**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 29 02:59:58 2013 Dec 29 03:04:29 hehe, funny from #freenode " I'm like 90% sure my robot Phong had his nickname registered for a long time" Dec 29 03:05:20 so maybe phong is a robot :D Dec 29 03:05:29 where is he, not here heh Dec 29 03:06:15 Tune in now for another episode of pointless information with g00s Dec 29 03:06:51 Does anyone know how to get an image form a url to show up in a widget? This is what I am attempting at the moment http://pastebin.com/1Jk6zKPr Dec 29 03:11:35 searayman56: I just skimmed your code but that's the right idea--kick off a background thread (AsyncTask, IntentService, whatever) which does the loading and updates the widget once it's loaded Dec 29 03:12:18 evanc, if I take out the image part all my text sets and updates nicely in the widget. But with the image part nothing gets set, its like it gets stuck. Dec 29 03:12:51 evanc, this has literally been stumping me all day. I have tried like 4 different ways to do this, Dec 29 03:15:47 let me look at your code again Dec 29 03:16:01 evanc, no worries, let me know if you need to see anything else Dec 29 03:16:53 searayman56: oh, you're running getImageBitmap in onPostExecute (which runs on the UI thread) Dec 29 03:17:04 you need to do that in doInBackground and pass it from there to onPostExecute Dec 29 03:17:32 also, press ctrl+shift+f (if you're using eclipse) :P Dec 29 03:18:03 evanc, using android studio Dec 29 03:18:51 ah, well use whatever the keyboard shortcut is to format your code, haha Dec 29 03:18:51 evanc, ok that makes sense to me a little bit. I will play around with some of the code. Can I just drop all that code into do in background? Dec 29 03:19:18 searayman56: yeah, it's safe to run AppWidgetManager#updateAppWidget from the background thread Dec 29 03:19:32 so really you don't need onPostExecute, probably Dec 29 03:20:59 hi all Dec 29 03:21:23 evanc, actually looks like I can't drop all that code in there. I am getting a string of json from the url I send with when I execute this async task and I can't seem to get that in the background thread Dec 29 03:21:57 hmmm I am a little confused on how to organize this all now Dec 29 03:25:21 searayman56: again, quick skim here, but why won't something like this work? public class FooTask { protected Void doInBackground(...) { String jsonCrap = readJSONFeed(..); /* build the widget */ mgr.updateAppWWidget(ids, views); } } Dec 29 03:25:44 I cut out a lot of code, but I'm hoping you see what I'm talking about Dec 29 03:26:16 lol looking at it now. I am a pretty new programmer so sometimes things just don't pop out Dec 29 03:26:29 no worries, you seem to be making good progress Dec 29 03:26:59 if you can't figure it out, let me know and I'll make it a better example, haha (I won't spoon-feed you and hand you a solution, though :P) Dec 29 03:27:53 evanc, no worries, I appreciate the help. I think the whole image thing having to be in the background thread will help a lot. I just have to figure out how to split up my code Dec 29 03:29:40 like I said, I don't think it needs to be split up :) Dec 29 03:29:47 evanc, just to clarify to make sure I am tracking, is the string that is returned from the background thread what is passed to the OnPostExecute? if I so i think i know how to make this happen Dec 29 03:30:06 try assigning readJSONFeed(..) to a variable in doInBackground and see if that helps you understand Dec 29 03:30:12 searayman56: yes, it is Dec 29 03:30:31 whatever is returned from doInBackground gets passed in to onPostExecute Dec 29 03:30:40 evanc, awesome I now think I agree with you that it does not need to be split up. I will give it a go and let you know how I end up lol Dec 29 03:30:45 great! Dec 29 03:34:20 evanc, :-) got it! Thanks for the tips in guiding me. I just had to move this String result = readJSONFeed(arg0[0]); from the return statement and put it in front of all the code I moved up!!! Dec 29 03:34:29 searayman56: yep! Dec 29 03:34:34 glad to hear that you got it worked out Dec 29 03:35:12 evanc, I can now say I have successfully coded my first android widget! Thanks again for the help, got a lot more widgets in mind now. Dec 29 03:35:25 wooo, glad to hear it! Dec 29 03:35:36 anyone used a datepicker in android studio? Dec 29 03:36:06 the preview thing just gives me a nullpointerexception Dec 29 03:37:03 I also just get java.lang.ClassCastException: android.widget.TextView cannot be cast to android.widget.CalendarView$WeekView Dec 29 03:37:16 when I run it.. I'm don't even have anything code related yet Dec 29 03:37:24 all I've done is place the datepicker in the layout Dec 29 03:37:59 AS runs any faster than eclipse? Dec 29 03:38:08 java IDEs make java straight PAINFUL.... Dec 29 03:38:39 Does a notification system poll constantly, or is there a way to push-to-phone? Dec 29 03:38:56 s3b`: google for GCM Dec 29 03:39:07 lookup google cloud messaging Dec 29 03:39:08 gcm maintains a connection Dec 29 03:39:23 AS runs any faster than eclipse? Dec 29 03:39:33 no not really Dec 29 03:39:38 damn... Dec 29 03:39:39 you also have to delete R.java still Dec 29 03:39:41 worst thing ever Dec 29 03:40:01 o_o Dec 29 03:40:32 and you can't add a datepicker Dec 29 03:41:13 anyone use something better than androidscreencast? Dec 29 03:41:22 why is it always the stupid things that take so long Dec 29 03:41:34 write a contentprovider? no problem Dec 29 03:41:43 add a datepicker to a layout? 2 days thanks Dec 29 03:43:19 Hey guys. I don't think I saw an answer. Hope you don't mind me asking again... Dec 29 03:43:32 trying to intercept http://mysite.com links to launch my app Dec 29 03:43:50 I put the changes in the AndroidManifest.xml to have each activity handle a different link Dec 29 03:44:09 but it isn't working...Android isn't prompting me to use my app to open the link. Just other apps that also handle that link Dec 29 03:44:25 Any ideas why that might be? I have the BROWSABLE category Dec 29 03:44:26 prgmmax: pastebin your manifest Dec 29 03:44:33 k, one sec Dec 29 03:45:34 and are broken in this version of the rendering library. Try updating your SDK in the SDK Manager when issue 59732 is fixed. Dec 29 03:45:37 lol. Dec 29 03:46:29 haha wabz Dec 29 03:46:32 hope you don't mind, I gotta edit it up a bit to rename things Dec 29 03:46:39 keeping the same content, just trying to hide names Dec 29 03:46:51 i just had eclipse bork my app cos it didn;t update R.java Dec 29 03:47:00 kept saying cannot cast LinearLayout to a Switch Dec 29 03:47:21 prgmmax: btw, if you watch logcat when clicking a link, it'll spit out what the intent looks like. it's pretty useful to see what's wrong with your filter Dec 29 03:47:22 and now finally i'm back to the exact same codes + layouts as before and it obviously works fine Dec 29 03:49:08 I'm keeping thinks as accurate as possible. For example, mysite.com/foo and mysite.com/foo/bar the links were indeed like that...the /bar one was a subdir of the other Dec 29 03:52:38 http://pastebin.com/JcSLD6KM Dec 29 04:00:29 when i run in an emulator, i get an error (could not access the Package Manager. Is the system running?) Dec 29 04:00:44 evanc hrmm k, I'll check. Thanks Dec 29 04:30:28 Is there any way to actually "push" messages to devices from my own server? I do not want to poll the server, but need a "real push"! :) Dec 29 04:30:45 I came across this : http://mqtt.org/ Dec 29 04:30:54 With GCM Dec 29 04:30:55 but I'm not sure how efficient it is Dec 29 04:31:45 so far I know phones cannot be connected to Dec 29 04:31:46 from internet side that is Dec 29 04:31:46 phone have to connect and set connections to server Dec 29 04:33:32 SimonVT: I came across GCM and C2DM Dec 29 04:33:39 but I need this to be on my own server Dec 29 04:33:51 XXCoder: That was a good pointer Dec 29 04:34:06 but I'm curios about how mqtt works Dec 29 04:34:13 I would love to know if there was a way for phones to find and connect to each other without server in middlke Dec 29 04:34:29 There are thirdparty solutions like Parse Push or Airpush Dec 29 04:34:46 You need your own server to use gcm, the messages just go through google Dec 29 04:34:47 but I'm more curious about their architecture. Dec 29 04:35:03 Airpush seems to be polling their server though. Dec 29 04:35:11 SimonVT: I see Dec 29 04:35:18 let me read more about it Dec 29 04:35:30 yeah just read about it Dec 29 04:35:31 probably not for android Dec 29 04:35:31 but then dunno Dec 29 04:36:22 alright Dec 29 04:37:06 isn't GCM just a long keep alive connection? Dec 29 04:38:30 dodobrain: ok, if that is the case, it might not be a power efficient solution, right? Dec 29 04:38:38 hrmmm I looked at the logcat and didn't see anything Dec 29 04:38:38 oh well Dec 29 04:38:38 I gotta go Dec 29 04:38:38 catch ya later, everyone Dec 29 04:39:26 GCM is the most power efficient solution, since it uses a connection that is already there on all android devices Dec 29 04:39:51 But yeah, I believe it's basically just a long lived connection Dec 29 04:40:00 SimonVT: And I hope it is not tied to the Play service Dec 29 04:40:26 It's tied to having google apps, so kinda? Dec 29 04:40:41 alright Dec 29 04:41:07 I don't know if it's part of play services Dec 29 04:41:46 If yes, that could limit the availability on the out-of-google-ecosystem devices, I suppose Dec 29 04:42:21 It would be non-existant Dec 29 04:42:35 SimonVT, not necessarily the most power efficient solution.. Dec 29 04:42:55 SimonVT: Kindle fire could be an example Dec 29 04:43:06 that connection to goog prolly has other payloads too Dec 29 04:43:27 I'm referring mainly to this question : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10449930/send-push-notifications-on-android-without-using-c2dm Dec 29 04:43:37 so if you don;t maintain a persistent connection to goog (for google play, etc.) then having your own long lived connections would be more power efficient Dec 29 04:44:15 as of version N, apparently it works without an active Google account Dec 29 04:44:16 SimonVT, yes it is.. in the newer sdk you cannot use push messaging without utilising goog play services Dec 29 04:44:44 where N is some value less than the current version number Dec 29 04:45:03 check your sdk manager, GCM for android library is deprecated Dec 29 04:45:47 anyway, if you desperately want *all* android devices to support your push messaging (as long as they can run your android app) regardless of whether they have a goog account on the phone/tablet or whether they are signed in, etc. , then your own server with long lived connections is definitely the way to go Dec 29 04:46:50 i don't even know why goog bothered with gcm Dec 29 04:47:06 they would have made a far more kickass product if they wrote a standalone server for such and released it as oss Dec 29 04:47:06 and ofcourse used the very same thing for gcm Dec 29 04:47:23 would have allowed app makers to control all data to/from the device with regards to their own app Dec 29 04:47:44 dodobrain: alright Dec 29 05:01:16 Unlike your app, the gcm connection won't be killed Dec 29 05:01:37 sure, but unlike your own server, goog gets to see your messages :) Dec 29 05:02:51 Which would just be "call me maybe" Dec 29 05:03:03 the vast majority of messages aren't important enough for that to matter Dec 29 05:03:08 sure in most cases Dec 29 05:03:23 if they're that important... run your own server, take the hit Dec 29 05:03:45 exactly.. Dec 29 05:12:28 i've got a timepickerdialog that i use to grab an hour and minute. Is there a quick way to check how many hours/minutes away this time is relative to the current time? Dec 29 05:34:02 my app calls invalidate() on a custom ViewGroup several times... for some reason, the first time it's called causes the app to stop processing anything for maybe a half second... after that, it runs smooth... why would this be? Dec 29 05:37:43 setting a TextView text color is included in the problem... makes the app hiccup only the first time Dec 29 05:53:51 I have added a comment to this, can someone try to answer it for me please Dec 29 05:53:53 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15350998/determine-addaction-click-for-android-notifications Dec 29 05:54:26 question is: where and how do you set YES_ACTION, NO_ACTION... etc... And what will the manifist file look like – Dec 29 06:48:51 good day Dec 29 06:50:58 its night here but good all the same :-) Dec 29 07:06:22 Should I be registering enums under res/values even if they're for internal non-activity use? Dec 29 07:29:54 Just to put it on your radar. : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20822974/setting-up-broadcastreceiver-using-android-notifications Dec 29 08:00:39 ahoy hoy! Anyone here a tasker user? Dec 29 08:05:09 anyone? Dec 29 08:05:45 * capella is so bored he's watching Freaks of Nature on the Weather Channel Dec 29 08:07:07 hey all ..nice to b here Dec 29 08:07:11 \m/ Dec 29 08:09:02 can checkboxes inside Alert Dialog added using dialog.setMultiChoice be styled without layout.xml ? Dec 29 08:15:10 capella moz has some great pages on ssl / pki Dec 29 08:15:56 Ah :) You focus on the security related issues? Dec 29 08:17:20 capella need to make sure my app is secure ;) Dec 29 08:17:22 moz has a lot of great resources .. and the online docs are really improving Dec 29 08:18:26 this page was good https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Introduction_to_Public-Key_Cryptography Dec 29 08:18:38 I like to turn security over to other people :D Dec 29 08:18:49 i'm paranoid so its a good fit ;) Dec 29 08:18:51 You know, "smarter ones" Dec 29 08:18:56 except that Dec 29 08:19:15 hey, even paranoids have enemies :) Dec 29 08:19:26 only the paranoid survive :) Dec 29 08:20:29 hehe - not paranoid, but I do respect that we all have something to conceal Dec 29 08:22:21 so g00s: suggest any open source java projects ? It's either that or I have to port a moz app to Metro Dec 29 08:22:27 capella last week i was reading a few research papers about how many apps have broken ssl implementations (both ios and android). its surprisingly tricky to get this all right. and even though 4.1 has TLS 1.1 and 1.2 its not enabled by default, so if you just getDefault("TLS") you'll get the 1.0 engine Dec 29 08:22:59 i'm using spongy castle atm Dec 29 08:23:13 hmm, open source java projects ... Dec 29 08:23:20 Get out! Any good? Dec 29 08:23:56 spongy castle is bouncy castle with a renamed provider SC vs BC Dec 29 08:24:02 so its works on all androids Dec 29 08:24:21 without conflicts, without cares about what openssl version is there, etc, or legacy bouncy castle Dec 29 08:24:56 * capella reads the wiki Dec 29 08:26:16 capella also, some dubious changes were made to the default cipher list that requires some care on your part to correct. if you don't take care of it, it defaults to something easily crackable Dec 29 08:27:06 by default, the client 's preferences are chosen for the cipher so … if you say you want some crappy RC4 you'll get it .. Dec 29 08:27:19 unless the server was specifically configured to prefer /its/ list Dec 29 08:28:03 so yeah, seeing all this, hard to trust any software unless its been seriously vetted for Dec 29 08:28:12 oh. nothing like it includes the NSA developed recently cracked AES thing? Dec 29 08:30:32 one sec Dec 29 08:30:37 me too Dec 29 08:32:07 they are using RC4 and MD5 as their first defaults Dec 29 08:35:33 capella luckily FF doesn't use the default cipher list :) Dec 29 08:35:40 or chome Dec 29 08:36:41 I think I'd heard that in ARS before, but I'd be dumbfounded if that wasn't the case :) Dec 29 08:39:04 capella trying to think of a cool java open source thing you could do Dec 29 08:39:27 if you like M2M, and i think internet of things is taking off, you could join the eclipse paho group Dec 29 08:39:37 meh - bugs are bugs ... show me the list Dec 29 08:40:17 capella what list ? Dec 29 08:40:31 * g00s doesn't understand Dec 29 08:40:46 vernacular :) Dec 29 08:41:51 means like: "Ready for something new" Dec 29 08:42:41 * capella will look at eclipse paho group inna bit Dec 29 09:08:46 capella whats going on with thunderbird? still alive or what ? Dec 29 09:09:10 v.24.2.0, released: December 10, 2013 --- looks alive Dec 29 09:09:53 mmm ... not sure what the official term is but it's no longer supported by moz directly ... there's like a support group though Dec 29 09:10:07 O.o Dec 29 09:10:26 I don't want to say EOL Dec 29 09:11:06 Updates still occur and I love the thing :D Dec 29 09:21:57 How should I change fragment when a click is performed on an UI element? Dec 29 09:34:11 Hi, can I somehow do this in java/android? http://underscorejs.org/#throttle Dec 29 09:36:27 Hmm, maybe it's not what I want... I want to cache the method's return value for limited amount of time. Dec 29 09:37:21 sure, I can write it myself, but I thought there might be some generic solution for this. Dec 29 09:43:29 Pitel well, you probably won't want to drag in rxjava just for this, but Observable..interval() or .generate() may be something of interest Dec 29 09:44:42 hm, maybe this isn't the same thing Dec 29 09:47:04 Pitel it would be pretty easy to do , i think , with a handler Dec 29 09:47:11 well, I want to use it with SOAP client. It tends to run lot of same SOAP request in a short amount of time (like, cheching for some status from different threads) and I want to cache the response for like 3 seconds to save bandwidth and CPU. So maybe I can do that on HTTP "layer". Dec 29 09:48:19 ok. maybe you will find RxJava useful in general then Dec 29 09:48:38 great for that kind of thing Dec 29 09:58:14 huh, there was a gradle plugin release dec 26 Dec 29 10:15:51 hello does anyone know a reliable way not to crash the device openning up a specific sms thread on api < 14 ? Dec 29 10:19:36 lasserix: blow up your laptop Dec 29 10:20:08 it'll do that itself in time, starting to sound like a semi truck ;p Dec 29 10:40:37 How should I change fragment when a click is performed on an UI element? Dec 29 11:18:44 hi all Dec 29 11:19:37 someone could suggest me a book to learn android development ? I come from c++ and I know java. I'm interested in something that will expose the framework from the design point of view. Dec 29 11:24:07 best learning tool is to attach the android source to your IDE. step through what it does when committing fragments, etc. pro android 4 is also a good book. Dec 29 11:43:34 Hey guys is there a way I can display some Emelent in my UI XML Files only if some value is gien? Dec 29 11:43:36 *given Dec 29 11:59:17 Is there such a thing as parent fragments? Like parent activities, in that when you press the back button you are taken back to it Dec 29 12:04:59 https://gist.github.com/Yatekii/09ec16980731ee51c09a can I manipulate a ListItems View based on some Values I pass? :S Dec 29 12:06:22 Yatekii, extend BaseAdapter Dec 29 12:13:04 autrilla: so I create my own adapter class? ty Dec 29 12:13:12 Yes Dec 29 12:18:21 kk Dec 29 12:38:39 autrilla: https://gist.github.com/Yatekii/bed48809875b627aa28b where does that mShow come from? because it was in the tut I found but it is not recogized by my ide Dec 29 12:40:38 that getView() method is just one in a larger class, the mShow, mContext names suggest a class scope Dec 29 12:41:04 capella: I do not understand :S Dec 29 12:41:43 well maybe the example I have is faulty but I do not think so, so why does it not recognize my mShow? :S Dec 29 12:45:00 mFoo is a common way of denoting class members available to class methods Dec 29 12:45:02 http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mobile/android/base/tests/UITest.java?mark=46-50#33 Dec 29 12:51:46 capella: but it seems it is not available :) Dec 29 13:27:25 My app creates events using CalendarContract. Later on I need to find the events my app has created. Is there a field that I can use? API v16 does not have the UID field. Dec 29 13:34:35 how do I get a loaderManager from an AppWidgetProvider? Dec 29 13:36:36 I don't think I can :( Dec 29 13:36:52 appwidgetprovider is so povo Dec 29 14:05:14 how do i check what's causing interface delays in my app? Dec 29 14:09:32 Hi, I have a AutoCompleteTextView and in my XML file I've tried to define the nextFocusForward/up/down/left/right fields, but when I edit the field and hit the "next" button, nothing happens. It works ok with other EditText. why? Dec 29 14:11:37 nevermind! apparently android:imeOptions="actionNext" fixed that. Dec 29 14:54:27 hi all Dec 29 14:54:35 i would like to ask about one thing Dec 29 14:55:57 if i have message from dalvikvm which says Could not find method android.graphics.Bitmap.getByteCount referenced from method com.image.cache.util.ImageCache.getBitmapSize Dec 29 14:56:04 does it mean that i added Dec 29 14:56:25 google-play-services_lib in wrong way or what am i doing wrong? Dec 29 14:56:32 i am trying to compile this Dec 29 14:56:54 http://codecanyon.net/item/apartment-real-estate-android-full-app-source-code/5010512 Dec 29 14:56:59 i am complete noob Dec 29 14:57:23 it was running one time now i am getting some errors in logcat Dec 29 14:57:28 and on the phone that i am trying to run it on i get Dec 29 14:58:44 The Application (process com.uidesigns.main) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again. Dec 29 15:11:32 hey guys Dec 29 15:11:42 I'm trying to use holo-color with abs Dec 29 15:11:52 but I'm running into issues here Dec 29 15:12:04 hi brickhead Dec 29 15:12:18 looks like everybody is sleeping Dec 29 15:12:19 hey twiceaday Dec 29 15:12:26 nobody reacts to my lame questions :) Dec 29 15:12:30 I'm using this link as reference http://www.androiduipatterns.com/2012/09/creating-custom-android-styles-easy-way.html Dec 29 15:13:25 twiceaday, run lint Dec 29 15:13:42 you're most likely using a api on an unsupported plateform Dec 29 15:14:18 brickhead: Elaborate on the issues you're facing or better yet, stop using ABS and go for minSdk=15 Dec 29 15:14:50 kakazza, I still have customers on 2.3 Dec 29 15:15:00 so stuck with min-sdk 8 Dec 29 15:15:11 That's sdk 10. Dec 29 15:15:12 interesting looking at it Dec 29 15:15:13 How many? Dec 29 15:15:16 thank you for help Dec 29 15:15:52 You could make use of the multiple APK feature from the Play Store, leave 2.3 customers on the current version and provide updates for ≥15. Dec 29 15:16:18 ah, the device hell in android. Dec 29 15:16:39 Which problems are you facing, anyway? (I'm just mentioning minSdk=15 because it's times like this where your time could be better spend making your app better using newer APIs instead of backporting styles). Dec 29 15:19:16 kakazza, so I'm trying to use holo-color and abs style generator to generate similar themes for my app Dec 29 15:19:16 how this works is I point my app theme to one theme and inherit it from the other one Dec 29 15:19:16 as per this link http://www.androiduipatterns.com/2012/09/creating-custom-android-styles-easy-way.html Dec 29 15:19:21 so when abs theme extends the holo-color theme Dec 29 15:19:28 search view breaks Dec 29 15:20:27 And you read through http://actionbarsherlock.com/theming.html? Dec 29 15:20:51 now i am finding out Dec 29 15:21:08 that what i have wrong possibly is that i am trying to run sdk 4.4 on the mobile phone Dec 29 15:21:26 htc desire that is extremelly old and not updated Dec 29 15:21:29 brickhead: When generating the theme, did you pick "Style compatibility: Sherlock"? Dec 29 15:21:40 i have also asus transformer Dec 29 15:21:53 which should be more recent but eclipse doesnt seem to recognize it Dec 29 15:21:55 twiceaday: That doesn't make sense. What you might be trying to do is using newer APIs on older platforms. Dec 29 15:22:10 Is that what you mean? Dec 29 15:22:59 where is something like target Dec 29 15:23:13 like where i say that i want to do this for this system and above Dec 29 15:23:36 because imho this is my problem i am telling in source and to eclipse i want to run it from this android and above Dec 29 15:23:44 and actually device is even lower version IMHO Dec 29 15:24:34 Lint usually tells you when you're trying to use APIs that aren't available in your minSdkVersion. Dec 29 15:25:44 The AndroidManifest.xml tells your app minSdkVersion and targetSdkVersion. This does not have anything to do with the build target version. You can still compile apps with minSdkVersion=15 with the API 19 build target. Dec 29 15:25:57 nice Dec 29 15:26:00 thank you Dec 29 15:26:04 http://simonvt.net/2012/02/07/what-api-level-should-i-target/ Dec 29 15:26:08 oldie but goodie Dec 29 15:26:08 i have to go away for 120 minutes Dec 29 15:26:17 then i am back i will take a look at that link also Dec 29 15:28:56 what's the most efficient way to simply draw a rectangle and text to a View? use a TextView and a ShapeDrawable? use Paint? Dec 29 15:29:10 i'm gonna have a lot of these so memory/cpu is important Dec 29 15:30:30 kakazza, I think I did but i might be mistaken Dec 29 15:45:41 I'm having a moment where I have no fucking idea what is wrong with my code Dec 29 15:46:07 It should parse a long into a date like it does in one activity but it doesn't do it in another. Wut? Dec 29 15:57:51 Fire up your debugger. Dec 29 16:03:08 The thing is that I have so many debug lines written for it, that the debug is 5,000+ lines hahahaha Dec 29 16:03:18 I'm probably overlooking something Dec 29 16:07:36 Hi all, I need help in a grid view: I want to show custom selector for the items of the gridview for the checked/selected and pressed state. Dec 29 16:08:19 The grid view has a CAB so I want to basically show the user which items are selected (checked) at the time Dec 29 16:08:39 Is there such a thing as parent fragments? Like parent activities, in that when you press the back button you are taken back to it Dec 29 16:10:57 please anyone? I googled for it but couldn't find any working solution Dec 29 16:11:12 autrilla: Fragments have a backstack. Dec 29 16:11:39 https://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/FragmentTransaction.html#addToBackStack(java.lang.String) Dec 29 16:11:42 kakazza, maybe using FragmentTransaction#replace isn't the best bet Dec 29 16:11:45 Oh, it is? Dec 29 16:12:06 Sure. ft.addToBackStack(null); Dec 29 16:12:44 https://developer.android.com/guide/components/fragments.html#Transactions Dec 29 16:12:45 I strill have to work on the design for my second screen... Dec 29 16:12:47 Hum Dec 29 16:12:49 The code snipped there uses it. Dec 29 16:13:01 Both .replace() and .addToBackStack() Dec 29 16:13:30 kakazza, thanks!" Dec 29 16:13:35 Anything I can help you with? Dec 29 16:14:45 Me? I'm good. I just hang out here :) Dec 29 16:14:58 Any help for my issue? Dec 29 16:15:45 is there any selector guide or tutorial? Dec 29 16:18:03 The_Jag, a drawable? Dec 29 16:18:10 For the GridView selector? Dec 29 16:18:23 yes Dec 29 16:18:26 a list of it Dec 29 16:18:31 You can use GridView#setSelector Dec 29 16:19:20 what I want to achieve is that when an item is selected (checked?) in CAB, then it would change his background to the corresponding drawable Dec 29 16:19:44 but using android:state_checked does nothing Dec 29 16:19:54 neither using state_selected Dec 29 16:20:35 Have you tried programmatically? Dec 29 16:21:03 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/AdapterView.OnItemSelectedListener.html Dec 29 16:21:09 maybe? Dec 29 16:21:29 The root view has to be checkable for it to do anything Dec 29 16:21:45 the root view is a gridview Dec 29 16:21:51 Of the item Dec 29 16:22:09 the linear_layout? Dec 29 16:22:16 oh ok Dec 29 16:22:29 unless it's checkable, the linearlayout will never have state_checked Dec 29 16:22:39 (it isn't checkable) Dec 29 16:22:41 I can try setting it like that Dec 29 16:23:19 let me try Dec 29 16:24:01 can I make it checkable by xml? Dec 29 16:24:50 uhm seems not Dec 29 16:24:51 No, you have to make a subclass that implements the Checkable interface Dec 29 16:24:55 I need to write a file, and I used Environment.getExternalStorageDirectory() to get a valid path, then wrote a file there... apparently the path was /storage/emulated/0, can I access this file via the USB cable? I can't see it in the filesystem, what is that path? Dec 29 16:24:57 Idk, but most probable is no Dec 29 16:25:01 And properly sets the checked state Dec 29 16:25:08 You can probably google an implementation Dec 29 16:25:12 ok Dec 29 16:25:31 SimonVT: So many people ask that, but I've never found a proper link for them in the Android Training docs. Dec 29 16:25:54 Maybe there's an SDK Sample for it. Dec 29 16:26:55 Seems a bit overcomplicated to just implement this betaviour Dec 29 16:27:20 Bu probably I missed something in the pipeline Dec 29 16:28:16 Yeah, there's the shakespeare sample in apidemos that basically does this Dec 29 16:29:18 Maybe I should write a sample Dec 29 16:29:53 does anybody knows there the default sms/mms app saves it messages on the filesystem? Dec 29 16:30:21 Isn't there a way to just get rid of that linear layout? Dec 29 16:30:27 for the item xml Dec 29 16:31:26 SimonVT: Please do, then I can finally give people a proper link. Time to re-vive your blog ;) Dec 29 16:32:24 That's the hardest part, actually writing the post :p Dec 29 16:32:34 Another thing Dec 29 16:32:45 I have read about listSelector too... Dec 29 16:33:15 should I use that, or just set the background of my item to the custom selector? Dec 29 16:33:33 reading the doc suggests using the listSelector in the gridview Dec 29 16:37:01 using this, makes the linear layout using the checked state??? android:background="?android:attr/activatedBackgroundIndicator" Dec 29 16:37:12 even more puzzled Dec 29 16:41:37 Environment.getExternalStorageDirectory() seems to give me a path in which I can't write ... well... where should I write a file? Dec 29 16:42:13 "i can't write" as in "thatpath.canWrite() is false" Dec 29 16:43:00 simoneb_: read https://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/Context.html#getExternalFilesDir(java.lang.String) Dec 29 16:43:22 It's different from Environment.getExternalStorageDirectory() and it's important that you know the difference. Dec 29 16:43:52 thanks, reading that Dec 29 16:49:38 uhm, still failing. getExternalFilesDir seems to return "/", and my write fails (i'm using filewriter/bufferedwriter instead of fileoutputstream as in the example, not sure if this makes a difference) Dec 29 16:50:52 seems to return? Dec 29 16:51:01 and it makes no difference Dec 29 16:52:19 if I print file.getAbsolutePath() it is something like "/myfilename.txt" Dec 29 16:52:39 initialized that as new File(this.getExternalFilesDir(null), "myfilenamehere"); Dec 29 16:58:16 (total noob question) maybe should i ask for the permission to write files before actually writing? Dec 29 16:59:46 ... yet the manual explicitly says "Starting in KITKAT, no permissions are required to read or write to the returned path; it's always accessible to the calling app." so i guess the answer is no Dec 29 17:00:21 simoneb_: I guess it wasnt always so Dec 29 17:00:44 well i'm using 4.3 so it shouldn't apply Dec 29 17:00:55 what about your program api level Dec 29 17:01:08 er...... that should be around 18 or 19 Dec 29 17:01:22 so that is your minium? Dec 29 17:01:29 no my minimum is like 8 Dec 29 17:01:40 is this the culprit? Dec 29 17:01:49 if ti dont work try set 18 or so as minium, see what happens Dec 29 17:01:54 not sure actually lol Dec 29 17:02:28 ...lol, whatever, lets try Dec 29 17:02:30 kitkat is 19 Dec 29 17:02:50 yeah its not like its hard work to change then change back Dec 29 17:02:58 still the same behaviour with android:minSdkVersion="18" Dec 29 17:03:28 so i should obtain the permission to write beforehand? Dec 29 17:03:37 in eclipse you also need to set api level in project settings Dec 29 17:03:45 targetSdk needs to be 19 for no permission to be required on api 19 Dec 29 17:03:46 try 19 since simoneb_ said 19 is kitkat Dec 29 17:05:00 uhm, looks like my device is not compatible with api 19 Dec 29 17:05:34 ah kitkat is 4.4 after all Dec 29 17:05:48 that makes sense, my device has 4.3 Dec 29 17:06:10