.
Dec 26 12:44:06 <ahri> can anyone help me to understand why a digest check on a resource file might fail at runtime? my apk installs fine
Dec 26 12:45:09 <ahri> the exception is `java.lang.SecurityException: META-INF/MANIFEST.MF has invalid digest for com/badlogic/gdx/utils/arial-15.png'
Dec 26 12:45:36 <ahri> but jarsigner -verify says it all matches up
Dec 26 12:45:50 <ahri> (and like i said; it installs!)
Dec 26 12:47:56 <Looney> try renaming it to arial_15.png ahri
Dec 26 12:49:08 <ahri> Looney: oh, is there a restriction on filenames? this is from a 3rd-party lib :\
Dec 26 12:49:57 <Looney> I think that there is no harm in retrying/modifying to see if you can achieve what you want to
Dec 26 12:59:49 <Looney> finally got the amazon free 5$ credit
Dec 26 12:59:59 <Looney> but SwiftKey is 3.99 now  :-(
Dec 26 13:00:09 <Looney> is SwypeKey any good
Dec 26 13:03:31 <kakazza> I use the Google Keyboard to swipe.
Dec 26 13:03:45 <kakazza> I used to use Swype.
Dec 26 13:04:09 <ahri> swiftkey is good, but yeah i tend to use the google keyboard now
Dec 26 13:05:33 <ahri> Looney: i tried changing the filenames to use underscores, now it can't find them (it's a 3rd-party lib) -- it first opens a .fnt of the same name, so it's now failing there. notably when the filenames are expected it must be opening up that .fnt file and then later failing on the .png -- so i'm pretty confused
Dec 26 13:05:59 <MDijkstra> I still use swiftkey mainly because it's the only keyboard which supports multiple languages without switching
Dec 26 13:06:02 <MDijkstra> (afaik)
Dec 26 13:06:03 <ahri> *when the filenames are _as_ expected
Dec 26 13:06:43 <kakazza> MDijkstra: That's a major plus. Pretty much the only feature I am missing from the Google Keyboard.
Dec 26 13:07:17 <MDijkstra> yeah, same
Dec 26 13:08:11 <ahri> Looney: to clarify it's a file not found error when i renamed them, whereas it's a digest error on the 2nd file it opens when the filenames are unchanged
Dec 26 13:08:14 <MDijkstra> Google doesn't seem to realize that most users write english and their native language in the same sentence
Dec 26 13:08:38 <kakazza> totes
Dec 26 13:09:13 <jaami-win> a simpleadapter has the row i need to bring up front and selected in the listview, how you do that?
Dec 26 13:09:44 <jaami-win> i got row number
Dec 26 13:10:02 <jaami-win> or you can say index/position whatever
Dec 26 13:10:41 <jaami-win> look like nobody gona answer any of my question here in this channel
Dec 26 13:11:02 <Seraf> Hello, is there someone who have experience with the TTS Engine please ?
Dec 26 13:11:12 <jaami-win> same question i asked few hours ago and got no response
Dec 26 13:11:59 <jaami-win> Seraf, i guess the experts are on long week ends
Dec 26 13:12:44 <jaami-win> this chanel is the most nasty one i ever used
Dec 26 13:13:06 <Seraf> jaami-win, yes, it's what I think ... I asked on g+ community, stack overflow (someone downvoted my question without any comment) and asking since 2 days here :(
Dec 26 13:14:06 <jaami-win> yeh right, i guess i have to wait for next month to,have my questions answered
Dec 26 13:14:21 <kakazza> jaami-win: What exactly are you trying to do?
Dec 26 13:14:42 <lasserix> Hello, anyone know how to launch an intent to open a specific sms in the --drafts-- folder?
Dec 26 13:15:15 <jaami-win> in a loop on adapter i found row that got the search string, now need to bring up the actual item in the listview
Dec 26 13:15:24 <ahri> jaami-win: nobody answered my question either; that doesn't mean everyone hates me ;)
Dec 26 13:16:19 <jaami-win> hope so, did not mean to offend anyone
Dec 26 13:16:41 <SimonVT> I doubt many people use the TTS engine. Sometimes you just have to do your own debugging. Read framework source, step through it with a debugger, etc. See if you can figure out why you're getting the result you're getting
Dec 26 13:16:45 <kakazza> Do you want to show it or highlight it?
Dec 26 13:16:55 <kakazza> Or possibly both.
Dec 26 13:17:30 <jaami-win> i want to show it and highlight it, if the item is deep down somewhere in the list. just neet to bring that up make it current row
Dec 26 13:18:08 <jaami-win> let me paste my code and really thanks for asking what i needed
Dec 26 13:19:43 <kakazza> https://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/ListView.html#smoothScrollToPosition(int)
Dec 26 13:19:53 <kakazza> Could be what you're looking for.
Dec 26 13:20:12 <Seraf> thanks SimonVT to answer me. I already tried to do this, reading many and many tutorials everywhere. The only result in google with my error is the source code of android on github :s I tried to understood why it fails but didn't understood, and I'm little lost as I began Java with this project
Dec 26 13:20:35 <kakazza> There's also https://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/ListView.html#setSelection(int)
Dec 26 13:22:09 <jaami-win> kakazza, i will check links , meanwhile you can check my code? plz see the afterTextChanged
Dec 26 13:22:17 <jaami-win> http://pastebin.com/DL2ugYJi
Dec 26 13:23:15 <SimonVT> Seraf: There's a tts sample in the sdk, have you tried that?
Dec 26 13:25:22 <n20> Top of the morning to y'all. :)
Dec 26 13:25:27 <n20> (Hi SimonVT!)
Dec 26 13:25:49 <SimonVT> :)
Dec 26 13:26:09 <Seraf> SimonVT, didn't tried this sample
Dec 26 13:27:06 <SimonVT> Get it running then you at least have a starting point that works.. Use that to get more comfortable with the api
Dec 26 13:27:52 <Seraf> thanks SimonVT I will try with it
Dec 26 13:31:26 <jaami-win> SimonVT, may i ask something if you are not too busy?
Dec 26 13:34:55 <SimonVT> If you have questions about android dev, just ask the channel
Dec 26 13:36:01 <jaami-win> ok, thanks SimonVT
Dec 26 13:58:15 <autrilla> This: http://gyazo.com/fd70a1cd4d0fde5764698c668987e009.png or this: http://gyazo.com/1b1e3169fbb7149643c2b71715c4e102.png ? First is a ListView, second is GridView on autoFit
Dec 26 14:11:13 <ahri> autrilla: i like the GridView better
Dec 26 14:11:49 <DeadSix27> gridview looks more modern
Dec 26 14:14:03 <autrilla> Alright, my thoughts were right :)
Dec 26 14:15:03 <DeadSix27> while listview ofc in this example offers a better overview. but like ahri, i prefer gridview.
Dec 26 14:19:14 <thepoosh> ahri, autrilla, DeadSix27 have you seen this?
Dec 26 14:19:14 <thepoosh> https://github.com/etsy/AndroidStaggeredGrid
Dec 26 14:20:48 <DeadSix27> looks nice
Dec 26 14:20:52 <thepoosh> yep
Dec 26 14:20:56 <thepoosh> got it on Android Weekly
Dec 26 14:22:25 <autrilla> thepoosh, I fell in love
Dec 26 14:24:18 <autrilla> What size should I use for the images? They are on autofit, so idk how much they occupy
Dec 26 14:26:01 <autrilla> In pixels
Dec 26 14:26:22 <thepoosh> I dunno, never used it
Dec 26 14:26:29 <thepoosh> but Android weekly is awesome
Dec 26 14:26:45 <thepoosh> you should definitely sign up for the email
Dec 26 14:29:06 <storkme> is it possible to make an android service handle an ACTION_VIEW? (this is for a twitter callback)
Dec 26 14:29:59 <autrilla> Hmmm.. apparently BitmapFactory deconding takes a lot of time
Dec 26 14:30:03 <autrilla> Should be done in background
Dec 26 14:30:39 <autrilla> I'd like to use what tumblr does as a placeholder, get the main color of the image
Dec 26 14:31:09 <thepoosh> storkme: if you declare an IntentFilter for ACTION_VIEW you'll receive it
Dec 26 14:33:52 <storkme> I must be doing something wrong, then.
Dec 26 14:38:46 <thepoosh> storkme: well, there is an inherit issue with catching ACTION_VIEW with a service
Dec 26 14:42:23 <storkme> is there?
Dec 26 14:42:59 <storkme> yep, service doesn't work, activity does. That's a shame.
Dec 26 14:46:48 <storkme> guess I could just make an activity without a UI.
Dec 26 14:47:05 <storkme> and somehow fix the back stack, heh.
Dec 26 14:47:08 <thepoosh> storkme: you cannot "view" anything in a service, by definition it doesn't have a View
Dec 26 14:47:20 <thepoosh> it's a definition error
Dec 26 14:47:29 <thepoosh> what are you trying to do?
Dec 26 14:48:55 <storkme> when you do oauth with twitter, you need to get the request token which gives you a URL that you send the user to, then they log into twitter in the browser, and then it redirects to a callback that you specify, so I tell it to redirect to my-app://whatever and then capture the data encapsulated with that intent.
Dec 26 14:49:18 <storkme> perhaps it'd be easier to just embed a WebView, rather than relying on the browser. Then I'd be able to manage the back stack better.
Dec 26 14:53:37 <thepoosh> storkme: what happens if you use startActivityForResult?
Dec 26 14:53:45 <thepoosh> wont you get it as an answer?
Dec 26 14:55:24 <thepoosh> storkme: look here https://code.google.com/p/twimight/source/browse/trunk/src/ch/ethz/twimight/activities/LoginActivity.java
Dec 26 14:55:57 <thepoosh> storkme: or even better, look at this
Dec 26 14:55:58 <thepoosh> https://code.google.com/p/twimight/source/browse/trunk/src/ch/ethz/twimight/activities/LoginActivity.java#300
Dec 26 14:56:14 <Dreeass> I stumbled upon the documentation of a string-array and it says that the item element doesn't have an attribute. I once read somewhere that it was needed for preferences somewhere, I can delete the following name attributes then (for the items): http://hastebin.com/luboloyilo.xml
Dec 26 15:20:08 <ughlol> Im running ADT on a Debian derived Linux. R.java is not auto-generating. Can somebody help me out?
Dec 26 15:25:57 <ughlol> anybody?
Dec 26 15:38:08 <kjeldahl> Project clean and retry?
Dec 26 15:48:27 <Dreeass> I've got 2 arrays in strings.xml, one with entries (Strings) and one with values (integers). Is there a way of checking what value belongs to what entry without looping through the int[]?
Dec 26 15:51:05 <lasserix> prefix the names
Dec 26 15:52:07 <kjeldahl> Loop through once and initialize a map on application startup.
Dec 26 16:02:19 <Dreeass> lasserix  and kjeldahl, thanks. Any idea on how to get put a MutliSelectListPreference inside a normal layout or how to make it yourself?
Dec 26 16:04:31 <Dreeass> I don't even know what to search for to look for an answer on that question..
Dec 26 16:12:45 <pfn> ugh, I can't get android.net.rtp to work ok on my moto x
Dec 26 16:12:51 <pfn> stream.join(null) keeps hanging
Dec 26 16:13:03 <I440r> is reading data out of assets slower than reading it out of /data ?
Dec 26 16:13:06 <pfn> then any subsequent group.add hangs because add/remove are synchronized
Dec 26 16:18:19 <michalrus> I'm inflating a view (that contains a <Button/>) and adding it to a RelativeLayout with some LayoutParams. The Button is unclickable. What could I be doing wrong?
Dec 26 16:19:39 <michalrus> `nv = inflater.inflate(nodeLayoutId, null); rlay.addView(nv, rparams)`
Dec 26 16:19:54 <I440r> does your xml file specify a on click listener?
Dec 26 16:20:05 <michalrus> I440r, no, I'm setting it programmatically.
Dec 26 16:20:16 <michalrus> button.setOnClickListener(new ...)
Dec 26 16:20:20 <I440r> kk
Dec 26 16:20:37 <michalrus> I440r, but the point is it doesn't even turn blue, when I touch it.
Dec 26 16:20:47 <michalrus> Not that my listener doesn't work.
Dec 26 16:28:05 <ultra-> how do you neatly divide the screen when placing views is measured in integer values?
Dec 26 16:28:40 <ultra-> say i have a grid that's 8 buttons wide, equal width based on screen width... there's going to be conversions from float to int since placement uses integers
Dec 26 16:32:46 <SimonVT> Just use linearlayout and don't worry about it
Dec 26 16:34:37 <smit> amazon is saying that my app is not "targeted" at kindles.  how can I determine the cause? any tips?  Anything manifest related?
Dec 26 16:39:08 <ultra-> SimonVT: i'm trying to replicate what i did for ios (http://www.sub-version.net/images/neural_screenshot.png)... the middle area is 2d scrollable (touch events overridden and use finger tracking to calculate scroll)... the number of buttons can change at any time
Dec 26 16:39:27 <ultra-> and every bit of the interface is written with code
Dec 26 16:39:38 <ultra-> graphics, positioning, etc
Dec 26 16:40:02 <ultra-> the button sizes are calculated based on screen size, and it divides nicely
Dec 26 16:41:06 <ultra-> i don't know if my android approach is correct... i still want to do everything with code... right now i have the main grid, which is a subclassed ScrollView, with a HorizontalScrollView on it, on that is a LinearLayout that contains the buttons with positioning done with code
Dec 26 16:46:04 <aep> bah, i dont get how the accelerometer values work
Dec 26 16:48:20 <SimonVT> Dunno really. You could calculate their height/width, floor the value, append leftover space to the top row and right column
Dec 26 16:48:59 <SimonVT> (I assume that row and column isn't scrollable)
Dec 26 16:49:47 <SimonVT> And you can snap the scrollable area so half views aren't visible if you want
Dec 26 16:52:57 <ultra-> ok i will try that
Dec 26 16:53:36 <ultra-> basically just adding a border around the whole thing to accommodate for changing the divisions to integer
Dec 26 16:56:36 <I440r> is reading a file out of assets slower than reading it out of /data ?
Dec 26 17:04:45 <SimonVT> Considering the file sizes you'd put in assets, I'd imagine the difference is insignificant
Dec 26 17:06:18 <SimonVT> (if there is one)
Dec 26 17:28:16 <evanc> I440r: pretty sure it's the same (aren't APKs zipaligned so that they can be accessed like the disk or something? I'm probably mixing up terms, but I believe the overhead from the APK container is near zero)
Dec 26 17:29:38 <p_l> zipalign makes it easier to map them into memory, afaik
Dec 26 17:33:06 <I440r> evanc thers always the overhead of decompressing - plus my MAJOR MAJOR problem right now is that i need to be able to do random access on asset files and i need to do it from native C not java.
Dec 26 17:33:27 <evanc> yeah, something like that. I wasn't sure if the whole APK got loaded into memory when the app was running
Dec 26 17:33:44 <I440r> there are very very few examples of how to access assets using JNI and 99% of the ones that exist are incomplete, they assume you can fill in the blanks
Dec 26 17:34:12 <eyda|mon> eclipse is no longer detecting my nexus. I upgraded to 4.4 and haven't seen it since. Is there some new step I need to take ?
Dec 26 17:34:15 <I440r> i doubt the whole APK gets loaded into memory, that would be pretty wastefull
Dec 26 17:34:30 <p_l> I440r: that's why it's zipaligned, it's demand-loaded
Dec 26 17:34:44 <I440r> p_l yea thas what i would expect
Dec 26 17:35:10 <p_l> with zipalign, every member of the archive starts on page boundary, afaik
Dec 26 17:35:20 <AphelionZ> hi, can somebody help me with some fragment lifecycle stuff? See here: http://pastie.org/private/odpj5uadpuxjtshpdkbpa
Dec 26 17:35:28 <AphelionZ>  I'm trying to retain the active fragment on an orientation change and i get NullPointerExceptions at line 54/55
Dec 26 17:35:39 <AphelionZ> it just seems like the list of fragments that the supportfragmentmanager keeps is either incomplete, or lagging, or both
Dec 26 17:40:00 <SimonVT> You don't need to call setRetainInstance, any added fragments will be re-created by the fragmentmanager
Dec 26 17:40:18 <SimonVT> And why are you not just putting a String in the bundle instead of Serializable
Dec 26 17:47:19 <AphelionZ> SimonVT: thats all fine but the issue is that findFragmentByTag is returning null and the getFramgments list never has the current fragment in it
Dec 26 17:52:22 <SimonVT> If findFragmentByTag returns null then either you saved the wrong tag or you replaced the fragment before onRestoreInstanceState
Dec 26 17:52:27 <AphelionZ> yeah... thanks for the feedback - i fixed all that and still my app crashes when i move to the text tab and rotate the phone
Dec 26 17:52:39 <SimonVT> Figure out which one it is
Dec 26 17:52:47 <AphelionZ> i believe it's the latter
Dec 26 17:53:45 <AphelionZ> so onTabSelected executes, the fragment is replaced, but even at line 102 in my pastie the list of fragments isn't correct - it lags  "one behind"
Dec 26 17:54:10 <AphelionZ> for example, the activity loads with PhotoFragment active, and the list of fragments is null
Dec 26 17:54:25 <AphelionZ> then, i switch to TextFragment by using the tabs, and the list of fragments contains PhotoFragment and no others
Dec 26 17:54:26 <AphelionZ> and so on
Dec 26 17:55:12 <SimonVT> Fragment transactions are posted, they don't happen immediately when you call commit
Dec 26 17:57:25 <datandroiddude> How come PreferenceScreen doesnt work in Android Studio
Dec 26 17:57:26 <datandroiddude> ?
Dec 26 18:03:31 <AphelionZ> SimonVT: how can I ensure that the transaction is posted before an orientation change?
Dec 26 18:06:31 <SimonVT> That's already ensured
Dec 26 18:06:51 <Flaiker> Hello. I am using Android Studio foor development and I have the following problem: If I try to run my app on my phone it doesnt do anything. I just get some Amazon app store errors in my log?! Works perfectly fine on emulator. Has anyone experienced this before?
Dec 26 18:12:52 <Flaiker> nvm i got it
Dec 26 18:13:04 <Flaiker> had mainactivity twice in my manifest
Dec 26 18:14:28 <AphelionZ> SimonVT: ...but it's not, because the fragment list is still incomplete at the time of theorientation change and findFragmentByTag still can't find it
Dec 26 18:15:12 <SimonVT> But it is
Dec 26 18:18:43 <vmusr> how can include utf-8 character in textview in the XML layout ?
Dec 26 18:28:29 <Looney> oh, boi I am super rich
Dec 26 18:28:46 <Looney> two clicks and I have two shiny cent on me from Admob
Dec 26 18:29:21 <storkme> holy
Dec 26 18:45:48 <autrilla> How can I have the scroll bar more to the right in my GridView? http://gyazo.com/d3b31e82b645f1d7df6925905d4f3ce9.png
Dec 26 18:49:40 <SimonVT> Set scrollBarStyle to outsideOverlay
Dec 26 18:50:41 <stateful> I have an app that's been in the app store for several years.  I originally targeted it for API level 8.  This app has a feature that lets users import a plain-text file into an sqlite database.  The files are usually pretty small.  I recently had a user try to import a 20MB file and the app crashed running out of memory.  I'm using a scanner to parse the file.  I found the android:largeHeap="true" option which fixes the problem
Dec 26 18:50:41 <stateful> this became available in API level 11.  Is it possible to have two APK's in the play store for the same app that targets different SDK's? so if a user with a v4.x device gets the version that allows the heap to get big but users with 2.x device can still see the app in the Play Store?
Dec 26 18:52:22 <SimonVT> You can add largeHeap to the manifest of an app that supports <11
Dec 26 18:52:26 <SimonVT> It just doesn't do anything <11
Dec 26 18:53:39 <SimonVT> But do you really need to load the entire file into memory?
Dec 26 18:56:38 <AphelionZ> still could use some help. here's my updated file: http://pastie.org/private/gnmmivolkzobrrqsfoejhw
Dec 26 18:56:42 <stateful> When I change the SDK to less that 11 ADT won't run it with a bunch of errors.  Can I set minSDK to 8 but target the higher SDK and have it still run?
Dec 26 18:57:26 <AphelionZ> I have a breakpoint at line 60. The app loads with the PhotoFragment and when i rotate the device, fragments contains one fragment (the PhotoFragment) and findFragmentByTag works perfectly
Dec 26 18:57:35 <SimonVT> Yes
Dec 26 18:57:36 <AphelionZ> then, I switch to the "Text" tab, and rotate the device back
Dec 26 18:57:36 <stateful> "do you really need to load the entire file into memory?" No, just line by line is fine but the problem is the data can have line breaks in it, I need to find the end of record indictor and stick it into a string to parse
Dec 26 18:57:50 <wilornel> Hey guys! I'm trying to debug an application here through Eclipse - ADT, but I am encountering "Class File Editor - Source not found" at some point during the session. I tells me I need to attach a new source. It's weird since I've never had to do so before, this error only occured after I changed something in the code...
Dec 26 18:58:06 <SimonVT> Read up on the difference between minsdk, targetsdk and build target: http://simonvt.net/2012/02/07/what-api-level-should-i-target/
Dec 26 18:58:14 <AphelionZ> same breakpoint. now fragments still contains the PhotoFragment (not the TextFragment) and findFragmentById returns null
Dec 26 18:58:20 <wilornel> How can I know what is this "something" that I have changed in the code?
Dec 26 18:59:02 <wilornel> "The JAR file D:
Dec 26 18:59:46 <SimonVT> stateful: Before you just add largeHeap you should really try if you can work around this.. e.g. by not loading the entire 20 MB into memory at the same time
Dec 26 18:59:50 <SimonVT> 20 MB is a lot of text
Dec 26 18:59:51 <stateful> SimonVT: currently I use the scanner to get the next line, which is appended to a StringBuilder and when I see the end of record indicator I parse the StringBuilder string, then zero it's length and continue.
Dec 26 18:59:55 <aep> oh man. the accelerometer data is just garbage, is it?
Dec 26 19:00:07 <wilornel> "The JAR file D:\dev\adt-bundle-windows-x86\sdk\platforms\android-4.2\android.jar has no source attachment. " I've tried some solutions on Stack Overflow, but with no good results... I think if I could just change some lines that are causing this problem, I should be fine
Dec 26 19:01:00 <wilornel> It's something about the DexFile.class, anyone knows anything about that class?
Dec 26 19:01:17 <stateful> SimonVT: yeah, I've had a few users do a few MB here and there and it's not a problem, this guy is trying to import 28K records that have 20 fields each.  Do you know of a Java file parser that will release memory as it moves along the file?
Dec 26 19:05:31 <SimonVT> You'd have to google that or wait for someone who knows
Dec 26 19:05:37 <SimonVT> I'm not sure how to do that off the top of my head
Dec 26 19:06:47 <autrilla> SimonVT, thank you very much :)
Dec 26 19:07:57 <stateful> SimonVT: Okay will do, thanks for the tips on the API level.
Dec 26 19:10:34 <AphelionZ> should I not be doing supportfragmentmanager stuff on onRestoreInstanceState, and if so.. where?
Dec 26 19:10:41 <Looney> would you people believe that YouTube to MP3/audio apps are being bought by peopl
Dec 26 19:11:01 <p_l> Looney: easily
Dec 26 19:11:02 <AphelionZ> its frustrating because all i want to to is maintain which tab is active during an orientation change :p
Dec 26 19:11:11 <p_l> a YT downloader was one of the earlier apps I had
Dec 26 19:12:06 <Looney> hmm, is there still need of one  :-P
Dec 26 19:12:16 <Looney> I can write one for you  ;-)
Dec 26 19:12:23 <p_l> Looney: nah, not really
Dec 26 19:12:39 <p_l> not big enough need for me to fork money over
Dec 26 19:12:49 <p_l> and quvi on laptop covers it well enough
Dec 26 19:12:54 <Looney> wrote myself an app to, somewhat circumnavigate YouTube blockage
Dec 26 19:13:11 <Looney> hehehe
Dec 26 19:13:22 <Looney> on laptop, there are many options ;-)
Dec 26 19:13:23 <p_l> n.b. VPN and proxy apps are going to be very popular in UK now :)
Dec 26 19:13:38 <Looney> I hear about the porn issue
Dec 26 19:13:46 <Looney> *heard
Dec 26 19:13:46 <p_l> Looney: it blocks much, much more
Dec 26 19:14:01 <p_l> including the page of the MP that spearheaded the issue
Dec 26 19:14:09 <Looney> hehehe
Dec 26 19:14:24 <Looney> it should be one's discretion what one wants to watch or not
Dec 26 19:14:24 <p_l> it's blocked for... being porn :)
Dec 26 19:15:17 <p_l> (because of how she talked constantly about pr0n)
Dec 26 19:16:00 <p_l> also a lot of other government websites, self-help, NGOs, services to help abused, news sites, etc. are blocked
Dec 26 19:16:46 <SimonVT> Can't take any chances, think of the children
Dec 26 19:17:48 <p_l> unfortunately not many people knew of the apropriate methods to harass MPs
Dec 26 19:18:20 <p_l> I couldn't, because I don't have voting rights for Westminster, only upto Holyrood
Dec 26 19:19:34 <p_l> the trick is to not send letters... but to actually got ones arse to London, go to Parliament building, and request a meeting. Apparently
Dec 26 19:19:45 <autrilla> Hmmm... Android Holo Colors generates v11 and v9, and action bar style generator v9 and v14... How do I use both?
Dec 26 19:20:19 <p_l> those that send letters would get copy-pasted responses and their letters not read :P
Dec 26 19:23:11 <Looney> but you people have the YouTube on your side
Dec 26 19:23:28 <Looney> is it working normally or the filtering has taken better of it
Dec 26 19:24:28 <p_l> it's because the filtering is dumb as hell
Dec 26 19:25:07 <autrilla> I mean, what do I do with the code on the v14 of the action bar? Put it on v11?
Dec 26 19:25:12 <Looney> it sure is
Dec 26 19:25:14 <autrilla> It gives errors if I do so
Dec 26 19:25:34 <autrilla> Or just toss it into the v14 folder and ignore v11?
Dec 26 19:25:37 <Looney> what do you think of this developer
Dec 26 19:25:42 <Looney> https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Sana
Dec 26 19:25:54 <Looney> I see that packages are not named
Dec 26 19:26:06 <Looney> so, amateur hour lot
Dec 26 19:26:25 <autrilla>  
Dec 26 19:26:25 <autrilla> Installs
Dec 26 19:26:25 <autrilla> 100,000 - 500,000
Dec 26 19:26:29 <autrilla> Heh
Dec 26 19:26:35 <autrilla> Not bad... apparently
Dec 26 19:27:28 <Looney> the question is that how many of these were legit
Dec 26 19:28:18 <Looney> I think that I will either get some googler to let me put my app on store
Dec 26 19:28:37 <Looney> for free or start some kickstarter/fundraiser
Dec 26 19:28:45 <Looney> for 25$
Dec 26 19:29:02 <autrilla> Looney, what's you app?
Dec 26 19:29:23 <Looney> its to circumnavigate the YouTube blockage
Dec 26 19:30:00 <Looney> the selling point is that you do not need to use any VPN or Proxy
Dec 26 19:30:16 <autrilla> Is it free? Ads?
Dec 26 19:30:20 <Looney> app is lightweight as it relies on MX Player for video playback
Dec 26 19:30:33 <Looney> well, the one on my phone is ad free
Dec 26 19:31:25 <Looney> did you not read early that I am filthy rich from the app advertisement using admob
Dec 26 19:31:37 <Looney> I have 2 shiny cents in the kitty
Dec 26 19:31:48 <autrilla> Ah
Dec 26 19:31:50 <TheBunny> WIN!
Dec 26 19:31:54 <autrilla> I'd put it on kickstarter
Dec 26 19:32:13 <TheBunny> funny you could make more $ clicking on your own ads
Dec 26 19:32:39 <Looney> but I think that it is not fair
Dec 26 19:32:58 <Looney> and it is possible for the Admob people to know that clicks are fake
Dec 26 19:33:43 * Looney won't admit that of the 2 cent he doubts one is from accidental click during testing
Dec 26 19:33:55 <TheBunny> lol
Dec 26 19:34:59 <Looney> well, lets see
Dec 26 19:35:09 <Looney> I tried to put in a word on reddit
Dec 26 19:35:16 <Looney> not much popular
Dec 26 19:35:27 <Looney> and will try to advertise on Twitter
Dec 26 19:38:58 <AphelionZ> got it! here's what I ended up with: http://pastie.org/private/30255nzrakrpwh4wa5gx8w
Dec 26 19:39:15 <AphelionZ> the trick was persisting the tab, not the fragment
Dec 26 19:59:39 <autrilla> Alright, just pasting v14 doesn't work.. I guess I have to do something to v11
Dec 26 20:24:00 <autrilla> Ah, there is no need to support Honeycomb!
Dec 26 20:25:18 <wilornel> Hey guys! I am completely confused here in front of that weird error. When I degu my program, I run into the error "Source code not found" for Arrays.class. Now, this only happens when the code reaches "byte[] ebuf1 = new byte[saveThat];" I check the value of saveThat and apparently it is an integer of 291165. So, I try and write that line right before the erronous statement: "byte[] abuf = new byte[291165];". And guess what, 
Dec 26 20:26:19 <wilornel> Anyone has any idea why I'm getting that?
Dec 26 20:29:58 <wilornel> Maybe it is because saveThat's value is unknown during compilation?
Dec 26 20:33:16 <duk3r> does anyone have a full navigation drawer tutorial? Need it as a basis for an app that I have in mind but can't find a good example
Dec 26 20:33:17 <DGMurdockIII> how dose android handdel bluetooth gamepads
Dec 26 20:33:48 <wilornel> what?
Dec 26 20:37:34 <DGMurdockIII> i dont know of a way to get an arbitrary bluetooth joy to show up in android
Dec 26 20:39:15 <DGMurdockIII> is there easy way i can code in gamepad support to my game like do you know of any libiray
Dec 26 20:43:12 <leslie> DGMurdockIII, I think there's something in the ApiDemos project
Dec 26 20:43:58 <DGMurdockIII> link
Dec 26 20:44:23 <leslie> please
Dec 26 20:44:29 <DGMurdockIII> please
Dec 26 20:44:32 <leslie> https://android.googlesource.com/platform/development/+/8f48506/samples/ApiDemos/src/com/example/android/apis/view/GameControllerInput.java
Dec 26 20:45:07 <DGMurdockIII> i also dont want to have to support each gamepad one by one maping the buttons
Dec 26 20:45:23 <leslie> ah, right. don't know then
Dec 26 21:06:29 <frankdrey> Is the internal sd group/user always 1023?
Dec 26 21:07:51 <leslie> I wouldn't count on it, frankdrey
Dec 26 21:07:59 <frankdrey> hmmm why not?
Dec 26 21:08:22 <leslie> because I don't think it's a fixed part of Android. it might vary between vendors
Dec 26 21:08:31 <frankdrey> hmmm alright
Dec 26 21:08:43 <frankdrey> thanks
Dec 26 21:13:29 <Octalot> I'm reading some new guidelines about games and media playing apps requesting android.permission.READ_PHONE_STATE just so that they can pause/mute during phone calls.  I think the guidelines are wrong, but can anyone think of a reason why the app can't just use AudioManager's audio focus instead of PhoneStateListener?  (These guidelines come from the UK's data protection authority (ICO).)
Dec 26 21:19:58 <SteveR> hello guys
Dec 26 21:21:10 <SteveR> anyone have already use reflectiivity    and mockito spy   for change access to a private methode please ?
Dec 26 21:21:41 <SteveR> reflexivity
Dec 26 21:22:39 <karab44> hello is there a fast way to remapp keys on phisical bt keyboard?
Dec 26 21:23:26 <karab44> *physical
Dec 26 21:24:25 <porten> Hi, when adding proguard to my application I get the following stacktrace http://pastebin.com/mJxRngtT
Dec 26 21:24:29 <orospakr> hey, what is the kosher way to do maven publish (to local repo, for now) of gradle-ized android-library projects (aar)?
Dec 26 21:25:36 <porten> has anyone ran into this problem or know what the proper spongycastle proguard settings are?
Dec 26 21:29:23 <|Agent_> Hey. I'm creating a layout in Android Studio. The preview window shows the app's title and the OS status bar. How do I get rid of that?
Dec 26 21:30:05 <porten> |Agent_: change the theme/style
Dec 26 21:30:11 <porten> referenced in your manifest
Dec 26 21:30:39 <|Agent_> ah, got it
Dec 26 21:30:41 <|Agent_> thanks
Dec 26 21:46:37 <karab44> tanks
Dec 26 21:47:02 <karab44> http://www.ascii-art.de/ascii/t/tank.txt
Dec 26 21:54:16 <Lekensteyn> Hi, has someone succeeded in running the emulator without AVD? E.g. emulator -sysdir .... -kernel ... -data ... ..etc..?
Dec 26 21:54:55 <Lekensteyn> I want to have something similar to qemu, give it a file (-cdrom foo.iso or -hda foo.img) and it will start immediately without having to create config files
Dec 26 21:55:56 <frankdrey> have you tried it?:p
Dec 26 21:56:32 <Lekensteyn> yes, but I am stuck at a black (ARM) emulator screen, it does not seem to do something useful (it burns CPU though)
Dec 26 21:56:38 <frankdrey> anyway, android emu is based off qemu
Dec 26 21:56:49 <p_l> Lekensteyn: attach logcat to it?
Dec 26 21:56:52 <Lekensteyn> yes, a heaviliy patched, ancient one :/
Dec 26 21:57:06 <Lekensteyn> p_l: If I only could get it to boot, -verbose and -debug-all are not helpful
Dec 26 21:57:25 <frankdrey> well that's not much detail
Dec 26 21:57:30 <frankdrey> what images are you using...etc?
Dec 26 21:58:56 <Lekensteyn> android-17 was something I already have (I tried it in the past too, to no avail).
Dec 26 21:59:17 <Lekensteyn> Right now I am using: emulator-arm -sysdir /opt/android-sdk/system-images/android-17/armeabi-v7a -kernel kernel-qemu -system system.img -ramdisk ramdisk.img -initdata userdata.img -data /tmp/acoc/userdata-qemu.img -nocache -sdcard /tmp/acoc/sdcard.img -skindir /opt/android-sdk/platforms/android-17/skins -skin WXGA800 -memory 1024 -partition-size 1024 -no-boot-anim -verbose
Dec 26 22:00:09 <Lekensteyn> Could not open file: /opt/android-sdk/system-images/android-17/armeabi-v7a/system/build.prop: No such file or directory
Dec 26 22:00:23 <Lekensteyn> that could be a hint
Dec 26 22:02:24 <frankdrey> check out how the avd config files do it?
Dec 26 22:19:40 <twiceaday> is there some automated way to test your app on multitude of devices at the same time?
Dec 26 22:20:28 <storkme> http://square.github.io/spoon/
Dec 26 22:20:57 <JakeWharton> Or just Gradle
Dec 26 22:22:22 <pfn> twiceaday, plug them all in, and run the test command against all of them
Dec 26 22:22:42 <pfn> intellij lets you select all usb devices when choosing run from usb
Dec 26 22:23:48 <storkme> i did not know that. neat.
Dec 26 22:24:42 <Masano> hi
Dec 26 22:24:59 <Masano> did i successfully login, please anyone tell me
Dec 26 22:25:12 <Masano> eg. is anyone seeing this?
Dec 26 22:25:19 <p_l> yes
Dec 26 22:25:27 <Masano> thanks
Dec 26 22:25:32 <storkme> embedding a webview in my app so people can log into twitter (for oauth authentication), bad idea, good idea?
Dec 26 22:26:49 <Masano> I have a question: if A extends B
Dec 26 22:27:01 <storkme> I'd really like to do it using the browser but I can't figure out how to manipulate the back stack so that it isn't all messed up.
Dec 26 22:27:17 <Masano> and then you do: new C(B)
Dec 26 22:27:33 <Masano> is that ok?
Dec 26 22:29:56 <Masano> I mean that in kitkat, android 4.4 they have introduced public RelativeLayout.LayoutParams (RelativeLayout.LayoutParams source),,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but I used to use the public RelativeLayout.LayoutParams (ViewGroup.LayoutParams source), but with a RelativeLayout.LayoutParams instead of a ViewGroup.LayoutParams, and that worked until the new constructor in kitkat android 4.4
Dec 26 23:06:32 <Dreeass> Does someone know how to check when a preference's popup in a fragment has been closed?
Dec 26 23:11:03 <Dreeass> Found it
Dec 26 23:11:37 <FernandoMiguel> uiii
Dec 26 23:14:52 <jnewt> i have a project that i did on a different computer about 3 months ago, and am trying to open on another laptop.  i downloaded android-studio.  do i need to get gradle from somewhere else?
Dec 26 23:15:51 <jnewt> or do i want to use a customizable gradle wrapper?
Dec 26 23:16:51 <wilornel_> Hmm... I'm getting a weird throw here.. I just get a new tab in my files editor showing "Source not found" in red, when I debug my application. I just added location mocking and that's what happens...
Dec 26 23:17:55 <wilornel_> I did add "<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.ACCESS_MOCK_LOCATION" /> " In my manifest file...
Dec 26 23:19:49 <jnewt> I have a gradle folder in the repository, but not sure how to or even if i should use this
Dec 26 23:20:52 <wilornel_> Apparently it is crashing because of the "mLocationClient.setMockMode(true)" line
Dec 26 23:27:14 <wilornel_> Source not found for Location Services, I think. It's weird, since I have them installed in Android SDK Manager
Dec 26 23:43:25 <gavilan2> Hello! I need to make a network call on a BroadcastReceiver on API 7... The docs say not to use async stuff there... My question is, if I put a sync network call on the onReceive method of a broadcast receiver, will that block the UI of my app while it's being executed?
Dec 26 23:56:33 <f2prateek_> gavilan2: yes (mostly)
Dec 26 23:57:23 <SimonVT> Start a service that does the networking
Dec 27 00:00:54 <gavilan2> k
Dec 27 00:00:55 <gavilan2> thx
Dec 27 00:01:49 <wilornel_> I don't understand... If I use http://developer.android.com/training/location/retrieve-current.html , do I still need to enable Location Updates?
Dec 27 00:29:36 <desmin88> Hey guys, whats your preferred method of not killing a fragment when you rotate the device? I have a list that gets data from a network, and I don't want to have to make more network requests than I have to
Dec 27 00:29:53 <desmin88> Some things I read say to set use the retaininstance
Dec 27 00:30:03 <desmin88> not sure if that is best
Dec 27 00:54:22 <clever> desmin88: i would save the data in onSaveInstanceState
Dec 27 00:55:02 <desmin88> clever: I thought of something like that, but its quite a large amount of data
Dec 27 00:55:17 <clever> desmin88: save it in sqlite and put an id into the bundle?
Dec 27 00:55:39 <desmin88> i thought of that too
Dec 27 00:55:56 <desmin88> but saving a shit ton of data right before a rotation, then just reloading it all again?
Dec 27 00:56:00 <desmin88> every time you rotate
Dec 27 00:56:14 <clever> save it to sqlite when you download
Dec 27 00:56:24 <clever> and cache a few of the rows in ram as needed
Dec 27 00:56:36 <clever> and store an id for the entire set in the bundle when you rotate
Dec 27 00:58:09 <desmin88> hmm
Dec 27 00:58:17 <clever> and idealy, sync the sqlite to the server, so you only download the changes
Dec 27 00:58:25 <clever> to limit the network bandwidth
Dec 27 01:10:51 <desmin88> cl
Dec 27 01:11:03 <desmin88> clever: I fixed it
Dec 27 01:11:44 <clever> :)
Dec 27 01:18:47 <desmin88> clever: Was always resetting my listdata/adapter in onCreateView no matter what, just check if those were already created and if so, set to it
Dec 27 01:27:53 <I440r> im starting to fucking hate this fucking NDK
Dec 27 01:28:35 <I440r> no fucking example codes for anything other than  28475723482 line of "this is how you do it" or 5 lines of "this is 45% of what you need to know to do it"
Dec 27 01:29:14 <desmin88> >NDK
Dec 27 01:29:25 <desmin88> what do you expect, heh
Dec 27 01:32:16 <I440r> i would rather have some helpful comments instead of snite bullshit comments like yours
Dec 27 01:32:24 <I440r> but i guess thats also too much to expect
Dec 27 01:32:28 <desmin88> oh relax
Dec 27 01:32:34 <desmin88> i was making a sarcastic joke
Dec 27 01:32:38 <I440r> no shit
Dec 27 01:33:00 <shmooz> my problem is MediaStore finds and plays the .avi files fine on my 2.3 phone, but on my 4.4.2 Nexus 7 tablet it finds the .avi and can't display the thumbnail or play the video for some reason
Dec 27 01:33:13 <jmfurlott> How do I download the 4.4 sdk to use with Android studio? I can't find the simple docs on this
Dec 27 01:33:35 <desmin88> jmfurlott: sdk manager, select 4.4 and download
Dec 27 01:33:48 <jmfurlott> desmin88: I am an idiot
Dec 27 01:34:04 <desmin88> :)
Dec 27 01:34:34 <shmooz> if it was the other way around where the 2.3 phone can't find or play the .avi files I'd understand because it's older, well MediaStore finds them, but I use VideoView to play them
Dec 27 01:35:15 <desmin88> shmooz: Both devices can find the avi file correctly?
Dec 27 01:35:44 <shmooz> desmin88: actually there are three .avi files, the Nexus 7 only finds 2 of them, the old htc phone finds all three
Dec 27 01:35:58 <desmin88> hmm
Dec 27 01:36:21 <shmooz> and the htc phone finds the thumbnails fine too, but reports 0:00 for duration :(
Dec 27 01:36:54 <desmin88> is avi supported on android?
Dec 27 01:37:07 <shmooz> the Nexus 7 shows black for thumbnails and 0:00 duration which is incorrect
Dec 27 01:37:07 <desmin88> i thought it wasnt
Dec 27 01:37:14 <desmin88> shmooz: http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html
Dec 27 01:37:24 <shmooz> well why is the MediaStore finding them if they are not supported
Dec 27 01:37:26 <desmin88> could that be your issue?
Dec 27 01:37:33 <desmin88> No I mean why you cannot play them
Dec 27 01:37:47 <shmooz> I use the default VideoView to play them
Dec 27 01:37:56 <desmin88> does videoview support avi
Dec 27 01:38:07 <I440r> can anyone and i mean ANYONE show me a 100% complete example of how to read ONE asset file from assets into a buffer using native C code.  the only examples i can find are 80% incomplete or 86582654926458 lines of obfuscated bullshit google example code that does 400 billion different things and buries that ONE FUCKING THING i need to know inside too much TLDR bullshit
Dec 27 01:38:10 <shmooz> and the same app plays it fine on the old phone but not the new tablet
Dec 27 01:38:14 <I440r> why the fuck is this so fucking hard!!!!!!!!!!!
Dec 27 01:38:36 <desmin88> I440r: raging doesnt help
Dec 27 01:38:42 <stolaruk> such language
Dec 27 01:38:44 <shmooz> well I'd imagine MediaStore would only find the video files that VideoView could play
Dec 27 01:38:47 <desmin88> much rage
Dec 27 01:38:52 <stolaruk> so anger
Dec 27 01:38:54 <desmin88> shmooz: I think mediastore can find any file
Dec 27 01:39:06 <desmin88> Perhaps the older device supports avi playback, the newer one does not?
Dec 27 01:39:12 <I440r> this should be a 10 minute job. ive only spent 3 days on it so far
Dec 27 01:39:53 <shmooz> yes but I'm asking for MediaStore.Video.VideoColumns.*
Dec 27 01:39:54 <stolaruk> I440r: Happens to the best of us from time to time, I'm afraid.
Dec 27 01:40:26 <stolaruk> I'm afraid I can't answer your question.
Dec 27 01:40:29 <stolaruk> :(
Dec 27 01:40:50 <shmooz> and why can my old 2.3 phone play the .avi file just fine with VideoView, but not the tablet
Dec 27 01:40:55 <shmooz> ?
Dec 27 01:41:07 <desmin88> phased out support?
Dec 27 01:41:12 <I440r> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4779955/android-assets-c-jni  <-- way to give a completely useles bullshit NON answer to a simple direct question...
Dec 27 01:41:15 <desmin88> idk
Dec 27 01:42:12 <I440r> http://blog.sephiroth.it/2010/10/24/reading-resource-files-from-native-code/   <--- or instead of simply reading assets how about we manually extract compressed data directly out of the APK file iteself !!!
Dec 27 01:42:40 <shmooz> desmin88: if that's the case I guess I'll have to check for version and exclude .avi files on newer devices
Dec 27 01:44:01 <desmin88> I440r, alternatively, dont use the ndk :p
Dec 27 01:46:17 <shmooz> or play it using another container like ffmpeg which will take me another year to figure out probably
Dec 27 01:54:13 <piracyd3> Hey, rookie here. Should I go develop with Android Bootstrap (github/donnfelker/android-bootstrap) or build from scratch?
Dec 27 01:57:49 <desmin88> just do it from scratch
Dec 27 01:59:28 <jnewt> where should i set gradle home to (opening a previously developed project (don't know where it was originally).  i tried C:\Users\jnewt\.gradle and some of it's sub-directories, but android studio just says it's incorrect
Dec 27 02:01:35 <jnewt> the project has a build.gradle and a gradle directory at the root
Dec 27 02:01:49 <jnewt> not sure what / if i need to pay any attention to that
Dec 27 02:02:05 <jnewt> i just want to get to updating the code as easily as possible
Dec 27 02:03:19 <jnewt> ah, it seems the project uses 1.7, which is too old apparently
Dec 27 02:03:43 <jnewt> (wants 1.9 or later)
Dec 27 02:10:43 <jnewt> is gradle to be treated as separate from android studio / the project, or is one or the other dependent on the version?
Dec 27 02:12:07 <jnewt> maybe this is an uncommon issue?
Dec 27 02:23:20 <CocoStorm> hello friends
Dec 27 02:24:23 <shmooz> hi
Dec 27 02:31:18 <desmin88> I wonder how many nested viewpagers you can have
Dec 27 02:38:40 <nk1g> I fear "I'm doing it wrong" .... Here's my context
Dec 27 02:39:16 <nk1g> For an application that talks to a server, the user needs to Authenticate -- this may be triggered from one of many different Activities
Dec 27 02:39:28 <nk1g> I'd like to avoid repeating myself
Dec 27 02:40:05 <desmin88> perhaps a service
Dec 27 02:40:33 <nk1g> I've got a subclass of Authenticator, which I instantiate a single instance of in a subclass of Application
Dec 27 02:40:46 <desmin88> oh
Dec 27 02:40:49 <nk1g> (this is all code that is working, btw)
Dec 27 02:41:16 <Nilium> desmin88: Let me know when you've conducted the nest-all-the-viewpagers experiment.
Dec 27 02:41:17 <nk1g> but I'm not happy with where it's going to go when I start adding new Activity classes
Dec 27 02:41:38 <Nilium> Not because it matters but because it sounds insane
Dec 27 02:41:39 <desmin88> Nilium: ok, added to the list
Dec 27 02:42:07 <Nilium> May also be the viewpagers-all-the-way-down experiment.
Dec 27 02:45:09 <nk1g> So, here's the rub -- I have a place in my Authenticator subclass when I'm responding to getPasswordAuthentication() that would be A Good Place to fire off a dialog and say "Hey User -- Give me some password"
Dec 27 02:46:07 <nk1g> but, because the Context of that call is an inner class in MyApplication - I'm confused as to how I would go about instantiating either a DialogFragment or, in the alternative an Activity with the "be more like a dialog" theme
Dec 27 02:46:53 <nk1g> (the current app is using the latter -- I've got an Activity and set the -- whatever the attribute is up in the manifest to make it float like a dialog .. I can look it up if it's a vital clue)
Dec 27 02:57:30 <Insanity|Severen> Does anyone reccommend languages to learn for Android development? I'm currently in the process of learning Java but what are some other languages that may be useful? C and XML?
Dec 27 02:58:24 <desmin88> C for ndk?
Dec 27 02:59:07 <shmooz> Insanity|Severen: appearantly you can use scala
Dec 27 02:59:28 <Insanity|Severen> You can use Scala in Android development?
Dec 27 02:59:37 <shmooz> yes
Dec 27 02:59:45 <Insanity|Severen> Cool
Dec 27 02:59:51 <Insanity|Severen> Sounds interesting
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